I appreciate your honest review. I like that you didn't shy away from pointing out things that need improvement. I watched another review of this pedalboard and they just praised it like it was the best thing since sliced bread. Thank you for informing your viewers about everything, good or bad.
19:48 This is actually the key to amazing tones on the Headrush. 1 amp into 2 cabs with different mic settings and stereo output makes all the amps sound bigger and more 3D than anything else on the market. Most people don't know to try this, however.
Your reviews are always the best and something I look forward to. Great job! Also, your mixing abilities and the sound you get from any device is beyond what I hear from most YT channels. I was wondering if you would consider doing an “update” for how you record your songs and common plugins/Eq’s you use, etc? It would be cool to see your workflow for your DAW. 👍🏻
Second this. The SDS videos with a Helix Amp on stock settings into an Ownhammer IR sound better than anything I ever put together. There is a widespread public opinion that the Helix amp models themselves are inferior to Axe FX, but yours sound better. After YT compression, through computer speakers. You're doing something we're not.
John, I rarley post comments as I am not too much into these things! I have been following the channel for a couple years now and I always admire your objectivity, your humility, the quality of your tones (I wish I would as good!), the quality of riffs, I could keep going on! Bottom line, you rock, more people should subscribe to this channel as the quality on information is ver good!
Had mine a couple of days now, first thing it did was a firmware update. So far I’m pretty happy, cloned three valve amps which sound as good as my Kemper profiles do. It’s not got as many amps or effects as my helix but the modelling sounds are on par with my helix/GT1000. One thing that I’ve noticed is how I seem to find the sound I’m looking for fairly quickly, that fist day I was spending far more time playing guitar than fiddling with tones which I do on my other units. I probably spent a couple of hours just looping and improvising , the next day I put a few backing tracks I’ve made on a usb stick and spent half the day just Jamming along to songs. I’ve also cloned a couple of pedals which worked well, one needed some tweaking to get it right. But most of all I like that I’m spending more time playing and less time tone chasing, but still happy with the tones Ive created 🙂
Revalver got today's tones, 15 years ago in mk3 version! First IR cab sim, first real amp emulation, and it still sounds good comparing with today's sims!
I think the cloned version of the MT15 sounded a little muffled, some of the high end clarity was missing. On it's own it's probably fine but back to back it was noticeable. With the fidelity of the recent ToneX captures, it sounds like HeadRush has some ground to make up. Still a great feature that puts it up there with QuadCortex but for a decent price discount. It looks like they took square aim at Helix with this one.
From my understanding you can play around with EQ, Sag, Chug etc in the capturing section. So i think you can get it still way closer to the original, but it sounded already great to me the way he used it! The ToneX on the other hand i sent back because i felt it sounded a bit "soulless" and kinda the same "feel" on all Captures, oh - and no Effects (except a bit of Reverb + Compressor), no further tweakability (because basically you are tweaking a "Snapshot" of a sound which limits the tweaking) and some other things. BTW i don't profile my own Amps because i only have one left not gigging anymore - so this is not my main focus. For me the new Headrush looks more promising - and should be at my door by next week 🙂 But everbody is different!
Also , imho, good question how many captures were done? As I heard for Kemper you need to do it sometimes more than once to get a good tone. P.S. I never have a "capture-device" but thinking about this one or QC. And what I saw from youtube videos even QC sometimes produce low quality captures due to fact that there is a lot of variables in this thing
Thanks for the in depth review on this modeler. I felt you were talking to experienced players and strictly guitar effects only. I was hoping you would touch on the vocal side of the device which is 95% of the reason why I'm interested in it. I don't know of any other modelers who have this feature, it even has auto tune for those of us who need the assist. Thanks for the review. You're is the most critical I've watched so far, I feel you're quite the perfectionist, I wish I had your skills to think that way.
Yeah I totally hear something missing in the 800hz, and the 1k-2k ranges for sure. That is the magic part that is missing, and the Tonex and NAM have that down. At least vs the Kemper the profile sounds way more dynamic. Looks overall though like this is a very promising pedal, especially with the much underrated ReValver 4 stuff. I just wonder if you can tweak the amps like you can in ReValver 4, because changing out the tubes or making your own amp schematics are nothing short of amazing. Either way, this is a Helix killer for sure!
Thanks for doing this review I actually really liked your MT 15 tone. I like it starting out a bit dark n use EQ to dial in. Awesome tones and playing on everything here. Kck ass review bro 😎👊
Like always it was a great, honest and objective review While pointing your thoughts and critics you avoid praising or thrashing... As I searched, I just noticed and wondered 🤔 there is no PC/MAC/Android/IOS or ... software editor for this unit (which is big pedalboard) for remote off-floor editing !! Am I right ?!?!
I heard it exactly the way he described. Tiny loss of low end clarity, noticable upper mids rounded off. Still close enough, and pretty good. Minor EQ adjustment, and it'd be fine.
uh thats a lot of money at least here in germany but there are so many products of the same kind out there right now you can really get lost in comparing features sounds prices and the reviews are also very mixed and most likely commercial based ..i think the marked is a bit overloaded with this new digital stuff, same for pedals and the prices are just insane imo, i think i will stay with my good old rocktron prophesy just forever! piece and thanks again 🙏🎸
This is looking very promising. While I do favour the high gain offerings with the Helix, the potential with this one in terms of amp cloning, takes things to another level.
