Are we forgetting the fight where they literally fought each other and Itachi came out on top 4/5 of the five clashes? Nagato only ever wins because of his hacks. Itachi is a better hand to hand fighter, smarter, faster , and had much more in his arsenal in terms of win conditions then nagato. The author lost showed us Itachi fighting nagato more then evenly
He got his arms sealed which mainly caused him intense pain and not being able to use chakra with his hands but cause he kept swapping bodies more often then the 3 years the bodies normally would’ve lasted due to his arms practically dying. But when he did swap he was able to sort of use his arms just not to mold chakra for jutsus
True^^ The arms Hiruzen took was basically the arms of Oro.’s soul. So after that, he’d have to transfer bodies more frequently to use his arms, but couldn’t do Justus. Even that didn’t completely stop him cause he could easily fight using seals and summonings, which he was capable of doing without even weaving hand signs.
Danzō messed up both Nagato and Itachi. - Danzō snitched to Hanzo about Yahiko's Akatsuki and had Yahiko die. - Danzō stole Shisui's eye and gave Itachi an ultimatum for the Uchiha.
Soo what they both still committed atrocious acts just because you were screwed over by somebody doesn't mean you should do evil things of you want us to forgive them then let's us forgive obito
@@rondareongaming9161 itachi strong but he not destroying nagato those are free ones for nagato we all seen what happened to the strongest version of itachi when they fought
One really big issue that people forget about Edo Nagato, is he was still being controlled by Kabuto, someone who was shown several times not knowing all the ins and outs of each character he revived and their respective abilities. With Nagato he just spammed abilities without much thought and didn't even use his sensory ability (Which would pretty much make Nagato impossible to sneak up on along with the shared vision of the rinnegan)
@@sixpathshashira he absolutely did use the sensory abilities. It just that Itachi was there and aware of those abilities so he went for the eyes with shurikens imbued with phoenix firestyle. I still agree that it would’ve been difficult if it was Nagato who was in control
@ When did Kabuto use Nagato's sensory abilities? Nagato only used them himself when he still had white hair, but after Kabuto took full control it didn't show him using them. I feel like Nagato would've been able to sense Itachi's full susanoo hiding behind smoke given he sensed amateratsu before it even activated. Itachi went for the eyes yes, which stopped shared vision from working but Nagato himself is a sensory type shinobi
@ I just went back to watch the fight to see if I was chatting shit. He 100% uses the sensory abilities. It was when he was pulling Naruto’s soul out so bee had to intervene, but the summon thing that sucks souls and the frog summon both saw him before nagato did
@ not only that but Itachi timed his attack at the perfect moment. The 2 summons that had noticed bee were then sent to deal with bee, so pain was on Naruto, and the summons were in bee, so there was a moment where Itachi could dash in without being seen. Rinnegan sensory abilities r kinda mid compared to Sage mode sensory abilities
@ I think we're talking about two different things though. You're talking about the rinnegan's shared vision, which like you explained is how the frog and king of hell (thing that sucks souls) saw Bee allowing Nagato/Kabuto to react to him. What I'm talking about is the sensory ability of Nagato alone, separate from the rinnegan. It's how he managed to detect where Kabuto was hiding (which is how Itachi knew where to find him later on), and sense Itachi using Amateratsu. Think of characters like Karin, Minato, or Tobirama... they all have insane sensory abilities just because they are sensory type shinobi. Other examples are Mu and Ino
Honestly, the only reason people underestimate Nagato against people like Itachi, Obito or Madara is because Nagato got so little screen time, while thw rest were actually used well by Kishi, that it's too hard to remember the tiny bits which tell us how strong Nagato was
Lol I'm not an Itachi fan but I do think if he used izanagi into totska blade I feel like this would genuinely catch him by surprise I'm a die hard nagato fan he is the best villain by and the best arc but this show is about being a ninja and deception which I definitely think Itachi has Iq wise where as nagato is just insanely strong with huge chakra pull
At 33:33 nick you are wrong there cuz itachi knew about edo tensei even Nagato as deidara and satori went to fight and itachi even told them how to stop it by restricting its movement
One mistake i noticed in the vid. The reason White hair Nagato did not react to amaterasu was actually because Itachi only reprogrammed himself with the crow. Nagato was not programmed to fight other Edo Tensei, thus did not fight back Itachi at all in that stage. As we for example see Nagato warn Bee and Naruto when Itachi was charging his MS way ahead of anything before. He himself if having the choice there would not want to fight back anyway, but defenately could have absorbed Amaterasu like any other ninjutsu. He did not have to physicly move to dodge when he can simply activate a preta path shield even without any physical motion as we saw in the fight after. It was why Kabuto was forced to intervene in the first place.
Itachi isn't dumb enough to do this though, it's literally not at all how he fights, he uses low chakra-cost jutsus like basic Genjutsu, Fire Style, and Shurikenjutsu to solve an opponent's techniques before he decides which one of his like 6 one shot hax abilities will win the fight. You're thinking of Sasuke, fool.
Itachi fans takes debates too seriously. They have fragile ego. They cannot acknowledge how much of a beast Nagato is. They just can't conceive their fav character is beaten by someone of the same tier of level, they won't have trouble accepting Itachi being weaker than Hashirama or Sasuke bcs It's an obvious thing, but when It's Nagato or Obito who are closer to him It hurts them personally.
In my opinion Itachi is one of the most Unique, Authentic and Influential characters from the series. The thing that people underestimate about Itachi fights/encounters, isn't just his power, (it's mainly writters or Kishimoto's fault for making Itachi seem or to look very powerful throughout the series) but how smart and intelligent he is during various situations, he never, ever underestimates his opponents because of his composure and his way of being, the level of thinking he's on honestly dwars most people in the series, with only people like Minato and Shikaku comparable with him. More precisly, Itachi isn't just any ordinary Shinobi also, he pretty much knows and he's also aware that all strong opponents have weaknesses (including himself), and he specializes in finding those "weaknesses" and exploiting them ("*Even the strongest of opponents always has a weakness*" - Uchiha Itachi) because he's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. Itachi is very unique and authentic, especially in the factor of facing various encounters approach, his unpredictability in his way of fighting style approach it's his key factor in all of his encounters. Being blind or nearly blind has never slowed him down (especially when he's pretty much serious, but that's the point, he has never go all out against anyone during the series.) Itachi it's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. (at least that's what we were shown in the anime by the creator Masashi Kishimoto). Moral of the story, never underestimate Itachi. He did more sick than most healthy ninjas do in their entire life. In my opinion No One should underestimate such an unpredictable Shinobi like Itachi, even Madara (I won't say that Itachi can beat him, but at least he will be pretty much able to put a decent fight that Madara will also be impressed in my opinion). Also how can some of you guys even consider that Totsuka Blade it's slow when no such speed feat has been shown through the Shippuden that state it that it is slow? All of you are assuming it to be slow it may not be the case... Its not that the sword is unavoidable but it clearly has a very long range and is a very long blade. If you look at the manga, Naruto, Bee and Itachi are all relatively small from Nagato's point of view, and you can see the Totsuka Blade extending all the way from Itachi, piercing through Nagato, and still managing to nearly pop out toward the reader out of the page. I would say its fast because Kabuto coudldn't even react to it, and its not like Nagato was completely immobile to the point that he couldn't sidestep the blade. Also, Kabuto controlling people from far away is never stated to inhibit the Edos' reaction speed in any way. Being controlled by someone thousands of miles away didn't stop the Third Raikage from dodging KCM Naruto's Rasenshuriken. And as for Orochimaru, the sword struck him in between syllables of a word during his speech. I think that that is pretty fast. Pair the Totuska Blade with a good feint and its lethal because its ethereal, meaning it can pierce through any object. If the sword didn't live up to its reputation then Orochimaru wouldn't seek it out. People need to stop downplaying Itachi and denying the very clear speed feats of Totsuka. There is no room for interpretations here. The advantage of being an Uchiha, especially for Itachi and Madara, is that during an encounter against them, they always have a counter because of their unpredictable way of fighting factor, they don't run out of options or techniques, they almost always have a counter in their arsenal, even forbidden jutsus seems irrellevant against them, only a few Uchihas know a certain way to approach the situation with a certain and effective technique, that's why is hard/difficult to fight against them in my opinion. ☯️ 🤷🏻♂️ Here are the things that make Itachi so formidable. Tsukuyomi - A genjutsu so powerful that you literally can't escape it unless you have the same blood as Itachi, as stated by Itachi himself and proven later by Sasuke, or you're a jinchuriki. Jinchuriki are supposed to be immune to genjutsu but it hasn't been proven, but when Bee was fighting Edo Nagato and Itachi with Naruto, he said to watch out for Tsukuyomi explicitly. Literally 99% of all opponents fighting Itachi have no way of stopping Tsukuyomi. You could have the power to split the planet in half and it wouldn't matter. (Want to know why? - Kakashi pretty much state it in the actual anime and manga that Tsukuyomi it's such a dangerous Genjutsu Technique because it happen in a instant, even if you realize that you are trapped in the Tsukuyomi, it will be too late, because Itachi could approach you during that time in the real world (or he can use an Explosive Clone to approach you without you even realizing it in time and he can pretty much finish you before you can even realize, - 72 hours in Tsukuyomi realm means 1 second or a couple of seconds in the real world. Tsukuyomi can't be broken, when used to it's fullest.) The Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror - The Susanoo itself is a near invincible defense but these two weapons take it to the next step. The Sword of Totsuka can seal "anything" if it even touches it. It's completely OP. It's hard to fight a guy that can seal you away if his sword even touches you. The Yata Mirror is even a bigger deal in my opinion. It doesn't block attacks, it's "negates" them. You could throw an Amaterasu covered Bijuu bomb at Itachi and the Yata mirror will negate it, making it so the Susanoo doesn't even need to take a blow. You could punch the Yata mirror and the force will completely be negated. His biggest strength of all: tactical intelligence - Itachi always outsmarts and plans for everything because the plot demands it. You're physically strong? Itachi is already 2 steps ahead of you knowing exactly what to do. You're extremely fast? Again, 2 steps. You're going to try and outlast Itachi in a fight? Good luck. To add to this, some of the 3 most powerful techniques in the verse are due to his intelligence and planning ability; Izanami, Izanagi, and Kotoamatsukami. Izanami - A forbbiden genjutsu technique that allows you to alter someone's destiny. Impossible to break out of even if you know you're in a genjutsu without complying with the users set destiny for you. Even someone like Bee, a perfect Jinchuriki, can't escape Izanami unless he does what Itachi wants him to. Izanagi - You somehow gained an advantage over Itachi? He makes it so that advantage never happened. Kotoamatsukami - Though Shisui's technique, Itachi has his eye which effectively makes it his weapon. A genjutsu so powerful that the person it's cast on doesn't even know they're under a genjutsu. Like the Tsukuyomi, completely OP. To add to all of this, Itachi is pretty good at hand to hand combat, is great with shuriken, is extremely fast, is great with regular fire techniques, is slippery and unpredictable, and has the extremely dangerous and fast Genjutsu style of fighting approach that can caught you off guard almost at any time. With all of these things considered you've got one dangerous ninja. Lastly but not least Kishimoto made sure that Itachi was seen as someone special and he did an incredible job in establishing that in the story. When Itachi Uchiha awakened his Susano'o, he was seen wielding legendary weapons of the Totsuka Blade and the Yata Mirror. The former allowed Itachi to seal anyone he pierced in a world of genjutsu forever, while the latter gave him the ability to deflect any and all attacks thrown towards him, regardless of whether they were physical or spiritual in nature. According to Zetsu (who was around since the period of Kaguya time era until the present of Naruto) he state it in the anime and also in the manga that these weapons, when combined with his Susano'o, made Itachi Invincible. This is why Kishimoto basically had to give him a handicap: Naruto AIDS. 🤷🏻♂️ ☯️
actually didnt credit itachi was the only one that destroyed it he said at 18:16 that itachi contribute on destroying it and again on 38:14 nick said he needed help of naruto and Bee
Which shows that if prepared for the fight, Itachi's superior battle IQ and preparation skills would likely win him the hypothetical fight between him and Pain.
