Surprisingly no, since AIDS wasn't first reported in the US until 1981. The first cases of HIV has been known since 1959, and theorized to be around as early as at least the 1920s, and the first officially recorded AIDS death was in 1977, outside of an early freak strain that shortly went through France in 1968. So this is right before it could have AIDS mechanics.
it could seem like it is making sport of the people who are injured or die defusing bombs. This was also during a period when there were bomb attacks occurred more frequently.
Sometimes people want an easy target to go after because fixing the real issue is too hard or they want to distract people from the real issue. This is why video games are always blamed for violence despite every study proving the opposite
In case anyone wants to know what they are saying at 8:16 "eh you, cool Hasse, should we smoke a fat one?" Says the lil kid "eh you like, lil Berra, weed is kids stuff, I free base only brown sugar nowadays" says the cool punk named Hasse. Not the best translation. The actual Swedish is written in a casual slang way.
honestly, as long as all the boobs in question are of 18 years of age or older i wouldn't mind having a copy. i'm something of a boob appreciator and i've been slowly amassing a collection of boob memorabilia that so far includes three books, a few Gustav Klimt prints, and a butane lighter.
Damnit DIMPS, if you didn't make Sonic 4 we wouldn't have been in this situation (I wish I could've left the comment at just that joke but I have to specify; I know you're referring to the 'went dark' part)
Genuinely, a family-friendly version of the movie making game would only give it more room for creativity, as it would allow for more genres and themes. Like trying to find the right actors and props to make an action packed western, or sabotaging an opponents dramatic crime thriller to make it goofy. Heck, maybe even have elements like licensing comic book superheroes to make films about or dealing with a creative but demanding director. The more I think about it, the more I wish such a game existed.
I swear I've seen one, where you can pick your actors, scenes, etc. Maybe I'm thinking of a video game though. Closest I found where I know I'd have seen it is Hollywood 1947 but that's a social deduction style game and not what I'm thinking of.
I knew what the last one would be before you discussed it, because I've seen it physically. There's a copy of it at the Yad VaShem Holocaust Museum in Jerusalem.
From the map it looks like the mechanism of play is similar to Sorry or Aggravation but with spaces on the map designated for aggregating for either collection or exile.
In the 2000's there was a game called Ghettopoly sold at Urban Outfitters that garnered a bunch of controversy. Basically it was a "ghetto" themed version of Monopoly, which you can probably tell from the title.
Antique bootlegging of a *horrendously racist* game, no less! And the fact that people would really buy it shocks me, I wouldn't want to own it even as a curio.
@@cr4shmycar118 It does make me curious; was it bootlegging of an actual game that existed, or is it the strange case of a counterfeit of something that was never real in the first place? I really want to know this now, for some reason.
3:33 A priest, a teacher, and a lawyer die and are in line at the Pearly Gates. St. Peter comes up to them and says, "Because heaven is so crowded, we now have a test: answer one question right, and you're welcome into heaven." He turns to the priest and asks, "What was the name of the ship that famously struck an iceberg and sank in April 1912?" The priest nods and says, "The Titanic." St. Peter lets him in. He turns to the teacher and says, "How many people died in the sinking of the Titanic?" The teacher sighs in relief and says, "That's a hard question, but I taught this to my students. The answer is 1,522 people." St. Peter lets her in. He turns to the lawyer and says, "Name them."
@@gotgunpowderI think the joke is that St. Peter is biased. He gives the priest an easy question and gives the teacher a normally-difficult question that they’re able to answer, but gives the lawyer a ludicrously difficult question that they’d have no business knowing the answer to.
> It was made in 1950s Britain > You have to shoot at targets > It comes with a rubberband gun to shoot at targets > the targets are positioned over men > The men are depicted... - As not-sees, of course >... eating a watermelon - GOD DAMMIT
Nah if you didn't see it being racist I don't know what to tell you. I expected racism against Indians, though (and Roma crossed my mind too before considering that that would be more likely from mainland Europe).
You know, I understand not wanting to get bonked by RUclips's 1984-level of opaque guideline, but what the hell does a watermelon have anything to do with Irian-skinned people? He acted as if that's an obvious signifier but I only understood what's he talking about once I paused in the 2-frame.
8:19 the text says roughly says "coole-hasse, should we smoke a joint?" "Hash is kids stuff you know, i do da brown sugar nowadays" (very rough translation since the original has a ton of slang and stuff, as a swede, I wasnt familiar with the game before this video, but it does resemble a lot of the trashy swedish counterculture that was popular a while ago)
Honestly appreciate you not talking about Capital Punishment again, there's only so much you can say about it. And as this Video proves, there's more than enough other Games.
I just found it hilarious that the political correctness makes racism against cardboard cutouts worse than actual crime. You can stalk others (Sssniperwolf), be a groomer (kris Tyson) or commit LITERAL genocide (Israel state media), but you CANNOT talk about old board games that harm no one.
That bit about the mustache man and pals not liking the game actually makes sense. They would have seen it as trivializing their greatest threat and enemy, especially right before the policies were about to be escalated (see: Night of Broken Glass). The first seeds of the final solution were also germinating at this point, the attitude going from one of merely exile to that of extermination.
Exactly! Those and their ilk tolerated over the top depictions and cosplayers in the early days cause they served to spread the word to people who would be on board but keep quiet about it, but by the home stretch they were deemed unserious and a liability
Yooo it’s the Uno Amalgam guy maybe the amalgam will be in the worst board game of all time tournament 2(not that I think it’s bad it’s just very complicated and unbalanced)
I feel like the section for the p/rn star game has too much focus on the complexities of the industry and not enough on the fact that there are apparently DOG and HORSE cards ??? hello ????? no explanation no nothing you just leave those on the screen ??? LMAO edit: omg is that the most mysterious song in the background for the last game
I thought the horse card was a hacker or something, like a sabotage card... but I agree, there was zero mention of the beastiality aspect. Though I suppose thst might be because daddy RUclips would nuke the video from orbit
Would have been interesting if it was true. You find it for sale still if you google. We have no laws allowing cultural items to be banned, nor at game release.
