This HUGE Controversy NEEDS to stop
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- Опубликовано: 25 апр 2024
- This huge hate controversy needs to stop.
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As someone who has no rated levels but loves creating this video is so real. I love creating but I'm really not that good at all. Instead of being mad and jealous of people who are successful, I get inspired by them, learn things from them, and wanna be like them. These hate comments really trigger me because no one who puts time and effort into making good levels deserve it.
Same lol.
Same!1!1!
same
Geometry Dash players trying not to start a controversy every 2 seconds:
Real-
its tiring, too much drama content about a jumping cube game just made me quit
Hahahha real😂😂
Breaking up with your girlfriend, thats hard. beating an extreme demon, thats insanely hard. Trying not to start a controversy every 2 seconds, *crumples up paper* *throws paper* that’s impossible.
IMPOSSIBLE
A very relatable video I must admit.
I remember when I got my second rate and there was a lot of hate in the comments. I asked in the comments what exactly was wrong with the level, but I got disliked and I was told never to build anything again.
After my first epic level, I was very motivated to build more, but I wanted to do something very simple this time. After this level got a feature, people said that I wasn't trying, that I made a boring level.
When 2.2 came out, hope and motivation returned a bit and I tried making a platform level. I really liked it and was proud of it, but my expectations were greatly disappointed because it didn't get what I wanted, and people in the comments immediately started insulting my level and me.
Now, I don't really know what I'm doing and how to do it. I'm trying to muster the motivation to do anything.
Wish me luck.
Don't even pay attention to those players, they could still be children who don't know what to write xd
I would like to know what your levels are to play them, although the platform level if it has a rate I would probably already complete it.
But that's it, just pay attention to the negative and positive reviews and ignore the comments like "don't create again"
These are still comments from people you don't know so if I were you I would laugh without saying anything to them, don't let it affect you because it's stupid
Remember, those people live in their moms basement and their parents don’t give them enough attention, so all they do is comment on levels because they are jealous.
Just ignore the comments and have fun. That's the most important part. The only thing that really matters is that you are satisfied with the level and that you built something you're proud of.
@@molturcain6053I'm sorry you had to deal with that. What's your username! I'd love to try your levels! I'm sure they're great but what matters the most is the effort you put into it and that you love what you do!
Getting a feature and epic, man you should be proud! Robtop recognized it himself!
A lot of those comments are probably just spoiled little kids that are grumpy and jealous of your amazing ability that just don't understand the process and never will. It's honestly so toxic so heck with those guys!
@@AfbVR yeah kind of true
people are really not even trying to hide their envy. it's so stupid.
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I agree 100% percent with the comment part. I got so much hate on my recent epic lvl and most of people in comments don't make constructive comments
I see how this is going, there seems to be no way to satisfy all the people
what's your gd
@@shotzfiredgamingd Robotronx
@@robotronxgd131 can you friend me please? my user is shotzfiredgamin.
@@robotronxgd131 is that a no?
You totally forgot a very important point: Branding.
When you make a lot of levels in a certsin style, they will look so similar that the players will easily recognize you for your creating style, you can also see split and dubstep as examples of this.
The problem lies when people try to force you to make something original when you start doing the same style, but when you do your own recognizable style and make a LOT of levels using it, the same people that begged for you to make something original will hate on you for creating the same thing over and over again.
Its so frustrating to see comments like that when creators have their OWN style and therefore they have the right to milk whatever they want. I saw it on split, then croco, then yun, and the list goes on and on.
And also, that "mod bias" and people complaining about unknown creators getting harder standards is pure bs. My rated level has decorations that are copied 1-1 from youtune tutorials. Yes, almost all of the deco, bg and air deco was made from tutorials, but i still got a rate, even when a mod sent it for feature hours before. So yeah, that is pretty much debunked since forever.
Well, here goes my wall text. Great video btw!!!
This is so true, never thought of originality and creator styles in this way. Thank you for commenting :)
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I've always hated how a lot of these players that do this assume amount of quality = amount of effort. Seriously people need to stop crapping on levels that aren't literally perfect to them. It often isn't people that have created at all, they are just spoilt royally (never having a reality check).
Will also say that this jealousy people are having is probably gonna get worse, since rated levels are constantly getting more rare to achieve and therefore more artificially valued. I gotta be honest, it was a terrible idea to lock an achievement behind it. I imagine this would have been way less of a problem (by a ton). It's not just young people that get jealous enough to do this, it's just "Most of the GD community + valued thing = people jealous for that thing"
Granted Rob could let elder mods help as well (with rates, since I assume he trusts them enough) to lower the value of a rate and therefore the jealousy. Rob could also make some sort of disclaimer regarding hate comments BUT that could cause it to become worse if people take it the wrong way. It's not the best situation but what is? Doubt it'll ever get better naturally, it's practically ruining itself.
