I wish blender would work on making a serious competitor to the adobe suite. Seriously, the Blender suite would be a perfect name for it and they have the infrastructure to actually fund a serious effort in this regard.
gimp needs to copy blender and how they do their development and community management. blender is the prime example of how to make an open source software mega successful. gimp needs to listen to the community and not argue and pretend that they know better and users are not always wrong and update their website and focus on interacting with the community. photoshop is more popular than max and maya combined yet no one uses gimp because unless you philosophically wanna stick to FOSS, it's just a bad software on many levels. LIKE SERIOUSLY, TRY EVEN DONATING TO GIMP AND THEY CAN'T EVEN MAKE THAT PROCESS SIMPLE.
@@MrGamelover23 they don't need to, they should keep the focus on their main 3d software and not get distracted by more apps. they tried that and half-assed everything and then later they had to remove their game engine and now they are doing the same with their video editor as well. instead of blender, gimp devs need to copy and follow what blender is doing if wanna see the success blender has seen.
A tangential but critical issue is how apps are spotlighted. Every so often I'll hear of forks of GIMP or other smaller projects. Now, I don't know if these projects are actually any better than GIMP, but I know that as someone with little need for an image editing software I know of GIMP (& Blender, LibreOffice, etc.) because it's of the "standard" apps that distros pre-install or recommend, and it's the main one people talk about (whether in disdain or defense). Through various happenstance, certain apps become ubiquitous and there doesn't seem to be a good way to find and evaluate alternatives collectively. It's an ironic instance of how the decentralized nature of FOSS can allow for some kinds of centralization.
@@LV4EVR Canva is known for selling its software exclusively on a subscription model ... this will also be the future of Affinity in this company ... it's all about the money
Good video! I've been running a video production and graphic design company on these tools for years and used them more in television for years. They're great!
I am a semi-professional photographer (earn some money from it) and Darktable these days does almost everything I need. I don't do much photo manipulation (except for some cloning / healing / skin smoothing etc) so I rarely need a "pixel editor". So, like you said, whether your needs are met depends a lot on the use case.
I absolutely love RawTherapee! It is not a full image manipulator, but it is a good raw/photo editor, closer to what people had access in analog photo era (except for region-aware tools, like smudging)
Yeah - and when you're done with the raw processing, you can export to GIMP if you need more control or do advanced masking. I've never tried lightroom, but the statement that "rawtherapee" is not ready for professional work puzzles me.
Thank you for making this. I've purchased two capture one licenses and of course spent hundreds on adobe subscriptions, but I have changed to doing such light edits that I am not scared of leaving it all behind and trying these out on linux. A lot of what I thought tied me to Windows and Mac is an illusion. Lots of smoke and mirrors of AI masking and bloated software. And even when you close the software it's always running some widget in the background, those relentless creative cloud processes never stop running behind the scenes.
Darktable can be a lot coming from Lightroom but I've gotten at least basic functionality out of it. Maybe I'll give Rawtherapee a shot. GIMP is still very difficult for me coming from a photoshop background but my buddy who had no real background in PS has picked up GIMP pretty quick. Good video!
I have noticed even on Windows a few photography youtubers are switching to Darktable, or other alternatives just because they are sick of Adobe's nonsense.
А я-то думал куда Павел Урлапов делся, а он видосы на английском пилит про линукс. Сам давно пытался вкатиться в тему, в итоге всё-таки нашёл для себя вариант Arch + Hyprland. Видосы классные, смотрю с первых видео на русском)
While I will always be grateful for how Krita helped me develop my skills, working with it against its intended purpose made a lot of things difficult. Especially when it comes to working with files in different apps, the exporting of my 8K footage as PNG takes forever and I had to manually resize the image and repeat the process over and over. Also the RAW format of my new Sony camera is not being recognized, so after a lot of frustration I eventually landed on the Affinity suite. Here, everything works and is wrapped into a cohesive UI and lots of quality of life features that aid my workflow immensely. I still love Krita, no doubt an amazing project however, I realized it's not the first tool for what I personally need. And for a 50% discount on Affinity on Black Friday I managed to get back to the familiar Photoshop workflow I once knew without pirating or tying myself to the Adobe ecosystem. :)
This is the one thing keeping me from going to linux....i do an awful lot of photography and i need something as good as lightroom classic easily accessible
Darktable. It's way better than LR. it has a learning curve, sure, but there are several good in-depth channels on YT and also a prettu good documentation page.
