Mannimarco casted Soaltrap on a dead mud crab so many times that he became wise and powerful enough to alter the space-time continuum and ascend into Atherius.
i mean, Nords are mostly brawn over brain type. like Onmund said : If you can't swing it over your head and crack skulls with it, most Nords want nothing to do with it.
NGL i would've shat myself if i was invisible yet some guy who burned my guild, slaughtered my friends then stared right into my eyes, when I'm invisible....
@ChaotiX1 yeah but he didn't get caught for 7 years which means he's either goated or the Emperor was an asshole and they considered the 7 years a break.
@@ChaotiX1 Jagar speaks to you telephathically from across the continent, summons powerful demons from another realm and plops them ontop of your character, locked the king in another realm, and (I think) creates a barrier around Cyrodil's castle. Pretty sure he ripped the magic from the Staff of Chaos. He's also stronger than 5 liches, and can create a barrier around himself which makes him nearly invincible. He only used mysticism? Please...
@@Westile this is giving me "DO NOT INCITE TO ME THE SACRED TEXT WITCH. I WAS THERE WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN". Salute to you though for being a true diehard Elder Scrolls fan.
One cool thing I want to add about Divayth Fyr is that his Daedric Artifacts are just sitting in his house. There is no quest or hoops you have to jump through to get them. He just says if you can open a master lock and not die to explosive traps in them you can keep them. Meaning he cares so little about them that he will let the first person who can unlock the chests keep them.
It's not even that he doesn't care about the artifacts, it's that he's set them up in a little game with the artifacts as prizes. The catch is you have to get past the nasty security of a bored millenia-old wizard, plus the risk of corprus. There's a reason he still has those artifacts, after all. Nerevarine is just built different.
In a way he acts just like any player character. You collect all these legendary artifacts, just to stash them in a chest in your house. And we have to admit, if we could lock chests and construct traps, we would.
I will say though in Morrowind the fact there are like 5 quests to kill Neloth (Some are cut and optional) But still the fact he survived so many means he is clearly talented in defending himself and fighting with magic as well as his research and understanding later in Skyrim.
You know how in the destruction master quest you have to place a book on some pedestals and blast it with magic? The text that shows up is from Shalidor, shit-talking the master spells. The strongest spells in Skyrim are trash in Shalidor’s eyes, that’s how insane he is.
@@toastedt140actually what it really means is that while ingame the Master Destruction spells suck ass (Which is completely Bugthesda's fault), Master spells in the lore should be significantly more powerful and, well, destructive.
i loved how they represented the power difference in eso, for as powerfull as fyr is he was struggeling to keep the darkness back and sotha sil casually swept it away
Still impressive he could resist and it only threatened him once tbf, and the fact that both Sotha Sil, The Telvanni, The Mages Guild,The Psijic Order and Daedric Princes both fear and respect him and his power and knowledge says something about this ancient wizard.
dont get me wrong for a mortal he is very very very very respectable and im sure he couldve easily saved himself, but he was protecting 3-4 other people aswell ofcourse. but besides that i like how they show that as powerful as he is he is still a mortal (even if one of if not the most powerfull alive) @@ethanwaldervanzandt3516
I disagree about Ahzidal not creating anything new. The Ring of Arcana gives its wearer two entirely unique spells: Ignite and Freeze. While they are both apprentice level spells, this, to me, indicates he may have more spells, including the entirely unique and unlearnable enchantments he has on his relics. A chance to paralyze attackers, waterwalking without being a vampire or needing a potion, rigging your raised undead to explode, and adapting how runes/wards work all show that he didn’t just learn magic that existed, he knew how to change it to his needs, showing levels of creativity beyond what the Dragonborn is capable of.
At least he is humble enough about himself and doesn't overemphasize. He knows his limitations. And what even is a god. Are the daedric princes gods? They might not've created the world, but are in the same "tier" in the cosmic hierachy as those who did. And a mortal can assume their position when acting the part. The tribunal are worshipped as gods, but their power isn't unlimited. Dagoth Ur refers to himself as a god, but is defeated. And the Septim bloodline is strong enough to defeat Molag Bal. So Tyr might as well be one step away from being a god.
Nords recent anti magic sentiment REALLY stops making sense when you remember that arch mage shalidor built winterhold. Magic has always had its place in nordic culture.
Imagine the look on the face of some tough guy anti-magic Nord who finally gets past Tsun on the whale bone bridge after a few attempts, then sees archmages wondering around in the Hall of Valor and realizes they had to fight Tsun, too. 🤣
It is a crime that Zurin Arctis was not on this list. Even if we discount him being one-third of the god Talos and the feats of the Underking, the fact that he created the Mantella and reactivated THE NUMIDIUM should absolutely put him in the running. But I do agree that Divath Fiyr is probably a better Mage overall.
