Great content. Nice to see the wide comparison of rigs. Especially with the bronco, when everyone else is showcasing the top of the line then we see what “basic” can really do. Especially since 90% won’t even try this hard. Lol.
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Damn, would have loved to come play in my fully optioned Land Rover defender. It’s a beast off-road and could easily hang with the group. Love the video, enjoy the content.
If you are in SoCal we’d love for you to join us so we can feature your vehicle in a future vid. Defenders are even more rare than Broncos at the moment. www.meetup.com/SCORCH4x4/
I would choose both those 4Runners over the bronco and wrangler. The coolest rig out of all these is def that coveted 2 door 1st gen runner. Looks so good and still killin it
I’m here in SoCal and have a 21 4door BadSquatch 2.7 if you want to run some tests. Also you can quite all those Jeep fan boys whining about SFA when they see it in action.
We see you have taken it to Cleghorn too. It looks pretty tight in that wheel well. We don't see a "send a message" button on your channel but we would love to have your rig along on a ride. Join our group on Meetup then you can send JZ a direct message... www.meetup.com/SCORCH4x4/
Man if you would put a solid axel under that bronco it would be amazing. I just couldn't pay 40k for something that has tires coming off the ground all the time. I know there's a market for IFS but that solid front axel would have been a game changer for a bronco package. Could have put it on the 8.8 axel like the old bronco.
I assume Dodge/Jeep must lobby the market because we don't get many options for 4x4 with solid front axles, but then I look at Australia and am blown away by all the different 4x4's that come stock with solid front axles..
It’s the street-worthiness of the Bronco that’s attracting the crowd. IFS is a challenge off road for sure but you get used to it. We had Nissan Xterra with a Dana 44 on the back and IFS leading the group for years. Definitely not as capable as wranglers all the time but nicer on the drive to and from the rides.
@@SCORCH4x4 well bro u posted a video about the bronco "taking on" beefy wranglers. What little was shown if it "taking on" anything was it with tires in the air. I'm glad it handles well ON road. But you posted and off road video. Personally I drive a wrangler and it isn't as absolutely terrible on the road as they're made out to be. I don't buy an off road vehicle because of it's on road capabilities. Just me tho. I just wanted to see the bronco come with a solid front axel option. Because unfortunately with IFS it's not taking from the jeep market right now and it isn't creating any competition for jeep. At least not last time I did Chinaman's Gulch in Colorado.
A fair question. The video screen is beautiful but the rest of the interior is somewhat basic. The street ride is great with IFS but we saw so many tires in the air on the trails. It’s got lots of great tech but it’s all new so it’s untested in the long run. It’s got lots of options and trim levels but actually getting your hand on the one you want takes a stroke of luck or lots of patience. Equal trade offs exist with the 4Runner and the Wrangler. It was a tough call…
No, but close. We’ve been around for 7 years and finally had the time to launch the channel since our old lead rig died and we are twiddling our thumbs while waiting for a new one.
9:59 for the love of god people, take off the dealer/factory info stickers on the drivers window. I see so many people driving around with these on. Do y’all not like to see outside unobstructed or what?
One of the things you have to understand is jeepers have been working for the last 40 yrs to keep trails open and donating thousands of hours and money.
So he paid $43k for a Black Diamond, with no front locker, a 2.3 4 cylinder engine, tow package , mid package at best, and no other real options? Wow, he got ripped off (and his wife works at the dealership!). I paid $47k for a 2 door OBX 2.7 advanced 4x4 with the Lux and Tow packages. $4k difference and I got a 2.7 engine, the 10 speed auto, the advanced 4x4 transfer case, and the Lux package??? BTW, the Badlands is not pushing 60k in the same configuration.
@@mpeugeot he picked up a Bronco that had been abandoned by the reservation holder. Given the current market, you should absolutely expect to pay ADM if you don't have a reservation.
Toyotas are not keeing-up with Broncos & Jeeps. These are fire trails; live near the Rubicon trail & even the “Toyota” guys here have Chevy engine swaps & solid axle conversions, which means they’re no longer Toyotas at that point - only the body & frame.
Much like the X-Terra we used to have as a lead rig, the platforms has been neglected by the manufacturer. We've saying it for years, but maybe a 6th gen 4Runner will come out soon?
Head scratcher 🤷 no clue why you would compare these? Bunch of highly modified vehicles and a stock Bronco on dirt roads? Surprised you didn’t include a Skottle cook off vs disc blade over and open fire? LMAO 😂🤣
No head scratching necessary. As indicated in the video, bronco owners are rarer than five legged dinosaurs and the only one that showed up had the two door stick shift. In the end it made for a very interesting comparison considering how well the bronco did. However some people may take exception to you referring to Cleghorn Ridge as “a dirt road”. That’s was no walk in the park.
Not all ecoboost are equal (and a minority of 2.7 Broncos have an issue); however, my 2011 total garbage 3.5 Ecoboost has 250k miles on it. Must be a problem.
