Honestly if you don't understand it it's whatever... But the complexity of what they're doing is totally astonishing... Not everyone likes late neo-modality. Honestly to me this is extremely tame and sane.
The ignorance of the uneducated shining through yet again! Just because you don't understand it doesn't make the musician a lunatic. There's many genres of music I don't understand or like, but I appreciate the creativity that's gone into the music, never mind the pride of the people who have made that music! Imagine something you've done being dismissed so casually when you've put your heart and soul into it!
Right... but Olivier Latry can play whatever he wants alone at home or with the few false intellectuals who pretend to like this contemporary noise. Contemporary art is mostly elitism, by which certain people try to pretend that they are better than everyone who has taste or, at least, two ears. Sure, this music is complex. It isn't good. I'd also argue that it isn't very intelligent music. Latry or whoever regretably tolerates that he mistreats the mass-goers in this way should understand his role not only as a liturgical organist, but also as someone who performs to a public who hasn't quite chosen to hear him. Latry shouldn't play with pride. That is exactly the contrary of what his job entails (Musicam Sacram art.62). If he wants to, he's free to do so in a private concert for the 10 or so musicologists who'd want to endure that. This sort of unintelligent, insipid and atrocious music is a sort of badge, that posey snoots show to distinguish themselves from the "uneducated" and their so-called ignorance, unaware that they're the ridiculous court people, clapping at the naked emperors fine clothes.
@@Rudolph1722 Contemporary art is just as elitist as traditional art. The world of music and art as a whole is somehow competitive. This doesn't necessarily implies that you are on a constant race, as those skills you acquire serve other purposes than surpassing your opponents. Those skills must be particularly special to meet the standards of the titularity in Notre Dame de Paris, wich happens to be the highest aspiration of any french or even european organist. Latry, or whoever is playing, isn't there for no reason, he wasn't chosen randomly. He met the criteria, a big achievement. Of course, the parishers didn't choose who they wan't to listen to, just like they can't choose which organ, but I can assure you that this "noise" doesn't bother any of them. Also, it seems like you are mistaking pride with passion, and there's nothing better than being passionate in your job. Notre Dame de Paris has a long history of what you would call "noisy" musicians and it happens that they were the best careers of their time too. Wonder why... The art. 62 in Musicam Sacram doesn't state instructions on how the organist should play (you aren't forbidden to enjoy the music you play), and not only that, but also encourages him to contribute to a "powerful elevation to the Divine and to the edification of the faithful", and the art.67 demands to "enrich the sacred celebration according to the true nature of each of its parts, and encourage the participation of the faithful": there's nothing better than Notre Dame de Paris and its musicians, then. I'm agnostic and I can tell that these masses and their music bring me closer to God than any other using a few set of flute-sounding pipes or a piano. This organ itself is intentionally "noisy" (powerful). Its wide range of extremely powerful reeds was made to impress, as requested by the cathedral back then; what's the point of it if you aren't using them? What's the point if you aren't drawing all the stops by pressing that tutti button at least once? Does it sounds noisy? Nah, it sounds powerful and inspiring. Don't get me wrong, I like soft organ music too, but if you are keeping the slow and monotonous liturgy forever, just remove every big organ, replace it with a single-registered portatile organ and stop wasting money, just like the early Middle Ages. After all, the pipe organ developed into what we know today to innovate and expand its capabilities and overcome that monotony, allowing to produce way more complex music. You can either like it or not, but saying his audience is wrong is plain blatant and rampantly ignorant by the fact that you are judging them purely by their musical taste; I like it the same as I like gregorian chants or romantic operas, and I'm not such a thing as "a fake intellectual who pretends to like his contemporary music". I might be mistaken, but you seem to be one of those who say that everything was better in the past, a repeating topic among all the artists of our history when a new artistic movement is born, and being repeatedly proven wrong. You started by insinuating that contemporary musicians and their followers were like that merely to be superior to the "uneducated and ignorant", yet calling them "false intellectuals" and their "unintelligent, insipid and atrocious music" taste exposes your hypocrisy. It is precisely that kind of people who have some kind of superiority complex. I'm not trying to convince you to like it, and I will repeat: you can either like it or not, but don't judge *people by their musical tastes*; keep it to yourself. I hate heavy metal and I'm not calling its followers braindead because of that PD: to put the video itself in context I would like to refer to the art.65, particularly here: "it may also be played solo at the beginning before the priest reaches the altar, at the offertory, at the communion, and at the end of mass". This "noisy" improvisations usually take place at the end of the mass, which is called "sortie" in France. They are common, and parishers love it
@@madberlin now, really, I'm in pain. A lot of pain. I ache horribly. I just can't believe this would happen to me. My life is over. The very famous madberlin, whose opinion is, in contrast to mine, so valued by the general public has declared my own opinion invalid. What am I to do? I must flee the world, for even in the forests and over the mountains, there will be no place where my words won't fall on deaf ears, now that the great madberlin has spoken. Oh woe! It is as though my mouth has been sewn shut!
May be someone here should open his/her ears and mind to life as it is in 2023. I live in Denmark and in our church we are incredibly lucky to have 2 very skilled organists. One of them is considered to be one of the best, if not the best improvisator in the country. He plays Bach etc. and every single masterpiece by the old French composers ( and former organists of the Notre Dame!) almost prima vista as well as he makes improvisations over the service of the day as a postlude. And we all love him for it Nobody leaves before has ended playing. He is an Asperger with very special skills that have brought him around the world, and you can always tell his mood when you hear him play. Smile - and very often you’ll get a smile in return😊 - And I forgot to mention what happens if you put him in front of a Hammond B3.
I don't understand why this is perceived as madness. It is just passionate improvisation. Kudos also to the organist for landing in a minor mode chord at the end! I would do the same on this organ, in a different style of course. Besides, the little boy seems perplexed, perhaps he feels the newborn organist taking shape in his heart, the little girl disapproves and the lady is really excited. That's right, let the emotions flow out.
Looking back, I can understand a child's reaction to this type of improvisation - on a different instrument it may have sounded totally different and more musical. I didn't find Messiaen or Langlais in my childhood but I picked up on it after a Simon Preston Recital at Gloucester Cathedral in the early 80's! I've loved it ever since.
@@jasons8479Do you have any idea of the musical complexity behind this, each chord with each modification, for an absolute uneducated person like you to come and give an opinion on something so complex?
I suppose..., no I am sure, it`s Olivier Latry 😇! Only a brilliant unique organist like him, being married with this absolute Queen of Organs, can create such a fantastic improvisation: close to Messiaen, he often made the next steps. This is another beautiful example. We can be glad, that this divine organ-sound was not destroyed by the desastrous fire.
