Ep166: Fire Kasina Mystic - Daniel Ingram

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  • Опубликовано: 27 ноя 2024

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  • @LoveJungle420
    @LoveJungle420 2 года назад +16

    Another incredible episode with Daniel! It's so helpful to hear someone touch on the esoteric magickal path and relate it Buddhist practices. I chose to pause my esoteric practices to focus more on insight and awakening, but people like Daniel make me feel like it's possible to marry these two practices. There is some prejudice against the process of awakening in esoteric circles and a ton of prejudice toward magickal practices in the Buddhist world. Fire Kasina seems to blend these two worlds together.

  • @danielhall67
    @danielhall67 2 года назад +11

    @9:58 - HOLY SHIT!!! The first time I ever tried meditation I didn't have any instruction, I was just playing by ear. I was focusing on the impressions of light on the backs of my eyelids. I was in the Army in basic training, and on Sunday we had the option of going to church or a 'meditation room', which was just a conference room.
    The lighting in the room was just fluorescent. Nothing special. What he describes here is exactly my experience... to a point. Because I never meditated, I didn't know what I was supposed to experience, so when my thoughts suddenly stopped, full stop... I felt just like consciousness floating in an infinite void. I felt bodiless. I freaked the fuck out. I snapped back to reality, opened my eyes and was like, what the fuck!
    I never knew this was an actual technique and that it had been written about and practiced extensively!

    • @codycarl6027
      @codycarl6027 6 месяцев назад

      Hey bro! That was real reality it's a holographic universe brother I'm so glad you went to the meditation room you got the best of both worlds because that's real church too. That just made me really happy reading your comment keep it going it will change your life for the best you realize why you came to this earth school.

  • @PeterStuckings
    @PeterStuckings 2 года назад +33

    I have to admit to liking very much how he points to the books on the shelf 😂

    • @dheerajbakoriya1123
      @dheerajbakoriya1123 8 месяцев назад +1

      The first thing I did after playing this video was take a screenshot lmao

  • @VeritableVagabond
    @VeritableVagabond 2 года назад +19

    I’m all fired up for this one! Daniel seems to be too 🔥🔥🔥Your episode with Daniel on magick and the occult is definitely one of the best episodes and this one seems reminiscent.

  • @bike4aday
    @bike4aday 2 года назад +7

    I'm so excited for this!

  • @lovelife533
    @lovelife533 2 года назад +8

    This is exactly what I wanted! Trying to plan a fire kasina retreat this winter break. Love you Daniel, keep up the amazing work.

    • @sid.r
      @sid.r 2 года назад +1

      Your videos are also really great. 😊

    • @lovelife533
      @lovelife533 2 года назад +1

      @@sid.r 😂 love you too sid

  •  2 года назад +10

    Thank you! This is one of the best resources out there for Fire Kasina. I loved the phenomenology! Like around minute 14 and also at one hour and 42 minutes. Excellent job! :D

    • @TaveosMelek
      @TaveosMelek Год назад +3

      Love seeing you here Andres. Your work is top tier.

    • @consciouscactus
      @consciouscactus Год назад +1

      No surprise seeing you here as well :)

  • @karitabergman3940
    @karitabergman3940 2 года назад +7

    Love Daniel

  • @deborahbayer5798
    @deborahbayer5798 2 года назад +1

    Experiencing deep desires for more conversations on these topics, especially those last 6-7 minutes. Thank you both so very much for your practices and for this episode 🙇‍♀️🙏💗

  • @Phosphene_Dr3am
    @Phosphene_Dr3am Год назад

    Wow, just wow, thank you so much for this! I’ve been keeping my eyes peeled for a very long time for something just like this that might explain so many of the things that I see when meditating, and he just described experiencing/ seeing himself -from within the minds eye- all of the amazing 3D fractals, all the stuff about the lines and how they converge and the rainbow effect, and how it kinda feels like I’m moving my hands/ limbs through syrup and a bit more slowly in this state, and the stuff about suddenly popping or dissolving into some other reality with the entities! The first time that happened to me it honestly scared the crap out of me, I (that is my entire body) just completely disappeared and it felt as though I was just pure awareness without a physical body. And I also get those random visions in my head like a movie when meditating as well! Like I suddenly just see people getting off of a bus or something.
    All very cool, I’m gonna check out all this kasina stuff now for sure.