Props for using The World's Most Mysterious Song ~ Like the Wind as BGM during the exposition segment of the last game. Great song, and clever choice considering the search to find credit for it had that whole "use it as video BGM and see who copyright claims it" joke proposal
German here; about the last game: i read over the newspaper article presented and, if i understand correctly, of course the main gripe is not with the political ideas behind the game (what a contradiction that'd be), but rather to keep certain groups of people out of the childrens toy boxes, so they wouldn't "be led to the horrible fallacy, that political problems will be solved with the dice cup" other lines from the article include: - "this 'invention' is a downright questionable idea, ideally suited to put water onto the trouble-mills of the international j...-journalists..." (and it just gets worse after that" - "we don't struggle with the solution to the j...-question, to allleviate industrious toymakers from the worry about a great 'best seller' or to help children to an entertaining game" (this, too, is followed by things so vile that i can't even find a way to sanitize it in translation, let's just say racism enters the mix, too) well, my day can only get better from here...
If you want to know how rare the last game is, only *TWO* of them remain today and they are both owned by anti-discrimination groups who, if memory serves, use them as museum pieces to educate the public about the iniquities of bigotry.
12:40 I was _shocked_ that such a thing could've come out of the United Kingdom... but then I remembered that this is the same country that took until 1978 to decide it didn't want the government using its tax money to organize and film minstrel shows and broadcast them to their color TVs anymore, and that feeling passed.
This was the only game he has shown on this show that actually left me with my jaw on the floor. Even Adultery was a "Well, I can see that existing" kind of situation.
Assuming Busem Memo wasn't sold in general stores and wasn't ever advertised as a family-friendly game, I don't think it really deserved the controversy. It's not encouraging you to commit immortal/illegal acts like adultery, nor is it glorifying a real issue like p--n star. It's just a dirty match game about breasts. Big whoop.
Busen Memo might have been sold in general gift stores. The company that produced it makes a bunch of other memory and basic party games. We are talking Germany, and in continental Europe, topless nudity (and nudity in general) isn’t that big a deal at all. A friend brought it over from Germany for me and I played it with a group of Germans-and of COURSE we were playing it just to wig out the Americans at the gaming convention.
@frankbranham7404 Fun fact: Where's Wally (or Where's Waldo in beer drinking, truck loving, gun firing america) was banned in the early 90's because one woman in one page was topless and the media had a hissy fit.
all the ones upto the last 3 likely didn,t deserve the controversy and were likely dragged out of its non-cotnroversial intended audience or just nothing controversys to begin with. the titanic one is the exception where its fair to have some controversy around it.
13:09 No joke, the book now commonly known as "And Then There Were None" was originally titled "Ten Little N[CENSORED]s" and was considered not offensive in the UK at the time. The title was changed into "Ten Little Indians" in the US, but that is now seen as offensive too. The modern version features "Ten Little Soldier Boys" as the plot of the story uses that poem as a plot device. But still...OOF.
Some even more insane things about this is that it is a Christie novel AND a well beloved, insanely acclaimed one that movies released today still copy the format from
I really really hope we can get Kam to do an hour long (or multi-hour long) in depth reading of the F.A.T.A.L guidebook as a 50k subscriber special or something
800 pages sounds like a lot, but almost 90% of it is just very poorly optimized graphs and effect descriptions. What I find more interesting, personally, is how much of the game rules arent explained even with the doorstop of a guidebook. many basic game mechanics and rulings are either poorly explained, require going down an absolute spiderweb of references to almost completely irrelevant parts, or in some situations, _completely absent._ Zigmenthotep made a very well made in-depth three part video about it where he tried his best to follow the rules to make his character, and explained how 99% of characters made legitimately would either immediately die or wouldn't ever work in the setting of the universe.
Apparently there are two other Nazi board games: Bomber über England (Bombers Over England), and Jagd auf Kohlenklau (Hunting for the Coal Thief), so… I guess there’s those to cover lol
My ex had a board game called Class Struggle that she told me was super controversial during the cold war because it was essentially a revamped version of Monopoly that taught the benefits of Marxism.
The game "Reality" was never banned in Sweden, first of we never had any legal mechanic allowing banning a board game. Second, you can buy it for 395kr today. The only thing banned on the sales page is a YT video of the game. Plenty of pictures and documentation about the game. The game rule set was updated in 2013, so there are a few different prints. It seem to have caused a minor controversy at first release.
@@polocatfanTbf looking it up it seems to only be fun if you are familiar with the queer culture of the time (saying this as a bi-trans/fluid woman). Could make for a fun history lesson but probably not gonna be many people's cup of tea otherwise you'd just play regular monopoly
2:54 - That's like making a board game called "Escape from the Towers" where you have to survive in a destroyed NYC and scavenge for supplies in the second phase.