Karajan loved it to hand over his Maestro Stick to a critical mind: ''Show me, what you mean... ! '' (in german: ''...bitte schön... machen Sie es mir vor '') Years later, there was trouble with the orchestra about a Mahler Symphony, which Karajan in parts wanted to be performed faster than possible... Suddenly the First Cellist came around the orchestra to Karajans pult and said: ''Maestro, machen Sie es mir vor'' (Try Playing that:) It must have been an extremely silent moment, meanwhile not few of the Berliner Philharmonic Members faught like Lions with themselves, to supress a broad smile :) And we all know that situation: It gets worse, when we are not allowed to smile😶🌫🤥😏🤧🤣
That`s it 😁! Like the medieval dragonheads above the entrances of the scandinavian and slavic stave-churches: A kind of double ensurance, added to the magic of the christian cross... assisted by the pagean gods from the viking past, to keep all evil spirits and Trolls out :)
A true musician reveals he’s or her’s emotions through music itself. He or She was not insane but rather distressed or angry describing the tone played on the instrument. I know I this sounds philosophical, but from a musician perspective it’s completely normal.
It could have also been in relation to the text of the sermon or if it was a feast day in the church! French organs at full throttle have a very distinctive tone which suits improvisation such as this perfectly suiting to the Roman Catholic liturgy. Such a shame we didn't get to hear the whole thing!
I am evangelisch... but i never underestimate a catholic Mass in roman language again :) When there was the orthodox movement in the times of Cardinal Lefèvre more than 25 years ago, some churches in Germany followed him and returned to a Latin Liturgy... Being young, curious and a Lutheran, I went there, to be prepaired for the many catholic Status-Quo discussions at that time, ...for to understand better, what they were talking about... Wow... what a journey: It made me understand, how the architectural styles of medieval european churches (especially the cathedrals !) were designed, ...were developed and optimized ''around'' the unique sound of the Latin Language :)
@@milesedgeworth51 Not confident whetiher this could be qualified as "modal" tgiven the chords I could (hardly) discern (A #, B, g, d, a), but you might be right. There is, anyway, a grandiose and impressive pathos which Latry did not get me used to. So that could be a second reason why you'd be righr ! ;)
This is one of the best! The magnificance.. I have the joy to work in one of the most beautiful old cathedrals of Europe, with one of the most glorious organs in existence with one of the best organists in Europe and it is heaven! Bliss... Give me music like this each day to hear the voice from the heavens. Ignorant people...
Sign of the times. Seriously I think it fantastic, even more so if it's improvised. Note to the Americans - the french have a different 'ear.'; the English consonant -3rds+6ths where the french discordant - w=4ths + 5ths. So the music here will be challenging coming from a consonant background. Change the way you listen to music as such above.
I studied liturgical music in University. I have had the rare opportunity to sit in the organ loft at Notre Dame as Olivier Latry played for and improvised during a mass. And I respect your daughter's opinion!
.....and I had the chance to see (and hear) Pierre Cocherau at Notre Dame on a sunday mass. Improvisation at its best !!! Old French tradition. Très bien fait, Maitre Latry !!!! But you should also hear Monsieur Latry accompanying (??) the Magnificat Royal.. So touching, so straight, so heart-warming. I listen to it almost every night. Wonderful !!!
Incredible Improvisation, however understandable that the very live acoustical delay make it sound like cacophony to unreceptive ears, save to those familiar and appreciative of this genre. Perhaps played in a drier acoustical setting the complexity and genius of the music might be more apparent.
I found the people-chatter the most annoying noise. The organist did a fine improv, but it was ruined by the people. Someone needs develop an electronic cannon stop to shock the people into a lower noise level.
@@dnwitteI do not want to imagine, how many improvisations of this value by Widor, Vierne, Messiaen & Co are lost: not written down ...and not even recorded like this one.
Virgil Fox said that he himself, had played for hours in a trance; [book: "Virgil Fox (The Dish)"]. And I also read of an observer who saw Virgil's eyes rolled back while playing; (a known sign of possession). And I have been “pounced” on myself; so I am not trying to be mean to anybody. (And GermanGreetings, I am going to try to work on a reply to your long comment).
@@jgreg9706Thank you for answering - and sorry about my `Trance`-joke: it`s a french word :) German normally is a rich language - but we lacked many words about kitchen, wellness e.g. Our cultures were quite different because of tzhe antique roman Limes-Wall. France was far more influenced by the toman culture, meanwhile german tribes had to be forced until the xear of ca. 1000 AD, to take over Christianity... we filled our vocabulry up with French first, it was Europes Court Language No1... English and Italian came later and became stronger then... the court Language became english, many german blue blooded families are related to english royals til today...as you know I suppose. It`s fascinating, what you tell about Virgils `Ekstase, Trance, Meditation, inner journey` I thought about the New Testament, were the devifels talked `in tongues` - Zungenrede in german. Medieval Ministrels are often painted with closed eyes... all that fits to Virgil, rolling his eyes `inside`.
Pope John XXII: "Complex polyphony entices only the ear and not the soul, and will tempt our flock into impiety." The modern church: "Hold my sacramental wine..."
Hello love. Rather get yourself educated. Then you will appreciate the musical talent and exceptional effort which i at work here. There is years of dedication and blood-sweat to produce this music. Don't judge. (This post indicates to me that you are church-going folk, which is excellent. But your post also indicates that you need to get educated about the diversity in this world which the chuch is trying to alleviate and join in love and harmony).
Dear Mr. Severson, I hope you never intend to erase this historic Video from YT, although some `old socks` are not grateful here... It`s a unique source of this improvisation, I suppose - and the discussions and disputes growing out of this French Music Eruption poewered by Mr. Latry in Notre Dame... that`s pure liquid gold ! Your cute daughter at the end of this video is a super special divine moment, because she leads all the dicussions back to their origins. `Our (former) little Lady` (...Notre Dame:) reminds us smoothly, who and what we are: entering life as a child, and leaving it as we `chose`... In angriness as grim people, erecting walls... or we bewared the treasure of kindness, interest and simplicity, as only children can teach us :) Your little princess behaved totally natural as a girl of her age... and she is so honest about the loud and strange athmosphre (because of a baby, did I understand that right ? )... And then she throttles her complex multitasking down at once, when her mother `organises` a lower voice-level in this sudden silence... And she smiles, although it is such a fast, surprising manouver, feeling ashamed a bit... ej: AND she smiles :) You are good parents to her - moments like this one reveal christal clear: she got an `education of heart`, and her short smile reflects all your love to her in such a fine and gentle way... it causes tears, just thinking about this short intensive moment, filled up with sensibility, care, being astonished... Maybe you remind her, how beautiful and wonderful she is ! And she will remain the true `third dimension` to all the polarising discussions about music in this comment-section, as long as you share this video here... I am sure: Jesus likes it, ''inviting the children to him this way, and no one shall hinder them...'` Ok. Currently we have to add: '' Don`t worry, no one shall harm them behind any closed doors... I am a father and grand-godfather either: That hurts... So the more we all can be glad, that Notre Dame and her giant Organ will return soon after the horrible fire 4 years ago. I hope, we get these magic words from the mountain restaured... a project for generations... may organs and cathedrals be strong tools for that. Thank you for your former Idea, to make a trip to Paris :) And thank you for sharing this treasure with us. God bless you ! P.S. I found another music, ...same place, same organ. Again it suddenly will get a bit majestic here and there. Maybe you mind crying babies in your neighbourhood... it`s Notre Dame, so for you it will be like coming home quasi... ruclips.net/video/iHj6NR6H0tc/видео.html
I heard from Britain, that in one church the amount of concert visitors must be counted before letting them in. If there are not enough people, the deepest 64` Bass Register of the Organ may not be used in the concert... because of resonnances rising like waves in a storm. Maybe someone reading this knows about the name of this chrurch ?
