It's a pleasant theory, but would be completely out of character for Clay. I think he didn't pass it on because he's possessive and wanted to keep it for herself.
And as we see, Clay was going to be messed up as an adult, no matter what. He was coddled by his mother to unhealthy degrees. And his father shaped his understanding of how “love” shown. I also recommend watching Before Orel after you finish season 3.
This, "Beforel Orel" (yes, 'Beforel') is a wonderful story set up for everything that's about to happen. I usually suggest people to watch it before the series, but this is definitely a good episode to let it come after.
Arthur is honestly such an interesting character in a sense that I don't know what to think about him. If he decided to rise Clay properly after what happened, he would turn out mostly okay. But I don't think he is an entirely bad person which will be shown more later. I don't know if I like him or not.
@@alexf225 I don't think Clay could ever be OK, he's responsible for his mother's death and I think he would have kept pushing his father until he lashed out.
@@TC-th1ey He only pushes his father to get any attention from him. He didn't mea to kill his mother, which obviously doesn't justify i but it doesn't make him (yet) a bad person.
@@alexf225 I see adults in the show mostly seem to be damaged rather than bad per se, he didn't mean to kill her but I do wonder if the trauma from her death is partially responsible for his lack of responsibility, nothing can ever be his fault and he can never be wrong. The episode Sacrifice is coming up, it reveals a great deal about Clay's mindset.
Well, pretty much Clay after his dad says "you're not even worth it" he understands been beaten up as being "worth it". That's why he smiles after being slapped by his dad, and that's why he beats so much Orel, that's the way Clay show ho much he "love" Orel
Yeah lol. I told someone earlier but I actually did bring this up in my reaction. It's in the raw file. I guess for some reason editing CeeAyeJay decided to cut it out in post production 😂
You can very obviously blame Clays father. But Clays mother technically did it to herself. The miscarriages, and babying Clay. She made Clay into that, and his father abused him instead of helping him grow up.
And here we have it. The foundation that helped turn Clay into what he is: 1. It really shows how incredibly isolated and ignorant the people of Morelton are that Clay's mother literally didn't know that you shouldn't smoke, drink and be *minimally* phisically active while pregnant. Her subsequent babying of Clay basically stunted him emotionally. 2. His need to have the attention of a parental figure, which is what caused him to antagonise his father, turned him into a mess once his father realised that hitting Clay was having the opposite effect. 3. "Clay did this to himself" is the perfect way to sum up his character and its why this backstory is so important. Clay knows that it was his dumb decision that resulted in his mother's death and his father despising him. Its basically the crux of his self-hate
Clay is his own worst enemy sure the people around him did no right by him but between Clay’s stupid actions, insecurities and his self destructive habits he can only hate himself more than anyone else in his life
This episode shows clay is also the cause and effect because of his parents bad parenting. Clay suffers from the sins of the mother as well, the drinking and smoking habits. Of course later on without bloberta in his life he was fine but they somehow managed to get to you one way or another. Clay knows he’s responsible for his mothers death. His father just didn’t know how to be a good father. Cause he didn’t get the chance to be one over and over. It also explains his oedipus complex. Clay is the most broken man in moralton. 30% of it is not even his fault, but it was enough to plant the seeds of chaos into his life.
Prior to Bloberta meeting Clay he didn't seem interested in socialising or helping/harming others. He seemed content and didn't interfere in other peoples lives. I don't blame Bloberta for Clay's future as she couldn't know the results of her actions but without her he wouldn't be the man we know today.
@@TC-th1ey yes you can blame bloberta. For half of the shit she is. Her desperation ruined his and her life. Clay was gas lighted and manipulated into marriage. Of course clay is still mostly responsible and accountable for his actions but she planted the seed of misery into him.
@@Eggette She did, but in her previous experience with her father drinking gives him the courage to talk to his daughter. In this way she thought she was helping Clay.
This episode shows that since he sees physical punishment as affection (due to his father hitting him) , in a way whenever Clay was punishing Orel, it was in his own messed up way to say that he does care about Orel, and that he is worth it. ( From his father’s words )
He does care about orel, in his own twisted way atleast. That's why he took orel to that cursed hunting trip, because his father never took him to one.
