What radio for off road and overlanding?
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2024
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I compare the options for trail communications - CB, FRS, GMRS, and ham. 
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Great video! I use a combination of all 3, but my absolute favorite form of communication is yelling obscenities out of the driver's side window. Doesn't matter if anyone in the back understands them. Don't need a license. Transmission typically travels far enough to reach someone like Rob with a real radio, who can then relay my information.
You've got sign language too! Although you only seem to know one message...
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Really great video. I have ham & GMRS licenses, was surprised GMRS mobiles weren't featured. They should be perfect for staying in touch with a large group.
Very well done presentation. I like when it's researched with accurate information. I personally run the gamut of different Communications in my Jeep. I am a general amateur radio operator and licensed gmrs. I also do Family Radio Service & MURS. I try to stay diverse based on the groups that I am with. Your point about ham is accurate in my book. Stay safe on the trails.
At the moment I'm studying for my ham licence. But currently have a CB setup in my car. In my country we have also CB repeaters, and although they don't cover the whole country, it's definetly a great system. It even allows us to speak over the CB on the internet.
I live in the Netherlands by the way.
Finally someone who gets it! All forms of radio are a necessity and as explained all have strengths and weaknesses. I have all licenses including my old cb license back in the 70’s it was KWB9208 and that was when it was $20. Very good video sir it gets a 4.0 in my book and that’s the best collegiate grade one can aqiuire. Keep up the good work and nice setup. Also want to note I have mobile hf capabilities and I have made more contacts all over the world in my mobile over my base which is extensive. Thanks so much for the vid 73’s
Great video. Thank you.
Just found your channel and subscribed!
Great video. Just for now I'll get a CB to see how it happens.
Video right on time, been looking into this!
Great, I hope it helped!
Thanks for the vid. Been struggling to get clarity on the difference between CB and the others. Currently studying for my tech ticket, have a couple FRS/GMRS ht’s but have been considering a uniden cheap cb for the Jeep as well. Not a lot of hams here
I have the Yaesu FTM-400 in my Tacoma. Best all around radio for Overlanding. Not only can you dial up a freq. everyone in the group can be on, I can Email, Text, send and receive photos, it also has a GPS for the APRS system. You can track someone on the trails from home on a computer or smart phone. So many ways to use the new radios.
Always good to have a well tuned CB on board, as they are very common on the trails.
Good video, thanks for sharing!
Great informative vid. You couldn't have done better. In fact, perfect!
I use ham and frs. well done on the video.
Well, some years back I planed an overland safari in botswana and south africa, 5 weeks in the bush. I brought my family we have adult kids, so I also hired two 4x4 vehicles for the trip.
I needed communication between the vehicles, I tried LFR/PMR and all that "cheap" stuff and found it quite useless if we were only a few km apart, so I opted for HAM and we got licensed. The I bought two Kenwoods TM-D710G radios and some diamond antennas and magnets. I found two used Garmin nuvi 350 on ebay and got some cables from US which could connect the nuvi's and the Kenwoods TNC's - so now I got a live map where we could see each other on the map (APRS), we used one side for APRS on UHF and the other side for comm.
And finally we needed a temp/guest licens for ZA and BOT which was a challange :)
But it all got together and this setup was brilliant!
I also brought the PMR's - they were nice to have a night if someone (the kids) needed "help" during the night, you know lions and etc. in the camp is seriously quite scary.
This was super helpful man! Thanks so much for doing this. More videos on communications like this would be awesome!
I use CB and Ham radio. I run a yeasu mobile in the rig. Usually have 2 or 3 baofeng handheld radios just for emergency situations. Thinking of installing a yeasu FT-857d with a atas120 for the antenna. Small and compact system for small spaces. I had several similar systems and has worked well.
I like having several options too. The handhelds are great for scouting ahead on foot or spotting!
CB can actually be really good. As long as you install it correctly... It's the power that matters and a GOOD antenna, don't use the too short cheap ones, but install a nice long one of 1.5 meters or longer for example... CB is shortwave, shortwave radio waves theoretically reach much further than VHF waves. Atmospheric conditions also play an important role here. Personally I like AM modulation, no 'capture' effect and I like the much lower noise floor which makes listening to weak stations with the squlech open much more pleasant... Use a good CB with a good antenna that also is installed preferably in the middle of the roof of your car, with perhaps a little more transmission power and off you go!
