Kelly Hansen of FOREIGNER Speaks Out!
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- Kelly Hansen of FOREIGNER Speaks Out! #foreigner #rockandrollhalloffame
Hey everyone!
Tonight I cover an interview by FOREIGNER’s current lead singer Kelly Hansen! In that interview he broaches the subject of The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, and why the Rock band FOREIGNER aren’t in it, never even being on a nomination list!
I’ll tie that in with what Lou Gramm has said regarding a clash that happened between the Band and Jann Wenner of Rolling Stone Magazine, and the then Chairman of the board of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Should FOREIGNER be inducted to the hall? If so, which band members should be on that invitation list? Are all band members of FOREIGNER created equal?
Well, all these and many more questions are addressed in tonight’s video!
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Foreigner not in the Hall of Shame should surprise me, but sadly doesn’t anymore. Such is the sorry state of that pathetic institution. But you know where I stand on the RnRHOF, Michael. 🤬
Whether us rock fans like it or not, brand names will continue to far outlive actual members. Such is the corporatization of rock music. So the interesting question I ask myself is if there is legitimacy in the spirit, ethos, and style of a band/brand regardless of membership? Is this a valid question for certain bands, but completely invalid for others (such as the Beatles or Led Zeppelin who are irreplaceable on every conceivable level)? There was a time where I wouldn’t even humor such questions, but examples like the new Yes album further complicate things. Food for thought. 🤔
Wow! Hood question Bruce! Mirror to the Sky has got me re-thinking what the band YES is!
I’m sooo confused! 😜😂🎉❤
BTW, I really enjoyed your latest thoughts on latest video Bruce! So much said in under 7 minutes was such a info-packed easily view brother!
Hey everyone check out his video! Seriously well worth the peruse! ruclips.net/video/in6jgCaAehY/видео.html
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine I really appreciate it, Michael. Love the tight-knit music-loving community we get to be part of. Your support is always meaningful. 🙏🏼
@@BruceColon-BSidesAlways Bruce!❤❤❤
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Yes is Another Cover Band at this Point - total Bullshit...@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine
Foreigner should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame! Absolutely!!
Of course I agree robert! Good call brother! ❤❤❤
You're spot on; Foreigner should be in but only the 5. I wouldn't go see them once without Lou
The fact that the current lineup is touring does nothing to diminish the fact that the original band created this great music.
I think their first album is still there finest werk
I just saw Foreigner August 2 at Jones Beach no original member were there not even Mick Jones. Foreigner should be in the hall of fame but the original members Lou Gramm , Mick Jones ect... Foreigner 1 - 4 . Today it's a cover band they are good but not Foreigner.
I agree lopmheart!❤❤❤
@@JPM1942I'd accept that everyone still alive in Foreigner is allowed to be celebrated in the Rock Hall because Kelly Hansen and Jeff Pilson have kept the band on tour with Mick Jones. Induct the dead members posthumously of course.
Just induct everyone in the band similar to the Eagles when everyone from Glenn Frey to Timothy Schmitt is allowed in despite Timothy only being a hired gun.
@Thomasmemoryscentral Thomas Mick Jones is not touring with present band. He doesn't come on stage. This is probably why they are doing their final tour. Without the founder they really can't continue.
It's sad not to see Lou singing for this band again. This is one of my favorite rock band.
I don't think Lou can sing well enough to be there right now
The question as to whether FOREIGNER should be admitted into the ludicrous R&RHoF is axiomatic...of course.
The current FOREIGNER band is, like YES, a tribute band. FOREIGNER is not FOREIGNER without Lou Gramm.
Can recall Michael's top 10 bands of jukebox heroes to jukebox zeros video randomly recommended to me last year maybe September 2022 and he said at the time that when he last checked, there isnt a single original band member left there in Foreigner.
At least Steve Howe bothers to show up more than 20 minutes for Yes compared to Mick Jones
@@Thomasmemoryscentral Good point.
