LMS Black 5 44806, WHAT A MACHINE!!!!

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  • Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
  • Santa Special at NYMR hauled by LMS Black 5 44806 and Class 25 D7628, filmed at Grosmont and Goathland 23rd December 2023
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Комментарии • 286

  • @MrSolodriver
    @MrSolodriver Год назад +45

    Steam engines are noisy, dirty, inefficient, polluting magnificent monsters. And I absolutely adore them!! Great video btw.

    • @annbeirne9583
      @annbeirne9583 Год назад +4

      Prefer steam to the stink of diesel, and I adore them too😊💖

    • @svensvensen8406
      @svensvensen8406 Год назад

      Drop "magnificent" from the description and you have a perfect description of the person attempting to steal back America's Whitehouse. VOTE BLUE!

    • @JamesFolkers
      @JamesFolkers Год назад

      @@annbeirne9583And what exactly are they burning to create the heat needed to create the steam?

    • @PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars
      @PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars Год назад +1

      @JamesFolkers: Well it certainly isn't diesel! You clearly know nothing about rail steam traction!

    • @MrFsandt
      @MrFsandt 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@JamesFolkers
      Carvão! 🔥👍

  • @Kevin-mx1vi
    @Kevin-mx1vi Год назад +26

    I love black 5s. Brings back childhood memories of my granny taking me to the nearby railway line and the drivers waving at me as they passed. 😊

    • @leecarlson9713
      @leecarlson9713 Год назад +2

      My grandmother’s home in Eau Claire, WI, USA, was one removed from the tracks. We would stand at the end of her driveway, and wave to the engineers as they went past. I was such a regular, they always waved back at me! Good memories from my very early childhood 😁

  • @terencebennison6275
    @terencebennison6275 Год назад +7

    Grew up with black fives, my favourite loco. Never saw one as clean as this., they always had their work clothes on!

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад +1

      Beautiful aren’t they 👍

  • @citylimits8927
    @citylimits8927 Год назад +46

    As an American who enjoys vintage trains, that ride through the Yorkshire countryside powered by that vintage locomotive looks like a very scenic and picturesque ride! I’m glad to see that Britain treasures its railway history as much as we Americans treasure our railroad (that’s what we call them in the States) history!

    • @Dreadtower
      @Dreadtower Год назад +6

      Yeah. And from here I’ve enjoyed watching videos posted by your heritage railways too.

    • @DennisSibson
      @DennisSibson Год назад +4

      The journey from Pickering through the moors is quite surprising picturesque it may be but there are areas that could be from the Wild West! There is no sign of civilisation at all, except close to the permanent way, well worth a trip just for the view of a land untouched.

    • @ronniebiggs4026
      @ronniebiggs4026 Год назад

      Glad you enjoyed it dude because the rest of the country is a 3rd world shithole

    • @AllenORourke1954
      @AllenORourke1954 Год назад +6

      From 1825 into the 1830's over here in the UK they were called railroads, where I live in the north east of England we had "The Stanhope & Tyne Railroad Company" which opened a line in 1834 past where I live, the term "railway" I believe came about during what was known here as the "railway mania" period from the 1840's when the rail companies had to pay landowners what was known as a "way leave" to cross their land, hence the term "railway" became the norm...

    • @acescionti711
      @acescionti711 Год назад +1

      Unfortunately. As a fellow rail fan and steam locomotive enthusiast. I’ve found that. In fact. America does not love its rail history as much as the UK does There are a great many reasons for why I’ve come to this conclusion. And if you wish to know them I’d be happy to lay them out at a later time. But as for now. I’m pretty sure the English know what America calls its railways lol. Railway and railroad are like. Beginner 101 stuff. And if this channel was still in the starting stages then it wouldn’t have nearly as many locomotive videos on it

  • @roysimmons3549
    @roysimmons3549 Год назад +20

    Black Fives. Superb mixed traffic locomotives.

  • @stuwalton1284
    @stuwalton1284 Год назад +3

    Another excellent steam video, literally!

  • @stevecurd3944
    @stevecurd3944 Год назад +4

    fantastic footage,ive got a Hornby Black 5 from a trainset i used to have in the early 70's with its originally stock carriages,a beautiful engine & sits on display with my Hornby Oliver Cromwell from the 70's,thankgod these beautiful engines are kept alive

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад +2

      I couldn’t agree more, i absolutely love them, I model O gauge and I wish there was an affordable model in the scale.

  • @nickkaye176
    @nickkaye176 Год назад +5

    The black five was a work horse of the steam locos. Used to love standing on a bridge when a steam loco went underneath. Great smell and a lovely black face to go with it. Lol.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад +1

      Best memories

    • @bahoonies
      @bahoonies 11 месяцев назад +2

      @nickkaye176 Me too. I loved being enveloped by smoke and that special smell as I stood on the footbridge. Then I'd go home for lunch and my mother would say, "You've been watching the trains again." "How did you know, Mum?" The reply was usually "Go and look at your face in the mirror and give it a good wash." Wonderful, happy, boyhood memories.