I see this situation the same way, people think of creators as people who just create for creator points and know it will get rated cuz rob knows them more, but it's not true, they create because it's actually really fun, if they had no reason to, their levels would simply not look good because they have no reason to create other than the thought of creator points in mind, the 4 levels I have made were all for fun and I enjoyed making them so much, even if none of my levels I ever post get rated, I'm just happy because it was a way of expressing my self and I had and will have a lot of fun creating.
my first 2 levels both got rated within a day of their first send and believe it or not i lost a few friends over it for this exact reason.
Damn
what the fuck, this is just so douchy.. sorry buit those werent friends from begin on.. as i got my first rate all of my friends who played gd were really happy about it.
Dude, I completely agree. I dont make levels too much, but I love creating. It infuriates me so much seeing people hating levels for seemingly no reason when the creators are just trying to enjoy the game. The negativity that people spread to some creators is so unnecessary. We are all trying to enjoy the game in our own way so there is no need for those people to feel hate or jealousy towards them. Creators put time into their levels and it's a shame people ignore their efforts and spread hate towards them. We should all focus on the quality of the level and not how much creator points they have. Great video, Ausk I really enjoyed it.
Oh my god
I did not expect this at all. Thank you so much for commenting!
Thank you for this video. As a creator and a player I can agree that hating for no bigger reason doesn't help either side. It's just a game after all.
My number one creating rule is : if you don’t have fun building a level, don’t push yourself too hard, maybe try another day when you get the motivation back.
I'm still surprised that How To Adventure got quite a beautiful amount of love and good criticism (which has led to some level updates which improved it) when it got featured (I honestly expected rob to just rate it but both feature and second place on the first page for almost an entire day for my first ever rated level in the almost 10 years of me playing this game was so awesome), but yeah, it's also been pretty full of some useless hate comments, and one I straight up removed which hoped I'll end up becoming "another Advy" this isn't a joke btw this was an actual comment on the level at one point. Not taking it seriously of course lol but how does one publish that horrible of a comment without thinking twice?
something interesting i noticed with my two rated levels is that the second one got way more criticism than the first, almost as if people expected to perfect my creating skills after getting creator points. that is simply just not how it works lol, seriously improving at creating will take more than one or two levels
i also agree with this, people don't leave any constructive criticism when i post a level and just hate on it sometimes. i don't let it get to me though since i love creating so i liked how you described this whole controversy thing. you've earned my sub and like, keep up the great work man :)
I must admit that when i got my first creator points i've had the feeling of making people not enjoy my level cause maybe for their gameplay, their decorations, and i felt so bad at the time, and this happened for hate comments, then some friends helped me to go throught with it. But still, even some comments can hurt someone's feelings, they are still words and words could hurt even more than weapons.
I also want to thank you for making this video explaining the situation
GD comment sections are just twitter without a minimum age at this point
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Really good points, I agree with what you talked about here :D
I always like to leave a comment on things I enjoy, whether it's GD levels, music, videos I watched, etc., and whenever the person who made it is open for feedback, pointing out what I like while also tactfully stating what could be improved is how I'd approach it ^^
Thank you for the comment. Love the points you made! :)
@@auskgd 🦊💖
i feel like i cant make anything without seeing what other people make and becoming demotivated immediately anymore
Your a real one for this, ive noticed this issue too and it really has killed my joy in creating myself... it just felt like it has been becoming worse and worse.
Yo! Awesome video Ausk! Everything you touched on was very well explained. Hope more people start to change even if it's just a little. Keep up the great work!
I hope so too! Appreciate it man :)
I absolutely agree with your statements. Well said ausk! People should create what they want to create. If you are going to criticize someone for not creating something good, then you just look stupid and are just jealous.
When my level got rated I got comments saying I should die in a fire or kms 😔 I deleted those comments cuz I really felt bad. And it really affected me on the way I touch the editor even tho I didn’t make anything wrong
I feel like 90% of those comments are made by people who spent 20 hours to get 7 likes on a good level (but not like a masterpiece) and then get frustrated and leave their frustration on creators that get rates with level made in like 6 hours and they are jelous of them...
0:47 subwoofer lullaby😮
Seeing Bridget make really cool levels like “Fun Shapes” and “bStep” in such a short amount of time is part of what got me back into creating. It made me wonder if I could possibly make a rate worthy level within the span of a month or maybe even a week. The levels I ended up making took WAY longer than that, but that didn’t really matter since I was now able to finish levels for the first time since 2.0.