Déjà, on écrit : "Messiaen". Cela nous démontre déjà bien votre niveau de connaissances musicales. Vous n'avez rien compris. Limitez-vous à ce que vous pouvez apprécier.@@michaelm5926
Often the postlude is a chance for the organist to demostrate his/her virtuosity and imprvisational skills. In addition, it demosntrates what the instrument is capable of.
"Comme d'habitude"... Pauvre ignorant! Olivier Latry est un musicien (un grand maître) qui est le digne successeur de Pierre Cocherau. Le traiter de fou est une très grave insulte mais qui révèle bien votre bêtise (musicale) et votre méchanceté. Passez votre chemin et laissez les personnes comme nous que cette musique touche, l'apprécier...
@@Mirage5BR You must have misunderstood me, his improvisations are crazy. I couldn't improvise something like that. It reflects the French tradition started by Tournemire and followed by Cochereau... I'm more sympathetic to the branch started by César Frank and followed by Vierne, but that branch is dead, so... I don't know what offended you, maybe some translation problem between English and French, it can happen... but I'm not knocking Latry. So please forgive the "ignorant" and enjoy music.
@@xReMmiXX He did it to me too---totally flamed me out of misunderstanding my comment. The guy doesn't seem to understand English expression and goes straight to rage and insults.
🎹 These critics would moan and tch-tch if they heard Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D minor played on this incredible instrument. May find their enjoyment sitting back and listening to Billy Joel stumble through another round of Piano Man.
Despite its acceptability in musical academia this is a very unhelpful way to complete a sacramental service. It sounds like, and belongs in, Phantom of the Opera.
If you don't understand this in it's own context, and judge it from your own context, that's ok, but does not say anything helpful on the way the mass in the Notre Dame is completed (after the Ite missa est) by Dubois or Latry.
He is perhaps the most highly respected and distinguished organist in France, working at the absolute center of the French nation. But OK, he's unprofessional. SMH
OK ! Alors, votre commentaire très insultant est encore plus idiot que ce que je ne pensais. Mr. Latry est quelqu'un de très brillant et quoi que vous en pensiez d'extrêmement professionnel. De plus d'une grande modestie.@@dnwitte
Many live in a neurotic "dreamscape" and block out all conflicting reality. But I think this (residing in the darkness) is a personal choice. The alternative is a constant battle against those who would "pull" you into to their "nether world"! But I say, don’t look down some rabbit hole! “look UP, and lift UP your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh” [Luke 21:28].
"Is there a baby on there pounding?" If you don't understand what you are hearing, whether in spoken or musical terms, don't reveal your utter ignorance online for the world to see! 🤨
It is not a baby.. it is satan himself! Cacophonic bullshit! Thank God this satanic music is still silent in Notre Dame for a while ;-) But this cacophonic bullshit suits the Catholic Church: Highway to hell
This is just one example of how everything sacred is being profaned. It happens randomly; and always with a smile. They might mock for a moment; then have an hour of dignity. Or; have a moment of dignity, followed by an hour of profanity! And just as did Montezuma before he was conquered; those with “itching ears” enjoy buffoons! [2 Timothy 4:3-4]. [Awestruck Conquistador Describes Alien World of Tenochtitlan (1519) // Memoir of Bernal Diaz].
You obviously try to defend something `pure`. Accept God being more, than we can imagine, something borderless... My wife is from Syria and I invited her to Cologne Cathedral. After we had enlighted a candle for her mother in Damaskus, leaving the cathedral hand in hand and total devotion... outside, begging a fresh coffee for ''help'' to survive this giant experiance, she silently said after a while: Christianity has so many more treasures by its music history over 1000 years... Islamic music was ''haram'' in all those centuries; and as we all know: for Taliban & Co even until today... Another example: When young people intend to study church music, the first introduction by University-Literature is very often about the very special chance and responsibility as a 'Cantor', to get people ''back'' to church by cultural fascination (singing, instruments, orchestras, a big event like Matthäus-Passion with church-choires and instrumentalists from neighbourhood-communities and so on)... The Cantor inspires people to get (or to go onm being) fascinated by a non verbal christian-inspired alchemy-process. For many active members in modern chruch communities this often is the only, maybe even the last or the true basic anchor, not to leave, but to stay `in` and act. `Many paths lead to Rome`, don`t they ? And didn`t Jesus invite the underdogs, the outsiders, the poor and ill ones, even whores, soldiers...the profanes - totally borderless... Sacred and Profanity are not rivals, they do not need to be seperated: it`s one world, being lit by one sun :) Let`s make a simple counterproof: stretch out your hand 10 cm above any table or cupboard close to you... Do you see the shadow of your hand on the surface ? If you found him: Where is the light ? And who depends on whom ? Who of both is stronger ? Who is a symbol for dark, which one for 'the' light ? My conclusion and advice: Don`t be scary about the dynamic of life, its diversity, its contrasts. I think Jesus wants us to go out by open heart to enjoy all that, sharing your joy with relatives, he wants us to be strong. If you don`t like Oliviers improvisation in this video: Ok, make your choice :) But Oiiviers music is not an attack on your `fortress` of belief. It`s easy: Say no and go further. We do not need to judge something as black or white... I did not like Wagners 'Tristan and Isolde'... Guess, what changed, when I became 50 years old :) Wow little German... you should have become priest after all... no, I chose another way and began to ask: Aren`t we all failing professionals, by being allowed to be incomplete... simply independant... free in the quality of a devote, divine sense ? I understand Latry on his level, when I listen to his music. He wants to be both: a modern profane Cantor, with a hot shining sencere inside him, walking through lonesome deserts and overwealming old fashioned borders in music like a fearless norse from Normandy... J' aime la France, cette Cathédrale, sa Grand Orgue, Latry and his visions, like they took place in the earliest Church, in the days of Paulus - and wasn`t especially Paulus himself a deeply transformed Character ? Thank you for your comment - I totally disagree to your fear. But as you see now, you made me `work this subject` far deeper than usual 🌱 Love from here, vive Notre Dame et sa Reine !
Yeah, every sunday the same. Latry says, improvising in historical styles is a therapeutic thing. So he should do smthg to get healed because he cant. At all!!!
