I'm getting great results with a ceiling bounce above the camera and then a ceiling pop on the left and right sides of a long room using my AD200 with a round head and blending the shadows out with the ambient exposure. I don't know why I would spend any money on either of these modifiers for real estate photography. As far as the white balance, that is easily fixed in post. That's my experience and two cents worth. Thanks again for all the videos, I know they are not easy to shoot and edit and I appreciate the time and effort you put into that work and share with the community.
I 100% agree with everything you said. Rooms where you can't bounce off ceiling, these are good options without having to deal with an umbrella. The ad200 is probably the most popular to use. Thanks again!
@@joefoto For wood or dark ceilings I still would choose a shoot through umbrella; but if space is a problem, then maybe the Godox diffuser may have a place in your bag. I appreciate you and thank you again for your time to read and answer posts. Merry Christmas!
As already mentioned, you can’t judge the colour differences until both are set to the same values, temp and tint. A grey target in both images would give you the ability to measure the bias difference in post with the eye dropper. One reason the Magmod looked softer in the wall shadow was due to its translucent design. A lot of light is bouncing off the ceiling and some light is being diffused from the sides. Whereas the Godox is opaque and the light being transmitted is similar around it’s spherical axis.
Good point. I didn't think of that. So with that fact, makes me prefer the Godox that much more because I want to throw as much light into the room using the modifier and not so much the ceiling. Thanks for your comment!
Joe - thanks for your straighforward video. It was a bit obvious from the beginning which way you were going to tilt, but I do appreciate the side by side. Disclaimer: I'm all in on MagMod as I also do a lot of beach portraits and the convenience of their system is a gamechanger in those types of environments. But I also use it for Flambient RE. You ARE using a Gen 1 magsphere, obviously yellowed, so you will have to us the right custom WB either in camera or post to compensate. A color checker or gray card shot is helpful here. My main point I wanted to make is that I'm having pretty good results using a MagBounce+AD200 for my flambient flash pops and key lights. you can hold it straight up at fan level and basically nearly eliminate fan shadowing and it's a good tool to eliminate color casting from dark ceilings. Would love to see you do a video on that modifier , as it's not an application that MagMod themselves are focused on, but it does work well.
I use the Godox CD15 on a V1 and AD 200 and have been testing the results on a Sony A7III. I heard about these from Adaroma videos and now you. The results I am getting are better than the Bracketed shots that I have been doing. I get way better WB with the Godox setup and have reduced my editing time.
I like the way the godox lights up the room. Do you notice any difference from changing its shape? or do you just shoot with it in full bulb form every time?
Very good video. I will add one of these for wood ceilings as I no longer feel like pulling out the STU these days. Heck this might even distribute light better, but I question the size abd added bulk to my bag despite how small it may be. Thanks for the insight.
@@joefoto The one thing that bothered me were the harsh shadows along items in the room are harsher than even bare bulb on a ceiling bounce. even though we can mask those in with an ambient exposure on luminosity we get the weird colour casting that we have to deal with on luminosity. I feel as if that Dom does spread light better overall but causes harsher shadows on items on the walls which drives me nuts
my godox V1 can't hold the Godox ML-CD15 completely in the vertical shoot. the head of V1 will fall down gradually because ML-CD15 is too heavy. this is the critical problem for me when i do the event photography, so i'm going to buy Godox AK-R22 which is lighter than ML-CD15
I use the Godox system, and my only complaint is the mounting system. The plastic ring is large and a silicone mounting system similar to the magmod system would be nice, even if it was a separate accessory.
Although I like this video, I think this video is a bit dishonest in that the W/B settings used during your comparisons were not exactly the same. The comparison settings for the MagMod were 4900/25 and 4900/19 for the Godox. Even when you adjusted the MagMod temp to 4590, you never adjusted the tint settings. Tint impacts an image just as much as the temp does. For that reason, the findings were skewed. You replied to another person that the color cast was not the point, but you spoke of it as if it's something for viewers to consider so it becomes a factor. Less knowledgable viewers take what's reported as gospel... at least I did when I first started. Anyway, other than that I really appreciated your detailed shadow comparisons, and this video helped me decide on which one of these devices to purchase. 📸
Got the godox to do my own family portraits of my kids. I've had a little bit to play with it and see how it throws light in the various different positions, but need to so some more experiments with it. I don't do real estate but it seems like it's decent for it since it just lets you shoot diffused light everywhere.
Yes and no. The light coming out of it, even though they look practically identical, isn't identical somehow. The ML-CD15 gives a better spread, just better results. Lastly, I wouldn't get the AK-R22 because it has a magenta tinge to its physical structure. That's because it was mainly built to cancel the green color cast the AD100's originally had (they've since rectified that with subsequent rollouts of the light. Discontinued now because of their new V100 100w speedlight).
