This Is Why Airplanes MUST Wait On The Runway

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  • Опубликовано: 17 июн 2021
  • Ever wondered why there are traffic jams in the airports? (besides when it's due to the weather)
    The fact of the matter is that airports are limited by how often they can launch and land aircraft due to wake turbulence. In this video we will explore two different kinds of wake turbulence and their effect on the aviation industry. It's #NotWhatYouThink!
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Комментарии • 3 тыс.

  • @MrLineHaul
    @MrLineHaul 2 года назад +138

    I feel the turbulence when another tractor-trailer passes me on the highway, I can’t even imagine how much turbulence an airplane generates. Very informative indeed. Thanks 😊

  • @kewkabe
    @kewkabe 2 года назад +4063

    I'm a U.S. air traffic controller and was expecting typical clickbait cringe but this was actually well researched and an accurate description of wake turbulence and its effects on airport capacity. Other reasons for delays between departures though can include weather (if aircraft need to deviate a lot around nearby storms, we usually ask for extra departure spacing), and if two aircraft are going on the same route, we usually want at least a minute separation even if wake turbulence rules don't apply. Then of course you can have intersecting runways where another aircraft is about to land, so the departure needs to be held until that aircraft has vacated their runway. But good video overall.

    • @sp111973
      @sp111973 2 года назад +52

      I appreciate your comment. However, I would want to question the "MUST" bit in the headline. I have been on a number of flights where the plane would taxi to the runway and then just blast off without such wait. Guess that is when the previous plane has already departed 2 minutes earlier...

    • @kewkabe
      @kewkabe 2 года назад +69

      @@sp111973 Right, "MUST" is incorrect. Wake turbulence is only applied if the preceding aircraft is in a larger category. Most domestic passenger aircraft are in the same (large) category, so you'll really only deal with wake turbulence at major international airports where those flights tend to be in the heavy category.

    • @divecolosio4988
      @divecolosio4988 2 года назад +13

      @@kewkabe Hmm....i assume there are airports with multiple airstrips, one of which are specially reserved for these large airplanes?

    • @phillee2814
      @phillee2814 2 года назад +16

      @@divecolosio4988 A few. With two available runways, one is generally used for takeoffs and the other for landings, although if one is longer and an aircraft needs that additional length, that has to be worked around. If there are more than two, weight categories can be an efficient way to utilise them, although if local airspace is restrictive, it can be by arrival and departure route instead. Of course, "light" covers a wide range - even a Cessna 152 is "light" and so is Learjet. There is no way on earth I am not giving that Lear (or any other business jet) a healthy clearance on departure in a little Piper, Cessna or similar. His high-speed optimised high wing-loading aircraft is going to produce a lot more wake turbulence than I want to experience, even in a 150 Aerobat (rated for +6 -3g, and yes, I've been to both ends of that limit - voluntarily).

    • @decrobyron
      @decrobyron 2 года назад +13

      He is the one of the few guys on RUclips. Good content maker.

  • @veganwaffle
    @veganwaffle 2 года назад +464

    I don’t give a damn how long it takes to get off of the ground, as long as we can do it without crashing I’m happy doing it tomorrow.

    • @prumchhangsreng979
      @prumchhangsreng979 2 года назад +11

      Ikr. These people are trained to keep us safe. They know what they are doing. I never understand the idea of rushing that fking 3mn

    • @dynamicworlds1
      @dynamicworlds1 2 года назад +17

      Yeah, and let's be real, those few minutes are nothing compared to getting through security and boarding.
      If you want a form of fast transportation where you get underway faster, it's called high-speed rail.
      Traffic control is not to blame for unavoidable inefficencies of your chosen transit method.

    • @surveyguyor8958
      @surveyguyor8958 2 года назад +5

      I'm thinking you've never been stuck in the plane after leaving the gate for 2 hours.

    • @djsurferdude
      @djsurferdude 2 года назад +1

      Amen

    • @StainderFin
      @StainderFin 2 года назад +2

      why no one even thinking that lol? it called traffic ever hear of it?

  • @gta4everrr
    @gta4everrr 2 года назад +203

    One notable exception to the weight classification was the Concord. Even though its weight would have placed in the medium category, it had to be classified as a heavy because of the severity of the wake turbulence it produced during landing.

    • @kewkabe
      @kewkabe 2 года назад +3

      Same with the 757.

    • @Vassilinia
      @Vassilinia 2 года назад +9

      757 was mentioned in the video though I think, but not the Concord.

    • @MuffinOfChaos
      @MuffinOfChaos 2 года назад +9

      Droop snoot was powerful

    • @benr970
      @benr970 2 года назад +6

      @@kewkabe 757 has its own wake classification in the uk, it’s classed as an upper medium so between medium and heavy basically so an extra mile for separation

    • @lzh4950
      @lzh4950 2 года назад +1

      Heard turboprops generate more wake turbulance too although they're typically physically smaller than jets. That was why Singapore upgraded it's _Seletar_ Airport from a general aviation to a commercial one & moved all turboprop flights to there (from Changi Airport, so more takeoff/landing slots could be fitted there)

  • @angusmcangus7914
    @angusmcangus7914 2 года назад +508

    I'm a retired commercial airline pilot. This is a very good and accurate explanation. Well done.