I have both a dash-mounted CB and a handheld in my truck. That way if I'm with a friend that doesn't have one I let them borrow my handheld while were on the trail. Also, if I'm by myself and my truck breaks down on the trail, I can walk where I need to go and bring my handheld so I can still communicate. I'm thinking of adding the same set up for HAM as well.
Thats awesome! Thanks for explaining this
Nice video,, been thinking of getting a CB due to budget.
It's definitely the best thing to start with!
Very informative, thanks!
I currently have the GMRS and Ham setup and will be installing a CB within the next couple of weeks. Here is AZ, we are starting to use the (mine-Midland MXT115) GMRS more and it is a great radio with good range. CB does always have interference with some one who thinks that he always needs to comment on political issues with their high power CB radio.
GMRS can use some repeaters too. And you can get handhelds with the same power as handheld HAM radios. All without taking a class or test. Though the test isn't too hard... it's just a pain.
great video thanks
I just bought motorola t460 just to communicate with my friends in other car
we will be maybe 1 mile a part at max so hopefully, this is good enough.
AM CB (licensed by FCC rule) with 4 watts output power does have the drawbacks you mentioned, however, for just over $100 you can buy an SSB CB which legally allows 12 watts PEP output on upper or lower sideband for increased range and AM stations can not copy your signal (but you can unfortunately copy them). You can switch to AM CB with any SSB CB if needed.
With the FCC changes to Part 95 in 2017, FRS and GMRS operate on exactly the same frequencies and are interoperable. This can be very useful where one person has a legal license and an external antenna and the other person has FRS which is licensed by rule. The range between the two stations is much better than two FRS stations, especially if they are inside a vehicle. The power level for FRS is 2 watts ERP (Effective Radiated Power) on the main 462 MHz channels, but only 0.5 watts on the 467 MHz interstial channels. GMRS mobiles and base units do not operate on the 467 MHz interstitials, but a fixed antenna GMRS can. GMRS is 5 watts ERP on the 462 interstitials, but a full 50 watts output power on the 8 main channels. GMRS also has some repeaters available in some areas but not as many as ham radio. Many of the FRS radios are often not at the maximum allowable power, and manufacturers seem to not want to state the actual power. Ignore the inflated communications distances claimed.
Another Part 95 service that is licensed by rule, is MURS radio which has 5 VHF channels and allows a full 2 watts output to detachable antennas that can have high gain. They are mostly in a handie talkie format and only a few companies make them but there is at least one fairly good unit at under $60. And you can swap out the OEM antenna for a better and longer range antenna.
Ham radio can be useful if you are communicating with others who also hold a license, but this depends upon the interest. Otherwise, ham radio can not communicate with the other services and vice versa.
One thing to consider is that any of these services that use similar frequencies, power levels, antennas, and equipment quality, will work similarly. Thus, MURS works similar to 2 meter ham HT's, CB to low powered 10 meter ham, and GMRS to 440 MHz ham, etc.
Although I prefer using ham, I do wish GMRS were more common. It seems to make the most sense for your average person. It's easy to use, and if someone new is joining you, you can hand them an FRS radio! If the repeaters were more common, it would be ideal for overlanding.
Great vid, very informative, ty!
Side note: I'm just getting in to overlanding, and I'm in Kentucky. Looking to go on first trip to a very mild section of the KAT. If you want, teply back, I'd love to chat about getting into a group outing in the future.
Our Arizona Jeep club recently switched from CB to GMRS as the required form of communication on the trail. Much much better range, clarity and reliability. Many of us also have a Ham radio.
Good Video :) Wb4ur, in Central Virginia.
I have a 2014 Jeep Cherokee Latitude. I only have one radio installed. It's a 2m/440 rig by Yaesu with C4FM aka Yaesu System Fusion. I do have a GMRS license and call - WQOJ376. (I still have my HTX 212 2m mobile by Radio Shack (circa 1996) Still Works.)
I don't have an official GMRS radio, at this time. I do have a couple of Icom FRS-only HTs. I do have a couple of AM mode CBs, but I would like to get one with SSB. I had one of those Motorola Talkabouts (T7500) They did have FRS/GMRS but were not Repeater capable for GMRS, just simplex.
