INFJ in the grip of inferior function (Se)-Example

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  • Опубликовано: 11 ноя 2024

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  • @jakemoore4080
    @jakemoore4080 6 лет назад +424

    Let just say a very emphatic "been there done that" and I can totally visualise what's going through her mind (or what's not). You truly feel a weird sense of power, recklessness and freedom - a sudden break from the seemingly unbearable claustrophobia of the mind and all the thoughts that has been pressing down upon it. You truly feel what it is to just 'be'... but to 'be' in a truly alien disembodied sense with very little control or forethought. The only thing that you can't fully escape is Fe which tries to just keep things together - like a rider hanging on for dear life on the back of some wild rearing horse trying its best to restrain it. Fe in such moments is like an invisible moral hand that lets you you dance everywhere else except near the cliffs and tries to remind you to keep some semblance of moral affinity.
    The strangest moment is waking up the next morning. Your mind is very much like walking into a house the morning after a crazy house party: a sense of emptiness, of a silent fragile silence and only a few scattered thoughts and remembrances of the night before broken across the floor.

    • @user-324-v3e
      @user-324-v3e 5 лет назад +7

      Wow, well said. Also been there, done that, unfortunately.

    • @netsardin4019
      @netsardin4019 2 года назад +3

      Oh, I hate these states of mine so much. In addition to the increased risk of reckless actions, there is still self-hatred after these actions and it can remain literally for years, even if I laid it out for myself constructively why I did this and that I had the right to do so. It doesn't banish those feelings.

  • @georgia7636
    @georgia7636 6 лет назад +595

    Binge eating, listening to music for hours on end, daydreaming constantly to escape a meagre reality. Out-of-body experiences which give us momentary pleasure. Something I can't stop at the moment. Also very critical about my parents way of handling situations and the way they raised me, only to find that I am the one who cannot handle anything.

    • @andy199903able
      @andy199903able 3 года назад +4

      to a T

    • @jeshan0659
      @jeshan0659 3 года назад +3

      You said it!

    • @ammytherese8351
      @ammytherese8351 3 года назад +8

      I’m not kidding when I say you just made me realize I was in a grip a few years ago 😳. Everything you said was SPOT ON and exactly what I was doing. (Especially the daydreaming constantly (I formed maladaptive daydreaming) and the critical about my parents part. Insane how it’s like you experienced the exact same life as me

    • @David98004
      @David98004 2 года назад +4

      Wow Georgia, I really appreciate you're comment!! It's crazy how most if not all infjs are dealing with the same patterns/trials/tribulatuions. Life feels like a trivial simulation or at least that's what my NI has me believe.

    • @raluca_si_atat
      @raluca_si_atat 2 года назад

      You got that point just right.
      😔
      👏

  • @arelibautista8510
    @arelibautista8510 6 лет назад +455

    My sister just said "you INFJs sound so complicated"
    When I'm severely stressed I experience Se as a punishment. Drinking until I lose my mind, walking out at 4am just for the trill and risk, unprotected sex, starving for days, hearing music very loud, sleep depriving, isolating from everyone when I need company the most. It's a strange pain, it's in some way pleasurable and comfortable. Like if I knew this is the place where I'm supposed to be, this is what I deserve and I just wanna know how much more it can hurt. How bad it can get

    • @SaraMBTI
      @SaraMBTI  6 лет назад +33

      areli bautista
      Thank you for sharing your experience and being honest😃
      I hope you are fine and that you don't experience this grip often 💞💕

    • @monpetitchouxpastry
      @monpetitchouxpastry 6 лет назад +34

      I react similarly in my grip. I don’t eat for days, I deprive myself of sleep, I isolate myself. Something about doing this to myself feels like a purge, even though it’s painful. I also indulge in spending money or at least lusting for nice things lol

    • @deacon19899
      @deacon19899 6 лет назад +19

      Can completely relate thanks for sharing. I was in the grip and punished myself for years it feels like a complete blur now.
      But i don't feel regret I felt like it needed to be done at the time and now I see it was a part of a growing stronger once out of it.

    • @NikkiDocherty74
      @NikkiDocherty74 6 лет назад +14

      areli bautista , this doesn't sound like a personality type, INFJ, that you described, it sounds like mental illness. indulging in risky/dangerous behavior means you should seek help

    • @Irish_Clan
      @Irish_Clan 6 лет назад +16

      Good grief, Nikki. Se doms get a thrill at indulging in risky/dangerous behavior ON A GOOD DAY. It's a natural high they experience. They love action and taking risks, especially ESTPs. And they certainly are not mentally ill because of it.

  • @AImighty
    @AImighty 6 лет назад +278

    Very accurate. Too much in the moment stimulation makes me feel depersonalization and I act like I’m on autopilot.

    • @byleco100
      @byleco100 6 лет назад +20

      Sometimes, when on autopilot, I have like flashes of conscioussnes when I just watch what I am doing, without feeling or sense of doing it myself. It is just like, huh, I wonder what is going to happen next

    • @David98004
      @David98004 2 года назад +3

      @@byleco100 Hey Adam, I can resonate with you on "wondering what's going to happen next"

  • @marishaten7399
    @marishaten7399 6 лет назад +309

    Definitely sounds like me, although I don't actually indulge in any self-harming behaviour. I can sit and dream about it for hours but when it comes to really doing it, I suddenly find it ludicrous. Then I feel ashamed of how dramatic I'd been feeling for so long.