  • @chriswaring5565
    @chriswaring5565 9 месяцев назад +2

    CAN'T BEAT THE SIGHT SOUNDS AND THE SMELL OF STEAM LOCOMOTIVES PURE NOSTALGIA

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  9 месяцев назад

      You’re not wrong at all 👌

  • @lesteraizlewood8457
    @lesteraizlewood8457 Год назад +5

    Impressive!

  • @davestubbs7274
    @davestubbs7274 Год назад +4

    Wow, I used to work on 44806 back in the 1980's when it was moved from Southport to the Museum of Science and Industry in Manchester. Back then it was named 'Magpie', and was regularly seen in Thames TV's kids show 'Magpie'

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад +1

      You’ll be happy to see her back up and running 👍

  • @michaelstansfield3085
    @michaelstansfield3085 Год назад +2

    Sorry, forgot to mention, great video. Much appreciated thank you

  • @GeraldKershaw-f3m
    @GeraldKershaw-f3m Год назад +1

    The Dragon enters the mouth of hell ! With a twist in the tail. 😂 All great fun ( as the love of steam should be ! 👍

  • @richardbaldwin9502
    @richardbaldwin9502 Год назад +2

    First time viewer really enjoyed the video looking forward to more thank you

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      Many thanks Richard, welcome.

  • @keithalexander3386
    @keithalexander3386 6 месяцев назад +1

    As a train spotter in the 50s I used to take little notice of black fives. There were so many of them. Today they look beautiful. A former driver once told me he could get 90mph out of a black five. Excellent machines.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  6 месяцев назад

      @@keithalexander3386 they are beautiful machines and sound fantastic too.

    • @derekambler
      @derekambler 5 месяцев назад +1

      Black Five on the 7-10pm from St. Pancras to Nottingham I timed at 90MPH down the hill from Ampthill to Bedford in the 1950's.

  • @Tauraco00
    @Tauraco00 Год назад +2

    Nice Kevs. Merry Christmas to you and yours🎉. All the Best for the New Year🎉🎉🎉

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      Thank you and Merry Christmas to you and yours too, have a good one and all the best 🎉🎉

  • @MrMoggyman
    @MrMoggyman 5 месяцев назад +3

    My uncle Percy, a mainline top link driver on the LMS, swore by Black Five locos. 'Gimme a Black Five any day instead of a Princess Royal Class (PRC). The Black Five can crap all over a PRC in terms of driving and firing. PRC's are the biggest heap of scrap ever devised by the LMS. Poor steaming heaps of junk that you have to work your back off to keep moving along the track.' His repertoire had included Patriot, Jubilee, Royal Scot, but mainly Princess Coronation Class (PCC) locomotives on turns out of Euston on the West Coast Mainline Route. His career had included firing PCC locomotives with full streamlining way back in the 1930's. I knew him as a lad back in 1964 in the twilight of his career. Interesting as both my grandfathers were 45 year enginemen driver veterans of the GCR/LNER/BR, one uncle became a senior instructor at BR later driving 4000 Kestrel, and three other uncles were firemen on the LNER/BR. When uncle Percy visited there always was the usual discursive rivalry between LMS and LNER enginemen concerning locomotives. The smell of steam locomotives. How I miss it. It is in my blood. The line to Shirebrook Colliery was only about 400 feet from where I lived, and there was a disused station. I was always around the steam locomotives, and they were always around me in my youth. I miss them.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  5 месяцев назад

      @@MrMoggyman they are absolutely fantastic machines.

    • @MrMoggyman
      @MrMoggyman 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@KevsTrains I totally agree. Nothing sounds, smells, looks like a steam locomotive. For me steam is in my blood. My ancestors lived for the steam locomotive engineman life, because that is what it was. It was not a job, but rather a way of life.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  5 месяцев назад

      @@MrMoggyman you’ve hit the nail on the head there.

  • @69waveydavey
    @69waveydavey 10 месяцев назад +5

    Greetings from Lostock Hall, can we have it back? Black Fives Matter.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  10 месяцев назад

      Greetings back and no you can’t 😂😂

  • @ЛЬВИНИ
    @ЛЬВИНИ Год назад +1

    Nice video, likes from me.

  • @ridefreeuk
    @ridefreeuk Год назад +7

    One of the reasons we moved to Pickering at the other end of the line. We get the train through Grossmont where this video starts and on to Whitby regularly during the summer.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад +3

      Beautiful area 👍

    • @prestoncrewnarrowboaters8619
      @prestoncrewnarrowboaters8619 2 месяца назад

      I went to lady lumleys school from the age of 12 3/4 as we moved to Thornton Dale,always loved hearing the trains leave the station

  • @alan_mythicalgnome
    @alan_mythicalgnome Год назад +3

    I love the black fives.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад +1

      They are a fantastic locomotive

  • @jimmyjam4371
    @jimmyjam4371 Год назад +2

    What a beast!