I have this device (recently). I would suggest perhaps reviewing again with 3.1 firmware. I know it seems pricey but in reality it is cheap comparatively to most musicians purchase. Also, I have the H&K deluxe 40 you reviewed. Ty for that review also.. love it.
Great review as always. How does it sound in a live environment-either 4CM or return of amp? Most reviews of modelers and floor units go direct in to interface. Always sounds good. But there’s a big group of players that want to use these units live. Before plunking down my cash, I want to know if this can generate an authentic 5150 sound through a guitar cabinet or frfr speaker. Thanks!
Thanks Jon. This is a great start for them for this product. As we know with other competing products, software can be upgraded and features can be improved. The Helix has come along way since it was introduced. I just hope they back this product better than they did with their other line.
@@SonicDriveStudio Hey, since you have one, could you clarify if it comes with Revalver models and that's it OR if you can load VSTs and plug them? There's a lot of information circulating.
@@moroboshidan7960 ruclips.net/video/1CXgEuOUVcA/видео.html Those amps all have familiar names, looks like ReValver to me. I can't imagine they can have a VST insert/host of any sort in there though.
unit sounds very good - watched a couple others (video's) on the new prime and the patches sounded really good - lots of features - Jon your opinion holds a lot of weight - because of the size of this unit would be best for the home studio or stay at home in rehearsal area -
I think that this is great piece of gear, especially features for the price - CLONE AMP !!! It is good for the customers that not only KEMPER, QC and AXe FX has a monopoly for the good digital sounds..
John, please make a video on the free plugin Neural Audio Modeler. This beats all other modelers, captures and the tests comparing it with Kemper and AxeFx are incredible. Better then those profiler models.
Great channel. Great riffs. Great tones on all videos. You rock in doing back to back comparisons. In this video they sound close however i hear a healthier amount of mid lows and lows on the real amp that the clone seems to miss on. Prefer the amp sounds.
I specially enjoyed the sound samples, as always highly professional with being able to reproduce for everyone tbh --> stereo double recorded guitar is the only way to go
great video Jon. Could you use this machine to play backing tracks from a gigging perspective? (like the VLX3) I can't find any reference anywhere to the internal storage capacity of the machine for MP3 or WAV files. I note that there's the option to bluetooth to a device (let's say an iPad). If this machine couldn't hold all the tracks, do you think you could instead stream a backing track from a bluetooth device and use it that was as backing track player?
I order the Headrush Core to be deliver this monday coming up. I'm a Metal, Death Metal player but new on this IR, cabs download stuff etc. What IR and cabs should I get??
I e been playing the HR pedal board for years and I still absolutely love it. I’ll probably buy this one, cause I’m a singer/guitarist, so it has some pretty cool features for me. I just wish they hadn’t gone with that cheap/tacky gold knob Marshall look :/
@@SonicDriveStudio I’m sure it’s sturdy, I just don’t like the look. I’ve always thought those knobs on the Marshalls look cheap and I’m curious why they copied it.
Question. And the manual did not seem to cover it... Is it possible to have all 12 footswitches turn on/off effects in one patch instead of having some them assigned to up/down and tap tempo? Thanks for your time. Have a great day
Great video, but i'd like to ask, because im on my way of buying one of this new pedalboars, in compare what would you recomend, going for this new headrush or the quad cortex, overall there is a gap in the price, do you think this headrush give better fellings than the neural one?? Thanks a lot and greetings from Spain, keep rocking
Let me tell you. I own a quad cortex and the hype doesn't match with the thing. Quality build its nice. Solid metal, quality knobs. But... the QC has some issues with it that they claim they have been working on. 1- there is no computer software to edit, so you must have your QC beside you if you are setting a recording. 2- mine included, seems that a bunch have black light screen leakage on the corners that they have said its a normal thing. For that price, its not acceptable. 3- some people have been having issues with the wifi (not me) Sound quality is nice. Stock presets are nice, but the community is waiting long for the PC editor and their plug-ins compatibility. this could be a game changer, but for the price, i think its a bit too much. Im thinking on selling my QC and getting one of these headrush tbh
Is the Headrush Prime easy to set up? Do you need to have your wi-fi password to start the unit up as soon as you turn it on? Is the Headrush Prime Pedal Board like the original Headrush Pedal Board in terms of setting up all of your effects and having them on the pedal board? Does Headrush Pedal Board have new pedal effects such as acoustic and Drop-Tune and does the digi-tech whammy pedal have harmonizing octaves?
I dont profile my own amps so that is a non issue to me. However I'd be interested how BIG the market place and how good "pro" captures will be with this unit. The TONEX stuff I have heard is indeed top notch, I am thinking this could potentially be as good, if captured correct.
What do you have on your lpc just past the nut? I am curious because I see a lot of products to deal with the string angle and that ever awful G string on the LP.
Really nice. Seems that you get the sound that you want from any unit out there:) I assume you are using the open C tuning? Just started experimenting with it as I dug into some of Devin Townsend's songs.