@Ray-hx3rm I'll be 100% honest I did bring that up in the reaction. If I could show you the raw recording it's literally right there lol. Now, why didn't I put that in the video? GREAT question. Editing CeeAyeJay and recording CeeAyeJay are 2 completely different people 😂 (aka I decided to stay up all night editing and must've gotten tired 😅)
It's so frickin funny you say this because I actually did say this in the raw recording. But I must've thought during editing it was too much of a stretch and decided to cut it out.
Imagine being the reason your mother had a heart attack and died and your dad resenting you for it, to the point where the only physical touch you get from him is when he hits you.
This episode makes me upset they canceled the show because the 2nd half of season 3 was supposed to be Clay's dad coming to moralton to make up with Clay in his dying moments.
This episode always gets me because it really recontextualizes turn the other cheek. After getting beaten half to death by Orel is the only time he doesn’t hit him as a punishment, and Orels response of assuming it’s because clay is giving up on him is so heartbreaking and the closest we get to see clay actually be a good parent. The way you can clearly see the moment it clicks for Clays father too, that he picks up “oh he wants this” and then leaves. And Orel disappointing clay on purpose by denying him violence in claiming he didn’t shoot the bear. Clay never hitting shapey for his behavior the way he does Orel because Orel is actually his. I’m insane about it.
Hey cee , if u ever do that tier list for the best moral orel episode , u should stream it on either twitch or yt , so we can add our input on certain episodes
Also after finishing Morel Orel, there’s actually 3 more episodes that you can watch too, 2 of them being unreleased from adult swim, while one is, it’s called “Before Orel”, and it features Clay’s Dad ( Orel’s grandpa) with Orel and what they were planning for season 3.
@@henryboi_heheyep they were unreleased by adult swim however the team had already made the script and voice acted them out ( although not perfect ), they’re called Narcissism and Abstinence, available on RUclips
6:51 Attention of course , is what makes a mother treat her son the way Clay's mother treated her son. The first time I saw that part I remember feeling bad for Clay, for the fact that his own mother had made him so dependent that he would do those things for attention alone
This show is a masterpiece. It’s like in EVERY episode you can FEEL the trauma and the hurt and all the pain that the characters are going through. It’s like you can SEE them break.
I believe it was the emotional toll of Clay's mom's miscarriages that pushed her farther into bad habits (drinking and smoking) and this also put stress on Clay's dad, who had to have been aware of what was happening, and it slowly pushed them further and further apart, and when Clay was born his mom spoiled and coddled him, and Clay's dad's disapproval of this led to the straining his relationship with Clay (and it was sealed with his mother's death) and further kicked the dead horse of Clay's parents' relationship.
This episode is kind of relatable. I had a sister who didn't make it, and my mom always had trouble talking about it because of how depressed it made her.
Don’t worry Cee, not only will we see how Moral acts after the camping trip, but we’ll also get to know what Clay does for a living. I don’t want to spoil anything but it explains a lot. Just keep waiting. The light at the end of the tunnel is getting closer and closer
Clay only did what he did because his mother coddled him to a point where either he was loved or he wasn't. If the focus wasn't on him or if she showed love to someone else, then he isn't loved. Once they started going back over pictures of previous siblings, he realized his Mom loved those kids as well. And as I just mentioned, if she shows love to someone else, Clay takes that as him not being loved so he goes to the extreme to get that love back. However, after that many miscarriages, I believe any mother would coddle their only living child to that degree. Then again, she caused the miscarriages herself by smoking and drinking. This is one of the episodes that show life is just fucked up in Moralton, every action, no matter how small or long ago, has effects on the town and its people to the present
Now you realize in his very disturbing way clay beating oral is his way to care anything is better than being ignored Also the father is also responsible for the death of his wife by giving him the gun Clay love Orel but his love is pure toxicity Also to bring back to last episode clay may have messed up as a kid but before bloberta he was descent so he did passed pass this in some way it’s just that having to live with someone you hate broke him again
One of the things that I love about this season is that it was starting to pick up on cycles of abuse and trauma. I suspect that the show was leading to us seeing how Oral would help break the cycle of abuse and trauma on his own journey of growth.
Clay is responsible for his actions but his narcissistic behavior from childhood itself is because his mother coddled him and his dad never bothered to intervene. He was made this way and then made the choice to double down.
You might as well buckle up and/or strap in and/or mentally brace for the before/during hunting trip flashbacks. They aren't stopping. Even through the last episode, there will be wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey stuff.
