you're correct. these people probably never sat down with a punk anyway. i hang with punks, got to punk shows, and trust me, it's point is to be DIRECT, not subtle
Why don't they have someone who was actually there to tell the story, then we would have the truth. I went into Viv and Malcolm's shop, it was a real breath of fresh air.
It was a pleasure making clothes to go out to Punk shows, but l think Goths are in the same ballpark. Both take bits from high fashion and everyday ware to create an outfit that is unique! The Met show looked very important for my generation. Thanks for the video.
Artists (designers) are artists and nothing else. They borrow/steal elements from their environment and make it something theirs. Whether is be Punk, Grunge or whatever they don't care as long as it fits their vision/direction. It is a totally different message they are trying to send. Peace!
The name of the seminal New York City club was CBGB, not CBGB's. Very interesting analysis and exhibition, though once the punk aesthetic became commodified, it ceased to be punk. I guess the same could be said of all DIY streetwear influences on fashion.
This exhibit was punk stereotypes. Punk was the rebellion of commerical culture. They did what they wanted and said fuck you to anyone who tried to do shit like this. This is exactly was punk is not.
It might not be what you wanted it to be when you were a naive idealistic teenager nearly 50 years ago but it certainly is now...Stop living in the past.
He said, politics, economy and poverty, Jesus, y you watch the video. It's not that hard to determine why is a movement opulent or deprived, if you went to school that is.
punk is literally about anti consumerism and diy tho, my friends and i have always cut our own hair, done our own piercings and tattoos. i would even say that if youre in the scene and tell someone you got your mohawk done at a hairdresser theyd laugh at you. Its not what it used to be but i surely isnt about buying ripped jeans at h&m
The concept is okay, but the way he talks about it seems way too overanalysed and I don't think Punk was meant to be overanalysed . Like no if a shirt says fuck off, it really means 'fuck off'. Lol well I mean that's just my opinion.
Melanie, dont you think that, considering what this culture means to the people in it, that doing something like this is a little exploitive? and in that light, a bit immoral ?
Movements are systems and systems kill. Movements are expressions of the public will. Punk became a movement cuz we all felt lost, But the leaders sold out and now we all pay the cost. Punk narcissism was social napalm, Steve Jones started doing real harm. Preaching revolution, anarchy and change As he sucked from the system that had given him his name.
You had to be pretty brave to look like that un 1977. That's what I loved about it. We hated Hippies and the huge stadium bands..and then there was disco. I went right for the Punk scene. I even got to help Jon Holmstrim paste up Pu nk Magazine..
throughout the decades of the existence of punk in its many forms,the look like the music has always been about subversion especially in the seventies, which the designer seems to be pretty hung up on. its a shame to see something ive felt so passionately for so long displayed this way. i wish he had spent some more time with real punks before bringing this theme to such a massive public forum.
It wasn't about recycling...it was being poor and anti rich using what was available to express your style and frustration. I love high fashion, but hate when high fashion designers try to do punk, it ruins it and makes zero sense.
The safety pins came to be because it's more affordable to pin your clothes together instead of buying something new. Also, wearing ripped jeans. They forgot to mention the reason why punk doesn't die because it was born from anger from the unfairness of being near or under the poverty line
Well I'm tired of staring through shit stained glass, Tired of staring up a superstars arse, I've got an arse and crap and a name, I'm just waiting for my fifteen minutes fame. Steve Jones you're napalm, If you're so pretty (vacant) why do you swarm? Patti Smith you're napalm, You write with your hand but it's Rimbaud's arm.
I remember going to see this. It was a really interesting exhibit. I didn't realise how much Punk influenced fashion. Great exhibit.
Punk being "Fashion" is the antithesis of what Punk is to begin with.
Nonsense.
you're correct. these people probably never sat down with a punk anyway. i hang with punks, got to punk shows, and trust me, it's point is to be DIRECT, not subtle
Why don't they have someone who was actually there to tell the story, then we would have the truth. I went into Viv and Malcolm's shop, it was a real breath of fresh air.
It was a pleasure making clothes to go out to Punk shows, but l think Goths are in the same ballpark. Both take bits from high fashion and everyday ware to create an outfit that is unique! The Met show looked very important for my generation. Thanks for the video.
Artists (designers) are artists and nothing else. They borrow/steal elements from their environment and make it something theirs. Whether is be Punk, Grunge or whatever they don't care as long as it fits their vision/direction. It is a totally different message they are trying to send. Peace!