@@thetrue7sparksIn my opinion Itachi is one of the most Unique, Authentic and Influential characters from the series. The thing that people underestimate about Itachi fights/encounters, isn't just his power, (it's mainly writters or Kishimoto's fault for making Itachi seem or to look very powerful throughout the series) but how smart and intelligent he is during various situations, he never, ever underestimates his opponents because of his composure and his way of being, the level of thinking he's on honestly dwars most people in the series, with only people like Minato and Shikaku comparable with him. More precisly, Itachi isn't just any ordinary Shinobi also, he pretty much knows and he's also aware that all strong opponents have weaknesses (including himself), and he specializes in finding those "weaknesses" and exploiting them ("*Even the strongest of opponents always has a weakness*" - Uchiha Itachi) because he's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. Itachi is very unique and authentic, especially in the factor of facing various encounters approach, his unpredictability in his way of fighting style approach it's his key factor in all of his encounters. Being blind or nearly blind has never slowed him down (especially when he's pretty much serious, but that's the point, he has never go all out against anyone during the series.) Itachi it's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. (at least that's what we were shown in the anime by the creator Masashi Kishimoto). Moral of the story, never underestimate Itachi. He did more sick than most healthy ninjas do in their entire life. In my opinion No One should underestimate such an unpredictable Shinobi like Itachi, even Madara (I won't say that Itachi can beat him, but at least he will be pretty much able to put a decent fight that Madara will also be impressed in my opinion). Also how can some of you guys even consider that Totsuka Blade it's slow when no such speed feat has been shown through the Shippuden that state it that it is slow? All of you are assuming it to be slow it may not be the case... Its not that the sword is unavoidable but it clearly has a very long range and is a very long blade. If you look at the manga, Naruto, Bee and Itachi are all relatively small from Nagato's point of view, and you can see the Totsuka Blade extending all the way from Itachi, piercing through Nagato, and still managing to nearly pop out toward the reader out of the page. I would say its fast because Kabuto coudldn't even react to it, and its not like Nagato was completely immobile to the point that he couldn't sidestep the blade. Also, Kabuto controlling people from far away is never stated to inhibit the Edos' reaction speed in any way. Being controlled by someone thousands of miles away didn't stop the Third Raikage from dodging KCM Naruto's Rasenshuriken. And as for Orochimaru, the sword struck him in between syllables of a word during his speech. I think that that is pretty fast. Pair the Totuska Blade with a good feint and its lethal because its ethereal, meaning it can pierce through any object. If the sword didn't live up to its reputation then Orochimaru wouldn't seek it out. People need to stop downplaying Itachi and denying the very clear speed feats of Totsuka. There is no room for interpretations here. The advantage of being an Uchiha, especially for Itachi and Madara, is that during an encounter against them, they always have a counter because of their unpredictable way of fighting factor, they don't run out of options or techniques, they almost always have a counter in their arsenal, even forbidden jutsus seems irrellevant against them, only a few Uchihas know a certain way to approach the situation with a certain and effective technique, that's why is hard/difficult to fight against them in my opinion. ☯️ 🤷🏻♂️ Here are the things that make Itachi so formidable. Tsukuyomi - A genjutsu so powerful that you literally can't escape it unless you have the same blood as Itachi, as stated by Itachi himself and proven later by Sasuke, or you're a jinchuriki. Jinchuriki are supposed to be immune to genjutsu but it hasn't been proven, but when Bee was fighting Edo Nagato and Itachi with Naruto, he said to watch out for Tsukuyomi explicitly. Literally 99% of all opponents fighting Itachi have no way of stopping Tsukuyomi. You could have the power to split the planet in half and it wouldn't matter. (Want to know why? - Kakashi pretty much state it in the actual anime and manga that Tsukuyomi it's such a dangerous Genjutsu Technique because it happen in a instant, even if you realize that you are trapped in the Tsukuyomi, it will be too late, because Itachi could approach you during that time in the real world (or he can use an Explosive Clone to approach you without you even realizing it in time and he can pretty much finish you before you can even realize, - 72 hours in Tsukuyomi realm means 1 second or a couple of seconds in the real world. Tsukuyomi can't be broken, when used to it's fullest.) The Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror - The Susanoo itself is a near invincible defense but these two weapons take it to the next step. The Sword of Totsuka can seal "anything" if it even touches it. It's completely OP. It's hard to fight a guy that can seal you away if his sword even touches you. The Yata Mirror is even a bigger deal in my opinion. It doesn't block attacks, it's "negates" them. You could throw an Amaterasu covered Bijuu bomb at Itachi and the Yata mirror will negate it, making it so the Susanoo doesn't even need to take a blow. You could punch the Yata mirror and the force will completely be negated. His biggest strength of all: tactical intelligence - Itachi always outsmarts and plans for everything because the plot demands it. You're physically strong? Itachi is already 2 steps ahead of you knowing exactly what to do. You're extremely fast? Again, 2 steps. You're going to try and outlast Itachi in a fight? Good luck. To add to this, some of the 3 most powerful techniques in the verse are due to his intelligence and planning ability; Izanami, Izanagi, and Kotoamatsukami. Izanami - A forbbiden genjutsu technique that allows you to alter someone's destiny. Impossible to break out of even if you know you're in a genjutsu without complying with the users set destiny for you. Even someone like Bee, a perfect Jinchuriki, can't escape Izanami unless he does what Itachi wants him to. Izanagi - You somehow gained an advantage over Itachi? He makes it so that advantage never happened. Kotoamatsukami - Though Shisui's technique, Itachi has his eye which effectively makes it his weapon. A genjutsu so powerful that the person it's cast on doesn't even know they're under a genjutsu. Like the Tsukuyomi, completely OP. To add to all of this, Itachi is pretty good at hand to hand combat, is great with shuriken, is extremely fast, is great with regular fire techniques, is slippery and unpredictable, and has the extremely dangerous and fast Genjutsu style of fighting approach that can caught you off guard almost at any time. With all of these things considered you've got one dangerous ninja. Lastly but not least Kishimoto made sure that Itachi was seen as someone special and he did an incredible job in establishing that in the story. When Itachi Uchiha awakened his Susano'o, he was seen wielding legendary weapons of the Totsuka Blade and the Yata Mirror. The former allowed Itachi to seal anyone he pierced in a world of genjutsu forever, while the latter gave him the ability to deflect any and all attacks thrown towards him, regardless of whether they were physical or spiritual in nature. According to Zetsu (who was around since the period of Kaguya time era until the present of Naruto) he state it in the anime and also in the manga that these weapons, when combined with his Susano'o, made Itachi Invincible. This is why Kishimoto basically had to give him a handicap: Naruto AIDS. 🤷🏻♂️ ☯️
Nagato hard counters every single one of itachi’s abilities to a point where itachi has no option but to straight up use taijutsu in which Nagato would just overwhelm him with all the abilities he has access to
he couldnt deal with the totsuka Blade ,he couldnt deal with basic rasengan. Konohamaru outsmarted that fraud.he couldnt deal with basic genjutsu from jiraiya why should we listen to that. fraud
@@ITACHITHEGOAT-gg4ky It depends. the Totsuka blade is chakra right? Almighty push pushes away chakra. The fight with the edos, Naruto and Bee was a team effort and wouldn't have gone down the same way had it been any of the 3 fighting solo. Itachi literally asks for their help to beat Nagato and that's Nagato fully controlled, not one that is in full control of all of his powers with an infinitely replenishing chakra. Rasengan is the same. We literally see the Deva path do it multiple times to resengans way stronger than Komohamarus but don't let actual facts get in your way. If you think frog song is "basic" genjutsu then you've not read the manga. From it's showing, frog song is top 3 genjutsu when it comes to being unable to counter it. The first being IT obviously and the second being Tsykuyomi. Every other genjutsu we see has a counter. The only reason Pain wasn't done in by frog song is the fact Nagato wasn't present. If he was then it would have been game over. Even Koto has a counter. "Basic" genjutsu isn't even what Kurenai used on Itachi, that's advanced. Basic Genjutsu is what Kakashi was using on Zabuza and even that wouldn't be able to be countered by anyone weaker.
@@teeboz6237 Don’t think of the Totsuka Blade as being made of chakra. It’s not well explained AT ALL but think of it as an Ethereal Weapon and more importantly. As a Sword that doesn’t abide by the normal power system of Naruto. So no, Nagato can’t deal with the Totsuka Blade or the Yata Mirror for that matter. I don’t know what that Itachi Glazer is on about, Nagato can ABSOLUTELY handle Rasengans. All in all between Edo Nagato (Post-Chakra Absorption) vs Edo Itachi. I’m giving it to Edo Itachi IF AND ONLY IF his Ethereal Weapons function as they should. Meaning that the Yata Mirror which can reflect anything, can withstand all Deva Path attacks and isn’t affected by the Preta Path. Also meaning that the Totsuka Blade isn’t affected by the Preta Path. If that’s not the case. Then Edo Itachi loses badly.
@@mekb2325there is nothing that suggests Itachi cannot be pulled out of Susanoo with Almighty Pull, in a similar manner to Edo Madara being pulled out of Susanoo with Gaara’s Sand that had been “lightened” significantly, basically made air, which functionally is an Almighty Pull
I kinda wanted to see more of the Akatsuki just as an organization. Like what is the work relationship between those guys. Do they make awkward small talk too??
Nagato and Obito's six paths are interesting because Nagato created them out of need while Obito studied what Nagato did and elevated it. Nagato's 6 paths used the abilities of the rinnegan and were extensions of him, while Obito's had a rinnegan and a sharingan but didn't use either abilities and instead used their own. Which is actually very similar to how the Shinju work who also have rinnegan but can't (so far, excluding Jura) use rinnegan abilities but do have the abilities of the person they bit. They don't even seem to have the shared vision.
Why wouldnt Itachi be able to seal the gedo statue? And as far as absorbing itahcis susanoo weapons... If Nagato could, why didnt he do it when he got hit by the totsuka? He cant absorb them, maybe the susanoo itself, but Itachi can form it again later.
It’s also super important to note that nagato in that fight was not in control of himself for half of it, namely the part where he actually fights itachi, that means that a guy that didn’t know his abilities as well as nagato was controlling his body from somewhere not on the battle field effectively nerfing his battle prowess.
you man AFTER Itachi got caught and would have been sealed without Bee and Naruto saving him? cause it took all 3 of them using attacks to break the seal and Itachi's attack was BY FAR the weakest of the 3 attacks.
@@cameronmynhier2628 that's the point Itachi has almost no counter for most of rinnegan jutsu .... If nagato use planetary devastation he is done ....if nagato pulls Itachi's soul out he is done ..... Itachi isn't beating nagato
I always find it weird when Itachi fans claim that Itachi beats prime Nagato. Nagato literally overpower three of the strongest characters in the series at once, including the two stronger tailed beast hosts, and he only lost because he explained to them how to fight him and finally was caught off guard. Even Kabuto called Nagato his strongest reanimation, not Itachi. I think that Itachi can win in a fight with Nagato, but it certainly wouldn’t be the result of being the stronger of the two, it could only happen with very careful planning and incredibly quick strategizing.
I’m very surprised he never mentioned the other Uchiha abilities. Specifically Izanagi. There’s the short period of which Itachi can counter attack with Totsuka after Chibaku Tensei. Not saying Itachi wins always but that trump card that Obito basically used against Conan is hard to predict against. Nagato uses chibaku drops his guard then Itachi shows up with Totsuka to seal him.
Izanagi & Izanami are some of the worst things Kishimoto created. Izanagi's effect is only limited by the amount of chakra a person can feed into it. Without Hashirama cells or being an Indra reincarnate, it is just a few seconds. I should point out. Izanagi has been shown to only affect the user. Only in anime only scenes have we seen Izanagi's influence extended beyond the user. In the manga it is only shown to change the fate of the user. It is a severely watered down Creation of all Things. Nagato can just Almighty Push the sword away. The Rinnegan has sensory perception like the Sharingan. It is an upgraded Sharingan after all. We seen the paths be able to see through smokescreens and dust as well as keep up with some of the fastest in the verse at that time.
@ firstly, it only needs to work for a second while he’s being sealed by Chibaku. Nagato cannot use Almighty push directly after using Chibaku, leaving himself open. If his visual prowess was good enough to overcome Itachi’s stealth, then his other Paths would not have been obstructed with simple kunai Itachi used to blind him. The path to victory exists and has been proven time again on the anime.