What Bridget was able to do in her time creating for this game is genuinely so impressive, and it was so weird seeing people hating on her for it instead of being inspired.
I went through this being a layout maker. It was something that affected me a lot because envy was literally surrounding me from all sides, even with the team I should trust. I suffered a lot of bullying and unpleasant comments just because of the style of layouts and the songs I chose. Even leaking my levels to higher creators and showing me what everyone thinks that my levels are trash without me asking about it. This messed with my head so much that I simply don't have any fun playing GD anymore. The only thing I really do now is watch.
Sad to hear. Hope you feel better
Not to be the hater, but I don't have a problem with simple levels getting rated. I have a problem with buggy and unoptimized pieces of trash that are poorly built, janky, have hz issues, gameplay that only works half the time, all for it to get rated 3 fewer stars than it should. As a stargrinder, I want rated levels to be based on decoration and gameplay. Just because a level is pretty doesn't mean it's rate worthy.
Just a month ago I played an 7 star after it was rated and there was a LITERAL SECRET WAY within the first 20%. It's clear that unplaytested levels are being sent when if the mods just read the comments and saw over 50 people saying "secret way" they'd know something was up.
As I do understand your point of view, it's also important to aknowlege that not all people who writes those types of comments are jealous. Sometimes, it's just the fact that level qualities are disintegrating, not only in deco, but also in terms of gameplay. Some levels are filled with untested parts and questionable gameplay, even transitions, that comments saying that it's bad are factually right. The way that it could be expressed may be rude depending on the comments, but not all of them are.
It totally agree that creators are allowed to create what they want, but if a levels is low effort in terms of GP and deco and expect at least a rating, then they should expect those types of comments in which, a lot of them are being factual. Death threats or direct bullying, those are a big no and should be those types of comments that should be focused instead, but comments commenting on how bad the gameplay, deco, transitions, etc. shouldn't be deemed as people being jealous, envious, etc. If the creator really doesn't want those types of comments, then RobTop should add in a future update a way to enable/disable comments, similar to how a lot of media platforms have.
I agree with every point you made. I'm working on a level myself and I know damn well its not gonna be great, but I'm having my fun and trying my best. Great vid👍
The thing I don't understand I's when you have levels that's been sent multiple times and still doesn't get rated after like 5 sends or more. Ofc you are gonna get jealous when you see levels worse than yours that get rated after just 1 send :/
Seeing these lazy levels honestly discourages making levels with effort,,,
Like why make a great level with so much effort on a level when youre gonna get a feature just like split does with a minimal modern level?? Its just irrtitating
If you're doing levels solely for a desired rating or praise this is gonna be your thought process. Unless you learn to build for fun you will not succeed at it and will keep comparing yourself like you did in this comment. To answer your question on why to make a great level: to have enjoyment in the process and be proud of the result. And if it's great enough, it could even get the extra cool rating :)
@auskgd I mean sure, creating for the enjoyment but we all know how much of a task it can be to make a full level with effort ...
No matter how much you enjoy creating its still kind of a chore to decorate and put the effects and everything in just to see another guy "cp grinding" doing really low effort to get the same result as you its just not fair man
That's why you can't compare cp grinding and stargrinding, all stargrinders put the same effort to beating a 5* with the same result but no 2 creators put the same effort to making a level just to get the same result
I get what you're saying, but this proves the point I made in the video. Your frustration with the rating system or with the lack of rates you get is based on someone else getting rates easily - and this frustration should not be taken out on Split or any creator whatsoever. It does not make any sense to throw shade on someone just because they get something you want with less effort. Also, you are incorrect about everyone putting the same effort to beat a 5*. Just like for creators, when you are a more experienced player you can easily beat a 5* level with 1 single attempt. For newer players, it takes a lot more. Should the newer players hate the more experienced ones just because they get what they want more easily? No. Likewise, creators should try and work on - as i mentioned in the video - improving "what they can" improve regarding rates - as in putting the effort to get sends and feedback from moderators. We all went through this. We also know the rate system can be quite luck based when you're starting out, and I've been there, but eventually anyone can do it if they keep trying. Practically no one gets their first rates quickly. My first few rates took months each, and I had many levels in between, which never got rated.
