With my avata 1 i can fly pitch black area with no issue, slalom around people on extremely low light condition. With my avata2 same condition the drone go autocrazy mode full throttle a pure danger if there is people around, take a drone at 60km in your face th story can end very badly. What the point to put better sensors to have a missile who can go crazy at everytime "low light warning"?? Ive got hundreds of hours at night with my avata 1, never one issue. With the avata 2, start by an auto drift, then you have one solution to recover, to push full speed to an area with more light. If not it start by a drift, and after a collision the avata2 go full speed on every direction. This thing is a danger.
You can straife with the motion controller with the thumb joystick but it's very slow. Head tracking also adds a lot to what you can do as far as mimicking normal drone movements and it also does things you can't do with a normal drone. You can turn on horizon steady instead of EIS, and it keeps the drone locked to the horizon, it needs to be in 16:9 for this option to show up. Even at 200 ft in high wind today it made a huge difference. It takes care of the stability issue you were talking about indoors 100% I build my own drones and I hated the way it flew with the FPV controller 2, prefer the the motion controller, I'd just rather fly one of my DIY drones if I want a normal radio. The low light situation is the biggest drawback IMO, I was flying around my house, I flew into a dimly lit bedroom, and it drifted into a wall, freaked out and disarmed, dropping to the floor *edit I have been made aware you can speed up roll by changing the rates
Awesome video Demetrios! The Cinelog25 looks ideal. It's also sub250 with the right battery and naked gopro! I ended up buying the Cinebot30 but it really feels too strong for indoor flight with my naked gopro 11 and 1100mah 6s. I almost regret not getting the cinelog25 v2 or the new Pavo20 pro. What would you buy now for video tours inside to out on construction & real estate?
This will depend on the space, if it's a really small space then a small Cinewhoop would be fine. If you have more room the Cinebot 30 should be fine. If I was to buy now I would buy the DarkStar (which is tiny) and I would buy the Cinelog25 v2. I've enjoyed my experience with GPERC. I plan to buy eventually, just waiting for O4 air units! I've not bought or used BETAFPV Pavo20 to be able to recommend it.
Worth investing in the firehouse light system to fly avata 2 inside? Ordered manual controller so fixing to start learning- from what im hearing fly in manual incase you lose gps
7:17 what type of apartment is this. There is fire escape signs above your doors of the kitchen. Never seen that before Actually makes the kitchen look as if it’s not your it’s a common shared room. Bizarre
Just subbed, just watched a few of your vids. Great job and really helpful. Thank you for taking the time. I have an Avata 2 and work primarily in Real Estate tours so I was very interested in this video. Thanks again.
Hi everyone, I have a question regarding my DJI Avata. I’m trying to use 4K at 60 fps with the ultra wide lens and HorizonSteady, but it seems like these settings are not compatible. Does anyone know why the DJI Avata restricts certain stabilization modes with specific resolutions and lenses? Is there any way to bypass these limitations or any recommended solutions? Additionally, what would be the best settings you would recommend for filming interiors of real estate properties? Any tips for achieving the best quality footage indoors? Thanks for your help!
There’s no HorizonSteady only RockSteady. Check out my video modes video as I cover when you can turn it off and use gyroflow instead. As for filming indoors do several passes with slight adjustments to settings then you can pick the best one.
DJI Avata 2 flying in low light indoors sucks! DJI should 100% fix it. The drifting into walls when you are flying correctly is garbage. Nice video, and thanks for creating!
You would either get used to the current rates and put less stick input or decrease the rates. I would do this incrementally test and repeat until satisfied.
I don’t have that clear of space to fly indoors so no, stuff blowing around of course doesn’t work so that will come later. Grooming the site for the downdrafts is critical so can’t do it for now.
@@superstardj66better then expected. The drone struggled a bit with the conditions (low light and windy outside). But it was doable. As soon as the video is finished, I will link it here.
