The Patch That Killed Overwatch 2 | Season 11 Patch Notes
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This patch was designed to convince people we need to go back to 6v6.
I think it's time for 5v6
Ok
HOW ABOUT 8V8?
Ok
Just put me on the team that has 6, and i'm all for it.
I think it's time for 8v2 with the way tank balance is going
Tank players "We dont want overbuffed busted raid boss tanks we just want the role not to feel miserable"
Balance team: "So anyway i started buffin...."
Lol fr like i honestly think those buffs where not needed if they just did the dps passive change it wouldn't be bad lol i dont think people want tank too br busted we just don't want too br a punching bag and the only team reliant role 😂
Promised consort Mauga is probably the hardest boss in over ring 2: shadow of the life tree
And now tanks are fun again...what's the problem
@@gallonthegreat7036 They aren't, this changed very little actually...you live longer sure but make no mistake you can still explode and you will still be the main recipient of the enemy teams attention and cooldowns. This doesn't make it fun it just prolongs the suffering.
@@MannyMulattoPlays Okay so by your perspective you live longer but deal with everyone tryna snowball....
THAT'S THE POINT OF THIS BUFF TO DEAL WITH ALL THAT N STILL DO TANK THINGS LOL....
So everybody wants Pharah nerfed...so they nerf Cass, one of her best counters. Cool.
They also nerfed Pharah tho
@@azseal2669 barely
@@azseal2669they nerfed 30 dmg every 7 seconds. lol
@@azseal2669gave her a slap on her wrist dawg
@@TheGreatMaouThat's not barely. I use that ability to finish people off all the time. This tremendously kills off her lethality especially at range
Yeah team 4 needs to get the fuck out they have no clue on what they are doing
They really don't deserve a salary
@@thenotsogreatape933 i don't like this patch either but keep in mind that a large part of the team got laid off and so that's probably why the patch is like this LMAO. I still think they deserve a chance to improve from this
@@ScripFing they have tried time and time again cannot get better copium is a dangerous drug
@@ScripFing Deserve ANOTHER CHANCE? they have had far too many
@@ScripFingThis is cope. They sucked before lay offs and they’ve sucked way after lay offs
I think overwatch devs are trying to avoid the 6v6 debate by buffing and buffing endlessly. But im quite curious about what Aaron is gonna cook on that 6v6 debate / vlog.
Im a 6v6 advocate but I am almost certain that its just gonna be "Why 6v6 wont return" just to put it down and people will stop talking about it, and if thats true then I can finally move on to another game
They can never go back to 6v6 because then that’s them admitting overwatch 2 was a complete failure and was basically just a shop update.
If they went back to 6v6, they admit overwatch 2 was a ripoff.
@@mrragecage9312 If that's the way people are going to look at it, they most certainly will never go back to 6 v 6.
@@brucewig22the worst thing is that it would still be arguably better for the franchise.
People are passionate about Overwatch because it won GOTY for a reason. The very least they could do is bring back the game we all loved and build from there whatever the new team may want to make.
I know aaron is in tears knowing he has to make a dev blog about this
At this point I can't take any dev blog seriously anymore
aaron doesn't cry anything but money, he's a whore.
This was the stupidest patch I have ever seen from blizzard in a long time. Buffed tanks in all the wrong ways to make them enjoyable while also making every other role miserable to play against them. Tanks will probably be even more miserable with these changes but hey at least we all are going to join them.
I'm a Ball main and I'm just pissed. Most of the time I can't share!
The biggest diffrence is is they have boosted dps and healing so much instead of nerfing it to make the game more well rounded they only are buffing out the ass instead of sayinv ok lets wipe the slate start from the begining and tweak that way but there not and im a tank player only buffs i think are ok is 300 pin rien, and the 120 accretion increase since they boosted health pools but thats is
What are you waffling about lmao@@lazerbeam9900
Hey hey hey, did we not learn anything from season 9? Let's go try it than get angry 😂
@@Antonio-ys5zd yeah wtf is up with that??
As a Reinhardt Main... I don't want to play Dead by Daylight. I don't want to be a raid boss. I just want to be a part of the team. The only reason why Tank was so much fun in OW1 was because I had the capacity to take space and adequately threaten the backline enough to open opportunities for my dps to assassinate or chip damage enough before I have to seek cover or get bailed out by my second tank when I am overextended enough to catch me out in OW2. The window of time to threaten the backline is practically non existant with the dmg numbers of ow2, and this patch demonstrates the ignorance of the dev team to understand that the point of the 2nd tank was to maintain parity among all roles by preventing exactly what they are doing. At this rate... We need to eliminate the second dps and support and go to 3v3.
Bro chill you ain't no raid boss, you're going to sit there holding shield for the whole game
@@Lankytank17 Rein definately is a monster raid boss when you compare him to the other non tank characters. Its just compared to the other tanks, without a second tank to back him he's really not able to do nearly as much especially now that all the other tanks are even more hyper buffed monster kaijus now. Especailly mauga.