@@auskgd True it's not the creator's fault they're simply adhering to the system given to them. It's Robtop's fault for blindly waving the rights of any other newer creator discouraging them from creating by having no system to reward their creations. This is why we see so many people who are just "farming creator points". It just takes away the fun in general of creating if someone who has already been creating has those connections to a mod and can just send the level to them. This brings in the issue of the inherent bias from sends. Regardless of who's creating, the levels should be equally managed... but they aren't, and a rate all stems from how Robtop feels that day, or whether he even gets on and rates. It doesn't have to be this way and there are much better examples of better systems, like in OSU, and I'm sure Rob is aware of this. The only reason he hasn't changed the system is so he can still claim to be "a part of the community". But soon he is going to have to face reality, and that reality is one person simply cannot adhere to the desires of 20,000-plus people. Which will force him to make a change. Either he's going to have to give away some of his power and allow elder mods to rate as well because at this point a send is useless unless you have creator points, or he'll have to create a new system.
I completely agree, you should improve on what you can do its basically a no brainer, and sure stargrinding is different between newer and more experienced players I kinda forgot about that since 5* have gotten so easy for me :p
Also I don't think that you should hate anyone, not split or any other creator but you can't lie about how frustrating it is to see some really low effort level get the same treatment as yours that you need to talk about it,,
There are some (honestly stupid) factors that come into play when getting a rate like having to have already made some levels beforehand so you become recognised (ik this is not the case sometimes but it is a lot of the time) or the rng factor like when the level was sent, how many sends came after the level, does robtop feel like it,,, bla bla bla all of which you have 0 control of,,, but most of the time the cp grinders don't have to go follow these rules
I just think that if a level looks good enough it should get rated, not by how popular or lucky you are
this is so true and I've felt this way for years but nobody ever seemed to recognize this huge problem until today, levels don't need to look or play amazing to mean someone spent their time to make something without anything in return except other peoples enjoyment, being negative and hateful can ultimately lead to demotivation. I'm not saying you have to like every level you play and there are some levels I'm not the biggest fan of but I don't spam people with hate over something they spent time on. when playing levels people seem to act like their words have no influence on people's opinions and I'm not saying we will ever be able to get rid of hate entirely but the amount of hate on some levels by people who creator point grind is dumb. This is also a huge problem in gauntlets despite not liking a level you don't have to act like it was the best level ever made just don't be a total jerk. another issue is lots of the time people look past the good things of a level and just focus on the bad things, comments should not be just hate ever and here's what I mean, when commenting at least say one good thing about a level so the creator doesn't feel too bad and also if you're gonna state something that should be improved describe why and be nice about it, what I mean is try to avoid saying things like "bad gameplay" or "boring decoration" instead say something like "Deco is very cool and the song choice is great, the gameplay is fun but felt unbalanced to me mostly at the ship parts, overall still a good level" so they don't feel bad on what they spent their hard work on and know what can be improved. a creator nobody talks about is ChaSe who gets a lot of hate for his gauntlet levels mainly the gameplay, I don't understand why people hate the gameplay but I always find the ChaSe levels to be really fun and just a pleasure to play, I'm not saying you have to agree with me however try to be nice to the poor guy who spends MONTHS on levels just to get an unreasonable amount of hate. you can address problems in comments while still saying what's good about the level and being nice instead of saying the creator sucks. overall I'm just tired of seeing all the hate of people being awful to other creators and this will never 100% stop but I'm hoping the hate towards creators becomes less as time passes.
this is so long lol.
As an unnoticed creator I could understand that people don’t like low effort levels. Not everything that is high quality is high effort. As someone who can create realistic stuff i don’t put high effort inside of it unless im learning. So people don’t understand what is high effort or low effort for each creator. A average glow level does require effort. A average modern level doesn’t require much effort if you’re good with art and animations. But it’s hard and people put effort. I only been playing for 2 or 3 years and I understand what levels are considered low or high effort is for a creator on their own level. Compared to a player.
The gd community is so childish man, literally half of my comments complimenting levels gets disliked by these kids that either dont like people with a lot of cp or simply are trash at the game, its so weird
even with this video, it's hard to change peoples minds on stuff they don't agree on, or don't like, just like this topic. i agree with every point you made, but it doesn't change the fact that there are, and will always be toxic people.
It's enough to me when my NA level somehow got a difficult face
A couple of days ago, I wrote a comment on a new Extreme Demon that released saying that during practice, I found the gameplay unfun, repetitive and hard to read, yet the decoration was amazing and I got downvoted to hell. That might not be constructive criticism (not sure how that could become constructive), but people just don't seem to like opinions in this game, regardless of how nice you are being about it
Thank you so much for bringing this up. I see creators getting undeserved hate like this all the time and it makes me feel pretty awful for the creator. I really hope this can change at some point. I haven't seen such common negativity like this in comment sections in quite a while. While it still happens all the time, it's been extremely excessive in 2.2. It tends to ruin the experience of the game for me because the community just feels so much less happy than it used to.