    • @ExplodingPiggy
      @ExplodingPiggy 2 года назад +55

      I used to work at McDonalds and sometimes made the pancakes, I can confirm that this information is accurate.

    • @jaysonbourne8841
      @jaysonbourne8841 2 года назад +6

      @@ExplodingPiggy Bruh! 🤦🤦🤦😭😭😭😂🤣😂😭😭😭

    • @id10t98
      @id10t98 2 года назад +2

      Did ye fly with aer lingus there, Angus?😂

    • @andyrob3259
      @andyrob3259 2 года назад +4

      @@id10t98 More like Air Fungus.

    • @sheritee7328
      @sheritee7328 2 года назад

      @@ExplodingPiggy You are too funny!! Your next job should be stand up comedian!!! Thanks, I needed a great laugh!!!🤣😂😅😂

  • @scottcol23
    @scottcol23 2 года назад +899

    That smoke test they did was fascinating! I knew about the wake turbulence and tip vortices but seeing them in action really displays how much of an impact they have on an area like a runway even 2 min after the plane has landed. Thanks for showing that.

    • @tcdecatur2077
      @tcdecatur2077 2 года назад +3

      Agree!

    • @believeinjesus6972
      @believeinjesus6972 2 года назад +1

      Repent to Jesus Christ
      “For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus,”
      ‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭2:5‬ ‭NIV‬‬
      I

    • @ladmad9196
      @ladmad9196 2 года назад +1

      @@believeinjesus6972 false, one more try

    • @tesmith47
      @tesmith47 Год назад

      @@believeinjesus6972 LOL!!!

  • @lundimardi1975
    @lundimardi1975 2 года назад +72

    That smoke experiment was very cool. But this also explains, however, why at tiny/quiet airports pilots with clearance just take off! I love rolling on to the runway and going immediately!

    • @justafellow5859
      @justafellow5859 2 года назад +11

      it also explains "testimonies" of people flying over the Bermuda triangle and "getting pulled into clud vortex" possibly a plane had passed through that route less than 2-3 minutes ago

  • @frootloops1655
    @frootloops1655 2 года назад +3

    The 757 is not even a wide body but puts out some of the strongest wake turbulence for some reason. One clear, calm night we were departing 08R in ATL in a 717 behind 2 757's and after the required wait we climbed out. At probably 800 ft agl the 717 rolled hard to the left, we received a 'Windshear' alert from Barking Betty and it took full right aileron to recover. One second later it rolled hard to the right, we received another 'Windshear' alert from Barking Betty and it took full left aileron to recover. Whole episode only took a few seconds and it was over.
    Also, with 'reduced separation' of only 1,000 ft vertically ATC will often advise narrow body aircraft when they are approaching (Head on, crossing, etc) an Airbus A-380 super jumbo aircraft which has powerful wake turbulence. Many/most captains of the narrow body aircraft will ask for vectors off course to pass well away from the wake of the A380.

  • @SteveBryant2
    @SteveBryant2 2 года назад +261

    Excellent video! I am a former flight instructor and you've done a real service for the public by accurately explaining the safety issues around wing vortices!

    • @shinyeager2439
      @shinyeager2439 2 года назад +1

      as a former instructor can you tell me if a person can be a pilot if he is thin or have eye sight problem and what are the minimum education qualities of a pilot cadet

    • @rayray8687
      @rayray8687 2 года назад

      @@shinyeager2439: Regulations vary among different countries but generally speaking you will need to have an initial medical exam by a flight-qualified physician and this will include an eyesight test and an ECG (heart function) test. If you are red-green colourblind you will likely not be able to fly as these colours are used as identifiers in aviation. Correctable eyesight issues are not a problem, nor is body shape, size, or weight. To my knowledge there are no minimum education requirements. Happy flying!

    • @nathanvella960
      @nathanvella960 2 года назад +2

      @@shinyeager2439 I was in Air cadets for many years and done many flying lesson's in Tutor T1's ,For the medical part you will need to perform a health exam and meet certain conditions.It's Easy to get into Flying programs through cadet's also worth noting that way you can get some free lessons at the start and if your really interested, it could evolve into a really rewarding opportunity. If anything to do with Being a military Pilot your vision usually must be correctable to 20/20 vision. (Being short sighted and wearing glasses does not stop me from flying tho :) )

  • @neilburns8869
    @neilburns8869 2 года назад +540

    My Dad told me about vortices and how it's very important that an aircraft doesn't get too close to another aircraft.
    Another thing I would also add is that an awful lot of people could do with learning about patience.

    • @mayorb3366
      @mayorb3366 2 года назад +7

      And a certain KLM pilot at Tenerife in 1977. You know the story.

    • @t1m3l0rd
      @t1m3l0rd 2 года назад +1

      Like Louis CK says on his joke.

    • @x--.
      @x--. 2 года назад +8

      Idk, flights are not cheap for me and good communication from the pilots is cheap. Between those two realities I think I can be a bit impatient when I pay a lot and get no communication from the pilots. (That said, I guess I also get annoyed when the city bus driver leaves the bus, us sitting for 15 min with no announcement & an empty driver's seat to stare at) guess it's just me

    • @dirtydingus5465
      @dirtydingus5465 2 года назад +3

      @@x--. yeah, your suffering from an age old affliction known to us older folks as……”ITCHY ASS”

    • @donnamariedavidson5065
      @donnamariedavidson5065 2 года назад +6

      @@mayorb3366 perfect example that resulted in something so horrific.
      Patience matters, for sure.

