Why PlayStation Now Depresses Me
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"It's the beginning of the end of conventional consoles."
Exactly, and I don't like this.
There will never be a time when the Internet is 100% reliable all the time. Thus there will always be a place for offline gaming.
You sir are right.
hate this pay a monthly or yearly fee thing. I want to buy the game once and keep it for good.
GuyVelella It's changed its gotten cheaper the streaming works great I still prefer physical copies of course but I kinda like having a library of games I never played but want to try cheaply via the subscription.
I never like PS Now
(Reason)
1: if your internet goes down, the game is useless
2: if your friend don't have internet, the Game is useless
get xbox then, any free game on xbox live is yours forever
+Welcome to ::::Heaven you are stupid!
+Welcome to Heaven i agree with the first one but people who buy a ps4 most likely will have a internet
Rent Sonic CD 90 Days for $4.99
Buy the actual game for $4.99
Yeah f--- that!
Genesis Does What Nintendoes!!! I remember when I saw that I can borrow Oculus Rift DK 2 for 1 day.... For the price of 1/5 of the product's price... So I can get it forever or just for 5 days for the same prize. Great.
Aiur Ikiza oculus is for sell now?
flaming wolf It is from like 2012. Where have you been lol
it wasn't for sell in 2014 it just now came for sell.
Aiur Ikiza if it was wouldn't it be like a ridiculous amount of monee? it took longer than season 4 to season 5 on mlp. or not
My video froze right when Rich said "We'll be able to stream 1080p games with no la-"
I hate digital distribution with a passion. I cant think of the last time I bought a full 60$ game via Steam. Id rather walk into a store, pick up a box, and buy it that way so I can give my self the illusion I'm back in the old days where we owned way more of our games then we do now. I know in the end I'm still basically buying nothing and will have to activate the key on Steam anyhow, but its like what Rich said, its more rewarding to see your purchase then just download it. Will make me very sad when boxes disappear and everything's in the cloud... to bad its the future.
People need to vote with their wallet. If I am forking out money for a game, I absolutely refuse to let it boil down to a rental service. I will sooner give up gaming if they try that shit.
Hey let's show them what we think, if they want us to pay give it, otherwise we crack games nad they get nothing!
Fuck cloud gaming. I want hardware and mods!
Fuck mods
Why? I don't want people hacking games, I want people making add-ons and making games better
benjamin parmeggiani I don't mind those kind of mods.
Other than that, they're trash.
init man
Finlay Norris exactly and as graphics get better and with 4k it won't be possible. luckily
Cloud gaming is never going to take over. You'll always be able to have the actual game on your hard drive, the day that stops is the day gaming ends. People won't pay for it, and the internet won't support it.
Yeah, I'd like to know what kind of server farm they expect manufacturers are going to create FOR EACH GAME at release, to process and serve out potentially millions of concurrent streams to dummy terminals. Many single player games require some serious hardware being dedicated to running them with decent or better fidelity. How exactly is this much dispersed processing power going to be recreated and centralized to stream out at that same level of quality? Short answer is it won't. Either the quality takes it up the ass or you let the clients do the work.
The only thing that I think Rich is correct about is that eventually, games will only be purchasable and obtainable online. But the cloud will never take over client-side processing. Gamers want better visual and audio quality in their games and a cloud will never offer that. And as games become even more demanding of the hardware (and they will until we hit the lifelike plateau), the thought of a cloud service keeping pace becomes ever more laughable.
The Cloud as a default gaming platform is a pie-in-the-sky dream.
Wrath Oranos The fact that if they stream games, and they have the right to end the game completely is the one thing that'll make this idea useless.
The instant somebody brings up the fact that they can turn off our games, and never again can we play them, it's done, forever.
Playstation Now?
More like Playstation Never!
wtf?
Vision Crew he is just saying he never wants it
Lucitaur OH NO YOU DIDN'T
+Sockover Dickgamer did you seriously just comment on a 2 year old post?
I like this guy. he is not bias towards any system. he's not a mindless wii u hater. and when he doesn't like a system he has... Actual reasons.
i honestly think Nintendo will be doing hardware until they die. i mean they got the handheld market by the balls.
Nintendo is an old bastrd
I will never change from my current tech until I can no longer gain from it.
I _LOVE_ physical copies of things.
Exactly. Your Games are safer as physical copies.
Raging Gamer How long until discs are made with a limited life before crumbling into powder?
Roger McKay Most CD's are made of polycarbonate and aluminum.