Lots of people seems to forget that zetsu who seen the whole history of the shinobi world unfold once said that his Susanoo made Itachi the strongest man in the world during Sasuke and Itachi fight.
Nagato is a beast. But what if itachi never got sick and actually progressed fully into I'd imagine something weve never seen. Take away his Chakra sickness and he obtained a ems there may be no stopping him
they are supposed to be naruto and sasuke if they were born earlier , the show shows many comparisons like nagato supposed to be the child of prophecy and itachi becoming a threat
Nagato dogwalks Itachi. A Nagato on Autopilot came very close to soloing KCM Naruto, Bee, AND Itachi. Like, there is no debate on this. It literally took the help of the two strongest tailed beasts for Itachi to have a chance. I'm convinced most fans of Naruto don't actually pay attention.
This video stays on topic in an intellectual and complex way that doesn’t insult/rug-pull the audience or even insult those same. The concrete info here should dash any opinions of would be experts.
@@bloster_antIn my opinion Itachi is one of the most Unique, Authentic and Influential characters from the series. The thing that people underestimate about Itachi fights/encounters, isn't just his power, (it's mainly writters or Kishimoto's fault for making Itachi seem or to look very powerful throughout the series) but how smart and intelligent he is during various situations, he never, ever underestimates his opponents because of his composure and his way of being, the level of thinking he's on honestly dwars most people in the series, with only people like Minato and Shikaku comparable with him. More precisly, Itachi isn't just any ordinary Shinobi also, he pretty much knows and he's also aware that all strong opponents have weaknesses (including himself), and he specializes in finding those "weaknesses" and exploiting them ("*Even the strongest of opponents always has a weakness*" - Uchiha Itachi) because he's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. Itachi is very unique and authentic, especially in the factor of facing various encounters approach, his unpredictability in his way of fighting style approach it's his key factor in all of his encounters. Being blind or nearly blind has never slowed him down (especially when he's pretty much serious, but that's the point, he has never go all out against anyone during the series.) Itachi it's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. (at least that's what we were shown in the anime by the creator Masashi Kishimoto). Moral of the story, never underestimate Itachi. He did more sick than most healthy ninjas do in their entire life. In my opinion No One should underestimate such an unpredictable Shinobi like Itachi, even Madara (I won't say that Itachi can beat him, but at least he will be pretty much able to put a decent fight that Madara will also be impressed in my opinion). Also how can some of you guys even consider that Totsuka Blade it's slow when no such speed feat has been shown through the Shippuden that state it that it is slow? All of you are assuming it to be slow it may not be the case... Its not that the sword is unavoidable but it clearly has a very long range and is a very long blade. If you look at the manga, Naruto, Bee and Itachi are all relatively small from Nagato's point of view, and you can see the Totsuka Blade extending all the way from Itachi, piercing through Nagato, and still managing to nearly pop out toward the reader out of the page. I would say its fast because Kabuto coudldn't even react to it, and its not like Nagato was completely immobile to the point that he couldn't sidestep the blade. Also, Kabuto controlling people from far away is never stated to inhibit the Edos' reaction speed in any way. Being controlled by someone thousands of miles away didn't stop the Third Raikage from dodging KCM Naruto's Rasenshuriken. And as for Orochimaru, the sword struck him in between syllables of a word during his speech. I think that that is pretty fast. Pair the Totuska Blade with a good feint and its lethal because its ethereal, meaning it can pierce through any object. If the sword didn't live up to its reputation then Orochimaru wouldn't seek it out. People need to stop downplaying Itachi and denying the very clear speed feats of Totsuka. There is no room for interpretations here. The advantage of being an Uchiha, especially for Itachi and Madara, is that during an encounter against them, they always have a counter because of their unpredictable way of fighting factor, they don't run out of options or techniques, they almost always have a counter in their arsenal, even forbidden jutsus seems irrellevant against them, only a few Uchihas know a certain way to approach the situation with a certain and effective technique, that's why is hard/difficult to fight against them in my opinion. ☯️ 🤷🏻♂️ Here are the things that make Itachi so formidable. Tsukuyomi - A genjutsu so powerful that you literally can't escape it unless you have the same blood as Itachi, as stated by Itachi himself and proven later by Sasuke, or you're a jinchuriki. Jinchuriki are supposed to be immune to genjutsu but it hasn't been proven, but when Bee was fighting Edo Nagato and Itachi with Naruto, he said to watch out for Tsukuyomi explicitly. Literally 99% of all opponents fighting Itachi have no way of stopping Tsukuyomi. You could have the power to split the planet in half and it wouldn't matter. (Want to know why? - Kakashi pretty much state it in the actual anime and manga that Tsukuyomi it's such a dangerous Genjutsu Technique because it happen in a instant, even if you realize that you are trapped in the Tsukuyomi, it will be too late, because Itachi could approach you during that time in the real world (or he can use an Explosive Clone to approach you without you even realizing it in time and he can pretty much finish you before you can even realize, - 72 hours in Tsukuyomi realm means 1 second or a couple of seconds in the real world. Tsukuyomi can't be broken, when used to it's fullest.) The Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror - The Susanoo itself is a near invincible defense but these two weapons take it to the next step. The Sword of Totsuka can seal "anything" if it even touches it. It's completely OP. It's hard to fight a guy that can seal you away if his sword even touches you. The Yata Mirror is even a bigger deal in my opinion. It doesn't block attacks, it's "negates" them. You could throw an Amaterasu covered Bijuu bomb at Itachi and the Yata mirror will negate it, making it so the Susanoo doesn't even need to take a blow. You could punch the Yata mirror and the force will completely be negated. His biggest strength of all: tactical intelligence - Itachi always outsmarts and plans for everything because the plot demands it. You're physically strong? Itachi is already 2 steps ahead of you knowing exactly what to do. You're extremely fast? Again, 2 steps. You're going to try and outlast Itachi in a fight? Good luck. To add to this, some of the 3 most powerful techniques in the verse are due to his intelligence and planning ability; Izanami, Izanagi, and Kotoamatsukami. Izanami - A forbbiden genjutsu technique that allows you to alter someone's destiny. Impossible to break out of even if you know you're in a genjutsu without complying with the users set destiny for you. Even someone like Bee, a perfect Jinchuriki, can't escape Izanami unless he does what Itachi wants him to. Izanagi - You somehow gained an advantage over Itachi? He makes it so that advantage never happened. Kotoamatsukami - Though Shisui's technique, Itachi has his eye which effectively makes it his weapon. A genjutsu so powerful that the person it's cast on doesn't even know they're under a genjutsu. Like the Tsukuyomi, completely OP. To add to all of this, Itachi is pretty good at hand to hand combat, is great with shuriken, is extremely fast, is great with regular fire techniques, is slippery and unpredictable, and has the extremely dangerous and fast Genjutsu style of fighting approach that can caught you off guard almost at any time. With all of these things considered you've got one dangerous ninja. Lastly but not least Kishimoto made sure that Itachi was seen as someone special and he did an incredible job in establishing that in the story. When Itachi Uchiha awakened his Susano'o, he was seen wielding legendary weapons of the Totsuka Blade and the Yata Mirror. The former allowed Itachi to seal anyone he pierced in a world of genjutsu forever, while the latter gave him the ability to deflect any and all attacks thrown towards him, regardless of whether they were physical or spiritual in nature. According to Zetsu (who was around since the period of Kaguya time era until the present of Naruto) he state it in the anime and also in the manga that these weapons, when combined with his Susano'o, made Itachi Invincible. This is why Kishimoto basically had to give him a handicap: Naruto AIDS. 🤷🏻♂️ ☯️
@@JFRESH-pz2nfIn my opinion Itachi is one of the most Unique, Authentic and Influential characters from the series. The thing that people underestimate about Itachi fights/encounters, isn't just his power, (it's mainly writters or Kishimoto's fault for making Itachi seem or to look very powerful throughout the series) but how smart and intelligent he is during various situations, he never, ever underestimates his opponents because of his composure and his way of being, the level of thinking he's on honestly dwars most people in the series, with only people like Minato and Shikaku comparable with him. More precisly, Itachi isn't just any ordinary Shinobi also, he pretty much knows and he's also aware that all strong opponents have weaknesses (including himself), and he specializes in finding those "weaknesses" and exploiting them ("*Even the strongest of opponents always has a weakness*" - Uchiha Itachi) because he's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. Itachi is very unique and authentic, especially in the factor of facing various encounters approach, his unpredictability in his way of fighting style approach it's his key factor in all of his encounters. Being blind or nearly blind has never slowed him down (especially when he's pretty much serious, but that's the point, he has never go all out against anyone during the series.) Itachi it's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. (at least that's what we were shown in the anime by the creator Masashi Kishimoto). Moral of the story, never underestimate Itachi. He did more sick than most healthy ninjas do in their entire life. In my opinion No One should underestimate such an unpredictable Shinobi like Itachi, even Madara (I won't say that Itachi can beat him, but at least he will be pretty much able to put a decent fight that Madara will also be impressed in my opinion). Also how can some of you guys even consider that Totsuka Blade it's slow when no such speed feat has been shown through the Shippuden that state it that it is slow? All of you are assuming it to be slow it may not be the case... Its not that the sword is unavoidable but it clearly has a very long range and is a very long blade. If you look at the manga, Naruto, Bee and Itachi are all relatively small from Nagato's point of view, and you can see the Totsuka Blade extending all the way from Itachi, piercing through Nagato, and still managing to nearly pop out toward the reader out of the page. I would say its fast because Kabuto coudldn't even react to it, and its not like Nagato was completely immobile to the point that he couldn't sidestep the blade. Also, Kabuto controlling people from far away is never stated to inhibit the Edos' reaction speed in any way. Being controlled by someone thousands of miles away didn't stop the Third Raikage from dodging KCM Naruto's Rasenshuriken. And as for Orochimaru, the sword struck him in between syllables of a word during his speech. I think that that is pretty fast. Pair the Totuska Blade with a good feint and its lethal because its ethereal, meaning it can pierce through any object. If the sword didn't live up to its reputation then Orochimaru wouldn't seek it out. People need to stop downplaying Itachi and denying the very clear speed feats of Totsuka. There is no room for interpretations here. The advantage of being an Uchiha, especially for Itachi and Madara, is that during an encounter against them, they always have a counter because of their unpredictable way of fighting factor, they don't run out of options or techniques, they almost always have a counter in their arsenal, even forbidden jutsus seems irrellevant against them, only a few Uchihas know a certain way to approach the situation with a certain and effective technique, that's why is hard/difficult to fight against them in my opinion. ☯️ 🤷🏻♂️ Here are the things that make Itachi so formidable. Tsukuyomi - A genjutsu so powerful that you literally can't escape it unless you have the same blood as Itachi, as stated by Itachi himself and proven later by Sasuke, or you're a jinchuriki. Jinchuriki are supposed to be immune to genjutsu but it hasn't been proven, but when Bee was fighting Edo Nagato and Itachi with Naruto, he said to watch out for Tsukuyomi explicitly. Literally 99% of all opponents fighting Itachi have no way of stopping Tsukuyomi. You could have the power to split the planet in half and it wouldn't matter. (Want to know why? - Kakashi pretty much state it in the actual anime and manga that Tsukuyomi it's such a dangerous Genjutsu Technique because it happen in a instant, even if you realize that you are trapped in the Tsukuyomi, it will be too late, because Itachi could approach you during that time in the real world (or he can use an Explosive Clone to approach you without you even realizing it in time and he can pretty much finish you before you can even realize, - 72 hours in Tsukuyomi realm means 1 second or a couple of seconds in the real world. Tsukuyomi can't be broken, when used to it's fullest.) The Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror - The Susanoo itself is a near invincible defense but these two weapons take it to the next step. The Sword of Totsuka can seal "anything" if it even touches it. It's completely OP. It's hard to fight a guy that can seal you away if his sword even touches you. The Yata Mirror is even a bigger deal in my opinion. It doesn't block attacks, it's "negates" them. You could throw an Amaterasu covered Bijuu bomb at Itachi and the Yata mirror will negate it, making it so the Susanoo doesn't even need to take a blow. You could punch the Yata mirror and the force will completely be negated. His biggest strength of all: tactical intelligence - Itachi always outsmarts and plans for everything because the plot demands it. You're physically strong? Itachi is already 2 steps ahead of you knowing exactly what to do. You're extremely fast? Again, 2 steps. You're going to try and outlast Itachi in a fight? Good luck. To add to this, some of the 3 most powerful techniques in the verse are due to his intelligence and planning ability; Izanami, Izanagi, and Kotoamatsukami. Izanami - A forbbiden genjutsu technique that allows you to alter someone's destiny. Impossible to break out of even if you know you're in a genjutsu without complying with the users set destiny for you. Even someone like Bee, a perfect Jinchuriki, can't escape Izanami unless he does what Itachi wants him to. Izanagi - You somehow gained an advantage over Itachi? He makes it so that advantage never happened. Kotoamatsukami - Though Shisui's technique, Itachi has his eye which effectively makes it his weapon. A genjutsu so powerful that the person it's cast on doesn't even know they're under a genjutsu. Like the Tsukuyomi, completely OP. To add to all of this, Itachi is pretty good at hand to hand combat, is great with shuriken, is extremely fast, is great with regular fire techniques, is slippery and unpredictable, and has the extremely dangerous and fast Genjutsu style of fighting approach that can caught you off guard almost at any time. With all of these things considered you've got one dangerous ninja. Lastly but not least Kishimoto made sure that Itachi was seen as someone special and he did an incredible job in establishing that in the story. When Itachi Uchiha awakened his Susano'o, he was seen wielding legendary weapons of the Totsuka Blade and the Yata Mirror. The former allowed Itachi to seal anyone he pierced in a world of genjutsu forever, while the latter gave him the ability to deflect any and all attacks thrown towards him, regardless of whether they were physical or spiritual in nature. According to Zetsu (who was around since the period of Kaguya time era until the present of Naruto) he state it in the anime and also in the manga that these weapons, when combined with his Susano'o, made Itachi Invincible. This is why Kishimoto basically had to give him a handicap: Naruto AIDS. 🤷🏻♂️ ☯️
Hmm we know that main occular jutsu have resistance to genjutsu, however, his paths of pain were apparently affected by genjutsu, along with the summonings. Even if it's not an instant win, I would think his sharingan genjutsu would still work. It would also make the full power fight between the 2 closer(besides chibaku tensei scenario) still give full power fight 6 out of 10 wins to nagato
There are a few points I find doubtful. 1. The strongest form of Nagato was the one before using the Statue the first time (no edo tense nerf, no burned legs, no rods yet). 2. Nagato didn’t “use” anything because every move he made was controlled by Kabuto. So the Amaterasu hitting the first time and the entire fight didn’t include any of the Nagato battle IQ. Even weakened edo Nagato could have started the fight with a Chibaku tensei as his limitation was physical only. 3. Genjutsu immunity is a bit of a stretch, considering 3 paths of pain were killed using a genjutsu by Jiraya. 4. Naruto said Nagato is a lot stronger when the latter was still in his weakened state not after. All in all, I love Itachi as a character but I don’t see him winning under any reasonable conditions.