    • @JonasAnandaKristiansson
      @JonasAnandaKristiansson 6 лет назад +37

      " Then I feel ashamed of how dramatic I'd been feeling for so long."
      Everytime, all my life. Crazy ! : )

    • @katelord8754
      @katelord8754 6 лет назад +8

      marisha ten infj here, me too 😫 it’s ridiculous

    • @serenityfinch6599
      @serenityfinch6599 6 лет назад +1

      Same

    • @esmeraldamiguel3921
      @esmeraldamiguel3921 6 лет назад +15

      Yes I don't let myself get wayyyy out of control instead I just day dream about it and then I get disgusted by my thoughts. Then I have a mental breakdown and then I slowly drag my body to my desk and start writing how I truly feel but now i have learned how to deal with my feelings first so, I don't lose myself in my thoughts and hurt myself.

    • @towel1636
      @towel1636 4 года назад

      Ye

  • @beaumontstuff
    @beaumontstuff 6 лет назад +69

    I was expecting this to be some dumb list of random adjectives, and only watched because it was in my recommended. I have to say, this was surprisingly accurate. I do get overcritical when stressed, and I have used the self-destructive/sensation-seeking attitude to avoid my problems. Very insightful video. You taught me something new. Thank you!

    • @SaraMBTI
      @SaraMBTI  6 лет назад +3

      Beau
      Amazing comment, thank you 💕

  • @bayleet6133
    @bayleet6133 6 лет назад +98

    I never watched this movie, so when the club scene came on I felt a little nervous due to the overwhelming light stimuli and sounds. Definitely relate to the character as an INFJ.

    • @andrielisilien
      @andrielisilien 6 лет назад +9

      The club scene probably would feel nice to an INFJ that's suicidal.

  • @asexybutterfly8024
    @asexybutterfly8024 6 лет назад +87

    INFJs I love you guys! A friendly reminder from your local INTP. 👊

    • @pessimistkai5569
      @pessimistkai5569 6 лет назад +4

      hello I am a lonely INFJ LOL

    • @brandonwilliams3777
      @brandonwilliams3777 6 лет назад +7

      I didn't think intp's were too fond of us lol

    • @asexybutterfly8024
      @asexybutterfly8024 6 лет назад +3

      I am a female INTP so maybe that's why....

    • @brandonwilliams3777
      @brandonwilliams3777 6 лет назад +10

      A sexy butterfly ikr, I LOVE female intp and entps. Probably my favorite types for a relationship. But....
      From what I've seen, intps see through and call us on our bullshit. While we have a tendency to do the same. Combine that with that fact that both types have a "oh you hit me? Time to hit harder bitch!" Mentality, and we often times become friendly enemies.
      Contrary to popular believe , infj's actually love a good debate/battle/ mental challenge at times. In fact, some of the most battle loving characters in several series are infj's.
      And as we know of intps, you guys might seem a bit nerdy, but you guys are fearless in a debate

    • @pessimistkai5569
      @pessimistkai5569 6 лет назад +1

      series like?

  • @norman9783
    @norman9783 6 лет назад +42

    I really feel sad when i see people in their grip even if its just a movie or a show

  • @lizcorbett2587
    @lizcorbett2587 6 лет назад +223

    Maybe it's because I'm an INFJ but I didn't think she was too harsh. Have you seen the movie? Her mom is a complete psycho and Nina was basically caught up in an enmeshment situation. Her reaction was totally understandable.

    • @SaraMBTI
      @SaraMBTI  6 лет назад +56

      Liz Corbs
      Absolutely :) I am not judging her at all, I was just tryinf to say that Infjs can be harsh when they are under chronic stress :)

    • @Magicalpow1
      @Magicalpow1 6 лет назад +4

      Just so you know Mika Munis’ character doesn’t exist, and the entire swan play never happened.... except in Nina’s head. Her mother had to watch her go out again and again to things that didn’t exist... cut her some slack

    • @Julia-ey4zd
      @Julia-ey4zd 6 лет назад +2

      Whats the movie though?

    • @YellowGiraffeGal
      @YellowGiraffeGal 6 лет назад +3

      Black Swan!

    • @libcaro
      @libcaro 6 лет назад +1

      @@Magicalpow1 her mom provoked it... so... serves her right

  • @YodaTheCat321
    @YodaTheCat321 4 года назад +44

    Wow, just wow. I keep remembering back to those times where I would feel so numb, and ‘out of it’, but not depressed or sad or lonely, or anything like that. It was like this aggressive numbness, this craving for something, something! My mind would go to weird places, fantasising about being punched in the face violently for example. Imagining this felt good, satisfying even. Like I deserved it, like it was satisfying a need. But I didn’t feel self loathing, or shame, or guilt. It was a different sort of need.
    Or other times when I’d just lie on the floor, the couple days before my exam, knowing I’ll fail, but not being able to force myself to study. I was capable - so why didn’t I? I just couldn’t do it. All empathy, feeling, and ‘fucks’ were seeping out of me while I laid there for hours. I was crying but not because I was or stressed; I needed a ‘hit’ (again imagining being violently mishandled), some sort of great powerful stimuli that would violently shake me and my world. I felt robotic.
    Or those nights when I would stay up ridiculous hours, going from binging on food, listening to music repetitively, having these compulsive and exhilarating (almost physical) urges to throw myself out the window (but not kill or hurt myself) just to feel the sensation of falling, to staring at my reflection in the mirror, going to weird places emotionally, trying to ‘shock’ myself into feeling something new. Like an electric current, or lightning bolt. When struck, I would likely die, yes, but the purpose is not death. It is to be ultra-aware and awakened, to have every cell of my body be heightened and energised, the ultimate overindulgence in sensory pleasures, utterly so, to the limits of my body.
    This reaction is always caused be either great, continual stress, or something else I havent yet understood.