Hey Jon, what about the volume that is needed to get this sound from Headrush, through amp or PA? Can this be used on the home volume level? You've recorded all these great, but tbh, you're able to do it with far less capable equipment. Thanks in advance!
Jon sorry for another Q - does it have a detuner ? I saw mention he uses a plugin in Logic sometimes to detune especially if he’s playing a flod rose etc equipped guitar.
Could you clone amp sim? I have this one particular amp Sim on my PC that I love the sound of and I was wondering if I could actually clone that sound as well or does it have to be a physical amp?
@@SonicDriveStudio I'm generally fairly sensitive to latency, even a few ms can be distracting and make me feel like I'm playing sloppy. Most music shops near me wouldnt stock this kind of thing so tricky to try out in person first. Hopefully something they can address anyway. Their other products have always been updated regularly and well supported so hopefully this is the same.
I hear the same thing with this cloner and all the brands they all sound like the amps but lose a little low mid, mids and presence , can try EQ or a boost pedal or a compressor whatever works .but being an original Headrush pedal board already and this one being much simpler to clone your amps , Prime is very interesting, I also like the IK Tonex but then you need the cables and patching all over the place .
Thanks for the review! What sort of vocal efx are there in the unit? Harmonies? How do they sound? Another question: is the looper one track or more than one track?
I'm not really a singer so I haven't tried the vocal effects. Being from Antares I think you can expect them to sound great though. There is a harmonizer, doubler, stutter, eq, distortion etc. Plenty of dedicated vocal effects!
@@officialWWM yes, but how many tracks? You can layer over one track endlessly, but the real strength of my current TC Helicon VL3X looper is you can lay a 1 bar rhythm track, a 16 bar chord track and a 4 bar chorus, and keep the rhythm track playing while alternating between the A and B parts of the song. And, if desired, all will be midi synced to external clock too. I have the MX5 and its looper is a simple one track thingy
Jon reverb into delay or delay into reverb and why? I'm setting up a new 8 loop switcher and I'd like your opinion if you dont mind. I will be using full midi implementation and I can change the pedal order inside the looper per patch so I'm not married to the pedal order but still id love your input. I really enjoyed the clean sound you had there towards the end of this video. How did you have it setup here?
Hello John, I wanted to ask you if these types of multi-effects pedalboards are thought and designed for studios and monitors? Or how about they are connected directly to tube amps and cabinets (Full Stack) directly to replace the analog effects pedals?
@@SonicDriveStudio How would you configure it if you had a DSL 100HR and 2 Full Stack 4X12 cabins? How could this multi-effects pedalboard be configured?
Sounds awesome. I noticed Andertons also posted a video but yours came into my feed first and tbh id prefer your demo to theirs but i will watch that too. On a side note, what hardware amp and cab switcher do you use ? Cheers from NZ 😎🎸🤘
@@SonicDriveStudio ok. Actually yeah I remember a vid recently watched where you plugged the head into i think an Orange speaker cab. I know there’s one that starts with a K, Swiss made maybe? Anyway your demo of this Headrush unit is awesome. Thx for the cleans with chorus, delay etc. Edit: yhe Jon SDS Clean Ambient at the 18/19 minute mark
@@robgroden Thats true! I'm also quite happy with Tonex. I'm curious how all the different platforms will develop. Kemper had the huge advantage that it was the only profiler for around 10 years and it has so many good, commercial and non-commercial profiles. I hope the other platforms will get a lot of good profiles as well
I have the gigboard, and i had an 11 rack before that. I'm always looking for a good headphone solution for convenience or quiet playing. Honestly, i can never get into the sounds of these things. Maybe for recording or going through monitors is another story.
Are you able to use more than one amp in a rig? I don't necessarily use two at the same time but can you have a clean amp in scene 1 and dirty in scene 2? Something like that. Love the videos.
@@SonicDriveStudio Awesome! Thanks for the great content. I've used pretty much all of the mainstream modelers in the past and currently own a Quad Cortex and Helix. Always interested in new tech and seeing what matches my workflow the best. I appreciate the response.
On my little MX5 i can setup the stereo rig path w say a clean fender blackface soaked in air delay and particle reverb on one side and an overdriven 5150 on the other then assign the pedal to sweep and mix between the 2 tones. Great when u goto looper mode you can lay down a clean rythym then just use the treadle pedal to switch to a dirty lead tone wout ever leaving your scene or patch.
Any chance you could do a vid showing this amp clone in real time? There's a few vids showing the cloning and the clone sounds nothing like the real amp. Your clone sounds fantastic. That has me feeling a bit cynical. Would love to see you clone it in real time and see if the results are the same.
I have the Core. Headrush put old cabs, old Models and old revalver Software together with a looper you can get in mx5 for half the price. The only new thing is wlan and cloning. I will send it back and buy a very old Helix, because line6 make a lot of Updates, headrush never did much
At 17:00 you say there is Latency in the clone? are you saying latency during the creation only or are you saying the clone itself after and always will have latency? I cant stand ANY latency, it just clashes with my mental timing to the point that I will not use a device that has it
I've had a HeadRush since 2016 and they have POOR Support... There is NO Cloud so sharing 'Rigs' is not possible. Every time they update the software it seems my Tones change... All this stuff aside the old pedal board is great even though I'm guessing the poor support will now get worse.
