When you want to know if you should trust someone in a job knows what they're doing, ask them a simple question about that job. If they keep talking until you stop them, they should not have that job or be responsible for anything important money wise for that job.
For those of you who aren’t old enough to remember; this is real journalism. This is how it used to be for ALL public figures when they were dishonest.
"Can you answer this simple question?" "I appreciate your passion. Love that. It's so great. It's why I wanted to have a conversation with you before going on your channel." "Let's go back to my question.." "Of course, this passion is incredible. But you're presuming bla bla bla bla" Holy crap this guy is a professional dodge ball player
Nah, a pro would not be so obvious in dodging the question, they would pretend to be answering it, but without actually saying anything of substance. I've been watching a lot of political interview dissections lately 😄
Unlike Coffezilla, who is a person that I used to like, but now he's a liar and scam artist. Voidzilla is a very passionate man, and I respect that very much
"We are happy that you are talking to us, we do not steer clear from tough questions, but we believe you are rude, so we want you to apologize and never talk about us again"
The mere fact they thought it was a good idea to come on here demonstrates poor judgement. What’s interesting is it’s genuinely difficult to assess the degree to which they are naïvely optimistic versus predatory
Rule #2 of investigative journalism: If the person you're trying to interview tries to legally pressure you into silence, that means you're on to something. (Rule #1 is "Don't talk to the police.")
We wont lose money, because if someone tries to redeem thier rewards, we will simply say they are not using the token in good faith, and not pay them any rewards they were promised. Thats basically what i understood from this.
I love these uncut, audio-only interviews in The Void because there's certain facial expressions you make after getting an especially bullshit non-answer that are just amazing
That seems to be the main scammer technique. Just babble tangentially related nonsense until nobody can possibly decipher what you are talking about, then act like you explained everything.
Love when he said says “let me explain” and then proceeds to do no explaining. He’s actually really good at it cuz i slowly start losing interest in the nonsense
I love how you smiled when he said "love the energy". You sir are a true skeptic. Not suspicious at all that he frequently says in some form "thanks for asking the hard questions. I love your approach".... "When you haven't done anything wrong, there's nothing to hide"......"Please sign these legal docs limiting the scope of discussion"
I'm 15 minutes in and so far the CEO's plan to remain profitable is to just print more tokens as they need them, he views them as monopoly money with his company operating as the monopoly game board, but for the same reasons why countries that continuously 'print' money wind up with ridiculous inflation and a severe devaluation of the labor force of that country. This is the exact reason why we have regulations and a centralization of currency within most countries. The only people who benefit from a lack of regulations are the people looking to do things the regulations would otherwise prevent them from doing anyway.
Bingo. If he just came out and said "yeah it's inflationary, the token won't be worth as many miles in the future", then I could respect his honesty. But he desperately does not want to admit this. The only possibilities are default or inflation.
He seemed to alternate between flattery and shaming attempts, and when all of tgat failed, he just went on rambling rants where he managed to avoid answering whatever questions were asked. While I wouldn't come anywhere close to investing in whatever crap they're selling, but there is an arena that his abilities and tactics not only wouldn't be frowned upon, and would be celebrated. I'm speaking, of course, of politics, where promising all kinds of positive results, while not accomplishing, or even attempting to accomplish them, generally receives little to none negative consequences.
There isn't any sustainability. They don't offer anything to sell, that would make the money they need to give back to the investors. We need to teach this stuff in schools, because clearly people don't see "10x" and run like they should do.
big deal stock traders say 2% is the gold standard and what people should be striving for with getting a return. IF a wolf of wall street is out there with their nose to the grindstone, TRYING to get 2% as a day job, plugging in 9-5 everyday. And someone comes around, and says that you can turn a profit of x10, with no effort...RIP bozo
But "it doesn't cost [them] anything to issue rewards" lol why would they need to make money to hand money out /s On a serious note, it's not education that's the issue, it's the way we allow bad actors to prey on vulnerable people. Regulators need to step in and put the fear of law into them. We also need to pay people sustainable, living wages so they don't need to 10x their money to do more than just survive.
That’s such a good point. I’m so glad Coffee is here to educate us, but you’re right-this should be a mandatory class for high school seniors. We are far too hyper-capitalist for that to happen tho
@@Spoopball What are you talking about? 2% gold standard? For what, return on savings? The Fed is literally paying 5% interest on reserves which are base money like cash. You can buy Treasuries that pay that or simply a savings account.