This is such a shame, I thought this was my analogue with Ali Selens Magsphere yellow +400-500K. So the original sphere is the same. And yes guys! this miracle takes 2 stops of light. Using it on an on-camera flash is suicide. On the additional one, just to fill it beautifully with light somewhere on the side or behind the model, yes! Has the right to life. But only in a dark room. Because 2 stops is 2 stops, too many losses.
Thanks for the comment. I was looking to buy 1 for family pics on a6700. But all youtube videos are directed towards studio and no 1 take experiment like outside without anything to bounce off etc. Lol But your content helped me, will not buy I guess
Why you didnt checked tint too, thats why it looked more orange, i advise you to delete this video and make another record, 2 photos with the same temperature and tint
Tint is magenta and green hue. Would not have changed the orange. Besides that's not what the test was fully about. It was about how well it can light a room. Thanks for your input though.
I'm getting great results with a ceiling bounce above the camera and then a ceiling pop on the left and right sides of a long room using my AD200 with a round head and blending the shadows out with the ambient exposure. I don't know why I would spend any money on either of these modifiers for real estate photography. As far as the white balance, that is easily fixed in post. That's my experience and two cents worth. Thanks again for all the videos, I know they are not easy to shoot and edit and I appreciate the time and effort you put into that work and share with the community.
I 100% agree with everything you said. Rooms where you can't bounce off ceiling, these are good options without having to deal with an umbrella. The ad200 is probably the most popular to use. Thanks again!
@@joefoto For wood or dark ceilings I still would choose a shoot through umbrella; but if space is a problem, then maybe the Godox diffuser may have a place in your bag. I appreciate you and thank you again for your time to read and answer posts. Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas to you too!
As already mentioned, you can’t judge the colour differences until both are set to the same values, temp and tint. A grey target in both images would give you the ability to measure the bias difference in post with the eye dropper. One reason the Magmod looked softer in the wall shadow was due to its translucent design. A lot of light is bouncing off the ceiling and some light is being diffused from the sides. Whereas the Godox is opaque and the light being transmitted is similar around it’s spherical axis.
Good point. I didn't think of that. So with that fact, makes me prefer the Godox that much more because I want to throw as much light into the room using the modifier and not so much the ceiling. Thanks for your comment!
Joe - thanks for your straighforward video. It was a bit obvious from the beginning which way you were going to tilt, but I do appreciate the side by side. Disclaimer: I'm all in on MagMod as I also do a lot of beach portraits and the convenience of their system is a gamechanger in those types of environments. But I also use it for Flambient RE. You ARE using a Gen 1 magsphere, obviously yellowed, so you will have to us the right custom WB either in camera or post to compensate. A color checker or gray card shot is helpful here. My main point I wanted to make is that I'm having pretty good results using a MagBounce+AD200 for my flambient flash pops and key lights. you can hold it straight up at fan level and basically nearly eliminate fan shadowing and it's a good tool to eliminate color casting from dark ceilings. Would love to see you do a video on that modifier , as it's not an application that MagMod themselves are focused on, but it does work well.
Ok! That's a great idea. I have used the magbounce before and was using it for a long time. Thanks for the suggestion! And thanks for your comment.
i used 2 ml-cd15 for my ad100 pro and tt685ii for awhile now and they are excellent.
Awesome. Thank you for sharing!.
I use the Godox CD15 on a V1 and AD 200 and have been testing the results on a Sony A7III. I heard about these from Adaroma videos and now you. The results I am getting are better than the Bracketed shots that I have been doing. I get way better WB with the Godox setup and have reduced my editing time.
Awesome. Ya. I'm liking the results myself so far. Thanks for the comment.
I adapted the Godox for the AD600. Works amazingly!!!
Please share how you did that!
@@joefoto maybe a yellowed modifier is a result of it almost touching the bulb on the ad600?, im new to flash photography....
@@joefoto I'd like to know myself 🙂
I just bought the ML-CD15 and is looking forward to using it with my shoots
Let me know what ya think.
Thank you for this. Exactly the video I needed to make my decision. I’m going to save money. I’m going with Godox
I like the way the godox lights up the room. Do you notice any difference from changing its shape? or do you just shoot with it in full bulb form every time?
Never tried any thing other than leaving it in full shape. Now you got me wondering.
Well I bought one either way. Thanks for doing this
You're welcome :)
Very good video. I will add one of these for wood ceilings as I no longer feel like pulling out the STU these days. Heck this might even distribute light better, but I question the size abd added bulk to my bag despite how small it may be. Thanks for the insight.
It crunches down super small. It's worth it in my opinion.
@@joefoto The one thing that bothered me were the harsh shadows along items in the room are harsher than even bare bulb on a ceiling bounce.
even though we can mask those in with an ambient exposure on luminosity we get the weird colour casting that we have to deal with on luminosity. I feel as if that Dom does spread light better overall but causes harsher shadows on items on the walls which drives me nuts
@@photos-fera7392ya. Honestly when I was using a stu, I had the best results. It's a never ending battle trying to find the best method it seems.
