Killmonger Vs Guardians Of The Multiverse | Killmonger Vs Zola Vision | What if...? S01 E09
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2021
- Unfortunately, as soon as the team defeats Ultron and stops to take a breath, Killmonger takes the gems and tries to convince everyone they can fix their problems. They decline, of course, but before Killmonger can enact his plan, Zola resurrects Ultron's body to reclaim the Infinity Stones. Realizing the Watcher didn't want the gems destroyed, Strange Supreme traps Killmonger and Zola in a pocket dimension, ending the threat. Marvel Studios' What if...? S01 E09. #strangesupreme, #thor, #Killmonger , #whatif, #marvel
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Killmonger really was careless in this last scene, very negligent of him to not remove the Mind Stone from Ultron’s body before Zola woke up.
The mind stone was built inside of vision, he cant take it out of vision since his body is vibranium, unless your thanos that i
@@gtfomyswamp he has the power stone.
My Mokey brother
Pls Pls No Fighting
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@@gtfomyswamp then what other 5 infinity stones used for? That's just dumb.
@@greatninja2590 he has the reality stone, could’ve just zip zop it into the gauntlet
Unless the mind stone was still connected to the entanglement of zola and ultron
This exactly was predicted by Thanos when he said that after the stones were used the only thing it can do is temptation and that's why he destroyed them
And now we have zolo and kill monger fighting over the stones
Thanos was a man of conduct
Thanos was a man with a mission. Ultron was a bot with ambition. Killmoger was man out for blood. When you hve a mission, you are rarely taken off track. Ultron wanted to end life on Earth and start evolution over. With the stones, he saw the universe. He could never be content with one mission. After all, he was a copy of Tony in many ways.
@@VA_Nightshade tony made ultron for peace. there cannot be peace without equality. and no two beings are alike, there will always be war. but when theres no one beside ultron. then there will be peace everlasting.
@@AnkitSharma-qm7sg That is also a fair disection
@@AnkitSharma-qm7sg Bhai lekin yeh toh Vision hai 🤓
Thanos didn't mean general temptation, he meant temptation to revert things back - temptation for himself not for someone else. He didn't want to undo what he did and didn't want to leave a chance for him to do it (or for someone to take it from him somehow and revert). He wasn't thinking about people abusing the stone in some other way, as he only cared about his mission.
I don't know if it was intentional, but Killmonger offering The Guardians whatever they would want is very reminicing of Dr Doom doing the same thing to all the heroes in Secret Wars...
The suit vibranuim
Not just that, Ultronzola and Killmonger on the orb kinda mirrors Beyonder and Molecule Man to me
Yeah I was thinking the same
So many references
Once he stole the Beyonder’s powers in the first Secret Wars, Doom was so overpowered. They had to literally trick him out of his powers. It was so cool to read
Supreme Strange had already did what Killmonger was proposing him to do-save their loved ones- and he learnt his lesson by breaking his reality.
Strange felt the emotions behind Killmonger's actions.
But the only difference is that with the stone you can rewrite reality how you want it without having any consequences.
@@Michael_Myers2000 hmm that actually works you know...idk they forgor 💀 ig
@@Michael_Myers2000 I'm assuming because of the fact that Strange's universe collapsed I'm assuming the stones can't fix that problem
This is not supreme strange, its *Strange Supreme* , supreme strange is different, lives on earth 838
Bro supreme strange is dead
Now MCU has five Visions...
1.Original Vision,
2.Hex Vision,
3.White Vision
4.Ultron Vision
5.Zola Vision.
You mean five then
Ultron vision has to be my favorite, not gonna lie.
"White Vision" sounds very weird out of context
@@yesnomaybeso8633 just because he has rights
The original vision already is the white one It just changed his body color.
I like it on how these stones might be the only infinity stones that could work in any dimension
Honestly, that really bugged me. Like a lot. Because in Loki we’re told that the stones only work in their own universe and outside of it, they’re just that, stones. I was really bothered by this throughout the whole episode, but I did like the story.