Theres a different Titanic game I remember playing in the late 90s/early 2000s. Given that I had older relatives fascinated by the event and the movie came out around then I presume it was around the same time, though I don't believe it was a tie-in to said movie. I'd absolutely love to see you cover that sometime in the future! (I also have memories of the Neopets board game too if you're looking for ideas :3)
Having now done a little research, the game I remember came out in 1998, though there was also a rerelease in 2012 for the centennial of the sinking. But it appears there was ALSO a DIFFERENT game that was a tie-in to the movie that I'd never seen before. I'd absolutely love to see both covered and learn if there were any differences in the rerelease! Looking back at the board is very familiar and nostalgic, and I remember I once dropped a bellhop token into the floor vent in our kitchen as a child and it was in there for at least a decade XD
I think I have 4 or 5 Titanic games, and I’m pretty sure that are upwards of a dozen. You got a burst in the 70’s about the time of the Irwin Allen disaster movies, and the strange “Raise the Titanic” movie. And another wave around the time of THAT movie. All of them are far more tasteful than “Sinking of the Titanic.”
Unrelated to the topic, but Kam is a mam of culture for using The Most Mysterious Song On The Internet as the background music near the end of the video.
Here's an interesting idea: how about some of the WEIRDEST board games? Like, just flat out Revenge of the Sunfish or Kidd Video levels of "WTF-". Heck, perhaps there's even a board game equivalent to the Voynisch Manuscript?
There are so many new, weird board games and card games like Munchkin that it would be tough to choose the weirdest, I think. I kicked around an idea for a card style game entitled "Holier Than Thou." The play would be a bit like Munchkin but you would try to make yourself look as good as possible by playing cards like Bible study, church svc/mass, and supporting mission trips. Others could play "bad" cards like "You're a smoker" to lower your ranking, and there was a blackmail element, like "You're having an affair, you have to help this player to keep it from getting out." Etc. I never went anywhere with the idea though XD
I'm pretty sure it is, the whole thing looks fake to me. As soon as he mentioned fonts, I knew they were on to something. People don't realize how fonts can be traced and how a lot of them really aren't particularly old, as many came with the advent of computers and desktop publishing.
13:35 The picture you show is of Chinese Nationalist soldiers, not German ones. They are wearing the iconic German helmet though, so I can see why you were mistaken.
Look, the reason I play games about being a murder hobo is so I don't have to be a murder hobo in real life and run from the cops, so no, I will not be turning myself in. Serial Killer sounds like it could mechanically be a good game of stragety and risk/reward, just clearly themed around a controversial theme for shock value. However, if the mechanics are bad enough, maybe it could be a contender for the worlds worst board game tournament 2? Speaking of the WWBGT2, I think Adultry should definitely be in it to defend it's title lest it lose it. Could maybe also have a mini tournament of all previous first round losers to see which of them deserve a second chance? A kind of playoffs?
Agreed. SKBG actually sounds like a really interesting game. Kind of like Scotland Yard but with a more sinister twist. I don't see much issue for it considering the themes of board games we have today.
How cheap was Ideal to remove all the branding of the Titanic, but fail to remove the several details specific to the Titanic and its sibling ships, so that customers are unable to imagine the boat as any other ship? (To us in modern times where cruise ships have completely different designs and iconography it’s not too noticeable, but I’m sure the contemporary (of the time) customers whom only saw the “Abandon Ship” version were still able to see uncanny similarities in the game ship’s details…)
The Sinking of the Titanic Game: Now all we need is a 9/11 board game where you escape the Twin Towers and the Pentagon as both were destroyed by terrorists.
fatal has made contriversy of video games not effective on me, its the WWB of board game controversy but the last three caught caught my interest being disliked by nazis and non-nazis alike does add to the interest.
These board games are what happens when you don't think about whether your game's topic/theme will piss off the media or general public. Except the last three which are just evil. (And its not a game like Cards Against Humanity that is fun enough to justify it)
Honestly, I'd play Bombshell. Release it again, you'd have a swingin' time. It sounds like good fun, it was just wrong place wrong time because the Irish love British cars. If I see it on the worst boardgame list, I'll be sad.
not gonna lie though, based on the time and where it was produced I was sure the second-to-last game would be based on the violence being inflicted on African and other colonies around that time. "quashing the rebellions" and such 😬 I mean don't get me wrong AT ALL it's still terrible, but the stuff I remember from history class, especially the executions... left an impression. to the best of my knowledge watermelon is mostly associated with the American™ brand of racism specifically towards African Americans, though I can very obviously be incorrect on that too.
If you leave board games, Advance Wars is cursed too. One of the major mechanics has people cartoonishly jumping on towers to squish them. It was released on September 10, 2001. One of the major plot points is a Russia-themed country invading another. Like a week before the planned launch of a remake, Russia invaded Ukraine.
Definitely the right call to leave those last three out of the tournament. On top of all the issues you mentioned, they'd make Adultery's dominant run through the 1st tournament look like a run full of nailbiters, which would make for a very boring tournament.
A correction regarding Reality: The game was never banned, and actually remained for sale from launch well into the new millennium, as the author kept selling the game to anyone who contacted him and asked if they could buy a copy, and it's possible that it's still being sold to this day. What happened was that the first printer pulled out after negative attention from the media, and there were major delays in the release of the game. Once the author had actually managed to find a company willing to print copies of it media attention had died down to the point where nobody actually cared much about it. The game was never banned in Sweden.
Of course those games would attempt to bribe tournament officials. So glad you've got such morally upstanding judges for this very important tournament!
its a really really really bad sign when your game is disliked by the 1930s-40s german government, if they say you're trivializing a serious issue, then there's no help for you
I disagree strongly. The Nazis would also strongly dislike a game that is positive about parliamentary democracy or accepting of the existence of Jews or gays, or a game that allows for the possibility of Germany losing the war
@@davidhildebrandt7812 im saying specifically banning something for trivializing an issue, obviously they'd ban stuff for being against the party and their ideals. what's impressive is *why* they banned the game, not the fact they banned it in the first place
It does make sense that the last game was hated by Nazi Party, because Nazis took everything they were doing extremely seriously, I should even say, zealously. They thought that what they were doing was a sort of a sacred mission, so for them, a game like this was akin to sacrilege. The easiest way to quickly piss off any Nazi was to mock them. Famously, Goebbels, who watched all allied propaganda materials as part of his job was supposedly shouting angrily when reviewing any satirical propaganda movies and cartoons, completely enraged at how allies dared to mock what he thought sacred. Similarily, the board game like this was also seen as mocking the ideas of nazism.