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one thing I wanna bring up in addition to the video is folks need to also have more *constructive* criticism for levels, maybe politely explaining certain flaws with the creator’s approach and how to fix/improve them, instead of blaming the creator for a rating that isn’t determined by them! just as important as making sure you aren’t jealous of other people’s success!
nice video ausk
i remember one time when i posted a joke level, a hate comment appeard, the level was like a year old, and the player even blocked me lmao, i wasnt that offended, hell, i was laughing, then another hate commented showed up and also blocked me, strange it happened twice
I got an epic rated level six months ago and spent over 100 hours building it. The top comment was thankfully a constructive criticism comment, but most of the other top comments were hate comments such as “Why do people make such bad gameplay.” Kinda unfortunate that people were only focusing on the unsightreadable gameplay rather than appreciating the level for my talent in art.
You have good points but personally I don't mind what the creators make I think its amazing that they enjoy making them my issue is normally that the standards for big creators seem to be dropped as amazing levels from unknown creators that robtop sees wont get rated but a level from yunhaseu14 would get rated although being of much lower quality. I just feel that a lot of people are frustrated by their hard work being put to higher standards. Not condoning the people just giving unwarranted hate or saying that the big creators don't deserve their levels rated I just think there is a disparity in the standards that frustrate smaller creators.
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you didn't have to flex on us like that lol
Not to hate at all (we're all allowed to have our own respective opinions) for me personally I just don't like the fact these low effort levels get rated, it kinda puts smaller creators into a weird gap where they will most likely not get their stuff recognised for being not detailed enough, where these big creators (like split72) get their levels mass sent and most likely rated just because they're a known creator. From a gameplay standpoint I personally feel demotivated to play the game when I see less and less people put in effort to their work since it becomes a part of seeing a number go up (cp) instead of making something enjoyable for others. However at the end of the day people are allowed to make what they find fun, it's just my personal view on it.
tbh i dont think if those levels are "low effort" opening editor to create a level that can get star rate even is a lot of effort imo , maybe level style is low detailed but thats still a lot of effort to bulid something with similiar quality through out the entire level with i can see in all those star rated and featured levels
The people who don’t like cp grinding aren’t true creators themselves. Heck, people that just say “bad terrible delete this” and stuff like that, they’re DEFINITELY not true creators. True creators at least attempt to take 30 seconds to point out some flaws (or they don’t point out flaws for the sake of being nice), even if they don’t have time to come up with ideas.
Honestly, I've had the same feeling of jealousy when playing levels, but I don't go out of my way to make hate comments just because they got rated. Just keep it inside and move on. Sometimes, I do have to make criticism, but I also make it constructive because I get it when I receive plain old hate comments. It sucks and it makes the creating process more longer than it should've been, maybe even stopping it all together. Constructive criticism is goated, underrated, and actually helpful for creators.
thanks for making this video, it made me reflect on my behaviour in regarding gd level creation, i was being really hateful at levels not realizing how harsh i was actually being. i will no longer be hating on levels because they're "bad", instead i will either suggest some improvements or just not say anything and leave.
i am also realizing that if something i make isnt of amazing quality then it stays in the drafts, which is reduces my enjoyment of creating. don't get wrong i still like creating and all, but often times i dont really like what im creating. those are issues i have to solve with myself, but thank you for making me reconsider.
one issue i have is that at the intro you deadnamed bridget, and i think you should've re-recorded the intro, it wouldn't have taken that long i assume, right? i adknowledge that you put a text correcting yourself, but at that point why not rerecord?
i'll give the benefit of the doubt and assume you couldn't rerecord because... well shit happens, lack of time or other things, however i would've still muted the audio where you deadnamed her.
not acussing you of anything just wanted to point out how this could've been solved
Thank you for commenting! I'm really glad the video made you change your mind about this. Regarding the username thing I was used to calling Bridget as Braden cause I've known them for a while (not in a personal level, just as knowing them as another creator) and after the username change I just didn't keep up. Once it was pointed out I added the text in the editing to correct it. I actually didn't (and still don't exactly) know what deadnaming is until a friend pointed it out to me during the editing process since English isn't my main language. It was just an honest username mix since I hadn't kept up with it. Also I should probably mention that although it looks like I'm looking at their profile while I say the username, the voice recording and video footage were recorded separately, so I didn't have any visual reference to remember there was a new username. Sorry for the confusion!
people should be allowed to create what they want but there is a certain extra level of responsibility that they should take if they are going to go for a rate and have the entire community play it, which a lot of people don't because sadly all they care about is the creator points
Yeah, levels like the ones Split72 makes have some glaring issues, like the lack of air deco. They are just a CP grinder.
