I am Chiricahua Apache from my Father's side his father Jonnie Three Persons was adopted later by a man named Flores, my father was from the El Paso Texas area. I am now living in Italy, but I am glad I found this channel to reconnect with my roots. Thank you Peace be with you.
I really appreciate this talk on our Chiracuahua Apache history and context to understand the BIGGER picture of the complex history of the west and the Americas. I look forward to learn more and share this important history far and wide. I learnt that many of the Big Mountain Dine' (Navajo) people who resisted force relocation also share Apache Clan relations. My respects and deep admiration for your culture and these important conversations. Thank YOU! Hope to have you come visit us in Bisbee!!
I'm a Warm Springs Chiricahua Apache from the Gila but ended up on the Mescalero Apache reservation. I am a direct descendant of Victorio, Mangas Coloradas (descendant of both Carl Mangas and Seth Mooda), Loco and US Chiricahua Apache scouts Charles Martine Sr and Paul Guydelkon Sr. I am half Chiricahua as I also am Norwegian, Menominee and Badriver Ojibwe. My grandmother Evelyn Martine was the last Chiricahua Apache born as a US prisoner of war in 1912.
Isä äiti lapsi tyttö poika. Meil ei oo mitään, ei ees vettäkään. Ei asuintelaa(asuintilaa) Suomi kieli ja Norjan naapuri. Saami yhdistää suomen ja Norjan. Norway and Finland nordig land. Finland langfits. Mescalero war danse Fred Kaydahzinne (Apache War Dance Song 2 ) and Apache Song #3 - 4
@juhaulmanen4202 I knew Freddie K. He passed away in like 2021, during covid. Listen to his Ft. Bowie song, that is a Chiricahua Apache song! Ft. Bowie is near Apache Springs, Bowie, Arizona.
Thank you, gentlemen for the enlightening & factual talks about the Chiricahua Apache. So often misunderstood, you have done a wonderful job of educating the public about the true intentions & peaceful nature of our great people. Again, I thank you. Many Blessings
Since my childhood I follow the history of the different Apache tribes. Still searching for books I haven't read so far. Really enjoyed this presentation/stories. I wish you all the best to get back as much as possible of your original territories.
I really enjoyed this lesson. I know the Chiricahua have a difficult and long struggle ahead of them but I do not doubt that they will get their own reservation. Oh and I'm in the UK. If you look at my personal library you guys are far from forgotten.
Hola!!saludos desde ciudad de México!me llamo Ana!!que bien que se den estos eventos para que conozcamos y se difunda mas sus conocimientos!sus tradiciones!y se mantengan vivos los pueblos originarios!por la madre tierra!y por el ser humano!!
💯💯🎶💨🌌hopefullly one day i can find n baround and learn bout my apache chiricahua rootz .my innernez hurtz evday im so detached from where i need to be. What ive noticed uz youthz got lead astray becuz the older folkz stopped talking to uz youthz bout simple thingz to grow n exc
My greatgrama lived on the last house on the block in pinos altos n.m. where she traded with apache back in the day they camp out in her backyard.juana Shaffer., across from little museaum.pop.200
@1:05:16 you are telling the truth. Chiricawa are Aztec, according to my ex mate Naiche (rip 2007), the northern tribes are Toltec. Big difference. Also according to I believe Lanto via Saint Germain Society, hidden in the hills near Tucson is a very protected valley where people dwelled for over 4000 years. One can inly get there with the help of Sacred ones, try as one may, they won't find it. Regarding people saying you have no rights per the Constitution that is not true. If I remember correctly, the Constitution stated the Natives were separate nations and are to be respected as such. The USA is not allowed to trespass without permission. You should have your land. I pray the Constitution as inspired by God/Yulsen regains its original glory. Yatahey, from a white woman🕊️
One more thing. @1:06:30 yes there was a treaty. It was made in a field right at Country Club and Benson, in Tucson. It's been 23 years now, but where tall trees & weeds grew, across Country Club by the Circle K, I was told is where the meeting happened. Some children in the neighborhood stated they found a marker there to prove it. I did not see, but how could children make this up. There also were signs of a battle there, I was told a fire. I found the bones of a hand. It's been 23 years, so I've not a clue if it's the same out there, but back in 2001 yes.