Yep - as soon as he said who's the greatest mage I said Mannimarco, hands down. He doesn't have power _rivaling_ or _comparable_ to that of a god, he has so much power he actually became one.
Gotta admit, Neloth irritated me on my first playthrough. The second time I "accidentally" tried to get rid of him. Repeatedly. Now I enjoy him and his sarcasm 😁.
You like him because he's one of the few characters with an actual character. And doesn't go like. Hello fellow stranger, let me lick your boots and give you all of my gold, ohhh hero of Skyrim 😂
Neloth's greatest achievement is being the target of 2 different murder quests in Morrowind, yet canonically survives at least into the events of Skyrim. If you joined great house Telvanni and do the chore he asks, he "rewards" you 10gp. That, coupled with the Telvanni's lax stance on murder "whoever survives clearly had a better argument" I (and likely many others) killed Neloth out of principle. Divayth Fyr also regularly travels to and within Oblivion, authors many lore books, has in his possession the cuirass of saviors hide, volendrung, an amulet that teleports you to a Dremora that wields potentially the only Daedeic Crescent blade not destroyed after the fall of the battlespire, a full suit of Daedric armor (including the only pauldrons in the pre-dlcMorrowind) and as you mentioned scourge. Divayth is requested to take an active role in the Telvanni council but rejects the proposal, indicating ambitions that supercede politics. Also, in favor of Neloth, he seems to be studying Azra Nightcaller, a shadow mage (noticably absent from your list) who discovered shadows are chaotic reflections of potential outcomes. He, through shadow magic, fuses himself with every other possible version of himself (in a pseudo-multiversal way) Nice video though.
Yeah he managed to kill ysmir wukfharth, beat Numidium, and wrote the elder scrolls art of war. Zurich is easily one of the coolest characters in the whole series
Let's not kid ourselves, the greatest mage is the warrior build DB. Just cast a few healing spells during the CoW quests and you become Arch Mage. All the while crushing all those backpedaling mages' skulls with Spellbreaker and the Mace of Molag Bal. 👍
If we take Elder Scrolls Legends in consideration, then yes, Divaith Fyr is still alive. There's a quest in which he appears. Btw, shame you didn't mention Vanus Galerion...
The thing with Vanus is.. he was talented, smart, and very powerful, but not as powerful as the people mentioned in this list, the people in this list are second to magna-gees when it comes to magical power and talent.
It only seems in the recent centuries that Nords started to actively shun and fear magic. At least two of some of the arguably greatest mages in history were Nords. The Clever Men, who had roots in Atmora and worshipped Jhunal (Nordic version of Julianos), as well as the Dragon Priests were notoriously powerful magic-users. To this day no decent Jarl of high standing would go without a Court Wizard at his disposal or turn their nose up at enchanted armor and weapons provided by the mages of Winterhold. The College of Winterhold is said to be one of the greatest institutions of magical learning for millennia. It is unfortunate that Bethesda really did not do it justice with its implementation and quest lines. It would have been nice to see Winterhold in its prime. From the description in _The Waking World,_ Winterhold was quite magestic and wondrous to behold before the Great Collapse. I'm having some good fun playing as a Nord war wizard currently; it's the best of Conan the Barbarian and Gandalf mixed together.
Mannimarco himself hasn’t been done much justice outside Daggerfall, at least visually. His look in ESO is even more ridiculous to me than his look in Oblivion. His ESO appearance looks like a design from one of his thirsty fangirls.
Mannimarco just had that modded Imperious Altmer+Wintersun Auriel +30% combo on his Conjuration- Shalidor was a master caster that got slapped with that idiot stick. Azidal was just that guy that can score well on tests without much or any studying. Neloth is actually pretty interesting, despite lacking the raw power of some of the others. Then there's the dude who was so badass that he decided the only woman that could handle him was himself to the power of four
12:12 genuine question, if a staff enchanter is such a feat, then how are staffs so commonplace in Skyrim? where do they come from? shipped over from summerset isle?
Nords mock mages, and yet the Halls of Sovngarde celebrate them like comrades in arms. I imagine every Stormcloak who ends up there gets a major culture shock.
The greatest mage in elder scrolls history? Manninarco. The lich, the god of necromancy, the black moon, the King of Worms! All hail to the Necromancer's Moon! All hail the lich God of all necromancers!
This guy's channel has some of the best elders scrolls content that I've seen in a while, you earn a sub my friend love your editing style and sence of humor, keep it up my guy!
There is a cabin called drelas' cottage. The alchemist inside beat the **** out of me. I was like level 30. He uses master destruction spells. I found he randomly and thought he was some named NPC with a quest back when I was like 10.