My father's parents didn't really had a miscarriage but when my dad's brother was born there were immediate troubles. He had sadly died shortly after but gave me his brother's would've been name. He gave it as a middle name
And THIS, is where you see his actual formation. Clay formed his narcissism, intense sense of entitlement, and association of physical violence with parental affection. Here we also see his religious upbringing, including his it was used to excuse things he didn't want to do. And we see the addictive personality passed down, from mother to son.
I don’t talk about it often because it was a very traumatizing event, but 2 years back, my mom had a miscarriage, and it’s been one of those topics that hurts to think of.
Lowkey when I first saw this. I cried badly. The scene where clay fakes his death resulting in his mother dying. Hit home. I miss my mom everyday but I thank god for my adoptive family which I call my family now. Honestly i really just felt the fathers anger of “not being able to see her again”
this might be me being messed up but clay is by far my favorite character in moral orel so seeing a child clay episode is so fuckin cool to me because i somehow relate with clays actions sometimes so seeing where he came from is really interesting
I didn’t realize this until after I finished the segment, but the part where Clay’s mother says she “couldn’t even find time to have a highball” is a call back to Clay’s (assuming) first alcoholic beverage with Bloblerta. Bloberta asked for two highballs. The fact that was Clay’s first drink and the fact it was probably his mothers drink of choice is an amazing detail.
clay's mother taught him to be inmature; bloberta to be an alcoholic; his father to perceive abuse as affection; and religion to justify himself because "im an an autorithy figure, the head of the house and a good cristian". Clay is a great example on how society can create a monster.
Dude, hearing Clay’s mom talk about her previous children that didn’t make it and then we hear about all the activities she used to engage in.. It was like a slow, sinking realization that she had unknowingly caused the deaths of all of her unborn children.. Jesus Christ, someone should’ve told this women the “do’s and don’ts” of being pregnant.. would’ve saved her so much pain
I know it sounds weird but when clay realised he had 10 siblings it gave me flashback of my life. I currently have 11 siblings but i only found out about 8 of them recently, i didnt even realise i had multiple because of my father being a bad parent
I love your content and I think you’re way better than spilling the milk, you don’t interrupt almost every 30 seconds and also understand what’s going on in the episode especially with the disturbing episodes of moral Orel
That ending part really hits in the feels. The dad just gives up on him, hes not even get the "physical affection" he craves. And for the dad to switch the guns bc the pain is still there. It would hit deeper if Clay was a good father though
Me and my partner had a miscarriage and it was heartbreaking. We did everything we could. We have a beautiful daughter on the way now and I hope and pray for the best with her continued growth. She’s my world already.
You are looking at Clay through the eyes of an adult. Clay was a child who was not only coddled to the point of developmental atrophy but also came to associate love with physical abuse. However, the dagger is his father giving up on him all together. That is the trifecta of creating a toxic character like Clay. Im not say Clay shouldn't be responsible for the horrible things he has said and done but there is no question the his parents are to blame for him become who he is. His wife will be the dagger that destroys Clay entirely. Honestly, Clay never stood a chance. That is too much trauma for most people to push through. This is what makes Orel so amazing cuz dispite his family, and that town, Orel turned out wonderful.
Something the notice that’s a small detail that fans put together over the years was clay legs getting hit it shows from his dad cares about him so when he hits moral or even when moral hits him, he enjoys it in the way that his son loves him. (I saw this on Reddit)
This is what I feel the show was perfect at, it never tried to "excuse" clays actions with this backstory, just give you the understanding of how someone this heavily irresponsible could come to be and between this episode and the last, gives a better insight to why him and bloberta haven't split, bloberta played off the same kinda dynamic he had with his mother for long enough to make clay believe he needed her, while simultaneously spreading his own toxic breed of abusive love he got from his father's reaction
It's also likely the swap from a overbearing, overprotective style of parenting from his irresponsible mom followed by the borderline nonexistent parenting from his father made him never learn proper responsibility
I was supposed to have a sibling too, much love to all mothers and parents ❤ Also, clay sought out for attention and his father hitting him made him feel like he cared enough to do so
We learn more of how Clay becomes Clay in the true finale Before Oral. This is just the stepping stones. Also Clay getting hit by his father is Clays idea of being shown love, being worth it. Which is why Clay hits Oral. It's Clays way of showing his love to his son.
the reason season 3 has a lot of flashbacks is because season 4 & 5 were meant to focus on the people and the show would be renamed Moralton but they got cancelled so they used some of the season 4 & 5 plotlines. season 3 was meant to have Orel questions god and become emo and lead into becoming less about Orel and more about the town
smoking and drinking during pregnancy were both normalized when clay’s parents were trying for a baby. there’s cigarette advertisements from the 50s using “a slim baby” as a reason to encourage it during pregnancy
I have a little sibling in Heaven as well. I was young when it happened and my dad had to explain in a way that I could understand. Fortunately my mother never did anything that Angela did and it was just…something that happened. I was FURIOUS when I saw that she was so careless with herself and her unborn children.
