Drinker's Extra Shots - Steve Jobs
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- Опубликовано: 12 июл 2021
- Steve Jobs, starring Michael Fassbender, Jeff Daniels and Kate Winslet, is a brilliantly written behind-the-scenes account of one of the most influential men in the world of technology.
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“Micheal Fassbender... An immensely talented actor who picks his movies by dartboard.”
assassins creed
But Prometheus and alien covanent 😂
Dude has the world's worst agent
Fassing Michaelbender
Hopefully he's going to reedem himself - Kung Fury 2 and the new Fincher movie look promising 🤞
Love that when Steve Wozniak saw the movie he said, "None of that happened, but it's all true."
what does it mean exactly??
@@theadieke6584 I think the OP means that it captures the essence of what took place, even if the details aren't strictly correct.
@@princebubby hmm, i get it now... thanks
"This is the West. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend." -- "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance"
Just like so many other movies that are "based on real events." That's some pretty heavy stuff right there though, dude. Glad you posted it.
"You're stupid and you hire stupid people" - Steve Jobs to a manager he fired. Fitting words to describe big Hollywood studio executives today - and why they should be fired.
Now it's the norm in tech, with HR departments controlling who gets hired based on skin color, gender, orientation etc., not talent, skill or merit.
@@charmingpeasant9834 ……..sigh, you are correct……..but I wish you weren’t. The West’s punishment for striding ahead.
And barred, too, from ever working in entertainment again.
On the subject of hiring stupid people. Didn't Seth Rogan declare from on high that if you believe that All Lives Matter you don't deserve my movies?
@@skylx0812 …….yep, which is pretty hypocritical from a stoned, communist, indolent ‘actor’ of limited ability. HE, doesn’t deserve his movies, we’re just the ones who have to endure them.
Doctors: You can't beat cancer with meditation and a bunch of vegetables!
Steve Jobs: Nah, it'll be fine.
Didn't he go on an all carrot diet?
Perfect comment
@@Badmunky64 Correct, he was on the Bugs Bunny diet. He ate so many carrots, his skin turned slightly orange (carotenoderma).
4Freedom4All, I would disagree that he denied his own mortality. I have been reading the biography of Jobs by Walter Isaacson and Steve felt from a fairly young age that he wouldn’t live a long life. That’s kind of why he was always trying so hard to make the next big thing; he felt he had to leave a mark on the world because he wouldn’t get to live that long of a life.
@4Freedom4All That's one thing about Jobs that's sobering but true: with the kind of money (and clout) that he had, he probably could have had someone transfer his soul into one of the unwashed masses and lived to the age of 400.
Great performance by Fassbender. Figured the script was more fanfic than documentary, but Fassbender's performance was worth seeing the movie once.
Fassbander is wonderful in most things he's in
I hate Apple so much.
I mean, he IS the same screenwriter from The Social Network...
@@BigALBoomer 12 years a Slave, Shame, even Prometheus as the robot David. Fassbender is my favorite actor, and he had a few bad years, but has some auspicious projects upcoming...
His scenes with Kate Winslet were especially good, I thought.
Apple engineers: we found a way to make the iPhone screen stronger.
Jobs: Good, make it thinner
Cook: "good, we can add $100 more to the price tag"
make it glass
And charge so much to fix a busted screen that if aliens landed on earth and observed humans on their mobile devices, they would think that the phones were sold with a cracked screen and used that way on purpose.
Only have basic Bluetooth that's legally enforced for hands free driving and no other function. Also don't bother with 3g, we can stick a new antenna in the next model so they have to upgrade as soon as they brought it
And breakable!
Ah yes, the turtleneck strangling the world's throat.
A mock turtleneck, at that.
Not mine. Tried an iPhone 3GS for a couple of years. Switched to Android and never looked back. But I admit Apple makes great machines for complete cretins who don't have enough brain cells to learn to use a computer. I'm pretty sure social networks contents would be far more intelligent if you just removed all the Apple users.
From someone who knew him early on, "If you were in a room with Steve Jobs and a block of ice, you'd stand close to the ice to get warm."
It takes an especially talented group of people to coax any kind of empathy towards Jobs.
Or, you know, the media when he was still alive
Wait until remake about Elon Musk.