It's nemesis infinity stones the strongest stones variant in the multiverse all they had to do is to find the ego stone and nemesis will be resurrected
Cause it's fiction.
@@areshernandez6201 the tva is like a nuetral zone that’s outside the multiverse or something like that
What did you expect from marvel writers?
Couldn't strange have trapped the stones by themselves in a pocket dimension and then just easily solo Zola and Killmonger
Zola still has one in his head and killmonger would probably just break the pocket demention
@@crazygiraffe3002 once they didn't have the stones on them they stood no chance. If strange teleported the stones, he could have easily beat them 2v1
@@blacknite8060 well my gusse is they were trying to recover from being almost wiped out from the explosion created from the multiversal warlord robot supremacist
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@@blacknite8060 tell marvel about your comment
Killmonger is still human wouldn’t that mean that he’ll eventually die of hunger or thirst? And since Ultron was an android I don’t think his suit came with anything to prevent that
I think there are two scenarios. Either Strange Supreme stop the time inside the sphere or infinity stones provides unlimited energy for both of them.
I think it’s a singular moment and it does progress because they both are still bound to time
@@mrpepper8383 so neither of them wouldn't run out of fuel or energy.
@@CamSiv996 correct
I think time is relative to their dimension. To them the struggle will only last a moment but to us it could take millions of years.
Ultron vs Killmonger,
but Dr.Strange WINS
fatality
😂😂true
Flash point: flash vs reverse flash, Batman wins
The Watcher wins. He played fifth dimensional chess.
@@robertjackson6937 imao
Killmonger: "You know, I am something of a ultron Myself"
The fact that watcher finally interference the sealing part which hints that without his help Dr strange supreme would fail to seal them off alone. He knew he had to step in or else all efforts wasted.
that's because he foresee them winning and strange supreme trapping them, all of that is planned by him, recruiting Killmonger who is untrustable instead of stronger being? he recruite killmonger because he foresee him betraying. he basically foresee everything in the fight which is why he didn't interfere in the fight so it didn't change what he foresee.
@@wizzell yup. It's all according to his plan
he lost to ultron because Ultron is stronger than him + he couldn't foresee himself to see what will happen and to avoid it. he is powerful enough but he isn't powerful than Ultron because Ultron can use the stone full potential, because he's a unique and powerful robot that can go through the internet. when he kill Thanos and collect the stone he sees all things in the universe, making him all-knowing and knows how to use the stone full potential + know how to make that powerful exoskeleton armor (stronger than adamantium) to prevent himself from getting damaged because of him using the stones full potential. the stones is the second most powerful thing in the universe (first is the heart of the universe) and Ultron used it's full potential. Thanos was weak because his knowledge is limited unlike Ultron who is a robot without limit. infinity thanos is just a very small fraction of the stones and it's powerful enough to stand against the avengers
If only strange supreme collected the infinity stones, instead of mystical beings’ strength and powers.
Cause it was easier and he had more knowledge also his body can’t support the stones
@@gamers-xh3uc bro killmonger body support the stones
@@nahuelrodriguez7069 with that suit, and I think Strange could only support the Stones after he had already absorve entities
Why not both
@@renancappelline491 sounds like a really lazy writing lol. If that how it works, Tony Stark shouldn't had problems using all the infinity stones in the end of end game. Or is it because of vibranium? Idek anymore🗿
Regardless of Killmonger‘s negligence and inevitable downfall, it just gives me chills when I first saw him take the stones and turn around with his arms wide open, as if to say “I have nothing to fear at all; you all should be shitting yourselves right now”
Nice DBZ reference when Killmonger powers up with the stones. Question is how survives that energy output though.
The suit probably...
I mean think about it, the armor probably allowed the radiation of the energy output to go equally around his body, so that's probably how he was easily able to handle the infinity stones... Just thought I'd clear that up! 😁👍
@@everettcosta1848 fair point.