He probably scales in relation to your level. He has had decent or high level spells, but I've never seen him do Master Level ones. Wish we had a story for him
I think it is impossible to make out a single greatest mage. You could look at the greatest mage in specific fields though. For example, I thin sotha sil is the greatest enchanter. Kagrenac crossed my mind first, but he only created the tools to manipulate the heart of Lorkhan. Sotha Sil created basically a second heart to power his clockwork city. Mannimarco is the greatest necromancer, obviously. Fyr the greatest Daedrologist and likely summoner. Also Fyr might be the most experience researcher of magic, given his very diverse achievements. Though maybe healing corupus and creating clones fall in a similar category, so maybe he is the greatest alchimist? Shalidor, I do not really know. Since he defeated an entire dwemer clan by himself, he seems to be very adapt at destruction magic. But hard to tell. Ahzidal I would call the greatest progidy mage in tamriel history. And the most versatile, maybe even more than fyr. Mostly because he studied basicly every school of magic of his time in the lifespan of a nord. Though, I assume this makes him more of a master of all trates, greatest of none. Neloth, while of course a powerful one, I do not see him overshadow any of the above.
I agree. Definitely not as powerful as the others on this list; not even close. However, I think he deserves an honorable mention at the very least due to his impact on the culture of magic in Tamriel in the founding of the Mages’ Guild.
You know this was something a lot of people mentioned for weeks but now I decided to fix it. should be better I don’t know how that got through my “rigorous” screening lol.
I haven't seen the video yet but Hermaeus Mora aka Herma Mora aka the anime tentacle demon of knowledge and secrets probably is up there considering even Master Neloth explains they know vastly more than him in Solstheim DLC in Skyrim.
@@chadharger9323I mean hermaeus mora is hardly a villain lol he literally only helps and compliments you throughout the game. He isn’t good by any means but it’s a stretch to say he is outright evil either
Maybe the great collapse happened because the spell Arch Mage Shalidor used to build winterhold gave out finally. If this is true in a way it kinda is the college’s fault but not the present day college of winterhold.
Omgggg, I haven’t even heard of most of these yet!! I am so hooked on this game, it’s not even healthy. Like, I went to a doctor’s appt, ran some errands, and did some cleaning today, but then I sat my ass down and played FOR NINE HOURS STRAIGHT, all bc I wanted to buy a nice house so I could adopt that little flower girl from that city with “The butcher” (that I murdered). I just really felt like I could not go to bed until I’d murdered enough random strangers to afford the best of everything for her 🤣 This is particularly hilarious as IRL, I am soooo not the maternal type. Never had kids, hate it when I get stuck watching my friends kids. But a Dickensian orphan girl on the cold streets with a serial killer and misogynistic guards running around? Nah, fuck that. I can stay up until dawn for her. LOL
@@secredeath I JUST DOWNLOADED IT THE OTHER DAY! I actually paid money for it, too, which shocked the hell out of me, I don’t even buy things like clothes or shoes usually, but I decided if this is my life now, I better commit!! It’ll be months before I get to it, knowing me. LOL I had to start over with a new character bc I locked myself out of too many challenges, but I still adopted sofie!! Not Lucia, tho. What a brat. But I’m still a Breton, I just gave her light hair like mine, and made her less angry looking, so instead of Lucia (My original character name, named after the saint. As I’m tore her own eyes out), I am now Erleichda. Cause she’s the same character but less confused and stressed and with lighter hair…somebody will eventually get that.
Master Neloth over Vanus Galerion is a crime. Neloth is a researcher, an enchanter, a doctor, but his actual mastery of the schools of magic...is it really that far above what you'd expect from a Telvanni master? But I get it^^ Also honorable mention the jumping dude in a colovian cap near Seyda Neen, he was gonna become the greatest for sure!
@@masterneloth aw thank you ^.^ you're my favorite elder scrolls youtuber. By the way oddly enough I'm playing skyrim as my witch character right now but while I was watching your video I was playing my mage.
Also can I just say that I found it extremely hilarious that while you were talking about master neloth, all the gameplay footage in the background was just him stabbing people? Lol he's such a powerful mage that he stabs people with swords and knives instead of casting spells!
I'm surprised no one mentioned Zurin Arctus, who is responsible for powering the numidium which conquered tamriel, and subsequently 1v1ing the numidium, which conquered tamriel.
I feel like it’s definitely some high elf chilling in the west somewhere, immortal and nearly all-knowing. I really want the high elves to be fleshed out.
Did you forget zurin arctus or does he not belong on the list due to the restrictions you placed? Cuz I think he is a contender for the greatest mage in elder scrolls.
Zurin Arctus was on the list originally but with a combination of him being a confusing character and wanting to make sure the video wasn’t 40min long I omitted him.
What about Vahlok? If I recall Vahlok was one of if not the strongest of the dragon priests, and was the one who managed to defeat Miraak. From what I recall it was their battle that created the Island of Solstheim.