Thank you ! It's normal, I defend Mr. Latry because all these people criticize for no reason and are very aggressive. They don't even know him. Calling him unprofessional and demanding that he be punished is outrageous. Thank you for your support because Mr. Latry, who is the worthy successor of Pierre Cochereau does not deserve such criticism. (excuse me for my limited english 🙂)@@GermanGreetings
@@Mirage5BR Don`t worry...your english is not limited :) I was astonished about this aggression... but this night full of heartbeats, nightmares and much music, to balance that about one a clock, I switched to an Organ-Video from the Basilca in ''Kevalaer sur Rhein'' (comme francais, Vous comprenez ''sur'' )in N-W-Germany (It`s not as famous as Lourdes, but many people are going on a pilgramige to Kevelaer. Maybe you know it anyway). The Organ has power, 'she' is inspired by french organs as many old and new organs in W-Germany, freshly restaured ... and the Organist Elmar Lehnen there is fantastic... Mais zut alors: the same there as well... aggressive and stupid comments ! Thank you for answering ! We keep an eye on that :) I lnow a young american Lady, living in Paris since years now, we are `correspndance`-friends since many years now... we cried together `per Email` live at the screen, when Notre Dame burned down... my first thought that night... the Organ!!! I grew up with `her' majestic power, Apparition, Diex pami nous, Vierne` - and even I live close to Cologne, Altenberg in between wonderful organs: They all are `enfants de la Reine a Notre Dame`. Love to Paris, Mirage ! I take a break... There were so many tears last night, thoughts, I was shocked... because we are so rich and blessed, living in this beautiful world... and those strange guys are angry about everything... Je vais retourner `ici`... I am glad, there is a good old Mirage above Olivier Latry, to protect and defend him. Au revoir, que Dieu vous protège !
A huge thank you for this beautiful message as well as for the instruments you are talking about and which I will discover this weekend when I have free time. A little clarification about me: I speak French but I am of Belgian nationality (French-speaking part of our small country). Thank you again for everything and for your support which is very pleasing! Que Dieu vous protège également !@@GermanGreetings
@@michaelm5926 If you don't understand this in it's own broad context and feel teh need to judge it from your own, that's ok. But it does not do anything helpful or say anything meaningful on the way the mass has been completed by Dubois or Latry - without doubt 2 of the best organists in the world at this moment. Please try to keep an open mind to things that are new to you.
Olivier Latry be like: I have all the pipes, so I am going to use all the pipes
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Sounds like he was improvising in the style of Olivier Messiaen. I enjoy playing the French School.
Honestly if you don't understand it it's whatever... But the complexity of what they're doing is totally astonishing... Not everyone likes late neo-modality.
Honestly to me this is extremely tame and sane.
Agreed. It also demonstrated the awesome power of this instrument.
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Definitely worked for me. I’m an organist. Wish I could improvise like that.
The organist wants the people to leave at the end of the Mass :)
Where I played, the people stayed seated just to listen to the postlude. The only person I would want to leave is you.
That’s the French style of improvisation playing the sortie.
Love it! I mean when you’ve got several thousand pipes at your disposal, it seems a shame not to let it rip!
🤢 Now I know why Catholicism is shrinking in Western countries... it's because of the "French style" 😂
Oui 😁c'est ça :)
It can produce 110 dB at the floor. Loud enough
This is organ improvisation at it's very finest!!!
Exactly John !!!
The music is the result of Tourette syndrome.. 🤣
@@michaelm5926and you are the result of ignorance at its maximum splendor.
@@Talehs___ now now there's no need for snobism here. He did leave a smiley face 😆
@@rotunda57 Joke after joke, the truth emerges.
The ignorance of the uneducated shining through yet again! Just because you don't understand it doesn't make the musician a lunatic. There's many genres of music I don't understand or like, but I appreciate the creativity that's gone into the music, never mind the pride of the people who have made that music! Imagine something you've done being dismissed so casually when you've put your heart and soul into it!
Right... but Olivier Latry can play whatever he wants alone at home or with the few false intellectuals who pretend to like this contemporary noise. Contemporary art is mostly elitism, by which certain people try to pretend that they are better than everyone who has taste or, at least, two ears. Sure, this music is complex. It isn't good. I'd also argue that it isn't very intelligent music. Latry or whoever regretably tolerates that he mistreats the mass-goers in this way should understand his role not only as a liturgical organist, but also as someone who performs to a public who hasn't quite chosen to hear him. Latry shouldn't play with pride. That is exactly the contrary of what his job entails (Musicam Sacram art.62). If he wants to, he's free to do so in a private concert for the 10 or so musicologists who'd want to endure that.
This sort of unintelligent, insipid and atrocious music is a sort of badge, that posey snoots show to distinguish themselves from the "uneducated" and their so-called ignorance, unaware that they're the ridiculous court people, clapping at the naked emperors fine clothes.
@@Rudolph1722 Contemporary art is just as elitist as traditional art. The world of music and art as a whole is somehow competitive. This doesn't necessarily implies that you are on a constant race, as those skills you acquire serve other purposes than surpassing your opponents. Those skills must be particularly special to meet the standards of the titularity in Notre Dame de Paris, wich happens to be the highest aspiration of any french or even european organist. Latry, or whoever is playing, isn't there for no reason, he wasn't chosen randomly. He met the criteria, a big achievement. Of course, the parishers didn't choose who they wan't to listen to, just like they can't choose which organ, but I can assure you that this "noise" doesn't bother any of them. Also, it seems like you are mistaking pride with passion, and there's nothing better than being passionate in your job. Notre Dame de Paris has a long history of what you would call "noisy" musicians and it happens that they were the best careers of their time too. Wonder why... The art. 62 in Musicam Sacram doesn't state instructions on how the organist should play (you aren't forbidden to enjoy the music you play), and not only that, but also encourages him to contribute to a "powerful elevation to the Divine and to the edification of the faithful", and the art.67 demands to "enrich the sacred celebration according to the true nature of each of its parts, and encourage the participation of the faithful": there's nothing better than Notre Dame de Paris and its musicians, then. I'm agnostic and I can tell that these masses and their music bring me closer to God than any other using a few set of flute-sounding pipes or a piano.
This organ itself is intentionally "noisy" (powerful). Its wide range of extremely powerful reeds was made to impress, as requested by the cathedral back then; what's the point of it if you aren't using them? What's the point if you aren't drawing all the stops by pressing that tutti button at least once? Does it sounds noisy? Nah, it sounds powerful and inspiring. Don't get me wrong, I like soft organ music too, but if you are keeping the slow and monotonous liturgy forever, just remove every big organ, replace it with a single-registered portatile organ and stop wasting money, just like the early Middle Ages. After all, the pipe organ developed into what we know today to innovate and expand its capabilities and overcome that monotony, allowing to produce way more complex music.