So Clay internalized being hit as being worth the attention and an act of showing love. This is why he only spanks Orel and not shapey or block. This even shows up later in a scene I won't spoil with Clay wanting people to hit him
If you're still wondering why the mom was so cold towards him, its because losing all those babies scared her and after successfully having clay she basically closed herself off from romance and intimacy, her version of birth control.
This one messed me up cause this is literally my life story in a nutshell, having a mom that wanted ten kids an did drugs an smoked just for every other child to ya know. God I feel so bad for Clay when he heard about those other siblings, poor guy
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what if clay didnt give him the gun bc he didnt want the cycle to continue
Wait, hold up. You're a f*cking genius 😮
Wait a minute.. LET THEM COOK 💯🔥🔥⁉️⁉️
@@juggalozz actually let them cook 😮
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It's a pleasant theory, but would be completely out of character for Clay. I think he didn't pass it on because he's possessive and wanted to keep it for herself.
And as we see, Clay was going to be messed up as an adult, no matter what. He was coddled by his mother to unhealthy degrees. And his father shaped his understanding of how “love” shown.
I also recommend watching Before Orel after you finish season 3.
This, "Beforel Orel" (yes, 'Beforel') is a wonderful story set up for everything that's about to happen. I usually suggest people to watch it before the series, but this is definitely a good episode to let it come after.
Arthur is honestly such an interesting character in a sense that I don't know what to think about him. If he decided to rise Clay properly after what happened, he would turn out mostly okay. But I don't think he is an entirely bad person which will be shown more later. I don't know if I like him or not.
@@alexf225 I don't think Clay could ever be OK, he's responsible for his mother's death and I think he would have kept pushing his father until he lashed out.
@@TC-th1ey He only pushes his father to get any attention from him. He didn't mea to kill his mother, which obviously doesn't justify i but it doesn't make him (yet) a bad person.
@@alexf225 I see adults in the show mostly seem to be damaged rather than bad per se, he didn't mean to kill her but I do wonder if the trauma from her death is partially responsible for his lack of responsibility, nothing can ever be his fault and he can never be wrong.
The episode Sacrifice is coming up, it reveals a great deal about Clay's mindset.
Well, pretty much Clay after his dad says "you're not even worth it" he understands been beaten up as being "worth it". That's why he smiles after being slapped by his dad, and that's why he beats so much Orel, that's the way Clay show ho much he "love" Orel
Yeah lol. I told someone earlier but I actually did bring this up in my reaction. It's in the raw file. I guess for some reason editing CeeAyeJay decided to cut it out in post production 😂
You can very obviously blame Clays father. But Clays mother technically did it to herself. The miscarriages, and babying Clay. She made Clay into that, and his father abused him instead of helping him grow up.
Plus I'm sure the smoking and drinking didn't help her health/heart any. She might not have hamburger timed if she had refrained.
And here we have it. The foundation that helped turn Clay into what he is:
1. It really shows how incredibly isolated and ignorant the people of Morelton are that Clay's mother literally didn't know that you shouldn't smoke, drink and be *minimally* phisically active while pregnant. Her subsequent babying of Clay basically stunted him emotionally.
2. His need to have the attention of a parental figure, which is what caused him to antagonise his father, turned him into a mess once his father realised that hitting Clay was having the opposite effect.
3. "Clay did this to himself" is the perfect way to sum up his character and its why this backstory is so important. Clay knows that it was his dumb decision that resulted in his mother's death and his father despising him.
Its basically the crux of his self-hate
Clay is his own worst enemy sure the people around him did no right by him but between Clay’s stupid actions, insecurities and his self destructive habits he can only hate himself more than anyone else in his life
This episode shows clay is also the cause and effect because of his parents bad parenting. Clay suffers from the sins of the mother as well, the drinking and smoking habits. Of course later on without bloberta in his life he was fine but they somehow managed to get to you one way or another. Clay knows he’s responsible for his mothers death. His father just didn’t know how to be a good father. Cause he didn’t get the chance to be one over and over. It also explains his oedipus complex. Clay is the most broken man in moralton. 30% of it is not even his fault, but it was enough to plant the seeds of chaos into his life.