The MagMod MagSphere looks yellow to me. Also, not worth the high price for a rubber diffuser. Just my thoughts. Thanks for the videos Joe.
It is and it affected the white balance in my tests. Nope, not worth it for the price . Thanks for watching!
my godox V1 can't hold the Godox ML-CD15 completely in the vertical shoot. the head of V1 will fall down gradually because ML-CD15 is too heavy. this is the critical problem for me when i do the event photography, so i'm going to buy Godox AK-R22 which is lighter than ML-CD15
Great advice. Thank you for sharing.
I use the Godox system, and my only complaint is the mounting system. The plastic ring is large and a silicone mounting system similar to the magmod system would be nice, even if it was a separate accessory.
Ya. But it isn't all that complex but magmod Def had the upper hand when it comes to ease of use.
omg thank you for this !! i almost got the wrong one
glad I did not over spend with Mag got the Godox instead
Ya. It's just as good. If not better.
What is the difference between silicon dome diffuser and plastic dome diffuser which comes in ak r1 kit
Honestly probably no difference
I rarely use multi flash pops…bounce back with the AD 200…or have you heard/seen Scott Hargis multi flash system?
No but I will look him up. Thanks!
Tint was different too. Not just the temp. :)
Ya. I know. I'm going to do another comparison in a wood home and see the results
Although I like this video, I think this video is a bit dishonest in that the W/B settings used during your comparisons were not exactly the same. The comparison settings for the MagMod were 4900/25 and 4900/19 for the Godox. Even when you adjusted the MagMod temp to 4590, you never adjusted the tint settings. Tint impacts an image just as much as the temp does. For that reason, the findings were skewed. You replied to another person that the color cast was not the point, but you spoke of it as if it's something for viewers to consider so it becomes a factor. Less knowledgable viewers take what's reported as gospel... at least I did when I first started. Anyway, other than that I really appreciated your detailed shadow comparisons, and this video helped me decide on which one of these devices to purchase. 📸
Thelank you. I do need to either redo this one or a similar comparison. I was made aware of that mistake early on after this video.
Do you know if the Godox will fit on a Westcot FJ200?
By the looks of it I would guess no, but maybe someone will see your question and chime in.
Got the godox to do my own family portraits of my kids. I've had a little bit to play with it and see how it throws light in the various different positions, but need to so some more experiments with it. I don't do real estate but it seems like it's decent for it since it just lets you shoot diffused light everywhere.
Yes. Best modifier I've used besides a big shoot through umbrella..
You dont need adapter for v1 and godox difuser. your magmod diffuser already old and looks yellow. also diffusers people buy to shoot people not walls
I only use a modifier for dark and wood ceilings. Otherwise just bare flash
is the ml-cd15 same as ak r-22?
By the looks of it the mounts are different but the shape is the exact same thing. Results would be identical.
Yes and no. The light coming out of it, even though they look practically identical, isn't identical somehow. The ML-CD15 gives a better spread, just better results. Lastly, I wouldn't get the AK-R22 because it has a magenta tinge to its physical structure. That's because it was mainly built to cancel the green color cast the AD100's originally had (they've since rectified that with subsequent rollouts of the light. Discontinued now because of their new V100 100w speedlight).
This is such a shame, I thought this was my analogue with Ali Selens Magsphere yellow +400-500K. So the original sphere is the same.
And yes guys! this miracle takes 2 stops of light.
Using it on an on-camera flash is suicide.
On the additional one, just to fill it beautifully with light somewhere on the side or behind the model, yes! Has the right to life. But only in a dark room.
Because 2 stops is 2 stops, too many losses.
Thank you for the comment :)
Thanks for the comment. I was looking to buy 1 for family pics on a6700. But all youtube videos are directed towards studio and no 1 take experiment like outside without anything to bounce off etc. Lol
But your content helped me, will not buy I guess
@@sidha22 I would use a medium size softbox for outdoor pics.
Why you didnt checked tint too, thats why it looked more orange, i advise you to delete this video and make another record, 2 photos with the same temperature and tint
Tint is magenta and green hue. Would not have changed the orange. Besides that's not what the test was fully about. It was about how well it can light a room. Thanks for your input though.
Bought magmod from ali expres with 20 euros.
Godox
This might be the worst testing I’ve ever seen. Very little is the same and not using a color or light meter is wild. #fail
I think you using the magsphere 1 not the 2 version. There is a reason magmod released a second version to correct any defects
Oh! I wasn't aware of this. Thank you for sharing this.
no matter what version it is still not worth it for the price. especially for a round heads.
Just use magnets & super glue it on GODOX ML-CD15 so it will stick to your flash that has metal parts.
That's a good idea!