@@superstardj66 ruclips.net/video/xuPGtbjLSJ4/видео.html Not really perfect but quite ok for the first indoor flight ever. I had to cut 2-3 times with bad transitions^^. But i learnt alot :)
Obviously the whoop reacted better indoors in low light because the filming and flight are autonomous. The Avata2 is for beginners to learn fpv not to compete with ciniwhoops. Comparing apples to oranges in some ways. It's nice to see that the Avata2 can be used inside. Would beginner mode sped up work for inside? Cheers!
BlueDroneBlues > I just purchased the Avada 2 for indoor real estate use. I'm just easing into it and have only flown outdoors so far. Sounds like you've had a good experience thus far. Some report the Avada 2 can fly erratically in poorly lit rooms, and it can get sucked in walls, etc. Have you experienced any of these potentially crash-causing behaviors?
Hello, Demetrios. Excellent comparaison. Looking at the two videos at the beginning of your footage, I prefer the right one. Can you set the Avata 2 to record H.265, when @ 4K/60, 16:9, UW, Rocksteady?? Because there seems to be only an H.264 recording, which is very slow to render. If you can set it at H.265, how do you do it?
I just took a look and I don’t see an option. I’ve not had issue but I edit of my Mac ssd which does help. You could try adjusting settings in your editor to allow for fast playback during editing. Also thanks for voting 🗳️
Hi there, thanks for this video, very good comparison. What i would like to ask is can you share the Gain & Expo Settings for Remote Controller 3 for a smooth and slow flight like you do? I mean Center Sensitivity, Max Rate and Expo settings. Thanks.
I used the stock settings for manual mode and adjust my flying according to it. This is a good idea to start before adjusting settings to improve flying. However if you find it too responsive I would reduce the rate gradually until you find a sweet spot. I haven’t got a preference yet. Something I can look into for a future video. 🍻
I just updated my Avata 2 firmware, and now the auto gimbal calibration is error. When I recalibrate, it cannot go past 70%. Do you have any idea what to do?
Regarding the update. I think the More section on the side bar is new. Appears to allow you to watch video content from your phone or computer via WiFi. Not seen it mentioned anywhere else.
This is a good question. It will depend what type of flying you want to do. Freestyle, Indoor, Long range. I really do like GEPRC as a brand they have some good quality drones.
Great video! If using the Avata 2 with the FPV RC3 and indoors / normal flight should you leave the throttle stick set to return to centre? Have been using mine on simulators so have undone the throttle stick so it doesn't return to centre but just wondering what's best when flying in more normal modes? Cheers!
Appreciate it. I think it’s too much hassle in my opinion to add the spring back unless you’re consistently doing indoor flights and not needing manual mode. I flew with no spring and was fine. Just need to fine tune the tools you use to what you use most.
Hi!! Could you upload a specific video for low light, 0GPS, normal mode? Also, do you think there will be enough light for the sensors not to lose track in a bar at night, considering there will be some people? Thanks!
I made a low light video. ruclips.net/video/O5ETuMtqm7Q/видео.html Unless we could disable the sensors to not interfere I would recommend a dedicated cinewhoopr which fly alot better in low light.
Tough one. I wouldn’t gamble if flying around people. Ideally you want to test first before committing to see how it handles. It doesn’t like lowlight. Let me know you get on.
DJI are no longer requiring data to be uploaded to DJI anymore, this should help stop the US from banning them because they wouldn't have the data to share with Chinese government.
This is how I knew which was which very quick. The Avata 2 is more precise and stable, but it feels off. Very sort of mechanical like and twitchy. The other was far less precise but that sort of soft floatiness, I think adds character, and some cinematic charm. Also, my avata freaks out in low light. I've had it started drifting, and then move wrong when I tried to recover, and it bumped into a wall and then tried to take off full Throttle and got stuck to the ceiling. Just flying through a small section of a dark hall. I suppose with practice and controls, you can get the look you want, but the low light is kind of the Achilles heel, and the low light noise is pretty bad. Had to beat the battery life, ease of use, and reliability of the avata 2, though. I think that stuff makes up for the shortcomings, plus you can use it for other stuff and fly around outside for fun. But, I mean, obviously a specialized tool is going to perform better in it's specialty, if you always wanna have the best tool for every single job.
thk for the video. What rates are you using on your Cinelog 25 for indoor flight ? How is it compared to other cinewhoops for indoor flights ? ( if you tried others of course ) like the defender 25 ?