Why not make a video with more ordinary sounds for guitars ( electric, acoustic and classical ) and Basses and also for the Voice, in any style... not just Metal ?
the profiler is quite far off, but it's a nice gimmik to have. i can notice the lack of top end even in the full mix, and i haven't even used my good headphones yet. not surprising considering how little time it takes and how little processing power it can utilize, compared to tonex that can leverage your GPU for an hour. overall seems like a good unit, but the profiler in this quality isn't a killer feature imo. not a reason for me to switch away from helix, especially as helix has been incredible in terms of support and updates. I/O seems about in line with the helix LT at a similar price. for a whole new system, i would have expected a bit more tbh. it all feels a bit disjointed and tossed together. the profiling seems a bit tacked on just to fill out the spec sheet, the revalver integration feels kinda strange too, the stock cab selection is very poor compared to the new helix firmwares, and while i think a touchscreen is great i'm kinda baffled that they chose OLED. this display is gonna show so many permanently static elements, burn in will be brutal in a couple of years. might limit the devices useful life span quite a bit.
I actually think that the Cab Selection is way on top of any other Modeller out there! You not only get the Stock Cabs but the Revalver ones as well, then there are hundreds (!) of own Headrush IRs (that always got overlooked by everyone on the Headrush/Gigboard/MX5, but sounded great) and.............................. Headrush are the only devices i know off where you can literally store a nearly endless amount of your own IRs! The Profiling/Capturing thing is not priority for many (like me) who don't profile their own Amp Collection, so it's a nice Addon.
What do you guys think of the Headrush Prime??
Just clicked on the video, so far I’m liking the sound more than the first headrush board. Is this stock sounds or are downloaded IR’s being used?
I probably just need to watch the video all the way through first
@@jm808official I only used stock cabs for the demo except for the amp cloning bit, there I used an OH IR
@@SonicDriveStudio You used stock with the peavey plugin right? That sounded way better than when I had a headrush
@@jm808official I didn't use the ReValver amps in this video but for all the intro stuff it's all stock amps and cabs, no post-EQ
Great review. Amp cloning is close enough that nobody in your paying gigs would ever know. Great unit.
I appreciate your honest review. I like that you didn't shy away from pointing out things that need improvement. I watched another review of this pedalboard and they just praised it like it was the best thing since sliced bread. Thank you for informing your viewers about everything, good or bad.
but he got it free-so no cost to him
@@AA-ih6kt How does that factor into the comment I made?
19:48 This is actually the key to amazing tones on the Headrush. 1 amp into 2 cabs with different mic settings and stereo output makes all the amps sound bigger and more 3D than anything else on the market. Most people don't know to try this, however.
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Your reviews are always the best and something I look forward to. Great job! Also, your mixing abilities and the sound you get from any device is beyond what I hear from most YT channels. I was wondering if you would consider doing an “update” for how you record your songs and common plugins/Eq’s you use, etc? It would be cool to see your workflow for your DAW. 👍🏻
Second this. The SDS videos with a Helix Amp on stock settings into an Ownhammer IR sound better than anything I ever put together. There is a widespread public opinion that the Helix amp models themselves are inferior to Axe FX, but yours sound better. After YT compression, through computer speakers. You're doing something we're not.
That's simply not true
John, I rarley post comments as I am not too much into these things! I have been following the channel for a couple years now and I always admire your objectivity, your humility, the quality of your tones (I wish I would as good!), the quality of riffs, I could keep going on!
Bottom line, you rock, more people should subscribe to this channel as the quality on information is ver good!
Thanks!
Your gear reviews are my favorite. You test the product in and out and your playing is awesome!
Thank you! :)
Had mine a couple of days now, first thing it did was a firmware update. So far I’m pretty happy, cloned three valve amps which sound as good as my Kemper profiles do. It’s not got as many amps or effects as my helix but the modelling sounds are on par with my helix/GT1000.
One thing that I’ve noticed is how I seem to find the sound I’m looking for fairly quickly, that fist day I was spending far more time playing guitar than fiddling with tones which I do on my other units. I probably spent a couple of hours just looping and improvising , the next day I put a few backing tracks I’ve made on a usb stick and spent half the day just Jamming along to songs.
I’ve also cloned a couple of pedals which worked well, one needed some tweaking to get it right.
But most of all I like that I’m spending more time playing and less time tone chasing, but still happy with the tones Ive created 🙂
18:02 that sounds EXACTLY like AIC's "We Die Young" guitar tone!! Killer!!
Revalver got today's tones, 15 years ago in mk3 version! First IR cab sim, first real amp emulation, and it still sounds good comparing with today's sims!
I have an AXE FX2 and most of the best/major guitar amp sims.
Peavey ReValver 4 was my 1st VST amp sim, and I still love using it today.
Great review! This is now at the top of my list (:
I think the cloned version of the MT15 sounded a little muffled, some of the high end clarity was missing. On it's own it's probably fine but back to back it was noticeable. With the fidelity of the recent ToneX captures, it sounds like HeadRush has some ground to make up. Still a great feature that puts it up there with QuadCortex but for a decent price discount. It looks like they took square aim at Helix with this one.