  • @TheClockwise770
    @TheClockwise770 Год назад +1

    Excellent video, thank you Considering that Crompton was helping , I cannot see why he needed that amount of steam pressure.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      Thank you for your kind words

  • @GiordanDiodato
    @GiordanDiodato 3 месяца назад +1

    "Once an engine attached to a train
    was afraid of a few drops of rain
    He went through a tunnel
    and squeaked through his funnel
    and he never came out again"

  • @peterheath9002
    @peterheath9002 11 месяцев назад +2

    starts with diesel at rear then it's on the front then black 5 is on the rear running backwards! what is gong on?

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  11 месяцев назад

      It’s very simple, it departs along the section of line to where it stops, the diesel engine then pulls it back.

    • @peterheath9002
      @peterheath9002 11 месяцев назад

      @@KevsTrains that explains nothing! where abouts do the locos change position? for instance?

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  11 месяцев назад

      @@peterheath9002 the locos don’t change position, that’s why one minute the steam loco is leading, then the next the diesel is. They leave Grosmont station with the steam loco leading and the diesel on the rear, it gets to its destination, where the diesel loco then tows it back to Grosmont station, which is why the diesel is then on the front and the steam loco is on the rear. Hope that makes it more clear for you.

    • @peterheath9002
      @peterheath9002 11 месяцев назад

      @@KevsTrains not really!

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  11 месяцев назад

      @@peterheath9002 what aren’t you understanding?

  • @bobcannell7603
    @bobcannell7603 Год назад +3

    And the little original G Stephenson horse railway tunnel pre steam. This is a Very old line

  • @Utubearchy
    @Utubearchy Год назад +2

    Jumping to the 4:20 mark you can see a set of catch points on the left track at the entrance/exit of the tunnel. Why are there catch points at that location and why are the points oriented to affect movements going out of the tunnel? Just curious.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад +1

      That line runs up to the depot, I’m guessing the catch points are set in case of any runaways which would stop them going over the crossing and through the station.

  • @Hard-Boiled-Bollock
    @Hard-Boiled-Bollock Год назад +1

    Welcome back sleeping beauty

  • @RobinMcKinlay
    @RobinMcKinlay 3 месяца назад +2

    It looks like a con. The crew of the Black 5 were completely unsighted when the train moved off over the level crossing with venting steam and clearly the Class 25 was operating under load as it entered the tunnel. Fantastic bit of stage craft.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  3 месяца назад

      @@RobinMcKinlay the Black 5 had just returned to service following complete overhaul, I think they were trying to ease her back in.

  • @danieldonaldson8634
    @danieldonaldson8634 Год назад +6

    My Father, arriving in England in 1949, said the trains looked like toys to him and he was there to work on the Deltic design team at Napier, from Canada. I see what he meant. Adorable. Probably would be a better look if the steam unit was at the front of the train....

    • @ianallen8305
      @ianallen8305 Год назад +1

      Like toys maybe for a small island. But perfect presentation not many had the valves and pipes on show like NA loco,s they were also a lot faster than most with high speed lines from the 1930,s on. Did your DD leave any photos from his time with Napier.

  • @stephenselby4252
    @stephenselby4252 Год назад +1

    I used to travel regularly by stream in the Uk. What’s with all the excess steam? Never used to be like that.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад +1

      Believed to protect cylinders following previous damage

  • @EleanorPeterson
    @EleanorPeterson Год назад +1

    "It's ALIVE! Mwah-hah-hah-haaaah!"😁

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      She is

    • @taysaround4780
      @taysaround4780 Год назад +1

      She may have no face like in the RWS, but she is alive, all engines are.

  • @eastwest1362
    @eastwest1362 Год назад +8

    crazy design to blow out all piston steam AHEAD of the loco… blinds driver from seeing ahead !

    • @harri8535
      @harri8535 Год назад +2

      The cylinder cocks are opened to vent water (condensed steam) out from the cylinders after being stationary. They are closed after a while.

    • @bassetdad437
      @bassetdad437 Год назад +7

      I believe in this situation the driver screws his eyes whiile gripping the steering wheel firmly, if anything looms out of the mist he swerves to one side?

  • @Gary-cvr23
    @Gary-cvr23 8 месяцев назад +1

    They have now banned blowing the whistles leaving grosmont witch is stupid really great vid btw

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  8 месяцев назад +1

      Why have they banned it?

    • @Gary-cvr23
      @Gary-cvr23 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@KevsTrains people complaning that its too loud asked if i could blow the whistle he said he would have said yes if it werent for this new rule

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  8 месяцев назад

      @@Gary-cvr23 that is absolutely ridiculous

    • @Gary-cvr23
      @Gary-cvr23 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@KevsTrains i know its sad too

  • @LimeyTX
    @LimeyTX Год назад +1

    I grew up going by steam train from Weymouth to Dorchester in Dorset every day so this was very nostalgic. But why is there also a diesel locomotive at the opposite end of the train?