39:53 And thing is, Nick, if you want to go with the "Totsuka Blade is a chakra construct" point, that means you can make a legitimate argument that *even in his paraplegic state* Edo Nagato still wins. Simply because now Itachi has zero win condition because his one surefire sealing technique is off the table - if Edo Nagato while emaciated and being burned by/patching himself up from Amaterasu is still able to perform a Shinra Tensei to push the flames off of him, there's no real reason why he could not also perform the chakra absorption of the Preta Path even while suffering from Amaterasu. And absorbing the chakra from a chakra construct and its arsenal like the Susanoo could be enough to help restore Nagato at least closer to his red-haired prime, with even an incomplete one like Itachi being at least relative to a 4-6 tail jin cloak in the same way that a complete one like Sasuke's is comparable to Naruto's Kurama avatar.
10:40 I don’t think that’s the best argument. Blunders are inevitable due to unpredictability. It’s like saying the loser lost because they didn’t fight a perfect battle. Neither fight “blunderless” battles.
The only thing in the video I may argue is the fact that we have to remember that Kabuto was somewhat controlling them. At least, to some extent at this point. You yourself said that Nagato was giving them tips on how to beat him. So even after Nagato learns that Itachi broke out of reanimation, he probably didn’t WANT to dodge Amaterasu. He probably wanted to die from it. Until Kabuto gained full control of Nagato and forced the flames off.
This video was JUST uploaded like 5 minutes ago and I'm seeing comments already. How are there 72 likes already and comments when Nick hasn't even finished talking yet??? The video is like 40 minutes long!
I don’t even know if we seen everything Itachi can do. Every fight he pulls out some deus ex machina jutsu that’s perfect for the situation being a genius and all. Our analysis does not out wit his writing.
39:44 i always thought that if naruto and killer be were removed from the fight, the fight would play out relatively the same when it comes to shibaku tensai, what i mean is that, i really dont think that a single yasaka bead is all that itachi can make at once, im sure he could make 3 or even pop out 2 water clones to make the extra 2 and it would have the same effect as the 2 tailed beast bombs and yasaka bead.
A little of topic but you said that the Rinnegan gives someone the ability to use those black chakrarots, so how is Obito in the fight with Konan able to use them? Is it another plot hole or Armor? Or is there a good explanation?
So I have a thought/question. If prime nagato uses chibuka and itachi sees/knows it's threat level couldn't help in theory use his susano to grab nagato and pull with? Thus forcing a draw or making him stop the jutsu?
Very depressed, kinda cry for the monk. Bro you need to do the new episodes on your channel too. Like a in depth explanation about the character or episode or ego or differences between the Manga and anime. Idk if you want
Amazing video i like thepoints from both sides i wish your went into depth more on the izanami for itachi, but i understand that it wouldnt work because at this point nagato was no longer lost and had returned to his originally good state. Id like to ad that itachi has koto as well and he could have used koto as a diversion of some sort tho i beleive the rinnegan breaks koto fairly easily considering it can block INFINITE TSUKYNOMI. ID ALSO LIKE TO ADD, its not that nagato couldnt dodge amaterasu. Its the fact he was not controlling himself. It was kabuto who had no ideah how to use nagato. I think the outcomes are the same as you beleive but i truly think nagato not being controlled is an entirely different fight. Whos to say he cant add all his moves with the chubaku tensei. For instance when he did planetary against naruto. He was able to use another universal pull to capture 6 tails naruto. And toss him into the chibaķu tensei. He had the other hand blocking beast bombs from the 6 tails. So i think the moment nagato throws out chibaku tensei no matter what form hes in. The fights over. For anyone who dont get it. ALL FORMS OF NAGATO CAN USE CHIBAKU TENSEI WHILE SUMMONING , WHILE ADDING ALL MIGHTY PUSH OR PULL TO IT. WHILE EVEN DOING AN ENTIRE BEAM OF CHAKRA AS WE HAVE SEEN ON STORM HE CAN DESTROY HIS OWN PLANETARY DEVASTATION. HE CAN ALSO SPEED UP THE RATE IN WICH THE PLANETARY CORE PULLS. AND THATS WITHOUT HIM GETTING ANGRY AND SUMMONING THE GEDO. ITS ABSOLUTELY A NO CONTEST
Question cant itachi control the summoned beast with his sharigan like sasuke did control Manda during the fight with deidara. Meaning if pain summmons beast itachi just puts them in a gengutsu and make the beast fight for him
@NCHammer 23 also want to point out that you failed to mention even though nagato had regained his stronger state his mobility was not as good explained by Kabuto. Likely due to Hanzo heavily damaging his legs or living life in that machine. So Itachi would have the speed advantage
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A battle against nagato isn’t just a battle against nagato, it’s a STRUGGLE FOR YOUR LIFE
Nagato destroys itachi. This is a man that ran a gauntlet on the entire leaf village. He's basically a war arc boss but in an arc prior
alive sure, not edo. I mean unless you disregard author intent. lol
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Are we forgetting the fight where they literally fought each other and Itachi came out on top 4/5 of the five clashes? Nagato only ever wins because of his hacks. Itachi is a better hand to hand fighter, smarter, faster , and had much more in his arsenal in terms of win conditions then nagato. The author lost showed us Itachi fighting nagato more then evenly
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14:21 "Orochimaru, without the usage of his arms"
_Shows photo of Orochimaru clearly using his arm_
Technically, his arms are still sealed in the shinigami but he still able to throw them hands apparently
@@Nobody-bp5wh hiruzen died for nothing 😂
He got his arms sealed which mainly caused him intense pain and not being able to use chakra with his hands but cause he kept swapping bodies more often then the 3 years the bodies normally would’ve lasted due to his arms practically dying. But when he did swap he was able to sort of use his arms just not to mold chakra for jutsus
True^^ The arms Hiruzen took was basically the arms of Oro.’s soul. So after that, he’d have to transfer bodies more frequently to use his arms, but couldn’t do Justus. Even that didn’t completely stop him cause he could easily fight using seals and summonings, which he was capable of doing without even weaving hand signs.
He meant no arms, as in no ability to use hand signs and Ninjutsu, he could use Taijutsu however.
Danzō messed up both Nagato and Itachi.
- Danzō snitched to Hanzo about Yahiko's Akatsuki and had Yahiko die.
- Danzō stole Shisui's eye and gave Itachi an ultimatum for the Uchiha.
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Soo what they both still committed atrocious acts just because you were screwed over by somebody doesn't mean you should do evil things of you want us to forgive them then let's us forgive obito
What's funny is Nagato waited until Itachi died just to destroy the Leaf Village.
Yeah because he was dying anyway why attack when you can wait for him to die? Use your head
The man is smart and knew how much Itachi would have destroyed him
@@redskinsftw why be like that? Like, we get it dude, you’re unhappy. Don’t take that shit out on other people.
@@Mastershake0592 are you that soft lol I literally gave a response
@@rondareongaming9161 itachi strong but he not destroying nagato those are free ones for nagato we all seen what happened to the strongest version of itachi when they fought
Finally!!! Someone who sees the true winner!!! You got my like👍🏻Nagato the GOAT
One really big issue that people forget about Edo Nagato, is he was still being controlled by Kabuto, someone who was shown several times not knowing all the ins and outs of each character he revived and their respective abilities. With Nagato he just spammed abilities without much thought and didn't even use his sensory ability (Which would pretty much make Nagato impossible to sneak up on along with the shared vision of the rinnegan)
@@sixpathshashira he absolutely did use the sensory abilities. It just that Itachi was there and aware of those abilities so he went for the eyes with shurikens imbued with phoenix firestyle. I still agree that it would’ve been difficult if it was Nagato who was in control
@ When did Kabuto use Nagato's sensory abilities? Nagato only used them himself when he still had white hair, but after Kabuto took full control it didn't show him using them. I feel like Nagato would've been able to sense Itachi's full susanoo hiding behind smoke given he sensed amateratsu before it even activated. Itachi went for the eyes yes, which stopped shared vision from working but Nagato himself is a sensory type shinobi
@ I just went back to watch the fight to see if I was chatting shit. He 100% uses the sensory abilities. It was when he was pulling Naruto’s soul out so bee had to intervene, but the summon thing that sucks souls and the frog summon both saw him before nagato did
@ not only that but Itachi timed his attack at the perfect moment. The 2 summons that had noticed bee were then sent to deal with bee, so pain was on Naruto, and the summons were in bee, so there was a moment where Itachi could dash in without being seen. Rinnegan sensory abilities r kinda mid compared to Sage mode sensory abilities
@ I think we're talking about two different things though. You're talking about the rinnegan's shared vision, which like you explained is how the frog and king of hell (thing that sucks souls) saw Bee allowing Nagato/Kabuto to react to him. What I'm talking about is the sensory ability of Nagato alone, separate from the rinnegan. It's how he managed to detect where Kabuto was hiding (which is how Itachi knew where to find him later on), and sense Itachi using Amateratsu. Think of characters like Karin, Minato, or Tobirama... they all have insane sensory abilities just because they are sensory type shinobi. Other examples are Mu and Ino
Honestly, the only reason people underestimate Nagato against people like Itachi, Obito or Madara is because Nagato got so little screen time, while thw rest were actually used well by Kishi, that it's too hard to remember the tiny bits which tell us how strong Nagato was
39:35 Thank you. Being fighting Itachi fans on the internet since a decade, It's nice to see Itachi fans dream falling day by day.