That 2 door bronco looks awesome and so does that old school 4Runner
That old school 4Runner was a real beast.
Great content. Nice to see the wide comparison of rigs. Especially with the bronco, when everyone else is showcasing the top of the line then we see what “basic” can really do. Especially since 90% won’t even try this hard. Lol.
Thanks. We ended up with a "scaled-down" Bronco almost by accident but in the end it was great showcasing what they are capable of.
Thanks for the video! I really enjoyed it.
Thanks for the compliment. We enjoyed that!
Great quality video and showcase of a manual bronco!
Thanks. Ryan was quite skilled at driving it.
Refreshing to see some 2 door manuals !!.....gets me itchin' to receive my 2 door manual.
We know the feeling of being itchy for a new rig. We are right there with you. Hope yours arrives soon!!!
One of my new favorite off-road channels :) Great content/editing!
We’ll now you are one of our favorite new viewers because of your awesome comment.
Awesome off road, keep going. Absolutely I like your video.😍
Thank you. We learn a little more with each one we produce. It's comments like yours that keep us going!
Great video, just came across it.
I’m in SoCal as well, I’m running a base Sasquatch 4 door, would love to roll out some time
How does tomorrow look for ya'? www.meetup.com/SCORCH4x4/events/283924712/
That 1st gen 4runner!!!! Was awesome
Right?! Caught us off guard too. And only $3k. Doug could have bought three of them with his profit from selling his 5th Gen.
Looks great. I'm in Chino, running a 4 Door Badlands Bronco with Sasquatch, always looking for more chances to hit the trail.
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Nice job! Bronco 4 life!
Spoken like a true fan.
Damn, would have loved to come play in my fully optioned Land Rover defender. It’s a beast off-road and could easily hang with the group. Love the video, enjoy the content.
If you are in SoCal we’d love for you to join us so we can feature your vehicle in a future vid. Defenders are even more rare than Broncos at the moment.
www.meetup.com/SCORCH4x4/
The Bronco isn't going to stay stock for long. It's going to Eibach for R-in-D and I have some other goodies coming in
Can't wait to see the upgrades!
Black diamond is 2 levels above the base. It goes base, big bend then black diamond
Correct! Thanks for clarifying. It was pretty capable.
I wanna see you do the same test after the 300k mile mark on all brands. That's a challenge!
When you guys said a well known trail in SoCal I was wondering if it was going to be Cleghorn.
Cleghorn for the win.
I am probably your best armchair off-roader ,,, this was nice I prefer the red four runner :) Jeep owner btw :) I gave up when fiat got involved
That 4Runner was dope but probably not a lot of running 1st Gen 4runners left for $3k.
I would choose both those 4Runners over the bronco and wrangler. The coolest rig out of all these is def that coveted 2 door 1st gen runner. Looks so good and still killin it
Everyone loves that 1st Gen rig.
I’m here in SoCal and have a 21 4door BadSquatch 2.7 if you want to run some tests. Also you can quite all those Jeep fan boys whining about SFA when they see it in action.
Join our group on Meetup and come to a ride. I’d like to see your rig.
@@SCORCH4x4 Send me some info.
@@SCORCH4x4 Done... look forward to the next ride
If you guys want a new defender on 35s to join you next time, send me a message! Im in Socal as well.
We see you have taken it to Cleghorn too. It looks pretty tight in that wheel well. We don't see a "send a message" button on your channel but we would love to have your rig along on a ride. Join our group on Meetup then you can send JZ a direct message... www.meetup.com/SCORCH4x4/
@@SCORCH4x4 waiting for approval 👍
Man if you would put a solid axel under that bronco it would be amazing. I just couldn't pay 40k for something that has tires coming off the ground all the time. I know there's a market for IFS but that solid front axel would have been a game changer for a bronco package. Could have put it on the 8.8 axel like the old bronco.
I assume Dodge/Jeep must lobby the market because we don't get many options for 4x4 with solid front axles, but then I look at Australia and am blown away by all the different 4x4's that come stock with solid front axles..
It’s the street-worthiness of the Bronco that’s attracting the crowd. IFS is a challenge off road for sure but you get used to it. We had Nissan Xterra with a Dana 44 on the back and IFS leading the group for years. Definitely not as capable as wranglers all the time but nicer on the drive to and from the rides.
@@SCORCH4x4 well bro u posted a video about the bronco "taking on" beefy wranglers. What little was shown if it "taking on" anything was it with tires in the air. I'm glad it handles well ON road. But you posted and off road video. Personally I drive a wrangler and it isn't as absolutely terrible on the road as they're made out to be. I don't buy an off road vehicle because of it's on road capabilities. Just me tho. I just wanted to see the bronco come with a solid front axel option. Because unfortunately with IFS it's not taking from the jeep market right now and it isn't creating any competition for jeep. At least not last time I did Chinaman's Gulch in Colorado.