I work with Photoshop, Illustrator etc., I don't want alternatives! All of my life work is on those programs! At the same time I want to use Linux and forget about Windows, but how TF to do that?!
There's also Affinity Photo ;) I run it through Wine and whlie the performance is not exactly stellar, it's a one time payment and serves it's purpose pretty well.
Don't you need a windows licence just to get the meta data for that? If not, and the process can be automated through some terminal scripts, consider me interested. Otherwise I'm done feeding the corporate software licensing oppressor; Microsoft. I rather hope they wither with Adobe.
@@Simon2d3dwell ...thank God the internet exists and a simple Google search can get you what you want xD. That or installing windows on a VM without keys
i have used gimp for a long time and have not bothered to try anything else since. i mostly use it for pixel art including minecraft textures, memes, photos, and icons. i admit there are definitely some bad parts about gimp but for my purposes it is not so bad once you know how to use it.
Darkroom looks complicated but some professionals even prefer it over lightroom. It is incredibly powerful and the algorithms are scientifically well made. Take a weekend to learn it and never look back.
Your videos look soo good! You have a clear artistic style, and it looks so much better than the neutral tone that other RUclips videos have. People with uncalibrated monitors be missin' out
It's pretty good. ElementalWarrior's wine fork was built to run affinity products and theres plenty of guides out there to run them. My only real issue with running it on Linux atm is it takes a couple tries to fully boot up (usually crashing at loading fonts.)
I get where you're coming from, the reality though is that this is a little bit poorly timed with Gimp 3 being released any day and may, possibly boast improvements on some of the limitations youve mentioned.
Linux is my system so my photos might not be as good as professionals with photoshop but I don't care. Darktable is OK. I think my Camera using my picture styles makes good jpg photos. I shoot RAW + JPG in case I do need to edit something. GIMP helps with scaling images.
darktable, raw therapee, gimp. raw therapee could need a bit of workover thou. the whole affinity pack for linux would be ace. and a reason for updating too. i wont go v2 with win11 goin that shitty route. no way
To save people 8 minutes: It's trash to middling, and no, nothing you mention here will be "as good as [x]." Run Affinity apps in a VM. Like and subscribe (to RA, to be clear).
I wish the community would come together and start seriously funding alternatives like what happened with blender.
I wish blender would work on making a serious competitor to the adobe suite. Seriously, the Blender suite would be a perfect name for it and they have the infrastructure to actually fund a serious effort in this regard.
gimp needs to copy blender and how they do their development and community management. blender is the prime example of how to make an open source software mega successful. gimp needs to listen to the community and not argue and pretend that they know better and users are not always wrong and update their website and focus on interacting with the community. photoshop is more popular than max and maya combined yet no one uses gimp because unless you philosophically wanna stick to FOSS, it's just a bad software on many levels. LIKE SERIOUSLY, TRY EVEN DONATING TO GIMP AND THEY CAN'T EVEN MAKE THAT PROCESS SIMPLE.
@@MrGamelover23 they don't need to, they should keep the focus on their main 3d software and not get distracted by more apps. they tried that and half-assed everything and then later they had to remove their game engine and now they are doing the same with their video editor as well. instead of blender, gimp devs need to copy and follow what blender is doing if wanna see the success blender has seen.
@@rano12321 Wait, they're getting rid of the video editor? Shame, but then again, who actually used it?
A tangential but critical issue is how apps are spotlighted. Every so often I'll hear of forks of GIMP or other smaller projects.