I have zero empathy for him. If he were to die in front of me I'd just casually watch while eating a box of M&Ms
Jobs was definitely a perfectionist jerk, but he was an innovator who changed how we see and interact with computers. Visionaries are rarely the most pleasant people; just look at Stanley Kubrick.
@4Freedom4All the last time we got an actor that looks like jobs, well…we know how that one turned out. I think they chose fassbender just for his acting, which is a decision I can get behind.
“And it all started with a college drop out named Steve”
Indeed! Steve Wozniak. The actual designer of the Apple I
Wow had no marketing skill as he himself acknowledged.
Not my type of movie, but as ever, my type of review.
Wasn’t there another version? There was one that started with Steve going through acid trips. It also depicted how Steve got ousted after becoming too assholely.
@@kintamas4425 there was another version where Ashton Kutcher played Jobs and it was, as expected, pretty terrible.
@@andrehb huh was it really that bad? Whatever… I remember watching and enjoying it with my dad so the ‘true’ quality doesn’t really matter to me.
Thanks for helping me remember it more though
Yeah, not my kind of movie either. I'd sooner watch a documentary about a person or thing than a biopic, because they're usually more accurate. The film about the band Queen for example was only loosely based on real events and the chronology of said events. Not interested in smart phones or computers particularly. I have them because they're necessary for my work but i don't give a shit about having the latest model.The Drinker was very persuasive however. I may just give this a look. Watched some other films he's recommended that i didn't think were for me and was pleasantly surprised. Good to get away from my usual choices on the advice of a critic i trust. Sorry went on a bit there. Cheers!
Check out Pirates of Silicon Valley. It's a TNT movie from the late 90s that follows the rise of Apple and Microsoft. By all accounts, the movie is pretty damn spot on historically and Noah Wyle and Anthony Michael Hall, as Jobs and Gates, are solid in their roles. My only real criticism, too much Moody Blues. Being a TV movie, I suppose they didn't have the budget for a proper soundtrack.
"You've never had any respect for me. Why is that?" - Because you're Seth Rogan.
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Seth Rogan is the PRIME EXAMPLE of why you should NOT Cast someone who Looks like the Character you want, but can't act for Toffee...
@@annoyboyPictures But that was some damn good weed. What was it called again? Oh yeah...
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Michael Fassbender was brilliant in this. The guy is Such a talented actor, he’s been brilliant in every movie I’ve seen him in
good movie
While Jobs may or may not have died a hero, his company at this point certainly lived long enough to see itself become a villain.
That kinda shows you how much of a powerful presence he was on his company's culture
They did that while he was alive and he helped them to do it .
I don't know where people get off on this. Apple's current form is exactly what Jobs ideal was. A locked down, unrepairable, stuck with it's products and support, unupgradeable, sealed box. Jobs fought everyone at Apple his whole career to make the apple of today. It took someone else to actually pull it off.
@@johngaltline9933 That's true. I haven't used a single Apple product in my whole life.
@@kreese-yi2nb I've used plenty of them. There was a time when, if you were in the market for a higher end product, Apple made a good one. G4 ibooks, G5 Mac Pros, even the first half decade of Intel Mac pro/macbooks were really good machines for a professional, power user environment, offering the performance and durability only found in other similarly priced options and often even offering a better product for the same price. While you could always get the same performance for less money on the PC, or hell, Commodore 64 compared to an Apple IIe, for a turn key solution, Apple still offered competitive products up until around 2015. That's the last year they made a truly pro level laptop that was worth buying for anyone that didn't want to throw it away when it was time for any little upgrade or repair.
I was quite blown away at Jeff Daniels' and Seth Rogan's performance as serious dramatic actors. I was expecting some kind of comedy with them but was pleased they didn't. Like they say, comedians make better dramatic actors than dramatic actors make comedians.
Before 'Dumb and Dumber' Jeff Daniels was ONLY a very serious dramatic actor!!! Some said picking him for that part was a huge mistake and even the studios were hesitant to back the film. He has always been amazing at delivering in a serious role!
True. In Wonder Woman 1984 it's painfully obvious how Kristen Wiig is putting so much more effort and emotion in her performance when she vents her feelings on Diana, while Gal Gadot in that same scene just keeps the same face and voice and just slowly shakes her head.
@@felaciosuxonadik8517 I remember when he played George Washington in a TV movie years ago, he was great in that role.
I really loved Jeff Daniels as Colonel Joshua Chamberlain in Gettysburg.
