It must be the heavier body on the G8A, but I love how it looks crawling along. Adds some scale realism - imo. I'm a fan of the Axe system - I like the auto-torque adjustment settings. It reminds me of driving a powerful full size rig. Tons of torque - very little throttle - float through and over obstacles.
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Nice! I have a 5min drive to go rock wheeling, so its not too far for me to get out to a technical area & get in a good crawl session..happy crawlin man🤙
The Houleigan - for inexpensive might want to check out the ECO Servos , my LHS put me onto them & mine has been Awesome so far.. Heres some specs ($69.99) The EcoPower WP120T Coreless Waterproof "High Torque" Metal Gear Digital Servo , waterproof, high voltage, The WP120T makes 337 oz-in of torque and .11 transit speed at 6.0V. But when you crank the voltage up to 7.4V, the WP120T delivers 400 oz-in and .09 speed, making it an excellent option for scale crawlers, 1/10-1/8 monster trucks etc etc.. They also have an Eco110T, for $39.99 puts out 270 oz in but slower transit speed .16... Good luck
I like your videos but I love the control of brushed or brushless I think that's why you're the red one made it over that spot the other one crashed. Keep them coming
I have two senderos, one rtr and a kit I built around an axe 550 system. My wife wants a crawler for herself and I was considering the trailrunner, but i wanted something that would keep up with ours easily when we're out hiking around. I'm considering the gen 8 axe, but $500 is steep and I'm not sure if I could be spending that money better elsewhere.
@@ExocagedRC That looks awesome, thanks for pointing it out. I decided to get the gen8 anyway, she really likes the way it looks and I'm looking forward to modding a new platform. I'll be keeping an eye on that gatekeeper though, maybe you'll review it!
I was trying to get a better look at the front skid plate on your AXE. I think I spotted a very nice one on another of your videos. Was it custom? I’ve looked around. Seen a few s/s “4 X 4” that are for REDCAT GEN 8, but don’t mention the AXE. I imagine it would work, but I’ve certainly been wrong before. Could you let me know where you got yours?
It looked like the axe motor was so far away from the servo compared to the HH motor... are the 540 and 550 really that different in size offer is something else going on
Great videos 👍 I just bought agen 8 chassy kit and the new axe scout-2 body but it didn’t come with the inner genders on the body , the ones you put the magnets would you know the part #number of ? Thanks for the help!!
@@ExocagedRC No link, and I cannot find that size on Amazon. I find mostly 1.26" X 2", or 12mm X 2mm, but none at 18mm/.75" X .078"/2mm I'll have to keep looking. Thanks
I can re-watch your videos for hours 👍🏻!! I just bought a Gen 8 this past Friday I wanted the Axe bad but couldn't swing it right now. I have a FlySky gt3b radio w/ a HW 1080 esc & swapped out the swampers for some Hyrax tires. would you mind telling me what else you think would be the best parts upgrades as far as stuff breaking down etc & what the best Brushed (for now) motor would be or is the stock motor enough.. Thanks so much
@@ExocagedRC Awesome Thanks so much, I'll have to search your videos to get more info on shimming the Tcase side of driveshaft Im not exactly sure what you mean but Im sure I can figure it out or something. I appreciate all your help I enjoy your vids & learn a lot from you!! my next step is finding the best brushed motor for the money, something with good low end torque but yet decent wheel speed.... again Thank you
@@ExocagedRC I noticed when taking my axle shafts apart everything factory stock is solid metal, the shafts all the gears? are you saying upgrade to an even more Heavy Duty metal like like a chromoly set? Thanks
Really valuable comparison !! It seems that brushless motor doesn't give any real advantage in crawling... obviously compared with a good brushed vehicle. What's your opinion ?
I disagree. I find you have much more low speed control with the Axe System. You can also change things like engine braking and wether or not it compensates wheel speed when it hits a load or not with your phone on the trail.
@@ExocagedRC Thanks, I was looking that in the video there was no real difference. But great to hear that, I bought two Gen7 Sports to my kids and "upgraded" the tyres to Hyrax and something. I'm using the Gen7 Super Swamper IROKs in my own TRX-4 and SCX10 II. :D I think they are perfect size and perform well on trails, not so good on rocks.
what exactly did you mean when you said (That Axe maybe thats why it flipped over & the other one didnt ??) what about it being Axe made it flip? or are you saying its Top heavy even beyond the gen 8? maybe I missed it if so sorry , Thanks
I'll be there all 3 days, for sure, I plan to do a LOT of work out there with interviews recording trails, and events etc. Going to be a big weekend for everyone
My TRX4 Sport is running the HW1080 and HH Trailmaster Sport 27T. Are you getting as much low end torque with the smaller turn pro as you’d get with a 27T? I know the control of the HW1080 is great though. FYI that $220 Axe system is looking less interesting the more videos I watch
Jon Thomas if you’re referring to the Crawlmaster Pro 550 10t yeah it’s got way more power. The 5 slot design is awesome. Also I have 5 axe systems now and use them to compete with as well as general crawling.