My Jeep is not roomy enough to install an HF rig :) ha-ha :)
I am installing a CB and GMRS in my Jeep. I am also using a GoTenna text messaging device that dont require an cell or satellite infrastructure to work, plus they are encrypted messages. Think of them like GMRS short range radios (for texting) that uses all nearby devices as a repeater, but the other people dont know the messages are being bounced off their device, the good points of a mesh network.
A lot of stuff you hear on CB is CB hobbyists, people using CB radio like ham radio... I'll admit I used to be one of them until I got my ham license. They have to be kinda loud and annoying in order to get over the background noise, because one of the things in CB is getting extreme range with low power. With an unmodified rig, I could get all the way to Florida from Toronto when the conditions are right.
My advice is to avoid channels 6, 12, 20, 38, and 33, those are the most popular CB channels for hobbyists.
Excellent!
Cb for highway use and gmrs off road . Currently just got a ham radio type for a new crew ima do trip with
Building my Overland rig...going with all 3 PLUS a cell booster for Comms/hotspot.
CB: Great on the Interstate for real-time comms/road conditions
GMRS: Stop-gap for those without HAM, along with CB.
HAM: Best of all worlds.
Cell Booster: Interwebz/Comms in shit coverage.
Also adding an mITX computer to the mix...for various reasons (MAPS!!).
Rob - good video - we still have to wheel sometime! Interference in the DBBB on CB radio? That's an understatement! Seems like CB radio down there is more popular than cable tv! Everybody is on it. (Remember Luke's fave is ch 4!) I didn't start running CB until the ECO-OHV trailrides but installed one just for those occasions. I also run quad band ham (yaesu FT-8900) and use FRS as "camp" radios where you can take one to the latrine, showers, or whatever. The key is versatility so I have multiple forms of Coms. 73's and see you out there!
Heck yeah! Will you be at the February ride? I'll be taking pictures.
FRS definitely has its place. It's a great thing for quick and easy use - especially with kids!
@@RevereOverland I am not sure yet - Been talking to Nate as I was told today by the dealership I needed new lower control arms and bearing ASAP.
Putting together my first C.B. radio setup for my overlanding car. Went with a vintage 102"whip antenna/spring($15), antenna mount($7) 15 foot cable($12) on a Cobra 29 WX NW ST-with a powered microphone ($60) and a P.A. speaker($13) for shits and gigs. I am alittle over $100 into the setup; waiting for the last pieces from amazon before i install, make a video and test it out.
Where you find these prices
@@fenrirwolf456 craigslist for the Radio and Whip, amazon for the parts.
my set up is yaesu ftm400Dr and anytone 578 dmr radio thanks good job from kb2uew
odd that you chose a handheld radio that didn't match the same digital mode as the radio in your vehicle.
Thanks. Nice comparison. The links to buy on Amazon don‘t work.
How far can i expect to carry with a midland 75-822 CB? Can you install private crystals in them?
Our setup will consist of a Cobra 29 CB, Midland mxt400 frs/gmrs radio, three hams: Yaesu FT-8900R quad band, YT-857D for HF, a Baofeng UV5R with external mounted antenna for portability and a Uniden Bearcat BCD536HP scanner. Have everything except two items.
When I get my next rig, the dilemma will be do I go with a nice Icom/Yeasu setup with remote mounting and APRS. Or do I go with a DMR Anytone unit, not remote mountable and will only send APRS but that digital signal blows the doors off of FM.
Yeah your way better off getting an 80 watt 2 meter only fm yaesu ft2900 from ham radio.comthey are only like 140 bucks and they are crystal clear.
I am a ham but don't like constantly identifying my station and spotty repeater coverage in my area so 2 meter is kinda out. Gmrs although I like the idea has no repeaters in my area. So I stick with very well set up CB s and by that I mean big clumsy antennas and ssb capable radios with plenty of power for 50 mile Communications.
Midland MXT575 inside rig and PCI race radios when dismounted.
What part of KY do you do most of you off roaring? The off road clubs in Southeastern OH where I deer hunt use CB and some are starting to use GMRS. Myself and the guys I hunt with all use cb’s, the locals in that part of the state and along the West Virginia boarder are a riot to bs with on Friday and Saturday nights.
A perfectly timed video for that facebook thread! Where did you find that RJ-45 jack you mounted in your dash? I want to rewire my TM-710G so that i can plug my mic and head unit right into the dash, but am having a hard time finding a jack that looks decent. The one you have looks great!