  • @emeraldzebra9360
    @emeraldzebra9360 2 года назад +2

    At my Airport it's very rare to wait on the Runway. It's usually Hold Short, final announcement saying please sit back and hold onto any items. Then taxi out, line up and just straight into full power and get pinned in the seats. I love it!!!

  • @aliveandkicking1
    @aliveandkicking1 2 года назад +1

    Absolutely amazing video. Thanks 😊

  • @susanowen1709
    @susanowen1709 2 года назад +69

    Very interesting! I knew planes left turbulence in their wake, but I had no idea it was so extreme. The colored smoke really drove it home. Thank you for posting!

  • @FinnaRelease
    @FinnaRelease 2 года назад +3073

    Everyone is first until they refresh

    • @johnnyventura8706
      @johnnyventura8706 2 года назад +168

      but its not what you think

    • @TheOreoOverlord
      @TheOreoOverlord 2 года назад +27

      @@johnnyventura8706 😂👍

    • @chikayy
      @chikayy 2 года назад +54

      @@johnnyventura8706 or is it? *vsauce music intensifies*

    • @Gamer-lz6zz
      @Gamer-lz6zz 2 года назад +14

      @@johnnyventura8706 LMFAO WTFF YOUR PROFILE EVEN MADE IT FUNNIER

    • @cheesenoodles380
      @cheesenoodles380 2 года назад +5

      Best comment that made my week

  • @MatthewHiltner
    @MatthewHiltner 2 года назад +1

    Your humor is half the reason I watch these videos! Good stuff, good humor!

  • @scottmochinski5447
    @scottmochinski5447 2 года назад

    Fascinating video. Well done!!

  • @wweems1953
    @wweems1953 2 года назад +77

    As a student pilot I was departing Fresno CA airport. Just before liftoff the tower announced 87 Quebec be advised a C130 is departing on the right runway. I was thinking “so”? I was maybe 75 feet off the ground when the Cessna 152 I was flying tried to roll over. It took all the aileron control I had to keep the plane level. One of those unforgettable moments.

    • @eddiebruv
      @eddiebruv 2 года назад +8

      @@ezicarus8216 The ‘heads up’ was of no use to him. He didn’t understand the significance of the warning.

    • @rayray8687
      @rayray8687 2 года назад +2

      @@eddiebruv: I’m a bit surprised that 87 Quebec was given clearance to take off into that turbulence considering the dangers that ATC are supposed to control.

  • @USAIRFORCE621
    @USAIRFORCE621 2 года назад +450

    Having spent over 30 years in the world of aviation and flown countless times I speak from experience when I say passengers complain way too much, flight crews will always put safety first as they should and if people can't accept that then they can drive themselves to their destinations!

    • @randykirkland4903
      @randykirkland4903 2 года назад +6

      I appreciate you and what you do to keep everyone safe as there life is really in your hands!!!

    • @Mark-pp7jy
      @Mark-pp7jy 2 года назад +22

      The people who complain the most, know the least. They view the CEO's as greedy bogeymen, and the rest of the employees as lazy, thieving, and uneducated. It's pathetic.

    • @prumchhangsreng979
      @prumchhangsreng979 2 года назад +14

      There's a reason why there are more traffic accident on road than a plane. No wonder air plane is the safest form of transportation. Because there are too many idiot on the road, but they wont be qualify to fly a plane

    • @moseszero3281
      @moseszero3281 2 года назад +6

      I have watched enough air crash investigations to know that your comment is true in the vast majority of cases. But there are stupid pilots like the russian who tried to land with the window covered to prove he could land without seeing the runway and cheap companies that cut corners as well.

    • @NightMotorcyclist
      @NightMotorcyclist 2 года назад +5

      Shoot, even as a private pilot in a Piper Warrior I had to wait 5-8 minutes on the runway que as there were other light aircraft landing and taking off especially on Memorial Day weekend. Those 3+ minutes waiting on the runway is far better than waiting hours in traffic especially if there's a bad accident (caused by impatient and unsafe drivers)

  • @benr970
    @benr970 2 года назад +3

    I’m a air traffic controller in the uk, brilliant video. Where I work we have to achieve 10 mile separation between aircraft going down the same airway so they sometimes have to wait a minute or two even if there isn’t any wake turbulence

    • @chrissede2270
      @chrissede2270 2 года назад

      Is that because of the sector you will be handing them off to, because that is extremely excessive.

    • @benr970
      @benr970 2 года назад +1

      @@chrissede2270 yeah unfortunately, they operate a pretty busy airway so any aircraft we have going down there (most out commercial flights) have to be given that spacing. It’s incredibly annoying when you have a lot of departures to get rid of

  • @flylice2x
    @flylice2x 2 года назад

    Being a retired FAA Aircraft Dispatcher this is an imformative video. Depending trafic, weather and the airport, we pad theTaxi Fuel on the Dispatch Release at certain airports. Many airlines use 15 minutes of taxi fuel.

  • @jayquins
    @jayquins 2 года назад +873

    Your knowledge of planes is outstanding. Continue with the good job.

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  2 года назад +127

      Thanks, will do!