From my understanding you can play around with EQ, Sag, Chug etc in the capturing section. So i think you can get it still way closer to the original, but it sounded already great to me the way he used it! The ToneX on the other hand i sent back because i felt it sounded a bit "soulless" and kinda the same "feel" on all Captures, oh - and no Effects (except a bit of Reverb + Compressor), no further tweakability (because basically you are tweaking a "Snapshot" of a sound which limits the tweaking) and some other things. BTW i don't profile my own Amps because i only have one left not gigging anymore - so this is not my main focus. For me the new Headrush looks more promising - and should be at my door by next week 🙂 But everbody is different!
Also , imho, good question how many captures were done? As I heard for Kemper you need to do it sometimes more than once to get a good tone. P.S. I never have a "capture-device" but thinking about this one or QC. And what I saw from youtube videos even QC sometimes produce low quality captures due to fact that there is a lot of variables in this thing
I always liked the amp models in the headrush better than all the other sim/processors. Although I use a helix floor I may have to buy this now.
I'm so tempted even though I love my helix Lt but I want to try a headrush
Thanks for the in depth review on this modeler. I felt you were talking to experienced players and strictly guitar effects only. I was hoping you would touch on the vocal side of the device which is 95% of the reason why I'm interested in it. I don't know of any other modelers who have this feature, it even has auto tune for those of us who need the assist. Thanks for the review. You're is the most critical I've watched so far, I feel you're quite the perfectionist, I wish I had your skills to think that way.
The amp clone is definitely darker with less definition in the high mids. Maybe something that could be slightly fixed with a touch of EQ
Yeah I totally hear something missing in the 800hz, and the 1k-2k ranges for sure. That is the magic part that is missing, and the Tonex and NAM have that down. At least vs the Kemper the profile sounds way more dynamic. Looks overall though like this is a very promising pedal, especially with the much underrated ReValver 4 stuff. I just wonder if you can tweak the amps like you can in ReValver 4, because changing out the tubes or making your own amp schematics are nothing short of amazing. Either way, this is a Helix killer for sure!
Thanks for doing this review I actually really liked your MT 15 tone. I like it starting out a bit dark n use EQ to dial in. Awesome tones and playing on everything here. Kck ass review bro 😎👊
And I was just getting settled in with my ToneX pedal!
Like always it was a great, honest and objective review
While pointing your thoughts and critics you avoid praising or thrashing...
As I searched, I just noticed and wondered 🤔 there is no PC/MAC/Android/IOS or ... software editor for this unit (which is big pedalboard) for remote off-floor editing !!
Am I right ?!?!
Yours sounded so much more spot on than other videos. I might be sold on it. 🤔
This guy is effed up! The amp ab comparison was spot on!
No way. The clone was muffled and had much less high jangle to it. Sounded good in the mix, but definitely noticeably different from the original.
I heard it exactly the way he described.
Tiny loss of low end clarity, noticable upper mids rounded off. Still close enough, and pretty good. Minor EQ adjustment, and it'd be fine.
TBH you've spoiled us all with your ToneX reviews. Those captures are the bomb!
Oooh! Old-ass modeling in a new box?? What a blessing to headrushers!
Great video, as always, Jon! Love your tones, playing and your honesty as well.
uh thats a lot of money at least here in germany but there are so many products of the same kind out there right now you can really get lost in comparing features sounds prices and the reviews are also very mixed and most likely commercial based ..i think the marked is a bit overloaded with this new digital stuff, same for pedals and the prices are just insane imo, i think i will stay with my good old rocktron prophesy just forever! piece and thanks again 🙏🎸
It's still way way cheaper than Kemper, QC, Fractal etc. I just ordered mine today at Thomann! Hopefully it should be here next week 🙂
And another problem here in Germany: you don't get good money if you sell it unlike real amps or high quality stuff.
😊 look up! But it can still be very much worth it
It will never be as good as the quad cortex. Nothing will. I'm so happy I bought a quad cortex.
This is looking very promising. While I do favour the high gain offerings with the Helix, the potential with this one in terms of amp cloning, takes things to another level.
Excellent review!
Very detailed and honest review, good job!
Thanks!
I have this device (recently). I would suggest perhaps reviewing again with 3.1 firmware. I know it seems pricey but in reality it is cheap comparatively to most musicians purchase. Also, I have the H&K deluxe 40 you reviewed. Ty for that review also.. love it.
Great review as always. How does it sound in a live environment-either 4CM or return of amp? Most reviews of modelers and floor units go direct in to interface. Always sounds good. But there’s a big group of players that want to use these units live. Before plunking down my cash, I want to know if this can generate an authentic 5150 sound through a guitar cabinet or frfr speaker. Thanks!
Thanks Jon. This is a great start for them for this product. As we know with other competing products, software can be upgraded and features can be improved. The Helix has come along way since it was introduced. I just hope they back this product better than they did with their other line.
Very nice review! Where do I get the amp clones that were shown in the comparison with the real amps?
Good review, man.i would like to hear how the Revalver models sound.
Maybe I'll do another video on that. They sound pretty cool, just like the plugin. I just personally prefer the stock amps for my personal taste/style
@@SonicDriveStudio Hey, since you have one, could you clarify if it comes with Revalver models and that's it OR if you can load VSTs and plug them? There's a lot of information circulating.