I should have included that in the video! Here's an affiliate link: amzn.to/2Mcfuil
I had to crimp the RJ45 connector to the mic because it comes with an RJ12 connection.
@@RevereOverland Awesome, thank you!
Side note .... do you have any videos with details of the WK?
The Multi Use Radio Service maybe an option for those who do not have the drive to take an exam for Amateur Radio, MURS has 5 unlicensed VHF channels with sub channels or (PL) Privet LIne. FRS / GMRS are good Services, but VHF HI or VHF Lo for Off road adventures. Not many license free VHF Low, the ones out there are Baby Monitors. With MURS, you extend you range further the FRS / GMRS simplex. You can advoid the bananas or knuckle heads by using sub channels, which can't be done on CB radios
I’ve never met some who uses MURS, but it might be worth looking into. FYI, ham testing can now be done online!
@@RevereOverland The reason I mentioned it, because MURS is under used . MURS is used more in retail industries, but for some exuse the radios are in stores for consumers. You find them all over the web and even at ham fest fliemarkets.
GMRS also uses repeaters most commonly found on 15. Im using a 40 watt GMRS Midland in my jeep
Unless I'm mistaken, GMRS repeaters aren't particularly common? I really wish GMRS were more prevalent in the off road and overlanding community - it's much easier to use and get a license for, and would be compatible with FRS if there were people unlicensed. I went with ham personally because it's just so much more common than all of the others (excluding CB).
@@RevereOverland i dont know a thing about HAM however GMRS is growing. Here is a link that lists repeaters mygmrs.com/browse
Seams like a lot but i dont know how big the HAM network is. Is it 2 meter 10 or 11. I have a 10 meter stryker and not aware of any repeaters
There's more than I thought for GMRS. Colorado has 26 GMRS repeaters, but when you compare it to the 383 ham repeaters in Colorado it still has a long way to go. The most common ham bands in the off road world are the 2m and 70cm bands.
@@virginiaoverlander4720 The "meters" refers to the frequency band. 2 Meters if VHF 140mhz. GMRS along with Ham radio 440mhz is in the 70cm band. 70cm covers 400-520 mhz. 11 meters is CB 26.965 to 27.405mhz. 10 Meter is primarily used for Satellite comms in the ham world, 28.000 to 29.700 mhz
@@rmetcalf89 odd my Stryker 655HP is a 10 meter has bands A B C D and E. Band D is CB 1 - 40. I do wish i knew more about HAM. Sticking with GMRS and CB for now i guess
I’m in north Tennessee and need to get my cb in my 4runner so I can go out in the woods with larger groups lol
This week I start my study Coarse for my HAM License. Have a Yaesu FT-857 what would be the best antenna. Thoughts on front or rear mounting.
Nice radio! I had an antenna mounted on the front and moved it to the back. The only reason I did that was to get it out of my camera shots! I'm not aware of any functional difference.
Check out the antenna I have at www.revereoverland.com/thejeephome/#communications - it has a spring built in to help with overgrown trails.
Thanks... I have a Cmet SBB5 antenna but didn’t like the solid mount .
What about VHF? I’ve seen people using these but I thought they were marine only.
Is it possible to have one tri or quad band radio that covers standard Ham frequencies and GMRS? I already have GMRS license and studying to get Ham license. If one radio can do both that would be great.
Many of the very common chinese Beofeng brand radios are capable of doing ham, frs, gmrs, and murs. !! HOWEVER !! ""Technically"" they are illegal to use on anything but ham radio because they are not FCC certified. Us hams can legally use them on ham frequencies because as hams WE (not the FCC, or manufacturer) are responsible for ensuring that any equipment we use is operating within the rules and if it is not, we can be held personally liable. All of that said, beofeng radios are used for all the above by hams and non hams every day, and I haven't heard of anyone, FCC, hams, or anyone else, making a fuss over it ... YET. Your mileage may vary. To be legal and stay out of trouble I would recommend getting a set of radios designed for whatever service you intend to use, whether that be CB, FRS, GMRS, MURS, or HAM.
When you have your RTT mounted where is your HAM radio antenna mounted ?
It's permanently mounted on the back. At 1:07 the CB is on the left, ham on the right.