    • @carllarsson5021
      @carllarsson5021 2 года назад +17

      @@NotWhatYouThink Wilco* :)
      Added a smile. :)

    • @emperorpalpatine66
      @emperorpalpatine66 2 года назад +23

      @@NotWhatYouThink Wendover Productions would be impressed

    • @ThisIsThePlanet
      @ThisIsThePlanet 2 года назад +4

      You mean his scriptwriter

    • @dinoplays1019
      @dinoplays1019 2 года назад +9

      For some one who loves avation, he dose know what he is talking about

  • @JohnFoley1701
    @JohnFoley1701 2 года назад +40

    A question i never asked but was fascinated to learn the answer to.

  • @coldjava
    @coldjava 2 года назад

    Thank you! I learned a lot from this video. Nice one.

  • @jing1528
    @jing1528 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for this great info!.. I’ve always wondered.. now I know and makes sense! 👍🏼

  • @hueynapalm
    @hueynapalm 2 года назад +235

    We just learned about this in flight class today. I couldn’t comprehend how bad the wake was but this helped insanely.

    • @societydisorder3864
      @societydisorder3864 2 года назад +7

      Just don't fly commercial. Don't need a pilot who can't comprehend

    • @obstinateundead3931
      @obstinateundead3931 2 года назад +28

      @@societydisorder3864 That is the reason why we are in Flight Class to comprehend. All Pilots can't comprehend at first, there is a lot of information we need to learn just to get our private pilot license (not to mention all the other aviation information we need to learn after private). So yeah, he can fly commercial after he finishes his classes and gets more flight hours.

    • @Orion40000
      @Orion40000 2 года назад +7

      I trained at a small airfield (Andrewsfield) in Essex where there was a major aiport within reasonable flying distance (Stansted).
      I don't know whether it was just because of that proximity, but my instructor was EXTREMELY keen to impress on me just how dangerous jets can be. Mostly because they can be well gone before you encounter their descending wake vortices.
      Worth paying attention the vidoe's claim that a 757 is a Medium, but is actually a Heavy for wake.
      In fact, if you're flying a C152 like I was back in '99, it's probably just best to be cautious of everything. Including birds.

    • @hueynapalm
      @hueynapalm 2 года назад +2

      @@obstinateundead3931 hey. thank you. My biggest thing was at what point did the vortices dissipate in general conditions. How many feet can they travel. At what radius from an airport do you need to stay above jet wash. Etc. It’s a hell of a lot to learn and to use together at first.

    • @hueynapalm
      @hueynapalm 2 года назад +2

      @@societydisorder3864 hey you made a funny. Momma might just be proud of you now.

  • @neilfoster9508
    @neilfoster9508 2 года назад +154

    Absolutely 100% accurate! I have seen wake turbulance from a medium sized airliner flip a Cessna 152 completely over when it failed to wait for the vortices to dissipate. They are more powerful than you think, and last longer than you think. From an ex pilot.

    • @spektred
      @spektred 2 года назад +11

      Damn! Now I will patiently wait every time I am on a plane instead of getting annoyed like I used to 😅

    • @edoedo8686
      @edoedo8686 2 года назад +4

      @@spektred This never ever bothers me. I have been on flights with delays. No big deal. I look at it as, they're doing something that's for our safety, so be it. I just look out the window, or talk...

    • @rayray8687
      @rayray8687 2 года назад

      @Neil Foster: The only thing you have to worry about when flying a C152 is whether there’s a small duck or a dragonfly taking off behind you that might get it wings ruffled, lol. You don’t have to worry if one took off ahead of you because you’ll run out of fuel before you catch up to it anyway!

    • @neilfoster9508
      @neilfoster9508 2 года назад

      @@rayray8687 I never flew the Cessna 152, only the Cessna 150 Aerobat 👍

    • @rayray8687
      @rayray8687 2 года назад

      @@neilfoster9508: I trained in a 152 until my 6’ 2” CFI finally refused to get in it, lol. I had to step up with the extra 20 bucks to the 172.

  • @JediPunk2
    @JediPunk2 2 года назад

    Great video. I learned something today. Love your content.

  • @antonyjoy6852
    @antonyjoy6852 Год назад

    Very useful and informative video for common people . Thank you for sharing 👌👍

  • @MrBig1946
    @MrBig1946 2 года назад +10

    This is interesting. Thanks for providing it. I and everybody easily knew why back in the 1950s/‘60s’ when the cockpit command crew paused at the foot of the runway’s taxiway for awhile before making the turn to take off.
    That was to individually rev each engine on the plane to high power to check the gauges for performance. Then, make the turn and let’s go! For me, this was mostly American DC-6s and 7s at Dallas Love Field. And once on an Eastern Lockheed Super G Constellation at the old Amon Carter Field in Fort Worth. THAT was neat for a kid. It was a night flight. I could see blue exhaust flames coming out of the engine, alerted the stewardess, and got to sit on the first officer’s lap while he explained how it all worked.
    He joked that his job, as first officer, was simple. He pointed out that there was a green light at the tip of one wing, and a red light at the tip of the other. His job was to make sure the captain kept flying between those two lights.
    I was only in second grade, but knew it was BS. 😝

  • @Ddrhl
    @Ddrhl 2 года назад +61

    While I'm no engineer, I do fly a lot (not in the last year and a half though). Thank you for the information. Very clear and very easy to remember!