@@sammalone7881 thanks!😁👍
Killmonger did say he was a fan of anime
Meanwhile, in Loki: "Why are they fighting over our paperweights ?"
It's nice to see Strange Supreme having his redemption. He destroyed his universe but he saved the multiverse.
Always thought the comic version of this was interesting. Glad they made a show out of it. Can't wait to see what comes next
Name of comic version?
@@zeroguap947 I think they just meant the What If comics.
@@zeroguap947Really ?
WHAT FUCKING IF
Notice that when Strange was trying to make the pocket dimension his theme was played
And if you've seen Spiderman no way home, this pocket dimension looks similar to the one which he trapped the spell when helping Spiderman..
Erik Killmonger has no chill when it comes to betrayal, always wanting something he can't have in life.
Worst teammate ever, well it was tough for a king T'challa Black Panther to put his own cousin down it had to be done this just shows you that Erik Killmonger is too dangerous to be kept alive.
In retrospect at least the royal family of Wakanda is relatable to a person with a dysfunctional family.
The late great Chadwick Boseman was like Santa Claus to the black community, knowing that this is the last time we will ever hear his voice as king T'challa Black Panther is not easy to accept because the little kid within us can't accept death in life for every time we lose a loved one we have the sudden urge to try to stop death. That's why it's important to live our lives to the fullest having much fun as possible.
Rest in peace Chadwick Boseman & Stan Lee.🕊🙏🏾😥💜
Everytime we see T'Challa in What If, it's hard hearing the strain on Chadwicks voice, knowing what he was struggling with
Some say that Zola and Killmonger are still fighting over the stones till this very moment
They literally do
@@mr.trouble827I think they got returned to their demensions now
Zola still had the mind stone attached to his new body's forehead, I feel like that should be brought up
That makes sense- Ultron's suit doesn't have a slot for the mind stone, because it's already part of his body. So when Killmonger took Ultron's armour, he didn't get the mind stone, because the armour doesn't have a slot for the mind stone.
When you notice that Supreme Strange and the Watcher planned this outcome
Maybe Strange used his time stone like in infinity war so they makes this plan together
Strange Supreme didnt have anything to do with the plan, he jsut pieced it together at the end. He spells it out for us when he tells the Watcher "you foresaw every moment"
@@stephengrant4841 So he just follows what the Watcher said ?
@@DraMiaouh He didnt know the plan going into the fight, he only figures it out at the end.
@@stephengrant4841 He is a good friend
Bro why are ppl so stupid. 124 ppp agreeing with something thatmeve happened... Smh
Sometimes villains will always be the same, some will change, some will never change.
What the fuck is this contradicting sentence?
Ok...
bruh
@@TheVenusBoy spiler for Spiderman no way home
@im right youre wrong You're the one who made the assumption that he was angry because of race bro 😂🤦🏽♂️
Why isn’t the stones injuring Kilmonger, I thought the stones destroys anything organic, especially the power stone????????
Maybe because of the vibranium suit. He never touched the stones.
But I am wondering how he is able to keep up with zola after the stones get separated from his body. Zola still has the mind stone so he can fight but how killmonger with no stones is keeping up with him?
@@codingmaster008 none of that happened in No way Home
@@turklander4582 ikr 😂😂
@@turklander4582 yea
@@codingmaster008 what?
Dr strange is the key to every big victory
Why does watcher choose them
I mean their are a lot of powerful beams in multiverse which can help to defeat ultra vision but no he choose 4 powerless characters and a idiot thor
He could choose many captain Marvel , Wanda , thor , Dr strange from different universes then he could easily defect vision
Idiot watcher
@@arindammishra2329 then u Would not see a good fighting
@@arindammishra2329 emotions. They love their people or place so
That's why EVERY adventuring party needs a mage, duh. ;)
I hope the Watcher and Strange Supreme share wings and hangout from time to time
"Thank you Stephen" , "Thank you for watching" both has the same energy
Good to see in one universe that even the evil or dark Dr. Strange lent a hand stopping a greater threat.