Just getting started and planning on a sattelite txt msg communicator. No radio of any kind. As I'm a solo traveller the only use I have for comms is for medical emergencies or for a tow if hopelessly bogged. I just don't see how reaching a trucker on the interstate is really gonna help so much in either situation whereas a Garmin inreach can contact anyone in the world who has a smartphone or email. Any thoughts ?
When I’m traveling with just my wife I only use the radio for spotting. The rest of the time it’s off. I have a SpotX satellite messenger. Ham radio can be used to contact people in emergencies, but I’d sooner use my satellite messenger.
@@RevereOverland thanks for the input. Glad to know I'm not crazy. A sattelite messenger also does double duty when hiking or kayaking so covers more of my needs with one device
are there different channels for just truckers/ offroaders / marine?
Each type of radio has a frequency that is typically used by certain groups, but there's no official designation. On CB and FRS/GMRS off roaders use either 4 or 16 a lot of the time. On ham it's the frequency 146.460. We're not limited to those though.
FCC new CB FM 2023 I think this is a game changer
GMRS has repeaters as well, and higher power levels. If you look on google for GMRS repeaters, you will find them. I am a ham, and I got a GMRS lic, but I find nobody on GMRS here in Florida, not even on the repeater.
I like GMRS, but the repeaters aren’t nearly as common!
Actually, when any radio antenna is located below the RF ground plane, you loose power by literally transmitting into the ground. So using a rooftop mount antenna, or elevating your antenna, will give you more power--legally. Basic ham radio books will teach you these things.
That didn’t sound much like a Kentucky accent. I would like to talk to you about the GRMS radio service. I live in southeastern ky.
how could a CB radio be used with a smartphone (no WiFi)?
Do you know you have access to repeaters for GMRS as wel?. GMRS also allows for up to 50 watts. The downside to using ham radios for trails is you have a much more formal way of communicating. For someone who just wants to talk back and forth about whatever you want, go with GMRS.
I use a tyt 9800 ham radio.
can you use ham just to communicate with your caravan?
You definitely can. We pick a frequency and talk to each other on it. As with any of these radios, anyone can tune in and listen. Ham users generally won't interrupt, although I've had someone jump in before to tell me a road I was talking about was closed due to a fire!
With CB and FRS you're likely to find someone else talking on the same channel. CB is pretty lawless, and you're likely to be interrupted!
Raymond Tan. yes you can. You can go”Simplex” radio to radio if you’re within the range. Also you can choose a frequency and communicate there.
so where is the test questions for ham license
Where’s the website link for HAM radio test?
www.arrl.org/question-pools
Revere Overland has already noted where the full list of questions and answers are, however I personally found when I was studying that simulated tests were much better. Here are two web sites that will give you a simulated test using random questions from the question pool, exactly the same as the official test you would eventually take. Each test you take will be different, this will allow you to see different questions every time w/o being overwhelmed by the full question pool all at once.
Check out eham.net/exams and hamstudy.org -- the former is what i used to study for all of my tests. (Technician since '95 and Extra since '09)
You forgot to mention that GMRS allows users the ability to use repeaters. Then again, not all GMRS radios are designed for repeater operation. There are some new GMRS Part 95 compliant radios that have repeater capability, but the majority of true GMRS radios are surplus Part 90 equipment used by Public Safety and Businesses.
That's true. They're very rare though! I like the idea of GMRS, and wish it were more common - that's really the only downside to it!
Blew my mind when you said Kentucky. Great video though.
me i have a uniden 980ssb cb in my car i am now studying for my ham license i also have that same baofeng radio but i don't transmit i am getting a mobile ham for my car to. now my cb did come in handy for me when i broke down on the turnpike here in florida, the area i was broke down in didn't have a signal on my phone. so i was able to contact road ranger on my cb to help with my tire because i left my jack at the house.
My cb cost way more than 30 bucks but it will talk 20+miles crystal clear so i guess you get what you pay for
If your CB transmits 20+ miles then you're part of the problem with CB! Also CB does not communicate crystal clear. It simply cannot, and that's one of the downfalls of the 11m band.
@@RevereOverland it dead keys 4 watts but it swings almost 40 :)
Decent vid. Here’s my two cents. UHF and VHF, whether that be frs/gmrs, Ham, or MURS are far superior than CB in nearly all ways except interop with other CB users. So I would get past that and eliminate CB, and focus on what uhf or vhf option is best for you. That’s the hard part, as people’s interest and energy towards radios varies so much. There is no right answer at this point, as there are too many variables.