    • @jesusislord6545
      @jesusislord6545 2 года назад +3

      Repent to Jesus Christ!!
      “As a father has compassion on his children, so the Lord has compassion on those who fear him;”
      ‭‭Psalms‬ ‭103:13‬ ‭NIV‬‬

    • @obaid5761
      @obaid5761 2 года назад +1

      @@jesusislord6545 didn't ask

  • @dr.skulhamr3220
    @dr.skulhamr3220 2 года назад

    Nicely done my friend. Thank you.

  • @tnainio
    @tnainio 2 года назад

    Great, informative video. Thank you :)

  • @anshulsharma9424
    @anshulsharma9424 2 года назад +405

    Your accent is unique (atleast for me) and soothing

  • @DennisEspiritu
    @DennisEspiritu 2 года назад +86

    From now on I will never be annoyed when the airplane waits in the clear runway.

  • @HPD777p
    @HPD777p 2 года назад

    Great video. Thank you!

  • @bijaykishorepatra8113
    @bijaykishorepatra8113 2 года назад +1

    Very informative video, Thankyou...

  • @mumblbeebee6546
    @mumblbeebee6546 2 года назад +37

    “The bigger you are… the harder _they_ fall!” - nice! And true not just in aviation. Thanks for the video!

  • @scottbeaudry121
    @scottbeaudry121 2 года назад +26

    These pilots have both courage and nerves of steel. Especially when landing at the airport at Saint Martin. You can tell how close they come in and the result of the jet wash when the people are caught up in the jet wash.

    • @gizmo8361
      @gizmo8361 2 года назад +2

      Yes, in Sint Maarten tourists stand on Maho beach during takeoff. A woman was killed by jet blast a few years ago.

    • @bidensramblings7695
      @bidensramblings7695 2 года назад

      Such a neat experience though. We could feel the heat all the way back in deep water

  • @HorrorRecapped_
    @HorrorRecapped_ 2 года назад +1

    Great video. Very informative.

  • @Trudloops
    @Trudloops Год назад

    Thanks for the information. It was simply presented and I appreciate the time spent on the tarmac now.

  • @thedove4145
    @thedove4145 2 года назад +54

    This is one of the best channels

  • @UnipornFrumm
    @UnipornFrumm 2 года назад +363

    Welcome to my airport,where safety is number 2 priority.

    • @diamondwolf4030
      @diamondwolf4030 2 года назад +8

      Number 15th at mine

    • @FlatKitten
      @FlatKitten 2 года назад +9

      @@diamondwolf4030 what are your 7th and 12th priorities?

    • @diamondwolf4030
      @diamondwolf4030 2 года назад +32

      7th is to make sure noone survives and 12 is to not lock any doors

    • @FlatKitten
      @FlatKitten 2 года назад +13

      @@diamondwolf4030 are any of your priorities hot towels? If not, I will not be traveling with your company

    • @diamondwolf4030
      @diamondwolf4030 2 года назад +8

      Number 3

  • @MultiSciGeek
    @MultiSciGeek 2 года назад

    Randomly stumbling onto this channel for the third time now. Fascinating stuff once again!

  • @IIVVBlues
    @IIVVBlues 2 года назад

    Great illustrative photography supporting very interesting information.

  • @milesaway3699
    @milesaway3699 2 года назад +141

    So, when the DC-10 wasn’t busy crashing it was causing other crashes? Yes.

    • @fizzy9226
      @fizzy9226 2 года назад +21

      A level of efficiency other manufacturers can only dream about

    • @tailorforeman7082
      @tailorforeman7082 2 года назад

      I don't remember the flight info but there was one case when a DC took off before a Boeing. A piece of the DC fell off and cause the Boeing to crash. pathetic

    • @GaneshKumar-bv2td
      @GaneshKumar-bv2td 2 года назад +5

      @@tailorforeman7082 same story caused the crash of a Concorde, grounding the whole fleet forever. Beautiful machinery brought down forever by junk from that joke of a plane.

    • @tailorforeman7082
      @tailorforeman7082 2 года назад +3

      @@GaneshKumar-bv2td sorry yes, it was the Concorde not an Boeing
      !

    • @to-kx4sn
      @to-kx4sn 2 года назад

      It was the opposite of that. It was in its design stages for well over a decade, it blew it's budget massively and it was one of the most reliable planes out there, with only one crash, which wasn't even its own fault.
      It was and is a beautiful plane, arguably the most beautiful passenger plane to exist.

  • @schecter6l6
    @schecter6l6 2 года назад +43

    When I lived in DC We used to go down to the park right under the approach of WDCA Regan. After a good size airliner passed overhead you could actually hear the wingtip vortices passing by overhead and sometimes see them moving across the field just like a mini tornado and see them transition sometimes from horizontal to vertical. These were strong enough to easily flip over a smaller plane and if you stay inside one long enough flip another airliner. These are powerful suckers and can intensify long after leaving the wingtips.

    • @filanfyretracker
      @filanfyretracker 2 года назад

      I feel like if one tried to go plane watching today you would have PD or suits&sunglasses show up and start thinking you are there for terrorism.