Ausk trying not to spit facts challenge (impossible)
I’ve been messaging some of these creators to saying something like this “hey people hate you for no reason I like your level good job” I like these levels they work for hours on their levels and as well they try something new. Don’t get why people have gotten so negative in these months.
been waiting for such a vid for a long time. reading such harrassing comments on my levels somehow affected on my usual building process. only a few weeks ago things started to get better. sadly, the only thing creators can do is ingoring those kind of douchebags.
I completely agree,im currently whiting a video on that topic and i aslo think we have a lot of elitism in the gd creative scene.
Edit : and you should see a video by a guy named rootbeer on that topic named "yes is matter then a level gets rated"
been seeing this a lot lately, glad you made a video about it
I appreciate this video a lot. As someone who enjoys making more simple styled levels, I absolutely agree with you. Thank you for making this!
Oh i've seen you a lot in the awarded tab. You went from being a star grinder to a creator I noticed
I highly recommend not reading comments at all because 90% of the hate comes from 10 year old kids who only makes wave challenge levels
I get what you mean but for some reason I cannot hold me back from checking my comments and I don't know why but that's just me.
if you want to say hate to other creators just think twice most of these creators are better then you.
edit:im talking to the hate comments. just to clarify.
not really tho. many people are amazing creators with not a single star rate. then there are ppl with 4cp thinking they are gods. even tho the no star rate guy is better.
@@Salzt In some scenarios
@Salzt lmao the 1-4 cp ufo guy with a God complex in the comment sections giving completely unhelpful advice/hate is literally the funniest thing ever
This Video Makes A Very Good Point, Why Can’t People Just Let People Have Fun Building?
P.S. I Know This Is Off Topic, But Does Anyone Know How To Make Objects Appear In The Background, I can’t find a tutorial for it
Wdym by object in background?
You just darken the object, would that help?
Thank you, I could never figure out all the triggers, like copy Colour and blending :D
P.S. @@ChizDecoded_GD Sometimes I Play Levels Where It Looks Like There Is A 3D Effect & It looks like there objects in the background
As a new creator, creating is sort of a mix of a hobby and a job. I set goals, which is job-like, but I won’t *force* myself to work. I mean, that’s partially since I can’t force myself to do much of anything if it’s so very time consuming, but you know. 2:15
I agree, in my last level, which actually appears in the video for a few seconds lol, there are only negative and negative comments, like that it is the worst rated level of the week, that it is horrible, that its levels are better. ..etc. Then I see the levels of the people who comment that and they are pure challenges, so I get more encouraged despite the hate lol
It’s basically like saying “this level sucks” without seeing the level
Nobody Talking About 'How To Platformer Was AN INSANE DEMON WHEN ITS 5 HOURS LONG!!!!
Rob is fr drunk
@@AfbVR rob doesn't decide the specific difficulty of demons.
@@gdplayer60 nvm the community is on something
You explain this perfectly, it took me a while to find my style yet when I did, I realized that not a lot of people find it necessarily “good”…. But that doesn’t stop me because I really do like creating in this specific style, and I won’t let anything stop me! Good video man! :D
Finally someone says something about this.
I really think this is the biggest issue overlooked in the community. Thank you, Ausk. GD should be fun and stress-free. Not another source of potential depression and hate.
It’s a game, guys. Last I checked, it’s not about the rate. How would *you* like it if you swapped places with the person you’re hating on?
A mod straight up said "This level Sucks" on Calypso Blitz, and its one of the top comments....
I dont know if he was joking or not but thats not okay
W moderator calypso blitz is disgusting
(But seriously he’s joking 100% and should not be taken seriously)
@@Raaaptorgd I know he's joking. And no, Calypso Blitz does not suck. U suck
I feel like the legendary and mythic ratings have made it even worse. Since leg/myth levels are a lot less common to find, people compare levels and say things like "If this doesn't get mythic and the towerverse does, im deleting my yt channel", which is just insulting the s out of other creators. The gd comment section INFURIATES ME so I better stop writing before i stab someone
Im working on a level called "Lucky bloom" Im working on a spider part and i dont know what to do for the air deco. Please reply by helping me
air deco could be anything really. maybe clouds?