    • @abhijitsaikia9876
      @abhijitsaikia9876 4 года назад +1

      Wow. That's me .

    • @sweet0peaches
      @sweet0peaches 3 года назад +1

      Beautifully written... I felt that!

    • @havefun3470
      @havefun3470 3 года назад +1

      It's very relatable for me. I felt so emotional reading all of this. I can feel ur pain, friend. I hope you're doing well now

  • @animadivinum
    @animadivinum 2 года назад +25

    This is very accurate.. "Self sabotage" during extreme stress, being impulsive and harsh- overly confident for some moments. It really does feel like out of the body experience. The guilt after the grip is overbearing... Luckily it is possible to learn to handle grips in more healthy and mature way.

  • @thatguybutitsactuallyagirl5384
    @thatguybutitsactuallyagirl5384 4 года назад +24

    I'm not gonna lie, but sometimes this is how violent, dark, and straightforward I get.

  • @brandonwilliams3777
    @brandonwilliams3777 6 лет назад +21

    As an infj, I can agree. I call it the "blackout" moment. And once it gets to that point, things get bad. For EVERYONE.

  • @stone8man
    @stone8man 6 лет назад +103

    I feel this movie was made for Infjs, one of my favs

  • @nkopanelesedilebona9227
    @nkopanelesedilebona9227 3 года назад +8

    This explains why the idea of alcohol has always scared me a little

  • @cecelia948
    @cecelia948 6 лет назад +21

    Nailed it! That was so tragically spot on. I still have bouts of self loathing from invasive memories of my possessed behavior from when I was in the grip during the most stressful time of my life.

    • @SaraMBTI
      @SaraMBTI  6 лет назад +1

      Cece Lia
      Thank you for this comment 😘

  • @serainaburge6928
    @serainaburge6928 4 года назад +13

    This explains all the weird totally out of my usual character actions I've taken during times of extreme stress/sadness/senes of losing control etc. I am having a real heureka moment rn since I've always wondered why I did such things and it now all makes sense.

  • @katelord8754
    @katelord8754 6 лет назад +22

    thank you!!! this is very good, sadly accurate it’s hard to watch when it’s not yourself but while your experiencing it, it’s like you are unabashedly aware- and it’s almost as a defense bc you don’t want others to think you’re spiralling out of control. hard to grasp and describe but anyways this is great, thanks again 💛

  • @msoumaya4723
    @msoumaya4723 6 лет назад +22

    This is what i'm experiencing right now, i can't go out and harm myself properly. So i'm wasting my time in the internet and doing some improper things, i have an exam tomorrow, it is highly probably i'll fail, i failed all the exams this year. Instead of saving this one at least, i haven't studied a bit all these days. My parents already expressed their disappointment about my other exams. I hate myself for losing control, why can't i stop and go now!! Ahhhhggghhhhh
    I really love medicine, why am i not thrilled enough to study it now
    I'm not even stressed, there is no adrenalin to make me feel fear and go study. I'm just numb and wasting my time in the most unhealthiest way

    • @SaraMBTI
      @SaraMBTI  6 лет назад +3

      M Soumaya
      Dear Infj, stay strong 💕

    • @msoumaya4723
      @msoumaya4723 6 лет назад +1

      Sara MBTI thank you, i'll try 💗

    • @ladybluebell1598
      @ladybluebell1598 5 лет назад +4

      I know this is a year old. But what you're not in the grip of Se. You're depressed. I hope that you figured it out by now.

    • @prathampokhrel8944
      @prathampokhrel8944 3 года назад +1

      this is literally fucking me right now and I dont know to doooooo...

  • @sorryveronica
    @sorryveronica 6 лет назад +22

    oh yeah for sure, almost accurate. it's pretty dark... I love INFJ's, it can be complicated yet beautiful.

  • @helenvarel4426
    @helenvarel4426 6 лет назад +15

    I sleep for many hours when I’m stressed and I forget to eat a lot of the time

  • @neffada
    @neffada 6 лет назад +11

    I can relate to this :") omg, especially that "out of body experience" it's not a pleasure at all.

  • @nathansbowman
    @nathansbowman 5 лет назад +4

    I really like these videos where you break down what the INFJ is doing/feeling/thinking/etc. It helps me understand the behaviors and "see" it for myself. Would love to see more of this type of video!

  • @pretzl9554
    @pretzl9554 6 лет назад +35

    Great vid! You should do one addressing the infamous INFJ doorslam.

    • @SaraMBTI
      @SaraMBTI  6 лет назад +3

      Red Roan
      Thank you 💕
      Great idea ;) I could try

  • @SaraMBTI
    @SaraMBTI  6 лет назад +64

    Captions that are ,,too far to the left'':
    Lack of harmony, criticism, conflict, having values violated, distress within a close relationship, lack of understanding
    stresses out an INFJ.

  • @thatinfjgirl
    @thatinfjgirl 6 лет назад +9

    I was waiting for this one!!! Very accurate. This series is really great. We can see the functions in action.

