Old Composer Reacts to MESHUGGAH Clockworks Drum Cam | Tomas Haake Playthrough
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- Опубликовано: 27 фев 2021
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😡😡LESSON #9 - NEVER do a video when you're fried/tired.😡😡 YES, there is a bungo-load of ghost notes that Tomas is playing. Somehow I twisted what my ears were hearing and my mind was registering and what came out of my mouth was blah - EPIC decomposer fail - anyhow, onward!
No worries! Totally enjoyed your video anyway! You still had the right mendSET 😊
All good, thanks so much for reacting to it! Hope you get to more meshuggah in the future
Still loved it Geebz, you're allowed to be fallible every once in awhile. Meshuggah is in my top 3 favorite metal bands, and your reactions and breakdowns are the most fun to watch. The pain face you make when you're first digesting Tomas's drum work is always priceless! Thanks for another great video. Hope to see your reaction to Ihsahn - On the Shores (saxophone metal) one of these days. Yep, still waiting, and I'm still here!
Personally, one of my favorite ones Geebz.
Tomas twisted your ear and mind? Mission accomplished! Keep up the great work!
The Meshuggah concert experience: You are bobbing your head, you look right and that person is bobbing their head to a different rhythm, you look left and that person is bobbing their head to a different rhythm, and none of you are wrong.
But the band? Do they bob their head together?
You could not be anymore right on 🤟🤟🤟
Is it law for this comment to be on every Meshuggah video
Plus it looks like youre in a live action stage play of Doom bc of the light show lol
@@deo44x yes
Meshuggah are the kings. My favourite ever quote or comment about them: "Where will metal be in ten years time? Wherever Meshuggah were five years earlier." One of the all time Titans of metal.
So true!
Indeed. No one sounds like them.
Yeah, they truly are. Destroy Erase Improve came 95. They really are on a diffirent level.
This
Best comment i got : swizerland has their clockworks.
Swedens answer is Meshuggah
Apparently a sip of that coffee is equal to three lines of coke.
dude is straight tweekin'.
I'm laughing but I wouldn't be surprised if a cup of that is equal to a couple lines of white.
lol wuttt
Buggah Meshuggah
No wonder it's $22/lb!
I love how all meshuggahs guitar solos are like what you'd expect from a clarinet solo in a jazz song
Funny you should say that 'cause that's how this guy in a doc I saw a few years ago described their sound. Like free form jazz. Phenomenal.
@wakenbaker-uk
They are such a f'n awesome band. Jazzy they are. Indeed.
That's an accurate description.
It's mechanical and really quite chilling -- it reminds me in parts of Alan Holdsworth with the legato passages, but to my ears is trying to convey the idea of 'evil machinery' which is very different from the kinda thing Alan Holdsworth went for.
Yeah Fredrik has the John Coltrane / Miles Davis thing going on.
"There's the one...kinda". Meshuggah in four words 🤣
"Where's one?"
As its written in 4/4, there is an one - its just not what you think it is
@@intergalacticspacecanoe4659 ur fun at parties
It's just four on the floor. But the floor is made of bees and lava.
@@intergalacticspacecanoe4659 yep. Don't they use Cubase to write their stuff...programming the drum part and laying guitars and vocals over it? And when it's written Haake works out the live drum part from it. And then they utilise the Cubase arrangement as a click to play along with and send MIDI programme change messages to set the guitar amp sounds for each song at live shows?
"no ghost notes here"
There are several spooky ghosts in that song, good sir
Including the collective ghosts of all the drummers who attempted this song.
@@Juel92 lol boom
Amen brother
Meshuggah is the only 4/4 band who can make composers confused.
tigran hamasyan
I was gonna say isn't this just 4/4? lol
@@OldSolar373 i think all of their songs are actually they just break it as much as they can
Animals as Leaders
@@OldSolar373 it absolutely is 4/4, but the divisions are just a big bunch of 2´s and 3´s .