Hard to say if I do not know what the level looks like
10:07 Gamer 734 is a real person how dare you lol. Jokes aside very good video I hope it does speak to people who dont understand this game is a game and not a career
I think the problem lies in how many of these "generic star grinder" levels exist in the game.
As a person who enjoys playing levels, I look for uniqueness in levels and mostly these kinds of levels are found in with creators, who put weeks months or years into their works. So if I go into the feature tab in search for fun levels, I wont go and play for example a Split level, because I know I wont be satisfied with his style. This is fine, because I know the style and genre Split is going for. So I can avoid those levels. The problem is when less known publish those levels. I play them without knowing what I'm going into and will be bored by the looks and have a bad experience.
So I think the problem lies in the dislike in the genre of levels most cp grinders promote in most of their levels. So I think, which could fix this, is a information of the genre on the level. This way people can choose if they want to play a genrric, modern, core or something entirely else like a experimental level.
I kinda mention this in the video; no one is obligated to enjoy every style, but also no one is obligated to change how they build. The easiest way to fix this is to simply skip the level.
It would be cool if you could chose if your level is a glow level, modern level, art level etc before uploading it but most levels are not even serious levels like challenges so perhaps not.
this guy would be a great therapist
Wait really? I actually love studying a bit of psychology!!! I don't think I'd follow it professionally since I love working with art, but it's a topic that really interests me. I appreciate the kind words :D
Yeah of course!!
You're speaking of this like you forget that, contrarly than you, the age of the gd community still is very low. This type of comments is only made by 11 year olds seeking attention through trying to get buzz, whether its bad or good. This hate movement will go by waves, sometimes (like right now) very present, sometimes less, especially since very high quality levels are now published, but it will never stop (and i'd say will tend to increase).
While you are correct about most players being young, many of these comments are made by older people, including some I showed in the video. You can usually kinda tell when someone is 11 in comments, and for the majority, these comments are not made by 11-year-olds. These will never fully stop indeed, but if I can make 1 person think about their actions and change their mind or motivate 1 creator to keep going regardless of the hate, then I'm happy with the result.
@@auskgd yo ausk I can't lie this is wrong when alot of ppl were younger (including myself) they were alot more literate than how ppl expect them to be in their age, it's just young young kids or just kids who aren't too bright for their age leaving the blatantly young comments.
the content of the comments does reveal the age though, I will say that you are partly right as a good amount are older players but if we're being real large majority are actually kids (p.s. I was one of these kids 5 yrs ago)
@@auskgd honestly, i learnt not to care about hateful comments. if thats sheer hate, i just report the user and block them
As a person with 200+ hours in the editor with no rate, I feel this
9 years of gd. spent 60hrs+ on a single level and many more. more than 5 sends on that one level still no rate. im sorry but wtf
@@Salzt fr, i have 2 levels each with 50 hours on them, one of them has 4 sends but rob went to get the milk
Good luck!
I think that people take to seriously getting a star rate, My personal goal was to make featured worthy levels that were creative and different and I think that I acomplished that in my first rated level, it was amazing. So if your goal is to get a star rated levels hating on others isn't going to make it happen
4:05 yeah... Its safe to assume that people will criticize a more unpolished product with less time put into it than a level where the creator put a lot of time and effort into perfecting the decoration and experience. Sure, the extremely brutal and unhelpful hate comments are not ok, but isnt this a common sense cause and effect situation?
If you are having fun making a level as fast as possible, instead of making the experience fun and polished for everyone, some people arent going to like it.
Split72 for example has had a lot of praise for gameplay, because they either improved or polished the experience. Most of the time from what ive seen, Split72 levels are criticized on the decoration instead of the gameplay. Theres a valid reason for it, but again, hateful comments or harmful feedback arent the answer either.
I can’t believe people think that if someone makes a simpler level and it gets rated, they’re a cp grinder
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ausk making a comment about how in the past he wasn’t getting rated while scrolling past Hatapon in the featured tab…
yeah I already had a lot of footage pre-recorded, I didn't notice that one xD
i do agree with everything except i dont quite agree with the point that "if youre unhappy for someones success, there is something with how youre thinking", since since (in my understanding) the term "unhappy" also includes the feeling of concern, which would be valid in the case of others health and safety being affected by that success. an example of that would be a food product that isnt approved by food regulations and could potentially cause harm to its consumer, but its getting popular on social media as an advertisement (that pink sauce incident). this issue as a whole is complicated and requires setting a precise definition of what is considered harmful
That sentence makes sense in the context of this video, which is about jealousy - in the setting of someone enjoying themselves, and because of envy, you start being angry at their success. Of course, in different context there are different approaches. The topic of the video should be kept in mind when considering such sentences. It doesn't mean they're true in every other context.