It would be unrealistic and ridiculous to try and make them biodegradable without losing the integrity of the disc and/or storage capabilities.
Raging Gamer
Obviously the current materials won't work.
***** Their decline was apparent after the creation of the Wii.
Digital just isn't the way to go.
I went to GameStop to get a game for my brother when I was gonna travel home, and since I could not think of what game to buy, I decided to get a steam $50 card. For my surprise, they did not give me the card. They gave me a receipt with a code written into it. I asked them if they could give me the card and they said no. So I get home and I give my brother a little fucking piece of paper with a number written on it. I was so pissed off.
Did I just hear him say that The Last of Us was bad?.. I might have to get my hearing checked..
It's called opinions you should understand what that is unless you are a fanboy
+Misja Debets pc peasent. All platforms Master race
+Jimmy Gangster It's a good game but horribly overated
I have: wii u, pc, laptop, ps4, Xbox one,
If it's developed by naughty dog then it's usually a masterpiece
When gaming goes all digital Mizzah Tee is done buying new games. I'll become a retro gamer and collector and begin playing games of the past that I never before got the chance to.
*****
LOL, I know how you feel. I've been quitting gamong for like 2 generations now. Then Nintendo drags me back in with cool ideas that get's me reinvigorated.
There have been so many of these massive changes that never actually happen. I remember when every IT tech I met said "In 5 years we will run all our software off USB sticks", The idea being that you can carry around a usb stick, and put it in a "dummy" terminal anywhere to use your own setup. Never happened. People will always want to be able to run their games locally and I don't think anyone would stand for it. Look at Microsoft and their DLC policies - Everyone hated it - Never happened. Another thing is Nvidia, AMD, and Intel aren't just going to let that happen - they need people to build their own machines to make a profit.
Does Sony even have enough money to do ensure that everything will run properly and be maintained? If this fails, it'll be a lot of money down the drain, as well as so many people distrusting Sony.
You gotta imagine that they're doing this to combat piracy, too.
Quite frankly, I hope those pirates find a way to steal the files from the cloud and burn it on discs for people to own..
They're other people's heroes like that.
Im so fucking sick of all this new shit being implemented into the gaming industry. Why can't we just play games we want without having to care about all this shit. So many shit have changed and companies such as microsoft and sony are just finding ways to make more and more money.
The cloud scares me. I don't really use anything cloud at all. Hell, the only digital downloads I like are Steam games. I still buy CDs if I can. I love having physical things.
sdasds sadsd pc really doesn't have more freedom then consoles when it comes to games. except for graphics.(if you want to spend shit load of money upgrading your pc) being a player of both pc and consoles they are the same. console makes it easier just to pop in and play.( maybe after a update or 2)
I am really worried about the people who disliked this video... Will they ever be able to breath on their own? Will their brain damage heal? Poor people...
I think the industry will crash before what you're talking about happens.
Hey, thanks again for making Mega Man Unlimited! I really enjoyed that game. ^^
Kirito Kazuto
Thanks! ^_^ I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Of course, how could I not? It brought back so many memories of playing MM2 on NES, I'm enternally grateful for your existence, MegaPhilX!
+zBobb1118z Hey man, what the hell is your problem?! I'm well aware that is name is Kirigaya but I'm free to interpret Kirito how I please. Of course, that doesn't mean I will make Kirito into some retarded ass Super Saiyan or some gayass vampire like a certain Edward Cullen or some ridiculous shit like that. Don't like it, too bad. How about you shut your smartass mouth and go fuck yourself?!
The idea alone is stupid. I mean come on no physical copies or art work covers?
Would developers really be so freaking lazy and greedy for money that they would go and do that? If sony or microsoft dies there should be another company to rise and make consoles and save the gaming industry.
I want to buy a game bring it home and play it while also admiring the art work on the covers. If these were taken away then gaming would die.
I hope it never happens.
That's what people said about music and movies and look what happened. Streaming is more popular now than buying physical copies and it will happen to games too. Artwork will still exist, it will just appear in a menu screen than on a box. Give it 10 years and it will be the normal thing.
And yes, if developers and publishers can save enough money on production then they will
And i swear if they do go to digital copies only they better darn well make online services free
AstrosGamer well by online services you mean multiplayer (xbox live gold and ps plus) then yeah that would be good. The Crew NEEDS ps plus so thats pretty much a useless game for me.