And that about says it for me as well Eric! No Lou, no Loot! ❤❤❤
The original members from the first 5 albums are the ones that did it all. They should be the ones inducted.
Absolutely
The following Foreigner members should be inducted, when that time comes:
Lou Gramm, Mick Jones, Ian McDonald, Al Greenwood, Ed Gagliardi, Dennis Elliott, and Rick Wills. Nobody else.
Original members from the first 5. That's the band. That's the band from where all the hits came from that made them great, and worthy of induction. I can't see why there would be a question - it's obvious to thinking people.
As far as I'm concerned, when the current Foreigner lineup plays it's actually just a really good Foreigner tribute band with special guest Mick Jones.
Michael, I think we, as music enthusiasts, have to accept the fact that the RRHOF has been hijacked by a smug group of opportunists and this situation is not going to resolve itself anytime soon. We have to take comfort in the fact that this tribe knows the score. The real Hall of Fame lies with us and not some ugly building in Cleveland, Ohio.
Well said! In our hearts they are already there!
Great video Brother! Oh yes, Foreigner belong in the Rock And Roll Hall Of Shame, I mean Fame! haha! But if they do, the original line up should play at the ceremony. I saw Kelly Hansen years ago with his first band Hurricane open for Stryper and they were great. I also saw Bassist Jeff Pilson with Dokken twice years ago too, and they were great too. Both awesome musicians. I did see Foreigner with Kelly and Jeff before the pandemic, and Mick Jones did play the whole show that night. It was at Saratoga Performing Arts Center in Saratoga, NY. They did sound awesome. I met Lou Graham in 1991 at a Rock Expo in Albany, NY, and he was a super cool guy. Best wishes always Brother! ❤
Foreigner (the original band members) should definitely be in RRHOF. Let’s not forget the hit Double Vision, amongst the many others.
Foreigner should be in the RRHOF, with timeless hits like "I WANT TO KNOW WHAT LOVE IS", "COLD AS ICE", "FEELS LIKE THE FIRST TIME", and so many others they are more than deserving. As usual politics eventually plays a major roll in most organizations in the absolute worst way.
It was more important to have Dolly Parton, Missy Elliot, Janet Jackson, Eminem. Hopefully a future inductee will call out the charade of calling it R&RHOF when it needs to be renamed Music Hall Of Fame
LOL! Yeah it a travesty MOLi! Good to hear from you! ❤❤❤
It's all political , it's all illegitimate , don't mean two shits to me
I think like most of these shoes these days Grammys Oscars, rock ‘n’ roll Hall of Fame’s popularity contests
I agree with you Michael. The current band has monster talent, but I don't consider them to be Foreigner. They should definitely tour as a tribute band IMO.
Even changing the name to Foreigner’s Ghost, but with attachment to all art work would work for me Kevin!❤❤❤
Jeff Pilson has been with Foreigner for almost 20 years. Kelly Hanson for longer.
@@corykottickmusic3194Kelly joined in 2005, how is that more than 20?
@@simonajugarih3620 ok…18 years is still a long tenure.
@@corykottickmusic3194 yes, I guess a couple of years should not matter. The main point is that he hasn't done anything of importance in this time,...
Foreigner was the first album I bought.I got it when it came out. I loved the song Star Rider, the Moog solo got me.
The current line up should be a tribute band with special guest Mick Jones.
Mick Jones isn't there either. He's been sick lately.
I still have their first album and head games double vision and Foreigner 4 on album. All those albums are really good one of my favorite songs was Rev on the red line remember that one? I am from the same area that Lou Gramm is from and I know what that song was written about and my brother new Lou Gramm a little bit
@JPM1942 Lou said in August of 2022 on John Beaudins ROCK HISTORY that Mick wasn't doing well with heart problems. Jeff Pilson came out a while later in a different interview saying Mick was doing well. Yet Mick is not seen on stage AT ALL. I believe Lou over Pilson about Mick. This "FAREWELL TOUR" is nothing but a MONEY 💰 GRAB.