I like the og in this comparison the axe is a bit top heavy (although I have the axe thanks to you lol) I think the axe is a better trail rig than a crawler but the og is a better crawler than a trail rig. Just my 2 cents.
Dominates? Lol..Not sure how it dominates it? The electronics are no comparison. The Axe has the better guts. The body is heavy on the Axe. Not the best place for added weight. That's the only reason I believe it flipped over in the end. Both are great scale trucks. I just can't see one saying one dominates the other.
JPM788212 probably because I have how many of them, not just one or two. I mean many of them so I can say what’s up dude because I own almost every crawler there is as well so that’s how I know the OG gen8 dominates over the Axe. Sorry if this hurts your feelings😢 in some way but I’ve done a ridiculous amount of test because it’s fun for one and just so I can see what they can do. A $20 Holmes Hobby and stock ESC outdoes both of my Axe Editions. Have 4 OG’s and now 2 Axe so I can say it with knowledge to back it up. Don’t get your panties in a twist bro.
Oh yeah plus my OG’s are fully fully fully upgraded so they weigh a ton, I mean I guess with you I better clarify cause don’t want you to complain brother. They weigh a lot is that better. Axe has no proper upgrades for it yet do to all of the knew modifications have to buy correct axels.
@@kravenkrawlhobby5438 you don’t own every single crawler because if you did you wouldn’t have just posted one lame ugly ass paint job that you did. Nothing about the OG beats the axe 🪓 your just a hater because you can’t afford it.
@@michaelmonroe5034 Same. It's amazing how some just want to hold onto the past. All I know is that brands like Castle and Axial better get to work because they seem to have been resting on their laurels and are getting pounded by the competition right now.
@@theskeptik1 That'll never happen, not with Castle anyhow, maybe Axial products if they dont start updating .. The problem w/ Axe & what might run them outta buisness is that your limited to only AXE motors with their esc!! castle products such as Mamba X can be paired with any motor!! you buy an Axe esc you stuck buying an axe motor, no other choices work with it. so if you decide one day you want to thow the Axe esc in another truck laying around, your outta luck & buying another Axe motor!!
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Redcat really has come along way since I was younger.
David Rc Basher yes they sure have
Thank you that's what I wanted to see a side-by-side comparison of an original release and a new release
On both tires are the problem........thank you for this video it helps in the choice
😁👍 They are both great rigs!! I think you should swap skids the red on the black truck and the black on the orange truck would look better.
Reefs sliders with a 3/8 spacer to raise it up makes all the difference
I believe the OG brushed held it's own. Nice side by side break down of both models.
It must be the heavier body on the G8A, but I love how it looks crawling along. Adds some scale realism - imo. I'm a fan of the Axe system - I like the auto-torque adjustment settings. It reminds me of driving a powerful full size rig. Tons of torque - very little throttle - float through and over obstacles.
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It would do even better with some good tires. Need to test the new Proline Interco TrXus M/T using the Gen 8.
Love your videos man. Thanks for all you do.
Awesome video , fun to watch them both ! 👍👍
Exo-plex looks like an awesome time, I would be out there all day..everyday! Cool vid for sure man🤙
I just about am out there everyday lol
Nice! I have a 5min drive to go rock wheeling, so its not too far for me to get out to a technical area & get in a good crawl session..happy crawlin man🤙
Maybe do same test with good tires on both and good foams in both - just a suggestion, love the vids!
Maybe I'm crazy, but my stock foams have broken in after a few runs and perform really well. Even will it's a little colder outside.
Awesome video! My Gen 8 is a mix of both! I have an Axe system but have the cheap 20kg servo. Till I can get a Reefs for it!
The Houleigan I’ve priced out all the reefs servos and for the money I’ll be using more of the Raw500 servos for sure.
The Houleigan - for inexpensive might want to check out the ECO Servos , my LHS put me onto them & mine has been Awesome so far.. Heres some specs ($69.99) The EcoPower WP120T Coreless Waterproof "High Torque" Metal Gear Digital Servo , waterproof, high voltage, The WP120T makes 337 oz-in of torque and .11 transit speed at 6.0V. But when you crank the voltage up to 7.4V, the WP120T delivers 400 oz-in and .09 speed, making it an excellent option for scale crawlers, 1/10-1/8 monster trucks etc etc.. They also have an Eco110T, for $39.99 puts out 270 oz in but slower transit speed .16... Good luck
Dude... i ABSOLUTELY love how you painted up the red gen8 body- im guessing you bought a clear body and did it yourself? It looks GREAT!