@@SCORCH4x4 you get used to it until you get tired of breaking crap and want to step up your game, then you SAS.
@@RougaRouKJun I just did Chinaman Gulch recently in my FJ on 33's lol. Wasn't exactly fun, but it did it!
You said you have compromises on each
What are they on the Bronco?
A fair question. The video screen is beautiful but the rest of the interior is somewhat basic. The street ride is great with IFS but we saw so many tires in the air on the trails. It’s got lots of great tech but it’s all new so it’s untested in the long run. It’s got lots of options and trim levels but actually getting your hand on the one you want takes a stroke of luck or lots of patience.
Equal trade offs exist with the 4Runner and the Wrangler. It was a tough call…
I’ll take the 1st Gen 4Runner please. It would look real nice next to my Gladiator 😍
The first gen kinda blew us away.
Is the Ford motor company doing the same program as Jeep. When you buy a new Wrangler or Bronco they give you a RUclips channel with your purchase
No, but close. We’ve been around for 7 years and finally had the time to launch the channel since our old lead rig died and we are twiddling our thumbs while waiting for a new one.
9:59 for the love of god people, take off the dealer/factory info stickers on the drivers window. I see so many people driving around with these on. Do y’all not like to see outside unobstructed or what?
We hadn’t noticed it until you mentioned it and now it’s all we can see.
Say what you want but Ford sat back and Benchmarked the wrangler and 4runner. Just to drop the bronco 20 something years later with Raptor DNA in it.
Very true. We just wish Nissan never abandoned the Xterra.
4runner and 2 doors have the shortest wheel base be my choice
It definitely was an eye-opening experience hanging out with a two door. Probably explains how it did so well against such beefy vehicles.
One of the things you have to understand is jeepers have been working for the last 40 yrs to keep trails open and donating thousands of hours and money.
And we appreciate it.
If your car is being shipped to you surely that means it is the Toyota.
Interesting logic. You'll find out if you were right soon, we hope.
$43k must have been with the employee discount 💀 good for them
I think that might’ve been sticker, which these days kind of feels like an employee discount.
So he paid $43k for a Black Diamond, with no front locker, a 2.3 4 cylinder engine, tow package , mid package at best, and no other real options?
Wow, he got ripped off (and his wife works at the dealership!). I paid $47k for a 2 door OBX 2.7 advanced 4x4 with the Lux and Tow packages. $4k difference and I got a 2.7 engine, the 10 speed auto, the advanced 4x4 transfer case, and the Lux package???
BTW, the Badlands is not pushing 60k in the same configuration.
No, but a 4-door hardtop Sasquatch with dealer markup sure is.
@@mpeugeot he picked up a Bronco that had been abandoned by the reservation holder. Given the current market, you should absolutely expect to pay ADM if you don't have a reservation.
And yes, a 4 door hardtop Badlands with Sasquatch is right about $60k. Mine MSRP'd at $56310.
Toyotas are not keeing-up with Broncos & Jeeps. These are fire trails; live near the Rubicon trail & even the “Toyota” guys here have Chevy engine swaps & solid axle conversions, which means they’re no longer Toyotas at that point - only the body & frame.
Much like the X-Terra we used to have as a lead rig, the platforms has been neglected by the manufacturer. We've saying it for years, but maybe a 6th gen 4Runner will come out soon?
That White TRD is way over plasticated
We won’t tell Rob you said that. However, it was so windy when we shot this that the plastic trim around one his wheel wells blew off.
@@SCORCH4x4 yup, that side was already damaged from a few trails in Moab. Its It’s all back to normal for a few more years of hits and scratches.
Head scratcher 🤷 no clue why you would compare these? Bunch of highly modified vehicles and a stock Bronco on dirt roads? Surprised you didn’t include a Skottle cook off vs disc blade over and open fire? LMAO 😂🤣
No head scratching necessary. As indicated in the video, bronco owners are rarer than five legged dinosaurs and the only one that showed up had the two door stick shift. In the end it made for a very interesting comparison considering how well the bronco did. However some people may take exception to you referring to Cleghorn Ridge as “a dirt road”. That’s was no walk in the park.
@@SCORCH4x4 my apologies
@@tomsbigtrucks No apologies needed. Glad you took the time to share your take on it. Thanks!
Bronco will lose on longevity the ecoboost are total garbage
One of many risks in considering a first year vehicle. (Sure, 2022 is technically the 2nd model year but c'mon...)
Not all ecoboost are equal (and a minority of 2.7 Broncos have an issue); however, my 2011 total garbage 3.5 Ecoboost has 250k miles on it. Must be a problem.
@@mpeugeot if you ignore the timing chain rattle on start up and oil leaks and coolant leaks they are great engines. Lmao
My 2017 Fusion Sport has the 2.7L zero issues and very happy with it