Gabays breakdown is authoritative on this, have a look ruclips.net/video/YwrSvpjdK-w/видео.html .
imo, i think this guy knows what hes talking about, heres him playing venetian snares; ruclips.net/video/9DhCitL4-V4/видео.html
any music: *playing*
This man: 🧐🤔😗🤨😒😞😔😟😫🙄
lmao
🤙🤟🤘👍👏🤜🤛🥳
I love it cause we can see he really dives in & is a true music connoisseur. Gotta respect it🤙
Best advice I've ever heard for understanding Meshuggah is "bang your head to the cymbals and forget what you know"
Tomas playing drums is like somebody driving a car, rolling a "cig", eating taco bell,talking on the phone, listening to the radio, and having an argument with the guitar player all at the same time😳 4/4
Meshuggah live is an insane experience. Especially with their additional member, the lighting guy. His lights match the music so well. He's been given the honor of being their additional member live. He deserves it. It's like you're in an amazing crazy movie and the live music just elevates it all. I can't explain it. It's trippy without ever having to do drugs. And trust me, I wanna try. But I always enjoy shows sober. I wanna remember everything.
I remember every show I've been to while high on weed or tripping balls on LSD or mushrooms. extremely memorable.
@@whatsappscambot1802 Everytime I’ve done acid I’ve watched the dragon ball super broly movie.
I don’t care what anyone says, watching that while tripping is the most stimulating experience you can provide yourself. Lmao.
Bar-none...THE BEST light guy on the planet. I saw Mesh play outdoors in the evening on that tour, so I was completely robbed of what those lights were meant to show. Damn shame. Plus the low-end was properly missing. You don’t appreciate those elements until they’re taken from you!
@@dalynbratcher9888 I just added that to my watch later list.
Trust me, psychedelic drugs do not incur memory loss lol; it's like the opposite of that
Two things: Yogev Gabay has absolutely amazing videos breaking down the rhythms in Meshuggah and explaining how even this monster of a track is actually in 4/4 :D
This whole album was recorded live. If you listen to the soloed tracks of the drums or guitar you can hear the other instruments bleeding (hehe) in. These guys are insane
ruclips.net/video/YwrSvpjdK-w/видео.html
Yogev's channel is absolutely awesome!
I'm simple man. See yogev gabay in comments press like.
his videos are great
I think the fact it's on 4, like most of their other tracks, is what keeps them from sounding like a prog rock band. There is always that simple hidden element that is so easy to latch onto and enjoy even when on the surface it seems like absolute chaos.
That's dangerous combination of lack of sleep and meshuggah at night... 😂
Im binging meshuggah videos at 2am hahaha ugh i need to go to bed
A lot of people who hear Meshuggah for the first time say that same thing about the singer being a "safety net". The instruments are playing such odd patterns and many times the singer is the most obvious thing to lock in to to stay on beat because he sings to the underlying pulse that we all feel but struggle to count. That dude has a metronomic sense of the beat, the whole band does.
@derp derpin It’s cool considering they apparently don’t try writing in odd meters as much as it seems. The drums tend to be in 4/4 and the odd meter feel comes from the guitar and bass messing around with a lot of syncopation and polyrhythm that makes everything feel off. Really creative way of composing and still blows my mind how they’ve been able to create so much for so long with this method while consistently keeping things fresh and interesting.
Ist that the caffeine molecule in your pfp?
@@jbasti227 Usually the kick drum, locked in with the guitars and bass are all playing an odd pattern while the hi hats or crash cymbal and snare play a 4/4. Or sometimes it's the ride/bell or china or even a floor tom for like "jungle" beats keeping a constant 1/4 or 1/8th note pulse with the snare hitting on the 2 and 4 but with an odd meter, maybe a 7/8 being played by the guitars, bass, and kick drum underneath. They play it a certain number of measures so that the odd pattern cycles through and the "1s" land back in sync to complete the section of the song. You can do math to figure out how many cycles of the odd pattern happen over the 4/4 cymbal/snare pattern before resolving and the "1s" lining back up, what's cool is that the effect these polyrhythms have when played together correctly makes something that sounds awesome too, it's not just like a bunch of random numbers of notes or like they just picked a time signature to play to like, say they did it such and such time sig or something. They do not sacrifice the natural feel and groove and awesome sound, like it has to sound good or they wouldn't do it. Like I said in another comment, the guitar solo section of this song(Clockworks) always makes me want to dance or move, or mosh and beat the shit out of someone, it's such a hard assed groove.
