There’s no heir to the empire without Luke, and even Leia to some extent to explain the problems of the New Republic. This movie is an opportunity to even improve the sequels a bit by making them more cohesive, like the clone wars series did to the prequels.
Luke will very much have a presence like Vader had in Rogue One… He will be absent from all the trailers, teaser’s & Tv spot’s but he will appear at the most important time in the context of the film…..in my opinion Dave Filoni & Jon Favereau are trying to re create Battle of Jakku where instead of Gallius Rax , the defeat of Thrawn will force the Remnants to the unknown regions & to Exogel to create the First Order.
The easiest way to explain Luke's behavior in the trilogies would have been to introduce Mara Jade as his wife and fellow teacher at the new Jedi school. If she were slain along with the others by Kylo Ren's guys, it would explain why Luke sequestered himself from the universe.
You don't think seeing all of his students slain, his nephew turn to the dark side (whom his beloved sister had entrusted him to raise and train), realization of his failure to recreate the Jedi order as instructed by his masters, feeling the weight of failing the galaxy by not living up to the legend of Luke Skywalker (and actively having a hand in putting the galaxy in danger), etc. is enough to drive him into exile? It has to be the loss of a woman that pushes him over the edge?
Thrawn will also be a villain as he was originally. Some fans will be angry because they're attached to the Vong/Grysk angle but even then Thrawn sold his soul to save his people so...
Buggin for wanting recast. Luke looked GREAT in book of boba fett and harrison fords de-aging looked great in indiana jones too, and that wouldnt have the budget of Star Wars as well as technology advancing more in the 4-5 years separating the movies
im sure we can find more star wars that we can make legends. and then go on as it never happened. and yes plz give us heir to the empire. id love to see that.
I'd say Thrawn aside, it's technically impossible for FIloni to make an accurate rendition of the original Thrawn books. After all, those stories have a very outdated perception of the Clone Wars by today's standards.
The clone wars wasn't all that pivotal to those stories and its never outright said what they were minus Pellaeon mentioning fighting clones once. The Katanna Fleet just needs to be full of Temuera Morrison
With Filoni and Favreau, they could easily focus on everything before the rise of the first order and have Thrawn try to bring down the new republic as the big bad before the first order rises. Here’s to hoping Filoni and Favreau use the world between worlds to establish that the sequels are a different timeline/dimension and establish a new timeline focusing on Luke, Mara Jade, etc.
You gotta watch star wars rebels bro he’s a beast in that. Rebels and clone wars is necessary to get the full scope of the other characters in mandalorian as well as heir to the empire
Read the book , Heir to the Empire is absolutely brilliant we really do not need a movie. The entire Zahn/Thrawn trilogy is brilliant. Read the books and use your imagination and you won’t be disappointed .
Aren't the Imperial remnants under the command of Grand Admiral Sloane by this point? It's weird how she's been virtually ignored by the franchise despite being pivotal to the creation of the First Order.
Ezra will replace luke since Ezra was the one to defeat him in the first place. Though Luke did not lead to thrawns defeat. Most likely Rae Sloane from the aftermath books will be why thrawn is brough down. Mark is really just wanting to pass the torch in star wars. Harrison ford wants nothing to star wars he was done after six.
So what was the point of throwing out the books if were essentially doing the books only not as great. This is lukes story not Ashokas. Heir to an empire without Mara Jade is criminal.
Heir to the Empire is a villain centered story kind of like the Joker movie. You read it to see how crafty villains gain the upper hand and pull off outlandish feats for shock value. Zahn actually was going to call the book Wildcard. Unfortunately you need heroes that you care about for this to work and Disney has done a number on the OT ones.
We already have NEW heroes! We don't need the OT! We have Din Djarin, his Mandalorian allies, Ahsoka and the Ghost crew (the ones who are alive, that is), plus numerous random characters who might ally with them once they see how BIG a threat Thrawn is!
As long as they don't pull a Rogue one where they took Kyle Katarns story and got rid of Kyle Katarn and Jan Ors and replaced them with Cassian Andor and Jyn Erso. If they replace Mara Jade with Sabrine Wren it's going to be a tragic day for the EU fans.
Filoni et al have pulled from Legends before and will doubtless continue to do so, but anyone who is thinking the upcoming film will be an adaptation of the Thrawn trilogy is just setting themselves up for disappointment.