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад +1

      If you watch the full video, you’ll see the diesel is simply to pull the set back into Grosmont on it return leg as there’s no time to allow for changing ends (running round) in the timetable.

    • @MrDibbsey
      @MrDibbsey Год назад +3

      There's time but not track, the train reverses mid section during santa operation, and pushing the coaches backwards is not permitted with passengers on. @@KevsTrains

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      @@MrDibbsey thank you, didn’t realise there was a loop where they stopped with the Santa specials 👍

    • @MrDibbsey
      @MrDibbsey Год назад +3

      There isn't a loop, thats my point. And because there isn't, you need a loco on the rear to draw the train back down the hill again.@@KevsTrains

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      @@MrDibbsey that’s what thought, that’s why I’ve said about having the loco on the rear for hauling back.

  • @1961kickboxer
    @1961kickboxer 11 месяцев назад +1

    She’s so powerful

  • @robertprice7246
    @robertprice7246 Год назад +1

    How in the name of Westminster Abbey did the driver see where he was going ?

  • @danielvanrooyen2785
    @danielvanrooyen2785 Год назад +4

    Finally, at 13:20, a view of the steam locomotive pulling the train. Also a rather disappointing start with the steam locomotive hidden in a cloud of steam. Pity!

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      All part of it 👍

    • @055deltic
      @055deltic Год назад +1

      @@KevsTrains Not so, some use of the ejectors when starting is good practice - lap and lead steam, not lap and lead water! But look at any original footage from BR steam days and this release was kept to a minimum. Poor fireman didn't want all his hard work vented!
      My grandad was a driver at Polmadie depot and he told us how they were all trained and observed not to be exhausting smoke or steam unnecessarily.
      Perhaps current drivers think it is atmospheric or romantic to have the loco enveloped in clouds of steam? But its certainly not good practice

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      @@055deltic I agree, I understand the need to clear water etc to protect cylinders, my dad was ex BR steam fireman and driver, maybe preservation railways do it to keep damage to a minimum due to repair costs.

  • @iandocwra1169
    @iandocwra1169 11 месяцев назад +2

    Not really sure why the hype "Hellfire" and "Deafening" are used here - pretty standard sounds from the 'Five' - if anything rather muted compared to many performances I've witnessed.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  11 месяцев назад

      Unfortunately the camera microphone muted the sound compared to what it actually was, hence the, as you say ‘hype’.

  • @hhottechnologies2651
    @hhottechnologies2651 Год назад +9

    You are supposed to blow out the cylinder drains before you move off.

    • @jackdavidson2612
      @jackdavidson2612 Год назад

      Yes, to start, the regulator has to be opened. This is generally when the taps are closed.

    • @MrDibbsey
      @MrDibbsey Год назад +1

      How would you do that when the steam only enters one side of the piston at any one time?

  • @bahoonies
    @bahoonies 11 месяцев назад +2

    What's that, Mum? It's Rudolph the red-nosed train, dear.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  11 месяцев назад

      Great for the kids 👍

    • @bahoonies
      @bahoonies 11 месяцев назад +2

      @KevsTrains Absolutely. And for 71 year old kids like myself lol. Getting children interested in steam locomotives is so important for the future of these wonderful, living, breathing machines. I have loved steam since I was a very small boy.

  • @rudycarlson8245
    @rudycarlson8245 Год назад +1

    Is this engine, Eric Tracy? I know it says Rudolph in the video, but it looks awfully familiar!

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      No, this is 44806 which has just completed overhaul and brought back into service.

    • @rudycarlson8245
      @rudycarlson8245 Год назад +1

      @@KevsTrains thanks for the info

  • @stevemumbling7720
    @stevemumbling7720 10 месяцев назад +1

    How do they get that fantastic finish on the loco, is it sprayed or brushed on?

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  10 месяцев назад

      Normally brushed on

    • @stevemumbling7720
      @stevemumbling7720 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@KevsTrains Wow! True craftsmen. Thanks Kev.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  10 месяцев назад

      @@stevemumbling7720 very welcome

  • @lennyhendricks4628
    @lennyhendricks4628 Год назад +1

    did the UK ever have any automatic stokers?

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      Not that I’m aware of, but I may be wrong.

    • @lennyhendricks4628
      @lennyhendricks4628 Год назад +1

      @@KevsTrains-- thanks.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      @@lennyhendricks4628 No problem at all

    • @bassetdad437
      @bassetdad437 Год назад

      I think only 3 of the BR Standard 9Fs had mechanical stokers with archimedean screws. They were not really effective/economical for british operating conditions.

  • @brianeynon5406
    @brianeynon5406 Год назад +3

    Lovely sulzer engine note at the end .