We still have our original Sinking of the Titanic board game from 1976. Never thought anything bad about it at the time. We just enjoyed playing it. Never heard anything about any controversy over it. The game is worth a small fortune now.
Im not really interested in board games but I’ve been watching your videos nonstop. You’re very charismatic and funny, hopefully your channel finds the success it deserves sometime soon.
Wouldn’t Adultery make for 4 games with AIDS mechanics?
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Surprisingly no, since AIDS wasn't first reported in the US until 1981. The first cases of HIV has been known since 1959, and theorized to be around as early as at least the 1920s, and the first officially recorded AIDS death was in 1977, outside of an early freak strain that shortly went through France in 1968. So this is right before it could have AIDS mechanics.
With Adultery it’s more of a house rule.
bruh
It's a hidden mechanic
I am so perplexed why they got more mad at the board game about _foiling_ a bοmb plot than at the actual bοmbers.
it could seem like it is making sport of the people who are injured or die defusing bombs. This was also during a period when there were bomb attacks occurred more frequently.
@@Puritan1985 yeah, this being released during the Troubles was just rotten luck
Sometimes people want an easy target to go after because fixing the real issue is too hard or they want to distract people from the real issue.
This is why video games are always blamed for violence despite every study proving the opposite
Gotta direct the anger somewhere I guess.
I doubt they were more mad at the game
In case anyone wants to know what they are saying at 8:16
"eh you, cool Hasse, should we smoke a fat one?" Says the lil kid
"eh you like, lil Berra, weed is kids stuff, I free base only brown sugar nowadays" says the cool punk named Hasse.
Not the best translation. The actual Swedish is written in a casual slang way.
Yeah, as a native I could barely tell that it's supposed to be Swedish.
Booby Memory looks like one of those joke games at Spencer's.
for real, my friends and I bought normal playing cards with porn actors on them and this feels basically like that
honestly, as long as all the boobs in question are of 18 years of age or older i wouldn't mind having a copy. i'm something of a boob appreciator and i've been slowly amassing a collection of boob memorabilia that so far includes three books, a few Gustav Klimt prints, and a butane lighter.
@@LieseFurybro wtf 😭
@@LieseFury this is not a flex
@@2fortcow i wasn't flexing
11:41 "What stinks is that the DIMP mystery pretty much went dark"
...Probably could've used some different wording there lmao
Gosh dang it
There's a least one every time
Mistakes were made
Damnit DIMPS, if you didn't make Sonic 4 we wouldn't have been in this situation
(I wish I could've left the comment at just that joke but I have to specify; I know you're referring to the 'went dark' part)
Kam really likes choosing things that will most likely cause him to get negative attention
Luckily, I am now officially out of any controversial material🎉
@@kamsandwichAre you really, though?
@@kamsandwichI still think adultery is so bad it warrants its own video
@@cerdgold225 No, he certainly isn't.
how? he's obviously not commending any of these games.
Genuinely, a family-friendly version of the movie making game would only give it more room for creativity, as it would allow for more genres and themes. Like trying to find the right actors and props to make an action packed western, or sabotaging an opponents dramatic crime thriller to make it goofy. Heck, maybe even have elements like licensing comic book superheroes to make films about or dealing with a creative but demanding director. The more I think about it, the more I wish such a game existed.
There are kinda computer games with this premise.
make it then
I swear I've seen one, where you can pick your actors, scenes, etc. Maybe I'm thinking of a video game though. Closest I found where I know I'd have seen it is Hollywood 1947 but that's a social deduction style game and not what I'm thinking of.
I knew what the last one would be before you discussed it, because I've seen it physically. There's a copy of it at the Yad VaShem Holocaust Museum in Jerusalem.
The only other copy is owned by an anti-hate group, but I forgot which one.
From the map it looks like the mechanism of play is similar to Sorry or Aggravation but with spaces on the map designated for aggregating for either collection or exile.
In the 2000's there was a game called Ghettopoly sold at Urban Outfitters that garnered a bunch of controversy. Basically it was a "ghetto" themed version of Monopoly, which you can probably tell from the title.
Ghettopoly vs Gay Monopoly when?!
I know someone who owns this version of Monopoly, unfortunately.
It also inspired a Roger Shimomura painting.
@@ArsonRabootnot in Trump's boardgame!
I remember my mom freaking out about that game
Antique bootlegging is not what I expected in this video but I am fascinated
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Antique bootlegging of a *horrendously racist* game, no less! And the fact that people would really buy it shocks me, I wouldn't want to own it even as a curio.
@@cr4shmycar118If you were to buy a forgotten game from the 1910s, would you rather buy a stale game, or a product of its time?
@@cr4shmycar118 It does make me curious; was it bootlegging of an actual game that existed, or is it the strange case of a counterfeit of something that was never real in the first place? I really want to know this now, for some reason.
@@pepperonipizza8200 peperoni piza 🤤
3:33
A priest, a teacher, and a lawyer die and are in line at the Pearly Gates. St. Peter comes up to them and says, "Because heaven is so crowded, we now have a test: answer one question right, and you're welcome into heaven."
He turns to the priest and asks, "What was the name of the ship that famously struck an iceberg and sank in April 1912?" The priest nods and says, "The Titanic." St. Peter lets him in.