Now, I don't know if these projects are actually any better than GIMP, but I know that as someone with little need for an image editing software I know of GIMP (& Blender, LibreOffice, etc.) because it's of the "standard" apps that distros pre-install or recommend, and it's the main one people talk about (whether in disdain or defense). Through various happenstance, certain apps become ubiquitous and there doesn't seem to be a good way to find and evaluate alternatives collectively.
It's an ironic instance of how the decentralized nature of FOSS can allow for some kinds of centralization.
Honestly as someone using mostly Linux Krita is fine with 95% of what you would want to do with an image editing software.
If Affinity ever comes to Linux, *_many_* of us will leave Windows for good.
after the sale, it is more likely to become a subscription model like Photoshop
@@silvioklemm3769 Unlikely. They realize how they got where they are, hence the *_very_* public and bold pledges made about that.
@@LV4EVR Canva is known for selling its software exclusively on a subscription model ... this will also be the future of Affinity in this company ... it's all about the money
There's a way but it involves a fair bit of tinkering - ruclips.net/video/lZva02Wex3g/видео.html
@@SparxNet Thanks. Saw that. Lots of work, and I'd want to verify the modified packages too.
Good video! I've been running a video production and graphic design company on these tools for years and used them more in television for years. They're great!
I am a semi-professional photographer (earn some money from it) and Darktable these days does almost everything I need. I don't do much photo manipulation (except for some cloning / healing / skin smoothing etc) so I rarely need a "pixel editor". So, like you said, whether your needs are met depends a lot on the use case.
+ 1
I absolutely love RawTherapee! It is not a full image manipulator, but it is a good raw/photo editor, closer to what people had access in analog photo era (except for region-aware tools, like smudging)
I have to give it a shot!
Yeah - and when you're done with the raw processing, you can export to GIMP if you need more control or do advanced masking.
I've never tried lightroom, but the statement that "rawtherapee" is not ready for professional work puzzles me.
Thank you for making this. I've purchased two capture one licenses and of course spent hundreds on adobe subscriptions, but I have changed to doing such light edits that I am not scared of leaving it all behind and trying these out on linux. A lot of what I thought tied me to Windows and Mac is an illusion. Lots of smoke and mirrors of AI masking and bloated software. And even when you close the software it's always running some widget in the background, those relentless creative cloud processes never stop running behind the scenes.
Gönn Dir.
Thank you for your support!
didn't know he's german lol
Adobe's goal is to use AI to take the creator out of the corporate marketing pipeline. That's why they have been using your images to train their AI.
Thanks!
Darktable can be a lot coming from Lightroom but I've gotten at least basic functionality out of it. Maybe I'll give Rawtherapee a shot. GIMP is still very difficult for me coming from a photoshop background but my buddy who had no real background in PS has picked up GIMP pretty quick. Good video!
Krita is usable as well
I have noticed even on Windows a few photography youtubers are switching to Darktable, or other alternatives just because they are sick of Adobe's nonsense.
А я-то думал куда Павел Урлапов делся, а он видосы на английском пилит про линукс. Сам давно пытался вкатиться в тему, в итоге всё-таки нашёл для себя вариант Arch + Hyprland. Видосы классные, смотрю с первых видео на русском)
While I will always be grateful for how Krita helped me develop my skills, working with it against its intended purpose made a lot of things difficult. Especially when it comes to working with files in different apps, the exporting of my 8K footage as PNG takes forever and I had to manually resize the image and repeat the process over and over. Also the RAW format of my new Sony camera is not being recognized, so after a lot of frustration I eventually landed on the Affinity suite. Here, everything works and is wrapped into a cohesive UI and lots of quality of life features that aid my workflow immensely.
I still love Krita, no doubt an amazing project however, I realized it's not the first tool for what I personally need. And for a 50% discount on Affinity on Black Friday I managed to get back to the familiar Photoshop workflow I once knew without pirating or tying myself to the Adobe ecosystem. :)
This is the one thing keeping me from going to linux....i do an awful lot of photography and i need something as good as lightroom classic easily accessible
Darktable. It's way better than LR. it has a learning curve, sure, but there are several good in-depth channels on YT and also a prettu good documentation page.