  • @claudevieaul1465
    @claudevieaul1465 Год назад +1

    01:57 Did someone say "Dracarys"? 🤣

  • @micealhome6363
    @micealhome6363 Месяц назад +1

    Why all the steam at track level?

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Месяц назад

      @@micealhome6363 drain cocks

  • @eddjordan2399
    @eddjordan2399 Год назад +1

    why the diesel on the back new safety thing?

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      It’s to haul the stock back to save running the steam loco round

  • @stephencope7178
    @stephencope7178 Год назад +5

    Why has it now become the norm to empty half of the boiler before starting off and depriving the cylinders of oil?

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      Really don’t know, on the second run they weren’t opened at all

    • @gainsbourg66
      @gainsbourg66 Год назад +2

      It's a growing fashion - which could prove dangerous in the long run. The driver's view of the track ahead is completely obscured, and there could be a foolish tourist wandering around, or other obstruction.

    • @mattlander9119
      @mattlander9119 Год назад +2

      If it's the first time of the day the cylinders will be cold so *maybe (I don't know) it's railway rules to do so

    • @MrDibbsey
      @MrDibbsey Год назад +2

      @@KevsTrains Not needeed as by then the loco had warmed up.

    • @MrDibbsey
      @MrDibbsey Год назад +3

      @@gainsbourg66 It's not a fashion it's good practice to prevent damage to a cold engine.

  • @josephinebennington7247
    @josephinebennington7247 Год назад

    Right from the opening “Please mind the gap…”. When there was a real gap to mind.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      Have I missed something?

    • @josephinebennington7247
      @josephinebennington7247 Год назад

      @@KevsTrains Yes.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      @@josephinebennington7247 what is it?

    • @josephinebennington7247
      @josephinebennington7247 Год назад +1

      @@KevsTrains. Up to 0.05 the huge gap for passengers to cope with between platform and footstep! “Mind the Gap” is now a cynical joke phrase to many rail passengers.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      @@josephinebennington7247 I’m with you now 😂😂

  • @simon-oy6um
    @simon-oy6um Год назад +4

    Oh the days when a train journey was a special event 😊

  • @jimwinsor8938
    @jimwinsor8938 11 месяцев назад +1

    Still use the semaphore over there I see.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  11 месяцев назад

      Mainly on heritage lines, however a few mainlines do still have them.

  • @michaeltaylor1869
    @michaeltaylor1869 Год назад +1

    Nice video Kev very good camera work as usual I am really enjoying your lovely videos and camera work keep your lovely camera work up I am really looking forward to seeing your next video I hope you get a nice video next time also when is your next video going to be on RUclips also a merry Christmas and a happy new year to you best wishes Philip xx

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      Thank you Philip, the next video will be later today, Merry Christmas and a happy new year too 🎉

  • @gilesellis8002
    @gilesellis8002 11 месяцев назад +1

    Where can one apply for Special Effects Manager ?

  • @jonsteadisno1
    @jonsteadisno1 Год назад +4

    In my younger days, Stanier 5MTs and 8Fs used to be "ten a penny," and we would barely give them a second glance unless it was a previously or rarely seen visitor. These days, I find that I go out of my way to see one. I know that the NER had a love of signalling and would erect one to cover just about any possible manoeuvre. But the NYMR seems to get a little carried away. 😊

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад +1

      The 5MT is probably my favourite steam loco along with the 9F.

    • @jonsteadisno1
      @jonsteadisno1 Год назад +1

      @KevsTrains My favourites will remain the ones that I remember the best. The Thompson B1, K1, Gresley V2, and of course, the Robinson 2.8.0 variants were mainstays of my youth. I have particular affection for K1, no.62005, which was saved by the NELPG and a long-time NYMR resident. It was based at Leeds for many years, and so, I saw it regularly in the 60s.

  • @peterthornton8520
    @peterthornton8520 Год назад +1

    Only saw the LMSBLACK pull the Train a short distance.Then the Pusher took over, Why didnt the LMS go the whole distance.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад +2

      When did this happen Peter, she was pulling all day yesterday up to the summit then the Class 25 pulling back from the summit to Grosmont.

    • @mattlander9119
      @mattlander9119 Год назад +2

      The diesel may be assisting slightly because the steam locos has just returned from overhaul so reducing the load a bit so it runs in more gently.

  • @grahamhall8249
    @grahamhall8249 Год назад +5

    I'm sure that some drivers deliberately put that much steam out so that you can't video them!

    • @gainsbourg66
      @gainsbourg66 Год назад +1

      It's pretentious. Happening too often lately.

  • @michaelstansfield3085
    @michaelstansfield3085 Год назад +4

    I spent hundreds of hours watching steam engines set off and there were never clouds of steam ejected ahead like this. Is it some new phenomena?