The once chance to get the sequels truly right has come and gone. And since they are making another Rey Palpatine sequel, they're not even willing to let go of the shitty timeline they made. There's no fitting a satisfying version of Heir to the Empire into that. At this point there's no salvaging Star Wars, except for maybe scrapping everything, and doing something really radical to start from scratch in a decade or two, with completely new people in charge.
The answer is noooo what’s going on it Lord Vader father coming king plagues wise behide everything not palpatine by cloneing himself over over kylo ren grandfather coming Rey Ben skywalker family vs grandfather king plagues wise goo to him u find answers u asking it Lord Vader father coming
Nope. Thrawn's return will be almost a decade after Return of the Jedi and two decades before Rise of Skywalker. Palpatine would be in a tube on Exegol.
What is the point of watching the Dave Feloni movie if you haven't watched all the garbage Star Wars tv shows? You won't know what is going on. It will probably be a Diseny+ movie.
Dave Filoni said during an interview at Star Wars celebration that fans wouldn't need to watch the shows to know what's happening in the movie. That's one of the challenges they're keeping in mind when making this movie.
I'd say Thrawn aside, it's technically impossible for FIloni to make an accurate rendition of the original Thrawn books. After all, those stories have a very outdated perception of the Clone Wars by today's standards.
So basically, the actual sequels we needed
Maybe?
Needed*
FR
There’s no heir to the empire without Luke, and even Leia to some extent to explain the problems of the New Republic. This movie is an opportunity to even improve the sequels a bit by making them more cohesive, like the clone wars series did to the prequels.
Exactly lol
They definitely needa hire a leia and luke actor
Technology is only getting better since we have young luke in mandalorian
What is going to happen is that you switch out the OG 3 and replace them with Mando, Ahsoka and the Rebels
Luke,han,chewie and lando could appear in it, leia, that would be a different story...
Luke and Ahsoka would be so cool. They're both essentially Anakin's kids
Well Ahsoka is more like anakin sister
Luke yes, Ashoka no. Thats not in the novel or the movies
Luke will very much have a presence like Vader had in Rogue One… He will be absent from all the trailers, teaser’s & Tv spot’s but he will appear at the most important time in the context of the film…..in my opinion Dave Filoni & Jon Favereau are trying to re create Battle of Jakku where instead of Gallius Rax , the defeat of Thrawn will force the Remnants to the unknown regions & to Exogel to create the First Order.
The easiest way to explain Luke's behavior in the trilogies would have been to introduce Mara Jade as his wife and fellow teacher at the new Jedi school. If she were slain along with the others by Kylo Ren's guys, it would explain why Luke sequestered himself from the universe.
You don't think seeing all of his students slain, his nephew turn to the dark side (whom his beloved sister had entrusted him to raise and train), realization of his failure to recreate the Jedi order as instructed by his masters, feeling the weight of failing the galaxy by not living up to the legend of Luke Skywalker (and actively having a hand in putting the galaxy in danger), etc. is enough to drive him into exile? It has to be the loss of a woman that pushes him over the edge?
Of course it’s an heir to the empire movie, he’s been building this up since clone wars.
Heir to the Empire is Luke's story. To adapt the novel in film form and not utilize its main protagonist would be an injustice.
He will definitely be in the forefront, just with an ensemble cast of mandalorian, grogu, ahsoka, & ezra bridger
A Star Wars legends movie would be way better than the sequel trilogy if done right.
Agreed!
No it wouldn't. There's way more dumb stuff in the legends canon
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@@Zoggwogg hopefully we get to see Luke’s clone Luuke 🤣
@@Zoggwogg DIsney NPC's are hilarious
Thrawn will also be a villain as he was originally.
Some fans will be angry because they're attached to the Vong/Grysk angle but even then Thrawn sold his soul to save his people so...
The real question is, more CGI Luke, Han and Leia, or new actors
Rather they recast tbh
Buggin for wanting recast. Luke looked GREAT in book of boba fett and harrison fords de-aging looked great in indiana jones too, and that wouldnt have the budget of Star Wars as well as technology advancing more in the 4-5 years separating the movies
Leia will be recast
Rather they leave the story alone they've ruined enough .
Recast would save so much money
Im so thrilled to hear they are making the real sequel! How can they not have at least Luke and Mara Jade show up? Also give us some bothans!!!