    • @SaraMBTI
      @SaraMBTI  6 лет назад +1

      that infjgirl
      Thank you so much 💞

  • @CandyApples4ever
    @CandyApples4ever 6 лет назад +7

    This seems like really horrible thing to go through under stress. Very self destructive. It legit would make me worry if someone I knew did this type of thing when stressed.

  • @netsardin4019
    @netsardin4019 2 года назад +5

    Most of all I am afraid of myself in such states. Especially the violence that I can do. I am an extremely peaceful person in life, but in this clouded mind I can be as cruel as a sociopath. I can even kill a person and it scares me to the shit. That I don't control myself at times like this. And at such a moment I do not feel fear and hardly feel pain. Which means nothing is holding me back. Neither fear nor morality. I think at this moment I am becoming psychopathic, which means I am very dangerous.
    That is why I avoid violence all my life, because if I have to enter this state, for example, physically fight and I plunge into it, then I cannot be responsible for my actions, I lose control.
    I told my psychotherapist and she said that I can not be afraid of this as I have learned to cope with my anger. But I doubt that it is. It's not just about rage, it's also about turning off compassion. I don't understand how I can fix this. I think she's wrong. I'm scared, so I still avoid physical confrontation. I think many people would do this if they feel uncontrollable in fights.

  • @NorinaBlake
    @NorinaBlake 4 года назад +5

    feeling sorry for all infjs

  • @Mynameisdarkxxo
    @Mynameisdarkxxo 2 года назад +2

    I would recommend every infj to watch this movie, this scene is so symbolic and I know infjs would relate

  • @freyjaalmighty6764
    @freyjaalmighty6764 6 лет назад +10

    Creepily accurate.

  • @lombardo141
    @lombardo141 5 лет назад +3

    Ha! Explains why I feel like am stuck in mud when nothing in my life goes right. It was bad times. Now that am older instead of letting disappointments bother me I just expect them and move on. Been called “cold” too many times to count. 👀

  • @andrielisilien
    @andrielisilien 6 лет назад +6

    This is me. I get stressed out at the idea of cancelling obligations because I'm sick. I wouldn't attack someone standing in my way, I tend to give up and curl into a ball of quiet sobs. When left alone I self medicate by having loud music to drown out my thoughts or I turn to self harm to feel. The out of body experience gives relief to all the thoughts.

  • @grumpyschnauzer
    @grumpyschnauzer 3 года назад +2

    Yup. Pretty much what my 20s were like. Then you go through the dark knight of the soul and hope to get through to the other side only to do it all over again... the ups, the downs and the mundane inbetween.

  • @nensi5813
    @nensi5813 2 года назад +1

    INFJ you guys are so cool. Luv from Enfp!

  • @trangdinh5104
    @trangdinh5104 3 года назад +3

    I was in Se grip that has lasted for years without knowing it. Jesus, completely impulsive, reckless, self-indulgent, aimless.
    Fortunately I didn't harm myself for too much, but it was so close. I was in the egde of self destroying.

  • @lauratrejos1528
    @lauratrejos1528 6 лет назад +5

    these videos are absolutely amazing!!! really helpful

    • @SaraMBTI
      @SaraMBTI  6 лет назад

      La nariz de tucan de Jeon Jungkook
      I am so glad you like it 😆😊

  • @pinkl3mon_
    @pinkl3mon_ Год назад

    Been here before. Numb, impulsive and overendulgent in sensory pleasures. Didn't expect this to be so relatable.

  • @KenziiRosebudz
    @KenziiRosebudz 6 лет назад +1

    This is so cool. Your the real mvp for this.

    • @SaraMBTI
      @SaraMBTI  6 лет назад

      Kenzii Rose Graves
      💕💕

  • @denster7715
    @denster7715 6 лет назад +10

    These videos are great keep it up.

    • @SaraMBTI
      @SaraMBTI  6 лет назад +1

      thank you so much

  • @lyaz0939
    @lyaz0939 6 лет назад +3

    Very nice of You to listen to a viewer's wish! :)
    Just a small suggestion for this serial: Put a short description in the Video Description explaining what these grips are and how each type SHOULD try to get out of their situation instead of escaping into their inferior function...

    • @SaraMBTI
      @SaraMBTI  6 лет назад +4

      Lyaz Sickness
      I am going to make videos about how to help others when they are in grips :))
      Thank you 💕

  • @lewdya2682
    @lewdya2682 4 года назад +2

    Oh the self hatred and self destructive behavior, a long known friend. Weird to say that but returning to these patterns often feels familiar and secure. It's like you're turning everything inward and against yourself because you are the one thing in your life that you have control over. Maybe some of you relate to this.

  • @Cossaw
    @Cossaw 6 лет назад +9

    This is really interesting! - INTJ guy 19 y/o

    • @lyaz0939
      @lyaz0939 6 лет назад +1

      Identical to the one about INTJ's grip, besides from the lack of Fe, really.... Escaping the Grip looks different for the two types, however.

  • @grisvolonte
    @grisvolonte 3 года назад +1

    Very true. My form of self-indulgent behavior is binge eating. Then, I regret it and feel disappointed in myself. It’s a cycle if I can’t break it during days where I feel stressed

  • @junesuprise
    @junesuprise 4 года назад +2

    I'm an intj and I enjoy club parties with hardcore techno music. I've been to one about a year ago tho lol

  • @ThaleiaFantasy
    @ThaleiaFantasy 5 лет назад +6

    Can I just say, as an INFJ ballet hobbyist and professional artist, how friggin' stressful and demanding being in an Se profession can be if you don't approach it from the right angle? I cannot imagine being a professional dancer, my Se would be completely exhausted every day, I would have nothing left for my personal life...