@@skippityblippity8656 Nope, guess again.
Thats funny, the vocalist was my big stumbling block to 'get into' meshuggah. His purpose is more of a rhythmic machine than anything else, much like the whole band really. I kept trying to make it something it wasn't for a long time.
”-This is the worlds strongest coffee “ *shows warning label and shuggs it out of a mug the size of Tomas Haake’s calf’s*
If you haven’t, you NEED to watch the live version of this song. The lights guy is equally as impressive as the band
Fun fact, the original lights guy is Tomas brother
@@TheCrazyCanuck420 didn’t know that, that’s rad!
Yes....this. The video where they perform the album title track (in Sweden, I think) is epic beyond words. The light guy ‘is’ a band member.
I saw Mesh in Va Beach on this tour, and sadly they played in an amphitheater at sunset. Couldn’t see any of the lights. Even the low-end (~30-60hz) was gone. They still destroyed nuns though.
Edvard Hansson is his name
@@TheCrazyCanuck420 thr usual staff. You must know someone inside.
To anyone familiar with Alan Holdsworth (R.I.P.) the influence in the tone and progression in Thordendahl's guitar solos is so obvious (and yes - he has been given credit by the band I've happily discovered)
RIP Holdsworth.
Influenced Cynic, Obscura, Meshuggah, and many others.
@@lashedandscorned Yeah you can really hear it in Paul Masvidal's playing.
@@o-redbeard-o1036 Yes, even more evident on his solo Sol Niger Within. Are you familiar with Morgan Ågren who's the drummer and producer of that album? Hake is doing the voice parts 😊
A bit odd if Thordendahl grew up frequently meeting Holdsworth since he grew up far north in Sweden.
Check out Rob Guz. He has really carried the Holdsworth torch. Morgan even played drums on his most recent release.
@@o-redbeard-o1036 as a huge meshuggah fan since 93 I've never heard of this. any source?
Listening to Meshuggah always makes me feel like floating calmly on top of chaos
I'm glad you didn't die. I was legit worried when you said you drank that strong of a coffee and were going to listen to that track for the first time.
I'll be even faster coming here when I'll read MESHUGGAH - DANCERS TO A DISCORDANT SYSTEM
(Live The Ophidian Trek for bonus points)
S A M E but not live. the sound is not that good imo
I came here to say this. Amazing song and I'd love to see a video on this
One of the most wicked song... Ever made
Boost
One of their best songs!! Keep hitting the like bottom on the top Comment!
shuggah is a whole new type of Rubik's cube...the facial expressions are priceless.
The crescendo starting at 10:16 leading up to the heaviest riff on the planet at 10:34... it´s absolutely mindblowing.
That part of the song is the official “it’s time to put up some big numbers” song at my gym
@@ObeseChess same!
Meshuggah is the only metal that still gives me chills up my spine at any given day.
Have you tried Ulcerate? Mindfuckingblowing
Gojira 🤘
Dude I'm telling you. Nostrum is one of the most unique tracks in metal. I'm sure you'll love it!
Just make sure you have some Shugg with that coffee, bruh.
Lmao!
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
I like MESHUGGAH with my coffee.
Messuggah *IS* my coffee
1 lumps or 2?
Meshuggah songs to consider for the future:
- Dancers To A Discordant System
- Straws Pulled At Random (2006 rerelease with 8 string guitars instead of 7, better EQ maybe too?)
- The Hurt That Finds You
- Future. Breed. Machine. (For something old school of theirs still super entertaining and interesting)
Futile Bread Machine??
Dancers to a Discordant System! obZen is brilliant, but that song, Bleed, Pravus, and Combustion stand out. D2aDS is just ridiculous, and so underrated IMO (most people focus on Bleed)
Future Breed Machine is fucking historic, incredible song
Future Breed Machine is one of the strangest songs I have ever heard but I love it so much
Nothing from Chasophere? How about Corridor of Chameleons?
Ah Meshuggah, one of the few bands where people are head banging to 3 different rythyms and no one is wrong. These guys are monsters.
Pretty much lol. I think I’ve heard Bill Burr say that and it’s funny how accurate it is.