We will still have physical copies but theres the chance that streaming becomes a more preferable option for its convience. Yea music and movies and very popular in the digital and streaming world but you can still go out and get a dvd or a cd
IF this comes true... IF all gaming goes cloud-based... I'm done. No more gaming for me. Might still play my old consoles, but yes. I won't pay for games that I don't even own. Sounds like an insanely dumb idea.
Same here I don't like the idea that all my hard earned cash goes to waste if the company's servers go belly up or the fact that they seem to have more control over whether or not you play the game even though you paid a good $60 for it.
think of the bigger picture this new digital stuff is going to save the environment. Resources are going to be saved. Less pollution.
companys are greedy and cheap... thier not going to spend more to research and do this.. so this is the only way companies can be greedy and save the environment i say go digital...
what happens when like he said the company goes out of business? can't download the games before they shutdown, you wasted your money on all the games you bought. There has to be a physical backup of some sort for gamers. What if something else happens to that streaming service/cloud? It's bad to rely on one source for our games that can be gone pretty quickly. Same with books if there is no physical book out there and companies deem the book not worthy of putting it for sale on their stores? Electronic sources can get shutdown by companies not doing well, hackers that feel like taking down a service for fun or getting paid by another company to do it.
***** physical games are going away anyways so why bother
they may work something out but think about it. You can't collect your game boxes anymore or you destroy the earth so you can have your boxes idk i dont think its all bad
the day physical games will no longer be sold is the day i stop buying new games
Youre forgeting that Sony arent letting you stream PS4 games, i think that streaming services will be limited to older games and games that Sony cant make a profit off like ps1 games or games that slump in sales plus i believe this thing WILL have limitations, i just dont see it streaming full Next gen titles that need 5 GB of RAM and 1.50 Tflop gpus.
i can see why it depresses you Rich but remember people want to own their games not rent them just look at blockbuster.
I honestly don't want cloud gaming. Devalues everything.
And thus making it affordable!
"Games are cheap already. Only 60 dollars"
>cheap. 60 dollars
>60
***** I meant it devalues my purchase. If I pay $60 for a game on the cloud it is at risk of being lost and I can never play it on a different account or do a lot of other things with it. You honestly think Sony and MS will follow steam's lead and give us weekly sales on stuff besides the scrub games? No, they'll use these services to exploit us through convenience and once gamefly, gamestop and redbox games fall apart they'll jack the price back up to $60 for a 2 year old game.
The golden age of gaming is behind us.
we knew that 10 years ago. lol
New games will not be available with the service. check your facts, only pre-ps4 games will be available and you will buy your new games normally STOP MISINFORMING PEOPLE ON ALMOST ALL OF YOUR VIDEOS!
I remember bringing home both my 360 and my PS3 and those are moments that I will never forget.
If this happens, people will just play older games. It's that simple.
Before I watch the video, I must say this: Rich, Cloud gaming and Disc gaming _can_ coexist. They _can_.
After watching the video, I feel the same way. Could you make another video stating _why_ they couldn't? Unless the publisher simply didn't want to produce disks, disks can stay.
I would rather take digital distribution, then pay a monthly fee for a streaming service. These companies are going to take advantage, and abuse this service. We've seen it done in the past, and this will further strengthen the anti-consumer practices of DRM. You'll never own anything anymore, and every game that you'll play will be at the mercy of the publisher/service. Plus, if those servers go down, that's it, you'll never see that game again. That's why i'm against an all-digital future, because the games that i pay for, will be at the mercy of the company who wants to put restictive DRM in their services. There's also the fact that most of the classic games like Mega Man Legends, Brave Fencer Musashi, and Vectorman are still not on any digital storefront right now, and there's a very good chance those games are going to disappear into obscurity forever, thus the gaming community will lose out on a piece of history. Again, i'll support digital downloads, over cloud gaming anyday, because at leat i'll be able to own the game on my hard drive forever.
Digital distribution + DRM and server based play like Diablo 3 would still render a game unplayable. So whether it's digital, or streamed, companies could still take advantage.If there was a "server down" issue, the same could still happen. In the end it is up to the consumer, will we let these things happen? Anyway your point is mute if you consider these facts.
Once u get used to digit-ital distribution you will much prefer it
Cipher Zero Yes, and the sad fact is that there are big named companies who will use cloud gaming as a way to vaccum more money from the consumer. There are still AAA games being sold for retail prices, instead of them being cheaper. If the pubishers want to defeat retail, they have to lower the prices to $40, a game.