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Those amps all have familiar names, looks like ReValver to me.
I can't imagine they can have a VST insert/host of any sort in there though.
unit sounds very good - watched a couple others (video's) on the new prime and the patches sounded really good - lots of features - Jon your opinion holds a lot of weight - because of the size of this unit would be best for the home studio or stay at home in rehearsal area -
You can use it anywhere like. Wouldn't worry about it
I think that this is great piece of gear, especially features for the price - CLONE AMP !!! It is good for the customers that not only KEMPER, QC and AXe FX has a monopoly for the good digital sounds..
John, please make a video on the free plugin Neural Audio Modeler. This beats all other modelers, captures and the tests comparing it with Kemper and AxeFx are incredible. Better then those profiler models.
Great channel. Great riffs. Great tones on all videos. You rock in doing back to back comparisons. In this video they sound close however i hear a healthier amount of mid lows and lows on the real amp that the clone seems to miss on. Prefer the amp sounds.
Thank you for the honest opinion!
I do notice the CPU usage hovering around 50%, I'm really curious to know what components it's using and how well it works in all temps.
I specially enjoyed the sound samples, as always highly professional with being able to reproduce for everyone
tbh --> stereo double recorded guitar is the only way to go
great video Jon. Could you use this machine to play backing tracks from a gigging perspective? (like the VLX3) I can't find any reference anywhere to the internal storage capacity of the machine for MP3 or WAV files. I note that there's the option to bluetooth to a device (let's say an iPad). If this machine couldn't hold all the tracks, do you think you could instead stream a backing track from a bluetooth device and use it that was as backing track player?
Man this was a great video, thanks for a real look at this unit..... Quick question the very first Jam you played what tuning is your guitar in?
I order the Headrush Core to be deliver this monday coming up. I'm a Metal, Death Metal player but new on this IR, cabs download stuff etc. What IR and cabs should I get??
I was about to buying this but then i saw how fast the DSP go to the limit.. hope they’ll optimize it
I e been playing the HR pedal board for years and I still absolutely love it. I’ll probably buy this one, cause I’m a singer/guitarist, so it has some pretty cool features for me. I just wish they hadn’t gone with that cheap/tacky gold knob Marshall look :/
Fwiw: it feels very sturdy!
@@SonicDriveStudio I’m sure it’s sturdy, I just don’t like the look. I’ve always thought those knobs on the Marshalls look cheap and I’m curious why they copied it.
Question. And the manual did not seem to cover it... Is it possible to have all 12 footswitches turn on/off effects in one patch instead of having some them assigned to up/down and tap tempo? Thanks for your time. Have a great day
So John , which one captures better the headrush or the tonex ?
Nice Review! I can clone amps for Helix, i don't Know when line6 Will gets this tecnology, but i hope so
Great video, but i'd like to ask, because im on my way of buying one of this new pedalboars, in compare what would you recomend, going for this new headrush or the quad cortex, overall there is a gap in the price, do you think this headrush give better fellings than the neural one?? Thanks a lot and greetings from Spain, keep rocking
Let me tell you. I own a quad cortex and the hype doesn't match with the thing.
Quality build its nice. Solid metal, quality knobs.
But... the QC has some issues with it that they claim they have been working on.
1- there is no computer software to edit, so you must have your QC beside you if you are setting a recording.
2- mine included, seems that a bunch have black light screen leakage on the corners that they have said its a normal thing. For that price, its not acceptable.
3- some people have been having issues with the wifi (not me)
Sound quality is nice. Stock presets are nice, but the community is waiting long for the PC editor and their plug-ins compatibility. this could be a game changer, but for the price, i think its a bit too much.
Im thinking on selling my QC and getting one of these headrush tbh
Is the Headrush Prime easy to set up? Do you need to have your wi-fi password to start the unit up as soon as you turn it on? Is the Headrush Prime Pedal Board like the original Headrush Pedal Board in terms of setting up all of your effects and having them on the pedal board? Does Headrush Pedal Board have new pedal effects such as acoustic and Drop-Tune and does the digi-tech whammy pedal have harmonizing octaves?
HeadRush just released firmware ver 3.2. They claim improved cloning. Would make a nice video to see if the cloning has been improved.
Looks like windows 95 with touchscreen 😂😂😂😂 very funny, sorry 😂😂😂 this channel is amazing, also the video explained ❤
Time to sell the helix floor !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😱🤘🤘
Your mix has a very hi-fi sound. Like Rabbea Massad or Fluff.
I dont profile my own amps so that is a non issue to me. However I'd be interested how BIG the market place and how good "pro" captures will be with this unit. The TONEX stuff I have heard is indeed top notch, I am thinking this could potentially be as good, if captured correct.
great equip !
What do you have on your lpc just past the nut? I am curious because I see a lot of products to deal with the string angle and that ever awful G string on the LP.
Really nice. Seems that you get the sound that you want from any unit out there:) I assume you are using the open C tuning? Just started experimenting with it as I dug into some of Devin Townsend's songs.
I want Headrush (UI & features) and Fractal (models/effects) to have a baby 🙂
Sounds Great!