An Orc will see a Dunmer tear down their stronghold with destruction magic and still say “he is too frail to wield a blade.”
Ah good old wizardposting 😂
Until the very same Dunmer pulls out a bound sword
@@DronesOverTheMoon”He is too frail to work the forge”
Nords will watch a Breton evaporate a bandit watch tower and still say, "Cast your fancy magic somewhere else"
Dunmer will see you cleave a man in two with a greatsword and say "he doesn't have the intellect to use magic
Azudal was the first person to do the alchemy enchanting glitch
I knew it
🤣🤣🤣
truly the most powerful
Not a glitch
It's not a glitch, it's a feature...
Mannimarco casted Soaltrap on a dead mud crab so many times that he became wise and powerful enough to alter the space-time continuum and ascend into Atherius.
Soaltrap? You mean Soup Trap?
@@FgyjtIngenieroEuropeo no, soaltrap, you fetcher!!
@@FgyjtIngenieroEuropeo Nope. That was the name of his custom conjuration training spell
Nords: Make fun of mages
Mages: Casually defeat armies, create cities, and piss off gods all by themselves.
i mean, Nords are mostly brawn over brain type.
like Onmund said : If you can't swing it over your head and crack skulls with it, most Nords want nothing to do with it.
Also Nords: That still only counts as one!
*With magic
This comment honors the sixth house and the tribe unmourned
Also some of the greatest Human Mages of the First Era were Nords
The worm king saw me. I was invisible but he looked right at me.
Poor J'skar
He lost everything and all his buddies
Mfw detect life
This is worded so well
NGL i would've shat myself if i was invisible yet some guy who burned my guild, slaughtered my friends then stared right into my eyes, when I'm invisible....
As the only person alive who has played Arena I am disappointed to not see Jagar Tharn on here.
This comment honors the sixth house and the tribe unmourned
All Jagar Tharne did was use illusion and mysticism to replace the emperor (temporarily).
Not really a big deal in the world of magic.
@ChaotiX1 yeah but he didn't get caught for 7 years which means he's either goated or the Emperor was an asshole and they considered the 7 years a break.
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Jagar speaks to you telephathically from across the continent, summons powerful demons from another realm and plops them ontop of your character, locked the king in another realm, and (I think) creates a barrier around Cyrodil's castle.
Pretty sure he ripped the magic from the Staff of Chaos.
He's also stronger than 5 liches, and can create a barrier around himself which makes him nearly invincible.
He only used mysticism? Please...
@@Westile this is giving me "DO NOT INCITE TO ME THE SACRED TEXT WITCH. I WAS THERE WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN". Salute to you though for being a true diehard Elder Scrolls fan.
You know, Divayth Fyr is in another dymension... he's technically not in tamriel, making Neloth the greatest mage alive in tamriel
um question dose solstheim count as tamriel I mean defently nirn just not sure tamriel
@@shawngill9286Solstheim used to be attached to Skyrim but was blown away by the duel between Vahlok the Jailor and Miraak
Solstheim is legally part of morrowind at this point and was part of skyrim in the past so I'm pretty sure it's part of tamriel
@@QutalToddHoward i mean culturally definitely but if it was broken off from skyrim could just be its own microplate now so something separate now
Hi
something your forgot to put into account is that shalindor literally made his own plane of oblivion.
Is that true? That's awesome
Yes, he did in eso. And you can buy as real state
One cool thing I want to add about Divayth Fyr is that his Daedric Artifacts are just sitting in his house. There is no quest or hoops you have to jump through to get them. He just says if you can open a master lock and not die to explosive traps in them you can keep them. Meaning he cares so little about them that he will let the first person who can unlock the chests keep them.
It's not even that he doesn't care about the artifacts, it's that he's set them up in a little game with the artifacts as prizes. The catch is you have to get past the nasty security of a bored millenia-old wizard, plus the risk of corprus. There's a reason he still has those artifacts, after all. Nerevarine is just built different.
In a way he acts just like any player character. You collect all these legendary artifacts, just to stash them in a chest in your house. And we have to admit, if we could lock chests and construct traps, we would.
@@HappyBeezerStudiosin morrowind you could lock your storage with a spell
@@noobgun12but You couldnt convince npc to collect them
I will say though in Morrowind the fact there are like 5 quests to kill Neloth (Some are cut and optional) But still the fact he survived so many means he is clearly talented in defending himself and fighting with magic as well as his research and understanding later in Skyrim.
My death was greatly exaggerated
House Telvanni - you either die young or live long enough to get good
“YOU THINK I WOULDN’T PROTECT MYSELF?! YOU THINK I WOULDNT TAKE PRECAUTIONS?!”