@waltersimmons946 I agree with you. Lou is probably right. I was at that concert on Aug 2. Mick Jones. I fid not pay to see them . I won the tickets on a Radio Station. I wouldn't pay to see them now. I saw them in 1980 with Lou. They were great.
@JPM1942 Thanks for responding. Lou was exactly right. In his book "LOU GRAMM JUKE BOX HERO my 5 decades in Rock n Roll which came out in 2012. Lou explained how he felt the fans were being ripped off by this "new" Foreigner. Recently, Lou did an interview explaining the Hansen lineup was being paid (for touring) double more money than the original lineup and classic 4 ever got, and you know the original members created and toured to promote the classics. Very dirty indeed.
Here's who I'd induct (a partial list): Neil Sedaka, Johnny Rivers, The Beau Brummels, The Turtles, Paul Revere and The Raiders, The Monkees (and Nesmith as a solo artist), Procol Harum, Badfinger, War, The Carpenters, Bread, America, John Denver, Jim Croce, Olivia Newton John, Grand Funk Railroad, Three Dog Night, Styx, Sweet, Johnny and Edgar Winter, Foreigner, Ted Nugent, The Raspberries, XTC. Like I said, only a partial list. One more thing, I think it's a travesty that Bob Welch was not inducted as a member of Fleetwood Mac. I've heard it's because of bitterness caused by a lawsuit. Bob Welch kept that band going between the Peter Green and Buckingham/Nicks years. Put him in NOW!
Many good choices except that I don't consider Neil Sedaka and Olivia Newton John as true rock artists.
@@MIB_63 I count any act that started after the mid 50s as eligible. Johnny Cash was country, Al Green is soul, ABBA is pop, Black Sabbath is metal, James Taylor is soft rock but they're all in.
Oh my goodness Larry! So many of my favorites!
The Monkees, and yes Nesmith as a solo artist, along with Flo and Eddie? Not to mention Johnny Rivers live at the Whiskey -a-Go-Go. Badfinger & The Beau Brummells as a cherry on top???
I’ll take two please!!!❤❤❤
Stoked to see the Kansas debut LP shown! Bought it when it came out due to the cover and was blown away!
The original band members should be in the hall of fame and not the replacements
Foreigner was killer and so was Lover boy! Both great on a good set of speakers!👍
Absolutely deserve to be in. Zero discussion.
Mick Jones has a right to encourage and continue what he created with the players he has picked to represent the legacy band. Yes into rrhof like so many other bands and artists that influenced others. The reality; Music and musicians are now 30,40 and 50 years older, and we need to see them with a wide lens, not just as they were in 1977! Either ignore the rrhof or continue to harp on their biased stance. To many changes in the music/radio/entertainment world to even be able to compare today with yesterday...but ohhhhh what great music was made, and we can still listen to them now, or as they were then... our choice! Another Great posting!!!! 👍
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame should be in Foreigner.
LOL! ❤❤❤
Good one Lengsel!
Lou Gramm should be in it without question. His stellar vocal contributions alone to Foreigner needs to be recognized. I study his vocals to this day! Then you have his songwriting.
Michael, I think only the original members of foreigners should be inducted into the Hall of Fame.
Yeah me too Kelly! ❤❤❤😉👌
I played the first Foreigner album on cassette in my car to DEATH. Loved it. I think I just burned myself out on them. That happens to me sometimes. It was the exception for me to have more than 3 albums by the same group or artist. The Beatles of course. Floyd. Dylan. Mitchell.
Yeah I burnt myself out decades ago, but just recently started relisten in to them, and wow! They really were quite good Helene!❤❤❤
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLineindeed they were! 🤗
Who cares,? The current band keeps The music Going. Like many artists today keep s The old blues like muddy Waters going. Bb King....Lou has His own band and did anyone mention don Henley is not in the eagles? Don Henley is the only remaining member, with Vince Gill and NOT don Felder! Lindsey Buckingham isn't original either But replaced my Neil Finn and Mike from Tom Petty and the heartbreakers
Kelly Hansen has The energy And be vocal Chops they're great. We all want what we can't Have And the 🎈 original members are in their 70s
The band foreigner sounds great. So what they're not the original band' they Left
I had the “Head Games” album on vinyl, cassette and 8-trac and used them all daily
Only the original band should be inducted in HOF.