Cinelog 25 stock rates. I haven’t flown other cinewhoops. I wanted to get the DarkStar and Cinebot25 to try out. Even the Cinelog25 v2 as it has O3. The Cinelog25 without the action camera flys really make. Can freestyle it. I’ve not had issues with GEPRC and like the brand.
@@DimmyVim asking because it seems that you lost complete control of the drone at 17:30 when there was no GPS/Vision. Would there be a difference if you were to do the same with the Remote controller 3? I read somewhere that when you fly indoors with the RC 3 and lose GPS, the drone will just drift a bit and you will have to correct its position, unlike with the MC 3 which will lose complete control. Is that correct?
@13:00 Avata on the left, but as others have said I liked the cinelog, also the less the quad weighs for tight spaces the less wind turbulence you'll have.
@Roundawg there’s nothing wrong with your vision. It’s your preference and that’s what matters. Go with what you like. It’s ok for people to have different aesthetics 🙌🏼🍻
@@DimmyV I prefer to see phots and videos just like I experienced the real occurrence. I know that’s not popular but it’s what I like. I also know that’s why I’m not a photographer. Lol
When flying the avata 2 in both normal and sport mode is it possible to hit the ground while flying or will the sensor not allow the drone to hit the ground while flying?
I bought this drone... I used quick transfer for the first time and it worked perfectly... however now my drone does not connect with quick transfer
With my avata 1 i can fly pitch black area with no issue, slalom around people on extremely low light condition.
With my avata2 same condition the drone go autocrazy mode full throttle a pure danger if there is people around, take a drone at 60km in your face th story can end very badly.
What the point to put better sensors to have a missile who can go crazy at everytime "low light warning"??
Ive got hundreds of hours at night with my avata 1, never one issue.
With the avata 2, start by an auto drift, then you have one solution to recover, to push full speed to an area with more light. If not it start by a drift, and after a collision the avata2 go full speed on every direction. This thing is a danger.
You can straife with the motion controller with the thumb joystick but it's very slow. Head tracking also adds a lot to what you can do as far as mimicking normal drone movements and it also does things you can't do with a normal drone.
You can turn on horizon steady instead of EIS, and it keeps the drone locked to the horizon, it needs to be in 16:9 for this option to show up. Even at 200 ft in high wind today it made a huge difference. It takes care of the stability issue you were talking about indoors 100%
I build my own drones and I hated the way it flew with the FPV controller 2, prefer the the motion controller, I'd just rather fly one of my DIY drones if I want a normal radio.
The low light situation is the biggest drawback IMO, I was flying around my house, I flew into a dimly lit bedroom, and it drifted into a wall, freaked out and disarmed, dropping to the floor
*edit I have been made aware you can speed up roll by changing the rates
Awesome video Demetrios! The Cinelog25 looks ideal. It's also sub250 with the right battery and naked gopro! I ended up buying the Cinebot30 but it really feels too strong for indoor flight with my naked gopro 11 and 1100mah 6s. I almost regret not getting the cinelog25 v2 or the new Pavo20 pro. What would you buy now for video tours inside to out on construction & real estate?
This will depend on the space, if it's a really small space then a small Cinewhoop would be fine. If you have more room the Cinebot 30 should be fine. If I was to buy now I would buy the DarkStar (which is tiny) and I would buy the Cinelog25 v2. I've enjoyed my experience with GPERC. I plan to buy eventually, just waiting for O4 air units! I've not bought or used BETAFPV Pavo20 to be able to recommend it.
Good video...Looked like it took alot of effort and time to produce. Thanks for making it. Flying indoors is challenging though.
I've seen many of your videos with you tiny whoops flying inside. Did you get the Avata 2?
I prefer the footage on the left quite a lot, looked more professional to me.
Appreciate this input.
Worth investing in the firehouse light system to fly avata 2 inside? Ordered manual controller so fixing to start learning- from what im hearing fly in manual incase you lose gps
I’m not sure what you mean about the firehouse light system…? I prefer normal mode for Avata 2 indoors. Use the vision sensors to your advantage.
