I like the quote from 'the course in miracles' - To have all, we must give all'. We want to keep certain parts of the separate self, the parts that bring us pleasure. I think the dark night is a purification process, bringing up everything that is unlike love / truth / God whatever name we want to apply to the 'all'.
Thanks for discussions on this topic, listened to another one that was insightful. ones with Jeanne Zandi. Have dealing with trauma for a long time and experience a prolonged dark night with ups in between. But developing the capacity to feel and stay present with overwhelming emotions when they arise, spontaneously or when triggered, takes time. Use different approaches, body based, insights, dreams etc. The presence process from Michael Brown among several modalities, made a huge leap for me in understanding triggers, feeling and use of breath. Do incorporate TRE, trauma release exercises recently. Have been forced to confront my issues due to several difficult periods, call it, dark nights along difficult periods in my life. But along the way people, insights and ways of processing it came along. It's not easy, but noticed, compared to the past, a noticeable growth in awareness, capacity to stay present with pain etc. Think in the end, looking back, if it was all divinely planned. To many coincidences or synchronicities, but glad i kept going. The hardest lives gives sometimes the biggest growth
I couldn't agree more, particularly with this point: "Developing the capacity to feel and stay present with overwhelming emotions when they arise, spontaneously or when triggered, takes time." I will be posting part 2 of the conversation today at some point. Truly grateful for what you shared! Thanks!
From my own experience and what I've seen in some others, when you don't have the capacity to be with strong emotions, pain, especially during a dark night episode, you intend to fall back on old survival mechanisms, repression, dissociation etc, falling back to any kind of drugs to ease the pain or emotions. There also needs to be a framework from my own experience where what's taking place has a higher meaning or makes sense, etc, which helps to keep you going through intense periods. Anyway thanks for you podcast and everything you put out there.
I went through The Dark Night,it took the better part of 4 years to complete.I believe I've emerged a better version but all I would say is it's not for the faint of heart.It descended after a long period of preliminary bliss,I'm glad I wasn't aware of what it really entailed because I would not have consciously submitted to it.All I can say is I believe it's neccesary.The relinquishment of darker aspects is painful but it ends.Part of the pain for me was I didn't know when it would.Now,on the other side of it,I wouldn't have missed it for the world.Thank you for your content.
Thanks so much for sharing this. I agree with every single point you made. We will talk more about that in the next video. In retrospect, The Dark Night (in my experience) was a rather brutal prep for what I often call 'dying into the void', which happened eventually, the same void I resisted with all my might several times in the process. It was like a gradual leaning into the fear of non-existence. So, in that sense, the Dark Night was brutal but well-meaning.
Thanks for watching! Please, LIKE and SUBSCRIBE. It's much appreciated and helps this channel emerge out of the RUclips basement :) Also, if you have any questions about Dark Night or any aspect of the awakening journey you would like to hear more about, please email them to me at maggie.gilewicz@gmail.com or post them in the comments. Sorry for my noisy earrings and other sound/connection issues! 😬
A much needed interview. You have people like Scott Kiloby whose nonduality consists almost exclusively of digging into trauma, and others .....Buddhism lite.....meditation and the Buddhist path is the way to permanent bliss and happiness. For me, the uncovering of vasanas is a never ending phenomenon and doesn't lead to liberaton anymore than psychotherapy, and the radical nondualists ........there is no problem, no self, nothing to do, nowhere to go and meditation helps us realized that we are already enlightened.......well sounds nice but this realization seems a million miles away to me.
Absolutely not never ending. All vasanas must be released into grace. As long as there are a single little one unforgiven, we will eventually return to free it.
Awakening to pure awareness does not necessarily remove somatically stored trauma, but it does put a spotlight upon it and it can start welling up to be released all at once. This can be a really Hellish trip and it's useful to have tools to help regulate the nervous system.
45:49 My current theory is that dark night is what's left after the wrecking ball of insight levels our interior concepts of self and world. We hate it. It's existentially and emotionally horrible. But we can't raise new structures or have massive existential internal OS upgrades without clearing away the old stuff. The Pixar movie *Inside Out* depicts this powerfully. Old internal structures crumble, new ones come online. Further theory about advanced dharma training: if we can practice samadhi and shamatha through these stages, we can eventually reach the point where self and world arise as needed, when needed, and then pass away as conditions pass and those structures or sankhara are no longer relevant or pertinent. An advanced practitioner doesn't cling to what is passing nor are they averse to what is arising. They act with intention to work skillfully in and with karma to reduce present and future suffering.
1st time hearing Daniel..so much info..so helpful on a very deep..complex topic..amazing energy!!.❤
Glad you enjoyed it!
“the overlay of terror” is an extremely apt description of the later stages of the dark night ;)
I like the quote from 'the course in miracles' - To have all, we must give all'. We want to keep certain parts of the separate self, the parts that bring us pleasure. I think the dark night is a purification process, bringing up everything that is unlike love / truth / God whatever name we want to apply to the 'all'.
Beautiful. Yes.Thank you.