I was listening to this yesterday on X. You grilled him! it was hilarious listening to this CEO compliment you and your energy, and call you a hater in the exact same breath.
Step 1: CZ asks a question. Step 2: Other Guy gives an insincere compliment. Step 3: Other Guy stammers out evasive word salad. Step 4: Other Guy plays victim. Step 5: CZ asks same question. Step 6: Other Guy gives an insincere compliment. Step 7: Other Guy stammers out evasive word salad. Step 8: Other Guy plays victim. Step 9: CZ asks same question. Step 10: Other Guy gives an insincere compliment. Step 11: Other Guy stammers out evasive word salad. Step 12: Other Guy plays victim. Step 13: CZ asks same question. Step 14: Other Guy gives an insincere compliment. Step 15: Other Guy stammers out evasive word salad. Step 16: Other Guy plays victim. Step 17: CZ asks same question. Step 18: Other Guy gives an insincere compliment. Step 19: Other Guy stammers out evasive word salad. Step 20: Other Guy plays victim. Repeat
Mate, those compliments were too much - the first five times I figured he was just nervous, but now I think he did some "master manipulator" course that recommended disarming with compliments.
In summary" "If you understood how it worked you wouldn't be asking such silly questions" Coffeezilla: "Then explain to me how it works" "I can't explain that without an NDA" "Use laymans terms" "Uh....Uh....uh..."
"You're making assumptions. Assumptions based on the shady information we have kind of provided and if you want to know more, you legally have to keep it a secret. Not that we're lying."
This felt like 1.5 hours of the perfect non-answers. We need to pay for this-but we actually don't, and we offer this-but you can not redeem it the way we said you could. Dude should do politics lmao.
I have the same issue. Do i want to get insanely pissed at something i have zero involvement with? To what end? I always click off halfway through...and then it happens again. Another video getting me pissy. By the way...i love the passion.
"its sustainable because it doesnt cost us money to issue rewards, we just print tokens. we make money because we charge a subscription fee. its one of a kind" - actually that sounds like a pretty common scam in the crypto space
I love how when you got to your point about how they make money he starts getting all tongue tied and nervous and starts pointing out negative situations.
he was tongue twisting and hyper talking from the beginning, not a good sign of clear conscience. From the first few sentences i knew that guy aint good.
It's because you don't hear from CEOs that actually run an up & up business that's profitable due to actual sale of products and services. Because that CEO is actually working. If a CEO is doing PR or damage control, that company is either losing money or looking for stock value rather than concrete commercial profits.
lol, he says at around 16:00, that he wants to answer all the tough questions but doesn’t want to put his company in a situation that can’t be fixed. That’s essentially an admission that you can’t explain how this model works credibly. Which, obviously, but it’s funny that he even went that far.
“We have no churn” and offer a subscription model 🚩🚩🚩. Churn doesn’t even have to come from people who don’t enjoy the platform. You’re going to have natural churn from life happening to people.
@ there’s probably a disconnect between how he thinks it would work versus how it actually works. Our CEO at a startup would say and do things like that and create all sorts of fires for us to put out.
Plutus receive, lets say, and be optimistic: 25k$ in subscriptions per month 10k$ in visa fees and partners =35k$ incoming money they give users 10k PLU per month to all users lets say it costs 6$ for them to issue the 10$ giftcards per 1 PLU =60k$ expenses in benefits, excluding salaries, etc Make it make sense
The CEO is attempting to bake in a value to PLU that is 'assumed', but at the same time his solution to everything seems to be 'print more PLU' He both sees PLU as having an intrinsic value and while also being equal to Chuck E Cheese tokens in monetary worth. When calculating the rewards, he's considering the PLU coming back to them in exchange for the 'reward' as profit in the form of more shares of PLU that could then be sold again. His idea isn't actually that far off from a regular stock exchange, with the glaring exception that he has the ability to 'produce' new PLU out of thin air at the expense of massively devaluing the 'value' of PLU.
Yeah. Unit economics can be sketched in 3 sentences without NDAs, economic models, buzzwords and talking about coffee "passion". 6-7 number estimates at max and here we are with one hour of nonsense XD
It's funny how many times he tries to poison the well with "I've been doing this for so long" "You aren't involved in finance", etc. Definitely comes across as defensive.