7:17 what type of apartment is this. There is fire escape signs above your doors of the kitchen. Never seen that before
Actually makes the kitchen look as if it’s not your it’s a common shared room. Bizarre
It's a shared space not an apartment. An apartment would have been too small 😂
Just subbed, just watched a few of your vids. Great job and really helpful. Thank you for taking the time. I have an Avata 2 and work primarily in Real Estate tours so I was very interested in this video. Thanks again.
Appreciate it. What are your findings flying it indoors for real estate?
Hi everyone,
I have a question regarding my DJI Avata. I’m trying to use 4K at 60 fps with the ultra wide lens and HorizonSteady, but it seems like these settings are not compatible. Does anyone know why the DJI Avata restricts certain stabilization modes with specific resolutions and lenses? Is there any way to bypass these limitations or any recommended solutions?
Additionally, what would be the best settings you would recommend for filming interiors of real estate properties? Any tips for achieving the best quality footage indoors?
Thanks for your help!
There’s no HorizonSteady only RockSteady. Check out my video modes video as I cover when you can turn it off and use gyroflow instead.
As for filming indoors do several passes with slight adjustments to settings then you can pick the best one.
@@DimmyV thanks a lot for your help bro 👍🏻
DJI Avata 2 flying in low light indoors sucks! DJI should 100% fix it. The drifting into walls when you are flying correctly is garbage. Nice video, and thanks for creating!
Yeah I covered this in a video specifically at night. Not great.
Ahhh ok thanks man for the reply!! I hope Dji fix that!! Happy Flying!!
When indoors what are the best settings to dial it down on movements etc in normal mode?
You would either get used to the current rates and put less stick input or decrease the rates. I would do this incrementally test and repeat until satisfied.
Whats the best settings for indoor flying no ND filter
Stick it on auto as your shutter speed will need to be higher to compensate
Which footage did you prefer? Have you flown the Avata 2 indoors?
I don’t have that clear of space to fly indoors so no, stuff blowing around of course doesn’t work so that will come later. Grooming the site for the downdrafts is critical so can’t do it for now.
Perfect timing. Got my first real estate indoor flight tomorrow with the avata 2.
Amazing. Congrats on the gig 🍻
How did your gig go?
@@superstardj66better then expected. The drone struggled a bit with the conditions (low light and windy outside).
But it was doable. As soon as the video is finished, I will link it here.
@@superstardj66 ruclips.net/video/xuPGtbjLSJ4/видео.html Not really perfect but quite ok for the first indoor flight ever. I had to cut 2-3 times with bad transitions^^. But i learnt alot :)
@@AlSo-Fotografie Still waiting :-)
Obviously the whoop reacted better indoors in low light because the filming and flight are autonomous. The Avata2 is for beginners to learn fpv not to compete with ciniwhoops. Comparing apples to oranges in some ways.
It's nice to see that the Avata2 can be used inside.
Would beginner mode sped up work for inside?
Cheers!
I love flying the Avata 2 indoors! It's a great little drone. I am loving this so much more than the OG Avata!
BlueDroneBlues > I just purchased the Avada 2 for indoor real estate use. I'm just easing into it and have only flown outdoors so far. Sounds like you've had a good experience thus far. Some report the Avada 2 can fly erratically in poorly lit rooms, and it can get sucked in walls, etc. Have you experienced any of these potentially crash-causing behaviors?
@inspiration151 I mention this in the video
You'd have to lower the rates on the Avata 2 for indoor flights. It's not designed out the box for indoors, save beginner mode bro💯
Why not horizon steady?
I was filming in 4:3 and horizontal steady is not available in that mode.
Hello, Demetrios. Excellent comparaison. Looking at the two videos at the beginning of your footage, I prefer the right one. Can you set the Avata 2 to record H.265, when @ 4K/60, 16:9, UW, Rocksteady?? Because there seems to be only an H.264 recording, which is very slow to render. If you can set it at H.265, how do you do it?