  • @danielhall67
    @danielhall67 6 месяцев назад +2

    @15:41 - I have a theory. I have, on some occasions, seen colored patterns when meditating. Not to the extent that Daniel has described.
    What I believe this to be is the material floating around inside the eyeballs.
    If you’ve ever taken a blow to the head and ‘see stars’ you will see it better. The blow to the head causes the material inside the eyes to get shaken up, and what we see is the light refracting off the particles.
    So what is happening is the eyes are seeing themselves. Which is quite a level to achieve by the way.
    However, the mind wants to make sense out of the nonsense. The mind wants to form patterns, just like a Rorschach Test.
    I think the historical Buddha warned against being deceived by these images. He was aware they were illusory products of the mind.
    However, to achieve this level of skill is a great feat. It requires a certain level of detachment from the body.
    When people die or have Near Death Experiences (NDEs) they still have the experience of all their senses. How is it possible to have senses without the sense organs?
    In a recent NDE video I watched a man had a theory that it is our consciousness that creates the phenomena of having sense organs.
    I see consciousness as a flame. And the fuel for the flame is contact with the sense objects. Sight, Sound, Smell, Taste, Touch. 5 different types of fuel.
    Whatever we see during deep concentration is that flame. We are watching consciousness. Or perhaps it is more like a mirror, reflecting back our consciousness.
    And in that way it is creating more contact with sense objects. The mind itself and mental phenomena can be considered a 6th sense.
    The Buddha instructed to turn away from the mental phenomena and go beyond this.
    I believe it’s possible to see the future, hear other people thoughts and have other abilities.
    I believe the way these are understood is misunderstood.
    We don’t read other peoples thoughts because there is no such thing as an other, and thoughts do not belong to this person or that person.
    Seeing the future isn’t seeing the future because time is an illusion created by having a body. When consciousness is distanced from the body, we see an array of moments and understand their relation to one another. Moments are adjacent to each other like objects are adjacent in space.

  • @iMatia69
    @iMatia69 2 года назад +3

    Incredible episode. Thanks for having Daniel on again.

  • @littledarkone1995
    @littledarkone1995 2 года назад +19

    I would love for a round 2 w/Daniel & Delson on Siddhis. One question, or perhaps topic, that I would want to address regarding powers is the degree to which they go. I'm curious what Delson's take is when it comes to the reported Siddhis, powers, and miracles when it comes to what is attributed with many Kriya Yogis (Paramahansa Yogananda's book is a hallmark for this) but also Buddhist masters of the likes of Dipa Ma. When it comes to walking through walls, walking on water, being able to go back in time, bilocation, and so forth. I would really like to not play coy when it comes to those things and get their honest take or perhaps even personal experiences with such matters.

    • @user-fg3fv9hl3b
      @user-fg3fv9hl3b Год назад

      ​@@j0358 would you be willing to share some of those experiences here? I'm interested

  • @lolcatyo3649
    @lolcatyo3649 2 года назад +4

    This is going to be a treat! Nice work.

  • @toddm6999
    @toddm6999 2 года назад +6

    Check Ajahn Sona at Birken he does Kasina practice and teaches it...I find this fellow extremely experienced honest and open about his retreats I would trust Daniel on long retreats as a partner on the journey...his explanations and framing are other worldy..
    .however risks applied...Viking Guru thanks for doing this...highly interesting.

  • @JulesOnline
    @JulesOnline 3 месяца назад

    Excellent content . Thank you Steve and Daniel.