The "passion" thing is an obnoxious technique. It is an underhanded way of saying Coffee is being emotional and not logical about this while the CEO sounds, on the surface, like he is being polite.
A bit early in the interview he specifically describes people that are old, vulnerable and just plain easy to trick into his con. People like this thrives in obsurity and manipulation, thanks Coffeezilla for showing this so more people learn about this types of scam. :)
Holy shit this is an hour and a half of the conversation?? I definitely don't have the attention span to listen to it all but damn that's insane. Love that you put so much info out for us to look through and I really appreciate the hard work.
What I took from all that garbage is “we can’t 10x your money rn. We don’t have the system for it. But if we over promise and enough people fall for it. Then we can 10x SOME people’s money”
limiting withdrawals always means they don't have the money. he wants to advertise 10% cashback (or whatever he called it) but doesn't have the money to pay that.
EVERY platform has churn. It doesnt matter how much people love your product or how positively it is received. So, him saying they have no churn is a huge red flag. When running a platform a certain level of churn is expected and you come up with plans to REDUCE it because you just can't eliminate it. Also, the fact thay he can't just simply explain the business model and is instead just giving this word salad taking in circles and not really giving a clear answer us another huge red flag. Coffee asks clear and concise questions that should be answerable in a clear and concise way but instead he answers with round about bs that is hard to follow.
That CEO is a terrible communicator and speaker. He really should have prepped a better marketing communications or public relations director who doesn't eat his own words speaking in the bad cadence and tones that he has. His company would have probably come off sounding a lot better by saying similar things, more clearly. He sounds like he's rushing through answers, talking ad nauseum, and not answering questions properly. This is an unfortunate circumstance of ego at the CEO level of too many companies. Maybe Coffeezilla would not have wanted to speak with someone lower on the company's totem pole, but this interview just sounded terrible and made the company's side of the discussion sound far worse than it may even be. Are they above board? Who knows? But that interview certainly did not present the company in the best light. That's why communications, sales and marketing professionals like me do what we do.
At least the CEO is talking about the system funding problem being built on sand and in theory is working on a fix. The interest return is based on a transaction tax as people use the token? Asking hard questions isn't being mean.
4:11 “we’ve created a new system. One where we have the historical data” I spit out my drink That’s literally the whole idea of a blockchain since day 1 lmao. Bro is about 10 years behind
When someone has a channel to the tune of coffeezilla, you really have limited negotiation power to demand things that are not normal for objective, investigative reporting.
The guy literally described arbitrage and swap example l never promised anything on are white paper that promises an infinite money glitch ... This is definitely going to implode
This CEO is now the undisputed king of yapping. You as a simple question and get a tidal wave of verbal diarrhea about nothing. It's honestly impressive.
Someone get this CEO into a political office, hes a natural at non-answering questions
Just like Trump
professional yapper
When you want to know if you should trust someone in a job knows what they're doing, ask them a simple question about that job.
If they keep talking until you stop them, they should not have that job or be responsible for anything important money wise for that job.
@@josephmarzullojust like all of them. They all suck.
He's another business weenie BS artist. Talks forever but says nothing.
For those of you who aren’t old enough to remember; this is real journalism. This is how it used to be for ALL public figures when they were dishonest.
Yes, before the age of giving a free handy and plugging their new book.
He didn’t want you to investigate him, he just wanted you to bring attention to his project so he can make more money 😭
idk, cause he wanted him to sign an nda so coffee woudnt of even been able to talk about it. not actually sure what this guy wanted lol
😅 bingo
Yes. He is openly saying this at 30:00. They wanted to talk with him publicly to get attention.
Nailed it. This is a tough listen for someone like me with little intrest in crypto type stuff, I'm 10min in and I think I got the gist.
I came here to say exactly this.
"Can you answer this simple question?"
"I appreciate your passion. Love that. It's so great. It's why I wanted to have a conversation with you before going on your channel."
"Let's go back to my question.."
"Of course, this passion is incredible. But you're presuming bla bla bla bla"
Holy crap this guy is a professional dodge ball player
Literally 3 minutes of waffling😂
Normalize throwing balls in interviews.
"You'll be apologizing at the end of this interview"
God i hate this man, his voice creates honest angry anxiety onside of me with his stuttering and bullshit
Nah, a pro would not be so obvious in dodging the question, they would pretend to be answering it, but without actually saying anything of substance. I've been watching a lot of political interview dissections lately 😄
y’all ever notice how passionate coffee is?