No one has mentioned Kate Winslet in these comments but she was great, too.
I side with Bill Burr's take on Steve Jobs. "Jesus...Gandhi.....Me!" 🤣
Same.
Apple Fanatics: Steve Jobs invented the mouse, the GUI, the tablet computer, and the smart phone
Yeah, he did none of that. Steve didn't invent anything whatsoever, and Apple didn't even invent any of those. Each and every one of those was done by someone else long before Steve even voiced the idea.
That's not to say he was useless or did nothing of note - not at all. It simply means people are misguided and misinformed as to his actual accomplishments. By focusing on engineering feats that can't be attributed to him or to Apple, people miss the importance of what he and Apple were able to do.
And yes, he was a narcissistic douchebag. But no, he wasn't ONLY a narcissistic douchebag. Like the rest of us, he was far more (and far less) than any of that.
@4Freedom4All Plenty of people - a great many - fit my description. The fact that you're not one of them is a good thing.
As for your idea that none of these things would be in popular use without Jobs is ridiculous. There were already touch-screen computers, GUIs, mice, etc in the workplace before Apple ever touched them. People were already asking for the same things to enter the home market. Apple, under Jobs, simply brought them to the home market more quickly than the rest.
Yes, things would be a bit different, but we'd still have smartphones, tablets, GUIs, mice, touch-screens, etc - all integrated.
Jobs was a visionary, but he wasn't the only one. He was just the first one to point a consumer computer company in that direction for the home market.
I agree but what he did have was vision. If not for Jobs, Woz would have been content with just given away his ideas and Apple would never have existed. As the line from Jobs in the movies says "I played the orchestra".
Yeah, he didn't invent a smartphone, he just invented a smartphone that people would pay $3000 to own (which is to say, usability and a metric fuckton of marketing).
@@TheSchaef47 Yep. He made the engineers design the product as "sexy", brought it to market at the right time, and cornered the market before anyone else knew what hit them. Dude was a genius in that way. He understood pop culture, and he knew how to tap into it better than any other.
@4Freedom4All I think you're focusing a bit too much on a specific price point - and maybe it's my own fault for being hyperbolic - and less on the larger point that virtually none of the Apple products are original concepts but nearly all of them - computer, tablet, phone, MP3 device - are designed and marketed to be a trendy, disruptive commodity sold at a comparatively premium price point (to say nothing of the additional dollars for accessories, services, etc)
Your closing catchphrase never fails to send me into fits of laughter. Especially this time, it seemed more abrupt than usual 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Goes to the Rank Xerox lab, steals all their ideas. Doesn't get sued into the ground for some strange reason.
Probably because trademark or copyright or whatever laws responsible for intellectual property weren't as well made back in those days but I am not a lawyer so I could be very wrong here.
wasnt that bill gates and microsoft?
seem to remember a tv movie saying so (think it was called "the pirates of silicon valley") . all the lads traipsed down there and robbed em blind.
@@HERITAGE12 yeah both were there and both got "inspired" . Somehow not mentioned at all in the movie....
The REAL reason was that all of those companies were stealing each other's ideas and executives and design engineers, so they didn't dare to start an investigation that would end right at their own door! The most genius thing originally thought up by Jobs was his point and click idea with icons and clicking on them instead of typing up a command. He hired engineers from a company called, wait for it, Micro Soft to program the language necessary for the thing to work. It was later called a "mouse". ALL of those companies worked together as much as they worked against each other back then because they all also knew how technology became obsolete overnight and never stopped changing.
@@felaciosuxonadik8517 The mouse, point and click was created at Xerox Park labs. The executives at xerox thought it was turning computers into toys, so they didn’t care.
Guys, when the Drinker is talking about Jobs in this video, he is talking about the character from the movie, so Jobs being "A man that can solve almost any technical problem the world throws at him" doesn't refer to the real Jobs.
I don't think that is meant to imply that Jobs himself could literally solve any technical problem alone. It just means he had the leadership skills to drive his team to do the impossible. That is a technical feat in itself.
@4Freedom4All lol u realy think if it wasnt bcs of job we wound thave the same technology? the market itsefl will make the tech we have today if not named job any other person would take his place.
Genuinely one of my favourite movies - thank you drinker for talking about it. Unlike so many writers who try to cram an entire lifetime of achievements and failures, these guys were smart enough to build their story around just 3 key events. And even though it’s only 3 events, so much is packed in that you can easily move from one to the next, and have an understanding of what’s taken place between. I almost wish they did a follow up, but I know it would be a cash grab in a different style and it just wouldn’t work.