@@jbasti227 100% they're on my list of bands to see when this Covid-19 shit is done and over. Never got the chance. Luckily I managed to see Devin Townsend before all this shit hit. But that was literally a year ago tomorrow. God I miss shows.
That sums it perfectly!
You can tell a lot about a person by which Meshuggah rhythm they headbang to. lol
This channel is grinding harder lately than Tony Hawk did in all of the 90s-2000s! 🤙🏻🤘🏻
You’re starting to go down a whole other rabbit hole with Meshuggah! Best concert ever was 2002 with Meshuggah opening up for tool!
Dude yes! I had no idea what I was watching at that time.
What a show that would have been to be at
I saw them headline on the Nothing tour right around that time, Strapping Young Lad opened for them. Yeah they were fucking sick even before they had the insane light show.
I saw that same tour !!!! 👍👍👍👍
@@grizzlywhiskeromg what a gig that would have been!
You need some 'Dillinger Escape Plan' my man, Chris Pennie/Gil Sharone are awesome drummers
Miss Machine has some of my favorite drumming ever. Tomas Haake and Chris Pennie are probably two of my biggest influences playing drums.
Billy Rymer too
"Obviously there's no ghost notes here" .. Liiiittle did he know that 20% of the notes are moeller ghosts due to the intensity of Tomas' playing lmao
If Haake was a ghost, he would appear in a more badass way than the prime Mike Tyson!
The guitar tone/style is so good, in fact, it started a whole genre: djent.
They straight up say they have nothing to do with djent.
@@slackerZ1 they are being humble but all the 2010s djent bands were totally inspired by meshuggah
@@adamsylvan5466 I honestly feel that the topic does them a disservice. They’ve influenced any band that’s listened to them. Misha ruined it for the rest of us. 🍤
Meshuggah’s music is stable instability, ordered chaos.
Geebz is geekin on that Death Wish coffee, I swear I thought the man was about to pause the track and go build a log cabin.
Anyway, you should check out Zeal and Ardor.
I highly recommend "Straws Pulled at Random" by Meshuggah. One of my fav has a nice mix of heavy chugs and melodic drone. Keep up the good work!
lol your basically tripping on coffee listening to meshuggah. good times.
I’ve been dealing with some heart problems recently and I can’t even listen to this song without breaks because of what it does to my heartbeat lol
Whole lot of ghost notes in this. Watch his left hand
What no one talks about is the outro - he is playing the ghost notes from the snare on the intro, but out loud, two handed, on the upper and side toms. But he's managing that two-handed rhythm with one hand, and switching between the ghost and hits on that one hand in the intro...
If you have ghosts you have everything
As someone with no background in musical theory and gets completely lost when people talk about time signatures, 11:05 is the perfect description of Meshuggah for me. Viscerally, you get locked into a groove amongst all the madness which makes it sort of meditative.
I would also recommend the title track, "Born in Dissonance".
Friggin epic, too!
That was his first meshuggah reaction, look it up
The build up from 10:17 and the riff after that, are so damn heavy they have their own gravitational fields.
This band is just amazing. 👌👌
Mr bungle and than this . I feel spoiled
Travolta
Grats on 100k Geebz, that was fast!
Also 10:20 every single time
DANCERS TO A DISCORDANT SYSTEM (LIVE OPHIDIAN TREK)!!!!!!!!!
HANDS DOWN, the best live band on the planet. It is a life changing experience! I have seen hundreds of bands live and they are BY FAR the best
Jens and often the Hats are the grounding factor in their music. The fact that Jens can sing and sometimes plays guitar at the same time over this insanity is just mind blowing.
if a composer looks like he’s in pain trying to find the time signature, you know you’re progressive metal
MESHUGGAH is the absolute best, love to see your reactions to it! They also have a new album coming up, very excited for that. Keep it up man!
April 1st!
The vocals grounds the ear because we are attracted to the human element of the mix.The instrumental is chaotic and explosive. The voice is like a capable steed, galloping freely across the rocky terrain. The rider, the listeners, can ride atop the tumult beneath them with confidence.
Love this. So open minded, that’s a true musician.
It's always refreshing to see old farts like my self enjoy Meshuggah.