Amen to that Mike! ❤❤❤
Lou Gramm has said in interviews that the clash between Jann Wenner and Mick Jones is keeping Foreigner out. I don't begrudge Kelly Hansen a good living fronting this Foreigner tribute band and I salute him earning an income in music. For me, in October of 1977 I saw Jay Ferguson of "Thunder Island" fame support Foreigner on their first tour in at a CYC gymnasium that a popular concert venue at the time. It was a rainy night and I was on a date that went nowhere but that never mattered as I had a great seat to see Foreigner. I was in the balcony on the side of the stage above Ian McDonald who totally impressed me as he played keyboard, guitar, flute, sax with such proficiency that he was a brilliant multi instrumentalist. I've seen many live shows since but no one matches Ian McDonald. Mick Jones was on guitar, Al Greenwood keyboards, Ed Gagliardi was bass and Dennis Elliot drums. Lou Gramm was awe inspiring as he took the stage that night and had the audience spell bound. Foreigner in October of 1977 was one of the greatest rock shows I'd ever seen.
Agreed Michael.
Thanx Jeffrey! Good to hear from you brother! ❤❤❤
I love Foreigner (and the King Crimson connection doesn’t hurt…) They should be in The Hall.
The original members should be if it wasn’t for them todays members wouldn’t have the sounds to sing. I went to see the band in 1979 and just this month in 2023 went again. I see them as a very good tribute band.
The first 5 albums with Lou Gramm are best.
The original members should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Especially Lou Gramm and Mick Jones, since they wrote the majority of the songs too.
It’s a great example of corporate rock, and awards sham. 🎶
LOL! Perfectly said David! 😉😂❤
I’m from Rochester New York, where I come from Lou Graham IS Foreigner
Amen to that Michael!❤❤❤
I HAVE ALL those albums still there great
I completely agree with you but I'd also include "Inside Information" from 1987. "Say You Will" from that album is a real earworm!
As of today, thanks to Mr. Winter being ousted from the Rock Hall, Foreigner will now be in the HOF. Band members going in:
Lou Gramm
Mick Jones
Ian MacDonald
Al Greenwood
Dennis Elliott
Ed Gagliardi
Rick Wills-who replaced Ed in '79.
Lou Gramm es foraigner sin su voz las canciones no tendrían tanto exito❤
I have seen the current lineup live in concert. It was a great show, great band ,top notch musicians. 🔥
But I have to agree with you that only the members up to "Agent Provocateur" should get in.
The current lineup only recorded one decent album, maybe if they had more hits. Maybe.
I would inch it up to "Inside Information". At least both Mick and Lou are still on it.
Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
No estoy segura pero una de las reglas para entrar es que tenga una grabación hecha co al menos 20 año de antiguedad. Si es así es la banda original con Lou Gramm el mejor de todos los tiempos ❤❤❤
Lou Gramm is Foreigner. The voice
Absolutely-freakin’-lutely Norelti!❤❤❤
Double Vision was the first album I bought. I was in the 3rd grade.
So their exclusion the the Hall must piss you off anabolic! ❤❤❤😉👍👌🤙
Here are a few thoughts. First, I cannot say I was ever a big fan of Foreigner. I didn't dislike them, but for whatever reason their music did not grab me as much as some of their contemporaries like Boston and Styx. So I think my opinion on this subject is fairly objective. ABSOLUTELY, they deserve to be in the HOF! Certainly much more than some of the hip-hop acts that are already in. (No hate for hip-hop, but this is the Rock and Roll HOF.) I may not be a huge Foreigner fan, but to me their influence is undeniable. Second, even the hip-hoppers deserve way more to be connected with the HOF than Jann Wenner.