You know how in the destruction master quest you have to place a book on some pedestals and blast it with magic? The text that shows up is from Shalidor, shit-talking the master spells.
The strongest spells in Skyrim are trash in Shalidor’s eyes, that’s how insane he is.
I agree with him. I found the Master tier spells quite underwhelming
The master level spells, at least how they are implemented in Skyrim, would be seen as trash by most.
@@TattleDelta gameplay =/= lore
@@Scowleasyaka "my head cannon is what matters, not yours"
@@toastedt140actually what it really means is that while ingame the Master Destruction spells suck ass (Which is completely Bugthesda's fault), Master spells in the lore should be significantly more powerful and, well, destructive.
i loved how they represented the power difference in eso, for as powerfull as fyr is he was struggeling to keep the darkness back and sotha sil casually swept it away
Still impressive he could resist and it only threatened him once tbf, and the fact that both Sotha Sil, The Telvanni, The Mages Guild,The Psijic Order and Daedric Princes both fear and respect him and his power and knowledge says something about this ancient wizard.
dont get me wrong for a mortal he is very very very very respectable and im sure he couldve easily saved himself, but he was protecting 3-4 other people aswell ofcourse. but besides that i like how they show that as powerful as he is he is still a mortal (even if one of if not the most powerfull alive)
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Sotha Sil isn't using his own power and without Kagrenac he wouldn't have access to Lorkhan's power
I disagree about Ahzidal not creating anything new. The Ring of Arcana gives its wearer two entirely unique spells: Ignite and Freeze. While they are both apprentice level spells, this, to me, indicates he may have more spells, including the entirely unique and unlearnable enchantments he has on his relics. A chance to paralyze attackers, waterwalking without being a vampire or needing a potion, rigging your raised undead to explode, and adapting how runes/wards work all show that he didn’t just learn magic that existed, he knew how to change it to his needs, showing levels of creativity beyond what the Dragonborn is capable of.
i was expecting the video to end on a "Well of course I know him, he's me" gag but this was way more interesting and really cool great video man!
Fun fact: in TESO Fyr refers himself as "mage possessing NEARLY god powers", and in Morrowind his character has all the stats of 99-98/100 :D
At least he is humble enough about himself and doesn't overemphasize. He knows his limitations.
And what even is a god. Are the daedric princes gods? They might not've created the world, but are in the same "tier" in the cosmic hierachy as those who did. And a mortal can assume their position when acting the part. The tribunal are worshipped as gods, but their power isn't unlimited. Dagoth Ur refers to himself as a god, but is defeated. And the Septim bloodline is strong enough to defeat Molag Bal.
So Tyr might as well be one step away from being a god.
Nords recent anti magic sentiment REALLY stops making sense when you remember that arch mage shalidor built winterhold. Magic has always had its place in nordic culture.
Gen Z Nords are stupid.
Imagine the look on the face of some tough guy anti-magic Nord who finally gets past Tsun on the whale bone bridge after a few attempts, then sees archmages wondering around in the Hall of Valor and realizes they had to fight Tsun, too. 🤣
That was so long ago in the citizens eyes that was way before they were alive
Just found ur channel and I instantly went “wait MASTER NELOTH??” As the usual Master Neloth appreciator
Thank you Bella Goth from the Sims!
It is a crime that Zurin Arctis was not on this list. Even if we discount him being one-third of the god Talos and the feats of the Underking, the fact that he created the Mantella and reactivated THE NUMIDIUM should absolutely put him in the running. But I do agree that Divath Fiyr is probably a better Mage overall.
The man killed ysmir wukfharth, beats Numidian in a fight, and wrote the elder scrolls version of the art of war. Zurich Arctus is just too cool
he was the first I thought of when I read the video title
@@plasticize1016 same, after Divath I thought he would be No. 0 or something
You forgot j'zargo
the greatest mage to ever live
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I guessed Divath Fyr immediately as someone who has played Morrowind
While I've not finished the video yet; My vote is for Mannimarco. Dude set out to become a God, and it worked. It worked so well he got split in two.
Yep - as soon as he said who's the greatest mage I said Mannimarco, hands down. He doesn't have power _rivaling_ or _comparable_ to that of a god, he has so much power he actually became one.
Not really because of elder scroll lore basically he is both god and not a god.
Gotta admit, Neloth irritated me on my first playthrough. The second time I "accidentally" tried to get rid of him. Repeatedly. Now I enjoy him and his sarcasm 😁.
Can’t get rid of the king 😎
You like him because he's one of the few characters with an actual character. And doesn't go like. Hello fellow stranger, let me lick your boots and give you all of my gold, ohhh hero of Skyrim 😂
Barely into this video and I've got popcorn lol! You're too underrated!