  • @santerihuida4215
    @santerihuida4215 Год назад

    This was an excellent show. I'm really glad that the dangers of the practice are underlined, it seems the same as with psychedelics, where you really should stay far away if you have any risk for mental illness, but it is almost impossible to know if you are in the risk group beforehand.

  • @C14445
    @C14445 2 года назад +3

    This was a treat!

  • @ceruleandusk
    @ceruleandusk 2 года назад +12

    I had to watch on 0.75x speed in order to understand Daniel because he speaks super fast!!
    Also, this is not a critique but an observation: Daniel does not seem the stereotypical Samatha practicioner who is calm, composed, focused, collected, etc. He looks more like me when I've had a cup of coffee and no meditation for that day. But maybe this is because he is super excited talking about this topic.
    But please do more podcasts with him, I would love to see he talk about the other Samatha Objects: Kasinas, Brahma-Viharas, Arupa Jhanas, etc

    • @legtornasz6858
      @legtornasz6858 2 года назад +1

      the exited Arahant... wait, what?

    • @LeftOfToday
      @LeftOfToday 2 года назад

      Funny, because I watched this (and many other podcasts) on 1.5x... Then Daniel REALLY doesn't seem like the calm and composed type :)

    • @pedrofuster9161
      @pedrofuster9161 2 года назад +1

      @@LeftOfToday me too, 1.5x!

  • @cryoshakespeare4465
    @cryoshakespeare4465 2 года назад

    Wonderful interview, thank you so much for sharing. Hearing the dialogue between Daniel and yourself is both inspiring and grounding in a very helpful way. Cheers!

  • @dorelrotar8468
    @dorelrotar8468 Год назад

    Very good podcast! I appreciate a lot the sincerity and honesty of both of you !
    Thank you guys ! We need to know the truth and to demystify all those stories !
    It’s the truth that will bring us to a better seashore

  • @Sprite_525
    @Sprite_525 Год назад

    I loved the part at 39:36 “ power up , get to the landmarks. Intend, and just keep setting it up & keep intending, and see what happens. *That’s the basic formula for all of this stuff.”*
    So fascinating. This is exactly the formula for Buddhism’s advanced practice called “5 factor samādhi,” a scholar just wrote about it (bucknell) and he believed that a lot of Buddhists had totally overlooked the “intending / extending the mind” part of samādhi.
    For anyone interested, the sutta AN 5.28 gives the practice Daniel & Bucknell mention: max out the 4 jhanas, then 5th step is to really extend the powered up mind to something by “reviewing” or returning to the idea, the analogy is like looking at a person over and over in different postures.

  • @WaterSeesWater
    @WaterSeesWater 2 года назад +6

    As for OBE through meditation, Jurgen Ziewe would be the best person to be interviewed .

  • @mpavoreal
    @mpavoreal 2 года назад

    Utterly awesome, what a beautiful man doing such good work. Thanks GV!

  • @dgliber
    @dgliber Год назад

    This interview is absolute gold. Thank you!

  • @justiceearth9702
    @justiceearth9702 Год назад +1

    I wanna try that fire Kacina meditation. It sounds so cool

  • @em-dy3hn
    @em-dy3hn 2 года назад +4

    Whoa! Thank you for the book recommendation at the end! I will definitely read it. Jeffrey Kripal's The Flip.

  • @manjushadubey2163
    @manjushadubey2163 2 года назад

    Thanks denial I am Vipassana meditator I also experienced same as you describe vast space and all things around become small tiny bright lights even after I open eyes and emerge slowly inside my heart space this video give me lot of knowledge thank you guru Viking.

  • @crypto2frens
    @crypto2frens 2 года назад +2

    More content with these fascinating practitioners!

  • @Moriandrizzt
    @Moriandrizzt 2 года назад

    Excellent video. Thank you so much for these podcasts.

  • @andymadel5135
    @andymadel5135 Месяц назад

    very good....thanks guys

  • @BauKim
    @BauKim 8 дней назад

    This man reads Ellery Queen. That adds a lot of points in my book.