  • @nicolasdanek4225
    @nicolasdanek4225 Год назад +1

    I wish I saw this many years ago.

  • @Johnrambo-c4b
    @Johnrambo-c4b 2 месяца назад +1

    Just another infj watching it and feeling and going through the same the vdo as well as comments all are relatable

  • @whowillyoucallonthen4292
    @whowillyoucallonthen4292 6 лет назад +11

    Whew.
    That was intense.

    • @SaraMBTI
      @SaraMBTI  6 лет назад +4

      WhoWillYouCallOnThen?
      ,,NFs" can be intense :)

    • @whowillyoucallonthen4292
      @whowillyoucallonthen4292 6 лет назад

      Sara MBTI Well, if it's Real & (at core) Respect, I'll pick intense over superficial anytime. The "intense" here? Like, "cocaine, ecstasy, & LSD rip your heart out & let someone else eat & excrete it " kind? Yikes Oo. 😂😎

    • @brandonwilliams3777
      @brandonwilliams3777 6 лет назад

      Funny thing is this isn't even all that bad

    • @whowillyoucallonthen4292
      @whowillyoucallonthen4292 6 лет назад

      Brandon Williams I know... The worst part? It can leave you wanting more of none of it ever again.. And again... Annndd....?
      Maybe you can relate?

  • @guialmeida723
    @guialmeida723 2 года назад +4

    I was wondering if i was an infp or infj through the inferior function, and i realized that i am an infp, because the infj's repressed Se is self destructive and indulges the person in risky behaviour, it's like an evil version of Se, where you live in the moment in an extreme an risky way, with episodes of depersonalization
    Now, the infp's repressed Te makes the infp look heartless, cold and unstoppable, it gives them a sudden strenght to fix something but fails, and generates more stress and more stress
    I remember the days that i got really stressed and i didn't have depersonalization episodes and i never indulged myself in risky and extreme behaviour, instead, i became cold and furious, i tried to solve things in that state of mind, it failed and made me nore angry, until i suddenly calmed down and returned to the flower state
    If you are still uncertain,on stress, do you engage yourself in risky behaviour and live in the present in an extreme and unhealthy way, almost self destructing yourself? Then you are an infj or intj
    Now, if you become cold, mad, angry, gets tired of dealing with people and becomes obsessed with problems and try to solve them unusually fast, then you are an infp or isfp

  • @Irish_Clan
    @Irish_Clan 6 лет назад +3

    Hi! Looking forward to seeing Ni as an inferior function! :)

    • @SaraMBTI
      @SaraMBTI  6 лет назад +1

      Irish Clan
      I am going to make Estp soon :) 😊

  • @gloriouschaos3579
    @gloriouschaos3579 6 лет назад +2

    Describes me perfectly...

  • @sam7r4833
    @sam7r4833 5 лет назад +5

    I thought i had bpd when it was only Se

  • @SolomonSage
    @SolomonSage Год назад

    as an infj i remember being liek that in first seen with my mom its actually pretty terrifying se.

  • @beci1994
    @beci1994 5 лет назад +2

    Great video about the infj inferior grip, Sara!I’ve been doing that as an infp myself. But it’s pretty rare that I use my Se this self destructional way. I’d rather turn unexpectedly cold and rational, and just ignore others, and having a grudge. Also sabotaging myself and turning me against myself. I’ve been there. This is real. Even if it’s just the canvas of how we think! (And thus how we behave)

  • @diegolopes5919
    @diegolopes5919 11 месяцев назад +1

    So accurate ❤

  • @partacanna
    @partacanna 6 лет назад +2

    This scared me. I wonder what type I am.

  • @Kiyos473solitaryqueen
    @Kiyos473solitaryqueen 7 месяцев назад

    Same as intjs bcz we both have Se inferior

  • @woolfromtheking
    @woolfromtheking 3 года назад

    I am an intj and black swan is my favorite movie Bc I just relate to it so much

  • @boyera23
    @boyera23 6 лет назад +2

    I can completely relate to this 😓

  • @rudayo
    @rudayo 6 лет назад +4

    I can totally relate!

  • @mewthecat5268
    @mewthecat5268 6 лет назад +4

    You should look up effy stonem she is a perfect example

    • @meowmwoemow
      @meowmwoemow 5 лет назад +1

      Yeah, she is a great example. Cassie is a good example too. I think that boths are INFJs.

  • @Mayakran
    @Mayakran 6 лет назад +1

    Here’s where I always get confused-I test as INXJ yet I looooove loud and stimulating scenes (ADHD as well though and our brains crave excitement and dopamine). My friends all say INXJ but I don’t know, it’s hard to type yourself.

    • @meganm4877
      @meganm4877 4 года назад +1

      This is a year later so you may have confirmed your type in the meantime, but I am definitely INFJ and I also like loud music (sometimes) -- but only of my choosing, when I want it, and at exactly the volume I want it. Maybe it's like that for you too? Loud/stimulating is ok but only if you're in control of it?