TheEvilAdventurer
Not really, I don't mind it, but that sense of physical ownership and value will always be there
***** I see digital distibution being the future, but these companies need to stop with the DRM bullshit, and stop charging $60 fucking dollars for 4-hour games, with crappy multiplayer.
Lol before they go completely cloud the broadband infrastructure needs upgrading dramatically because millions of people all trying to stream just wont be possible for years, latency alone would be a nightmare.
I agree with pretty much everything you said in this video. I enjoy having a game to open up rather than downloading it. I also miss when game manuals were actually good and told you about the game before you played it. Game manuals used to describe the weapons and enemy classes in games as well.
I hope that the monetary issues you discussed keep this from happening for as long as possible. The day physical copies finally end will be a sad one for me. :/
Nintendo blocked them from taking full root in that market
nintendo is worth more then sony make a vid about that
Jaleco fighting game on the SNES? Tuff-E-Nuff?
Galeco* :p
Matt Hall Jaleco* - Ja-panese Le-isure Co-mpany
ReviewTechUSA, your videos have given me a lot to think about...
It's not just the internet speed that's a problem internet speed is no problem but not having unlimited internet and having to STREAM a game is the problem
Yeah having a cap on your bandwidth is a bitch.
Think about the whole Marver vs capcom series. Its not downloadable anymore, and theres no dlc. That could happen at any time to any game.
I always say it. I'm not paying more than 5 bucks for a game does not exist physically!! So if this happens guess what ? All my money is going to retro games! There will always be enough games I never played that I'm goma finally get to play
how can one hate The Last Of Us???! :-O
I hate the last of us, boring game.
As an old school gamer that started on the Atari 2600 i totally agree with you, it always feel good to have a physical game in your hand. But people like my son that are in middle school, have grown up on digital distribution and it doesn't phase them at all ... And kids born today will think that a physical game is primitive technology ... Sad ...
I really don't like the cloud because you need internet and you really don't always have internet. Even in 20 years.
"Bandwidth won't be a problem"
Yeah, maybe around the time the PS7, WiiUWiiU and Xbox180-4 come out.
You're being way too optimistic about the time frame. We'll get there in 10 years? Try 15-20 at the earliest. There is no way in hell the internet infrastructure is going to improve this much in such a short amount of time.
You can't make a cloud streaming service mandatory until every single potential consumer has access to it; and that includes people who are still stuck with fucking dial-up today.
It all started with the manuals man I love having manuals in the case I remember when I was younger riding in the backseat reading the manual while going home excited as all hell to play
I have to admit there is something about physically owning a game rather than having it on a hard drive
Uhhh I think a better question is that how the hell will the companies handle not only bandwidth but electric costs and the streaming costs?
Yeah...physical games are so going away. Like books,DVDs and music CDs did before them...Oh wait!
Yeah people though that e-books would replace books, well Chapters (which is a huge book store chain in Canada) is still around and highly successful.
Says he doesn't play new games....makes videos with COD:G and Metal Gear Rising.
i agree i also love physical copies of things and it would be pretty shit if those weren't available any more
As a hardcore gamer, I only buy physical copy of the game so I know I still able to play them 10+ years later even after their server or company is long gone.
Or just buy it online, download it and burn it to a disc.
Last Gen is the last good experience.
After a half century of collecting games, movies & books, I'm equally depressed over this damn cloud crap. I could care less, I bought a new back up Xbox 360 E just to preserve my gaming for years to come. I'm also grabbing a 500GB PS3 for the same reason. I love my PS2 still & will never lose the thrill of physical collecting, the future of gaming stinks.
Suddenly, a house catches on fire.
.Many tears will be shed, then.
Buy a second copy and bury them in a bunker.
I'll buy them all again, it's that important to me.
Like I always say, I'm done with modern gaming if it moves strictly to server-based streaming. There's nothing better than having a physical product.
Want a really awesome and powerful PC?
Well fuck that idea because soon you won't even need a PC, just interent, MY PC IS AWESOME BUT MY INTERNET IS BARELY EVER UP,
Every game will have DRM up the ass and cost you possibly hundreds;
servers getting full? They'll probably just ban random players, it's not like you own that game anyway.
The streaming service isn't for new games--it is for older games. The reason why they are doing Last of Us is because Sony owns it, so they can. But new games will be sold as is, and then after a year or so, once they stop selling as much, it will go into the clouds.
And to be honest, the company will most likely make more money this way than without the service. Because right now, people are buying used games down the road, and the company makes 0 bucks off of used games sold. Whereas with the service, the company will make X amount for each game streamed.