I'm Itachi fan and I do not scale him above Nagato. Not all fans are blind
Lol I'm not an Itachi fan but I do think if he used izanagi into totska blade I feel like this would genuinely catch him by surprise I'm a die hard nagato fan he is the best villain by and the best arc but this show is about being a ninja and deception which I definitely think Itachi has Iq wise where as nagato is just insanely strong with huge chakra pull
go watch one piece don’t spend time on powerscaling debates
Pretty sure itachi has the Iq to beat Nagato.
Nagato is stupidly broken though lmao
Go outside kid
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They both got more screentime than Tenten.
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Tsunade's pet pig got more screen time than Tenten
Jiraya's nudey mag got more screen time than Tenten 😂
I mean they are more important to the story than tenten
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At 33:33 nick you are wrong there cuz itachi knew about edo tensei even Nagato as deidara and satori went to fight and itachi even told them how to stop it by restricting its movement
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“The longer you live, the more you realize that the only things that truly exist in this reality are merely pain, suffering and futility”
One mistake i noticed in the vid. The reason White hair Nagato did not react to amaterasu was actually because Itachi only reprogrammed himself with the crow. Nagato was not programmed to fight other Edo Tensei, thus did not fight back Itachi at all in that stage. As we for example see Nagato warn Bee and Naruto when Itachi was charging his MS way ahead of anything before.
He himself if having the choice there would not want to fight back anyway, but defenately could have absorbed Amaterasu like any other ninjutsu. He did not have to physicly move to dodge when he can simply activate a preta path shield even without any physical motion as we saw in the fight after.
It was why Kabuto was forced to intervene in the first place.
Imagine an AU where Pain finds out that Itachi was a Leaf spy and decides to deal with Itachi, himself.
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Itachi: *Amatersau!*
Nagato: *absorbs Amaterasu*
Also Nagato: Keep it coming.
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Itachi isn't dumb enough to do this though, it's literally not at all how he fights, he uses low chakra-cost jutsus like basic Genjutsu, Fire Style, and Shurikenjutsu to solve an opponent's techniques before he decides which one of his like 6 one shot hax abilities will win the fight. You're thinking of Sasuke, fool.
This is wrong. Nagato won't absorb amaturatsu. He didn't do it until kabuto made him absorb it
@@Borchert97 true that's actually not a bad strategy
Itachi fans takes debates too seriously. They have fragile ego. They cannot acknowledge how much of a beast Nagato is. They just can't conceive their fav character is beaten by someone of the same tier of level, they won't have trouble accepting Itachi being weaker than Hashirama or Sasuke bcs It's an obvious thing, but when It's Nagato or Obito who are closer to him It hurts them personally.
In my opinion Itachi is one of the most Unique, Authentic and Influential characters from the series. The thing that people underestimate about Itachi fights/encounters, isn't just his power, (it's mainly writters or Kishimoto's fault for making Itachi seem or to look very powerful throughout the series) but how smart and intelligent he is during various situations, he never, ever underestimates his opponents because of his composure and his way of being, the level of thinking he's on honestly dwars most people in the series, with only people like Minato and Shikaku comparable with him. More precisly, Itachi isn't just any ordinary Shinobi also, he pretty much knows and he's also aware that all strong opponents have weaknesses (including himself), and he specializes in finding those "weaknesses" and exploiting them ("*Even the strongest of opponents always has a weakness*" - Uchiha Itachi) because he's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. Itachi is very unique and authentic, especially in the factor of facing various encounters approach, his unpredictability in his way of fighting style approach it's his key factor in all of his encounters. Being blind or nearly blind has never slowed him down (especially when he's pretty much serious, but that's the point, he has never go all out against anyone during the series.) Itachi it's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. (at least that's what we were shown in the anime by the creator Masashi Kishimoto). Moral of the story, never underestimate Itachi. He did more sick than most healthy ninjas do in their entire life. In my opinion No One should underestimate such an unpredictable Shinobi like Itachi, even Madara (I won't say that Itachi can beat him, but at least he will be pretty much able to put a decent fight that Madara will also be impressed in my opinion). Also how can some of you guys even consider that Totsuka Blade it's slow when no such speed feat has been shown through the Shippuden that state it that it is slow? All of you are assuming it to be slow it may not be the case... Its not that the sword is unavoidable but it clearly has a very long range and is a very long blade. If you look at the manga, Naruto, Bee and Itachi are all relatively small from Nagato's point of view, and you can see the Totsuka Blade extending all the way from Itachi, piercing through Nagato, and still managing to nearly pop out toward the reader out of the page. I would say its fast because Kabuto coudldn't even react to it, and its not like Nagato was completely immobile to the point that he couldn't sidestep the blade. Also, Kabuto controlling people from far away is never stated to inhibit the Edos' reaction speed in any way. Being controlled by someone thousands of miles away didn't stop the Third Raikage from dodging KCM Naruto's Rasenshuriken. And as for Orochimaru, the sword struck him in between syllables of a word during his speech. I think that that is pretty fast. Pair the Totuska Blade with a good feint and its lethal because its ethereal, meaning it can pierce through any object. If the sword didn't live up to its reputation then Orochimaru wouldn't seek it out. People need to stop downplaying Itachi and denying the very clear speed feats of Totsuka. There is no room for interpretations here. The advantage of being an Uchiha, especially for Itachi and Madara, is that during an encounter against them, they always have a counter because of their unpredictable way of fighting factor, they don't run out of options or techniques, they almost always have a counter in their arsenal, even forbidden jutsus seems irrellevant against them, only a few Uchihas know a certain way to approach the situation with a certain and effective technique, that's why is hard/difficult to fight against them in my opinion. ☯️ 🤷🏻♂️ Here are the things that make Itachi so formidable. Tsukuyomi - A genjutsu so powerful that you literally can't escape it unless you have the same blood as Itachi, as stated by Itachi himself and proven later by Sasuke, or you're a jinchuriki. Jinchuriki are supposed to be immune to genjutsu but it hasn't been proven, but when Bee was fighting Edo Nagato and Itachi with Naruto, he said to watch out for Tsukuyomi explicitly. Literally 99% of all opponents fighting Itachi have no way of stopping Tsukuyomi. You could have the power to split the planet in half and it wouldn't matter. (Want to know why? - Kakashi pretty much state it in the actual anime and manga that Tsukuyomi it's such a dangerous Genjutsu Technique because it happen in a instant, even if you realize that you are trapped in the Tsukuyomi, it will be too late, because Itachi could approach you during that time in the real world (or he can use an Explosive Clone to approach you without you even realizing it in time and he can pretty much finish you before you can even realize, - 72 hours in Tsukuyomi realm means 1 second or a couple of seconds in the real world. Tsukuyomi can't be broken, when used to it's fullest.) The Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror - The Susanoo itself is a near invincible defense but these two weapons take it to the next step. The Sword of Totsuka can seal "anything" if it even touches it. It's completely OP. It's hard to fight a guy that can seal you away if his sword even touches you. The Yata Mirror is even a bigger deal in my opinion. It doesn't block attacks, it's "negates" them. You could throw an Amaterasu covered Bijuu bomb at Itachi and the Yata mirror will negate it, making it so the Susanoo doesn't even need to take a blow. You could punch the Yata mirror and the force will completely be negated. His biggest strength of all: tactical intelligence - Itachi always outsmarts and plans for everything because the plot demands it. You're physically strong? Itachi is already 2 steps ahead of you knowing exactly what to do. You're extremely fast? Again, 2 steps. You're going to try and outlast Itachi in a fight? Good luck. To add to this, some of the 3 most powerful techniques in the verse are due to his intelligence and planning ability; Izanami, Izanagi, and Kotoamatsukami. Izanami - A forbbiden genjutsu technique that allows you to alter someone's destiny. Impossible to break out of even if you know you're in a genjutsu without complying with the users set destiny for you. Even someone like Bee, a perfect Jinchuriki, can't escape Izanami unless he does what Itachi wants him to. Izanagi - You somehow gained an advantage over Itachi? He makes it so that advantage never happened. Kotoamatsukami - Though Shisui's technique, Itachi has his eye which effectively makes it his weapon. A genjutsu so powerful that the person it's cast on doesn't even know they're under a genjutsu. Like the Tsukuyomi, completely OP. To add to all of this, Itachi is pretty good at hand to hand combat, is great with shuriken, is extremely fast, is great with regular fire techniques, is slippery and unpredictable, and has the extremely dangerous and fast Genjutsu style of fighting approach that can caught you off guard almost at any time. With all of these things considered you've got one dangerous ninja. Lastly but not least Kishimoto made sure that Itachi was seen as someone special and he did an incredible job in establishing that in the story. When Itachi Uchiha awakened his Susano'o, he was seen wielding legendary weapons of the Totsuka Blade and the Yata Mirror. The former allowed Itachi to seal anyone he pierced in a world of genjutsu forever, while the latter gave him the ability to deflect any and all attacks thrown towards him, regardless of whether they were physical or spiritual in nature. According to Zetsu (who was around since the period of Kaguya time era until the present of Naruto) he state it in the anime and also in the manga that these weapons, when combined with his Susano'o, made Itachi Invincible. This is why Kishimoto basically had to give him a handicap: Naruto AIDS. 🤷🏻♂️ ☯️
@@DavidLucian Jesus Christ... Get some help
Lmaoooo
@@up1405 what if he commits suicide cause of this 👀
@up1405 If you say so, Mister Kishimoto Wannabe. 😅
Nagato simply defeats Itachi
rinnegan beats sharingan any day
@@sirdaniethank you
Basic Otsuksuki using EMS cs Rinnegan the Rinnegan is taking the win every time
@@sirdanienot really, ems sasuke beats rinnegan anyone pretty much….
Itachi just has to hit Nagato with the Totska Blade and it's over.
Which he did lmao
@@BrysonCollins12yeah except for edo madara your 100%right
When Nick says for all intents and purposes yknw the video is fire
Crediting itachi with destroying nagato’s chibaku tensei like he did it alone is crazy
actually didnt credit itachi was the only one that destroyed it he said at 18:16 that itachi contribute on destroying it and again on 38:14 nick said he needed help of naruto and Bee
At first in the beginning he talked about the feat like it was itachi who did it alone, later he said the right thing tho.
They both play important roles in Naruto's life.
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Indeed one taught him how to do from front and other one taught him how to do from back
Let's be real. If not for Itachi's crow, Naruto and the Allied Shinobi Forces would've lost the war.
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Which shows that if prepared for the fight, Itachi's superior battle IQ and preparation skills would likely win him the hypothetical fight between him and Pain.