He turns to the teacher and says, "How many people died in the sinking of the Titanic?" The teacher sighs in relief and says, "That's a hard question, but I taught this to my students. The answer is 1,522 people." St. Peter lets her in.
He turns to the lawyer and says, "Name them."
“Excuse me?”
i don't get the joke.
@@gotgunpowder the questions get harder for worse people the joke being that lawyers suck
@@gotgunpowderI think the joke is that St. Peter is biased.
He gives the priest an easy question and gives the teacher a normally-difficult question that they’re able to answer, but gives the lawyer a ludicrously difficult question that they’d have no business knowing the answer to.
It was an iceberg, not a Goldberg
> It was made in 1950s Britain
> You have to shoot at targets
> It comes with a rubberband gun to shoot at targets
> the targets are positioned over men
> The men are depicted...
- As not-sees, of course
>... eating a watermelon
- GOD DAMMIT
Wouldn’t it be Soviets at that point in time?
@@rho-starmkl4483 may be. Depends on the proximity to WWII, could be both
Nah if you didn't see it being racist I don't know what to tell you.
I expected racism against Indians, though (and Roma crossed my mind too before considering that that would be more likely from mainland Europe).
@@doylerudolph7965 wrong group of people and once you look for the name you find out why he didn't show it
You know, I understand not wanting to get bonked by RUclips's 1984-level of opaque guideline, but what the hell does a watermelon have anything to do with Irian-skinned people?
He acted as if that's an obvious signifier but I only understood what's he talking about once I paused in the 2-frame.
8:19 the text says roughly says "coole-hasse, should we smoke a joint?" "Hash is kids stuff you know, i do da brown sugar nowadays" (very rough translation since the original has a ton of slang and stuff, as a swede, I wasnt familiar with the game before this video, but it does resemble a lot of the trashy swedish counterculture that was popular a while ago)
These are just things I could imagine Vinesauce Joel saying out of context
Yeah. And I am pretty sure the only people that would buy this game are those that the game is about.
Outside of board game collectors, of course.
Honestly appreciate you not talking about Capital Punishment again, there's only so much you can say about it. And as this Video proves, there's more than enough other Games.
I deadass find this video oddly unsettling whenever he tries not to show too much of the latter controversial games.
I just found it hilarious that the political correctness makes racism against cardboard cutouts worse than actual crime.
You can stalk others (Sssniperwolf), be a groomer (kris Tyson) or commit LITERAL genocide (Israel state media), but you CANNOT talk about old board games that harm no one.
That bit about the mustache man and pals not liking the game actually makes sense. They would have seen it as trivializing their greatest threat and enemy, especially right before the policies were about to be escalated (see: Night of Broken Glass). The first seeds of the final solution were also germinating at this point, the attitude going from one of merely exile to that of extermination.
Exactly! Those and their ilk tolerated over the top depictions and cosplayers in the early days cause they served to spread the word to people who would be on board but keep quiet about it, but by the home stretch they were deemed unserious and a liability
Every time I think there couldn't possibly be any worse board games to find, Kam appears in my recommended and proves me wrong. XD Great video!
Thank you! I think I'm finally out of controversial titles for now.
Now on to more business-centric board games
OMG ITS MASSACRESMANSION
@@kamsandwichwhy do you walk on eggshells so much? Just to keep your earnings, or are you actually THAT blinded by political correctness?
Yooo it’s the Uno Amalgam guy maybe the amalgam will be in the worst board game of all time tournament 2(not that I think it’s bad it’s just very complicated and unbalanced)
Hello there.
I feel like the section for the p/rn star game has too much focus on the complexities of the industry and not enough on the fact that there are apparently DOG and HORSE cards ??? hello ????? no explanation no nothing you just leave those on the screen ??? LMAO
edit: omg is that the most mysterious song in the background for the last game
I thought the horse card was a hacker or something, like a sabotage card... but I agree, there was zero mention of the beastiality aspect. Though I suppose thst might be because daddy RUclips would nuke the video from orbit
0,7% gang rise up! Never heard of that bordgame but not surprised that it got banned in Sweden.
0,7 % represent
o7
this is also the first time ive ever heard of it
Me too
Would have been interesting if it was true. You find it for sale still if you google. We have no laws allowing cultural items to be banned, nor at game release.
Looks like what you'd get if Flashback made a game.
Oh boy, two frames? That's double the usual amount! Bro's feeling brave.
@@In.New.York.I.Milly.Rock. I like to spoil my audience every once in a while
Indeed. It only took me 5 tries to freeze it this time. And as per usual, I regret doing so
@@Radman1889You can just slow the video down to 0.25x speed. That way it's easier.
@@ColiteDominum There's also using the period and comma keys to do it frame-by-frame
I somehow managed it first try on mobile just tapping really fast! Wasn’t worth it. 😔
Props for using The World's Most Mysterious Song ~ Like the Wind as BGM during the exposition segment of the last game. Great song, and clever choice considering the search to find credit for it had that whole "use it as video BGM and see who copyright claims it" joke proposal
German here; about the last game:
i read over the newspaper article presented and, if i understand correctly, of course the main gripe is not with the political ideas behind the game (what a contradiction that'd be), but rather to keep certain groups of people out of the childrens toy boxes, so they wouldn't "be led to the horrible fallacy, that political problems will be solved with the dice cup"
other lines from the article include:
- "this 'invention' is a downright questionable idea, ideally suited to put water onto the trouble-mills of the international j...-journalists..." (and it just gets worse after that"
- "we don't struggle with the solution to the j...-question, to allleviate industrious toymakers from the worry about a great 'best seller' or to help children to an entertaining game" (this, too, is followed by things so vile that i can't even find a way to sanitize it in translation, let's just say racism enters the mix, too)
well, my day can only get better from here...