Now I do
Is he really? I never picked that up.... 😂
I have never heard of him being passionate, but you know you learn new things daily. 😅
"I love the passion."
He does not love the passion 💀
lmaoo ikr
Does it bring joy?
It’s like he asked GPT for some strategies on building rapport
Unlike Coffezilla, who is a person that I used to like, but now he's a liar and scam artist. Voidzilla is a very passionate man, and I respect that very much
"We are happy that you are talking to us, we do not steer clear from tough questions, but we believe you are rude, so we want you to apologize and never talk about us again"
😂😂😂😢😢😢😅😅😅
that was basically this whole interview in a nutshell lol
The mere fact they thought it was a good idea to come on here demonstrates poor judgement. What’s interesting is it’s genuinely difficult to assess the degree to which they are naïvely optimistic versus predatory
I just love that we reached a point where scammers are so afraid of being exposed by Coffee that they try to make him sign an NDA.
Rule #2 of investigative journalism: If the person you're trying to interview tries to legally pressure you into silence, that means you're on to something.
(Rule #1 is "Don't talk to the police.")
Best part is NDAs mean squat if they cover up a crime.
We wont lose money, because if someone tries to redeem thier rewards, we will simply say they are not using the token in good faith, and not pay them any rewards they were promised. Thats basically what i understood from this.
Because thats "game-ifying" it 😂
They said the quiet, scammy part out loud quite a bit in that interview. 😂
I love these uncut, audio-only interviews in The Void because there's certain facial expressions you make after getting an especially bullshit non-answer that are just amazing
It looks like coffeezilla is muting his mic to be able to roll his eyes 🤣
all i learned was that coffee is very passionate
I also hear he's gay according to Tate
I got lost in his first "that's an important question and I understand your concern"
This should immediately set off bs alarms for everyone
"I love the energy"
Exactly@@dunravin
That seems to be the main scammer technique. Just babble tangentially related nonsense until nobody can possibly decipher what you are talking about, then act like you explained everything.
Yeah as soon as they start doing that instead of answering the question you know they are likely about to spout bullshit.
Love when he said says “let me explain” and then proceeds to do no explaining. He’s actually really good at it cuz i slowly start losing interest in the nonsense
The gaslighting and stonewallingnare strong with this one 🙄
"Sign the NDA, Coffeezilla, so you can be complicit with our scheme' 😝
I love how you smiled when he said "love the energy". You sir are a true skeptic.
Not suspicious at all that he frequently says in some form "thanks for asking the hard questions. I love your approach"....
"When you haven't done anything wrong, there's nothing to hide"......"Please sign these legal docs limiting the scope of discussion"
I'm 15 minutes in and so far the CEO's plan to remain profitable is to just print more tokens as they need them, he views them as monopoly money with his company operating as the monopoly game board, but for the same reasons why countries that continuously 'print' money wind up with ridiculous inflation and a severe devaluation of the labor force of that country. This is the exact reason why we have regulations and a centralization of currency within most countries. The only people who benefit from a lack of regulations are the people looking to do things the regulations would otherwise prevent them from doing anyway.
Dude thought he could get rich using the Paddy's Dollars scheme lmao
Bingo. If he just came out and said "yeah it's inflationary, the token won't be worth as many miles in the future", then I could respect his honesty. But he desperately does not want to admit this. The only possibilities are default or inflation.
This guy makes me feel better about my life. It could always be worse. I could make a token
He seemed to alternate between flattery and shaming attempts, and when all of tgat failed, he just went on rambling rants where he managed to avoid answering whatever questions were asked. While I wouldn't come anywhere close to investing in whatever crap they're selling, but there is an arena that his abilities and tactics not only wouldn't be frowned upon, and would be celebrated. I'm speaking, of course, of politics, where promising all kinds of positive results, while not accomplishing, or even attempting to accomplish them, generally receives little to none negative consequences.
Journalist: *asks a question *
Ceo: "I love the passion ✨❤️"
I don't trust anyone who says they "love someones passion"
There isn't any sustainability. They don't offer anything to sell, that would make the money they need to give back to the investors. We need to teach this stuff in schools, because clearly people don't see "10x" and run like they should do.
big deal stock traders say 2% is the gold standard and what people should be striving for with getting a return.