Looking forward to "Bill Gates - the movie". Especially the bit at the end where he's strung up by his feet, and pelted with rocks.
Don’t forget to nicked all his trips to pedo island…
Not until you get past his 5G vaccin zombies.
And buys up all the farmland in the Midwest
Can't wait
And apparently is a medical "expert" cuz he's Bill Gates.
I don't give a frog's fat ass that this movie tanked at the box office. This is in my Top 5 of all time and I say it's one of the best acted, best directed and best paced "character dramas" I have ever seen. 10/10 ZFG
I'm in this movie. I'm in the audience in the San Francisco Symphony Hall when Jobs announced his big comeback to Apple with the iMac. They even recreated the place to look how it did in '98, and the other extras and I were told to wear our most late-90's-ish outfits!
I'm in this comment section. I'm the guy responding to the guy who said he was in the movie.
I prefer Bill Burr's explanation of things concerning this toolbag. "You see this phone? I want all my music to fit inside it.. GET ON IT!!"
and then all the engineering guys made it happen while Jobs walks around barefoot with no belt like a rockstar.
Bill Burrs skit on Steve Jobs was hilarious, and painfully accurate
Oof.
Steve Jobs is one of my favorite movies. Fassbender is fantastic as always.
Steve Jobs was the worlds best salesmanager. Nothing more, nothing less
Visionary
A part of Apple's soul did die with him.
"A man who could solve almost any technical problem thrown at him.." not really. He was an idea man, not an engineer. Other people solved the technical problems in order to realise his vision.
Yeah, agreed... It's always like that, because mostly the real tinker stays behind the screen, rare example of both Is John Carmack... Other just a bullish Idea Man
It's an equally valuable skill though. The best engineering team in the world is useless if they don't know WHAT to design, and left to themselves, engineers would still be trying to come up with improved sliderules, because the ones they had just didn't have enough features
@@talltroll7092 Not really. Engineers would come up with something to replace the slide rule. They just wouldn't care about marketing at inflated prices, or taking away a feature along with adding a feature just so you could convince people to buy a new model two years from now that "now has both features together!"
They'd say why don't we just make it the best we can right now.
@@talltroll7092 for sure a valuable skill, I wasn't suggesting otherwise. I only wanted to point out the inaccuracy in his statement. Also, I think you're confusing marketing people and product owners with engineers.
People need leaders it’s just the way it is
It wouldnt be a Sorkin movie without Jeff Daniels...
Just when I thought you couldn't say anything dumber, you went and said this....
...AND TOTALLY REDEMMED YOURSELF!!!!
The Act 2 scene between Fassbender’s Jobs and Daniels’ Sculley is one of the greatest fight scenes I’ve ever seen, and no punches are thrown. It’s all sharp, pointed dialog and brilliant, passionate acting.
Ironic how PC was responsible for Jobs's death...........
The irony has another layer : The cancer was probably caused by the vegan diet Steve did.He thought it would make him healthier,even though he only felt good after eating sushi.
Fassbender was great here. I thought he got the little details in Jobs mannerisms. Even if they glossed over some stuff that happened irl here and there I thought that the pacing was right. And that's where the screenplay comes in. The dialogue is sharp and on point, like many of Sorkin's screenplays.
Hearing about this movie makes me think of Epic Rap Battles of History: Steve Jobs vs. Bill Gates.
Epic rap battles are fucking trash
@@jonathanwells223 Eastwood vs Bruce Lee was pretty funny
One of their best battles. "Fortune 500 before you kissed a girl."
@@jonathanwells223 hahahaahahhaha
Gates introducing himself with, "You blow, Jobs" will never fail to make me laugh.
"...almost any technical problem...." Cue the "ha ha ha" clip.
This is an incredible movie that no one I talk to has ever seen. If you understand the structure and tone of the film and don't expect a standard biopic, it's an enthralling watch
Really: "A man that can solve almost any technical problem the world throws at him".
I thought you were joking with this line....
I feel that this might be how the movie portrays him but not how he was in life and when doing a review of a bio-pic it is easy to mix them up.
It's a story, this is a character named Steve Job, not a reflection of the real human, more a semi-heroic refraction.