@@thetrue7sparksIn my opinion Itachi is one of the most Unique, Authentic and Influential characters from the series. The thing that people underestimate about Itachi fights/encounters, isn't just his power, (it's mainly writters or Kishimoto's fault for making Itachi seem or to look very powerful throughout the series) but how smart and intelligent he is during various situations, he never, ever underestimates his opponents because of his composure and his way of being, the level of thinking he's on honestly dwars most people in the series, with only people like Minato and Shikaku comparable with him. More precisly, Itachi isn't just any ordinary Shinobi also, he pretty much knows and he's also aware that all strong opponents have weaknesses (including himself), and he specializes in finding those "weaknesses" and exploiting them ("*Even the strongest of opponents always has a weakness*" - Uchiha Itachi) because he's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. Itachi is very unique and authentic, especially in the factor of facing various encounters approach, his unpredictability in his way of fighting style approach it's his key factor in all of his encounters. Being blind or nearly blind has never slowed him down (especially when he's pretty much serious, but that's the point, he has never go all out against anyone during the series.) Itachi it's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. (at least that's what we were shown in the anime by the creator Masashi Kishimoto). Moral of the story, never underestimate Itachi. He did more sick than most healthy ninjas do in their entire life. In my opinion No One should underestimate such an unpredictable Shinobi like Itachi, even Madara (I won't say that Itachi can beat him, but at least he will be pretty much able to put a decent fight that Madara will also be impressed in my opinion). Also how can some of you guys even consider that Totsuka Blade it's slow when no such speed feat has been shown through the Shippuden that state it that it is slow? All of you are assuming it to be slow it may not be the case... Its not that the sword is unavoidable but it clearly has a very long range and is a very long blade. If you look at the manga, Naruto, Bee and Itachi are all relatively small from Nagato's point of view, and you can see the Totsuka Blade extending all the way from Itachi, piercing through Nagato, and still managing to nearly pop out toward the reader out of the page. I would say its fast because Kabuto coudldn't even react to it, and its not like Nagato was completely immobile to the point that he couldn't sidestep the blade. Also, Kabuto controlling people from far away is never stated to inhibit the Edos' reaction speed in any way. Being controlled by someone thousands of miles away didn't stop the Third Raikage from dodging KCM Naruto's Rasenshuriken. And as for Orochimaru, the sword struck him in between syllables of a word during his speech. I think that that is pretty fast. Pair the Totuska Blade with a good feint and its lethal because its ethereal, meaning it can pierce through any object. If the sword didn't live up to its reputation then Orochimaru wouldn't seek it out. People need to stop downplaying Itachi and denying the very clear speed feats of Totsuka. There is no room for interpretations here. The advantage of being an Uchiha, especially for Itachi and Madara, is that during an encounter against them, they always have a counter because of their unpredictable way of fighting factor, they don't run out of options or techniques, they almost always have a counter in their arsenal, even forbidden jutsus seems irrellevant against them, only a few Uchihas know a certain way to approach the situation with a certain and effective technique, that's why is hard/difficult to fight against them in my opinion. ☯️ 🤷🏻♂️ Here are the things that make Itachi so formidable. Tsukuyomi - A genjutsu so powerful that you literally can't escape it unless you have the same blood as Itachi, as stated by Itachi himself and proven later by Sasuke, or you're a jinchuriki. Jinchuriki are supposed to be immune to genjutsu but it hasn't been proven, but when Bee was fighting Edo Nagato and Itachi with Naruto, he said to watch out for Tsukuyomi explicitly. Literally 99% of all opponents fighting Itachi have no way of stopping Tsukuyomi. You could have the power to split the planet in half and it wouldn't matter. (Want to know why? - Kakashi pretty much state it in the actual anime and manga that Tsukuyomi it's such a dangerous Genjutsu Technique because it happen in a instant, even if you realize that you are trapped in the Tsukuyomi, it will be too late, because Itachi could approach you during that time in the real world (or he can use an Explosive Clone to approach you without you even realizing it in time and he can pretty much finish you before you can even realize, - 72 hours in Tsukuyomi realm means 1 second or a couple of seconds in the real world. Tsukuyomi can't be broken, when used to it's fullest.) The Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror - The Susanoo itself is a near invincible defense but these two weapons take it to the next step. The Sword of Totsuka can seal "anything" if it even touches it. It's completely OP. It's hard to fight a guy that can seal you away if his sword even touches you. The Yata Mirror is even a bigger deal in my opinion. It doesn't block attacks, it's "negates" them. You could throw an Amaterasu covered Bijuu bomb at Itachi and the Yata mirror will negate it, making it so the Susanoo doesn't even need to take a blow. You could punch the Yata mirror and the force will completely be negated. His biggest strength of all: tactical intelligence - Itachi always outsmarts and plans for everything because the plot demands it. You're physically strong? Itachi is already 2 steps ahead of you knowing exactly what to do. You're extremely fast? Again, 2 steps. You're going to try and outlast Itachi in a fight? Good luck. To add to this, some of the 3 most powerful techniques in the verse are due to his intelligence and planning ability; Izanami, Izanagi, and Kotoamatsukami. Izanami - A forbbiden genjutsu technique that allows you to alter someone's destiny. Impossible to break out of even if you know you're in a genjutsu without complying with the users set destiny for you. Even someone like Bee, a perfect Jinchuriki, can't escape Izanami unless he does what Itachi wants him to. Izanagi - You somehow gained an advantage over Itachi? He makes it so that advantage never happened. Kotoamatsukami - Though Shisui's technique, Itachi has his eye which effectively makes it his weapon. A genjutsu so powerful that the person it's cast on doesn't even know they're under a genjutsu. Like the Tsukuyomi, completely OP. To add to all of this, Itachi is pretty good at hand to hand combat, is great with shuriken, is extremely fast, is great with regular fire techniques, is slippery and unpredictable, and has the extremely dangerous and fast Genjutsu style of fighting approach that can caught you off guard almost at any time. With all of these things considered you've got one dangerous ninja. Lastly but not least Kishimoto made sure that Itachi was seen as someone special and he did an incredible job in establishing that in the story. When Itachi Uchiha awakened his Susano'o, he was seen wielding legendary weapons of the Totsuka Blade and the Yata Mirror. The former allowed Itachi to seal anyone he pierced in a world of genjutsu forever, while the latter gave him the ability to deflect any and all attacks thrown towards him, regardless of whether they were physical or spiritual in nature. According to Zetsu (who was around since the period of Kaguya time era until the present of Naruto) he state it in the anime and also in the manga that these weapons, when combined with his Susano'o, made Itachi Invincible. This is why Kishimoto basically had to give him a handicap: Naruto AIDS. 🤷🏻♂️ ☯️
@thetrue7sparks Bruh... just let it go. Itachi is not beating Nagato. Dude's a full blooded Uzumaki with two rinnegan. He was broken to begin with.
@ladariusholmes1215 He said pain, not nagato. Pain ain't an Uzumaki.
Nagato hard counters every single one of itachi’s abilities to a point where itachi has no option but to straight up use taijutsu in which Nagato would just overwhelm him with all the abilities he has access to
he couldnt deal with the totsuka Blade ,he couldnt deal with basic rasengan. Konohamaru outsmarted that fraud.he couldnt deal with basic genjutsu from jiraiya why should we listen to that. fraud
@@ITACHITHEGOAT-gg4ky It depends. the Totsuka blade is chakra right? Almighty push pushes away chakra. The fight with the edos, Naruto and Bee was a team effort and wouldn't have gone down the same way had it been any of the 3 fighting solo. Itachi literally asks for their help to beat Nagato and that's Nagato fully controlled, not one that is in full control of all of his powers with an infinitely replenishing chakra.
Rasengan is the same. We literally see the Deva path do it multiple times to resengans way stronger than Komohamarus but don't let actual facts get in your way.
If you think frog song is "basic" genjutsu then you've not read the manga. From it's showing, frog song is top 3 genjutsu when it comes to being unable to counter it. The first being IT obviously and the second being Tsykuyomi. Every other genjutsu we see has a counter. The only reason Pain wasn't done in by frog song is the fact Nagato wasn't present. If he was then it would have been game over. Even Koto has a counter. "Basic" genjutsu isn't even what Kurenai used on Itachi, that's advanced. Basic Genjutsu is what Kakashi was using on Zabuza and even that wouldn't be able to be countered by anyone weaker.
@@teeboz6237 Don’t think of the Totsuka Blade as being made of chakra.
It’s not well explained AT ALL but think of it as an Ethereal Weapon and more importantly. As a Sword that doesn’t abide by the normal power system of Naruto.
So no, Nagato can’t deal with the Totsuka Blade or the Yata Mirror for that matter.
I don’t know what that Itachi Glazer is on about, Nagato can ABSOLUTELY handle Rasengans.
All in all between Edo Nagato (Post-Chakra Absorption) vs Edo Itachi. I’m giving it to Edo Itachi IF AND ONLY IF his Ethereal Weapons function as they should.
Meaning that the Yata Mirror which can reflect anything, can withstand all Deva Path attacks and isn’t affected by the Preta Path.
Also meaning that the Totsuka Blade isn’t affected by the Preta Path.
If that’s not the case. Then Edo Itachi loses badly.
@@mekb2325there is nothing that suggests Itachi cannot be pulled out of Susanoo with Almighty Pull, in a similar manner to Edo Madara being pulled out of Susanoo with Gaara’s Sand that had been “lightened” significantly, basically made air, which functionally is an Almighty Pull
@@Ntimidation “Meaning that the Yata Mirror which can reflect anything, can withstand all Deva Path attacks”
I kinda wanted to see more of the Akatsuki just as an organization. Like what is the work relationship between those guys. Do they make awkward small talk too??
A wild Arcanine? Go Poké Ball!
@@SpammytheHedgehog:>
They make hentai movies
290? 300?
My girlfriend and I were Kisame and itachi for Halloween. The akatsuki runs deep
That's so cool
Itachi and Kisame clapping cheeks confirmed
Nagato: I lost my parents in the Second Great Ninja War.
Itachi: I witnessed the Third Great Ninja war.
So did Nagato
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Your guy thought he went on vaca@@xavior0218
So did Nagato and lost his parents…
Nagato witnessed the 2nd and 3rd great ninja wars and lost his family
Nagato and Obito's six paths are interesting because Nagato created them out of need while Obito studied what Nagato did and elevated it. Nagato's 6 paths used the abilities of the rinnegan and were extensions of him, while Obito's had a rinnegan and a sharingan but didn't use either abilities and instead used their own. Which is actually very similar to how the Shinju work who also have rinnegan but can't (so far, excluding Jura) use rinnegan abilities but do have the abilities of the person they bit. They don't even seem to have the shared vision.
Excellent matchup and analysis
Itachi gave Naruto a crow
Nagato gave Naruto pain
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The Nagato part of this video just makes me realize how strong the rinnegan is in Boruti just based off the 6 paths explanation.
Nagato wins and it’s not close
Yoooo thank you for the watch connect. These are beautiful
Itachi: *activates the Perfect Susanoo*
Nagato: *summons Gedo Statue*
Itach doesn't have a perfect susanoo
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Susano is made out of chakra anyway, Nagato can prolly just absorb it
Why wouldnt Itachi be able to seal the gedo statue? And as far as absorbing itahcis susanoo weapons... If Nagato could, why didnt he do it when he got hit by the totsuka? He cant absorb them, maybe the susanoo itself, but Itachi can form it again later.
@@cristianconnolly2709we actually haven't seen the gedo statue take damage yet. I doubt itachi could even pierce it
It’s also super important to note that nagato in that fight was not in control of himself for half of it, namely the part where he actually fights itachi, that means that a guy that didn’t know his abilities as well as nagato was controlling his body from somewhere not on the battle field effectively nerfing his battle prowess.
Let's be real. Itachi carried the fight when he, Naruto and Killer Bee fought Edo Nagato.
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you man AFTER Itachi got caught and would have been sealed without Bee and Naruto saving him? cause it took all 3 of them using attacks to break the seal and Itachi's attack was BY FAR the weakest of the 3 attacks.
I mean how he carried the fight ? He saved them a few times true but if nagato wasn't in control and Itachi was alone ...Itachi would've been packed
He just didn’t though. Itachi has literally zero answer for chibaku tensei and would have lost without Bee and Naruto.
@@cameronmynhier2628 that's the point Itachi has almost no counter for most of rinnegan jutsu .... If nagato use planetary devastation he is done ....if nagato pulls Itachi's soul out he is done ..... Itachi isn't beating nagato
I always find it weird when Itachi fans claim that Itachi beats prime Nagato. Nagato literally overpower three of the strongest characters in the series at once, including the two stronger tailed beast hosts, and he only lost because he explained to them how to fight him and finally was caught off guard. Even Kabuto called Nagato his strongest reanimation, not Itachi. I think that Itachi can win in a fight with Nagato, but it certainly wouldn’t be the result of being the stronger of the two, it could only happen with very careful planning and incredibly quick strategizing.
Bro what mythical creature did you kill to make that flamboyant ass vest
A flamboyant flamingo 🦩
Awesome as always thanks 😊
I’m very surprised he never mentioned the other Uchiha abilities. Specifically Izanagi.
There’s the short period of which Itachi can counter attack with Totsuka after Chibaku Tensei. Not saying Itachi wins always but that trump card that Obito basically used against Conan is hard to predict against.
Nagato uses chibaku drops his guard then Itachi shows up with Totsuka to seal him.