I’m hoping if they make a heir to the empire movie that Mara Jade will show up on the big screen
There's no heir without the OT characters. They were pivotal in the thrawn trilogy
The OT characters will definitely be in the movie
Hope Mara Jade will appear someday.
Yes , instead of Ashoka or the new disney "heroines"
im sure we can find more star wars that we can make legends. and then go on as it never happened. and yes plz give us heir to the empire. id love to see that.
Please please please make an heir to the empire. And give us Mara Jade!
Image Ashoka with deaged Han definitely get some OT cameos.
When is The Old Republic gonna get some attention?
they acknowleged the old republic in star wars celebration
Never, outside of of some obscure references
I'd say Thrawn aside, it's technically impossible for FIloni to make an accurate rendition of the original Thrawn books. After all, those stories have a very outdated perception of the Clone Wars by today's standards.
The clone wars wasn't all that pivotal to those stories and its never outright said what they were minus Pellaeon mentioning fighting clones once. The Katanna Fleet just needs to be full of Temuera Morrison
With Filoni and Favreau, they could easily focus on everything before the rise of the first order and have Thrawn try to bring down the new republic as the big bad before the first order rises.
Here’s to hoping Filoni and Favreau use the world between worlds to establish that the sequels are a different timeline/dimension and establish a new timeline focusing on Luke, Mara Jade, etc.
This is long overdue.
Finally ign understands the bigger picture
Heir to the empire also contained the first appearance of Coruscant, which of course Lucas himself would go on to use in the prequels...
This character better be worth the hype.
watch rebels my dude, read the novels or the comics, he is the goat
You gotta watch star wars rebels bro he’s a beast in that. Rebels and clone wars is necessary to get the full scope of the other characters in mandalorian as well as heir to the empire
nothing can be known for sure at the moment, but let us hope so
Dave should be in charge of everything star wars
give Dave filoni a trilogy
But not with Star Wars. Go direct a Barbie in space movie
Will this be Theatrical release or Disney +??? Doesn’t really matter to me just curious.
How much de-aged Luke could you have in one movie?
Filoni saved disney era star wars
A film of thrawn????
Why not a TRILOGY
Nope. Just one movie
Read the book , Heir to the Empire is absolutely brilliant we really do not need a movie. The entire Zahn/Thrawn trilogy is brilliant. Read the books and use your imagination and you won’t be disappointed .
Aren't the Imperial remnants under the command of Grand Admiral Sloane by this point? It's weird how she's been virtually ignored by the franchise despite being pivotal to the creation of the First Order.
This would take place before because it’s the new republic and they fought Sloan on while they
Ezra will replace luke since Ezra was the one to defeat him in the first place. Though Luke did not lead to thrawns defeat. Most likely Rae Sloane from the aftermath books will be why thrawn is brough down. Mark is really just wanting to pass the torch in star wars. Harrison ford wants nothing to star wars he was done after six.
It's quite obvious he is...
Pretty clear with tease to Ezra that the next movie will be about him
That would be cool
Sebastian Stan as Luke Skywalker. This is the Way.
No it's just a phrase that was used in the trailer.
But it highlights people's continuing Hunt for continuity.
What about Leia and Han?
This trilogy should not be made by disney, it is probably the greatest story after episode 4, 5 and 6. Disney will ruin it.
Smoothbrain take. Cope and seethe incel.
How you wait until the movie comes out, THEN only can you decide it's "ruined"? Rogu One was great, mind you!
So what was the point of throwing out the books if were essentially doing the books only not as great.
This is lukes story not Ashokas.
Heir to an empire without Mara Jade is criminal.
Heir to the Empire is a villain centered story kind of like the Joker movie. You read it to see how crafty villains gain the upper hand and pull off outlandish feats for shock value. Zahn actually was going to call the book Wildcard. Unfortunately you need heroes that you care about for this to work and Disney has done a number on the OT ones.
We already have NEW heroes! We don't need the OT! We have Din Djarin, his Mandalorian allies, Ahsoka and the Ghost crew (the ones who are alive, that is), plus numerous random characters who might ally with them once they see how BIG a threat Thrawn is!
As long as they don't pull a Rogue one where they took Kyle Katarns story and got rid of Kyle Katarn and Jan Ors and replaced them with Cassian Andor and Jyn Erso. If they replace Mara Jade with Sabrine Wren it's going to be a tragic day for the EU fans.