Was the bass done with that too? If so what preset
It's weird cause I can just use Izotope and EQ match a tone and get a closer representation... why is it so hard to incorporate more accurate cloning?
After getting tired of processors and spending $2,500 on pedals, I think I’m going back to this processor
Hey Jon, what about the volume that is needed to get this sound from Headrush, through amp or PA?
Can this be used on the home volume level?
You've recorded all these great, but tbh, you're able to do it with far less capable equipment. Thanks in advance!
Jon sorry for another Q - does it have a detuner ?
I saw mention he uses a plugin in Logic sometimes to detune especially if he’s playing a flod rose etc equipped guitar.
How does latency behave with the latest updates?
That tune from the beginning is 👌 .
Oh, btw : what's your favorite Batman "universe" ? 😊
Love 'em all! :)
@@SonicDriveStudio This answer is so correct))) love it )))
Could you clone amp sim? I have this one particular amp Sim on my PC that I love the sound of and I was wondering if I could actually clone that sound as well or does it have to be a physical amp?
Great review!! Have you tried plugging this in 4 cable method with a real amp, using midi to switch amp channels?
I have not
Hopefully they sort out the latency with captures. I think I'll hold off pulling the trigger until thats addressed as it would drive me nuts.
It's something you should experience for yourself. It might not bother you at all
@@SonicDriveStudio I'm generally fairly sensitive to latency, even a few ms can be distracting and make me feel like I'm playing sloppy. Most music shops near me wouldnt stock this kind of thing so tricky to try out in person first. Hopefully something they can address anyway. Their other products have always been updated regularly and well supported so hopefully this is the same.
I hear the same thing with this cloner and all the brands they all sound like the amps but lose a little low mid, mids and presence , can try EQ or a boost pedal or a compressor whatever works .but being an original Headrush pedal board already and this one being much simpler to clone your amps , Prime is very interesting, I also like the IK Tonex but then you need the cables and patching all over the place .
Hi man! do you think I could clone the Revv amp from my hx stomp?
Does anyone know if HeadRush has a list of the effects and amp/cab models on this unit? I cannot seem to locate it.
The clone is surprisingly close though
What do you have wrapped on your Les Paul headstock? Does that help or stay in tune?
It stops the ringing noise
Thanks for the review! What sort of vocal efx are there in the unit? Harmonies? How do they sound? Another question: is the looper one track or more than one track?
I'm not really a singer so I haven't tried the vocal effects. Being from Antares I think you can expect them to sound great though. There is a harmonizer, doubler, stutter, eq, distortion etc. Plenty of dedicated vocal effects!
The looper can go for 20 minutes and has unlimited layers.
@@officialWWM yes, but how many tracks? You can layer over one track endlessly, but the real strength of my current TC Helicon VL3X looper is you can lay a 1 bar rhythm track, a 16 bar chord track and a 4 bar chorus, and keep the rhythm track playing while alternating between the A and B parts of the song. And, if desired, all will be midi synced to external clock too. I have the MX5 and its looper is a simple one track thingy
@@Jnnskrkskl yep, you can’t do that. The HR looper is more designed as a practice tool for guitar players.
Curious if you discovered any bugs with it whilst playing around with the unit?
Has Headrush sent this thing to anyone who is NOT playing metal?
Jon reverb into delay or delay into reverb and why? I'm setting up a new 8 loop switcher and I'd like your opinion if you dont mind. I will be using full midi implementation and I can change the pedal order inside the looper per patch so I'm not married to the pedal order but still id love your input. I really enjoyed the clean sound you had there towards the end of this video. How did you have it setup here?
I always go delay into reverb
@@SonicDriveStudio i mostly do it the other way round. So everybody is different!
Hello John, I wanted to ask you if these types of multi-effects pedalboards are thought and designed for studios and monitors? Or how about they are connected directly to tube amps and cabinets (Full Stack) directly to replace the analog effects pedals?
You can use it in any way you like. You just have to set up the sounds and rigs accordingly
@@SonicDriveStudio How would you configure it if you had a DSL 100HR and 2 Full Stack 4X12 cabins? How could this multi-effects pedalboard be configured?
Sounds awesome. I noticed Andertons also posted a video but yours came into my feed first and tbh id prefer your demo to theirs but i will watch that too.
On a side note, what hardware amp and cab switcher do you use ?
Cheers from NZ 😎🎸🤘
I don't use a switcher... :)
@@SonicDriveStudio ok. Actually yeah I remember a vid recently watched where you plugged the head into i think an Orange speaker cab.
I know there’s one that starts with a K, Swiss made maybe? Anyway your demo of this Headrush unit is awesome.
Thx for the cleans with chorus, delay etc.
Edit: yhe Jon SDS Clean Ambient at the 18/19 minute mark
😂 “my old QC” 😂
Holy cow, the market is currently flooded with all these profiling amps 😅 almost regretting buying the tonex pedal right now.
Indeed! It will probably be the standard thing for a modeller to have from now on.
I hope it will be a growing trend! I like it :)
I thought the same thing this morning, but it’s still $900 more than the Tonex.