Izanagi & Izanami are some of the worst things Kishimoto created. Izanagi's effect is only limited by the amount of chakra a person can feed into it. Without Hashirama cells or being an Indra reincarnate, it is just a few seconds. I should point out. Izanagi has been shown to only affect the user. Only in anime only scenes have we seen Izanagi's influence extended beyond the user. In the manga it is only shown to change the fate of the user. It is a severely watered down Creation of all Things.
Nagato can just Almighty Push the sword away. The Rinnegan has sensory perception like the Sharingan. It is an upgraded Sharingan after all. We seen the paths be able to see through smokescreens and dust as well as keep up with some of the fastest in the verse at that time.
@ firstly, it only needs to work for a second while he’s being sealed by Chibaku.
Nagato cannot use Almighty push directly after using Chibaku, leaving himself open.
If his visual prowess was good enough to overcome Itachi’s stealth, then his other Paths would not have been obstructed with simple kunai Itachi used to blind him.
The path to victory exists and has been proven time again on the anime.
@@robbieburchartz9263kabuto wasn't using nagatos senory abilities lol
32:37 I thought it was obvious Nagato simply didnt want to fight…
Lots of people seems to forget that zetsu who seen the whole history of the shinobi world unfold once said that his Susanoo made Itachi the strongest man in the world during Sasuke and Itachi fight.
Zetsu also said he never expected Pain to be defeated by anyone
Another awesome video
Nagato is a beast. But what if itachi never got sick and actually progressed fully into I'd imagine something weve never seen. Take away his Chakra sickness and he obtained a ems there may be no stopping him
Nagato and Itachi should've been reincarnations of Ashura and Indra.
Well, there was already an Indra reincarnation, so it would've just been Nagato as Ashura
237. And madara was alive so indra and ashura couldn't reincarnate
Jiraiya at some point believed nagato was the child of prophecy
they are supposed to be naruto and sasuke if they were born earlier , the show shows many comparisons like nagato supposed to be the child of prophecy and itachi becoming a threat
The show is not called itachi and nagato.
Nagato dogwalks Itachi. A Nagato on Autopilot came very close to soloing KCM Naruto, Bee, AND Itachi. Like, there is no debate on this. It literally took the help of the two strongest tailed beasts for Itachi to have a chance. I'm convinced most fans of Naruto don't actually pay attention.
In Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm Revolution... Orochimaru wanted both Itachi's Sharingan and Nagato's Rinnegan.
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And got demolished by both lol
yo sweet necklace👌
halfway into the video noticed the matching bracelet lmfao that's dope
I just want to say it was NOT Naruto’s puny rasengan that was amping red hair nagato lol. Nagato got OP ash after absorbing bee’s entire V2 cloak.
It's about time you made this video
main content starts 5:10
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Hagoromo's descendant wins.
Which one?
This video stays on topic in an intellectual and complex way that doesn’t insult/rug-pull the audience or even insult those same. The concrete info here should dash any opinions of would be experts.
I just realized Nagato had let himself be struck by the Totsuka Blade in the 4th Great Ninja War.
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It’s not even that he let himself get stabbed, Kabuto was completely controlling Nagato, so it was Kabuto’s blunder, not an anti-feat for Nagato.
@@bloster_antIn my opinion Itachi is one of the most Unique, Authentic and Influential characters from the series. The thing that people underestimate about Itachi fights/encounters, isn't just his power, (it's mainly writters or Kishimoto's fault for making Itachi seem or to look very powerful throughout the series) but how smart and intelligent he is during various situations, he never, ever underestimates his opponents because of his composure and his way of being, the level of thinking he's on honestly dwars most people in the series, with only people like Minato and Shikaku comparable with him. More precisly, Itachi isn't just any ordinary Shinobi also, he pretty much knows and he's also aware that all strong opponents have weaknesses (including himself), and he specializes in finding those "weaknesses" and exploiting them ("*Even the strongest of opponents always has a weakness*" - Uchiha Itachi) because he's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. Itachi is very unique and authentic, especially in the factor of facing various encounters approach, his unpredictability in his way of fighting style approach it's his key factor in all of his encounters. Being blind or nearly blind has never slowed him down (especially when he's pretty much serious, but that's the point, he has never go all out against anyone during the series.) Itachi it's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. (at least that's what we were shown in the anime by the creator Masashi Kishimoto). Moral of the story, never underestimate Itachi. He did more sick than most healthy ninjas do in their entire life. In my opinion No One should underestimate such an unpredictable Shinobi like Itachi, even Madara (I won't say that Itachi can beat him, but at least he will be pretty much able to put a decent fight that Madara will also be impressed in my opinion). Also how can some of you guys even consider that Totsuka Blade it's slow when no such speed feat has been shown through the Shippuden that state it that it is slow? All of you are assuming it to be slow it may not be the case... Its not that the sword is unavoidable but it clearly has a very long range and is a very long blade. If you look at the manga, Naruto, Bee and Itachi are all relatively small from Nagato's point of view, and you can see the Totsuka Blade extending all the way from Itachi, piercing through Nagato, and still managing to nearly pop out toward the reader out of the page. I would say its fast because Kabuto coudldn't even react to it, and its not like Nagato was completely immobile to the point that he couldn't sidestep the blade. Also, Kabuto controlling people from far away is never stated to inhibit the Edos' reaction speed in any way. Being controlled by someone thousands of miles away didn't stop the Third Raikage from dodging KCM Naruto's Rasenshuriken. And as for Orochimaru, the sword struck him in between syllables of a word during his speech. I think that that is pretty fast. Pair the Totuska Blade with a good feint and its lethal because its ethereal, meaning it can pierce through any object. If the sword didn't live up to its reputation then Orochimaru wouldn't seek it out. People need to stop downplaying Itachi and denying the very clear speed feats of Totsuka. There is no room for interpretations here. The advantage of being an Uchiha, especially for Itachi and Madara, is that during an encounter against them, they always have a counter because of their unpredictable way of fighting factor, they don't run out of options or techniques, they almost always have a counter in their arsenal, even forbidden jutsus seems irrellevant against them, only a few Uchihas know a certain way to approach the situation with a certain and effective technique, that's why is hard/difficult to fight against them in my opinion. ☯️ 🤷🏻♂️ Here are the things that make Itachi so formidable. Tsukuyomi - A genjutsu so powerful that you literally can't escape it unless you have the same blood as Itachi, as stated by Itachi himself and proven later by Sasuke, or you're a jinchuriki. Jinchuriki are supposed to be immune to genjutsu but it hasn't been proven, but when Bee was fighting Edo Nagato and Itachi with Naruto, he said to watch out for Tsukuyomi explicitly. Literally 99% of all opponents fighting Itachi have no way of stopping Tsukuyomi. You could have the power to split the planet in half and it wouldn't matter. (Want to know why? - Kakashi pretty much state it in the actual anime and manga that Tsukuyomi it's such a dangerous Genjutsu Technique because it happen in a instant, even if you realize that you are trapped in the Tsukuyomi, it will be too late, because Itachi could approach you during that time in the real world (or he can use an Explosive Clone to approach you without you even realizing it in time and he can pretty much finish you before you can even realize, - 72 hours in Tsukuyomi realm means 1 second or a couple of seconds in the real world. Tsukuyomi can't be broken, when used to it's fullest.) The Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror - The Susanoo itself is a near invincible defense but these two weapons take it to the next step. The Sword of Totsuka can seal "anything" if it even touches it. It's completely OP. It's hard to fight a guy that can seal you away if his sword even touches you. The Yata Mirror is even a bigger deal in my opinion. It doesn't block attacks, it's "negates" them. You could throw an Amaterasu covered Bijuu bomb at Itachi and the Yata mirror will negate it, making it so the Susanoo doesn't even need to take a blow. You could punch the Yata mirror and the force will completely be negated. His biggest strength of all: tactical intelligence - Itachi always outsmarts and plans for everything because the plot demands it. You're physically strong? Itachi is already 2 steps ahead of you knowing exactly what to do. You're extremely fast? Again, 2 steps. You're going to try and outlast Itachi in a fight? Good luck. To add to this, some of the 3 most powerful techniques in the verse are due to his intelligence and planning ability; Izanami, Izanagi, and Kotoamatsukami. Izanami - A forbbiden genjutsu technique that allows you to alter someone's destiny. Impossible to break out of even if you know you're in a genjutsu without complying with the users set destiny for you. Even someone like Bee, a perfect Jinchuriki, can't escape Izanami unless he does what Itachi wants him to. Izanagi - You somehow gained an advantage over Itachi? He makes it so that advantage never happened. Kotoamatsukami - Though Shisui's technique, Itachi has his eye which effectively makes it his weapon. A genjutsu so powerful that the person it's cast on doesn't even know they're under a genjutsu. Like the Tsukuyomi, completely OP. To add to all of this, Itachi is pretty good at hand to hand combat, is great with shuriken, is extremely fast, is great with regular fire techniques, is slippery and unpredictable, and has the extremely dangerous and fast Genjutsu style of fighting approach that can caught you off guard almost at any time. With all of these things considered you've got one dangerous ninja. Lastly but not least Kishimoto made sure that Itachi was seen as someone special and he did an incredible job in establishing that in the story. When Itachi Uchiha awakened his Susano'o, he was seen wielding legendary weapons of the Totsuka Blade and the Yata Mirror. The former allowed Itachi to seal anyone he pierced in a world of genjutsu forever, while the latter gave him the ability to deflect any and all attacks thrown towards him, regardless of whether they were physical or spiritual in nature. According to Zetsu (who was around since the period of Kaguya time era until the present of Naruto) he state it in the anime and also in the manga that these weapons, when combined with his Susano'o, made Itachi Invincible. This is why Kishimoto basically had to give him a handicap: Naruto AIDS. 🤷🏻♂️ ☯️
@@bloster_antno nagato was helping them defeat him, before kabuto took over completely
@@bloster_ant Hahahah kabuto was also controlling him when konohamaru Rasenganned him
I mean I feel like if itachi could get izanami on perfect sage kabuto. Then he could cast it on full power nagato
Itachi fought Jiraiya and ran away
Pain fought Jiraiya and killed him
Itachi didn’t really fight jiraiya and never planed nor wanted to kill him
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@@JFRESH-pz2nfIn my opinion Itachi is one of the most Unique, Authentic and Influential characters from the series. The thing that people underestimate about Itachi fights/encounters, isn't just his power, (it's mainly writters or Kishimoto's fault for making Itachi seem or to look very powerful throughout the series) but how smart and intelligent he is during various situations, he never, ever underestimates his opponents because of his composure and his way of being, the level of thinking he's on honestly dwars most people in the series, with only people like Minato and Shikaku comparable with him. More precisly, Itachi isn't just any ordinary Shinobi also, he pretty much knows and he's also aware that all strong opponents have weaknesses (including himself), and he specializes in finding those "weaknesses" and exploiting them ("*Even the strongest of opponents always has a weakness*" - Uchiha Itachi) because he's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. Itachi is very unique and authentic, especially in the factor of facing various encounters approach, his unpredictability in his way of fighting style approach it's his key factor in all of his encounters. Being blind or nearly blind has never slowed him down (especially when he's pretty much serious, but that's the point, he has never go all out against anyone during the series.) Itachi it's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. (at least that's what we were shown in the anime by the creator Masashi Kishimoto). Moral of the story, never underestimate Itachi. He did more sick than most healthy ninjas do in their entire life. In my opinion No One should underestimate such an unpredictable Shinobi like Itachi, even Madara (I won't say that Itachi can beat him, but at least he will be pretty much able to put a decent fight that Madara will also be impressed in my opinion). Also how can some of you guys even consider that Totsuka Blade it's slow when no such speed feat has been shown through the Shippuden that state it that it is slow? All of you are assuming it to be slow it may not be the