Prior to Bloberta meeting Clay he didn't seem interested in socialising or helping/harming others. He seemed content and didn't interfere in other peoples lives. I don't blame Bloberta for Clay's future as she couldn't know the results of her actions but without her he wouldn't be the man we know today.
@@TC-th1ey yes you can blame bloberta. For half of the shit she is. Her desperation ruined his and her life. Clay was gas lighted and manipulated into marriage. Of course clay is still mostly responsible and accountable for his actions but she planted the seed of misery into him.
@@TC-th1eyShe did get him to start drinking
@@Eggette She did, but in her previous experience with her father drinking gives him the courage to talk to his daughter.
In this way she thought she was helping Clay.
This episode shows that since he sees physical punishment as affection (due to his father hitting him) , in a way whenever Clay was punishing Orel, it was in his own messed up way to say that he does care about Orel, and that he is worth it. ( From his father’s words )
Yes! I’m surprised he didn’t make that connection in this video
He does care about orel, in his own twisted way atleast. That's why he took orel to that cursed hunting trip, because his father never took him to one.
@Ray-hx3rm I'll be 100% honest I did bring that up in the reaction. If I could show you the raw recording it's literally right there lol. Now, why didn't I put that in the video? GREAT question. Editing CeeAyeJay and recording CeeAyeJay are 2 completely different people 😂 (aka I decided to stay up all night editing and must've gotten tired 😅)
@@CeeAyeJay fair ‘nuff
And it also shows that Clay has no love for Shapey because he never hits him
6:34 notice how the mom said “there are no mistakes” like how clay said it during the forest episode
It's so frickin funny you say this because I actually did say this in the raw recording. But I must've thought during editing it was too much of a stretch and decided to cut it out.
Imagine being the reason your mother had a heart attack and died and your dad resenting you for it, to the point where the only physical touch you get from him is when he hits you.
This episode makes me upset they canceled the show because the 2nd half of season 3 was supposed to be Clay's dad coming to moralton to make up with Clay in his dying moments.
And it was even gonna have Orel go through an emo phase.
@@jellybelly8672 Emo Orel is amazing imagery
He was also gonna give Oral all his money but also explain why is dad is so fucked up
This episode absolutely killed me, seeing clay so innocent makes me so sad to see orel suffer from bad parenting
This episode always gets me because it really recontextualizes turn the other cheek. After getting beaten half to death by Orel is the only time he doesn’t hit him as a punishment, and Orels response of assuming it’s because clay is giving up on him is so heartbreaking and the closest we get to see clay actually be a good parent. The way you can clearly see the moment it clicks for Clays father too, that he picks up “oh he wants this” and then leaves. And Orel disappointing clay on purpose by denying him violence in claiming he didn’t shoot the bear. Clay never hitting shapey for his behavior the way he does Orel because Orel is actually his. I’m insane about it.
Hey cee , if u ever do that tier list for the best moral orel episode , u should stream it on either twitch or yt , so we can add our input on certain episodes
yeah boi
do not spell orels name like that😭
@@lesbianism6969like what?
@@ARCADE_OBSESSION oral
I think a tier list of characters would be dope
Also after finishing Morel Orel, there’s actually 3 more episodes that you can watch too, 2 of them being unreleased from adult swim, while one is, it’s called “Before Orel”, and it features Clay’s Dad ( Orel’s grandpa) with Orel and what they were planning for season 3.
Wait, 2 unreleased ones? I thought it was only one.
@@henryboi_heheyep they were unreleased by adult swim however the team had already made the script and voice acted them out ( although not perfect ), they’re called Narcissism and Abstinence, available on RUclips
@@nat1291are they canon?
@@kwayneboy1524 ya, it’s made by the team themselves
This would also explain clay’s addiction problems, since it has been proved that addictive tendencies have a hereditary factor
6:51 Attention of course , is what makes a mother treat her son the way Clay's mother treated her son. The first time I saw that part I remember feeling bad for Clay, for the fact that his own mother had made him so dependent that he would do those things for attention alone
And the fact that Clay saw his dad hitting him as affection, and that's how he treats Orel.