Second, the inductees should just be the original guys, IMO. I agree with you that what is touring under the Foreigner banner right now is a tribute band - featuring occasional guest appearances from Mick Jones. If the other guys want to be at the table during the ceremony, that's cool. (Although with the obscene amount of money Wenner charges for people legitimately connected to the band to be at the table, who would want to fork that over?)
Third, you always give me a chuckle when you push that mic on the stand away and there is obviously no drop off in sound! 😄
Fourthly, won't someone out there please start up a legitimate R&R HOF?
Without the ariginal line up, there is no Foreigner period!!
I dont personally enjoy the 4 bands you mentioned, but they should be in the hall of fame😊
Very fair-minded Clyde! I’m not crazy about Steve Perry Journey, but loved their first efforts! ❤❤❤
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine yes, with Greg Rollie
Yes the Original Members Belong
Yes certainly Foreigner belong in Rock and Roll Hall of Fame but only the original members not the replacement musicians who came along years later.
Other bands to consider...Rick James and the Stone City Band, Blue Oyster Cult, J. Geils Band, also Warren Zevon and others for sure that I haven't mentioned.
The Hall of Fame Committee need to open their eyes more!!! Yes, Foreigner belongs !!!
Agreed! Thanx scait! ❤❤❤
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine you are welcome my friend!
Jan Wenner hates Chicago and The Moody Blues but they couldn't be denied forever.
Truth!!
Better chance of Milli Vanilli getting in the Rock Hall of Shame than Foreigner! Blame it On the Rain!
Who is Kelly Hansen?! Mick Jones may own the name and band, but Lou Gramms voice IS Foreigner...great video Michael..cheers ✌
Foreigner should be in the R&R Hall of Fame -- but with the likes of so many other legendary artists not in that Hall why even wonder?
No Jethro Tull, Procol Harum, Chubby Checker (250 million career record sales & still performing, and he holds confirmed chart records in the music industry to this day).
Add -- The Monkees, Steppenwolf, King Crimson, Joe Cocker, Manfred Mann (all inceptions since 1963), Mountain with Leslie West, Harry Nilsson & Warren Zevon.
Now I get really technical -- even early pop stars like Bobby Rydell (25 million records sold & he influenced The Beatles ask Paul McCartney), Bobby Vee (38 charted records & Bob Dylan played piano for him), and Connie Francis (100 million records sold). How about some of the girl groups who influenced the likes of Amy Winehouse? How about Leslie Gore (19 charted hits, second only to Brenda Lee in sales in the 60s). More sales than some of the artists who are in the R&R Hall of Fame.
There are many others not in the Hall. Some were inconsequential but inspiring nonetheless (like Iron Butterfly) and far more important to R&R than any soul, rap, hip-hop, or country artist.
There's even a Greek rock singer Demis Roussous who along with Vangelis (Academy Award winner & made albums with Yes' Jon Anderson) was part of the masterful band Aphrodite's Child. Each of their careers lasted for decades. Demis alone sold over 60 million solo albums worldwide & when he came to NYC he sold out the Beacon Theater. What? Because we here in America aren't familiar with him disqualify him? BS
Yes, Foreigner deserves to be in the R&R Hall of Fame, no doubt -- but I'm not surprised that they're not. It's a club & you ain't in it.
Kelly is the Steve perry of foreigner, totally enjoy his stage performance,
I've seen the most recent versions of Skynyrd, Kansas, Journey, and Foreigner, all accused of being cover bands. I thought they all were incredible regardless of what you want to call them. I do not feel cheated or have a need to place labels on them. ...but, when it comes to getting inducted into the RRHOF, the original, or most impactful of the legacy should be the ones. I know that in the case of Skynyrd and Journey, they seemed to have selected the right band members for induction.