@@robgroden Thats true! I'm also quite happy with Tonex. I'm curious how all the different platforms will develop. Kemper had the huge advantage that it was the only profiler for around 10 years and it has so many good, commercial and non-commercial profiles. I hope the other platforms will get a lot of good profiles as well
I have the gigboard, and i had an 11 rack before that. I'm always looking for a good headphone solution for convenience or quiet playing. Honestly, i can never get into the sounds of these things. Maybe for recording or going through monitors is another story.
@kevone yep. But i use a captor x with my real amps now. Sounds much better
Are you able to use more than one amp in a rig? I don't necessarily use two at the same time but can you have a clean amp in scene 1 and dirty in scene 2? Something like that. Love the videos.
You can!
@@SonicDriveStudio Awesome! Thanks for the great content. I've used pretty much all of the mainstream modelers in the past and currently own a Quad Cortex and Helix. Always interested in new tech and seeing what matches my workflow the best. I appreciate the response.
You can double the amp block, and you can have multiple amp blocks. You can do the same to cabs and IRs. The DSP is the limit.
@@moroboshidan7960 Thank you.
On my little MX5 i can setup the stereo rig path w say a clean fender blackface soaked in air delay and particle reverb on one side and an overdriven 5150 on the other then assign the pedal to sweep and mix between the 2 tones. Great when u goto looper mode you can lay down a clean rythym then just use the treadle pedal to switch to a dirty lead tone wout ever leaving your scene or patch.
Any chance you could do a vid showing this amp clone in real time? There's a few vids showing the cloning and the clone sounds nothing like the real amp. Your clone sounds fantastic. That has me feeling a bit cynical. Would love to see you clone it in real time and see if the results are the same.
Hmm! The PRS MT sounds more "organic" than the HR, sorry! Sounds great, looks cool and lots of features though.
I have the Core. Headrush put old cabs, old Models and old revalver Software together with a looper you can get in mx5 for half the price. The only new thing is wlan and cloning. I will send it back and buy a very old Helix, because line6 make a lot of Updates, headrush never did much
At 17:00 you say there is Latency in the clone? are you saying latency during the creation only or are you saying the clone itself after and always will have latency? I cant stand ANY latency, it just clashes with my mental timing to the point that I will not use a device that has it
The latter
@@SonicDriveStudio Yikes!
the 10 percent 3d transient sizzle missing as in all units like this same with plugins, does it matter to young people, nope it seems
I've had a HeadRush since 2016 and they have POOR Support... There is NO Cloud so sharing 'Rigs' is not possible. Every time they update the software it seems my Tones change... All this stuff aside the old pedal board is great even though I'm guessing the poor support will now get worse.
They do have a cloud service with rig sharing for THIS unit.
@@MeTuLHeD If they do I wonder how long before it disappears like the original HeadRush boards cloud did????
Why not make a video with more ordinary sounds for guitars ( electric, acoustic and classical ) and Basses and also for the Voice, in any style... not just Metal ?
Its bigger than my house, but if they release a gig board version... Pfff
Resume: "Very good, great features and some even unique, but still a product not on par with my Helix, my Fractal and my Tonex"
the profiler is quite far off, but it's a nice gimmik to have. i can notice the lack of top end even in the full mix, and i haven't even used my good headphones yet. not surprising considering how little time it takes and how little processing power it can utilize, compared to tonex that can leverage your GPU for an hour. overall seems like a good unit, but the profiler in this quality isn't a killer feature imo. not a reason for me to switch away from helix, especially as helix has been incredible in terms of support and updates. I/O seems about in line with the helix LT at a similar price.
for a whole new system, i would have expected a bit more tbh. it all feels a bit disjointed and tossed together. the profiling seems a bit tacked on just to fill out the spec sheet, the revalver integration feels kinda strange too, the stock cab selection is very poor compared to the new helix firmwares, and while i think a touchscreen is great i'm kinda baffled that they chose OLED. this display is gonna show so many permanently static elements, burn in will be brutal in a couple of years. might limit the devices useful life span quite a bit.
I actually think that the Cab Selection is way on top of any other Modeller out there! You not only get the Stock Cabs but the Revalver ones as well, then there are hundreds (!) of own Headrush IRs (that always got overlooked by everyone on the Headrush/Gigboard/MX5, but sounded great) and.............................. Headrush are the only devices i know off where you can literally store a nearly endless amount of your own IRs! The Profiling/Capturing thing is not priority for many (like me) who don't profile their own Amp Collection, so it's a nice Addon.
I know nothing about cloning/capturing, so don't laugh too hard:
Can I use this to clone my buddy's Axe FX III? 😂
Presets on all units are created by software engineers, mostly just a starting point. Nobody should judge any unit on presets.
In this link there is no price to be found nowhere.But nice photos.
Some stores like Thomann are already listing it. It's 1249 euros
Sweetwater has it also.
I think this unit is nice, but the amp cloning doesn't sound that great.
The Mooer GE 250 sounds better at cloning amps to me
They are computers..i think they will release improvements
@@Niksounds Let's hope so. The interface is top notch tho
AI is coming for algorithmic saturation programmers.
Revalver was released 9 years ago. Why did they bother putting 9 year old stuff into a brand new hardware unit? Makes no sense.
The software evolves.. we are in 2023