Hope the popcorn was enjoyable!
strongest milk drinkers
stealth archers are the biggest milk drinker, thats why i go with two handed orc
That's a bit of an oxymoron
I'd say orc stealth wizards are the *biggest* milk 🍼 drinkers
@@IdioticGooberroyou role play in Skyrim g. Can’t be plying one thing the whole time
Milk make your bones stronger tho
"I'm not going to include gods or psyjic mages"
2 seconds later: "Here's a guy who was a psyjic mage and ascended to godhood"
lol
To be fair, he was expelled from the Psyjiic Order and he both did and didn't become a god, so.
I would like to nominate the Augur of Dunlain. His power became so great that he transcended physical form!
His soul burned away his body
Shalidor, sitting up from his coffin: Heard you were talkin shit.
Neloth's greatest achievement is being the target of 2 different murder quests in Morrowind, yet canonically survives at least into the events of Skyrim. If you joined great house Telvanni and do the chore he asks, he "rewards" you 10gp. That, coupled with the Telvanni's lax stance on murder "whoever survives clearly had a better argument" I (and likely many others) killed Neloth out of principle. Divayth Fyr also regularly travels to and within Oblivion, authors many lore books, has in his possession the cuirass of saviors hide, volendrung, an amulet that teleports you to a Dremora that wields potentially the only Daedeic Crescent blade not destroyed after the fall of the battlespire, a full suit of Daedric armor (including the only pauldrons in the pre-dlcMorrowind) and as you mentioned scourge. Divayth is requested to take an active role in the Telvanni council but rejects the proposal, indicating ambitions that supercede politics. Also, in favor of Neloth, he seems to be studying Azra Nightcaller, a shadow mage (noticably absent from your list) who discovered shadows are chaotic reflections of potential outcomes. He, through shadow magic, fuses himself with every other possible version of himself (in a pseudo-multiversal way)
Nice video though.
I imagine Zurin Arctus is up there since he 1v1 the numidium and won. Also probably became a god after the warp in the west
Yeah he managed to kill ysmir wukfharth, beat Numidium, and wrote the elder scrolls art of war. Zurich is easily one of the coolest characters in the whole series
Aye good job dude, this is stuff to be proud of!
The warp of the west is such a "we couldn't agree on a cannon playthrough, and you dont care" solution to a cannon playthrough problem.
Let's not kid ourselves, the greatest mage is the warrior build DB. Just cast a few healing spells during the CoW quests and you become Arch Mage. All the while crushing all those backpedaling mages' skulls with Spellbreaker and the Mace of Molag Bal. 👍
Dragonborn: I swing my sword and make them disappear, MAGIC !
"I cast mace to the face!"
When my friends what my favorite school of magic is, my answer is always the same:
"Sword."
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If we take Elder Scrolls Legends in consideration, then yes, Divaith Fyr is still alive. There's a quest in which he appears.
Btw, shame you didn't mention Vanus Galerion...
I don’t think Divayth was confirmed alive in Legends, just one of his clones.
The thing with Vanus is.. he was talented, smart, and very powerful, but not as powerful as the people mentioned in this list, the people in this list are second to magna-gees when it comes to magical power and talent.
It only seems in the recent centuries that Nords started to actively shun and fear magic.
At least two of some of the arguably greatest mages in history were Nords. The Clever Men, who had roots in Atmora and worshipped Jhunal (Nordic version of Julianos), as well as the Dragon Priests were notoriously powerful magic-users. To this day no decent Jarl of high standing would go without a Court Wizard at his disposal or turn their nose up at enchanted armor and weapons provided by the mages of Winterhold.
The College of Winterhold is said to be one of the greatest institutions of magical learning for millennia. It is unfortunate that Bethesda really did not do it justice with its implementation and quest lines. It would have been nice to see Winterhold in its prime. From the description in _The Waking World,_ Winterhold was quite magestic and wondrous to behold before the Great Collapse.
I'm having some good fun playing as a Nord war wizard currently; it's the best of Conan the Barbarian and Gandalf mixed together.
Yeah the only wizard there that seems worth his salt is the conjuration wizard.
Shalidor and Ahizidal is my favorite from a bye gone era stand point
Ahzidal is the oldest of the people listed, being born in the late Merethic Era, Divayth Fyr being born in the early 1st Era.
Mannimarco himself hasn’t been done much justice outside Daggerfall, at least visually. His look in ESO is even more ridiculous to me than his look in Oblivion. His ESO appearance looks like a design from one of his thirsty fangirls.
Yeah it was weird seeing Mannimarco as a Boy Toy, Skeletal Lich, and then a balding elf…
Mannimarco just had that modded Imperious Altmer+Wintersun Auriel +30% combo on his Conjuration-
Shalidor was a master caster that got slapped with that idiot stick.
Azidal was just that guy that can score well on tests without much or any studying.
Neloth is actually pretty interesting, despite lacking the raw power of some of the others.