You can either like it or not, but saying his audience is wrong is plain blatant and rampantly ignorant by the fact that you are judging them purely by their musical taste; I like it the same as I like gregorian chants or romantic operas, and I'm not such a thing as "a fake intellectual who pretends to like his contemporary music". I might be mistaken, but you seem to be one of those who say that everything was better in the past, a repeating topic among all the artists of our history when a new artistic movement is born, and being repeatedly proven wrong. You started by insinuating that contemporary musicians and their followers were like that merely to be superior to the "uneducated and ignorant", yet calling them "false intellectuals" and their "unintelligent, insipid and atrocious music" taste exposes your hypocrisy. It is precisely that kind of people who have some kind of superiority complex. I'm not trying to convince you to like it, and I will repeat: you can either like it or not, but don't judge *people by their musical tastes*; keep it to yourself. I hate heavy metal and I'm not calling its followers braindead because of that
PD: to put the video itself in context I would like to refer to the art.65, particularly here: "it may also be played solo at the beginning before the priest reaches the altar, at the offertory, at the communion, and at the end of mass". This "noisy" improvisations usually take place at the end of the mass, which is called "sortie" in France. They are common, and parishers love it
@@Rudolph1722 who cares what Rudolph 1772 has to say? NOBODY. 🖕🏻😅
@@madberlin now, really, I'm in pain. A lot of pain. I ache horribly. I just can't believe this would happen to me. My life is over.
The very famous madberlin, whose opinion is, in contrast to mine, so valued by the general public has declared my own opinion invalid. What am I to do? I must flee the world, for even in the forests and over the mountains, there will be no place where my words won't fall on deaf ears, now that the great madberlin has spoken. Oh woe! It is as though my mouth has been sewn shut!
May be someone here should open his/her ears and mind to life as it is in 2023. I live in Denmark and in our church we are incredibly lucky to have 2 very skilled organists. One of them is considered to be one of the best, if not the best improvisator in the country. He plays Bach etc. and every single masterpiece by the old French composers ( and former organists of the Notre Dame!) almost prima vista as well as he makes improvisations over the service of the day as a postlude. And we all love him for it Nobody leaves before has ended playing. He is an Asperger with very special skills that have brought him around the world, and you can always tell his mood when you hear him play. Smile - and very often you’ll get a smile in return😊 - And I forgot to mention what happens if you put him in front of a Hammond B3.
Loud and majestic sounds of the organ during the end of a catholic mass is called a postlude.
This is a top performance deeply rooted in the French Organ tradition. Wonderful.
Vraiment :)
I love this. Do you not?
Organ postludes are my favorite bit!
Olivier Latry is by far one of the best…ever. Can’t wait for 2024!
Absolutely beaut, it sounds like Olivier latrey playing, there's no craziness in that music but pure fun and excitmy, well done to the organist.
Absolutley marvelous. Loved the resolution.
Now, this is what I call MUSIC.
YES
I don't understand why this is perceived as madness. It is just passionate improvisation. Kudos also to the organist for landing in a minor mode chord at the end! I would do the same on this organ, in a different style of course. Besides, the little boy seems perplexed, perhaps he feels the newborn organist taking shape in his heart, the little girl disapproves and the lady is really excited. That's right, let the emotions flow out.
No tierce-de-picardy indeed! It's overrated in my opinion. Minor chords are not necessarily sad; just darker.
It is sad that people dont understand the beauty of this organ improvisation made by true genius!
It's sadder to me that they so loudly condemn something they don't understand.
@@dnwitte Yes indeed. On the co trasy most of them are used to primitive pop or rap genres which dont have too much in common with true music....
Looking back, I can understand a child's reaction to this type of improvisation - on a different instrument it may have sounded totally different and more musical. I didn't find Messiaen or Langlais in my childhood but I picked up on it after a Simon Preston Recital at Gloucester Cathedral in the early 80's! I've loved it ever since.
Its so musical to my ears! I love latry
@@chrishoffman.organist I can't wait to hear this glorious instrument back in it's home & being played again!
Thank God this satanic music is still silent in Notre Dame for a while ;-)... But it suits the Catholic Church:
Highway to hell@@markcooke729
Is that Olivier Latry playing?
Yes. Its a lot a noise with absolutely no music.
@ulfnorberg You're not a fan of Latry then?
Yes, I'd say playing is the right word.
@@jasons8479Do you have any idea of the musical complexity behind this, each chord with each modification, for an absolute uneducated person like you to come and give an opinion on something so complex?
I suppose..., no I am sure, it`s Olivier Latry 😇! Only a brilliant unique organist like him, being married with this absolute Queen of Organs, can create such a fantastic improvisation: close to Messiaen, he often made the next steps. This is another beautiful example. We can be glad, that this divine organ-sound was not destroyed by the desastrous fire.
absolutely NOT appropriate for someone to say that. try playing that.
Who wants to try to play like a "genius" with tourette syndrom
Karajan loved it to hand over his Maestro Stick to a critical mind: ''Show me, what you mean... ! ''
(in german: ''...bitte schön... machen Sie es mir vor '')
Years later, there was trouble with the orchestra about a Mahler Symphony, which Karajan in parts wanted to be performed faster than possible... Suddenly the First Cellist came around the orchestra to Karajans pult and said: ''Maestro, machen Sie es mir vor'' (Try Playing that:) It must have been an extremely silent moment, meanwhile not few of the Berliner Philharmonic Members faught like Lions with themselves, to supress a broad smile :) And we all know that situation: It gets worse, when we are not allowed to smile😶🌫🤥😏🤧🤣
The idea is to drive out evil spirits
Probably drove out all the non-evil ones too.
That`s it 😁! Like the medieval dragonheads above the entrances of the scandinavian and slavic stave-churches:
A kind of double ensurance, added to the magic of the christian cross... assisted by the pagean gods from the viking past, to keep all evil spirits and Trolls out :)
Or bratty kids and their annoying tourist families.
A true musician reveals he’s or her’s emotions through music itself. He or She was not insane but rather distressed or angry describing the tone played on the instrument. I know I this sounds philosophical, but from a musician perspective it’s completely normal.
It could have also been in relation to the text of the sermon or if it was a feast day in the church! French organs at full throttle have a very distinctive tone which suits improvisation such as this perfectly suiting to the Roman Catholic liturgy. Such a shame we didn't get to hear the whole thing!
Music's not describing anything
@@orgue2999 yes it does!!🎶🎶🎶
Rubbish
@@darthlinathegreat7489how scary
"What we hear is the quality of our listening" (Robert Fripp)
If you have an organ that powerful then this is the only acceptable way of playing it
Schoenberg would consider this excruciatingly bland.
Understandably letting off steam after enduring yet another hideous liturgy.
I am evangelisch... but i never underestimate a catholic Mass in roman language again :)
When there was the orthodox movement in the times of Cardinal Lefèvre more than 25 years ago, some churches in Germany followed him and returned to a Latin Liturgy... Being young, curious and a Lutheran, I went there, to be prepaired for the many catholic Status-Quo discussions at that time, ...for to understand better, what they were talking about... Wow... what a journey: It made me understand, how the architectural styles of medieval european churches (especially the cathedrals !) were designed, ...were developed and optimized ''around'' the unique sound of the Latin Language :)
Is this guy trying to make church the den of evil?