Only if we're throwing away the sequel trilogy. Can we throw away the sequel trilogy? Please?
Disney: NO!
Yes. Please. And all the Disney series. Only The 3 original movies and the firt 3 novels by Timothy Zahn.
@@hipidipi20157max OMG YES PLEASE
Really interesting
100% heir of the empire, no doubt!
Filoni et al have pulled from Legends before and will doubtless continue to do so, but anyone who is thinking the upcoming film will be an adaptation of the Thrawn trilogy is just setting themselves up for disappointment.
Star Wars great movie
The answer is YES
The once chance to get the sequels truly right has come and gone. And since they are making another Rey Palpatine sequel, they're not even willing to let go of the shitty timeline they made. There's no fitting a satisfying version of Heir to the Empire into that. At this point there's no salvaging Star Wars, except for maybe scrapping everything, and doing something really radical to start from scratch in a decade or two, with completely new people in charge.
There a few changes to tttthe original Heir to the emprie like if you seen rebels the character of rukh is dead.
Tbf it’d be funny if they just dump the sequels and make this rage sequel
Filoni needs to make the most recent trilogy non-canon and start over post defeat of Vader. Fire Kathleen Kennedy! Viva Doomcock!
Disney/Kathleen: NO!
People seem to forget that Star Wars was the Skywalker story.
After episode 9
I don't blame them
Thrawn is returning
STAR WARS: Episode X: Heir to the Empire
No, this is the real Episode VII
Rebels >>
Darth bane movie
they were right lmao
I F'in hope not Filoni is a hack, just like all disney writers. All he can do is horribly adapt stories better writers wrote.
The answer is noooo what’s going on it Lord Vader father coming king plagues wise behide everything not palpatine by cloneing himself over over kylo ren grandfather coming Rey Ben skywalker family vs grandfather king plagues wise goo to him u find answers u asking it Lord Vader father coming
Thrawn!
Folks, editors are a thinhg.
The phrase is "It's hard to OVERSTATE the influence..."
He said he was , how is this even a question IGN
So Palpatine will be villain again since this is before sequel trilogy and would love to see Ian Mcdamin play role One Last Time
Heir to the Empire is a book. Palpatine wasn't in it. If this is based on it, Palpatine probably won't have anything to do with it
Nope. Thrawn's return will be almost a decade after Return of the Jedi and two decades before Rise of Skywalker. Palpatine would be in a tube on Exegol.
Nope, it's Thrawn! They already said so!
@@santar5006 yes, the old guy is currently in Exegol trying to find a way to come back from the dead!
Please dont disney youve ruined thrawn enough . How many more times do you have to kill our friend that freind being star wars .
Tell ninja theory to make video games 🎮 for gaming they're cool
As long as Kathleen Kennedy is at the helm, there's nothing to get excited about
Then don't watch it if you are unhappy because of Kennedy! You have a choice not to watch it
Disney ruined Star wars
Not all!! Just some...
Now it's their own job to fix it
Anakin > Luke
Most likely not
heir to the empire but lets replace luke with women because men bad XD
Ninja theory video games 🎮 are cool
What is the point of watching the Dave Feloni movie if you haven't watched all the garbage Star Wars tv shows? You won't know what is going on. It will probably be a Diseny+ movie.
Dave Filoni said during an interview at Star Wars celebration that fans wouldn't need to watch the shows to know what's happening in the movie. That's one of the challenges they're keeping in mind when making this movie.
No, the animated Star wars shows are not "garbage" but GREAT! it even fleshes out the Prequels!
Maybe a spinoff, since Luke has been replaced with Asokah. Cause yah know, the force is female
Luke has literally been in the Mandalorian. You act like two legends can’t coexist.
@@ryanjohnson3392 as a cgi fan service...ain't no way in gods green Earth KK will let Luke become the hero, let alone be in a movie...
Cope and seethe, magatard incel
@@saturnlight7985 what proof have you?
No, the Force is gender neutral! It is by ALL living things, make or female!
We don't care about Marvel or star wars anymore
I'd say Thrawn aside, it's technically impossible for FIloni to make an accurate rendition of the original Thrawn books. After all, those stories have a very outdated perception of the Clone Wars by today's standards.