Not evil. Just arrogant. But at least time alone and dealing with tremendous loss humbled him.
Ok but won't killmonger die soon without having food or water. He is just a human.
Maybe he's siphoning off the stones during the tug of war with Zola.
Pretty sure the pocket dimension locks them in a singular point of time, so nothing will ever change with them.
Wouldn't zola have won this scenario? Because he still has the mind stone in his head he could have used that to either attack killmonger or make him give them up, and killmonger has basically nothing, The infinity stones aren't in his armor anymore sooo
this episode has poor writing in so many way
Zola probably didn't yet understand how to use the stones at that moment. He had literally just woke up from infecting Ultron
@@juanin200 exactly, Zola could barely figure out the tesseract in his first appearance . Let alone instantly all 5 stones after waking up.
Well they're teasing Ultron's return in the mcu, maybe they're talking about this specific Ultron who figured out a way to escape.
Zola has idea how to use it
If Zola Vision and infinity Killmonger manage to escape their pocket dimension it would be more interesting to see one manage to escape in the main MCU sacred timeline.
probably not MCU lol, there's a billions of universe in the multiverse(the word infinite is often uncomprehendable by us weak being with such a limited mind) and it'll be too convenient for them to conquer the 1 universe they didn't knew even existed which is the MCU.
1:11 this song... 🤯👀😎
Strange Supreme has to be one of the most badass characters in all of marvel
Anyone notice that the watcher said "if the dimension cracks and they are escape". Is that mean What If... will be connect to Dr Strange 2 since in Spiderman NWH the dimension already cracked ?
Seems like Strange Supreme and Zombie Wanda are in DS2.
@@jonathanmong4927 I was told it was Sinister Strange not Supreme Strange which is that Strange we’re watching from What If
@@julianas.3352 who's Sinister Strange
Sadly no, Dr Strange 2 has a different plot
@@jonathanmong4927 no that defender strange and SINISTER STRANGE
I wonder if this Killmonger will end up in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever, somehow be redeemed, and take on the Black Panther mantle. If they can find a way to redeem Loki who was a TREMENDOUS asshole responsible for the lives of many men, women, and children in the Battle Of New York, they can probably find a way to redeem Killmonger.
because all of this multiverse things, somehow marvel could just bring another tchalla from another universe you know. or they just make shuri as the new black panther.
@@ravenleo6241 Mmm. From random scraps I’ve heard they’ll need to recast either way.
They’re not the same caliber of antagonist. Loki’s motives for being evil were rectified. He didn’t want to live in his brother’s shadow and wanted his father’s love. In the end he got both. Killmonger wants the liberation of black people from the shackles of white supremacy and won’t stop until that happens. Nothing is going to sway him .
@@spectraphantom9374 marvel made killmonger too based and needed to tack some abusive or power hungry characterization to make him "the bad guy"
@@techissus7449 that’s exactly what I’ve been saying. Because at the end of the day. Killmonger still got his way. I guess killmonger was also drove by revenge so we don’t know what was his greater motive. His want for revenge or him wanting to liberate ,
Supreme is left locked alone on an island that was once his reality. He doesn’t do well when left alone to think. What happened next is on the watcher
Why didn't Watcher just send Supreme Strange to a universe where there is Christine without Stephen.. just like he sent Natasha to a different universe. Strange Supreme needed his happy ending after he single handedly saved (with Guardians) the entire Multiverse.
@@ajthapa3587 he wanted his world and her back not a copy. his whole agenda was saving her life. walking away from what little of his world remained would be admitting defeat
Do you think Supreme Strange could find a way to extract the stones and use them? If so, he would be almost infinitely powerful, right?
But that also means that Zola and killmonger would be free. He needs to find a way to get rid of them first.