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      I don’t know why it’s done to be honest

    • @keithtanner2806
      @keithtanner2806 Год назад

      It has become an unnecessary ritual across the UK - along with the infernal “dangling diesel” 👿

    • @davidtalbot941
      @davidtalbot941 Год назад +6

      It's necessary to open the cylinder cocks, but the current trend seems to be to do so for far longer than actually required. I suppose that it is supposed to look "spectacular", but what actually happens is that it hides the locomotive at the time when it is working hardest and so would look quite spectacular anyway.

    • @michaelstansfield3085
      @michaelstansfield3085 Год назад +4

      @@davidtalbot941
      Thanks David, I suspected it was 'for show'. Agree, it does detract from overall effect.

    • @Jag-Soft
      @Jag-Soft Год назад +4

      I was told once it’s because they end up sat around for long periods of time. specially in colder weather (or like now where it was being pulled back by diesel) cylinders cool down a lot more then they would in normal service so water builds up a lot faster. Keeping them open longer heats it all back up again so no risk of water damaging anything.

  • @gilesellis8002
    @gilesellis8002 Год назад +2

    travelling through England, Scotland, France, Switzerlandand Italy through the 50's 60's 70's None of the Engines DROWNED in Steam before Leaving, but now they Do ?
    even at 12.35 - 14.18, makes you wonder who's editing ?

  • @user-AZ-phil
    @user-AZ-phil 11 месяцев назад +1

    I have to chuckle at people who complain about a locomotive making a lot of steam as it passes by a throng of fans who have come out to see it run! This is no longer a "working" locomotive! There are no longer "pencil pusher" corporate accountants to throw a "hissy fit" about the waste of coal. This is now a "fan" locomotive, and "wasting" coal on producing extra steam to thrill the fans means more fans, more folks that will want to ride behind it, and more money in the coffers to keep it running. If you can't understand the philosophy behind keeping such a beautiful piece of machinery running, go talk to a young child who is watching, spellbound, as she rumbles by!❤😂

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  11 месяцев назад

      Absolutely fantastic words 👍👍

  • @steamgent4592
    @steamgent4592 Год назад +1

    Oh wow they got Magpie back online quickly. Now Your Marriage is Ruined didn’t waste any time! Those men lived up to their name for sure! 😂😂😂😂 Nigel Harris will be happy it’s his favorite locomotive

  • @RobinFryer-n7h
    @RobinFryer-n7h Год назад +1

    It’s done to blow out any excessive water lifted over, which could threaten to blow off a cylinder cover, break a cylinder or bend a rod. HOWEVER, in steam days, I recollect that the cocks, which were open when the locomotive was standing for a while, were closed much sooner than is customary now.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      Yes, left open for quite a long time now.

  • @84com83
    @84com83 Год назад +1

    Is the last "wagon" an asissting diesel?

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      Class 25 diesel loco on the rear, used for pulling the train back.

  • @orgcoast5990
    @orgcoast5990 Год назад +1

    I love the old steamers. Having the DE grab them around spoils the image.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      I know what you mean

    • @bassetdad437
      @bassetdad437 Год назад +2

      The diesel on the back is not there to annoy you, it is there as the Santa Special trains go from Grosmont to Fen Bog which lacks run round facilities. The simplest way to operate is to have a loco at each end of the train, steam loco pulls out, diesel loco takes the train back to Grosmont.

  • @keithspillett5298
    @keithspillett5298 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great video, but suggest you don't 'pump' the zoom so much

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  11 месяцев назад

      Just trying to get the best shots, otherwise you’re looking at something in the distance 👍

  • @GenX-Gamore
    @GenX-Gamore Год назад +1

    Like the video, But what is very distracting, the wind on the mic, While I don''t know what your using to record this video, I suggest you get a dead cat on the mic aka wind sock, if it's cell phone, I suggest getting a camera like NX 500 yes and old but good camera with a boom mic, there are plenty at a good price similar to the NX series mirrorless cameras.

  • @johnfraser4675
    @johnfraser4675 Год назад +1

    Such a shame its not in LMS livery

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад +2

      There is another one there in LMS livery, if you watch my other videos you’ll see her working hard.

  • @andysnashall6140
    @andysnashall6140 Год назад +3

    Such a shame the green cupboard was growling on the rear!

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      Still nice to see them working though

  • @gainsbourg66
    @gainsbourg66 Год назад +2

    Hope BR number will be restored. I don't like visiting heritage railways and seeing engines with names and numbers that mean nothing to those who remember them from BR days. I believe that far more heritage railway visitors are drawn in when this is the case.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад +1

      Smoke box door is displaying 44806 so I believe this will be what the cab sides display also.

    • @mattlander9119
      @mattlander9119 Год назад +3

      It's just returned from overhaul so isn't fully painted. Either they planned to use it during the Christmas season like this or had to use it because another loco failed.