Yeah sure did. Thank you so much.
Yea that paint job is amazing, every time I see it I'm wowed!
My gen8 axe is on the way.. 400km from my house.. Have to wait for another 3 days before i can put it on my desk
I like your videos but I love the control of brushed or brushless I think that's why you're the red one made it over that spot the other one crashed. Keep them coming
I really dig your rock garden. Do you have any pics or videos on how you formed it?
Really like how your gen8 looks. And it performs nicely.
Two great truck good comparación
That is a really nioce comparassion video man. Love it 😸😸
I can't wait till I get mine
I have two senderos, one rtr and a kit I built around an axe 550 system. My wife wants a crawler for herself and I was considering the trailrunner, but i wanted something that would keep up with ours easily when we're out hiking around. I'm considering the gen 8 axe, but $500 is steep and I'm not sure if I could be spending that money better elsewhere.
Well if you like the enduro trucks they have a new one on the way. It’s a bit of a racer style with new rear suspension.
@@ExocagedRC That looks awesome, thanks for pointing it out. I decided to get the gen8 anyway, she really likes the way it looks and I'm looking forward to modding a new platform. I'll be keeping an eye on that gatekeeper though, maybe you'll review it!
I was trying to get a better look at the front skid plate on your AXE. I think I spotted a very nice one on another of your videos. Was it custom? I’ve looked around. Seen a few s/s “4 X 4” that are for REDCAT GEN 8, but don’t mention the AXE. I imagine it would work, but I’ve certainly been wrong before. Could you let me know where you got yours?
its the 4x4 one but with an engraved piece glued onto it to make it look better
Siiiick one man 🤙🏽🤙🏽 great vid
It looked like the axe motor was so far away from the servo compared to the HH motor... are the 540 and 550 really that different in size offer is something else going on
Yeah there is quite a bit of difference in length
I'm making gen8 JeepJK Open body now. This video is nice.
Id like to see a crawlmaster vs axe, red cats. I think it might be a better match up. As good as the axe is it looks like its coging
Tech NO City pretty sure it’s all the steel gears. I’m tempted to take them out for some plastic ones.
How many tons of cement do you have at your place! I've poured more than 2 tons and still looks like 1/10th of what you have!
LoL no idea but there is a LOT there
What a great video my friend~!!😄😃👍
Great videos 👍 I just bought agen 8 chassy kit and the new axe scout-2 body but it didn’t come with the inner genders on the body , the ones you put the magnets would you know the part #number of ? Thanks for the help!!
i run traxxas canyons on my gen8, the stock tires aren't the best for rock crawling.
can you show a video on putting a on the esc on the gen8 axe
Where did you find your .75" Neodymium magnets? I've been looking and cannot find that size.
amazon, there may be an old link in the description
@@ExocagedRC No link, and I cannot find that size on Amazon. I find mostly 1.26" X 2", or 12mm X 2mm, but none at 18mm/.75" X .078"/2mm
I'll have to keep looking.
Thanks
I can re-watch your videos for hours 👍🏻!! I just bought a Gen 8 this past Friday I wanted the Axe bad but couldn't swing it right now. I have a FlySky gt3b radio w/ a HW 1080 esc & swapped out the swampers for some Hyrax tires. would you mind telling me what else you think would be the best parts upgrades as far as stuff breaking down etc & what the best Brushed (for now) motor would be or is the stock motor enough.. Thanks so much
Upgraded HD front axle shafts and maybe the HD axle housings along with shims on the tcase side of the middle driveshaft to keep the top gear alive.
@@ExocagedRC Awesome Thanks so much, I'll have to search your videos to get more info on shimming the Tcase side of driveshaft Im not exactly sure what you mean but Im sure I can figure it out or something. I appreciate all your help I enjoy your vids & learn a lot from you!! my next step is finding the best brushed motor for the money, something with good low end torque but yet decent wheel speed.... again Thank you
HKGuy Snowman#1 yeah I have a video on the spacer mod.
@@ExocagedRC just found it Thanks. I don't have access to a printer but I'm thinking maybe some metal shims stacked up might work. Thank you 👍🏻
@@ExocagedRC I noticed when taking my axle shafts apart everything factory stock is solid metal, the shafts all the gears? are you saying upgrade to an even more Heavy Duty metal like like a chromoly set? Thanks
Love the video brother, what size action figures seem to fit the best?
They both performed well how much $in OG to compare to Axe Addition?
Really valuable comparison !!
It seems that brushless motor doesn't give any real advantage in crawling... obviously compared with a good brushed vehicle.
What's your opinion ?
I disagree. I find you have much more low speed control with the Axe System. You can also change things like engine braking and wether or not it compensates wheel speed when it hits a load or not with your phone on the trail.