@1:18:00 as Naiche reportedly said to Naichea to hush him he'd say, 'too many words.' ...You are right, talking about oneself and chattering like I am here is not preferred. Silence is. Thank you for this video, much appreciated flashbacks.
Fascinating talk. I was hoping for more information about the lack of funeral practices in the past. I respect and honor this gentleman but I question if they were really scared of death as it doesn’t seem like that was the case, but as he stated about other history of the past is incorrect. I agree. I have no way to confirm this, but I was told I have some Apache heritage. A DNA test came back with unknown information and of course with other race background. Either way, I feel and share the loss of my ancestral heritage and there is an emptiness there and perhaps even ancestral trauma. While it can be just a coincidence, I was extremely fast and athletic. I am mostly vegetarian and don’t care much for meat. Once again not evidence but certainly something in common. There’s a lot of knowledge and spiritual wisdom of the Apaches and I hope that these elders keep sharing. Whether blood relations or not, I respect and honor the Apache. Thank you for the video.
I been told this is my tribe.my gradma i wont say her name just last name ROMO, RAN AWAY With my grandfather and the family disowned her she was full blooded. My dad said he was about 80percent i'm not sure how much I would be, but I do know that I look a lot like them. ❤
I'm Aztec apache chiracuahua I live where Geronimo surrender lordsburg New Mexico 17 miles from my house lordsburg is the last place in earth to be taken from the fork toung pale face to steel Geronimo told crook where the last free man rode shall the first Free man ride again 46 men Plus Geronimo against 5000 fork toung pale face and 3000 Mexican and they them to surrender the only reason Geronimo surrender they brought the buffalo soldiers to die instead but he liked them so he did he told crook he put it black rock on top of a pile of rocks that was shaped like a pyramid when that rock crumbs you no it's time he will have the same gifts as me but only one difference he will never surrender their much more than this I looking for faithful Zuni Christian who holds the holy relics they been holding keeper of the lordsburg door and UFO and gold tried in fire
That are a non profit organization not a tribal nation I am going to be reaching out to BIA / interior department/ sec of state Bring federal charge claim I shall tell sec of state to remove the website in federal prison I have just standing of lineage I am international common law and domistic rights
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I am Chiricahua Apache from my Father's side his father Jonnie Three Persons was adopted later by a man named Flores, my father was from the El Paso Texas area. I am now living in Italy, but I am glad I found this channel to reconnect with my roots. Thank you Peace be with you.
Same on my fathers side. I’m Chiricahua and my great grandfather is from El Paso Texas
Hope the Italians treat you well- my Italian neighbor loves the Indigenous people as myself - my husband was Lakota, I'm German.
You don’t look Apache at all 😂😂😂
I really appreciate this talk on our Chiracuahua Apache history and context to understand the BIGGER picture of the complex history of the west and the Americas. I look forward to learn more and share this important history far and wide. I learnt that many of the Big Mountain Dine' (Navajo) people who resisted force relocation also share Apache Clan relations. My respects and deep admiration for your culture and these important conversations. Thank YOU! Hope to have you come visit us in Bisbee!!
I'm a Warm Springs Chiricahua Apache from the Gila but ended up on the Mescalero Apache reservation. I am a direct descendant of Victorio, Mangas Coloradas (descendant of both Carl Mangas and Seth Mooda), Loco and US Chiricahua Apache scouts Charles Martine Sr and Paul Guydelkon Sr. I am half Chiricahua as I also am Norwegian, Menominee and Badriver Ojibwe. My grandmother Evelyn Martine was the last Chiricahua Apache born as a US prisoner of war in 1912.
Mine is from ojo Caliente. Also related rock clan
I think we are related
Isä äiti lapsi tyttö poika. Meil ei oo mitään, ei ees vettäkään. Ei asuintelaa(asuintilaa) Suomi kieli ja Norjan naapuri. Saami yhdistää suomen ja Norjan. Norway and Finland nordig land. Finland langfits. Mescalero war danse Fred Kaydahzinne (Apache War Dance Song 2 ) and Apache Song #3 - 4
@juhaulmanen4202 Fossum=Forsheimer, from Oslo Norway my great grandfather was Aksel Fossum...
@juhaulmanen4202 I knew Freddie K. He passed away in like 2021, during covid. Listen to his Ft. Bowie song, that is a Chiricahua Apache song! Ft. Bowie is near Apache Springs, Bowie, Arizona.