It's basically the reality distortion field all over again.
In its own way, the film is kind of subversive, in that it shows a lot of Jobs' least desirable qualities - starting and ending with his insistence that everything he did was right all of the time - but it hammers that insistence so relentlessly that by the end of the movie you find yourself wondering... maybe he really was that brilliant?
Drinker is so right that there's no better than seeing good actors sinking their teeth into great material and I remember it made me so happy for Michael Fassbender, a great actor that's always been on the verge of super stardom. And that he finally got to play with material of this quality. Unfortunately, the fate of the movie with less than stellar box office and next to no noise at award shows parallel Fassbender's career and explains why he is not a bigger star. Even though he has the skills and charisma to be that.
This movies is what cemented for me Fassbender's status as a world-class actor. He truly embodied what made Jobs, and he sells the performance so much that you forget that he doesn't really look much like him. Contrast with Ashton Cutcher's portrayal.
best thing about drinker is his dedication and consistency with the uploads. God bless you
This is new YT algorithm.
Completely agree!!
The drunkest guy on RUclips is the most reliable
I had a Creative Labs Nomad portable .mp3 player a couple of years before the first iPod came out. The notion that Apple invented portable digital music players is laughable.
There was a thing called Sony Walkman you know. Also, Drinker never said about "inventing" - but popularizing "Music-as-Service" on flash based device.
@@piotrd.4850 I wasn't criticizing the Drinker. Also Sony Walkman was magnetic tape based with moving parts. Not exactly a modern digital format. Thank you for playing.
Jobs was a complicated man. He's no hero but he's also not a villain. He's both.
This is a simple snd complex film all at the same time. The drama created around this character in just 3 indoor locations is quite amazing. The acting, the script, and the directing are firing on all thrusters here. It really is amazing for something so small in scope...except for the man himself.
Well this should be interesting...
Was it
Fuckin A right.
Genius level, college dropout named steve, makes a billion dollars, damn, take away the billions and throw in a lot of whiskey and a trailer park, and he and I have a bunch in common....
A great review mr drinker.
This film is a rare example of a movie that improves each time you watch it.
At the time I remember being disappointed that Fincher was not actually going to direct this picture…..I needn’t have worried, Boyle knocked it out of the park.
Anytime I think about a scene from this movie, I look it up. When I watch it, I then watch another. Then I watch the whole movie. Rinse. Repeat.
“Gandhi, Einstein, john Lennon…….Steve Jobs” good old Bill Burr nailed it
"Jesus, Gandhi, ME!"
Horrible humans who were beneficial to humanity as a whole?
@@Cl0ckcl0ck No, the phone salesman Jobs being so far up his own ass that he actually thinks he's in the same ranks as the others.
Who the fuck are they so you compare them to Einstein?
I imagine a movie like this would never get made today, not enough representation. Or maybe they will do one where they race and/or gender swap Steve Jobs.
Lol after the Buzzfeed shit show where they try to go 'a day without black inventions' and just say everything was invented by black people and pray you won't fact check it, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised.
They’d probably make all the Apple engineers Black so it looks like Steve is the oppressive white master profiting off the work of the exploited persons of color.
Anybody know if Danai Gurira is done with Black Panther 2 so she can come play Steve Jobs in the remake?
@@g00bers24 don't you dis that video, it shows us how a black man invented the light bulb!
(...'s slightly more efficient filament than the other ones his co-workers were also developing)
Of course the insecure white guy makes this about race or gender per usual
I gotta add my Kudos to the exceptional performance (that by now I guess we should be used to) Of Mike Fassbender, that just straight up pulls a seance and summons Jobs' persona.
Bill Burr nailed it in a skit about Jobs. He just told other people what to invent and took the credit. I suppose he was not the first one to do that though. He just did it the best.
I like the one with Ashton Kutcher better to be honest. It shows the whole journey as opposed to this one that just focuses on a narrow (and to be honest, boring) part of Steve's career.
Ashton’s performance as Jobs was absolutely incredible too. He walks, talks, even eats like Steve Jobs. He even adopted his hygiene habits. Hell, his diet even put in the hospital. Yet, that film is tragically overlooked due to this one. Think I’ll finally check this one out.
I got this joke that they make too many cell phone or internet based movie.
The social network
The emoji movie
One missed call
And two movies and Steve Jobs, because Apple customers are never satisfied with the first version of any product.