GIMP. That's The State of Photo Editing on Linux in 2024.
GIMP 3 is gonna be a big shake up and put GIMP up there with the other titans
i’ve found RawTherapee good for editing RAW photos
I work with Photoshop, Illustrator etc., I don't want alternatives! All of my life work is on those programs! At the same time I want to use Linux and forget about Windows, but how TF to do that?!
Krita's "Smart Patch" tool is the same as PS's Healing Brush. Wonderful video, thanks.
Great video as always - most underrated channel.
You're not a photographer, but your videos have the perfect composition. This is the most pro edited Linux channel in the world.
There's also Affinity Photo ;) I run it through Wine and whlie the performance is not exactly stellar, it's a one time payment and serves it's purpose pretty well.
Don't you need a windows licence just to get the meta data for that?
If not, and the process can be automated through some terminal scripts, consider me interested.
Otherwise I'm done feeding the corporate software licensing oppressor; Microsoft.
I rather hope they wither with Adobe.
@@Simon2d3dwell ...thank God the internet exists and a simple Google search can get you what you want xD. That or installing windows on a VM without keys
Thanks for making these videos ❤
i have used gimp for a long time and have not bothered to try anything else since. i mostly use it for pixel art including minecraft textures, memes, photos, and icons.
i admit there are definitely some bad parts about gimp but for my purposes it is not so bad once you know how to use it.
Why no one knows about photopea
photopea is great!
True, but I hate that it's a web application. Just annoying to use on a constant basis
@@PremierPrep there is a flatpack version
Photopea is great as a web app but we need something like this to be an app for Linux
@@emdotrod There is a Flatpak available on Flathub. But I've never tried it and being a web app, I have no idea if it would work offiline.
the lack of true replacement for lightroom is honestly the last reason for me why i havent switched to linux full time
Darkroom looks complicated but some professionals even prefer it over lightroom. It is incredibly powerful and the algorithms are scientifically well made. Take a weekend to learn it and never look back.
How about considering Corel Aftershot Pro 3? This is available for Linux, but of course is not free or open source.
Your videos look soo good! You have a clear artistic style, and it looks so much better than the neutral tone that other RUclips videos have. People with uncalibrated monitors be missin' out
As a fellow Linux user who wanted to make similar RUclips videos, would you like to share how to set up your gears and software?
really hope darktable can get an update to retouch the UI and UX in the future!
Great video. Can I ask you what's your distro? Also, do you post on the fediverse?
Thanks! I use Arch btw (tm) and nope, I don't post on Fediverse yet.
I've heard of people running affinity photo on linux even though it's not officially supported.
It's pretty good. ElementalWarrior's wine fork was built to run affinity products and theres plenty of guides out there to run them. My only real issue with running it on Linux atm is it takes a couple tries to fully boot up (usually crashing at loading fonts.)
Попал сюда по блату, останусь для души!
I get where you're coming from, the reality though is that this is a little bit poorly timed with Gimp 3 being released any day and may, possibly boast improvements on some of the limitations youve mentioned.
Linux is my system so my photos might not be as good as professionals with photoshop but I don't care. Darktable is OK. I think my Camera using my picture styles makes good jpg photos. I shoot RAW + JPG in case I do need to edit something. GIMP helps with scaling images.
I agree, the UI of darktable is overwhelming
if you have problems with darktable,you should try Ansel,a fork of darktable,made by A.P .
darktable, raw therapee, gimp. raw therapee could need a bit of workover thou. the whole affinity pack for linux would be ace. and a reason for updating too. i wont go v2 with win11 goin that shitty route. no way
Printer color calibration in Linux is a real pain in the ass.
f*ck, im 10s late
Just so ya'll know - I'm using Linux.
Hail RA
To save people 8 minutes: It's trash to middling, and no, nothing you mention here will be "as good as [x]." Run Affinity apps in a VM. Like and subscribe (to RA, to be clear).
Adobe products should be public domain and run on my fridge.
dude, stop making videos, your not helping linux at all... go away!
are you mental?
How , he is giving critical info.
Nice try, Adobe.