So I don't think price is a problem.
As for nostalgia, I do hear you there, but my nostalgia remains with SNES and N64, Xbox, PS1, PS2. As for future kids, they won't get that anymore, but they will find nostalgia in new aspects of gaming, just as we did, and just as those in the past did.
Do I fear the day physical disks are no more? Yes: I like physically owning a copy, and I like being able to sell the games I don't want or liked. It makes me shudder to think I could end up buying a game like Raccoon City for 60 bucks and not being able to sell it back the next day. It's going to suck for kids, too, who get their new games by trading in old ones.
Yet, to me, we get to be the generation that got to experience this transition first hand. We weren't grandfathered in, and we weren't too old to not care.
I am a huge collector, mostly of 1980 era games and up. One of my favorite things about video games is the box art and instruction manuals. For example one of my favorite games Fallout 1 had a amazing instruction book. I remember spending hours reading it at school trying to memorize all the controls in study hall.
It was a interesting funny read.
Now in 2014, times have changed. We barely get a disc with a one page instruction manual for sixty + dollars (new title) Its fucking pathetic. I hate stream services like Steam/Valve, they pretty much paved the way for this horse shit.
A bought a copy of Final Fantasy 7 on steam, installed it. I went to go play this cool epic game, until i found out i had to register for another "Square/Enix Cloud Server account." I uninstalled it, and haven't bought a steam game since.
I agree completely with you. Heck, when I bought the Zelda WiiU bundle that came with a digital download, I also got the Wind Waker HD hard copy just so that I could have a physical representation. Especially with Zelda games. I just HAVE to have hard copies of my Zelda games.
I like you, want to be able to have physical copies of these games so I can play my favorites 10 years later.
TheInkBlott Or you could stream the game 10 years later
If the company goes dead you wont be able to. Im not anti streaming and digital I am just wary of games disappearing because they no longer matter to the companies that have to have certain relationships in keeping it on a service.
TheInkBlott Historically, that hasn't proven to be much of an issue. Sega and Atari may not make hardware but they continue to make software. There always be ways to play these games, one way or another.
Sega and Atari are companies that have kept up with providing their games on many platforms because there is demand for them. Your general statements are not really convincing me of your point. Capcom and Square enix are very much still around but the virtual console is missing many games they release simply because they dont feel there is interest in them. Im not sure if you are understanding me but I am not talking about sonic the hedehog 2 or space invaders which will be on every gaming platform known to man. I am talking about games like demons crest and bionic commando. I really do not mean your mainstream hits they are obvious go to's for ports. I really dont know how to explain it to you.
If everything gets this complicated, just get a PC and dont worry about it.
XInfinity2013 No, but Valve knows what they're doing.
Jerry Johnson Sorry, some of us aren't Valve fanboy sheeps.
Rigby Im not a fanboy. They provide an excellent service. They will probably always lead in PC as a platform.
Abba Okoro Uhhhh...I guess me playing my Steam games offline over the holidays without internet was my imagination?
The point being made is that you will be required to have a highspeed internet connection to play games. If you haven't been paying attention lately internet aint cheap. In 5 years or so it will be $100+ for an isp's standard tier and it will likely be capped.
i want to play off the discs that i have payed for .....not have to pay for the games a second time
Do you really believe people will just automatically migrate to cloud gaming without experiencing some kind of resistance to the huge change? I mean I know personally that the people that I game with (granted all of us are in our 20's) will not purchase digital games or use cloud services simply because we like to know that we own a physical copy of the product we purchased. It feels safer and more concrete to us when we can hold that product. I think the same can be said for the previous generation of gamers (i.e., the 80's kids). In a a video you posted a few days ago you said that the majority of gamers were above the age of 30 I believe. This means that you will essentially have to deal with a demographic group that may not like these changes. When the majority of customers don't agree / like these changes how can they proceed? Can they afford to really upset that big of a market?
hey people are migrating to digital downloads pretty well
We are NEVER gonna get to a point where everything is streamed we're always gonna be able to own games it'll be all digital eventually but not all streaming
Even worst they will partner with a ISP/Cable company. Then make you buy the game streaming in a package.
1st? O my I did it. I feel so accomplished! No not really I'm going to edit this with a real comment after I finish the video.