Sent from my IPhone
i actually appreciated that it didn't try to be a full-on origin story, i enjoy biographical films more when they focus on specific events rather then trying to fit someone's entire life in 2 hours
I really loved this film. I never hear anyone mention that the movie implies that Steve (through being a stubborn asshole) tried to prove his Ex wrong by trying to treat his cancer with fruit, all of the setup is there in the film, yet nobody ever mentions that they imply it in the movie.
Steve Jobs didn't kill himself. Oh wait wrong guy.
probably them conflating the setup in the movie with what happened in real life. The movie wouldnt dare to imply jobs wasnt perfect.
You sir are the man! I’ve always enjoyed this movie and now my bias is confirmed lol
This movie is truly a fun ride. Worth watching.
Never heard of this, but it sounds really good.
Seth Rogen said you're not funny and he knows. he is in the sphere
Another stellar shot... thank you drinker 🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃🥃
Saw the movie at its time it really had heart in it.
Have you ever reviewed the nice guys with Russell Crowe and Ryan gosling...one of my favorites and I'd love to hear the drinkers take on it
Oh yeah....loved that movie. Probably one of the funniest movie of the time. Especially Russell Crowes opening scene😂😂, it was hilarious.
Excellent suggestion! I kept hoping there would be a sequel but I guess it didn't do well enough at the box office. It's the last buddy cop movie I saw and way better than most.
@@scifiwriter98 yup, somehow it didn't do well at box-office.
Steve Jobs: I'm the smartest guy in the world and have all the money I could ever wish for
Karma: Hi Steve, meet pancreatic cancer 😂
What's more interesting is he had one of the VERY FEW forms of PC that actually responds well to treatment and he chose to eat nuts or some shit instead
@@anthonyp4209 I believe Jobs choice to ignore doctors and go with a wholistic treatment he deemed better was the summit of his arrogance.
Pancreatic is a real bitch. It also claimed the lives of Alex Trebek, John Hurt, and Alan Rickman, among others.
@@TheSchaef47 It sure is - so all the more stupid that Jobs, who had a version you can treat, chose to believe his own BS and not seek actual medical treatment until WAY too late.
@@soundpro707 Ironically this is my biggest complaint with the Drinker's review (rare enough that I have one of those!)...the movie attempts to whitewash Jobs' overweening ego at the end, he learns NOTHING, and that leads him to ignore his doctors, and hence lose his life. Almost Shakespearean, if you think of it....
Oh also, the iMac didn't validate Jobs....it was the iPod and iPhone....Apple never built a successful computer (the Mac was and is a niche product that represents a rounding error in PC sales to this day), they did build successful devices....big difference...
I always find myself watching this movie every time I run across it on.
The Ashton Kutcher movie “na it won’t be fine “! the Michael Fassbender movie hell yeah. That rooftop scene at the end as he’s waiting to unveil the iMac with his then college age, daughter is beautifully written, acted and emotionally satisfying.
This film was extremely well made as Drinker points out -- and a completely fictional piece of propaganda trash. Of course, so was Bohemian Rhapsody and that was a good movie too on its own completely fictional propaganda merits.
That Steve Jobs exists solely as a result of the cult of Jobs -- none of whom actually paid and went to see it, by the way -- is a travesty and a waste of cinematic resources.
@Color King Guess I should have been clearer and not made an assumption that everyone knew. Bohemian Rhapsody was partly produced by Jim Beach and the surviving members of Queen were "consultants" (really defacto producers under Beach) and basically whitewashed to make themselves look as good as possible as Mercury's supportive and equal teammates in the band. Research on the band's history will prove anything but. Now as a fairy tale about the life of Freddie Mercury, it was as entertaining a movie as Steve Jobs was about Steve Jobs. But they were both propaganda pieces. Jobs daughter was a consultant and producer on the Steve Jobs film which explains the soap opera aspect of that particular film.
@4Freedom4All Perhaps the solution is to kill them so we can make movies about them
Exactly. Odd thing is that companies need a shitbag salesman like Jobs because engineers often make shitty business guys, to say nothing of 'visionaries'. That doesn't make Jobs some sort of tech genius, just a guy who knows what'll sell. I guess 'marketing' takes a kind of genius but let's be clear what Jobs was, a salesman. Nothing wrong with that but I do believe in being clear.