If you want to know how rare the last game is, only *TWO* of them remain today and they are both owned by anti-discrimination groups who, if memory serves, use them as museum pieces to educate the public about the iniquities of bigotry.
Yup, pretty sure one of them is in a Holocaust museum in Tel Aviv
Massive respect for actually covering the gross stuff instead of just mildly controversial and pretending they're super bad
13:34 talking about Germans but showing a picture of Nationalist Chinese troops.
Honestly, probably the right choice.
12:40 I was _shocked_ that such a thing could've come out of the United Kingdom... but then I remembered that this is the same country that took until 1978 to decide it didn't want the government using its tax money to organize and film minstrel shows and broadcast them to their color TVs anymore, and that feeling passed.
It also took them until 1985 to rename the book currently known as And Then There Were None
And what did those minstrels sing and play? Music from the USA. A country no stranger to racism towards blacks, itself.
@@gupdoo3well. I just learned something. Jfc.
This was the only game he has shown on this show that actually left me with my jaw on the floor. Even Adultery was a "Well, I can see that existing" kind of situation.
I was more shocked that it wasn't anti-Irish
I'm almost half tempted to do copyright deep diving on DIMP. Surely legal records of whatever company made it would be left over
Go for it! Frankly I'd )ove to see it debunked. The "wrong fonts" argument holds a lot of water. The whole thing looks like a fake-old product to me.
13:09 well, i was really not expecting them to make a "shoot the duck" game with stereotipical black people as ducks
Assuming Busem Memo wasn't sold in general stores and wasn't ever advertised as a family-friendly game, I don't think it really deserved the controversy. It's not encouraging you to commit immortal/illegal acts like adultery, nor is it glorifying a real issue like p--n star. It's just a dirty match game about breasts. Big whoop.
If there's anything I've learned from the last couple of vids, people really just want to be mad about something
Busen Memo might have been sold in general gift stores. The company that produced it makes a bunch of other memory and basic party games. We are talking Germany, and in continental Europe, topless nudity (and nudity in general) isn’t that big a deal at all. A friend brought it over from Germany for me and I played it with a group of Germans-and of COURSE we were playing it just to wig out the Americans at the gaming convention.
@frankbranham7404 Fun fact: Where's Wally (or Where's Waldo in beer drinking, truck loving, gun firing america) was banned in the early 90's because one woman in one page was topless and the media had a hissy fit.
all the ones upto the last 3 likely didn,t deserve the controversy and were likely dragged out of its non-cotnroversial intended audience or just nothing controversys to begin with. the titanic one is the exception where its fair to have some controversy around it.
@@kamsandwich You didn't realize that from the past decade?
Aids cards, what a classic! Fun for the whole family!
The story behind DIMP was a crazy plot twist, my jaw literally dropped
I'm not surprised. Everything about it looks "off." As soon as he mentioned fonts, I realized that it is likely a modern item meant to look old.
Oh boy, controversy! Hoist the red flags!
Hopefully not one of the Red flags that last one is waving
We ran out of red flags, now launching black smoke flairs
But I don't want to vote Labor!
SOYUUUU--oh wait shit wrong flag
13:09 No joke, the book now commonly known as "And Then There Were None" was originally titled "Ten Little N[CENSORED]s" and was considered not offensive in the UK at the time. The title was changed into "Ten Little Indians" in the US, but that is now seen as offensive too. The modern version features "Ten Little Soldier Boys" as the plot of the story uses that poem as a plot device.
But still...OOF.
Some even more insane things about this is that it is a Christie novel AND a well beloved, insanely acclaimed one that movies released today still copy the format from
They should have kept the original title for that book, it's great. It's one of the best selling books of all time
I'm one of your eight Sweden viewers. Feels special.
I really really hope we can get Kam to do an hour long (or multi-hour long) in depth reading of the F.A.T.A.L guidebook as a 50k subscriber special or something
800 pages sounds like a lot, but almost 90% of it is just very poorly optimized graphs and effect descriptions. What I find more interesting, personally, is how much of the game rules arent explained even with the doorstop of a guidebook. many basic game mechanics and rulings are either poorly explained, require going down an absolute spiderweb of references to almost completely irrelevant parts, or in some situations, _completely absent._ Zigmenthotep made a very well made in-depth three part video about it where he tried his best to follow the rules to make his character, and explained how 99% of characters made legitimately would either immediately die or wouldn't ever work in the setting of the universe.
@@goldenpig6453 oh yeah i watched those videos. The fucking racial hatred chart being almost entirely red destroyed me 💀
Apparently there are two other Nazi board games: Bomber über England (Bombers Over England), and Jagd auf Kohlenklau (Hunting for the Coal Thief), so… I guess there’s those to cover lol
Confound it, I was finally out
@@kamsandwich maybe you could do an episode on propaganda board games?
My ex had a board game called Class Struggle that she told me was super controversial during the cold war because it was essentially a revamped version of Monopoly that taught the benefits of Marxism.
I knew staying up until 12am was worth it!
6pm here, lol
Bombshells timing was a bit Troublesome.
it's a bit like jenga in 2001
Hands down one of the best direction and writing among RUclipsrs. Good job my dood! 😂😂😂
Thank you! Appreciate it!
The game "Reality" was never banned in Sweden, first of we never had any legal mechanic allowing banning a board game. Second, you can buy it for 395kr today. The only thing banned on the sales page is a YT video of the game. Plenty of pictures and documentation about the game. The game rule set was updated in 2013, so there are a few different prints. It seem to have caused a minor controversy at first release.