  • @MrAndysoul
    @MrAndysoul Год назад +1

    Shame the cab numbers were missing

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      Won’t be long till they’re back on

  • @malcolmabram2957
    @malcolmabram2957 Год назад +1

    From this video it appears the diesel did most if the haulage. Presume 44806 stopped working. Shame. Love steam engines.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад +1

      Steam hauled one way, diesel hauled back, 44806 worked perfectly all day.

    • @malcolmabram2957
      @malcolmabram2957 Год назад +1

      @@KevsTrains Thanks for the explanation. I read that most steam pulled trains today, including the USA, are required to have a diesel back-up in case of breakdown.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      @@malcolmabram2957 ah yes, that’s for mainline work, this line is a heritage line, preservation if you don’t know it,

    • @malcolmabram2957
      @malcolmabram2957 Год назад +1

      @@KevsTrains Thank you.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      @@malcolmabram2957 you’re welcome

  • @loco42041
    @loco42041 5 месяцев назад +1

    Unnecessary taps open??

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  5 месяцев назад

      @@loco42041 that’s what many have said

  • @gramps6718
    @gramps6718 Год назад +1

    I only saw the diesel😢

  • @daigriffiths399
    @daigriffiths399 Год назад +1

    My last steam-hauled trip on British Rail was Wolverhampton Central to Blackpool on a day trip in 1963. My young memory gives me a 4-6-0 and my adult knowledge says the size indicates a 5F, but I guess it could have been a 4F/4P. The run home was behind a diesel (Deltic?). I was NOT amused 😆

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      But what great memories non the less.

    • @philipbradshaw4050
      @philipbradshaw4050 Год назад +1

      Sorry to be pedantic, but station would be Wolverhampton High Level and the diesel would be a Class 40. That was my era.!

    • @daigriffiths399
      @daigriffiths399 Год назад

      @@philipbradshaw4050 Thank you!

    • @jackdavidson2612
      @jackdavidson2612 Год назад +1

      The Black 5 is a mixed traffic engine and. would generally have just a 5 or 5MT On the cab side,

  • @rodperrin2713
    @rodperrin2713 11 месяцев назад +1

    Absolutely no need to keep the taps open for that length of time. Any steam that had evaporated would be long gone in second.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  11 месяцев назад

      I think everyone is in agreement with that

  • @sussexflyer6156
    @sussexflyer6156 Год назад +1

    How is the engine-driver supposed to view signals ahead with that mass of steam obscuring his view !!!!!

    • @MrDibbsey
      @MrDibbsey Год назад +1

      The taps are closed after a short while, the driver knows where the signals are so will make sure they can be seen when neccesary.

    • @bassetdad437
      @bassetdad437 Год назад

      @@MrDibbsey Yes, in this case the driver can cleary see the starter at Grosmont station and the taps will be closed approaching Deviation shed so the next signal will be perfectly visible.

  • @LordDustinDeWynd
    @LordDustinDeWynd Год назад +1

    04:02 A diesel pushing the train? No wonder they blew down the tanks leaving the station, they didn't NEED any steam since it's a non-functional steamer!

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      Diesel isn’t pushing.

    • @LordDustinDeWynd
      @LordDustinDeWynd Год назад

      @@KevsTrains Not being towed, can hear generators ticking over & generating power. If not for motive power, why is it there?

    • @bassetdad437
      @bassetdad437 Год назад

      @@LordDustinDeWynd To bring the train back from Fen Bog. The steam loco pulls the train on the outward leg, the diesel pulls the train back to Grosmont.

    • @LordDustinDeWynd
      @LordDustinDeWynd Год назад

      @@bassetdad437 The steamer is unable to run backwards? Bummer. No wonder it's not still being used.

  • @MrPDawes
    @MrPDawes Год назад +1

    Seemed to be losing a lot of steam there.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      Yeah, a rather large blow off.

  • @bfcmik
    @bfcmik 11 месяцев назад +1

    Why do drivers seem to use the cylinder cocks so much nowadays? They didn't keep them open for so long until fairly recently. I wonder if it is the retirement of the older generation of drivers retiring that has caused the change? A few seconds should be all that is required to clear the cylinders..
    They should remember they are in the entertainment industry and hiding the engine behind clouds of steam deprives the viewing/paying public.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  11 месяцев назад

      Apparently it’s due to less maintenance than in BR days so it’s for protecting the cylinders as much as possible.

  • @keithtanner2806
    @keithtanner2806 Год назад +3

    Why the masses of steam? It isn’t necessary, it has become a fad!😳

    • @bassetdad437
      @bassetdad437 Год назад

      It was necessary and not a fad. That loco was not warmed through and had condensate in its steam circuit. To clear the condensate the loco has to move with the drain cocks open. By the time it got to the other end of the tunnel the condensate was cleared out and the cocks closed.

    • @keithtanner2806
      @keithtanner2806 11 месяцев назад

      I fully understand that. I have driven steam in service but nowadays it is frequently both unnecessary and/or excessive.
      Just look around 4896 on here, it is blowing off for several minutes completely wasting steam. Incompetent firing failing to anticipate what is needed.