Thats B.S. It's ALL the same thing: CASH FOR COOL. and not an ounce less !
The name of the seminal New York City club was CBGB, not CBGB's.
Very interesting analysis and exhibition, though once the punk aesthetic became commodified, it ceased to be punk. I guess the same could be said of all DIY streetwear influences on fashion.
This exhibit was punk stereotypes. Punk was the rebellion of commerical culture. They did what they wanted and said fuck you to anyone who tried to do shit like this. This is exactly was punk is not.
This is exactly what punk is not: institutionalizing and putting a big nice bow on it.
It might not be what you wanted it to be when you were a naive idealistic teenager nearly 50 years ago but it certainly is now...Stop living in the past.
there never be another designer like galliano for dior
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Very interesting video. Though I feel like there needs to be more emphasis on why punk "fashion" was what it was.
He said, politics, economy and poverty, Jesus, y you watch the video. It's not that hard to determine why is a movement opulent or deprived, if you went to school that is.
For the record, I never met a single 'punk' who cut their own hair. Punks had a style that made the movement individual.
punk is literally about anti consumerism and diy tho, my friends and i have always cut our own hair, done our own piercings and tattoos. i would even say that if youre in the scene and tell someone you got your mohawk done at a hairdresser theyd laugh at you. Its not what it used to be but i surely isnt about buying ripped jeans at h&m
@@anonym7505 Yeah, on reflection. There are the 'real punks' like yourself who do it their own way for sure."Live and let live" I say!
That was fascinating. Thank you 😊
I forgot about those Statement Tee shirts..oh there was a band called the Shirts, Student Teachers, Cramps..they all looked great!!
The concept is okay, but the way he talks about it seems way too overanalysed and I don't think Punk was meant to be overanalysed . Like no if a shirt says fuck off, it really means 'fuck off'. Lol well I mean that's just my opinion.
Melanie, dont you think that, considering what this culture means to the people in it, that doing something like this is a little exploitive? and in that light, a bit immoral ?
PUNK una de las mejores exposiciones que vi relacionadas a la alta costura, arte y música
Movements are systems and systems kill.
Movements are expressions of the public will.
Punk became a movement cuz we all felt lost,
But the leaders sold out and now we all pay the cost.
Punk narcissism was social napalm,
Steve Jones started doing real harm.
Preaching revolution, anarchy and change
As he sucked from the system that had given him his name.
Wow... Nice!
You had to be pretty brave to look like that un 1977. That's what I loved about it. We hated Hippies and the huge stadium bands..and then there was disco. I went right for the Punk scene. I even got to help Jon Holmstrim paste up Pu nk Magazine..
William Coupon photographed alot of my old friends at Mudd..lots of fashion on those portraits..
I thought this was Andrew Bolton’s weakest exhibition. Everything else blew me away.
What collection are the D&G ballgowns from at 7:30
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throughout the decades of the existence of punk in its many forms,the look like the music has always been about subversion especially in the seventies, which the designer seems to be pretty hung up on. its a shame to see something ive felt so passionately for so long displayed this way. i wish he had spent some more time with real punks before bringing this theme to such a massive public forum.
Yes! Thats why it was really great that the person two comments away wrote out a whole CRASS song.
It wasn't about recycling...it was being poor and anti rich using what was available to express your style and frustration. I love high fashion, but hate when high fashion designers try to do punk, it ruins it and makes zero sense.
I see a lot of Siouxsie Sioux in here
The safety pins came to be because it's more affordable to pin your clothes together instead of buying something new. Also, wearing ripped jeans. They forgot to mention the reason why punk doesn't die because it was born from anger from the unfairness of being near or under the poverty line
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I hate the wigs all being the same, hair was such an important part this doesn't give it the credit deserved
having punk n tribe element topic for my project graduate (2011) was something never meet common audience... nowadays its call gypsy-punk
At 6:10 he's saying a word brickalage?
"bricolage" actually.... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bricolage
Well I'm tired of staring through shit stained glass,
Tired of staring up a superstars arse,
I've got an arse and crap and a name,
I'm just waiting for my fifteen minutes fame.
Steve Jones you're napalm,
If you're so pretty (vacant) why do you swarm?
Patti Smith you're napalm,
You write with your hand but it's Rimbaud's arm.
BoB Harris..🗣️❔ 👴⬜😙🎶📝 🌠🏃
Please , what are you saying louder, all your video need work on can understand what you saying,what a waist of time.