Thank you, gentlemen for the enlightening & factual talks about the Chiricahua Apache. So often misunderstood, you have done a wonderful job of educating the public about the true intentions & peaceful nature of our great people. Again, I thank you.
Many Blessings
I’m sure what these strong,proud people’s have endured they can achieve anything.Much respect from Wales 🏴
Thank you for this history. Great knowledge for this country to know.
Since my childhood I follow the history of the different Apache tribes. Still searching for books I haven't read so far. Really enjoyed this presentation/stories. I wish you all the best to get back as much as possible of your original territories.
I really enjoyed this lesson. I know the Chiricahua have a difficult and long struggle ahead of them but I do not doubt that they will get their own reservation. Oh and I'm in the UK. If you look at my personal library you guys are far from forgotten.
Hola!!saludos desde ciudad de México!me llamo Ana!!que bien que se den estos eventos para que conozcamos y se difunda mas sus conocimientos!sus tradiciones!y se mantengan vivos los pueblos originarios!por la madre tierra!y por el ser humano!!
Thank God the Apache survived .
Thank you for sharing Painful history,and I hope everyone will understand
Your history is his story and is no longer a mystery to me .Your world is about to change again. G-d bless
The Western Apache need their collective Name like "Coyoteros" how they were once called
I lost Coco before I lost the people I loves. Thank you.
So much inter generational trauma and so many reclaiming their true identity and reconnecting to their culture from assimilation trauma.
Did she say a warm Columbus welcome?
My grandpa is Apache and is from Mexico and met my indigenous grandma Chichimeca
Thank you
Wow, very well spoken! The Apache Gentleman with the long hair, very eloquent and reasonable man, he should be the next President of US!
Shut the phone 📱 off…gees
ive watched this movie for the second time yesterday its really good
Amazing story telling.
I’m Chiricahua from my dad side if you read this I’d like to walk with you guys I’m in Texas I’m trying to reconnect
From my mothers side and I’m same as you looking for more connections and peoples
Yea it’s not easy I went all the way to San Carlos to get some history
@@willgonzales5140 might have to make that same stop in a couple weeks at gathering of nations
💯💯🎶💨🌌hopefullly one day i can find n baround and learn bout my apache chiricahua rootz .my innernez hurtz evday im so detached from where i need to be. What ive noticed uz youthz got lead astray becuz the older folkz stopped talking to uz youthz bout simple thingz to grow n exc
I hear you! Keep trying to connect with your roots - it will be well worth your effort! Grandma
My greatgrama lived on the last house on the block in pinos altos n.m. where she traded with apache back in the day they camp out in her backyard.juana Shaffer., across from little museaum.pop.200
@1:05:16 you are telling the truth. Chiricawa are Aztec, according to my ex mate Naiche (rip 2007), the northern tribes are Toltec. Big difference. Also according to I believe Lanto via Saint Germain Society, hidden in the hills near Tucson is a very protected valley where people dwelled for over 4000 years. One can inly get there with the help of Sacred ones, try as one may, they won't find it.
Regarding people saying you have no rights per the Constitution that is not true. If I remember correctly, the Constitution stated the Natives were separate nations and are to be respected as such. The USA is not allowed to trespass without permission. You should have your land. I pray the Constitution as inspired by God/Yulsen regains its original glory.
Yatahey, from a white woman🕊️
One more thing. @1:06:30 yes there was a treaty. It was made in a field right at Country Club and Benson, in Tucson. It's been 23 years now, but where tall trees & weeds grew, across Country Club by the Circle K, I was told is where the meeting happened. Some children in the neighborhood stated they found a marker there to prove it. I did not see, but how could children make this up. There also were signs of a battle there, I was told a fire. I found the bones of a hand. It's been 23 years, so I've not a clue if it's the same out there, but back in 2001 yes.
@1:18:00 as Naiche reportedly said to Naichea to hush him he'd say, 'too many words.' ...You are right, talking about oneself and chattering like I am here is not preferred. Silence is. Thank you for this video, much appreciated flashbacks.
Fascinating talk. I was hoping for more information about the lack of funeral practices in the past. I respect and honor this gentleman but I question if they were really scared of death as it doesn’t seem like that was the case, but as he stated about other history of the past is incorrect. I agree.