Forte destroys cathedral from biggest oud music
Sounds pretty much like Latry 😂
It's Vincent Dubois, for sure.
@@milesedgeworth51 Why ?
@@xavier659 because of this style, with lot of accords like toccata, and the harmonic style, very modal, in a style which approach Florentz 😉
@@milesedgeworth51 Not confident whetiher this could be qualified as "modal" tgiven the chords I could (hardly) discern (A #, B, g, d, a), but you might be right. There is, anyway, a grandiose and impressive pathos which Latry did not get me used to. So that could be a second reason why you'd be righr ! ;)
A truly genius! That was Olivier Latry for sure 🤩🤩🤩🎹👍👏
😁:)
This is one of the best! The magnificance.. I have the joy to work in one of the most beautiful old cathedrals of Europe, with one of the most glorious organs in existence with one of the best organists in Europe and it is heaven! Bliss... Give me music like this each day to hear the voice from the heavens. Ignorant people...
Summoning the devil.
Sign of the times. Seriously I think it fantastic, even more so if it's improvised. Note to the Americans - the french have a different 'ear.'; the English consonant -3rds+6ths where the french discordant - w=4ths + 5ths. So the music here will be challenging coming from a consonant background. Change the way you listen to music as such above.
I studied liturgical music in University. I have had the rare opportunity to sit in the organ loft at Notre Dame as Olivier Latry played for and improvised during a mass. And I respect your daughter's opinion!
Olivier latry is a genius
.....and I had the chance to see (and hear) Pierre Cocherau at Notre Dame on a sunday mass. Improvisation at its best !!! Old French tradition. Très bien fait, Maitre Latry !!!! But you should also hear Monsieur Latry accompanying (??) the Magnificat Royal.. So touching, so straight, so heart-warming. I listen to it almost every night. Wonderful !!!
Incredible Improvisation, however understandable that the very live acoustical delay make it sound like cacophony to unreceptive ears, save to those familiar and appreciative of this genre. Perhaps played in a drier acoustical setting the complexity and genius of the music might be more apparent.
This is the way to feel the Triune God with all your heart , all your soul and all your senses !!! You feel the Majesty of the Almighty !!!!
He probably got tired of tinkling out single note stuff and just let himself go for a while.
Like fine wine, this takes a lot of exposure to develop a taste and appreciation.
I found the people-chatter the most annoying noise. The organist did a fine improv, but it was ruined by the people. Someone needs develop an electronic cannon stop to shock the people into a lower noise level.
"Daddy... Is there just a [gets quieter] baby on there, pounding?" 😂😂😂
Is there a proper recoding of this anywhere? It was amazing.
Probably not. It was improvised on the spot. This is it.
@@dnwitteI do not want to imagine, how many improvisations of this value by Widor, Vierne, Messiaen & Co are lost: not written down ...and not even recorded like this one.
Beautiful music
We love Olivier Latry. Honestly I don't think it sounds bad. Loud yes but musically interesting
C' est fort :)
100% Oliver Latrey.
Hmmm, seems this majestic music was a little 'beyond' some of those present. Oh well... 😕
Notre dame fire theme
Beautiful
Great improv. I play but can’t do this. Congratulations to one who can.
The organist is possessed.
We call it Trance :)
Virgil Fox said that he himself, had played for hours in a trance; [book: "Virgil Fox (The Dish)"]. And I also read of an observer who saw Virgil's eyes rolled back while playing; (a known sign of possession). And I have been “pounced” on myself; so I am not trying to be mean to anybody.
(And GermanGreetings, I am going to try to work on a reply to your long comment).
@@jgreg9706Thank you for answering - and sorry about my `Trance`-joke: it`s a french word :) German normally is a rich language - but we lacked many words about kitchen, wellness e.g. Our cultures were quite different because of tzhe antique roman Limes-Wall. France was far more influenced by the toman culture, meanwhile german tribes had to be forced until the xear of ca. 1000 AD, to take over Christianity... we filled our vocabulry up with French first, it was Europes Court Language No1... English and Italian came later and became stronger then... the court Language became english, many german blue blooded families are related to english royals til today...as you know I suppose.
It`s fascinating, what you tell about Virgils `Ekstase, Trance, Meditation, inner journey`
I thought about the New Testament, were the devifels talked `in tongues` - Zungenrede in german. Medieval Ministrels are often painted with closed eyes... all that fits to Virgil, rolling his eyes `inside`.
Jay Severson - Such ignorance! And look at the throng of tourists. I guess you were one of them! Olivier Latry or Vincent Dubois
WOW...Wat an impressive Sound....and improviation ....
I.m very curious....to hear more ....
From ...this Organ...with choir...and Trumpet .
search "sortie." kinda French for improvisation.
I must be without taste because to me that sounded like a bunch of loud noise, a cacophony of noise without structure or purpose.
Oh to have been there and experienced it.
C'était en général à la fin de la Messe du dimanche soir. L'organiste terminait allongé sur les claviers. Tonitruante impression.
Olivier Latry est le meilleur des organistes 🤩🤩🤩🤩🥲😭
It makes me think of the war in Heaven 😇 absolutely spectacular, especially coming from an organist/pianists standpoint
"Speak UP Reba! I can't hear you. That organ thing is making too much noise."
Pope John XXII: "Complex polyphony entices only the ear and not the soul, and will tempt our flock into impiety."
The modern church: "Hold my sacramental wine..."
Olivier Latry's bored. Prolly he didn't know what to do next except to fall in love with his organ
It's a perfectly improvisation :-)
Hello love.
Rather get yourself educated.
Then you will appreciate the musical talent and exceptional effort which i at work here.
There is years of dedication and blood-sweat to produce this music.
Don't judge.
(This post indicates to me that you are church-going folk, which is excellent. But your post also indicates that you need to get educated about the diversity in this world which the chuch is trying to alleviate and join in love and harmony).
Broad smile: I wrote something similar here eleven months later :)
Typical french organ improv.
I hope the great Lady sings again soon.
It’s a wonderful madness
Gothic organ music. Beautiful!
Dear Mr. Severson, I hope you never intend to erase this historic Video from YT, although some `old socks` are not grateful here...
It`s a unique source of this improvisation, I suppose - and the discussions and disputes growing out of this French Music Eruption poewered by Mr. Latry in Notre Dame... that`s pure liquid gold !
Your cute daughter at the end of this video is a super special divine moment, because she leads all the dicussions back to their origins. `Our (former) little Lady` (...Notre Dame:) reminds us smoothly, who and what we are: entering life as a child, and leaving it as we `chose`... In angriness as grim people, erecting walls... or we bewared the treasure of kindness, interest and simplicity, as only children can teach us :)
Your little princess behaved totally natural as a girl of her age... and she is so honest about the loud and strange athmosphre (because of a baby, did I understand that right ? )...