  • @goubib
    @goubib 6 лет назад +1

    Another movie example is in What's Eating Gilbert Grape, when Gilbert hits Arnie. Always makes me tear up. I'm pretty sure Gilbert is an infj.

  • @okbruh
    @okbruh 5 лет назад +1

    INFP here. It's terrible when we fall into false extroversion. The world weights heavier. Sigh.

  • @excrono
    @excrono 28 дней назад

    For me it’s using Ni/Ti to manipulate the situation into enabling blind Si grip (in the throws of sensory addiction while completely masking that to others) defeating any effective social accountability except to yourself, who is blindly oblivious to your own needs until after the fact. You feel remorse for a while, but relapse having poor empathy for how that made you feel.

  • @saskiazaaura
    @saskiazaaura 6 лет назад +1

    And about INFJ's doorslam , my ex bf doorslammed his ex before mine and his ex friends.
    He didn't follow back her ig and blocked her ig , He blocked his friend ig too.

  • @jamjam0409
    @jamjam0409 3 года назад

    I never experienced it that hard.

  • @rajig4852
    @rajig4852 3 года назад +2

    Is it more like a manic episode !?

    • @danishbutter1847
      @danishbutter1847 3 года назад +2

      It can eventually turn into one when combine with the worst crisis or PTSD episodes like abuse or meltdown or with Bipolar Disorder.

  • @sanghitadey8475
    @sanghitadey8475 3 месяца назад

    Harsh? What harsh? She was deliberately disrupting her plans

  • @lindvauros9818
    @lindvauros9818 5 лет назад +2

    hmmmm so the Se grip seems a lot like a manic episode.... I'm not sure if I'm indeed bipolar or just INFJ... I mean, I'm pretty sure I'm INFJ and I have always felt like an oddball and then I went through what people would call a psychotic break they actually diagnosed me bipolar... but to me it just felt like a natural thing to happen given all I was going through at the time. Se grips explains it actully quite well. Moreover, I'm more atuned to the mystic side of INFJ so I'd rather think of this as a ill byproduct of that path...

  • @Alterrius
    @Alterrius 6 лет назад +1

    I think I developed a cancer from this

  • @winggoddess
    @winggoddess Год назад +2

    I don’t see that as being Se. Seems like the woman wants to keep her plans, which is true to a J type. But then the 2nd part of the vid is her being reckless at a rave or something, which is more like what a P would do. I do not handle stress this way. I either explode with anger, cry, or withdraw to my room where i can be alone and recover on my own. (I am INFJ/INTJ. Both have Se as inferior function. I could relate to the first part of the vid, the keeping to plans. I just don’t agree that it’s an example of Se.)

  • @AbundanceMindset111
    @AbundanceMindset111 6 лет назад +2

    Can relate a lot. I m n infj.

  • @RyuukoGo
    @RyuukoGo 6 лет назад +2

    Very interesting ..

  • @phuongong40
    @phuongong40 3 года назад +1

    tbh she's more an INTJ

    • @whateverbonbon9214
      @whateverbonbon9214 2 года назад

      No

    • @phuongong40
      @phuongong40 2 года назад +1

      @@whateverbonbon9214 why not? They both have inferior Se, how can you tell?

    • @Astonelle
      @Astonelle Год назад

      @@phuongong40 she's not. She's the perfect example of an unhealthy INFJ. I don't see any Te whatsoever

  • @hugdonluther2044
    @hugdonluther2044 Месяц назад

    Imo, INFJ and INTJ can go crazy mode aka toxic behavior. I have infj sister and she did terrible things. She almost get pregnant or losing virginity to strange man. It's stupid. Now she choose to be single for a reason. She is crazy asf. Idk if she is estp or infj. When she is under stress, she will lash out and throw stuffs at me when I have nothing to do or know anything. If I get angry, usually tend to self isolation. My enfp brother is also crazy. So if both siblings gets crazy from their job/school, it is chaotic. I can not sleep. It's too loud. Omg. My sister will turn kpop songs like maniac from hell. She will dance and sing so loud.
    No one say something but i am tired. if I got mad bcs obviously it's midnight, my isfj mom tend to defend my infj sister. I get slap on my face. It hurts being the eldest. My enfp brother gets to destroys stuffs and mocking others. Imagine i was force to get into bathroom and he pour cold water on me. I was a sleep and get that for no reason. This is crazy. You think infp is crazy? Who make infp crazy? The environment cause infp gets crazy. If you want to destroy yourself just go away far and not do it to me. I just want to sleep.

  • @geethanjalibalaji5232
    @geethanjalibalaji5232 2 года назад

    I always in the grip of inferior function

  • @Levi-fy9tp
    @Levi-fy9tp 4 года назад +1

    Well at this moment 1:06 I closed my eyes and turned off sounds, i hate too much infarmation at once

  • @orangesheep7094
    @orangesheep7094 3 года назад +1

    So... This movie is actually about Se inferior?

  • @edgectrl3346
    @edgectrl3346 6 лет назад +1

    This is a good video

    • @lyaz0939
      @lyaz0939 6 лет назад +1

      This is a good serial.

  • @fuhgetabatit1051
    @fuhgetabatit1051 4 года назад +1

    The character here has schizophrenia tho. But I like the video!

  • @PsiCorps85
    @PsiCorps85 6 лет назад +4

    Some of the captions are a little too far to the left, but I can still understand what they're saying.
    Are the INFJs more harsh than INTJs when in Se's grip?