  • @Lipinki.luzyckie
    @Lipinki.luzyckie 2 года назад +4

    funny, I just spend a couple of evenings browsing his fire kasina site. Oh Lord at 1:29:00 dad jokes alarm! 🚨🚨🚨

  • @tednation
    @tednation 2 года назад +1

    It's interesting that Daniel mentioned his experiences were similar to that of what he's heard of Ayahuasca. I do think there is something very similar to these practices and entheogens.

  • @DenverDzogchenPodcast
    @DenverDzogchenPodcast 11 месяцев назад +1

    I'd like to hear more about Pop Culture Magick

  • @carlacampbell2430
    @carlacampbell2430 2 года назад +4

    I was taught to look at the four different colored dots corresponding to the four elements,(one at a time of course) closing the eyes and seeing the dot in the opposite color and then stepping through the dot into the realm of that element. Just another way of working with the elements.

  • @kiyannareynard1850
    @kiyannareynard1850 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for this informative dialogue, I appreciate it. What do you think about different elemental Kasina, based on what is needed to balance one's birth chart?

  • @AliciaMarkoe
    @AliciaMarkoe 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you 🦋

  • @HeartSpiritWolf
    @HeartSpiritWolf Год назад

    I love that video and the honestly, directly coming to the point. I'm hooked! Is there a possibility to also talk about the other element kasinas like water, air, earth and especially space? I would be a tremendous help and inspiration as I find as fire does not necessarily fit to everyone.
    _/\_

  • @dhammasi7965
    @dhammasi7965 Год назад +1

    Make sure you don't flip out man!!!☸️🙏🙏🙏

  • @top5paranormal254
    @top5paranormal254 Год назад

    Great episode

  • @brotherxv
    @brotherxv 2 года назад +2

    LETS GOOO‼️‼️

  • @Spectre2434
    @Spectre2434 Год назад +1

    People should know how to balance the Five Elements if they are doing these practices.

  • @bimbram
    @bimbram 2 года назад +2

    THANKS!!

  • @dreamwalkerday3342
    @dreamwalkerday3342 4 месяца назад +1

    A tourist not a native…I like that!

  • @poimandres
    @poimandres 2 года назад

    Great! Love Daniel ^_^

  • @Antonio_Egea
    @Antonio_Egea 2 года назад +3

    Another great episode, Daniel helped me a lot some years ago. But I don't understand what's an arhat when Daniel mentions that in the last retreat he went through some trauma-like images from his childhood or that he had been working on certain chakras on the last retreat. Is not an arhat someone who is free from all karma and these stuck patterns? Like totally healed? (at least healed in a personal level) It sounds very much like what I do in almost every meditation session, going through old stuff that's blocked somewhere in me. I'd appreciate very much any insights or resources!

    • @teodoravukovic4643
      @teodoravukovic4643 2 года назад +1

      You can try to listen to the interview with Culadasa about meditation and therapy. He speaks about that.

    • @johannessannwald2719
      @johannessannwald2719 2 года назад

      Well, there are suttas talking about lay people dying after they attain full liberation, because it is 'too great, for the low vehicle of lay life'. And there is no one else of the people, we believe to be arahats, who talk about it too much. (If at all)
      So yeah...

    • @Antonio_Egea
      @Antonio_Egea 2 года назад

      @@teodoravukovic4643 thank you, Teodora. I am a bit familiar with Culadasa's story because I got very interested into the particularities. I'll rewatch the one you say. But about Culadasa he seems to be an enlightened being, but he was very clear about the traumas he had hidden that came up after using different therapies. But as far as I know he didn't claim to be an arhat. I'll check the episode because maybe he talks about all this and I just don't remember.