FWIW, the setup in my Jeep is a yaesu ft-8800r. I didn’t pay close attention to the TYT mobile in your rig, but I think it is a near exact copycat of my yaesu. With my radio, I have access to frs, gmrs, ham, and MURS. I don’t want to hear the wannabe radio police nutters chime in about the legality of having all of that in one radio. Spare us from your egos and spare yourselves the effort, because no one cares, especially the FCC. Just sharing my setup. There really is no right answer for everyone. As I said before, it depends on the user’s skills, interest, and goals.
Again, decent vid. I would have mentioned MURS though.
GMRS all the way.
I bought a ham radio without a license and it worked fine without it 😂
Good short video. I am wrestling with the same issues. Getting my ham license now but want to communicate with family members who don’t have one. So I think the Baofeng radio, which also does the GMRS frequencies is the way to go. Some will bitch about their rights and the costs of licensing. Boo boo. It’s $70 for ten years for the entire family. I bet they blow more than that in a weekend of smoking and drinking. And for those who are afraid of ham tests, you don’t take one for GMRS.
You can also set up a personal repeater with a ham license and set the frequencies so you can increase the range. Pretty cool stuff for those who want to learn and do it the correct and legal way.
You are whining about people concerned about their rights, yet YOU are breaking law. The use you are saying you are planning is also illegal. Beofengs do NOT have Part 95 equipment certification. The usage you describe you on Baofeng units means you are supposed to have a HAM license as well, and that is not merely $70 for the family. It is so funny you bitched about other people not having licenses yet clearly do not understand the licensing requirements of various handsets
@@teo2975 , sadly you have it all wrong. I suggest you reread my comments and also proof read yours. I was just pointing out the situation at that time. I do have a ham license and I do also have the GMRS. Is that clear enough for you? We are legal and I have no issues with paying. My family only uses the GMRS frequencies for communication. So you are wrong. Anyone can own a ham radio, you just need a license to broadcast. But none is needed as a scanner or just listening. But I still laugh at people who whine about paying and how it infringes on their air rights. I guess you are one of them?
@@hammer-r Sadly you are upset and whining at being called out as a hypocrite. You say you want to be 100% legal? Why are you buying a Baofeng? Are they Part 95 equipment certificated? Where is the FCC stamp on it? Admit it, you want to break laws yourself while lecturing others that they have to follow letter of law?
@@teo2975 , what ever makes you happy and sleep at night. Go ahead with your whining. Obviously I’m dealing with someone very ignorant to my needs and uses. And yes I am legal and yes they are sold legally. So go off and bother someone else who doesn’t have a clue like you. But I’ve got the time if you want to continue with your whining.
@@hammer-r LOL, you said you are going to get a license and people should not complain about being legal -- and then showed you actually are going to be illegal yourself. You people who insist government must control everything always end up breaking the rules you say you want.
You could always use exported CB Radios, more channels, cleaner FM channels, and more power. Yes, their technically illegal but we're not talking 500w dead key on popular HAM frequencies that would attract attention.
Which imported radios are you referring to?
You dont need a licence for gmrs if you use low power. Pretty much every handheld does not need a licence.
Also it doesnt matter how good your ham is, if everybody in the group uses CB your gonna be in the dark. I suggest getting the one you think is the best but then making sure you at least have a cheap version of the others.
I think you’re getting GMRS and FRS confused, which is easy enough since they overlap. FRS doesn’t require a license, but to use any GMRS radio does!
I won’t personally be putting a CB in any vehicle again, but for someone joining club rides, it’s not a bad idea.
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I really wish people understood how a CB worked
Stephen Barabas what is it that you think we don’t?
I don't think you guys understand how strong a CB can actually be made.... easily can reach across country on side bands....but not with a $20 radio and a cheap antenna
Stephen Barabas we do understand that, but if everyone you’re riding with didn’t have good CB’s it doesn’t matter. I can take a $30 ham radio and talk across the country and it is clear as day
That's why I dislike CB. Half the people don't have a properly tuned antenna, and the other half have their squelch jacked up to max to cut out people who have illegally modified their CBs.
So it's really not that CB's are crap.... it's that people buy a crap cb and expect good things from it...I can hook my Palomar 250 kicker to my cb (legally) and reach for miles...