Diana Ankudinova is a young performer who shocks us with her pleasant voice and takes us into the abyss of events!!! Diana Ankudinova is unique and inimitable, goosebumps from her voice!=)))) Diana sings as if she lives in the song! The soul freezes or opens with Diana's voice.=))))))) I am a musician who has been with music for years, and believe me, I have not heard such a tone in all these past years.
From Sweden here! I just love hearing and watching your thoughts and inputs on some of the most loved songs I have in my arsenal! Keep doing what you do! Love it! Loved the Opeth-videos btw! Keep rocking on!
This is one of my favorite Meshuggah songs by far. So glad to see you break this one down!
Just closed out a graveyard shift. This upload was my coffee and second wind.
I'm still here!!!
Dude you’re everywhere !
@@skippityblippity8656 ...and I'm still here!
Death Wish and Meshuggah late in the evening, absolute madman
Would LOVE to hear some Revocation!
The Watchers
The Outer Ones
Dismantle the Dictator
Summon the Spawn
Copernican Heresy
So many good tracks to choose from
Fathomless catacombs is another good one too!
Geebs, your analysis in this video is so spot on. Got so much out of it. Keep it up, my man. We're all watching and listening. Thank you!!
Love watching you break these videos down, bruddah.
Hello from France ! First of all thanks for the content, as an amateur musician I'm really learning a lot about what I missed for years about the engineering and mixing etc
Second, thanks for being so nice, pedagogical and interesting
Keep going mate, stay true you're really fucking great !!
(PS : Messhugah: Dancers To A Discordant System or Pravus are insane, you should try it !)
Fun fact: they recorded this album live so what you’re hearing is the band playing and recording together
Been waiting for this one a LONG time. Gonna enjoy this one for sure!
It's this type of reaction I absolutely love. I have gained new insights on the song thanks to your knowledge, and seeing the nuances from your perspective. Like the sync change right in the middle of the breakdown, where the first half it was the guitar and kick drum together, and the second half was the guitar and snare. I knew that the change was awesome but I can't never put a finger on it. When you pointed it out I instantly went "OH SHXT YOU RIGHT!" I fukim love Clockworks.
Good thing you're drinking coffee, because watching that drum cam is all the 'Shuggah you need.
Geebz: "too much caffeine? this looks like a good time to do some Meshuggah"
Me:"pretty sure that's the worst time to listen to Shuggs lmaoooo"
and the whole thing is in 4/4, but the groupings are in 2s and 3s. Yogev did a great video on it.
Thank you!!! For pointing this out! Meshuggah has always been mathematical ❤️
And yet, despite Yogev's excellent explanation, I still struggle to hear the 4/4 in this one. Like I know it is and how the riffs cycle and loop etc, but this is definitely one of the more difficult Meshuggah songs to feel it in.
The accents and note lengths really throw it off-kilter to the point that I remember the riffs and whole sections and can hum them back to you like muscle memory, but if you asked me to write it down and count it out around 4, i'd be lost. This song is bananas even though it's just mostly 3s and 2s around 4/4.
@@MattMcloughlin oh definitely, can’t nail the splits for the life of me during the going of a section lmao.
@@crispinmcsticks It is quite weird to nail it down but that’s why I call them mathematical
Oh man you've been busy this weekend! :D If you come back to Meshuggah, check Nostrum. Absolutely crazy track!
Regarding Clockworks: Yogev Gabay did an awesome breakdown of this track: ruclips.net/video/YwrSvpjdK-w/видео.html
Now time to check Dir En Grey - Vinushka ;)
Enjoy the coffee, but not in the evening, you'll never sleep otherwise. :D Cheers!
Grats on the 100k! This track is an absolute monster, my fave for sure. Been a Meshuggah head since the 90's.
I was going to recommend this but didn't think you would do it , shocked some one else did and glad you did it!
This whole album was actually recorded live with the whole band. That's probably the reason it sounds more natural than some of their other stuff
You really need to listen to "MGLA - Exercises In Futility V" drum cam of Darkside(the drummer)... he is a freak on the cymbals and it's unbelievable how musical he makes his playing.
Keep up the good work 🤘
the best of all your meshuggah reactions. thank you very much
Not only do I love your videos but man you're a hoot! Looking great as always!