This show is a masterpiece. It’s like in EVERY episode you can FEEL the trauma and the hurt and all the pain that the characters are going through. It’s like you can SEE them break.
I recommend you to watch the episode where little Oral interacts with his grampa. It gives a lot of back story and Oral it's flipping cute 🥺❤😊
Beforel Orel, its such a heartstring tugging episode/special.. makes you feel sorry for the puppington family more if anything
I believe it was the emotional toll of Clay's mom's miscarriages that pushed her farther into bad habits (drinking and smoking) and this also put stress on Clay's dad, who had to have been aware of what was happening, and it slowly pushed them further and further apart, and when Clay was born his mom spoiled and coddled him, and Clay's dad's disapproval of this led to the straining his relationship with Clay (and it was sealed with his mother's death) and further kicked the dead horse of Clay's parents' relationship.
This episode is kind of relatable. I had a sister who didn't make it, and my mom always had trouble talking about it because of how depressed it made her.
Don’t worry Cee, not only will we see how Moral acts after the camping trip, but we’ll also get to know what Clay does for a living. I don’t want to spoil anything but it explains a lot. Just keep waiting. The light at the end of the tunnel is getting closer and closer
0:58 my inner gun collector is shaking his head and thinking how can you confuse a Glock with an M1911
Same
@@turtlex5610 I'll be honest whenever I see a small hand pew pew I usually call it a "Glock" 😅
@CeeAyeJay understandable there's some firearms I don't recognize, but always a positive to learn more 👍🏼
Clay only did what he did because his mother coddled him to a point where either he was loved or he wasn't. If the focus wasn't on him or if she showed love to someone else, then he isn't loved. Once they started going back over pictures of previous siblings, he realized his Mom loved those kids as well. And as I just mentioned, if she shows love to someone else, Clay takes that as him not being loved so he goes to the extreme to get that love back. However, after that many miscarriages, I believe any mother would coddle their only living child to that degree. Then again, she caused the miscarriages herself by smoking and drinking. This is one of the episodes that show life is just fucked up in Moralton, every action, no matter how small or long ago, has effects on the town and its people to the present
It's not more traumatizing than Christmas dinner with my family (political debate)
Episode 9 is my personal favorite. Can't wait to see your reaction. Also, we finally get to see more of the aftermath of the hunting trip.
As someone who miscarried my first baby at a quite young thank you I felt so worthless because of it
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Now you realize in his very disturbing way clay beating oral is his way to care anything is better than being ignored
Also the father is also responsible for the death of his wife by giving him the gun
Clay love Orel but his love is pure toxicity
Also to bring back to last episode clay may have messed up as a kid but before bloberta he was descent so he did passed pass this in some way it’s just that having to live with someone you hate broke him again
One of the things that I love about this season is that it was starting to pick up on cycles of abuse and trauma. I suspect that the show was leading to us seeing how Oral would help break the cycle of abuse and trauma on his own journey of growth.
Clay is responsible for his actions but his narcissistic behavior from childhood itself is because his mother coddled him and his dad never bothered to intervene. He was made this way and then made the choice to double down.
You might as well buckle up and/or strap in and/or mentally brace for the before/during hunting trip flashbacks. They aren't stopping. Even through the last episode, there will be wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey stuff.
My father's parents didn't really had a miscarriage but when my dad's brother was born there were immediate troubles. He had sadly died shortly after but gave me his brother's would've been name. He gave it as a middle name
Once you finish moral orel and then watch before orel it makes you feel so much better because how wholesome it is
Cee your videos are always a treat, thanks for being you
My pleasure!
And THIS, is where you see his actual formation.
Clay formed his narcissism, intense sense of entitlement, and association of physical violence with parental affection.
Here we also see his religious upbringing, including his it was used to excuse things he didn't want to do. And we see the addictive personality passed down, from mother to son.
I don’t talk about it often because it was a very traumatizing event, but 2 years back, my mom had a miscarriage, and it’s been one of those topics that hurts to think of.
Lowkey when I first saw this. I cried badly. The scene where clay fakes his death resulting in his mother dying. Hit home. I miss my mom everyday but I thank god for my adoptive family which I call my family now. Honestly i really just felt the fathers anger of “not being able to see her again”
If a child is denied attention from their parents they will do anything to receive it even if the attention they receive isn't positive.
this might be me being messed up but clay is by far my favorite character in moral orel so seeing a child clay episode is so fuckin cool to me because i somehow relate with clays actions sometimes so seeing where he came from is really interesting
I didn’t realize this until after I finished the segment, but the part where Clay’s mother says she “couldn’t even find time to have a highball” is a call back to Clay’s (assuming) first alcoholic beverage with Bloblerta. Bloberta asked for two highballs. The fact that was Clay’s first drink and the fact it was probably his mothers drink of choice is an amazing detail.