Ham is the way to go. CB is a dead technology and I'm actually surprised the bandwidth is still allocated and radios are still being made. My mobile comms setup both a dual band HT and mobile rig as well as a mobile HF rig.
Cb is essentially useless unless your 1 mile or less from your group or your on a huge hill or your running will over the legal 4 watt limit. There is too much interference in am cb frequencies. Just get a yaesu ham radio for a mobile and a baofeng uv5r for a handheld they are both way better than a cb
A peak and tune to a cb is legal
Right, so long as you're not over 4 watts you're fine. You're still not going to have impressive range, and will still have interference.
People who use a CB that is tuned, modified, or amplified to more than 4 watts are breaking the law though.
I could put my 45 watt g m r s radio and everyone will here you hand held radios in a car are less
becuse of the ar frame
You can only talk to them if they have a ham license too and I won’t say the best quality and I wouldn’t say no interference assessment like you’re just trying to make a sales pitch for ham radio it is not always the best choice for the situation sorry to burst your bubble but I’ve had my ham license longer than you and I know.
When getting a cb, don’t be cheap, as a seasoned Cber since 1988, you learn things, one is fcc don’t really care anymore about cb users, thus most of us Cbers don’t use stock radios, also, spend the money on a good antenna and coax, that’s more important than the radio itself, as both a ham operator and Cber, both are fun and both work great providing you’re not cheap about the equipment you buy. Do research into the radios, which ones have good reputations and which do not. I understand you overlander types probably aren’t getting them for the hobby aspect, but do yourself a favor and talk to hobbyists who know a lot about radio, antenna, coax, and even amps. Breaking the speed limit is against the law also, but almost everyone does it, and you most likely have a greater chance of getting caught by the cops speeding than the fcc knocking on your truck door, just food for thought. Good luck 👍🏻
do not get a Galaxy will not last had 2 in the last 8 years of driving semis do not stand up against vibrations and to fix it would have been more to fix then to buy
$30 Jesus
A license is when the government takes away a right, then sells it back to you. Buy the radio you need, and just use it appropriately. This country was founded on civil disobedience. Nobody's hunting you down on back roads for using a radio to check on the rig behind you. A cheap Baofeng UV-5R with a bit of programming is the best bang for the buck.
Just do the right thing and get licensed for Amateur Radio/GMRS. Its cheap and easy to do.
It's $15...
@@bradleyjohnson452 Just because it's the law doesn't mean it's the right thing.
@@kevinstrident That is true, however it is still the law, and they exist to protect the 'rights' that we may have to buy back. Freedom is not free and it is not ours to pick and choose the convenient laws to obey. There is plenty of bandwidth to not infringe on others rights.
Responsible use, with our without a license, deprives no one else of their use of these frequencies. It is a completely victimless crime. And yes, we all choose to disobey many laws each day. Ever exceeded the speed limit or failed to come to a complete stop at a stop sign? Ever have a friend burn you a CD or record songs off the radio on your tape deck? Using these handhelds in the middle of nowhere with their limited range is one of the most harmless things anyone could ever do. There's absolutely no reason to pay anyone for the right to do so.
Your $30 dollar cb is the reason you can’t talk far. I have a cobra 29ltd classic in my work truck and it will talk out five to ten miles. If you don’t want the interference squelch them out. Now I am not denying a ham has better range but for group rides a cb is sufficient. Your handheld ham that you have shown is not legal in the US if you do your homework. I just saw a video on it the other day how it over steps FCC boundaries.
I've been on a ride with you where CB wasn't good enough and no one could understand one another. I personally had a choice of listening to you and other riders, or having no interference. It sucks.
According to the ARRL, the Baofeng radio is legal to own and use on the 2m and 70cm bands as a license holder in the US. The company importing them was not complying with FCC rules, but that doesn't affect the end user.
KY Flatbed Toyota An Hobbies the cb in your truck is great, the problem with CB on group rides is everyone’s has to be that good for them to work, and they never are. However a hand held ham can go across the state with repeaters and be as clear as day.
Ham radio doesn't have type acceptance
Potentially. However, you must realize that the antenna is 90% of the system. Even if you have a $30 radio, it'll perform very well if paired with a 102" whip with a good groundplane.
Or you could not buy a $30 radio...
Why waste my money when there are better options?
When I am out west many miles from roads and I need help, I would rather have a ham radio. No question.
Imagine paying $70 for a license to use GMRS... What a load of nonsense.