And then she throttles her complex multitasking down at once, when her mother `organises` a lower voice-level in this sudden silence... And she smiles, although it is such a fast, surprising manouver, feeling ashamed a bit... ej: AND she smiles :)
You are good parents to her - moments like this one reveal christal clear: she got an `education of heart`, and her short smile reflects all your love to her in such a fine and gentle way...
it causes tears, just thinking about this short intensive moment, filled up with sensibility, care, being astonished... Maybe you remind her, how beautiful and wonderful she is !
And she will remain the true `third dimension` to all the polarising discussions about music in this comment-section, as long as you share this video here... I am sure: Jesus likes it, ''inviting the children to him this way, and no one shall hinder them...'` Ok. Currently we have to add: '' Don`t worry, no one shall harm them behind any closed doors... I am a father and grand-godfather either: That hurts...
So the more we all can be glad, that Notre Dame and her giant Organ will return soon after the horrible fire 4 years ago. I hope, we get these magic words from the mountain restaured... a project for generations... may organs and cathedrals be strong tools for that.
Thank you for your former Idea, to make a trip to Paris :) And thank you for sharing this treasure with us. God bless you !
P.S. I found another music, ...same place, same organ. Again it suddenly will get a bit majestic here and there. Maybe you mind crying babies in your neighbourhood... it`s Notre Dame, so for you it will be like coming home quasi...
ruclips.net/video/iHj6NR6H0tc/видео.html
the walls may collapse.
Notre Dame was on fire.. as we all know.. 😉
I heard from Britain, that in one church the amount of concert visitors must be counted before letting them in. If there are not enough people, the deepest 64` Bass Register of the Organ may not be used in the concert... because of resonnances rising like waves in a storm. Maybe someone reading this knows about the name of this chrurch ?
@@GermanGreetings I thought there only was two 64" ranks in the world, one being on the Midmer-Losh in Atlantic City. So yours must be the other.
Let everything be done decently and in order. God is Not is NOT THE AUTHOR OF CONFUSION PLAIN THUS SAITH THE LORD
Which is why French improvisations are so well structured.
Don`t slip through under the basic fences. That`s far too simple. Do you bash all the things, you do not understand in life ?
If they heard this at a rock concert, they would be cheering.
Certified Latry moment.
A slightly mad Messaein
You are a stupid shit
@@elgar57 It's a term of expression, grow up kid.
Sorry, we don't need a "Messaein". Not even a mad "Messaein"🤣
Déjà, on écrit : "Messiaen".
Cela nous démontre déjà bien votre niveau de connaissances musicales.
Vous n'avez rien compris. Limitez-vous à ce que vous pouvez apprécier.@@michaelm5926
Angry Baby Playing Baby Shark
Quel commentaire idiot !
Often the postlude is a chance for the organist to demostrate his/her virtuosity and imprvisational skills. In addition, it demosntrates what the instrument is capable of.
Love the improvisation.
Magnificent!
Presumably a Latry improvisation!
Too bad that only the end was captured... that one sounds so fine !
This is incredible!!
that i think was the end of toccata in b miner by egune gigout a french composer
Definitely not! Gigout was not nearly as dissonant as this improv
Latry goes crazy, as usual :D
"Comme d'habitude"... Pauvre ignorant!
Olivier Latry est un musicien (un grand maître) qui est le digne successeur de Pierre Cocherau. Le traiter de fou est une très grave insulte mais qui révèle bien votre bêtise (musicale) et votre méchanceté. Passez votre chemin et laissez les personnes comme nous que cette musique touche, l'apprécier...
@@Mirage5BR You must have misunderstood me, his improvisations are crazy. I couldn't improvise something like that. It reflects the French tradition started by Tournemire and followed by Cochereau...
I'm more sympathetic to the branch started by César Frank and followed by Vierne, but that branch is dead, so...
I don't know what offended you, maybe some translation problem between English and French, it can happen... but I'm not knocking Latry.
So please forgive the "ignorant" and enjoy music.
@@xReMmiXX He did it to me too---totally flamed me out of misunderstanding my comment. The guy doesn't seem to understand English expression and goes straight to rage and insults.
Just an unrestrained cacophany of sound
If you don't understand this, you can just say so.
Actually no it's not.
Just because he can ...
Sietze de Vries is much better.
Le problème est que personne ne connaît ce "Sietze"... 🤣
S'il était bien meilleur, ça se saurait !
Beautiful ❤
De gustibus non disputandum est.
🎹 These critics would moan and tch-tch if they heard Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D minor played on this incredible instrument.
May find their enjoyment sitting back and listening to Billy Joel stumble through another round of Piano Man.
These are the people who think the music of Marty Haugen and Bob Schutte represents the crest and pinnacle of Catholic musical expression.
Is it any wonder a fire was had upon it. This is hideous, absolutely hideous. ……..Monstrous!
Buena mezcla de musica y ruido estentoreo, tipica francesa.
Despite its acceptability in musical academia this is a very unhelpful way to complete a sacramental service. It sounds like, and belongs in, Phantom of the Opera.
If you don't understand this in it's own context, and judge it from your own context, that's ok, but does not say anything helpful on the way the mass in the Notre Dame is completed (after the Ite missa est) by Dubois or Latry.
Virtually every great church in France begs to differ.
He must be investigate and punish for disrespecting the sacred things. This organist was so unprofessional
Allez, encore un commentaire d'ignorant empli de bêtise.
"Il doit être puni"... mais quel con !
C'est lassant de lire ces commentaires "bas de gamme".
He is perhaps the most highly respected and distinguished organist in France, working at the absolute center of the French nation. But OK, he's unprofessional. SMH
Il n'est pas professionnel ?
Il est professeur d'orgue au Conservatoire ! "Il doit être puni..." : quelle blague !@@dnwitte
@@Mirage5BR
Je sais, d'où viennent ces gens ?
OK !
Alors, votre commentaire très insultant est encore plus idiot que ce que je ne pensais.
Mr. Latry est quelqu'un de très brillant et quoi que vous en pensiez d'extrêmement professionnel. De plus d'une grande modestie.@@dnwitte
Absolutely hideous. Nothing but distracting noise.
Gênant ? Tout comme votre commentaire blessant. Passez votre chemin, pauvre ignorant...
Since it's called a 'sortie', maybe you should see yourself out.
Go educate yourself
Look at all the pretentious people pretending to like it in the comments.
Many live in a neurotic "dreamscape" and block out all conflicting reality. But I think this (residing in the darkness) is a personal choice. The alternative is a constant battle against those who would "pull" you into to their "nether world"! But I say, don’t look down some rabbit hole! “look UP, and lift UP your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh” [Luke 21:28].
Why are you all shaking your heads at this? What is wrong with you?
ignorance vs the inspired improvisations of the organist...go figure
"Is there a baby on there pounding?"
If you don't understand what you are hearing, whether in spoken or musical terms, don't reveal your utter ignorance online for the world to see! 🤨
It is not a baby.. it is satan himself! Cacophonic bullshit! Thank God this satanic music is still silent in Notre Dame for a while ;-) But this cacophonic bullshit suits the Catholic Church:
Highway to hell
Such a rude little girl.