I just took a look and I don’t see an option. I’ve not had issue but I edit of my Mac ssd which does help. You could try adjusting settings in your editor to allow for fast playback during editing. Also thanks for voting 🗳️
Hi there, thanks for this video, very good comparison. What i would like to ask is can you share the Gain & Expo Settings for Remote Controller 3 for a smooth and slow flight like you do? I mean Center Sensitivity, Max Rate and Expo settings. Thanks.
I used the stock settings for manual mode and adjust my flying according to it. This is a good idea to start before adjusting settings to improve flying. However if you find it too responsive I would reduce the rate gradually until you find a sweet spot. I haven’t got a preference yet. Something I can look into for a future video. 🍻
I just updated my Avata 2 firmware, and now the auto gimbal calibration is error. When I recalibrate, it cannot go past 70%. Do you have any idea what to do?
Hmmmm interesting. Have you tried resetting camera parameters or redo gimbal calibration?
Regarding the update. I think the More section on the side bar is new. Appears to allow you to watch video content from your phone or computer via WiFi. Not seen it mentioned anywhere else.
True. I can’t believe it’s a whole menu just for that. I tried to test it but didn’t work with AirPlay from iPhone.
What do you think is the best drone after the DJI avatar 2, without spending much money
This is a good question. It will depend what type of flying you want to do. Freestyle, Indoor, Long range. I really do like GEPRC as a brand they have some good quality drones.
Great video! If using the Avata 2 with the FPV RC3 and indoors / normal flight should you leave the throttle stick set to return to centre?
Have been using mine on simulators so have undone the throttle stick so it doesn't return to centre but just wondering what's best when flying in more normal modes? Cheers!
Appreciate it. I think it’s too much hassle in my opinion to add the spring back unless you’re consistently doing indoor flights and not needing manual mode. I flew with no spring and was fine. Just need to fine tune the tools you use to what you use most.
@@DimmyV Cheers for that. Much appreciated.
fly in beginner mode with the mc3
Demetrios~Omg. you made breathtaking -🖐
Hopefully informative 🍻
love the video! could you please share your RATE's for indoor tight shots?
Thanks, I use the stock rates. I made no adjustments.
@@DimmyV thanks man! appreciate it.
With the Avada 2 do you ever run into 4 or 5 satellites in the red while in indoors etc
Don't need satellites indoors, thats what the vision sensors underneath are for.
Hi!! Could you upload a specific video for low light, 0GPS, normal mode? Also, do you think there will be enough light for the sensors not to lose track in a bar at night, considering there will be some people? Thanks!
I made a low light video. ruclips.net/video/O5ETuMtqm7Q/видео.html
Unless we could disable the sensors to not interfere I would recommend a dedicated cinewhoopr which fly alot better in low light.
@DimmyV thanks!! But I only have the dji avata 1 and I need to record this week 😂
Tough one. I wouldn’t gamble if flying around people. Ideally you want to test first before committing to see how it handles. It doesn’t like lowlight. Let me know you get on.
Nice video bro. But, how about the GPS on Avata 2 flying indoor? Don’t you have problem with this? Can you flight indoor with weak gps signal?
they got sensor no prob to flight indoor
GPS won’t be required for indoors.
This is very educational and thanks for this, problem is DJI is getting banned 🚫 in USA so it doesn't matter anymore 🥺. Good luck to DJI!
Have faith. Battle isn’t over yet.
DJI are no longer requiring data to be uploaded to DJI anymore, this should help stop the US from banning them because they wouldn't have the data to share with Chinese government.
My best experience flying indoors with the Avata 2 is dropping all the gain Values to the min. Yes it's slow but not so jerky.
Yes this is a good idea 👏🏼
This is how I knew which was which very quick. The Avata 2 is more precise and stable, but it feels off. Very sort of mechanical like and twitchy. The other was far less precise but that sort of soft floatiness, I think adds character, and some cinematic charm.
Also, my avata freaks out in low light. I've had it started drifting, and then move wrong when I tried to recover, and it bumped into a wall and then tried to take off full Throttle and got stuck to the ceiling. Just flying through a small section of a dark hall.
I suppose with practice and controls, you can get the look you want, but the low light is kind of the Achilles heel, and the low light noise is pretty bad.