“Another day, another Moral Orel.”
Words to stand by
I showed this show to my family and they thought I was crazy. But clay did have a rough child hood dealing with his mother
clay's mother taught him to be inmature; bloberta to be an alcoholic; his father to perceive abuse as affection; and religion to justify himself because "im an an autorithy figure, the head of the house and a good cristian". Clay is a great example on how society can create a monster.
Clay is probs one of my fav characters, unironicaly, I just love tragic characters
Dude, hearing Clay’s mom talk about her previous children that didn’t make it and then we hear about all the activities she used to engage in.. It was like a slow, sinking realization that she had unknowingly caused the deaths of all of her unborn children.. Jesus Christ, someone should’ve told this women the “do’s and don’ts” of being pregnant.. would’ve saved her so much pain
"I wonder if this episode's going to be lighthearted, because the last was pretty damn sad. " *His last words.*
0:57 G- G.. Glock? That is, sinful.. that is clearly a Browning M1911A1 (I have the curse of knowledge)
I know it sounds weird but when clay realised he had 10 siblings it gave me flashback of my life. I currently have 11 siblings but i only found out about 8 of them recently, i didnt even realise i had multiple because of my father being a bad parent
"Dad made me hold a gun! :D"
Clay...😂
Finally I really wanted him to watch this episode
Funny how a seemingly harmless prank can set up a chain reaction that will forever change the outcome.
I love your content and I think you’re way better than spilling the milk, you don’t interrupt almost every 30 seconds and also understand what’s going on in the episode especially with the disturbing episodes of moral Orel
I honestly love watching this series where he reacts to moral orel episodes in the morning
Thanks! I try to get them out early but sometimes editing CeeAyeJay likes to procrastinate 😅
@@CeeAyeJay lmao it’s alright
That ending part really hits in the feels. The dad just gives up on him, hes not even get the "physical affection" he craves. And for the dad to switch the guns bc the pain is still there. It would hit deeper if Clay was a good father though
Me and my partner had a miscarriage and it was heartbreaking. We did everything we could. We have a beautiful daughter on the way now and I hope and pray for the best with her continued growth. She’s my world already.
You are looking at Clay through the eyes of an adult. Clay was a child who was not only coddled to the point of developmental atrophy but also came to associate love with physical abuse. However, the dagger is his father giving up on him all together. That is the trifecta of creating a toxic character like Clay. Im not say Clay shouldn't be responsible for the horrible things he has said and done but there is no question the his parents are to blame for him become who he is. His wife will be the dagger that destroys Clay entirely. Honestly, Clay never stood a chance. That is too much trauma for most people to push through. This is what makes Orel so amazing cuz dispite his family, and that town, Orel turned out wonderful.
You know I never thought about it like that. I mean, yeah, Clay was a child still growing mentally. Good comment 👍
Boy, I saw a summary of the show, and I'll just say that you will have your mind blown by the next episodes.
Also, dont watch the summary. You'll spoil the show
I find it chilling how clay was a lot like Orel before he met Blobertta
Thats a Golden M1911, Not a Glock.
Something the notice that’s a small detail that fans put together over the years was clay legs getting hit it shows from his dad cares about him so when he hits moral or even when moral hits him, he enjoys it in the way that his son loves him.
(I saw this on Reddit)
The minecraft clay crafting was 10/10, well done
There's also a theory i heared that Clay punishes only Orel by spanking him, because it's his way of showing affection.
This is what I feel the show was perfect at, it never tried to "excuse" clays actions with this backstory, just give you the understanding of how someone this heavily irresponsible could come to be and between this episode and the last, gives a better insight to why him and bloberta haven't split, bloberta played off the same kinda dynamic he had with his mother for long enough to make clay believe he needed her, while simultaneously spreading his own toxic breed of abusive love he got from his father's reaction
It's also likely the swap from a overbearing, overprotective style of parenting from his irresponsible mom followed by the borderline nonexistent parenting from his father made him never learn proper responsibility
I was supposed to have a sibling too, much love to all mothers and parents ❤
Also, clay sought out for attention and his father hitting him made him feel like he cared enough to do so
0:58 that looks like a golden 1911 that he might of gotten in a promotion pack for one of the CoDs
On the camping trip, when Clay's alcohol got shoot, clay said "there is no mistakes", the same thing that clays mother said when clay "shot himself"
0:30 “so now we’ve gone back to the normal happy intro…this episode might be more lighthearted since the last one was sad”
Last famous words 😂
And then Clay beat Orel, because on some level he thought his son was "worth it."