IF a wolf of wall street is out there with their nose to the grindstone, TRYING to get 2% as a day job, plugging in 9-5 everyday.
And someone comes around, and says that you can turn a profit of x10, with no effort...RIP bozo
But "it doesn't cost [them] anything to issue rewards" lol why would they need to make money to hand money out /s
On a serious note, it's not education that's the issue, it's the way we allow bad actors to prey on vulnerable people. Regulators need to step in and put the fear of law into them. We also need to pay people sustainable, living wages so they don't need to 10x their money to do more than just survive.
@@theBestElliephant Absolutely
That’s such a good point. I’m so glad Coffee is here to educate us, but you’re right-this should be a mandatory class for high school seniors. We are far too hyper-capitalist for that to happen tho
@@Spoopball What are you talking about? 2% gold standard? For what, return on savings? The Fed is literally paying 5% interest on reserves which are base money like cash. You can buy Treasuries that pay that or simply a savings account.
In Bulgaria we have a saying - Talking too much, saying nothing.
in poland we call it "fucking shit" - pierdolisz gówno
Grandiloquence it's called.
In parts of america we call it "verbal diarrhea".
I was listening to this yesterday on X. You grilled him! it was hilarious listening to this CEO compliment you and your energy, and call you a hater in the exact same breath.
The actual answer to every question was "We'll figure it out when we get there".
Inspires my confidence for sure.
"Welcome back to the void, we're getting a little petty today..." is the best way any video can start :D
"If you really understood it..." Make me understand!
Step 1: CZ asks a question.
Step 2: Other Guy gives an insincere compliment.
Step 3: Other Guy stammers out evasive word salad.
Step 4: Other Guy plays victim.
Step 5: CZ asks same question.
Step 6: Other Guy gives an insincere compliment.
Step 7: Other Guy stammers out evasive word salad.
Step 8: Other Guy plays victim.
Step 9: CZ asks same question.
Step 10: Other Guy gives an insincere compliment.
Step 11: Other Guy stammers out evasive word salad.
Step 12: Other Guy plays victim.
Step 13: CZ asks same question.
Step 14: Other Guy gives an insincere compliment.
Step 15: Other Guy stammers out evasive word salad.
Step 16: Other Guy plays victim.
Step 17: CZ asks same question.
Step 18: Other Guy gives an insincere compliment.
Step 19: Other Guy stammers out evasive word salad.
Step 20: Other Guy plays victim.
Repeat
Mate, those compliments were too much - the first five times I figured he was just nervous, but now I think he did some "master manipulator" course that recommended disarming with compliments.
In summary"
"If you understood how it worked you wouldn't be asking such silly questions"
Coffeezilla: "Then explain to me how it works"
"I can't explain that without an NDA"
"Use laymans terms"
"Uh....Uh....uh..."
"You're making assumptions. Assumptions based on the shady information we have kind of provided and if you want to know more, you legally have to keep it a secret. Not that we're lying."
CEO: "I'm very happy" -Coffee: "Answer the damn question"
This felt like 1.5 hours of the perfect non-answers. We need to pay for this-but we actually don't, and we offer this-but you can not redeem it the way we said you could. Dude should do politics lmao.
These interviews are always too frustrating for me to listen to. Fair play to you, I don’t know how you do it.
I have the same issue. Do i want to get insanely pissed at something i have zero involvement with?
To what end? I always click off halfway through...and then it happens again. Another video getting me pissy.
By the way...i love the passion.
The CEO is really moved by Coffee's passion for asking simple questions.
That they can't answer
"Great question"
"As I said"
"I love your passion."
"And there's a reason for that"
"If you really understood it..."
"its sustainable because it doesnt cost us money to issue rewards, we just print tokens. we make money because we charge a subscription fee. its one of a kind" - actually that sounds like a pretty common scam in the crypto space
It almost sounds like he believes his own bullshit
Like Kamala fans, its laughable fantasy
@dertythegrower, how does this involve the topic at hand
@@dertythegroweryou are e the worst type of person
@@crimsonskies5611 its political psychosis, untreatable :(
@@dertythegrower What's the weather like up your own ass? Asking for posterity.
3k likes out of the 3.5k views. I think it's safe to say WE love the passion
I love how when you got to your point about how they make money he starts getting all tongue tied and nervous and starts pointing out negative situations.
he was tongue twisting and hyper talking from the beginning, not a good sign of clear conscience. From the first few sentences i knew that guy aint good.