    • @SaraMBTI
      @SaraMBTI  6 лет назад +11

      I would say less agurmentative but more harsh :)

    • @SaraMBTI
      @SaraMBTI  6 лет назад

      I post that caption here too :) tnx for letting me know I made a mistake

  • @nachannachle2706
    @nachannachle2706 6 лет назад +7

    Hm. I don't understand what is happening at all. Even with the captions/notes.
    It sure looks like a lot of random overblown nonsense for my brain to process... but then when did a grip experience ever made sense to external observers? :)

    • @lyaz0939
      @lyaz0939 6 лет назад +2

      Go watch the movie, enojoy it, then come back here and redo this. ;) Compare this video to the one about the INTJ's grip in inferior Se. ("10 things I hate about you" or so...)

    • @nachannachle2706
      @nachannachle2706 6 лет назад

      +Lyaz Sickness Technically, I don't need to watch/know the films to understand what is happening. I tend to pick up on the patterns to piece what the deeper meaning is and its implications for the character's journey. I haven't watched the film on Einstein, but I could sort of make sense of that grip experience in the social context.
      But with this one, nothing sticks. There is zero depth in those scenes, probably because the episodes pictured are devoid of any meaning. It's nihilism and self-destruction to the extreme.
      I find it intellectually empty and aesthetically repulsive.

    • @LuminescentQuarter
      @LuminescentQuarter 6 лет назад +5

      Nachannachle This is Se-grip. What kind of depth can you find here.

    • @lyaz0939
      @lyaz0939 6 лет назад

      Nachannachle Well, these scenes were maybe lacking... That does not imply that the movie is bad and lacking soul.
      I get what you are saying..

    • @brandonwilliams3777
      @brandonwilliams3777 6 лет назад +9

      I'm an infj, so I can give you a bit more detail
      When we get stressed, we get reckless, intolerant, and come off as an estp with a mean streak. Our normally cool exterior is gone, and we respond to everything with extreme force. Our ability to read others is used as a weapon, however even stressed, we try not to hurt those that don't deserve it. We will also conceal our feelings so others will just see us as being slightly irritable unless they are around to see a blow up.
      That said, we will search for reasons to lash out. We also have a tendency to unload every habit and secret we know about you in order to break you down piece by piece. We can actually get more vindictive than our intj counter part, we are just better at hiding it.
      In lamest terms, think of us like a volcano. Most of the time, the area around the volcano has some of the best and most pleasant land to live on. However, every so often, there is an eruption. That eruption represents our grip, and it's very obvious when we are in it
      Edited for spelling. My phone hates me lol

  • @BenVaserlan
    @BenVaserlan 6 лет назад

    Is this accurate for how the INFJ resembler experiences Te?: "Not frugal, sometimes spends on a whim and is left with no money for necessities. While working, the associative train of thought frequently leads him away, so it's hard to stay on task. Tries to make the most of the resources that fall into his hands, though any entrepreneurial activity involving risks tends to exhaust him quickly. Usually spends a lot of energy on a project, with modest outcome." - To see the whole profile, search RUclips for 'INFJ Coconut shell'. :)

  • @jlryder97
    @jlryder97 6 лет назад +4

    This is interesting. I'm pretty sure I've never crashed psychologically this badly. I definitely am harsh - well-practiced verbal offensive with family. In fact, I think I fought so hard with my father and brother growing up, I pretty much never hit the Se grip entirely. Se "grip" happens more peppered here and there. I don't get the robotic feeling part tho? I'll have to go think on this... I do have some body issues that make hard partying pretty much impossible. Roboticism maybe comes on days when I have zero energy and it hurts to move. Ugh... So, it's not Se grip for me. It's more like Se cling. Se fog.

    • @SaraMBTI
      @SaraMBTI  6 лет назад +2

      You probably never were under chronic, extreme stress :))) that is amazing, lucky you 😆💜

    • @jlryder97
      @jlryder97 6 лет назад +2

      Lol, chronic stress, yes. Energy to sustain full-on Se crash like this... maybe not. I really think for me it's bottled and constantly vented/felt at a lower level because body can't deliver.

    • @jlryder97
      @jlryder97 6 лет назад +1

      For what it's worth, the other confirmed INFJ in my life was a serious alcoholic, so epitomized this basically :( I just never connected it to INFJ before but it makes total sense. (Not in my life anymore really... broke my heart but had to leave him.)

  • @mamamoonie
    @mamamoonie 6 лет назад +1

    By stress I'm sure you mean by experience of a previously traumatic event also?

    • @SaraMBTI
      @SaraMBTI  6 лет назад +1

      J Yummy
      Chronic extreme stress is cause of this statement.
      I am not sure about traumatic events. They probably make an impact.
      What is your experoence as an Infj? :)

    • @mamamoonie
      @mamamoonie 6 лет назад

      Sara MBTI difficult and heartbreaking in some cases especially considering the world we live in and events I have experienced yet my personality type, zodiac sign♑and God/Creator is what pulled me through it all and overall has been a beautiful and awakening experience. I asked that question because I have experienced a traumatic event and had an out of body experience as described in the video soon after the event, I believe it was due to not having an empathic shoulder to cry on and my insurance was outdated at the time so I couldn't seek a therapist, needless to say it was hell!

    • @SaraMBTI
      @SaraMBTI  6 лет назад

      J Yummy
      I hope you are doing well now ❤ stay strong!