No offense but I disagree Bohemian Rhapsody freakin sucks in my opinion.. the actor played Freddie Mercury was very good but I never saw Mercury and it’s was just such a mess off a movie with unecessary scenes and acting was annoying at some points.. no Control about Joy Diversion and Ian Curtis now that was a great movie and that actor who played Curtis was Ian Curtis ..
@@IanConnel That's your answer for everything!
Bill Gates should not have given that money to Steve.
Steve Jobs was a salesman, all those "ideas he had" existed allready and were allready patened years before, he just managed to get them to sell at the right time and he trully understood the customer experience.
Fassbender was fantastic!
Wow, Ashton really transcended the role by making me think he was Fassbender playing Jobs!
The only thing worse than Steve Jobs is Apple customers.
It is debatable between the customers and people saying „Apple went downhill after Jobs died”.
Of course they are 😒
@@penalozaur and yet, modern Apple is exactly what Jobs tried to create his entire career.
One extra (good thing) about this movie: the music used on some scenes (for example, the “reveal” of the plan for the next computer merging with apple OS) is great
I remember being shocked to find out no one seemed to have enjoyed this movie as much as I did. Glad to hear The Drinker holds it in high regard (and included my favorite shot from the film!)
Sucks to see such a great actor like Michael Fassbender wasted in shitty x-men movies
and other shitty movies like Assasins Creed, Prometheus and Alien: Covenant
He really is the shining light in every movie he's in.
He was excellent in first class and days of future past
Michael Fassbender is back!
Staring as Michael Fassbender talking to Michael Fassbender about Michael Fassbender. In the new blockbuster movie.
Michael Fassbender.
Written & Directed by Michael Fassbender.
@The Monster Under Your Bed Yeah, I don´t agree with Drinker this time. This movie is a waste as well. Michael´s talent agent sucks. But I guess it´s hard because it is pure miracle to find a good movie in a last decade.
Mr. Drinker, have you ever watched "Pirates of Silicon Valley"?! It's very interesting to hear your thoughts on it, cause I think it definitely deserves an episode of "Extra shots" 🤔
The best Apple movie that went directly to tv
The only movie that ever came close to accurately portraying both Jobs and Gates is "Pirates of Silicon Valley" (1999). I'm speaking as a computer scientist who's been invested in the game since before we stopped using floppy disks, COM ports and the ISA bus. The script is as close to the truth as you will ever see. It's pretty much a documentary. And it's more entertaining than you'd think.
I had to give you a thumbs up just for your intro - how true!
I see Shoe0nhead's alter ego got into that compilation of "edgy teens" lmfao
funny she has become exactly that meme character now.
I never liked her, so it's way funnier to me
Steve Jobs: The man who thought he was the smartest person in a room full of cancer specialist doctors, and paid for his hubris
@4Freedom4All Yup. With all his money though - he would have access to the best healthcare and treatments not available to other 'lesser beings'. He might well have lived, if only for a while longer.
To be such a narcisist that you think you can make cancer bend to your whims is his most impressive feat - as others have pointed out; most of the other stuff acreditted to him was ripped off from others and repacked as his...
@4Freedom4All
"Vision"
You're fired, you'll never work here again! - Steve Jobs to a guy who was in an elevator with him who never worked for him.
What a magnificent piece of critic my dear Drunkard
Year 2021:
A good movie
Hollywood : What is that ? Does it involve money? How much can we make?
The biggest issue with this film - it contains 100% too much Seth Rogen.
@The Monster Under Your Bed He's a J.
Steve Jobs is like Colonel Tom Parker. Elvis was the show, but without The Colonel, Elvis would have spent his life as an undiscovered talent who was really good at Karaoke Night at the senior center.
Talented people can invent world-changing things, but without the Steve Jobs of the world, that technology would never leave the lab. The world needs imaginative salesmen.
I worked with NEXTs on text recognition in the 90s. They were amazing computers.
There's this elitism in both apple fans and apple haters which I despise, and although it's not a movie review, you could totally make a great vid on that. How people would blindly defend corporations that don't care about em (be it Apple or Samsung or Google) just because they own that particular product. And how apple managed to turn itself into a status symbol for hipsters and instathots.
one of my favorites is the idiots who pretend to hate the system and sport all sorts of 'smash capitalism' bullshit while using Apple phones, sipping on their sbux mocha lattes and posting their idiocy on giant social media platforms.