@@Michael_Myers2000 After Doctor Strange takes the stones, they are nothing. Even with stones in their hands, things are difficult, even Ultron couldn't stop him.
@@RedDot95 true
Erik could have just snuffed them all. He didn't need them and they were no threat.
Tried to do his teammates a favor. His finest moment, though not for the reasons he though.
Will it looks like strange just save day by trapping killmonger and Zola in a reality bubble
Killmonger is scary because he behaves as though he's never had any doubt in his mind. Never giving a second thought to anything.
I’m not your cousin….that was cold…
0:59 "This is why i never had kid" - Doctor Strange
0:23 all the stones are going into the suit, but look at the time stone. It's on the chest, but then when we see him again the time stone is in the middle. Mistake?
The stones only work in their own universe.
apparently not.
Dr Strange could have revived Christine safely using the soul stone. Even if that’s not enough, all 6 together can resurrect the dead as seen in Endgame. It wouldn’t create a paradox because he wouldn’t have to undo her original death. Heck, he could have rebuilt his whole universe.
Christine's death was an absolute point of time, bound to happen regardless of anything. Didn't u see that ep 4 of strange in what if?
@@shantibhatt8104 so the death happened, that the absolute point. And after her death she could be revived. Since the death happened
Better yet, it's possible to create an exact clone of Christine with Reality Stone.
@@shantibhatt8104 Dr Strange was trying to reverse an exact point in time when he should have been finding a way to resurrect Christine.
So what if killmonger and Zola Decide to stop fighting so they can break out? 🤔
And beat Supreme Strange?
Multiverse in madness?
Things just got out of hand.
What they gonna do. Beat strange?
I’m not sure if they could work together
Both are too power hungry and they’re both smart enough to know that the other will inevitably betray them
One of my favorite parts of ‘what if’ is the relationship between nat and peggy. Just seeing one of steves best friends know peggy is just awesome.
I know a lot of people have said this but seriously was bringing killmonger along really that important like I don't think he made a big difference in the fight against Ultron they didn't really need him lol
I always assumed that they planned for him to betray them so when Zola went rogue with ultron they could fight and trap them in the bubble
Yeah, what rustbone said. The Watcher knew that Zola was the only way for the heroes to overcome Ultron (he's just too powerful with the Infinity Stones for them to beat Ultron conventionally), but he also knew that as soon as Zola succeeded he would steal the Stones for himself. The only way to prevent this was to have a second betrayer in the group trying to steal the Stones as well, at which point the Watcher knew Strange would figure out what the Watcher wanted him to do and seal the two of them away forever.
Killmonger forgets the mind stone :)))
I like strange's face when Kill Monger says you more then anyone should know. It's like been there done that, and didn't work.
1:14 That DBZ power up tho
truth is even with strange going all power hungry. hes still the most qualified to hold the stones.
you know Strange is gonna look for a way to absorb those two and the Infinity Stones
That would be cool
I love the parallel with the "One chance" of Infinity War
I really thought at this moment 0:36 they are going to show TChalla's convincing powers like he did with Thanos
Dr strange mvp of series
Ohhhh i wanted to see killmonger become a godd guy
Zola Bro on everything! Love that cat mayne!
I feel like at some point Killmonger and Zola will get out of that poket dimension, probably in multiverse of madness
Lol
Is it me or the orb where Killmonger vs Ultronzola looks like Beyonder vs Molecule Man?
Also Ultronzola's appearance (red and green) and Killmoger's enormous metal shoulder pads are all look alike that of Molecule Man and Beyonder
I wonder what would happen if the guards joined killmonger
This episode felt like a fever dream
I must admit that If I have enjoyed multiverse of madness that's only because I have watched this before watching the movie.... thanks for sharing ❤️❤️
3:09 We all thought everything will turn out worst in the good ending
It's an Infinity Tug-of-War
This is sad when you watch strange supreme becomes a villain in season 2, he was a good friend!