It's not the same without Lou Gramm sorry
No it;s certainly not Koolkitties!❤❤❤
I TOTALLY AGREE!!!!!!!! I have very fond memories of Foreigner when I first heard "Feel likes the first time" in 1977 at age 14.Foreinger will ALWAYS BE Lou Gramm who as original lead vocalist of the band co-wrote some of the bands most endearing songs.😊
Might as well have The Stones without Mick Jagger.
You have to admit that Kelly does a pretty good job
@@-rockmusiclover- yeah he may do a decent job but he didn't write all their classic hits. And he's talking about Foreigner going into Rock and Roll Hall of Fame he doesn't deserve to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame with them because their music that made them so popular had Lou Gramm as the lead singer and songwriter along with Mick Jones
I side with you sir…they absolutely need to be in it!!!
Thanx Charles! Wenner & Sykes have got to go! ❤❤❤
I just saw Foreigner at Jones Beach in NY. Mick Jones wasn't there. It was a fantastic show and each of the musicians are great. I would pay to see them again. However, they are not Foreigner. I age with Michael - they are an extremely talented tribute band.
This is very similar to a band that comes from my country Australia called The Little River. They still perform to large audiences around America that don't even know they have none of the original members at all. A replacement guitarist that joined them late In their career actually bought the band name from the original members and now tour as LRB and most aren't even aware of it.
Obviously, the original band belongs in the HOF...as you stated. Given the track record of the Rock and Roll HOF, however, I actually have more respect for artists that are excluded from the HOF than those who are inducted today. It's become an institution of self-important, posing, self-righteous snobs. Loved your video, though, Michael....ty!
For me it's the same with Rainbow's concerts in 2016. For me a Rainbow Tribute Band, no original member except Mr. Blackmore. No album, No new songs., I think he only wanted to make some money of it. OK, you can say that Ritchie often has his co-workers... But even with Dougie White on vocals he made an album (Stranger in us all) besides the concerts. I was on an Open Air where Foreigner was headliner in 1981, when Iron Maiden still had Paul DiAnno on vocals. I think they were Opener. Other bands I remember were Motörhead, Blackfoot, Blue Oyster Cult and Kansas (with Steve Morse).
The original members of Foreigner that played on the albums should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
I saw Foreigner and Molly hatchet for my first concert in 1978
I love Foreigner's music and Lou Gramm has the best vocals I've ever heard, especially in Black Sheep. I'm a bit confused about the induction, though. Who do you induct, the 6, the 4, Lou and Mick, the bass player who played for 5 min or the one who played for 15? It must be confusing for anybody who starts thinking about it. I support that groups like U2 are in, great musicians with integrity and loyalty who wouldn't stab eachother in the back for some rent money. If they get inducted, definately only the original remaining bandmembers.
Mike can somebody create a new HOF? There’s the Oscar’s, but there’s always PC and Golden Globe! Call it ROCKERs HOF! I’ll sign and donate!!! 🎸
At this point it's a tribute band. That's what I respect about Led Zeppelin, they knew when to call it quits.
They will be put in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame when Mick Jones is gone. I hope Lou Gramm sees the day.
Foreigner as well as Ted Nugent should have been awarded the RRHOF Award years ago! It doesn’t pass the smell test. The original lineup should be awarded.
Yeah Nick, that’s what I always get down to. The original line-up should get the gold!❤️😉👌
Thank you for bringing up Foreigner. I thought Foreigner was a great hard rock band. When Wanna Know What Love Is came out, that is when I started to lose interest in them. Boring sell out ballad money grab is what I think destroyed them. Imo. I can’t get past the first four albums, totally great albums. Lou Gramm what a voice, can’t argue how he influenced so many vocalist.
That band definitely deserves to be in RNR HOF. The members should be the ones who were still in the band within the first four. I guess it does include Mick and Lou.
This current band is a Tribute, it’s not Foreigner.