EDIT:I agree with rich. But I think digital distribution is ok. Streaming the games is kind of questionable. And I get what he means by things are no longer being physical. Back during the Original Xbox days games came with actual manuals. Halo 2 came with a manual and it had little descriptions of the enemy, master chief, and vehicles (drivable or not) in it. I really miss that. Now you have to buy a guide book or settle with a thin piece of paper with some legally required health warnings. I like digital distribution but the streaming of games seems really iffy. But I can imagine the subscription fee being to much.
Oh but you didnt.
xfase98 Oh but he was!
I want your babies! Your the first so you are the alpha male!
xfase98
The video is 14 minutes long. He posted it 10 minutes ago. Now read his comment again.
IRNatman juanjose925 was 12 min ago to.
Remember onlive? thats alright no one does
The only thing depressing about playstation now is its not out yet booya
If I wanted a game and didn't want it to display on my shelf, I'd pirate it for PC.
This is one of the best videos u ever made rich! I can't be as nostalgic as you since I'm in my early 20's but I'm still a 90's baby so I know the feels!
Everything won't be on the cloud if people don't like it lol. Remember Microsoft's DRM restrictions?
I think you are freaking out a bit too much here rich. This reminds me of your old videos saying that tablets will replace consoles
I don't care how many free games Playstation Now offers; I'm not paying for a glorified Gamefly that blocks off online multiplayer behind a paywall at the same time.
I won't support Plus or Now going forward.
I know I'm in the minority, but I'm also saving money for games that I'll get to OWN rather than rent.
PS Plus is 50 dollars a year. Which is less than a single new game today, and in that timeframe, exactly HOW many games do you get for free? Tons. Most of them I don't even care about owning, so I really don't see the problem here. I'm also exactly ZERO percent affected by the fact that the PS4 requires ps plus to play multiplayer because... I'm already subscribed to it, and I have no plans on stopping any time soon.
Btw, judging by your username, I'd suspect the Playstation isn't even your preferred console, so of course you'd be opposed to everything they do lol.
OmegaWeaponX2 I won't support PS Plus or Now either. Only $50 a year? The way I see it, that's DOUBLE the cost of the console. $50 per year for 8 years (which will be the life of the console) is $400. That's the same price I paid for the PS4! It's like an $800 console, only half down and the other half on an annual payment plan. The free games aren't free- they're rented for a price. $400 for the generation to be exact. And I buy everything I want, because I like owning the copy. I like knowing I can play it today, next month, next year or twenty years from now. I like being able to sell what I paid for too, if I ever so desired. Whereas with Plus, you lose EVERYTHING in the blink of an eye, the minute you miss a payment. I just don't believe in such a premise. The games you get in exchange, most of them are old or not that great. And I've never seen a single PS Plus game that I actually wanted to play that I hadn't already purchased.
Uh, no, you DON'T lose everything if you miss a payment, that's a load of horseshit. It all stays in your download history, so even if you're not with ps plus anymore, you can still download those same games when you renew your subscription at any time.
Let's say you don't buy a single physical copy of a game for the next 8 years, and instead go for ps plus. $400. One new game a month, let's say that each of them was worth 20 bucks at the time it was offered free for ps plus. That's $240. Another year passes by and you get 12 more games. That's $480 of games that you have received.... and so far you've paid how much? $100. Keep in mind, it is NOT just 12 games you get in one year, it's a LOT more. Whether you find the games interesting or not is irrelevant, the value is there.
I like owning physical copies of games as well, but only games I am really interested about, such as The Last of Us, GTA V, Dark Souls, etc. etc. If I get to play a bunch of games that I don't feel like owning for the year at a hugely discounted rate, I would say, YES PLEASE.
Jaxon Holden To be fair to PS Plus you only lose access to those games while your subscription has lapsed. The minute you start it up again you gain access to ALL the previous games you downloaded. Now if some new games come and go while you are inactive you won't have those.
OmegaWeaponX2 $50 a year is about what I spent on 50 Steam games this year, including several all-time great games.
Also, paying just to play online multiplayer for a game you dropped upwards of $60 (plus the $60 of DLC Call of Duty and other such franchises make) is stupid.
I get the PS Plus PS3 system (with free online), but the PS4 one is just too anti-gamer IMO, which sucks since that console has no worthy exclusives right now IMO.
Well the courts ruled a few things today. 1) ISPs are allowed to data cap all they want to. And 2) They're allowed to throttle some internet traffic and force users to pay extra for access to certain sites or services.
Exactly digital is not everything. Everyone is so hype for everything to go digital when they don't realize nor see the consequences or losses.
i live in europe in the countryside.... ive been downloading forza 5 for 3 days non stop and its at 60%.... and the internet has been shit for as long as i remember... i love cd based games and fuck the cloud...