“I love the passion.” Spoken in the most deadpan, monotonous voice I have ever heard
Why do all ceos sound the same? Jesus. The stuttering, the deflecting, the lying and sales pitching.
It's because you don't hear from CEOs that actually run an up & up business that's profitable due to actual sale of products and services. Because that CEO is actually working. If a CEO is doing PR or damage control, that company is either losing money or looking for stock value rather than concrete commercial profits.
The condescending flattery is a big red flag
I love how Coffee doesn't pull faces at some of the crazy statements and comments. "And there's a reason for that"
I was in there yesterday listening to the entire interview. It made no sense. And I felt like the CEO kept dodging all the questions
lol, he says at around 16:00, that he wants to answer all the tough questions but doesn’t want to put his company in a situation that can’t be fixed. That’s essentially an admission that you can’t explain how this model works credibly. Which, obviously, but it’s funny that he even went that far.
“We have no churn” and offer a subscription model 🚩🚩🚩. Churn doesn’t even have to come from people who don’t enjoy the platform. You’re going to have natural churn from life happening to people.
"Great question!", continues to avoid all questions.
Best content on RUclips I love how you roast scamers GG
Him and ScamSandwich 😂
They always say don’t make assumptions without knowing the facts, but refuse to explain the facts. Major red flag
the most infuriating thing about this guys voice is he probably believes his own bs
No. F*ing. Way.
A person has to be certifiably nuts to believe in that. Oh, wait a minute...
i had the impression he himself didn't quite understand how his own product is supposed to work 😂
@ there’s probably a disconnect between how he thinks it would work versus how it actually works.
Our CEO at a startup would say and do things like that and create all sorts of fires for us to put out.
YESSS another long form Coffeezilla interview. I've really missed these
I love the passion translates to why can't you say something nice
A video over an hour long?
You spoil us Coffee, thanks
I love how he pronounced 'in app features ' as 'inept features '
I am sure this CEO was a big fan of your channel before the interview.
If I drank every time he says "passion" i would be flat on the floor 😅
Plutus receive, lets say, and be optimistic:
25k$ in subscriptions per month
10k$ in visa fees and partners
=35k$ incoming money
they give users 10k PLU per month to all users
lets say it costs 6$ for them to issue the 10$ giftcards per 1 PLU
=60k$ expenses in benefits, excluding salaries, etc
Make it make sense
thats the kind of breakdown we want to see from Plutus CEO...but instead they say the benefits does not cost them anything
for each user they have 20$ incoming from subscription, but it costs them at least 60$ in benefits...
Step 1: White paper
Step 2: Fuel
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit!!!!
The CEO is attempting to bake in a value to PLU that is 'assumed', but at the same time his solution to everything seems to be 'print more PLU' He both sees PLU as having an intrinsic value and while also being equal to Chuck E Cheese tokens in monetary worth. When calculating the rewards, he's considering the PLU coming back to them in exchange for the 'reward' as profit in the form of more shares of PLU that could then be sold again. His idea isn't actually that far off from a regular stock exchange, with the glaring exception that he has the ability to 'produce' new PLU out of thin air at the expense of massively devaluing the 'value' of PLU.
Yeah. Unit economics can be sketched in 3 sentences without NDAs, economic models, buzzwords and talking about coffee "passion". 6-7 number estimates at max and here we are with one hour of nonsense XD
Did the CEO even answer a single question? These were the most non answers I've ever heard lol
It's funny how many times he tries to poison the well with "I've been doing this for so long" "You aren't involved in finance", etc. Definitely comes across as defensive.
Un’fn believable, he’s running circles around himself! 😂😂😂
1 hour of voidzilla exposing frauds is what i need this morning while doing chores
I should be cutting my grass! Lol
@ throw some headphones on!
The "passion" thing is an obnoxious technique. It is an underhanded way of saying Coffee is being emotional and not logical about this while the CEO sounds, on the surface, like he is being polite.
He used to be a fan of Coffeezilla...
Not after this interview🤣
A bit early in the interview he specifically describes people that are old, vulnerable and just plain easy to trick into his con. People like this thrives in obsurity and manipulation, thanks Coffeezilla for showing this so more people learn about this types of scam. :)
Wow, that guy is hard to listen to. Thanks for doing the hard work Coffee.