This is just one example of how everything sacred is being profaned. It happens randomly; and always with a smile. They might mock for a moment; then have an hour of dignity. Or; have a moment of dignity, followed by an hour of profanity! And just as did Montezuma before he was conquered; those with “itching ears” enjoy buffoons! [2 Timothy 4:3-4]. [Awestruck Conquistador Describes Alien World of Tenochtitlan (1519) // Memoir of Bernal Diaz].
You obviously try to defend something `pure`. Accept God being more, than we can imagine, something borderless...
My wife is from Syria and I invited her to Cologne Cathedral. After we had enlighted a candle for her mother in Damaskus, leaving the cathedral hand in hand and total devotion... outside, begging a fresh coffee for ''help'' to survive this giant experiance, she silently said after a while: Christianity has so many more treasures by its music history over 1000 years...
Islamic music was ''haram'' in all those centuries; and as we all know: for Taliban & Co even until today...
Another example:
When young people intend to study church music, the first introduction by University-Literature is very often about the very special chance and responsibility as a 'Cantor', to get people ''back'' to church by cultural fascination (singing, instruments, orchestras, a big event like Matthäus-Passion with church-choires and instrumentalists from neighbourhood-communities and so on)... The Cantor inspires people to get (or to go onm being) fascinated by a non verbal christian-inspired alchemy-process. For many active members in modern chruch communities this often is the only, maybe even the last or the true basic anchor, not to leave, but to stay `in` and act.
`Many paths lead to Rome`, don`t they ? And didn`t Jesus invite the underdogs, the outsiders, the poor and ill ones, even whores, soldiers...the profanes - totally borderless...
Sacred and Profanity are not rivals, they do not need to be seperated: it`s one world, being lit by one sun :)
Let`s make a simple counterproof: stretch out your hand 10 cm above any table or cupboard close to you... Do you see the shadow of your hand on the surface ? If you found him: Where is the light ? And who depends on whom ? Who of both is stronger ? Who is a symbol for dark, which one for 'the' light ?
My conclusion and advice: Don`t be scary about the dynamic of life, its diversity, its contrasts. I think Jesus wants us to go out by open heart to enjoy all that, sharing your joy with relatives, he wants us to be strong. If you don`t like Oliviers improvisation in this video: Ok, make your choice :) But Oiiviers music is not an attack on your `fortress` of belief.
It`s easy: Say no and go further. We do not need to judge something as black or white... I did not like Wagners 'Tristan and Isolde'... Guess, what changed, when I became 50 years old :)
Wow little German... you should have become priest after all... no, I chose another way and began to ask: Aren`t we all failing professionals, by being allowed to be incomplete... simply independant... free in the quality of a devote, divine sense ?
I understand Latry on his level, when I listen to his music. He wants to be both: a modern profane Cantor, with a hot shining sencere inside him, walking through lonesome deserts and overwealming old fashioned borders in music like a fearless norse from Normandy... J' aime la France, cette Cathédrale, sa Grand Orgue, Latry and his visions, like they took place in the earliest Church, in the days of Paulus - and wasn`t especially Paulus himself a deeply transformed Character ?
Thank you for your comment - I totally disagree to your fear. But as you see now, you made me `work this subject` far deeper than usual 🌱 Love from here, vive Notre Dame et sa Reine !
Yeah, every sunday the same. Latry says, improvising in historical styles is a therapeutic thing. So he should do smthg to get healed because he cant. At all!!!
Dear Francois, your understanding of music sounds to me slightly reduced. Sorry to say that.......
@@dieter1457 ruclips.net/video/KyIFXsGJgcI/видео.html
Thank God this satanic music is still silent in Notre Dame for a while ;-) @@dieter1457
Mais pauvre ignorant, vous ne lui arriverez jamais à la cheville !
Vos commentaires idiots ne font que confirmer votre ignorance.
Satanic
widen you horizons :)
I’m sorry. This is a cacophony. The organ is my favourite instrument and i appreciate improvisation. But this is just noise. NOT music.
Eh bien, remettez vous en question et réécoutez, vous apprécierez. 😀
@@Mirage5BRThank you for your patience...
Thank you ! It's normal, I defend Mr. Latry because all these people criticize for no reason and are very aggressive. They don't even know him. Calling him unprofessional and demanding that he be punished is outrageous. Thank you for your support because Mr. Latry, who is the worthy successor of Pierre Cochereau does not deserve such criticism. (excuse me for my limited english 🙂)@@GermanGreetings
@@Mirage5BR Don`t worry...your english is not limited :) I was astonished about this aggression... but this night full of heartbeats, nightmares and much music, to balance that about one a clock, I switched to an Organ-Video from the Basilca in ''Kevalaer sur Rhein'' (comme francais, Vous comprenez ''sur'' )in N-W-Germany (It`s not as famous as Lourdes, but many people are going on a pilgramige to Kevelaer. Maybe you know it anyway).
The Organ has power, 'she' is inspired by french organs as many old and new organs in W-Germany, freshly restaured ... and the Organist Elmar Lehnen there is fantastic...
Mais zut alors: the same there as well... aggressive and stupid comments !
Thank you for answering ! We keep an eye on that :) I lnow a young american Lady, living in Paris since years now, we are `correspndance`-friends since many years now... we cried together `per Email` live at the screen, when Notre Dame burned down... my first thought that night... the Organ!!!
I grew up with `her' majestic power, Apparition, Diex pami nous, Vierne` - and even I live close to Cologne, Altenberg in between wonderful organs: They all are `enfants de la Reine a Notre Dame`.
Love to Paris, Mirage ! I take a break...
There were so many tears last night, thoughts, I was shocked... because we are so rich and blessed, living in this beautiful world... and those strange guys are angry about everything... Je vais retourner `ici`...
I am glad, there is a good old Mirage above Olivier Latry, to protect and defend him.
Au revoir, que Dieu vous protège !
A huge thank you for this beautiful message as well as for the instruments you are talking about and which I will discover this weekend when I have free time. A little clarification about me: I speak French but I am of Belgian nationality (French-speaking part of our small country). Thank you again for everything and for your support which is very pleasing!
Que Dieu vous protège également !@@GermanGreetings
This is the result of letting free jazz pianists play the organ. But it suits the Catholic Church:
Highway to hell
stay quiet my heretic friend
🤣👍 Best comment ever to this cacophonic noise!
@@michaelm5926 If you don't understand this in it's own broad context and feel teh need to judge it from your own, that's ok. But it does not do anything helpful or say anything meaningful on the way the mass has been completed by Dubois or Latry - without doubt 2 of the best organists in the world at this moment. Please try to keep an open mind to things that are new to you.
@marcopol217 the same answer to you.
What nonsense. Latry and Dubois are not free jazz pianists. And I'd say the highway to hell is paved by the likes of Marty Haugen and Bob Schutte.