    • @Antonio_Egea
      @Antonio_Egea 2 года назад

      @@johannessannwald2719 thanks Johannes. I've read about this in other traditions of spirituality (not Buddhism) and they talk about beings leaving their bodies not because of Enlightenment alone but because of lack of desire to continue living, like they didn't want to do anything else. As I understand for example the Buddha was alive because he wanted to teach the Dharma. Boddishatvas continue reincarnating until every single being is awakened so they need a body. There are stories of many yogis who left their body, I understand because they were not interested into this after their realization. But I have no idea anyway, I see the great being Daniel is but when he mentions to be working on opening his chakras or childhood memories is kind of shocking for me, I suppose that I misunderstood totally what an arhat is, at least clearly from Daniel's point of view

    • @teodoravukovic4643
      @teodoravukovic4643 2 года назад

      @@Antonio_Egea Thanks for replying. Many Arahants don't claim this attainment because it is agains the code of their lineage. This is largely what makes Ingram so controversial and what disturbs many people. In that episode, Culadasa says that he has attained a state where there is no identification with the self or anything else, characterized by complete centerlessness. To my knowledge of the 4-Fold Path, that stands for enlightenment.

  • @bevansieber7133
    @bevansieber7133 Год назад +1

    wait wait wait... Take afterglow as object!!???
    Genius! (1:37:40)
    ill remember that lil nuggie!

  • @TravisTellsTruths
    @TravisTellsTruths 2 года назад

    Sir, how do you power up in this context? A question for our traveler. Be aware, be not distracted by these lower beings. Channel yourself upwards with love to heavenly realms. Intend to contact one's Holy Guardian Angel--or even the very God Consciousness. The actual 4th state. Through the void of amnesia is the very Light of God.

  • @dreamwalkerday3342
    @dreamwalkerday3342 4 месяца назад

    Thank you! Can someone list the books he mentioned?
    I am listing one: Jeffrey Kripal The Flip.

  • @ruipedroparada
    @ruipedroparada 2 года назад +1

    is there a "condition" in which meaning is over-ascribed to internal and external phenomena? +, given the presence of thought formations, jhanic states can safely be discounted (the descriptions sound very much like brain-junk in s state of self-generative proliferation)....just wondering...

  • @georgevockroth8806
    @georgevockroth8806 2 года назад

    Has Daniel looked into the Templeton Foundation as a possible source of funding for the EPRC? It would appear to be tailor made.

    • @danielm.ingram1449
      @danielm.ingram1449 2 года назад +1

      Yes, we have had ongoing dialogue through applications and replies with Templeton, though I get the sense that we are a bit deeper into the water than they are currently entirely comfortable with, though gently working to move that threshold. Thanks for the suggestions.

  • @axilleaskazuya5370
    @axilleaskazuya5370 2 года назад +4

    Wooooooow yeap

  • @Theconsciousmovement
    @Theconsciousmovement 2 года назад

    31:00 that is not you creating the experience, but it is given to you while you are witnessing your thoughts. This is beyond me, it is that which I am apart, yet it is more then me and not like me, or any of my willing.

  • @Spectre2434
    @Spectre2434 9 месяцев назад

    You should have Dr Nev Jones on a talk with Dr Ingram ❤❤❤

  • @sleepywoodelf
    @sleepywoodelf Год назад

    Any benefits to doing kasina for shorter periods, like a daily meditation practice?

  • @robertkirby4590
    @robertkirby4590 Год назад +1

    What are some occultist memoirs people would recommend?

    • @69Jackjones69
      @69Jackjones69 8 месяцев назад

      Magia by Alan Chapman. Bit of memoir as it features a transcript of his retreat at Pelion.

  • @stephenklug4961
    @stephenklug4961 Год назад +1

    I’ve achieved much of what he is talking about by dropping acid.
    I’d like to achieve it without the need for acid, sounds like a lot of work though

    • @ijikayuto2950
      @ijikayuto2950 Год назад

      Meditating 16 hours a day for 7 fays XD

  • @mispanludensprinck5652
    @mispanludensprinck5652 2 года назад +1

    I think an enlightened person should radiate peace.