  • @petergaskin1811
    @petergaskin1811 Год назад +1

    I'm sorry to have to tell you, but Black Fives whilst, no doubt, splendid examples of steam powered locomotives are quaint, old-fashioned and awfully inefficient. There are such things as Electric Locomotives and Electric Multiple Units which can easily outpace any steam locomotive with none of the noise, painfully slow acceleration, and dust-laden fumes associated with them. I would far sooner see a BLS Re465 in action any steam engine.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      Nooooo, you can’t say that, steam engines have personality characteristics and all round beautiful, I agree some ‘diesel’ locomotives are fantastic too.

  • @andydunbar3205
    @andydunbar3205 Год назад +1

    What a shambles when it first set off, never would you see a steam engine set off like that in British rail days, and if you did the crew would probably be told never to do that again.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад +1

      I agree, it seems to be common place in preservation these days to blow off loads of steam.

    • @bassetdad437
      @bassetdad437 Год назад +1

      In BR days a loco setting off with its train would have travelled some distance from shed to station travelling with cocks open to clear condensation out. At Grosmont the shed is 1/4 mile from the station so to avoid hydraulic damage a cold engine needs to travel some distance with the cocks open or suffer damage.

  • @pitoxnop
    @pitoxnop Год назад +3

    I have notices how much drain cock clearing there is nowadays is that down to inexperienced drivers?

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      I’m not sure on that one

    • @MrDibbsey
      @MrDibbsey Год назад +2

      No, just care for old machines that we don't want to damage.

    • @bassetdad437
      @bassetdad437 Год назад

      @@MrDibbsey I salute you Mr Dibbsey as one of the few commenjtors on here with a thinking head.

  • @PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars
    @PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars Год назад

    I have to say, I don't think the steam crew were doing a very good job managing the pressure. I've never seen steam blown off to that extent even on a first start! On the second start, with the safety blowing, they really seem to be stuggling!

  • @paulkay1893
    @paulkay1893 11 месяцев назад +1

    Seems to be a lot of wasted steam there.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  11 месяцев назад

      Just a small amount 😂

  • @milehighclassics
    @milehighclassics Год назад +2

    Wind noise

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      That’s what happens when windy and recording on a phone as I don’t have a muffed mic

  • @jackdavidson2612
    @jackdavidson2612 Год назад +1

    Not the action of a driver in the days of steam, unless a primer or a boiler too full.

    • @bassetdad437
      @bassetdad437 Год назад

      It was. In BR days they were able to clear out condensate between coming off shed and reaching the station. At Grosmont there is only 1/4 mile to do it.

  • @stirlingmoss4621
    @stirlingmoss4621 Год назад +1

    an unnecessary display of steam that ruined any photographers and video-ists day out. That driver should be reported for dangerous driving

  • @BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne
    @BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne Год назад +11

    What a shame when steam engine drivers blow off so much steam as they leave. Makes it impossible to see the loco..and lord knows how the driver sees where the train is going or what obstruction might be in front of him/her/it/they/them/ze/zie/zim/zieself/etc/etc

    • @Gokiburi777
      @Gokiburi777 Год назад +12

      Steam condenses into water in the cylinders and water doesn’t compress. If you don’t open the cylinder cocks and provide a way for the water escape, the front of the cylinder will blow off,

    • @EleanorPeterson
      @EleanorPeterson Год назад

      ​@@Gokiburi777- Bah! Details, details... 😁

    • @alvinmorris5404
      @alvinmorris5404 Год назад +3

      Yes it's a unfortunate necessity to bleed off some steam but it became common practice through hard learned experience

    • @bassetdad437
      @bassetdad437 Год назад +2

      It only happened with the first deparure of the day to avoid hydraulic damage, the later departures had the loco thoroughly warmed through so the drain cocks were not needed to be open. The signal at Grosmont station allows the train to proceed and the next signal as near Deviation shed by then the drain cocks will be closed,

    • @The_T.J
      @The_T.J Год назад +5

      Preventing a burst cylinder or blown off end cover is such a drag isnt it 😂

  • @daveogarf
    @daveogarf Год назад

    Stop monkeying about with the zoom lense!

  • @jadams3427
    @jadams3427 Год назад

    What stupid design that pushes steam ahead and blocks view. Long live electric trains.

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  Год назад

      Incorrect view, the diesel engine on back is there to haul the stock back into Grosmont from its turning point. Both locomotives have radio communications with each other.

  • @Collateralcoffee
    @Collateralcoffee Год назад

    Worst sound ever.

  • @CongreveMelissa
    @CongreveMelissa 3 месяца назад

    16552 Stiedemann Brook

    • @KevsTrains
      @KevsTrains  3 месяца назад

      @@CongreveMelissa I don’t understand.