I feel ya, man! I don't have a dedicated landline or anything like that, I have to use my cellphone, and use its WiFi hotspot. Downloading 12 GB games takes DAYS! Game streaming? No, thank you!
Crazy slow internet... its a miracle that i can actually play online... usually lags but i get a few good matches a day. Long way off from digital distribution
Leo Kay You guys are the reason companies won't transition into pure digital. Pure digital cost less money, but compared to the money they won't get from people like you keeps physical copies alive.
Until internet connection availability outweighs the profit loss of those who don't have internet connection, the physical will still remain. :D
lots of people dont like digital distribiution... we are the reason? pff shitty internet is the reason.. give your credit card info to websites and get hacked... fuck that most people dont want to go all digital.
ZeroSilence91 Yes, it's OUR fault companies try to scam you on things like bandwidth, data caps, and other things. It's our fault telecom companies are fraudulent. Right?
cloud technology is cool when you dont care about keeping the things, is that why i have a netflix account, i dont really care about having these movies and series forever, i just want to watch them right now, so having a cloud service is good, but i agree, if the ONLY option we have is a cloud service, it will be shit, it will take a shit at the value of the products, i'm a game colector, if the only way i can get a game is by a cloud... oh god, i dunno what i would do...
I totally agree with you
I agree totally. A thing that could solve it is releasing future consoles with two different price points. The first one could be an expensive version that can only play physical copies of the game and it requires a lower monthly fee for online gameplay. The second one could be a less expensive version that only streams gameplay, this one requires a higher monthly fee for both online gameplay and the streaming service.
The new generation won't care though. Maybe a few but they will be the minority.
and that is not a thing to be proud, is a shame, and a sign that life meaning is only getting worse and worse, you dont even have the things you love anymore, you let the others have it for you
The bandwidth argument is not valid based on the fact that ISP's in the US are providing less and less bandwidth. Especially where upload bandwidth is concerned (Which would be a huge necessity for streaming a game.) You're right overall, but your idea that the Internet is 'evolving" is not based in reality. Trans-Pacific Partnership (The new SOPA/PIPA/CISPA only it wont go through congress which is technically illegal.) You're dead right about the rest of it.
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he may not have another option, i know i only have 1 option. and i'm not going to get dsl, i don't consider that an option.
A dummy using a dummy terminal... sounds like a fair explanation of a console gamer.
+Jeremy Madsen no it is not...
it's a fair explanation of a console peasant
I don't think that physical copies will ever die out. MP3 has been around for over a decade, yet I still buy CDs.
Everything you are saying is absolutely right, but I disagree that cloud gaming and computing is the future. It's simply just a gimmick. OnLive for example, was one of these cloud gaming services, but it flopped, and they're only keeping it online simply because people have bought games on it that they can't download.
It doesn't just limit to gaming either - the whole concept of "the cloud" is merely a huge gimmick. Chrome OS is an example - it's absolutely shit. The most you can do with it is play that crappy Angry Birds game over the cloud, but it emphasises cloud storage since it has no hard drive. What if your internet goes down? You won't be able to access your files. What if Google suddenly disappears in the future for whatever reason? You're putting your files in the hands of a company whose fate you can never predict. You could lose those files forever if you rely on the cloud for your primary means of file storage, which is why you should ONLY rely on cloud storage for backup purposes.
Large companies and enterprises will never, ever invest in a cloud storage service for this reason, so why should the consumer. The Cloud is not the future. I'm not opting in to it.
I understand that these guys want to do all of this but my country would have immense issues with this idea. Australia has terrible internet connections unless you live in a capital city. Also, our internet service providers use data cap. :(
I actually don't have a problem with this whole PlayStation thing.. Because I did not buy these games on the PS3 I have them on the Xbox 360 so it's not really bother me. But I don't do online play much anyways I normally do story modes. So I probably wont pay for anything except for games on PS4.
The issue with streaming, is not the bandwidth, I live in a 3rd world country, and I have 7Mbs. The problem is the latency, Video Game companies would have to place servers all over. I really hope physical copies don;t go away, though I;ve been using steam a lot, and it's a non-issue since i can DL the games and have them, now streaming would really place us in a bad position depending on where they have the servers, and on top of that the fact that they can stop hosting the game we like to play just because they don't deem it profitable.
I only buy games in physical format. Hate downloading games which could get pulled at anytime. Love being able to hold and see the product.