@@auskgd yeah, looking back I did took this statement too generally, though I would've preferred if you were a little more specific with its intentions. When I saw the statement on the screen, the buzzer in my head went off thinking about the ways someone can get rightfully concerned over ones success, which, also, can be applied to gd, like asset and level theft getting endorsed, hateful messages getting appraised etc. . My issue is really a minor inconvenience, I just thought that someone else might get confused by the same thing.
@@denme2532your sense of ambiguity does have some validity but it’s definitely clarified to the viewers as they continue watching the video, the only reason his claim isn’t so controversial is because of the context of the video
I agree but look a simple example:Seven sectors created by a popular creator is featured and obuims 3 is also featured while the deco difference is big you get what i mean right
Because at the end of the day Robtop's opinion is what mattters.
This is truly a great video. I see these comments way too often, and I hope that this video opens the eyes of even just one of these commenters and they decide to stop and give these creators some love for spending hours on a hobby just for their enjoyment. Thank you, Ausk.
I didnt get rated on my level but I don't really mind it since it's not a job
also If you make simple levels and get rated cuz your popular isnt fair to the people who dont have creator points make simple level and dont get rated
Honestly, I think you couldn't have said it any better, this game has gotten so far because of the creating scene in this community, and I hate to see creators getting such hate for just pursuing a hobby they favor.
I reently got my first rate and still had those comments even ith 1cp
Ah rip my keys
congrats!
What's the level?
Don't let them unencourage you.
true (still waiting for the 2.2 guide :') )
ok unrelated but like if i made nine circles i wouldve not been able to resist making 700 moving objects and having a "buttersmooth" design
what matters to me is gameplay im not good at creating but when i do create i try to make it as fun as i can cuz i like gameplay that feels good and fun to play i can deco (not that good tho)
I always say to people like that "Just make it yourself If you didnt like what he make" Or "It like you can do any better". But some people always say to me "Your words are pointless" Defending them. Well they are not fully wrong, but what I meant is for them to know that something that looks easy is actually pretty difficult to make. If they can do it, it's because they already have an idea of that level, different from when the creator created that level. I want people to respect other people's work.
whats the mod you use to preview levels?
level thumbnails
@@auskgd thank you
As a former Mobile player that switched to pc, I don’t understand the hate, it’s probably people who haven’t beaten the nightmare (im still trying to beat it…)
What percent I managed to get to 65%, and then I'm currently also trying to get Explorers as my first Medium Demon. I'm on mobile so the struggle do be real....
Comepletely unrelated but I like simple levels because it gives me hope that the CP ceiling is not too high and I could get a rate someday. Overall I actually like when people create simple levels. Not everythings a banger!
Here's the thing too, it's not just level design or how low detailed a level is
Often in my case as a star grinder there's levels made by well known creators who makes bad gameplay in some levels and most of the time it isn't playtested, not to mention it kinda ruins my experience at times grinding but I don't go in the comments and spread hate unless I have something good to say, regardless if you're a creator for years you know better than just overly decorate a level for a rate while it has bad gameplay or the layout wasn't thought through. I don't jealous anyone but I'm very bad at decorating and I'm very good at making well balanced and fun gameplay (also well playtested to find bugs or errors). That being said I would like to see creators improving on the gameplay aspect of creating levels
It gets annoying when you see a level that's fun to play and the comments are just full of people complaining that the level is "lazy" because it doesn't have 100k objects or theres not a lot of moving objects or the style of the level is intentionally simpler or more minimalistic. Like yeah a high deco level can look really good if done right, but low deco levels are often still good as well, and lower deco can actually be better for the gameplay since too much deco can either be distracting or make it hard too see the gameplay.
(It's also annoying how often times you see people complaining about a level because it's too hard for them and how you sometimes can have a comment be massed disliked because you said something positive about a level)
the new players be tryna start controversies since 2.2
fun fact: people who criticize levels for being not good or it sucks probably cannot get 30% of the level.
Finally, someone acknowledging this issue properly. The creation community deserves so much more…
There is only one sentence that i need to say to describe my entire opinion on this video. you are one of the best gd youtubers ever. thats all (:
thank you so much :)
@@auskgd your welcome (:
I'll admit it. I'm jealous of Lifecheck, but I'm still one of his biggest fans. In fact, I support all of his creations and we chat quite a bit on Discord.
Edit: I'm a music creator, so I know where you're coming from.
Back in my day ViPRiN was #1 in the creator leaderboard 👴🏻