case... Its not that the sword is unavoidable but it clearly has a very long range and is a very long blade. If you look at the manga, Naruto, Bee and Itachi are all relatively small from Nagato's point of view, and you can see the Totsuka Blade extending all the way from Itachi, piercing through Nagato, and still managing to nearly pop out toward the reader out of the page. I would say its fast because Kabuto coudldn't even react to it, and its not like Nagato was completely immobile to the point that he couldn't sidestep the blade. Also, Kabuto controlling people from far away is never stated to inhibit the Edos' reaction speed in any way. Being controlled by someone thousands of miles away didn't stop the Third Raikage from dodging KCM Naruto's Rasenshuriken. And as for Orochimaru, the sword struck him in between syllables of a word during his speech. I think that that is pretty fast. Pair the Totuska Blade with a good feint and its lethal because its ethereal, meaning it can pierce through any object. If the sword didn't live up to its reputation then Orochimaru wouldn't seek it out. People need to stop downplaying Itachi and denying the very clear speed feats of Totsuka. There is no room for interpretations here. The advantage of being an Uchiha, especially for Itachi and Madara, is that during an encounter against them, they always have a counter because of their unpredictable way of fighting factor, they don't run out of options or techniques, they almost always have a counter in their arsenal, even forbidden jutsus seems irrellevant against them, only a few Uchihas know a certain way to approach the situation with a certain and effective technique, that's why is hard/difficult to fight against them in my opinion. ☯️ 🤷🏻♂️ Here are the things that make Itachi so formidable. Tsukuyomi - A genjutsu so powerful that you literally can't escape it unless you have the same blood as Itachi, as stated by Itachi himself and proven later by Sasuke, or you're a jinchuriki. Jinchuriki are supposed to be immune to genjutsu but it hasn't been proven, but when Bee was fighting Edo Nagato and Itachi with Naruto, he said to watch out for Tsukuyomi explicitly. Literally 99% of all opponents fighting Itachi have no way of stopping Tsukuyomi. You could have the power to split the planet in half and it wouldn't matter. (Want to know why? - Kakashi pretty much state it in the actual anime and manga that Tsukuyomi it's such a dangerous Genjutsu Technique because it happen in a instant, even if you realize that you are trapped in the Tsukuyomi, it will be too late, because Itachi could approach you during that time in the real world (or he can use an Explosive Clone to approach you without you even realizing it in time and he can pretty much finish you before you can even realize, - 72 hours in Tsukuyomi realm means 1 second or a couple of seconds in the real world. Tsukuyomi can't be broken, when used to it's fullest.) The Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror - The Susanoo itself is a near invincible defense but these two weapons take it to the next step. The Sword of Totsuka can seal "anything" if it even touches it. It's completely OP. It's hard to fight a guy that can seal you away if his sword even touches you. The Yata Mirror is even a bigger deal in my opinion. It doesn't block attacks, it's "negates" them. You could throw an Amaterasu covered Bijuu bomb at Itachi and the Yata mirror will negate it, making it so the Susanoo doesn't even need to take a blow. You could punch the Yata mirror and the force will completely be negated. His biggest strength of all: tactical intelligence - Itachi always outsmarts and plans for everything because the plot demands it. You're physically strong? Itachi is already 2 steps ahead of you knowing exactly what to do. You're extremely fast? Again, 2 steps. You're going to try and outlast Itachi in a fight? Good luck. To add to this, some of the 3 most powerful techniques in the verse are due to his intelligence and planning ability; Izanami, Izanagi, and Kotoamatsukami. Izanami - A forbbiden genjutsu technique that allows you to alter someone's destiny. Impossible to break out of even if you know you're in a genjutsu without complying with the users set destiny for you. Even someone like Bee, a perfect Jinchuriki, can't escape Izanami unless he does what Itachi wants him to. Izanagi - You somehow gained an advantage over Itachi? He makes it so that advantage never happened. Kotoamatsukami - Though Shisui's technique, Itachi has his eye which effectively makes it his weapon. A genjutsu so powerful that the person it's cast on doesn't even know they're under a genjutsu. Like the Tsukuyomi, completely OP. To add to all of this, Itachi is pretty good at hand to hand combat, is great with shuriken, is extremely fast, is great with regular fire techniques, is slippery and unpredictable, and has the extremely dangerous and fast Genjutsu style of fighting approach that can caught you off guard almost at any time. With all of these things considered you've got one dangerous ninja. Lastly but not least Kishimoto made sure that Itachi was seen as someone special and he did an incredible job in establishing that in the story. When Itachi Uchiha awakened his Susano'o, he was seen wielding legendary weapons of the Totsuka Blade and the Yata Mirror. The former allowed Itachi to seal anyone he pierced in a world of genjutsu forever, while the latter gave him the ability to deflect any and all attacks thrown towards him, regardless of whether they were physical or spiritual in nature. According to Zetsu (who was around since the period of Kaguya time era until the present of Naruto) he state it in the anime and also in the manga that these weapons, when combined with his Susano'o, made Itachi Invincible. This is why Kishimoto basically had to give him a handicap: Naruto AIDS. 🤷🏻♂️ ☯️
@@DavidLuciani bet you my last dollar no ones reading that
@@sirdanie As If I care. 😅🤦🏻♂️
Hmm we know that main occular jutsu have resistance to genjutsu, however, his paths of pain were apparently affected by genjutsu, along with the summonings. Even if it's not an instant win, I would think his sharingan genjutsu would still work. It would also make the full power fight between the 2 closer(besides chibaku tensei scenario) still give full power fight 6 out of 10 wins to nagato
itachi is like the Freddy Kroger of the ninja world…. Only difference is he doesn’t mess with kids lol
other than sasuke
new subscriber here let me tell you man you do these videos too well! good stuff
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Let's gooooo a versus battle!!
Nagato high diff
There are a few points I find doubtful.
1. The strongest form of Nagato was the one before using the Statue the first time (no edo tense nerf, no burned legs, no rods yet).
2. Nagato didn’t “use” anything because every move he made was controlled by Kabuto. So the Amaterasu hitting the first time and the entire fight didn’t include any of the Nagato battle IQ. Even weakened edo Nagato could have started the fight with a Chibaku tensei as his limitation was physical only.
3. Genjutsu immunity is a bit of a stretch, considering 3 paths of pain were killed using a genjutsu by Jiraya.
4. Naruto said Nagato is a lot stronger when the latter was still in his weakened state not after.
All in all, I love Itachi as a character but I don’t see him winning under any reasonable conditions.
Nagato claps 👏
40 minute video time to get my popcorn and enjoy
Nagato understood Sasuke's pain before Naruto did.
How??
Why do people always forget that Nagato just finished a VILLAGE LEVEL ATTACK before he even started his fight with Naruto?
Why does bro pronunces "tensai" and not "tensei"?
27:30 it's called " almighty push " and the other is " universal pull " please get the terms right 🙏
This is like the 3rd vid he posted about this and we still gon watch 😂😂
39:53 And thing is, Nick, if you want to go with the "Totsuka Blade is a chakra construct" point, that means you can make a legitimate argument that *even in his paraplegic state* Edo Nagato still wins. Simply because now Itachi has zero win condition because his one surefire sealing technique is off the table - if Edo Nagato while emaciated and being burned by/patching himself up from Amaterasu is still able to perform a Shinra Tensei to push the flames off of him, there's no real reason why he could not also perform the chakra absorption of the Preta Path even while suffering from Amaterasu.
And absorbing the chakra from a chakra construct and its arsenal like the Susanoo could be enough to help restore Nagato at least closer to his red-haired prime, with even an incomplete one like Itachi being at least relative to a 4-6 tail jin cloak in the same way that a complete one like Sasuke's is comparable to Naruto's Kurama avatar.
Let’s goooo Nick!!!
10:40 I don’t think that’s the best argument. Blunders are inevitable due to unpredictability. It’s like saying the loser lost because they didn’t fight a perfect battle. Neither fight “blunderless” battles.
@18:50 EMS & @19:00 FTL Please can you put what these acronyms stand for on the screen in subsequent videos
Dope video
Nagato, next question
Is there a limit to 1 type of Sage Mode being active at a time, or could someone practiced in multiple styles stack them?
I wanted this for a while
The only thing in the video I may argue is the fact that we have to remember that Kabuto was somewhat controlling them. At least, to some extent at this point. You yourself said that Nagato was giving them tips on how to beat him. So even after Nagato learns that Itachi broke out of reanimation, he probably didn’t WANT to dodge Amaterasu. He probably wanted to die from it. Until Kabuto gained full control of Nagato and forced the flames off.
This video was JUST uploaded like 5 minutes ago and I'm seeing comments already.
How are there 72 likes already and comments when Nick hasn't even finished talking yet??? The video is like 40 minutes long!
Will this man EVER say 'Edo TensEi' and not 'Edo TensAi'.....otherwise, great video haha!
I don’t even know if we seen everything Itachi can do. Every fight he pulls out some deus ex machina jutsu that’s perfect for the situation being a genius and all. Our analysis does not out wit his writing.
14:30 “orichimaru without his arms…” *proceeds to show image of orichimaru punching Naruto in the face.
Bro why are you mentioning events/feats characters accomplished in a video game like it’s canon
39:44 i always thought that if naruto and killer be were removed from the fight, the fight would play out relatively the same when it comes to shibaku tensai, what i mean is that, i really dont think that a single yasaka bead is all that itachi can make at once, im sure he could make 3 or even pop out 2 water clones to make the extra 2 and it would have the same effect as the 2 tailed beast bombs and yasaka bead.
Around 31:00 you can hear Nick fighting saying “Chakra-ly”
Please do Jiraiya vs Itachi next, I beg you.
Nice video to go to sleep with
No comment reading is necessary on this one 😂 It will be toxic all over the place
So Good night y’all
Nagato is truly god level with his 6 paths of pain ability
A little of topic but you said that the Rinnegan gives someone the ability to use those black chakrarots, so how is Obito in the fight with Konan able to use them? Is it another plot hole or Armor? Or is there a good explanation?
So I have a thought/question. If prime nagato uses chibuka and itachi sees/knows it's threat level couldn't help in theory use his susano to grab nagato and pull with? Thus forcing a draw or making him stop the jutsu?
Very depressed, kinda cry for the monk.
Bro you need to do the new episodes on your channel too. Like a in depth explanation about the character or episode or ego or differences between the Manga and anime. Idk if you want
Amazing video i like thepoints from both sides i wish your went into depth more on the izanami for itachi, but i understand that it wouldnt work because at this point nagato was no longer lost and had returned to his originally good state. Id like to ad that itachi has koto as well and he could have used koto as a diversion of some sort tho i beleive the rinnegan breaks koto fairly easily considering it can block INFINITE TSUKYNOMI. ID ALSO LIKE TO ADD, its not that nagato couldnt dodge amaterasu. Its the fact he was not controlling himself. It was kabuto who had no ideah how to use nagato. I think the outcomes are the same as you beleive but i truly think nagato not being controlled is an entirely different fight. Whos to say he cant add all his moves with the chubaku tensei. For instance when he did planetary against naruto. He was able to use another universal pull to capture 6 tails naruto. And toss him into the chibaķu tensei. He had the other hand blocking beast bombs from the 6 tails. So i think the moment nagato throws out chibaku tensei no matter what form hes in. The fights over. For anyone who dont get it. ALL FORMS OF NAGATO CAN USE CHIBAKU TENSEI WHILE SUMMONING , WHILE ADDING ALL MIGHTY PUSH OR PULL TO IT. WHILE EVEN DOING AN ENTIRE BEAM OF CHAKRA AS WE HAVE SEEN ON STORM HE CAN DESTROY HIS OWN PLANETARY DEVASTATION. HE CAN ALSO SPEED UP THE RATE IN WICH THE PLANETARY CORE PULLS. AND THATS WITHOUT HIM GETTING ANGRY AND SUMMONING THE GEDO. ITS ABSOLUTELY A NO CONTEST
I was just thinking about this yesterday 😂
Question cant itachi control the summoned beast with his sharigan like sasuke did control Manda during the fight with deidara. Meaning if pain summmons beast itachi just puts them in a gengutsu and make the beast fight for him
Why didn't he do that then when he was with killer bee and Naruto?
Probably not. I don't think he could overpower the rinnegan.
Kisame vs Guy would be a dope fight
22:47 it took me up to this point realize that its an Uzumaki vs an Uchiha. Hagaromo Damn it, its Naruto vs Sasuke but if they were good lol
Love the vest thing
@NCHammer 23 also want to point out that you failed to mention even though nagato had regained his stronger state his mobility was not as good explained by Kabuto. Likely due to Hanzo heavily damaging his legs or living life in that machine. So Itachi would have the speed advantage