Also Also Also: DIMP is just Chutes and Ladders as you said, which if Chutes and Ladders doesn't make it then why would DIMP?
Tbf theming carried a lot of games in the last tournament
still think it's dumb gay monopoly made the list when it was pro-lgbt and made by gay people. (I get the list was community made) @@Lorekeeper_GGuy
@@polocatfan I’d bet it got nominated just for being a game Kam had covered if I had to guess. Audience bias and all
@@polocatfanTbf looking it up it seems to only be fun if you are familiar with the queer culture of the time (saying this as a bi-trans/fluid woman). Could make for a fun history lesson but probably not gonna be many people's cup of tea otherwise you'd just play regular monopoly
thank you board james
The board james?
if people think a board game is gonna convince people drugs are good, they must have a low opinion of the public.
13:04 “No, no, wait.” is the funniest line ever
Love the channel lately. It's like comfort soup
2:54 - That's like making a board game called "Escape from the Towers" where you have to survive in a destroyed NYC and scavenge for supplies in the second phase.
Kam should just do an entire video on how evil Candyland is at this point
Oh my god, the Nazi game being so bad even the Nazis hate it…💀
what nazi game? i dont think he covered anything like that in the video
That’s the funny part-it actually wasn’t hateful enough.
When someone else spoils your plan, you gotta pretend you weren't planning it in the first place.
@@hiimvixel6628It starts by 13:27
It's not a nazi game, believe it or not jews have been kicked out of a lot of nations
I appreciate you preserving that these existed so we can point and gasp, but WHAT THE ACTUAL FRACK.
Theres a different Titanic game I remember playing in the late 90s/early 2000s. Given that I had older relatives fascinated by the event and the movie came out around then I presume it was around the same time, though I don't believe it was a tie-in to said movie. I'd absolutely love to see you cover that sometime in the future! (I also have memories of the Neopets board game too if you're looking for ideas :3)
Having now done a little research, the game I remember came out in 1998, though there was also a rerelease in 2012 for the centennial of the sinking. But it appears there was ALSO a DIFFERENT game that was a tie-in to the movie that I'd never seen before. I'd absolutely love to see both covered and learn if there were any differences in the rerelease! Looking back at the board is very familiar and nostalgic, and I remember I once dropped a bellhop token into the floor vent in our kitchen as a child and it was in there for at least a decade XD
I owned the Neopets board game (and am still a very active user of the website), but I don't think I ever actually got to play it.
I think I have 4 or 5 Titanic games, and I’m pretty sure that are upwards of a dozen. You got a burst in the 70’s about the time of the Irwin Allen disaster movies, and the strange “Raise the Titanic” movie. And another wave around the time of THAT movie.
All of them are far more tasteful than “Sinking of the Titanic.”
Unrelated to the topic, but Kam is a mam of culture for using The Most Mysterious Song On The Internet as the background music near the end of the video.
Here's an interesting idea: how about some of the WEIRDEST board games? Like, just flat out Revenge of the Sunfish or Kidd Video levels of "WTF-". Heck, perhaps there's even a board game equivalent to the Voynisch Manuscript?
There are so many new, weird board games and card games like Munchkin that it would be tough to choose the weirdest, I think.
I kicked around an idea for a card style game entitled "Holier Than Thou." The play would be a bit like Munchkin but you would try to make yourself look as good as possible by playing cards like Bible study, church svc/mass, and supporting mission trips. Others could play "bad" cards like "You're a smoker" to lower your ranking, and there was a blackmail element, like "You're having an affair, you have to help this player to keep it from getting out." Etc. I never went anywhere with the idea though XD
Munchkin barely rates as weird, when compared to... say..."Globbo", or "Welcome to Hell".
Whether or not that... Snakes & Ladders Copy is actually a historical relic or a counterfeit of one, there's one hell of a story behind it either way.
I'm pretty sure it is, the whole thing looks fake to me. As soon as he mentioned fonts, I knew they were on to something. People don't realize how fonts can be traced and how a lot of them really aren't particularly old, as many came with the advent of computers and desktop publishing.
13:35 The picture you show is of Chinese Nationalist soldiers, not German ones. They are wearing the iconic German helmet though, so I can see why you were mistaken.
Look, the reason I play games about being a murder hobo is so I don't have to be a murder hobo in real life and run from the cops, so no, I will not be turning myself in.
Serial Killer sounds like it could mechanically be a good game of stragety and risk/reward, just clearly themed around a controversial theme for shock value.
However, if the mechanics are bad enough, maybe it could be a contender for the worlds worst board game tournament 2?
Speaking of the WWBGT2, I think Adultry should definitely be in it to defend it's title lest it lose it.
Could maybe also have a mini tournament of all previous first round losers to see which of them deserve a second chance? A kind of playoffs?
Agreed. SKBG actually sounds like a really interesting game. Kind of like Scotland Yard but with a more sinister twist. I don't see much issue for it considering the themes of board games we have today.
Another thing to add to the controversial board games pile:
Did you know Nintendo made a Japanese propaganda backgammon board back during WW2?
Links?
@@davisvoelzke8011 no they made him after world war 2
Like the wind playing in the background of thegerman one immediately activated all my neurons
I caught "Like the Wind" at the end there, very nice
I was gonna ask what the song playing during the last segment was, I guess a lot of other people are wondering too lol
Saving the video for when it gets taken down
First, the Titanic video games. Now this... I shouldn't be surprised by this. We live in a timeline where practically anything can be a board game...
Don't forget the THREE animated Titanic movies :D
Hey at least the third game to include contracting AIDS as a mechanic was through drug use rather than sex
How cheap was Ideal to remove all the branding of the Titanic, but fail to remove the several details specific to the Titanic and its sibling ships,
so that customers are unable to imagine the boat as any other ship?