Calling it Mick Jones And Foreigner tribute similar to Don Henley's Eagles
I agree on that cut Madison TOTALLY! Good call! ❤❤❤
@@Thomasmemoryscentral👌
agreed 👍 1st 4 albums are superb. mick Jones + lou gramm were a great pairing .
I never really liked, I want to Know What Love Is but there are a couple of other songs from that Era I liked, like That was Yesterday and Say You Will. The rest of my favorites are on the earlier albums.
If they get into the RnR HOF, Lou Gramm needs to be a part of it.
I saw Foreigner?? August 2 at Jones Beach. Nobody original were there . Even Mick Jones was not there. This is not Foreigner but a good cover band in my opinion. Yes Foreigner should be inducted in the Rock and Roll hall of Fame but not these guys only the originals Lou Gramm, Mick Jones ect... i agree with you Foreigner is the original 6 members from Albums 1 - 4. And they and only they should be inducted . Good show thank you.
Like Journey and Bon Jovi, Foreigner probably gets in once they are nominated. The reason they haven't been is because they don't have a hardcore fan base that will plead their case the way the other two bands do.
I agree with you that Foreigner along with the other bands you mentioned here deserve induction into the R&RHOF. Wenner is a big reason that they and other bands like them are not being considered. In a recent interview Wenner mentioned that Foreigner and other bands like them "Have never come up in the discussions by the nomination committee". There are people on the the hall's nomination committee that also are responsible for this issue. They hold a bias towards such bands. As to the current lineup of the band, personally I don't consider it truly Foreigner. It's more of a tribute band in my opinion. So if Foreigner was to be inducted it should include only those that were involved with the works that are the reasons they are being chosen for induction. In my opinion, that is the way it should be for any of these groups that have gone through several lineup changes over the years.
"Inside information" should be included on that albums list..because they did have 2 top ten hits from that album in 1988..they should definitly be in the rock and roll hall of fame..that is so stupid.
But seriously folks, there should be a year we play cleanup. Nothing but real rock n roll nominees from the 60s, 70s, and 80s. Foreigner, Boston, Jethro Tull, Bad Company, King Crimson, Ted Nugent, Kansas, Paul Revere & the Raiders, Tommy James & the Shondells, The Monkees, the Runaways, the Guess Who and the Jam should be among the nominees, and induct seven. Boston, Tull, Foreigner, Guess Who, Bad Co, King Crimson, and Kansas should be the inductees. The members who played on the first five albums should be the members inducted.
If Foreigner is to be inducted, it should only be the line-ups from the first 5 albums.
I have an unrelated question Michael; Why do you suppose Micky Thomas is so undervalued as a superb rock vocalist? I just listened to Jane again and holy cow, he blows the roof off. Is it that Grace Slick sucked up all the oxygen in that group?
Always have wondered that myself - Mickey Thomas gets done really brutal criticism for his singing.....why? The man has a killer set of pipes, incredible range! Peeps just don't appreciate vocalists that sing in that high register. Even Steve Perry gets crap from people who don't like his high register! Steve freakin' Perry!?!? Mickey is a gifted singer - case closed, I don't wanna hear any ridiculous slights about him!
Micky certainly was one of the top vocalists from that time period!
I remember being impressed with the 3rd incarnation Helene!
And that’s coming from a Grace Slick AND Marty Balin fan!
3 great leads for the price of one!❤❤❤
@@treff9226 I actually was thinking that Perry gets so many accolades for his range and gorgeous voice and Mickey gets virtually none. I did not know that some hate on Perry. How utterly absurd!
@@w.geoffreyspaulding6588 Yessir! Absurd it is, I see a caveman mentality out there, where there is a certain group of dudes that seem to think that vocalists with a higher tone, tenors, bring a weakness to the music, a wimp factor, or that they are whiny. I have also come across those music fans that are of the belief that tenors are showing off or over doing it, when they hit all those high notes - I myself am simply in awe and can't get enough of it! Rare talent to be able to reach those skyward tones! I don't see how you cannot appreciate gifted vocalists who have the voice to convey deep emotions, these singers should use every damn ounce of their gifts!