  • @GodlyAtheist
    @GodlyAtheist 2 года назад +1

    Honestly I've always wondered this. Thank you. ♥

  • @SuperFireHog
    @SuperFireHog 2 года назад

    Very informative ! .. and well done !!

  • @scout_raptor
    @scout_raptor 2 года назад +57

    an addon to this: i sometimes fly out of an airport where the smallest aircraft are ultralights and the largest are 737s. the tower almost always makes the small aircraft takeoff before the jets due to wake turbulence...it always seems funny taking priority in a cessna over a southwest jet

    • @JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
      @JohnGeorgeBauerBuis 2 года назад +2

      That is very ironic!

    • @michaelwillis4528
      @michaelwillis4528 2 года назад +2

      If the light is VFR then this is great, if it’s IFR and you don’t have a way to get a good separation then the medium goes first and the light can wait.

    • @loveistheonlyword
      @loveistheonlyword 2 года назад +2

      When we fly the cessnas out of Boston, I wondered why they let us go…nice to know after watching this video.

    • @Fadamor
      @Fadamor 2 года назад +1

      My first flight lessons were out of Hancock International Airport, Syracuse NY. Back then, the NYANG Wing next door to our FBO at the airport flew F-16s, so my plane (usually a Piper Warrior II) was sometimes either queued-up behind or in front of a fighter jet on the taxiway. It makes for interesting takeoffs when you've JUST started your takeoff roll and the tower tells the fighter to "position and hold" right behind you (now I guess they say "line up and wait"). You have this overwhelming urge to make a clearing turn of your own as soon as you get off the ground because you know that fighter is burning jet fuel waiting for you to get out of the way.

    • @johnhugo886
      @johnhugo886 2 года назад +1

      Just remember it is a public use airport paid by public taxes. Small aircraft have just as much right to use that airport. Southwest is just a company trying to make money the same as Joe Blo’s flying school. Because Greyhound busses carry more people than your car, does that mean they get priority over you on the interstate highways that are paid for with your taxes?
      I have been waiting behind airliners for takeoff in my Cessna, as well as put in front of them. It all depends on how the controller sees fit as the best way to expedite traffic flow.

  • @auwz66
    @auwz66 2 года назад +21

    Many years ago I worked near an airport and some days I would eat my lunch very near the runway and watch the planes. One day a 777 came in to land and about 30 seconds later there was a really weird build up of wind and very strange sounds it crossed over the top of us you could literally put your hand out and feel it and see it too kicking up leaves and dust it was crazy. Its the only time I ever felt or saw such a thing but it made me very wary of wake turbulence since that day. The whole incident lasted about 30 seconds and I visited the same spot lots of other times and never saw or felt anything again. I guess that day the winds and the conditions were just right.

    • @jfbeam
      @jfbeam 2 года назад +1

      Ever seen the movie Pushing Tin?

  • @monslay5624
    @monslay5624 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for the information.

  • @geoffreytudor5674
    @geoffreytudor5674 2 года назад

    XLNT and informative. Kudos!

  • @hughezzell10000
    @hughezzell10000 2 года назад +10

    We've got a casino here in Reno, Nv that's about a mile from the end of the runway. If you stand beneath their trees and wait for a large jet to pass overhead, you often notice that the jet is on the runway and hear the wake turbulence blow in the trees above you.

  • @bruno84
    @bruno84 2 года назад +27

    I have to say I was surprised with the accuracy of the information you passed here and also the portfolio of videos you gathered for this video. Very well done!

  • @UltraWeebMaster
    @UltraWeebMaster 2 года назад

    I learned about wake turbulence as a student pilot, but never saw that smoke demonstration before! That’s a great demonstration!

  • @user-jg6ow2pq4p
    @user-jg6ow2pq4p Год назад +1

    Dude your channel is awesome and depth research and presentation is just awesome

  • @banshee315
    @banshee315 2 года назад +77

    Maverick should have known this. Goose should still be with us.

    • @fatatabata
      @fatatabata 2 года назад +1

      Moved to the comments just to write the same comment. You've been faster ;)

    • @id10t98
      @id10t98 2 года назад +2

      That's what happens when you give kids multi-million dollar aircraft to play with.

  • @willcollins9470
    @willcollins9470 2 года назад +6

    I like how you explain stuff straight to the point

  • @nik_evdokimov
    @nik_evdokimov 2 года назад

    Great topic and very informative video, thanks for the work and the research you've done

  • @Fuchswinter
    @Fuchswinter 2 года назад

    This was incredibly interesting and something I never put much thought into. The footage is fasvinating to watch. Thanks for explaining!

  • @CovFlag
    @CovFlag 2 года назад +3

    That was very informative. Thanks for making it!

  • @dashamanstevo5326
    @dashamanstevo5326 2 года назад +7

    That wait at the threshold before the throttles open is the best part! The anticipation is great.

  • @cherias.4069
    @cherias.4069 2 года назад +2

    Thank you for this Educational vid. 😊❤

  • @owainpennington8421
    @owainpennington8421 2 года назад +1

    thank you for making content for us!

  • @johnknapp952
    @johnknapp952 2 года назад +49

    To add to this, helicopters operating off small ships (Frigates, Destroyers, etc.) must take into account the turbulence created by the ships superstructure. I watched our helo loose Tail Rotor Authority due to winds exceeding 45kts over the bow of the ship. Fortunately, as the helo's tail was spinning around the main rotor, the helo managed to lift off the deck and away from the winds and regain control.