(To us in modern times where cruise ships have completely different designs and iconography it’s not too noticeable, but I’m sure the contemporary (of the time) customers whom only saw the “Abandon Ship” version were still able to see uncanny similarities in the game ship’s details…)
2:03 To be fair, releasing a game like that in the middle of The Troubles was asking for controversy.
Drugs are AWESOME. Personally my favorite is ibuprofen..... or maybe crack 🤔
Crack? Pull yer pants up!
That Serial Killer game sounds hilarious with the right group of friends
The Sinking of the Titanic Game: Now all we need is a 9/11 board game where you escape the Twin Towers and the Pentagon as both were destroyed by terrorists.
Why do so many of your videos just unironically turn into topics about porn
Because there are people who unironically made board games about porn and/or sexual activity.
fatal has made contriversy of video games not effective on me, its the WWB of board game controversy but the last three caught caught my interest being disliked by nazis and non-nazis alike does add to the interest.
I think that we could use a pallet cleanser after this. Can you look into Unstable Unicorns? It is genuinely a very fun card game.
I haven't played a board game in about a decade I think, yet your videos are so funny I watch all of them, thanks man
These board games are what happens when you don't think about whether your game's topic/theme will piss off the media or general public. Except the last three which are just evil. (And its not a game like Cards Against Humanity that is fun enough to justify it)
Honestly, I'd play Bombshell. Release it again, you'd have a swingin' time. It sounds like good fun, it was just wrong place wrong time because the Irish love British cars. If I see it on the worst boardgame list, I'll be sad.
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13:34
Why do you use Chinese soldiers?
lets see how long til this video gets demonetized!
13:30 I revisited a Holocaust museum a few weeks ago so I could see this coming from a mile away :(
not gonna lie though, based on the time and where it was produced I was sure the second-to-last game would be based on the violence being inflicted on African and other colonies around that time. "quashing the rebellions" and such 😬
I mean don't get me wrong AT ALL it's still terrible, but the stuff I remember from history class, especially the executions... left an impression. to the best of my knowledge watermelon is mostly associated with the American™ brand of racism specifically towards African Americans, though I can very obviously be incorrect on that too.
Disqualifying THOSE three games is totally fair, but I better see Reality in the second tournament
16:26 Huh? Wha? Did the video just skip 8 minutes?
Love how you used Semper Fidelis as the background music for Bombshell
If you leave board games, Advance Wars is cursed too. One of the major mechanics has people cartoonishly jumping on towers to squish them. It was released on September 10, 2001. One of the major plot points is a Russia-themed country invading another. Like a week before the planned launch of a remake, Russia invaded Ukraine.
Now I feel discouraged from publishing my 9/11 themed board game called "Dancing Israelis"
I'm Swedish and I paly that game very day, like every other swede
Definitely the right call to leave those last three out of the tournament. On top of all the issues you mentioned, they'd make Adultery's dominant run through the 1st tournament look like a run full of nailbiters, which would make for a very boring tournament.
"The last good idea has been taken, it's time to give up" absolutely sent me
A correction regarding Reality:
The game was never banned, and actually remained for sale from launch well into the new millennium, as the author kept selling the game to anyone who contacted him and asked if they could buy a copy, and it's possible that it's still being sold to this day. What happened was that the first printer pulled out after negative attention from the media, and there were major delays in the release of the game. Once the author had actually managed to find a company willing to print copies of it media attention had died down to the point where nobody actually cared much about it. The game was never banned in Sweden.
Welp, I guess I got my lunch video. Thank you kind sir.
Of course those games would attempt to bribe tournament officials. So glad you've got such morally upstanding judges for this very important tournament!
Loving the channel! It’s like Scott the Woz but for board games. Great energy and humor
its a really really really bad sign when your game is disliked by the 1930s-40s german government, if they say you're trivializing a serious issue, then there's no help for you
I disagree strongly. The Nazis would also strongly dislike a game that is positive about parliamentary democracy or accepting of the existence of Jews or gays, or a game that allows for the possibility of Germany losing the war
@@davidhildebrandt7812 im saying specifically banning something for trivializing an issue, obviously they'd ban stuff for being against the party and their ideals. what's impressive is *why* they banned the game, not the fact they banned it in the first place
i love it when there's a moment where i have to go "oh noooo" out loud.
If actually 0.7% of the current views come from unique swedes, at the moment 52 swedes watched it. More than 6x than you said
16:03 logistical nightmare?
you really want to see a logistical nightmare, then try to play hybrid the incomplete TTRPG system.
It does make sense that the last game was hated by Nazi Party, because Nazis took everything they were doing extremely seriously, I should even say, zealously. They thought that what they were doing was a sort of a sacred mission, so for them, a game like this was akin to sacrilege. The easiest way to quickly piss off any Nazi was to mock them. Famously, Goebbels, who watched all allied propaganda materials as part of his job was supposedly shouting angrily when reviewing any satirical propaganda movies and cartoons, completely enraged at how allies dared to mock what he thought sacred. Similarily, the board game like this was also seen as mocking the ideas of nazism.
We still have our original Sinking of the Titanic board game from 1976. Never thought anything bad about it at the time. We just enjoyed playing it. Never heard anything about any controversy over it. The game is worth a small fortune now.
Sad to say at my age none of these really surprised me. Keep up the good work locating the bizarre stuff.
Im not really interested in board games but I’ve been watching your videos nonstop. You’re very charismatic and funny, hopefully your channel finds the success it deserves sometime soon.
You banished the Rap Rat... or, at least, jumped ship to dodge the vermin. Good for you!
6:43 Thanks. I just added this one to my Tabletop Simulator library to play with friends.