How about I buy you a couple edibles instead of cups of coffee. 😂
Death- story to tell
I second that
This whole album
that's the thing, why I love this song its all about the snare. I love your content the way you explain drumming and how bands work is just amazing. I love drumming so much, but I'm teaching myself and it can be very overwhelming and I get frustrated but the way you explain it just makes sense. I really enjoy your content.
I came back just to say that this reaction and assessment was totally spot-on. Pleasure to watch.
Im digging the red eyes there mate
I love your videos so much!! Your Meshuggah and Tool reaction videos are definitely my favorites, thanks for sharing your knowledge!! You're a cool guy!! Greetings from Brazil!
Aaah! Finally you did clockworks! Was waiting for this one.
Cheers from sweden,
The precision of his left hand blows me away
I would recommend Beyond Creation - Earthborn Evolution.
God tier musicianship and songwriting!!!
I'd say their sound is massive, if you listen to one of the guitars, especially live, it sounds like a blade's screech against a metal pipe.
Meshuggah are the reason a lot of tech metal bands now try to keep the Gain lower and keep the low end in the pocket.
I kept recommending this year's ago, glad to see you finally watched
love your stuff, keep doing this
Meshuggah interesting composing and melodic rythm: Dancers To A Discordant System
Groovie Meshuggah with all of it: Do Not Look Down
Please make reaction to Diana Ankudinova - the most unique young talented singer.
One of my favourite things to find and enjoy is music that gives me chills and goosebumps. I was cruising RUclips recently and discovered a Russian talent show contestant that did just that, with one of the best, most unique voices I've heard in many years. Her delivery was nothing short of magical and I searched out more and more and more, and...more chills.
I was stunned to find that the first performance I heard was when she was 14!!!! She's now 17 and still developing. She sings in Russian, French, English and Arabic.
The covers she performed on that show are very popular on RUclips. Many RUclipsrs publish reactions on these performances, which include the ethnic song "River" (in a new musical arrangement), "Blizzard", "Wicked Game", "Human", "Derniere Danse", "Helwa Ya Baladi" and others.
Please react to one of Diana's songs and I promise she will surprise you.
Diana Ankudinova 😊👍👍🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💥💥💥💫🎉💯
1000000%!!!🔥🔥🔥🎤🎤🎤🎵🎶🎵🎶🎵🎶.......Diana-beauty in every minute!!!👏👏👏👏👏
OOOOHHHH MAN IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE!!!!!!
Sick is the exact thing you can about this band. It’s not only the polyrhythms he plays but also them keeping it all steady for him and the singer hitting at same accents. Just ridiculously good 🔥
19:14 literally everyone trying to count a meshuggah rhythm
Don't let these 30-something metal bros peer pressure you into insanely caffeinated coffee 😅 these math-metal songs hype people enough as it is, (and raise blood pressure, usually) so don't feel obligated to chug stimulants to entertain us! I personally like your laid-back approach on the BTBAM video, the Car Bomb one, etc haha
Love you guy, you get this band instantly!
First time seeing a commentary from you. Great stuff!
/Meshuggah fan from Sweden 🇸🇪
Yessss!! Clockworks drumcam 🤘 thank you for finally getting to this! Just an amazing track. Next you'll love Enslaved. ruclips.net/video/0-ZCSGOBswM/видео.html
Another band to explore
It'd be cool to see your reaction to Blut Aus Nord. Another band that plays about with timing in interesting ways. I'd suggest Odinist or ...The Meditant (Dialogue with the Stars) or Epitome XVI.
For me, clockwork, is like a baptisment into the world of meshuggas sound. When thomans starts digging, thats when u have hit the trance hard and it just keeps pulling you in harder and harder. And when it ends its like something really precious has been stolen from you and u cant get it back, but to listen to the song again. haha its so awesome :D
Awesome, awesome input. Thanks
This whole album was recorded live in Puk Studios in Denmark, with huge stacks of amps and speakers. And they chose the tone combos that fit the songs best. The small documentary/interview on this is very interesting
I've always wondered whether the drums in this track, in the way the bass and snare interlock, are deliberately composed to suggest the interlocking gears of a clock. Either way, that pattern is really unique and apt.
Love this. Love your channel. Love you.
This is my favourite video from yours. Love from Australia mate!