  • @thefrederation
    @thefrederation 2 года назад

    Where can one find the vishuddimagga and vimuddimagga? I can find a copy of the former but the latter eludes me!!

    • @thefrederation
      @thefrederation 2 года назад +1

      found it, its called the vimuttimagga! pdfs are available online

  • @Spectre2434
    @Spectre2434 Год назад

    A Dzogchen teacher Lucjan Shila gave me this Practice

  • @bvim75
    @bvim75 Год назад

    Can anything be achivied by only doing it for 30min a day?

  • @Bishop1104
    @Bishop1104 2 года назад

    Can somebody please tell me the books he mentioned. Something about moodi maga and etc

    • @gideonros2705
      @gideonros2705 2 года назад

      Visuddhimagga; en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visuddhimagga
      Vimuttimagga; en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vimuttimagga

    • @bp32216
      @bp32216 Год назад

      The Visuddhimagga and the Vimuttimagga. They are worth looking into.

  • @golgipogo
    @golgipogo 2 года назад +1

    I get so much from your podcasts. Why spend time with DI?

    • @user-fg3fv9hl3b
      @user-fg3fv9hl3b 2 года назад

      Because the majority of people here want to see more of him (incoming: you saying the opposite), you have the option to skip if you don't like.

  • @davidstrickland1127
    @davidstrickland1127 Год назад +1

    Most practiciners ...end up glibb and condescending towards other practices..not this guy...i love his fascination with awakening...and other tradditions...he he

  • @floralcare
    @floralcare 2 года назад

    wow

  • @ruipedroparada
    @ruipedroparada 2 года назад +1

    but very interesting; very psychedelic indeed (endogenous DMT?)

  • @mattrkelly
    @mattrkelly 2 года назад +4

    enlightened people are always so weird!

    • @davidstrickland1127
      @davidstrickland1127 2 года назад +1

      Every one is...exept me and you...but i think your a little bit wierd..he he.

    • @mattrkelly
      @mattrkelly 2 года назад

      @@davidstrickland1127 yes... Im also very weird 😎

  • @TheWizard10008
    @TheWizard10008 2 года назад +1

    Who is Honey Bunny?

  • @Spectre2434
    @Spectre2434 Год назад

    You need lesser Siddhis to have Greater Siddhis.

  • @gracepoint-vo1hy
    @gracepoint-vo1hy Год назад

    Spiritual Emergency! Groff !

  • @5piles
    @5piles 2 года назад +1

    way below access concentration / shamata

    • @user-fg3fv9hl3b
      @user-fg3fv9hl3b 2 года назад

      ?

    • @isisneteru1013
      @isisneteru1013 Год назад +1

      @5 Piles....Pls elaborate. Kasina practices take you past nimittas to 4th jhana where a lot of these siddhis awaken and the Equanimity state. How is this below access concentration which is not even 1st jhana?

    • @5piles
      @5piles Год назад

      @@isisneteru1013 nimittas are not part of the desire realm. they only appear once one is fully stabilised in 1st jhana and accomplished a clear sign of one of them. 1st dhyana means can effortlessly sit for 24h straight in perfect samadhi and already will have certain siddhis such as limited recollection of immediately preceding past lives, perfect memory recall ie. ability to observe the chain of thoughts link by link by link backwards for as long as one wishes. in addition to long being past interested in any of the desire realm sense objects such as food and sex. theres way more to do be said but currently ppl who think are in the jhanas are not even anywhere near jhana and are unable to describe the events that occur on the 9 stages of shamata nor able to explain from direct experience the order of the physical and mental pliancies and blisses that occur upon first reaching shamata.

    • @user-fg3fv9hl3b
      @user-fg3fv9hl3b Год назад +1

      ​@@5piles is that your experience?

  • @davidcannella1497
    @davidcannella1497 Год назад +2

    100 hours to draw a red alligator over his head? Daniel should use better time management and take some mushrooms. He could save 99 hours. 😂