Correct😢 it's touch my heart
“The stones serve no purpose, beyond temptation”
The stones would not have worked after leaving the own dimension. This whole scenario ignores crucial lore.
Personally I think it would have been so much easier to send them to Arnim Zolas universe where Ultron won and wiped most of all humanity. Killmonger mos def deserves a serious punishment for all the shit he did plus Supreme Strange would finally have someone to keep him company during his exile!
That scene went hard. Refusing to work with Kilmonger is like a mouse refusing the biggest slice of cheese in a mouse trap.
Please continue this series
Crazy how Killmonger is even able to activate the stones, after the writers clearly said they'd only work outside their universe IF the one wielding them is from the same universe
He used the ultron drone head to get the armor.The armor and head is from the same universe as the stones.
@@flashbring they're still being wielded by someone outside their native universe not like the armor is sentient
@@prodigyweeb8986 Since he has an Ultron sentry's head, technically the armour IS sentient
It’s writing mistake, the writer themselves already admitted it
Wait but how could Tony use the stones if all the stones were from different timelines than Tony? Or are timelines different than Universes?
Am I the only one who feeling bad for Dr.Strange Supreme
Them: sheeeeeesh finnaly were done fighting
The city: how about me bruh
"I have nothing but time"
I see what you did there
After watching What If S2 Ending, I am very DISAPPOINTED with how MSU makes Supreme Strange die at the end of the S2!!!
Strange in here already moved on instead the writer decided to ruin his character with Wanda's treatment in Multiverse of Madness just to make a ZERO development
Shouldn't even be able to wield the stones or use them w/o dieing
I like how T'Challa's Star-Lord called Killmonger cousin even though they're from separate universes
You can’t lie bro looks badass
I feel like Killmonger does that power up like a super Saiyan since he likes anime
Good observation
He did say he likes anime
That frieza pose tho
Can someone explain how a human can casually use the stones? I thought that was impossible as shown in Endgame
Because he's not a regular human and vibranium.
@@FatherAirBorne7 I thought he was a regular human, what us Killmonger then?
And even in vibranium, it is still the Infinity Stones, Thanos got a gauglet made from a way rarer and stronger, more special material than vibranium and even he took a moment to get used to getting +1 stone at a time.
@@unknownname8591 heart-shaped herb, space metal, alien Magic and Thanos is a mutant of his own species.
@@FatherAirBorne7 Thanos is a celestial I thought
Edit: sorry, Eternal.
@@unknownname8591 yes he's still a mutant just like how humans have mutants eternals have mutants.
The least the watcher could do would be to set him up a nice place to relax and watch anything he wanted while keeping an eye on the 2
Wow I’m slow years since this show & I just realized that was Hawkeyes bow
God I hate Killmonger
Me too. Never trust a guy who is blind for power.😠
Am I the only one who felt kinda tempted to say yes to killmonger's offer to use the stones to get back what they lost?
You can't really trust this guy lol.
2:44 😅 They smiling but the Earth is still freshly irradiated, no way to safely undo, there's nothing much to smile about 😅.
killmonger after taking ultron suit: You know I am something of an Ultron myself😂😂😂😂😂
I didn't watch this series, does the suit he's wearing make it possible for him to wield the stones without dying or shriveling up?
but you'r the fkng watcher xD knows everything
They did a decent job! I’m personally shocked
the watcher is the embodiment of cosmic police, he comes after all the action has happened and the bad guy defeated
Interesting.
can someone tell me, are the scenes in the actual show just like this? or is this a cut up version?
Is it just me or do the infinity stones just look like magical jelly beans?
What if season 1 was excellent. It was absolutely brilliant.
I feel like they did killmonger dirty here
If there are infinite universes, then there's a universe in which a Christine Supreme who did the same thing as Strange Supreme.
So Strange just turned into Raven with the whole keeping the super powerful bad guy stuck thing 😂
“Hydra never died it just mutated.” Yep that sounds pretty in character for them.