I agree with rich. But I think digital distribution is ok. Streaming the games is kind of questionable. And I get what he means by things are no longer being physical. Back during the Original Xbox days games came with actual manuals. Halo 2 came with a manual and it had little descriptions of the enemy, master chief, and vehicles (drivable or not) in it. I really miss that. Now you have to buy a guide book or settle with a thin piece of paper with some legally required health warnings. I like digital distribution but the streaming of games seems really iffy. But I can imagine the subscription fee being to much.
The reason for having manuals being digital is to save paper. Does it really matter?
***** Yeah it does matter. If you weren't around when manuals use to actually have information in them about the game and the characters in the game then you will never understand how cool it was that they did that.
***** is is to save PAPER money tho
mono gordo Yea I figured this was the reason.
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I was around when games had manuals with them and to be honest I never even looked at them unless I was looking for the controls or I was anxious to play the game and was reading it on the way back home from the store. Nowadays the games show the controls in game and I order all my games online so I can play it as soon as its in my hands so I think its good that got rid of it, it will save trees that way.
so basically you are trying to say that this is how they are planning the future of gaming and it is something that we will all just have to accept and learn to live with at some point.. when nobody buys into their shit which is what would happen from the word go what would happen? they would instantly shit theirselves and realise they had made a mistake and be forced go go in the opposite direction. ITS AS SIMPLE AS THAT. they have not got the power to do such things. they might think they have untill they realise nobody will buy into their crap. IM SORRY BUT IF THE CUSTOMERS GET TOGETHER AND SAY NO THEIR IS NOT A LOT THEY CAN DO OTHER THAN REVERSE STUPID DECISIONS LIKE MICROSOFT FOUND OUT
everything in this video sounds like a very irrational fear.
Honestly every time you said the word "bother" in this video, I thought you were saying "balder" XD
End of consoles..... Look dummy, the only country to have fibre optic everywhere is South Korea, the rest of the world is not ready for mass streaming.
well see, the big problem is that internet providers are putting caps on the data (250-500 gb). not to mention that most internet providers only increase there bandwidth every 10 years, and for most people the highest download is about 50 mb/s witch is very far away from 1 or 2 gb/s.
I agree with you that streaming is what console devs want, but internet providers don't even like netfix, not even thinking about trying to stream with no input lang 1080p (or by that time 4k) 30-60 fps.
In britain we get unlimited 'bandwidth' depending on the service we choose.
***** bandwidth is internet speed
partha sarathy well the cost for sony of nintendo to make faber would be very high
and google has been trying to make google fiber for over 10 years now, and they are just starting to roll out.
Am I missing something here? I thought the service was only used for streaming past generations of games (the PS1, PS2, and PS3 eras)
I think you need to SLOW DOWN man. We don't even know when the service is coming or if it evens works well. Let's wait for it to release before we scream doomsday.
I fully agree man history and memories are something important. I still have my Nintendo 64 I had it since I was in elementary school. Though I wish my parents hadn't sold my super Nintendo. I never liked digital distribution except when it brought niche titles over here. I hate cloud gaming. whats the point sure you can have it all there but its not the same man its basically trapped in the network and once that is gone boom its all gone :(.no memories no looking back at that one game and saying I remember this I loved this when I was younger me and my friend use to love it. not even that only faded memories of what was it that I enjoyed back then.
MY WHOLE THING IS WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN TO GAMESTOP AND OTHER GAME STORES IF THOSE PLACES SHOT DOWN WOULD THER BE A DECREASE IN GAMING ACCESSORIES TOO?
Whenever I buy a game full price I always try to buy the physical copies. Playstation Now does not concern me because I will not be using it. Streaming videogames is a stupid idea that I wont be taking part in.
I call bullshit, this is an Overreaction.
1.Streaming games will never (atleast in our lifetime) fully replace hard disks, not everyone has a stable enough connection to be running all the time.
I'm sure streaming games will have a lot of instability and connection issues and a lot of people (including me) are not interested in having to wait for their game to buffer, experience LAG or even DISCONNECTING from SINGLEPLAYER mode.
2.If this takeover were to happen you'd first have to have everyone in the western world having a completely solid and speedy internet connection. DVD's and Blu Rays are still around aren't they? Despite Netflix, Lovefilm and Hulu.
3.Secondly, casual gamers. They make up the majority of gamers and most aren't willing to pay a monthly fee for something they only have time for once or twice a fortnight.