    • @penelopelgoss2520
      @penelopelgoss2520 2 года назад +2

      Hi John,
      Do you know the cause or can you speculate the cause the loss of the Helo off the deck of the USS Abe Lincoln off San Diego a few weeks ago?

    • @johnknapp952
      @johnknapp952 2 года назад +3

      @@penelopelgoss2520 From the scant details given by the local news I only know the the helo was trying to land, there was some unusual side swaying (?), the rotors blades struck the deck (which caused the injuries on the flight deck), then the helo went over the side (90' drop). I suspect some sort of mechanical or equipment failure with the flight controls. But without seeing film I can only guess.
      The investigation could take months. And I'm 25+ years past having accesses to Safety Magazines and reports that would cover things like this.

    • @penelopelgoss2520
      @penelopelgoss2520 2 года назад

      @@johnknapp952
      Hi John,
      Thank you. I am unaware of the weather that day across or on the deck of the carrier. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. It's much appreciated!

    • @tofaanshinwari6431
      @tofaanshinwari6431 2 года назад

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    • @chiefsnarlsnortz1610
      @chiefsnarlsnortz1610 2 года назад

      RDC, USCG, Retired, 7 yrs at sea! 2 WHEC’s on west coast & 1 WMEC east coast! Never had any wind issues, a couple fog issues thru the years! Crazy pilots flying off/on such small flight decks, Lol 😂! Training for those hospitals with helo pads on the 25th floor, right? Had 1 “safety officer” pilot, ex Army an Viet Nam pilot onboard 1 patrol. Never wanted us telling when returning to the ship. Always came back high an out of the sun! Good morale booster for those on deck! Great Memories!

  • @janh5199
    @janh5199 2 года назад +6

    Very informative. I knew plane takeoffs and landings were spaced due to turbulence, but you really explained what was happening and why.

  • @krakenpots5693
    @krakenpots5693 Год назад

    Great stuff!!! Really interesting!

  • @edbrackin
    @edbrackin 2 года назад +1

    Those are some of the best images I have ever seen showing this problem.

  • @wolfmangoland7972
    @wolfmangoland7972 2 года назад +12

    Wow, you have excellent knowledge about airplanes. You did excellent research before making this video. Thank you for providing an accurate description of wake turbulence and its effects on airport capacity.

  • @themc.kennyshow6585
    @themc.kennyshow6585 2 года назад +110

    Thank you for putting 'metres' measurements when you said 'feet' - us British matter too 😂

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  2 года назад +87

      Not just the British. Pretty much all non-Americans 😉

    • @tomgardner8842
      @tomgardner8842 2 года назад +7

      @@NotWhatYouThink das stimmt

    • @themc.kennyshow6585
      @themc.kennyshow6585 2 года назад +1

      @@NotWhatYouThink and them too of course 👍🏿

    • @StarscreamX404
      @StarscreamX404 2 года назад +7

      Murican measuring system confuses me

    • @Urban_goose101
      @Urban_goose101 2 года назад +3

      @@StarscreamX404 it confuses us too! But we like it!

  • @guinb9779
    @guinb9779 2 года назад

    Nice video! Very informative and explained very well. It was explained and demonstrated so everybody can understand. Thank you and well done!

  • @matthewford937
    @matthewford937 2 года назад

    The most interesting channel on RUclips! Fascinating and compelling! Keep up the great videos!

  • @anthonyglee1710
    @anthonyglee1710 2 года назад +8

    Living under very short final from the threshold at London Stansted. The wingtip votives, whilst in my garden, make a noise which is haunting and sinister. Gives me chills.

    • @gregc6661
      @gregc6661 2 года назад

      Yes I’ve heard that sound whilst at a friend’s, really eerie. Very unnerving for anyone who doesn’t understand it.

    • @imho2278
      @imho2278 2 года назад

      At the start of the Adelaide airport runway, when the 777 comes over to land, you can hear the whispering vortices all around.

  • @georgeirwin3511
    @georgeirwin3511 2 года назад +4

    Excellent presentation, excellent narration. I learned something today and reinforced something that I thought was a reason for some delays.THANKS.

  • @randomtourist6656
    @randomtourist6656 2 года назад +1

    I have learnt a new thing today.
    Very informative 👏 👌 👍

  • @chrismorris76
    @chrismorris76 2 года назад +1

    This is a very clearly explained and informative video - nice work…

  • @SouperAsH
    @SouperAsH 2 года назад +4

    I'm in love with that final quote. This is a very enjoyable channel.

  • @AlvinGamerID
    @AlvinGamerID 2 года назад +184

    I didn't expect anyone to be watching this in the middle of the night

    • @PovidisII
      @PovidisII 2 года назад +2

      me too

    • @Gary_Harlow
      @Gary_Harlow 2 года назад +37

      Time Zones?

    • @epixtille7069
      @epixtille7069 2 года назад +9

      @@Gary_Harlow na those dont exist

    • @alexwallex1721
      @alexwallex1721 2 года назад +2

      🤦‍♂️

    • @ysbrand1114
      @ysbrand1114 2 года назад +14

      @@epixtille7069 yeah fuck time zones all my homies hate time zones

  • @alanfoster2226
    @alanfoster2226 2 года назад

    Wow ! Learn something new each day ! Thank you for this informative video ! Everyone that flies need to watch this. Then, they wouldn't complain about time anymore !