Then there's the dude who was so badass that he decided the only woman that could handle him was himself to the power of four
The annoyance in your voice at 15:08 killed me.😂
Would love to see more of this content.
I mean it's not really debatable that Lord Fyr is the greatest and strongest mage of all elder scrolls history
Obviously my orc character, who only cast heals and soultraps but is still archmage!
12:12 genuine question, if a staff enchanter is such a feat, then how are staffs so commonplace in Skyrim? where do they come from? shipped over from summerset isle?
So, how does the phygic order's magic differs from normal magic?
Nords mock mages, and yet the Halls of Sovngarde celebrate them like comrades in arms.
I imagine every Stormcloak who ends up there gets a major culture shock.
Bro how tf did you pronounce saviors hide??
No clue I just wing it lol
@@masterneloth lmfao you know how Christian’s say Jesus is their Savior?
Pronounced the same way lol
Good job!
I think you could upload another video on this topic. Couple names missing from the running.
The greatest mage in elder scrolls history? Manninarco. The lich, the god of necromancy, the black moon, the King of Worms! All hail to the Necromancer's Moon! All hail the lich God of all necromancers!
What about vanus Galirion and mankar camoran ?
I love how both Divayth fyr and Neloth are basically player characters.
Surprised there was no Zurin Arctus
This guy's channel has some of the best elders scrolls content that I've seen in a while, you earn a sub my friend love your editing style and sence of humor, keep it up my guy!
What about Sotha Sil and Mankar Camoran?
Staves, bruv, loved the video
that intro got me thinking that i'm losing my marbles
The augur of dunlain infused himself with the eye of magnus
This is the first video I’ve seen from you, and I had a double take cause I thought that I had found the tasting history guy’s secret channel lol
There is a cabin called drelas' cottage. The alchemist inside beat the **** out of me. I was like level 30. He uses master destruction spells. I found he randomly and thought he was some named NPC with a quest back when I was like 10.
He probably scales in relation to your level. He has had decent or high level spells, but I've never seen him do Master Level ones. Wish we had a story for him
@@ashtonpeterson4618 yeah would have been a good side quest boss.
Watching the B roll I would have thought this was a ‘which mage is the best at non magical combat’ video.
Omg I recognize that song at the end! That's from Arena isn't it? The tavern music?
At 1:30 to around 2:10 you repeat the same thing twice. I'm guessing a slip-up in the editing.
You should do more on Divayth Fyr, its funny how badass he is lol.
I think it is impossible to make out a single greatest mage. You could look at the greatest mage in specific fields though.
For example, I thin sotha sil is the greatest enchanter. Kagrenac crossed my mind first, but he only created the tools to manipulate the heart of Lorkhan. Sotha Sil created basically a second heart to power his clockwork city.
Mannimarco is the greatest necromancer, obviously.
Fyr the greatest Daedrologist and likely summoner. Also Fyr might be the most experience researcher of magic, given his very diverse achievements. Though maybe healing corupus and creating clones fall in a similar category, so maybe he is the greatest alchimist?
Shalidor, I do not really know. Since he defeated an entire dwemer clan by himself, he seems to be very adapt at destruction magic. But hard to tell.
Ahzidal I would call the greatest progidy mage in tamriel history. And the most versatile, maybe even more than fyr. Mostly because he studied basicly every school of magic of his time in the lifespan of a nord. Though, I assume this makes him more of a master of all trates, greatest of none.
Neloth, while of course a powerful one, I do not see him overshadow any of the above.
Where's my Vanus Galerion mention? You brought up Mannimarco but not my boii Vanus?! The disrespect 😂
I agree. Definitely not as powerful as the others on this list; not even close. However, I think he deserves an honorable mention at the very least due to his impact on the culture of magic in Tamriel in the founding of the Mages’ Guild.
He was on the list but he simply didn’t make the final cut lol
i can't wait for " who is the greatest rogue "
The greates rogue's would be those that no one knows about, not even the players. Thats how good they are in their job.
In the beginning of the video you repeated the same thing twice about the psijic order not using same magic as Mages 1:31
You know this was something a lot of people mentioned for weeks but now I decided to fix it. should be better I don’t know how that got through my “rigorous” screening lol.
Incredible channel, incredible channel.
I haven't seen the video yet but Hermaeus Mora aka Herma Mora aka the anime tentacle demon of knowledge and secrets probably is up there considering even Master Neloth explains they know vastly more than him in Solstheim DLC in Skyrim.
aka unwanted only fan aka frickin' slow talker aka most obvious villain ever.