    • @mamamoonie
      @mamamoonie 6 лет назад

      Sara MBTI 😘 I'm getting healthier and growing each day!

  • @yuukiku
    @yuukiku 6 лет назад +4

    I knew she’d be an INFJ

    • @Introvert_Honey
      @Introvert_Honey 6 лет назад +3

      The character, sure. The actress, ISTJ. :)

  • @vluessky
    @vluessky 3 года назад

    So you’re telling me this is not something everyone does?

  • @CandyApples4ever
    @CandyApples4ever 6 лет назад +1

    Hey can you do Isfj grip if possible?

    • @SaraMBTI
      @SaraMBTI  6 лет назад

      mewkuro12 it's next :))

  • @c.s.70
    @c.s.70 6 лет назад +7

    Under value violations stress I as an INFJ become direct and harsh with my harsh "truth", and way harsher than she is in this clip. Only under extreme stress can I see myself being impulsive and losing control. The character of NP seems more like an ISFJ phony to me, secretly wanting to be noticed and praised, passive, pretentious, secretive, constantly worried how she is perceived, and 'perfectionistic' in an mechanical Si way without INFJ drive/vision and authenticity although one pities her abusive (mother) situation. When stressed ISFJ can get very physical. Incidentally, INFJ can spot a fake/phony person a mile away and Natalie Portman is def one, a lot of what she portrays in this particular role rings true because it is heavily drawn from her own psychology and past experiences and fears. How do I know? Ni intuition. Her acting in other roles are painfully wooden and lacking authenticity. That part where she sneakily claims other people's hard work and credit as her own from her body double real ballerina is very much like an ISFJ I know (she wanted the adulation from people being impressed by her 'dancing skills' and for the oscar campaign), they can care way too much at their phony self image and sneakily steal other people credit only to bat eyes innocently and pretend they don't know anything even when painfully obvious. ISFJs can be great, it largely depends on the person and their principles. Would be interested to see you do ISFJ grip. Forgive the rant, but as an INFJ I can't stand phony people! (lol, couldn't you tell?) Anyways, Good work with your other grip vids!

    • @SaraMBTI
      @SaraMBTI  6 лет назад +3

      C. S.
      Thank you for this comment! As an Ni dom myself, I appreciate ,,Ni opinions" because I know that person who use Ni knows what he/she is talking about (even if their view is different than mine).
      I am going to make Isfj too :) I am trying to make this for each type
      Thank you for watching grip series 😊💕

    • @deadsoon
      @deadsoon 6 лет назад +2

      C. S. I have never liked her. I truly don't know why, she gives me an off vibe. Granted, I'm no infj but I do have high Ni. Also Nina's character is definitely not an intuitive. So seeing your pov is interesting to see ^^

    • @JonasAnandaKristiansson
      @JonasAnandaKristiansson 6 лет назад +1

      TOTALLY relating here, can picture and structure all of it and come to the same thought about it. Imbalanced and immature ISFJs...eh...

    • @c.s.70
      @c.s.70 6 лет назад

      Well, thanks for making them ;) Very interesting. On this one in particular I could see where you where coming from ;) Just that the performance of said actress was lacking for this purpose. I appreciate the explanatory notations, which are mostly spot on. Look forward to them!

    • @c.s.70
      @c.s.70 6 лет назад +1

      Yay, Ni unite! Reading your comment is validating, so thanks for that. I can't tell you how many times these kind of casual insights have been dismissed, shot down, discredited, and ascribed to some ridiculous shallow motive such as jealousy or malcontent or other defect in the 'messenger'. You probably have had these experiences yourself as well ;) I had my share of jealousy esp. when younger, but of an immature ISFJ? Nah...I'll pass. This is prob why I keep most of my thoughts to myself. I initially hesitated posting that comment in case it came too harsh on this thread. Maybe this is an INFJ thing, thinking themselves aliens among aliens even in an INFJ forum. Then I went, ah fuck it, I'm just gonna to write what I think/feel...INFJ feedback to INFJ video. Real INFJs tend to prefer unfiltered shit anyways.
      Anyhow, I've enjoyed seen your comments elsewhere on INFJ topics; your contributions are appreciated.

  • @wagnerlb1760
    @wagnerlb1760 4 года назад

    So what's the difference between the Se-inferior in the INTJ or INFJ? i'm trying to type myself and i'm between these two types, but in the videos on this channel it seems very similar, so the only thing that changes is the guilty INFJ feels? It seems a little ambiguous...

  • @SolomonSage
    @SolomonSage 2 года назад

    Out of control yep so let me ask you what’s wrong with being out of control freedom and passion are good things

  • @marinamarini9443
    @marinamarini9443 4 года назад

    Title of Song?

  • @fines158
    @fines158 3 года назад

    Thanks

  • @sanataghadosnezhad4494
    @sanataghadosnezhad4494 4 года назад

    What is movei name?

  • @saxongreen78
    @saxongreen78 4 года назад

    Nigh on perfect. 👌

  • @redroselace9545
    @redroselace9545 6 лет назад

    Can you do an esfj pls?

    • @SaraMBTI
      @SaraMBTI  6 лет назад

      Redrose Abd
      Ofc, I am going to do this for each type :)

  • @OiVinn-eq1ml
    @OiVinn-eq1ml 6 лет назад

    What’s this movie called

    • @deadsoon
      @deadsoon 6 лет назад +1

      S S black swan, m8