  • @donthecap5691
    @donthecap5691 2 года назад

    Didn't know any of this, very interesting and informative.Thank you ☺

  • @NotaTechGuy177
    @NotaTechGuy177 2 года назад +7

    I knew about the wingtip vortices (also called downwash by the way) but never knew they extended that far. Very informative, thank you!

  • @EeveeAsPie
    @EeveeAsPie 2 года назад +1849

    Rule of thumb: If you're going to fly, don't name your flightcraft "Challenger"

    • @TheMemeDynamics
      @TheMemeDynamics 2 года назад +31

      **Turbulance noises intensifies**

    • @death13a
      @death13a 2 года назад +21

      Or ship Titanic!

    • @masonjia
      @masonjia 2 года назад +28

      @Thomas Carmody space shuttle

    • @masonjia
      @masonjia 2 года назад +44

      @Thomas Carmody space shuttle challanger exploded in the air… shortly after it launched.
      rip all the astronauts in the space shuttle

    • @TheMemeDynamics
      @TheMemeDynamics 2 года назад +7

      @@masonjia **STS-51-L noises intensifies**

  • @Fujin1111
    @Fujin1111 2 года назад

    Wow! Appreciate the hard work that goes into keeping us safely airborn

  • @AMJ45
    @AMJ45 2 года назад

    Excellent presentation. I learned a lot.

  • @stevenchow408
    @stevenchow408 2 года назад +28

    Had a feeling it was for safety. Didn't realized it was cause of a vortex.

    • @santhony1978
      @santhony1978 2 года назад +2

      Me too. I figured it was for traffic. Also safety. 👍

  • @Iris_Collins
    @Iris_Collins 2 года назад +4

    Learn something new every day. Thank you for the excellent information.
    Reassuring that flying safely is taken seriously.

  • @paulrandig
    @paulrandig 2 года назад

    Not only a very good explanation but also great pictures!

  • @tornagawn
    @tornagawn 2 года назад

    Some lovely video of vortices thanks..

  • @michaeltaylors2456
    @michaeltaylors2456 2 года назад +24

    Actual measurable testable science, as opposed to wild ass guessing and stentorian toned pronouncements, refreshing and hope inspiring. Excellent content sir

    • @CertifiedForkLiftOperator69420
      @CertifiedForkLiftOperator69420 2 года назад +1

      You can ask a flight attendant she/he will tell you why they wait. sometimes the capt. or co pilot will announce why they must wait. at least the few planes i been on did. they compared it to a wake of a boat or trying to drive a small boat behind a bigger boat.

    • @ronalddmccall6154
      @ronalddmccall6154 2 года назад

      @@CertifiedForkLiftOperator69420 This has some misleading data. There is also separation issues. Same type a/c can depart immediately after take off, if course diverge by 45 degrees or more immediately , if within 5 miles the 1 minute. The wait is not always dependent on wake turbulence.

  • @anthonylamb09
    @anthonylamb09 2 года назад +3

    Thank you for clarifying this for us ALL. now that we know this, we will be more tolerant. Thank you again.

  • @gullygully69
    @gullygully69 Год назад

    Nice video. And I liked the demo of the vortices with coloured smoke.

  • @acedrafter
    @acedrafter 2 года назад

    Thank you for sharing ❤️ 😊

  • @mrz80
    @mrz80 2 года назад +3

    00:31 - DCA! That's the new Wilson Bridge down past the end of the runway. That little park at the north end of the airport is a great spot for plane-watching.

  • @bobdylan7120
    @bobdylan7120 2 года назад +26

    The wing tip vortices also produce drag, which is the main reason the airlines wanted a solution (save money on fuel). That's why airliners now have winglets to reduce the vortex and reduce the drag.
    If you watch the video again you'll see that the aircraft producing the largest vortices all have a flat wingtip (no winglets).

    • @whatsupbudbud
      @whatsupbudbud 2 года назад +1

      Cool, thanks for sharing. Always wondered why those exist.

  • @WhyteLis21
    @WhyteLis21 2 года назад

    Great information! The more you know! 👍

  • @martindebrois1472
    @martindebrois1472 2 года назад

    Great information ... Thanks 🙂

  • @nirwanmaharjan8610
    @nirwanmaharjan8610 2 года назад +32

    "Safety second, I guess" was op😆

  • @jovanni_orb5116
    @jovanni_orb5116 2 года назад +20

    I am about to start pilot school. This is useful.

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  2 года назад +11

      Good luck!

    • @jovanni_orb5116
      @jovanni_orb5116 2 года назад +8

      @@NotWhatYouThink thank you

    • @insectbite1714
      @insectbite1714 2 года назад +2

      @@jovanni_orb5116 my step dad is a flight pilot he knows everything

    • @jovanni_orb5116
      @jovanni_orb5116 2 года назад +3

      @@insectbite1714 that's cool I wish I had someone like that around me that would be so much help.

  • @impulse034
    @impulse034 2 года назад

    Education is key, thanks for the explanation

  • @Dr.Pepper001
    @Dr.Pepper001 2 года назад

    Good job explaining that.