Like Yes, Foreigner has become their own tribute band. That’s okay, aa long as there’s an audience for it. Ain’t my cup of tea. They should be in the Hall of Fame. What a shame that there isn’t a REAL one. They gave us at least four or five solid albums that live on. That’s a pretty damn good gift.
Jan Wenner has done so many despicable things -. this is just one more.
I went to high school with the "Current" line up. The guitar player to be specific. It was in Los Angeles. We graduated in I think 1979. They do sound good. The audience knows these are not the origionial guys, Yet seem to be happy to spend money to see the "Tribute" version. I saw the origional band at the Los Angeles Fromm in the 70`s-The Double vision Tour. -It could not be replicated in any way shape or forum
I am with you , the list should be the original members from 1976 to 1985 oh yes those 5 albums you mention and the last time the original mob played together was at the Gold Coast 600 in 2017 and yes it was a one off reunion for them . As for the rest , who are they as I don't even have a clue as I will call them ring ins.
The Rock and roll hall of fame today is a joke. Like how the hell can you call Eminem Rock and Roll, Personally I call it rap crap.
At this point, I really don't care about the Hall of Shame.
The Cars, Journey and Cheap Trick are in ! They shoukd be joined by REO, Styx, Kansas, GFR , Boston and Foreigner!
Foreigner is a true rock band with pop music appeal. Saw them play at MSG in '79. (Johnny Winter opened). Not sure who these guys are calling themselves Foreigner now but without Lou Gramm, it's a tribute band. As for the HOF, it's a joke at best. A scam at worst.
Yes for hall of fame no for members now in group
The Beastie Boys were inducted in 2010.
No ! Only 1st thru 4 band members & who ever was in the band on the album I want to know what love is but yes they deserve to be in rocks hall if not them then take all of the others out because that’s how good they were .🎤
I’ve seen Foreigner with Lou and with Kelly. Both shows were good but Lou goes into the HOF whenever that time is
Of course Foreigner should be in the HOF. But only the members that were on those first five albums. No posers and no tribute bands.
The same goes for 'Styx'! The version I love & respect aka listen to is the'Dennis DeYoung & Styx' version!
This is very easy, 'Lou Gramm & Mick Jones' are 'were and forever will be 'Foreigner'!
There is no doubt Foreigner should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. However, the current status of the Hall is a joke, any way.
Regarding which members should be included, I believe those who contributed to the first four to five albums.
Lou Reed is in twice. What does that tell you about the selection process?
‘Nuff said Lewis!❤❤❤👌
Two indisputable facts: The so-called Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a total sham and 2. No Lou Gramm, No Foreigner.
2:20... Agreed. To me the band ended after those first few albums. Foreigner today isn't Foreigner. Are they HOF?? Probably however I'm a bit on the fence about them. It's the same thing with athletes. To me whether it's an athlete or a band/artist it has to be a slam dunk and a no-doubter for HOF inclusion. I also have a big problem with bands continuing on with non-original members especially when 75% or more of the original band is gone. Call it something else.
I was once in a museum where an axe from the Viking Age was on display. Over the centuries, the handle had been replaced three times and the blade twice. Apart from that, the axe was still in the original condition as it was 1000 years ago. Jokes aside: Foreigner without Lou Gramm *and* Mick Jones does not make any sense to me.
I think to be inducted with a band you need to have had something to do with the music that they are being inducted for, not simply a long time member that had nothing to do with the music’s creation.
What about Toto! All the original members have been all over rock and roll songs. They have played on over 5000 records and I’m talking about with other artists. I mean really! At least the Musicians Hall of Fame got it right! There definitely in that Hall of Fame!
The band that created the success gets in the Hall. Steve Morse and Don Airey who have been in Deep Purple for over two decades never got inducted.
Hawkwind has had about 50 members including ginger baker and almost jack bruce! with only one original who copywrited the name, he still maintains its hawkwind.