@@chadharger9323I mean hermaeus mora is hardly a villain lol he literally only helps and compliments you throughout the game. He isn’t good by any means but it’s a stretch to say he is outright evil either
Erm, awesome video as always but at 02:02 you repeat a whole chunk….?
before watching im just flat out gonna say Mannimarco, bro became a literal god of necromancers
I went to shalidor maze thinking that's the way to something i can't remember when i can just walk around it
Maybe the great collapse happened because the spell Arch Mage Shalidor used to build winterhold gave out finally.
If this is true in a way it kinda is the college’s fault but not the present day college of winterhold.
Omgggg, I haven’t even heard of most of these yet!! I am so hooked on this game, it’s not even healthy. Like, I went to a doctor’s appt, ran some errands, and did some cleaning today, but then I sat my ass down and played FOR NINE HOURS STRAIGHT, all bc I wanted to buy a nice house so I could adopt that little flower girl from that city with “The butcher” (that I murdered). I just really felt like I could not go to bed until I’d murdered enough random strangers to afford the best of everything for her 🤣 This is particularly hilarious as IRL, I am soooo not the maternal type. Never had kids, hate it when I get stuck watching my friends kids. But a Dickensian orphan girl on the cold streets with a serial killer and misogynistic guards running around? Nah, fuck that. I can stay up until dawn for her. LOL
Have you played oblivion?
@@secredeath I JUST DOWNLOADED IT THE OTHER DAY! I actually paid money for it, too, which shocked the hell out of me, I don’t even buy things like clothes or shoes usually, but I decided if this is my life now, I better commit!! It’ll be months before I get to it, knowing me. LOL I had to start over with a new character bc I locked myself out of too many challenges, but I still adopted sofie!! Not Lucia, tho. What a brat. But I’m still a Breton, I just gave her light hair like mine, and made her less angry looking, so instead of Lucia (My original character name, named after the saint. As I’m tore her own eyes out), I am now Erleichda. Cause she’s the same character but less confused and stressed and with lighter hair…somebody will eventually get that.
How are the guards misogynistic? Racist, yeah absolutely, but I've never heard them say or seen them do anything misogynistic.
I love how in vanilla Skyrim you can cast spells without spending magicka and be passively immune to magic cast against you if you're a vampire mage.
Idk. My character in Morrowind made a spell that would soul trap, burn, paralyze, and master lock an entire town simultaneously.
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Master Neloth over Vanus Galerion is a crime. Neloth is a researcher, an enchanter, a doctor, but his actual mastery of the schools of magic...is it really that far above what you'd expect from a Telvanni master? But I get it^^
Also honorable mention the jumping dude in a colovian cap near Seyda Neen, he was gonna become the greatest for sure!
Damn I love your content
Damn I love you
@@masterneloth aw thank you ^.^ you're my favorite elder scrolls youtuber. By the way oddly enough I'm playing skyrim as my witch character right now but while I was watching your video I was playing my mage.
''he spent all his time learning things already known'' - mic drop
Also can I just say that I found it extremely hilarious that while you were talking about master neloth, all the gameplay footage in the background was just him stabbing people? Lol he's such a powerful mage that he stabs people with swords and knives instead of casting spells!
divayth fyr no doubt, auger of dunlain if they don't have to maintain their physical form
Lol my first thought was Sil when the video first started.
Never thought I’d see John Mulaney talk about Elders Scrolls
you repeat yourself from 1:32 to 2:14 but keep up the good work 🤍🤍
Thought I backtracked accidentally, thanks lol
I was scared I did something like that, oh well lol
@@masternelothclearly the Psijic Order rewinded time to mess with you
"This is not a ranked video."
"Coming in at #1: Neloth."
any thoughts about Archmage Giermund?
Always loved divayth
I'm surprised no one mentioned Zurin Arctus, who is responsible for powering the numidium which conquered tamriel, and subsequently 1v1ing the numidium, which conquered tamriel.
The Nerevarine is the most powerful image in Tamriel history if you let them be.
Cool channel Master Neloth 😎
I feel like it’s definitely some high elf chilling in the west somewhere, immortal and nearly all-knowing. I really want the high elves to be fleshed out.
Who is the most powerful vampire in the Elder Scrolls?
Ooooh thats a good one!
Depends. Shall we include Ash Vampires? Or only your standard n’wah vampires?
I thought I was having a stroke when you said the same thing twice in the intro
Did you forget zurin arctus or does he not belong on the list due to the restrictions you placed? Cuz I think he is a contender for the greatest mage in elder scrolls.
Zurin Arctus was on the list originally but with a combination of him being a confusing character and wanting to make sure the video wasn’t 40min long I omitted him.
Ez, its the mage that spams ice storm/fire ball/chain lightning and makes you use up all your potions
What about Vahlok? If I recall Vahlok was one of if not the strongest of the dragon priests, and was the one who managed to defeat Miraak. From what I recall it was their battle that created the Island of Solstheim.
J'zargo is the greatest mage and no one can disagree