Best RUclips video I’ve watched in like months. Coffee’s great composure leads to some of the funniest responses from these types of people.
I'm glad that this CEO appreciates coffees concern
Holy shit this is an hour and a half of the conversation?? I definitely don't have the attention span to listen to it all but damn that's insane. Love that you put so much info out for us to look through and I really appreciate the hard work.
Jesus Christ, three minutes into that conversation and I'm ready to pay that CEO to stop talking.
What I took from all that garbage is “we can’t 10x your money rn. We don’t have the system for it. But if we over promise and enough people fall for it. Then we can 10x SOME people’s money”
CEO Continuously admits the product he sells has no value. . .
limiting withdrawals always means they don't have the money. he wants to advertise 10% cashback (or whatever he called it) but doesn't have the money to pay that.
No way, that's crazy, you must have watched the video or something.
Void and Coffee exposing crypto CEOs
EVERY platform has churn. It doesnt matter how much people love your product or how positively it is received. So, him saying they have no churn is a huge red flag. When running a platform a certain level of churn is expected and you come up with plans to REDUCE it because you just can't eliminate it.
Also, the fact thay he can't just simply explain the business model and is instead just giving this word salad taking in circles and not really giving a clear answer us another huge red flag.
Coffee asks clear and concise questions that should be answerable in a clear and concise way but instead he answers with round about bs that is hard to follow.
That CEO is a terrible communicator and speaker. He really should have prepped a better marketing communications or public relations director who doesn't eat his own words speaking in the bad cadence and tones that he has. His company would have probably come off sounding a lot better by saying similar things, more clearly. He sounds like he's rushing through answers, talking ad nauseum, and not answering questions properly. This is an unfortunate circumstance of ego at the CEO level of too many companies. Maybe Coffeezilla would not have wanted to speak with someone lower on the company's totem pole, but this interview just sounded terrible and made the company's side of the discussion sound far worse than it may even be. Are they above board? Who knows? But that interview certainly did not present the company in the best light. That's why communications, sales and marketing professionals like me do what we do.
He deployed the tactic of thanking you so much for asking the questions and having him on as a guest a LOT
"You're not wrong with your concern."
CEO gets it.
This has to be one of the most baffling 90 minute interviews I’ve ever listened to. I almost prefer Ted just threatening us
This gave me a headache, great video Stephen! (unironically though this was some good content but god was it infuriating at times)
Reminds me of the SBF "I understand where you are coming from, but"
Wow these scammers really do all sound the same
"Explain how you make money"
"We rebuilt the platform after making it unsustainable"
At least the CEO is talking about the system funding problem being built on sand and in theory is working on a fix. The interest return is based on a transaction tax as people use the token? Asking hard questions isn't being mean.
Can't wait for this guy to announce firefest 2026
The way they keep begging you to be nice is genuinely so pathetic
I am on 1.25x speed and this guy is driving me nuts.
4:11 “we’ve created a new system. One where we have the historical data” I spit out my drink
That’s literally the whole idea of a blockchain since day 1 lmao. Bro is about 10 years behind
When someone has a channel to the tune of coffeezilla, you really have limited negotiation power to demand things that are not normal for objective, investigative reporting.
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Love mine too!
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10% return?! Yes "trust-me-bro"🤣🤣
Let me talk long enough to hope the audience's retention isnt long enough to follow the conversation
The main thing I got out of this is that CoffeeZilla consistently asks great questions.
It almost sounds like he believes his own bullshit
psychopaths
First time seeing this Coffevilla guy. He has so much passion! I love it!
"Your acting more like a troll than a journalist" What he meant to say was "Why can't we pay you off or trick you into an NDA like other journalists?"
This CEO is the kind of guy who shakes your hand just so he can steal your watch. So basically he's your standard corporate executive.
The guy literally described arbitrage and swap example l never promised anything on are white paper that promises an infinite money glitch ... This is definitely going to implode
This CEO is now the undisputed king of yapping.
You as a simple question and get a tidal wave of verbal diarrhea about nothing. It's honestly impressive.
Plu is just the 1st round, 2nd round is Nder you get all the returns.
Coffee: How do you make money?
CEO: Great question! Have you ever had a dream where you... you would... you have... you could.... you would...
😂
Seems like the tangible value is going to be the friends we made along the way