Every gun owner is about to overreact to him. Calling a 1911 a glock
Yep, you're right. You're the 7th person so far 😅 look if it isn't a AK or a Uzi then it's a "Glock" in my eyes lol
We learn more of how Clay becomes Clay in the true finale Before Oral. This is just the stepping stones.
Also Clay getting hit by his father is Clays idea of being shown love, being worth it. Which is why Clay hits Oral. It's Clays way of showing his love to his son.
Despite Shapey and Block bit being Clays kids, they were all babied and neglected as children. How interesting
the reason season 3 has a lot of flashbacks is because season 4 & 5 were meant to focus on the people and the show would be renamed Moralton but they got cancelled so they used some of the season 4 & 5 plotlines. season 3 was meant to have Orel questions god and become emo and lead into becoming less about Orel and more about the town
"is that a gold glock?" Wait, so a 1911 is now a glock?
“He has a golden glock?!?” Proceeds to zoom into a 1911
0:55 that AINT NO GLOCK 😭 💀
Finally, another CeeAyeJay upload, you are my favorite Series Watching RUclips by far!
Wow, thanks! This really made my day.
The two golden pistols from what I can see is A USA 1911 looks like a 45 ACP and A WW2 Germany Po8 LUGER chambered in 9×19mm
I thought that the other one was the starting pistol from Black Ops 2 zombies Origins 😅 (jokes aside you really know your stuff. Good sh*t)
"Wisconsin?...Nobody lives in Wisconsin, that's a flat out lie" - Jason Alexander
Moral orel just hits different
Yeah.. KINDA LIKE CLAY'S FATHE- nevermind I'll stop
I hear u on the Wisconsin weather lmao 🤣 and Morel Orel is one of the shows I wish was brought back
As a gun enthusiast ceejay calling a m1911a1 a “Glock “ physically hurt me
Lol I usually just call everything that isn't a AK and Uzi a "Glock" 😅
It's been in the negatives for the past few days, I can confirm it is indeed very cold
All the puppingnton problems are because of bluberta and clay's mother
My man, I’m right with you. It’s crazy cold in Wisconsin right now and my will to leave the apartment is almost non-existent 😔
This is the only only episode that made me cry.
Just got done watching the Bloberta one about an hour ago! Commented talking about this one, kickass!
"does this guy have a golden glock" *internal screaming* its a 1911 if you didnt know
smoking and drinking during pregnancy were both normalized when clay’s parents were trying for a baby. there’s cigarette advertisements from the 50s using “a slim baby” as a reason to encourage it during pregnancy
I have a little sibling in Heaven as well. I was young when it happened and my dad had to explain in a way that I could understand. Fortunately my mother never did anything that Angela did and it was just…something that happened. I was FURIOUS when I saw that she was so careless with herself and her unborn children.
So Clay internalized being hit as being worth the attention and an act of showing love. This is why he only spanks Orel and not shapey or block. This even shows up later in a scene I won't spoil with Clay wanting people to hit him
Bro called the golden M1911 a golden Glock...
"how did clay turn into clay?"
very very good question we will see😋
If you're still wondering why the mom was so cold towards him, its because losing all those babies scared her and after successfully having clay she basically closed herself off from romance and intimacy, her version of birth control.
This is the eps that started it all
Because as he got older, he got a bit wiser and realised maby part of his fault in it...
Only for his wife to turn him into alchoholic.
True but Clay chose to be awful with others
Gotta love that negative to 10 degree weather
A GOLDEN GLOCKKKK?!?!?!?! THAT'S A 1911 MY GUY
one day you will run out of Moral Orel episodes to watch and then the struggle shall come
This one messed me up cause this is literally my life story in a nutshell, having a mom that wanted ten kids an did drugs an smoked just for every other child to ya know. God I feel so bad for Clay when he heard about those other siblings, poor guy
Just so you know. The next two episodes you might not "hate" but definitely annoy you.