Why is the tyre colour so different, Axe tyres are grey?
not sure, I think they changed the compound as they don't seem to work as well as the older tires
@@ExocagedRC Thanks, I was looking that in the video there was no real difference. But great to hear that, I bought two Gen7 Sports to my kids and "upgraded" the tyres to Hyrax and something. I'm using the Gen7 Super Swamper IROKs in my own TRX-4 and SCX10 II. :D
I think they are perfect size and perform well on trails, not so good on rocks.
OG for the win
what exactly did you mean when you said (That Axe maybe thats why it flipped over & the other one didnt ??) what about it being Axe made it flip? or are you saying its Top heavy even beyond the gen 8? maybe I missed it if so sorry , Thanks
What I meant was the brushed motor gave up some power and was easier on the bounce. The Axe did not give up anything and turned it over.
@@ExocagedRC Oh ok cool I see what your saying now👍🏻... I'll still take that power any day 😂
Nice comparison and explanation, are you going to USTE?
I'll be there all 3 days, for sure, I plan to do a LOT of work out there with interviews recording trails, and events etc. Going to be a big weekend for everyone
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Same here Arkansas ozark mountains just set flags in the natural trails cause one thing Arkansas has a surplus of is rock.
Put some proline hyraxs on my axe and made a world of difference
Mike Rupe I did a video with the Proline Krawlers and yeah it did good but the foams were too soft.
My TRX4 Sport is running the HW1080 and HH Trailmaster Sport 27T. Are you getting as much low end torque with the smaller turn pro as you’d get with a 27T? I know the control of the HW1080 is great though. FYI that $220 Axe system is looking less interesting the more videos I watch
Jon Thomas if you’re referring to the Crawlmaster Pro 550 10t yeah it’s got way more power. The 5 slot design is awesome. Also I have 5 axe systems now and use them to compete with as well as general crawling.
Exocaged RC yeah just curious how well the $140 Crawlmaster Pro 550/1080 combo is vs the Axe at $220 for the 550 version
Jon Thomas it’s really good, I’ve got the 1080 and that motor in the Trx4 sport(ish) right now with a 15t pinion and 45t spur and it’s perfect.
nice course
I like the og in this comparison the axe is a bit top heavy (although I have the axe thanks to you lol) I think the axe is a better trail rig than a crawler but the og is a better crawler than a trail rig. Just my 2 cents.
Like I’ve always said, the OG dominates the Axe Edition in my opinion.
Dominates? Lol..Not sure how it dominates it? The electronics are no comparison. The Axe has the better guts. The body is heavy on the Axe. Not the best place for added weight. That's the only reason I believe it flipped over in the end. Both are great scale trucks. I just can't see one saying one dominates the other.
JPM788212 probably because I have how many of them, not just one or two. I mean many of them so I can say what’s up dude because I own almost every crawler there is as well so that’s how I know the OG gen8 dominates over the Axe. Sorry if this hurts your feelings😢 in some way but I’ve done a ridiculous amount of test because it’s fun for one and just so I can see what they can do. A $20 Holmes Hobby and stock ESC outdoes both of my Axe Editions. Have 4 OG’s and now 2 Axe so I can say it with knowledge to back it up. Don’t get your panties in a twist bro.
Oh yeah plus my OG’s are fully fully fully upgraded so they weigh a ton, I mean I guess with you I better clarify cause don’t want you to complain brother. They weigh a lot is that better. Axe has no proper upgrades for it yet do to all of the knew modifications have to buy correct axels.
@@kravenkrawlhobby5438 you don’t own every single crawler because if you did you wouldn’t have just posted one lame ugly ass paint job that you did. Nothing about the OG beats the axe 🪓 your just a hater because you can’t afford it.
USA I do own more crawlers than most people, you really want to be a moron and make a wager on it
should raise your rock sliders
Whoops laughed a little too early . That was awesome
don't go scratching that gen8axe!
Leave it stock?? Rip that axe out and stick in a castle. Lol
lol castle he said. I remember when they were good, for helis even.
@@michaelmonroe5034 Same. It's amazing how some just want to hold onto the past. All I know is that brands like Castle and Axial better get to work because they seem to have been resting on their laurels and are getting pounded by the competition right now.
@@theskeptik1 That'll never happen, not with Castle anyhow, maybe Axial products if they dont start updating .. The problem w/ Axe & what might run them outta buisness is that your limited to only AXE motors with their esc!! castle products such as Mamba X can be paired with any motor!! you buy an Axe esc you stuck buying an axe motor, no other choices work with it. so if you decide one day you want to thow the Axe esc in another truck laying around, your outta luck & buying another Axe motor!!
ouch
Not really a fair test when you consider all the upgrades and they have different tires on them to kind of a waste of time
Get rid of those crappy tires