@@fauxshowyo and wear Guy Fawkes masks.
@@fauxshowyo you’re reaching
Apple is one of those things like Starbucks, where if someone tells me they buy their stuff, I instantly lose a little respect for them
That's one of those wanna-be-edgy, wildly generalizing statements, that when I hear them, instantly makes me think the person giving them is kind of a cunt.
@@roverrange3674 agreed
@@roverrange3674 *"wanna-be-edgy"* Then proceeds to imply the OP is a 'cunt' for a fairly innocuous statement. Yeah....
Same here. Especially for those who "need" to get a new iphone whener the newest "generation" is available.
One of the problems of modern society is that most people are uninformed and ignorant as consumers. The girl with the "smash capitalism" sticker on her Apple notebook and the Starbucks drink is a good example for that. Most people are too lazy to think or they're willfully blind to how what they buy and what they boycott could change a lot for the better on this planet. I guess brainwashing and some kind of peer pressure might also play a part in that story.
@@roverrange3674 Pot. Kettle. Black.
quote: "you wont make $1 without paying me 99 cents first!!!!"
Jobs
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@@voodoochile333 this is a famous line Jobs said to Gates after Jobs found out Gates stoll his ideas when he made Windows.
Never seen this! Thanks for the recommendation Drinker!
Having seen both the biopics that were made following Jobs' death, I'm personally far more partial to the Jobs movie with Ashton Kutcher and Josh Gad.
that's a good movie - and you see the bad side of Steve a lot more in it. Plus Ashton Kutcher is one of those few actors who isn't total garbage (tho I think he's not really involved in hollywood these days and pretty devoted to his anti trafficking advocacy and what not). The Walter Isaacson biography that I think the movie probably used as source material is a fantastic read if you're interested - I'd recommend it to anyone regardless of how they feel about Steve Jobs - just objectively as a person he and the story of the rise of Apple is fascinating.
@@fauxshowyo I know the Walter Isaacson biography was used as basis for the Fassbender bio, it may or may not have been used for the Kutcher biography as well, I don't know on that front.
But yeah, the Isaacson biography is definitely a good read, I bought it shortly after its release and had finished it well before the release of either of these two movies. It does a good job capturing both the good and bad of Jobs and I think it's important to note that Jobs made a point of removing himself from the process even after getting Isaacson to do the job for the express purpose of ensuring Isaacson's biography would be as honest a picture of Jobs as possible.
Apple hardly invented anything.... They just bought it up, put it behind their barb-wired garden and sold it for an inflated price. It was a good film though
@4Freedom4All yes you make some good points you can't argue that the business model isn't successful and that combining iTunes with the iPod was certainly genius.
Will have to check this one out.
I really appreciate that you review and enjoy different film genres. Well done.
Haven't seen the movie, as it's not my thing. But it did look stylish. Of course, with Fassbender, I assume there is a lot of good.
I do wonder if people should look back at the popularity of the iPod and the massive upsurge in music piracy that seemed to happen at a coincidental time.
Napster and Livewire happened before the release of the iPod. I would argue that iTunes built the foundation for purchasing music across platforms (and also gave purchasers the ability to download the original music files so that may be what you mean). But by no means did the iPod cause music piracy itself; today’s subscription models are based loosely off the roll out of monthly charges on Apple services.
I agree it didn't cause the issue. No single thing causes issues as complex as that. But I think you're discounting the effect of migrating a large section of users to one platform and service-especially given the range of ipods that were out when the market became more saturated.
Michael Fassbender would be my main reason to watch this movie not Jobs.
yea that is why I watched it. really great performance
Had no interest before but anything the wonderful Drinker likes,I will happily watch!
He went on to become a magnetic supervillain. Full circle really
Great film. Apart from the bits Seth Rogan ruins.
He was another Thomas Edison who screwed many Teslas.
Maybe. Probably. Fun fact, the Xerox tech he walked away with, Xerox big wigs got bunches of APPL stock dumped in their laps. It never made it to Xerox balance sheet. I bet there's a lot of shit like that goes on and the stockholders get screwed. Not that Xerox would know what to do with it the tech anyway. All this shit goes back to PARC.
Forgot about this flick.
When I get off the porcelain thrown, I shall sequester my personal movies servant (Amazon Prime/Netflix/Plex) & watch this gem once again!
Dude! I love your critiques. You make me want to watch movies again.