Had to beat the battery life, ease of use, and reliability of the avata 2, though. I think that stuff makes up for the shortcomings, plus you can use it for other stuff and fly around outside for fun.
But, I mean, obviously a specialized tool is going to perform better in it's specialty, if you always wanna have the best tool for every single job.
So when flying the Cinelog in angle mode, can it hover if you let go?
In angle mode it will help keep the drone steadyish but it’s never perfect and you will need minor corrections. Hovering is not easy.
thk for the video. What rates are you using on your Cinelog 25 for indoor flight ? How is it compared to other cinewhoops for indoor flights ? ( if you tried others of course ) like the defender 25 ?
Cinelog 25 stock rates. I haven’t flown other cinewhoops. I wanted to get the DarkStar and Cinebot25 to try out. Even the Cinelog25 v2 as it has O3. The Cinelog25 without the action camera flys really make. Can freestyle it. I’ve not had issues with GEPRC and like the brand.
@@DimmyV thanks for your reply 🙏
Quick question! I’ve noticed that when you were flying with the Motion controller indoors the GPS signal was zero. Does it affect how you’re flying?
You wont get GPS lock inside. This will help with position hovering outside and return to home. Indoors not needed
@@DimmyVim asking because it seems that you lost complete control of the drone at 17:30 when there was no GPS/Vision. Would there be a difference if you were to do the same with the Remote controller 3? I read somewhere that when you fly indoors with the RC 3 and lose GPS, the drone will just drift a bit and you will have to correct its position, unlike with the MC 3 which will lose complete control. Is that correct?
@@camprey that has to do with low light. The vision sensors don’t work in low light.
to stop motors u just duble tap right bottom button
Yeah I figured that out after cause it’s the same as when starting. Just got flustered during test.
Cool video….
1:58 does this still work when set to auto
I assume you mean auto video settings... If thats what you are referring to, yes it will work.
Wdyt to do interior with mini4pro?
You could but use prop guards, there is a wide angle lens available too but this will ad distortion.
Right side looked better. Avata 2 was on the right.
Appreciate your input. What did you like about it?
@13:00 Avata on the left, but as others have said I liked the cinelog, also the less the quad weighs for tight spaces the less wind turbulence you'll have.
Bro. The Avata looks way better. However all of my indoor shots look like shit no matter what I do.
Interesting, why do you prefer the Avata 2? Appreciate your insights
@@DimmyV I like the Avata 2 because it appears more like my vision. But ive. been accused more than once that my vision is terrible.
@Roundawg there’s nothing wrong with your vision. It’s your preference and that’s what matters. Go with what you like. It’s ok for people to have different aesthetics 🙌🏼🍻
@@DimmyV I prefer to see phots and videos just like I experienced the real occurrence. I know that’s not popular but it’s what I like. I also know that’s why I’m not a photographer. Lol
When flying the avata 2 in both normal and sport mode is it possible to hit the ground while flying or will the sensor not allow the drone to hit the ground while flying?
The downward sensors will keep steady but as mentioned in low light these don’t work.
@@DimmyV will the downward senors let you hit the ground if you push all the way down but down land it while flying
@@willcountydrone2022 it will just go to auto land
@@willcountydrone2022 I had a crash while flying over a wheat field. It did not prevent me from crashing or landing in this case.
exactly what i searched for! thanks!
Your welcome. Which footage did you prefer?
Sweet, was waiting on this one
Thanks 🍻
Which did you prefer?
Thx
🙌🏼
Nice video thank you!
Your welcome. Which footage did you prefer?
@@DimmyV I honestly couldn’t decide. They both looked good to me ☺️
I like the one on the right. Brighter colors and lighting! Love the music too
Thanks for voting and enjoying the video. Happy Sunday
Who is you're beautiful assistant. She is doing a stellar of a job standing there looking good opening doors 🚁💯
Vickey was my assistant. She did great 🙌🏼
Banging as always 🫶🏽 I’ve got Avata 2 and mini 2 but I prefer the footage on the Right from your other little drone ✌🏽🫶🏽
Mini 2 is still a great drone. I have mine still. Thanks for your preference liking the Cinelog25 with Action 2