I have no way to confirm this, but I was told I have some Apache heritage. A DNA test came back with unknown information and of course with other race background. Either way, I feel and share the loss of my ancestral heritage and there is an emptiness there and perhaps even ancestral trauma. While it can be just a coincidence, I was extremely fast and athletic. I am mostly vegetarian and don’t care much for meat. Once again not evidence but certainly something in common. There’s a lot of knowledge and spiritual wisdom of the Apaches and I hope that these elders keep sharing. Whether blood relations or not, I respect and honor the Apache. Thank you for the video.
Rusty & Coco, our first dogs are buried at Oak Flat. Very sacried.
Both from México and U.S , we will come together
And do what, join the Mestizaje como los Mejicanos? Thanks but no thanks.
@@Cucurú-c9v join as a nation from this land, not as mejicas
How rude to not turn your phone off during a presentation.
I'm wondering if my family comes from the chiricahuas we have the last name Chihuahua just like cheef Chihuahua
I been told this is my tribe.my gradma i wont say her name just last name ROMO, RAN AWAY With my grandfather and the family disowned her she was full blooded. My dad said he was about 80percent i'm not sure how much I would be, but I do know that I look a lot like them. ❤
Thank you Joe Saenz on the wolf trail and Bill Bradford.❤
Greetings from Chihuahua, we are coming together, eneeyoo..!!
What prepared me for old dead family was burring Coco at Oak Flat. Tell me about rehursal. Very scared.
How many times are you going to say this?
I have "walked" the ground at Oak Flats. It's sacred for me
What he is saying is true my great grandmother was sold into slavery in Sonora Mexico and she had came back to the US.
Mexican Indigenous Chichimeca and Apache ✊
Suo do Brasil, mas defendo as causas indígenas. Pois são os verdadeiros donos da terra. Temos muito a aprender com eles.
I'm Aztec apache chiracuahua I live where Geronimo surrender lordsburg New Mexico 17 miles from my house lordsburg is the last place in earth to be taken from the fork toung pale face to steel Geronimo told crook where the last free man rode shall the first Free man ride again 46 men Plus Geronimo against 5000 fork toung pale face and 3000 Mexican and they them to surrender the only reason Geronimo surrender they brought the buffalo soldiers to die instead but he liked them so he did he told crook he put it black rock on top of a pile of rocks that was shaped like a pyramid when that rock crumbs you no it's time he will have the same gifts as me but only one difference he will never surrender their much more than this I looking for faithful Zuni Christian who holds the holy relics they been holding keeper of the lordsburg door and UFO and gold tried in fire
We are from ojo Caliente grandmother Lopes Peña lordsburg
@@BOOGIECali well hello so you no what I'm talking about. Keeper of the lordsburg door and UFO and gold tried in fire
Mother Earth is a live entity, of course, she has missed her people. I grew up where the white painted woman is. I feel her calling to me.
MY first dog is burried at Oak Flat AZ.
That are a non profit organization not a tribal nation I am going to be reaching out to BIA / interior department/ sec of state
Bring federal charge claim
I shall tell sec of state to remove the website in federal prison
I have just standing of lineage
I am international common law and domistic rights
It's not "The Sun Dance" but "Sacried", noe the less.
My kid did a DNA spit test and it said Chihuahua Mexico background I have Cherokee roots for sure
Cherokee had no presence in Mexico maybe u have some dna from one of the Chihuahua tribes like Jumano.Raramuri, Guarijo or Mescalero Nde.
These DNA test are a joke. If he has Cherokee DNA so should his son.
I hear “we” being spoken by young men who were not involved in the history of the southwest 1800’s.
Coco was over 13 & a dog. Thank God I lost him before a person.
Before I lost people in my life, I burried Coco at Oak Flat. Very sacried.
Chiricahua Apache mimbreno NDE nation
Joe is not a tribal nation administration
He has no just standing
That are not federal approved
Chirichaua ok nation
John 3:16
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Fake “apaches” 😂😂😂😂
😅
Tall dudes
Who are all this white people 😂
As crazy as it seems they are legitimate lol they do have blood.
@@pipeandtalk what are you talking about?
Apaches came from us the Navajo people
I'm an Apache n never heard that we came from Navajo, we have our own history. Navajos have great influence from the Pueblo Culture and I believe it.
Chiricahua Apache mimbreno NDE nation
Is at war with Navajo nation
Saying tribal chief Carlos Runningwolf
chiricahua is more archaic language and by our clan names we came first.