Thanks for discussions on this topic, listened to another one that was insightful. ones with Jeanne Zandi. Have dealing with trauma for a long time and experience a prolonged dark night with ups in between. But developing the capacity to feel and stay present with overwhelming emotions when they arise, spontaneously or when triggered, takes time. Use different approaches, body based, insights, dreams etc.
The presence process from Michael Brown among several modalities, made a huge leap for me in understanding triggers, feeling and use of breath. Do incorporate TRE, trauma release exercises recently. Have been forced to confront my issues due to several difficult periods, call it, dark nights along difficult periods in my life. But along the way people, insights and ways of processing it came along. It's not easy, but noticed, compared to the past, a noticeable growth in awareness, capacity to stay present with pain etc.
Think in the end, looking back, if it was all divinely planned. To many coincidences or synchronicities, but glad i kept going. The hardest lives gives sometimes the biggest growth
I couldn't agree more, particularly with this point: "Developing the capacity to feel and stay present with overwhelming emotions when they arise, spontaneously or when triggered, takes time."
I will be posting part 2 of the conversation today at some point.
Truly grateful for what you shared! Thanks!
From my own experience and what I've seen in some others, when you don't have the capacity to be with strong emotions, pain, especially during a dark night episode, you intend to fall back on old survival mechanisms, repression, dissociation etc, falling back to any kind of drugs to ease the pain or emotions. There also needs to be a framework from my own experience where what's taking place has a higher meaning or makes sense, etc, which helps to keep you going through intense periods. Anyway thanks for you podcast and everything you put out there.
@@erickamminga3565 again, I couldn't agree more. Thank you.
I went through The Dark Night,it took the better part of 4 years to complete.I believe I've emerged a better version but all I would say is it's not for the faint of heart.It descended after a long period of preliminary bliss,I'm glad I wasn't aware of what it really entailed because I would not have consciously submitted to it.All I can say is I believe it's neccesary.The relinquishment of darker aspects is painful but it ends.Part of the pain for me was I didn't know when it would.Now,on the other side of it,I wouldn't have missed it for the world.Thank you for your content.
Thanks so much for sharing this. I agree with every single point you made. We will talk more about that in the next video.
In retrospect, The Dark Night (in my experience) was a rather brutal prep for what I often call 'dying into the void', which happened eventually, the same void I resisted with all my might several times in the process. It was like a gradual leaning into the fear of non-existence. So, in that sense, the Dark Night was brutal but well-meaning.
Thanks for watching! Please, LIKE and SUBSCRIBE. It's much appreciated and helps this channel emerge out of the RUclips basement :)
Also, if you have any questions about Dark Night or any aspect of the awakening journey you would like to hear more about, please email them to me at maggie.gilewicz@gmail.com or post them in the comments.
Sorry for my noisy earrings and other sound/connection issues! 😬
A much needed interview. You have people like Scott Kiloby whose nonduality consists almost exclusively of digging into trauma, and others .....Buddhism lite.....meditation and the Buddhist path is the way to permanent bliss and happiness. For me, the uncovering of vasanas is a never ending phenomenon and doesn't lead to liberaton anymore than psychotherapy, and the radical nondualists ........there is no problem, no self, nothing to do, nowhere to go and meditation helps us realized that we are already enlightened.......well sounds nice but this realization seems a million miles away to me.
I hear you.
Absolutely not never ending. All vasanas must be released into grace. As long as there are a single little one unforgiven, we will eventually return to free it.
Practice Buddhism heavy
Awakening to pure awareness does not necessarily remove somatically stored trauma, but it does put a spotlight upon it and it can start welling up to be released all at once. This can be a really Hellish trip and it's useful to have tools to help regulate the nervous system.
Yes.
I found TRE, trauma release exercises, among several other tools to be helpful with processing trauma stored in your body
@@awakeningtobehuman Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT) worked for me.
45:49 My current theory is that dark night is what's left after the wrecking ball of insight levels our interior concepts of self and world. We hate it. It's existentially and emotionally horrible. But we can't raise new structures or have massive existential internal OS upgrades without clearing away the old stuff. The Pixar movie *Inside Out* depicts this powerfully. Old internal structures crumble, new ones come online.
Further theory about advanced dharma training: if we can practice samadhi and shamatha through these stages, we can eventually reach the point where self and world arise as needed, when needed, and then pass away as conditions pass and those structures or sankhara are no longer relevant or pertinent. An advanced practitioner doesn't cling to what is passing nor are they averse to what is arising. They act with intention to work skillfully in and with karma to reduce present and future suffering.
Thank you for sharing.
Thank you
You're very welcome! :)
Does Daniel do one on one sessions??
I don't think so but I'm not sure. But I think he answers questions via email.
www.integrateddaniel.info/contact
This lady is soooo cute
Major deep paradigm shift brought on by the subconscious. We are layers beings. Most of us have no idea why we do what we do.
Here and elsewhere, Daniel refers to the dark night as the "dark nightie" which I find hilarious!
I use it too. I just spell it differently 'dark night-y' 😂
Ni två behöver Herren Jesus! (You two needs the Lord Jesus!)