You know tank is playable when the queue times are longer than
You know tank is *busted* when the queue times are longer than
What? You both got it wrong do you not know how < works
@@GregsTurtle123 If I am not completely misremembering, but when you queue, doesn't the estimated time say "
@@GregsTurtle123 you know tank is playable when the queue times are longer than greater than
sub 10 qp queues
As a tank player… WTAF. I didn’t think the game could get worse but I’m constantly proved wrong smh
rein deserves pin buff, sometimes awkwardly people like mei/reaper survives which is a stupid feeling
doom buff is pretty ok, ram pretty much fell off so buffs were needed, winston secondary buff is fine
but JQ Mauga Zarya Orisa buff is too over the top, Zarya and JQ already have great standing esp JQ previous buffs to rampage and shout
edit: DVA is decent, her damage feels way too low anyway, hog buff is ok since its pig pen anyway not hook, or shots, ball... if you're a good player buffs or nerfs doesnt really matter imo there's no in between
They just messeed up Rams cooldowns and NO ONE NOTICED? what the hell is going on with the developers...
Flats noticed since chat told him on his upload
@@liltayvert3095 I didn't know Flats worked on the development team.
Their QA team is sleeping ngl
@@liltayvert3095 who is flats
@@itsalittleloud7799 One of the more prominent Overwatch content creators.
Every single title of ow update logs:
TANKS ARE DEAD, THE GAME IS UNPLAYABLE
-mid season patch: theres still hope
-WORST UPDATE EVER
-BLIZZARD KILLED OVERWATCH
- new season drops
- yt video: "Did they fix the [role/hero] issue?!"
- midseason patch approaches, cautiously optimistic
- patch drops, flats uploads video with happy thumbnail
- other youtuber posts "OVERWATCH IS DEAD" video
- coinflip on which the community believes
- few months pass, different hero becomes meta due to players having time to adapt
- new season drops
- yt video: "Did they fix the [role/hero] issue?!"
I wonder what's causing this issue... it's almost like you can't drastically alter the format of the game without fundamentally redesigning every hero in the role..... no way.....
@@mrdeadmemesFlats was actually critical this time, slightly surprising
true, true. I dont mind anybody having any opinions, but for me, Ive been enjoying the game fine ever since season 1
@@Megggazapit probably sucks a lot in higher ranks, since counterswapping is 10x worse, or the very bottom ranks where tanks are unkillable
I think this gotta be a late April fools joke.
Not even tank players wanted this. Even flats is saying this is an awful patch. It doesn't fix the issues that make tank feel awful to play while simultaneously making dps and support feel worse to play. This is a lose-lose situation.
To add on, counter swapping is even more incentivized and is more impossible to overcome
Facts! Played some bastion with the new skin, and sometimes against Ram or Mauga, I would see their health literally go UP while shooting them in turret form
@@AVHD2Eskay posted a clip of nano + dmg boosted bastion turret form, barely tickling a blocking ram. And also another clip, not by Eskay, where damage boosted + windowed bastion in turret form died before the enemy Mauga did
@@TamWam_ In the context of a blocking ram, all they did was give him an extra 75 health. Because block already does 75%, none of the armor changes affect anything in that situation. The changes literally only let a blocking ram live one singular second longer against a bastion. As for the other clip, that such an unrealistic clip that it's effectively like trying to show how OP something is by shooting training range bots. In any real game, the instant mauga pressed his E, the other tank in the game would have just held shield or eat and completely negated all of his life steal. Plus in any real game, more people than just the bastion would have been shooting through window and that mauga would have died so much faster. If anything, the mauga changes are a nerf because the drastically reduced duration makes it soo easy to negate the entirety of his E.
@@jerod4036Found the bronze player
Remember when events gave skins without buying em
I think that whoever's queuing for tank after this patch will be waiting at least an hour
Nah it will be instant queue in like a week once they realize this makes tanks less fun to play as. They keep buffing the wrong things in tanks leading to them continually dropping in numbers.
2 hours after patch release queue time for tank QP in EU is around 20 mins lol, while dps 4 mins and support 2 mins
one minute only for tank
Wrong. It will be even WORSE because counter swapping will be worse than before
@@RIP_ZYZZ1738 True, RIP fun 🙄
Marvel Rivals looking better each and every week.
fr
Facts
Can’t wait for it
Widowmaker:
Now cannot hit tanks. If a tank is hit, the game shuts down.
Developer comment:
We thought it was too hard for a tank to oneshot widowmaker at the high risk of being tickled by widowmaker's primary fire, so we're doing this in the hope the dps queue times gets at
Just go back to 6v6 already, this proves that they don't know what tf to do in the 5v5 environment. Can't believe how resistant they are to just making the game better.
I want 6 v 6 back. But they will be just as clueless with 6 v 6. Game is never going to be as fun as the pre-brig days.
@@KlyttoriusExactly this. The minute she was added, it was the beginning of the end.
Just tested these changes and Ramattra actually got heavily nerfed because his Nemesis Form went from a 7 second cooldown to 11 seconds for some reason
ALl his cooldowns are 11, its a bug since they can't code correctly to save their life
Its a bug.
How the fuck do you mess this shit up
He can tank a nano damage boosted bastion shootin him point blank
It's a "bug" but in reality they just messed up the code. Which I'm not sure how that's possible. Do they not have a debugger or someone who checks over the code before it is published? For such a big company I would assume they would have atleast one employee for this purpose. Perhaps their budget can't squeeze in such an expensive employee considering debugging is a high paying job.
Samito punching the air 😂
Nah he’s vindicated asf because he’s being proven right. He’s been fighting for damn near a year and now people will start understanding
@@RIP_ZYZZ1738he’s mentioned a bunch of times that buffing tanks won’t do anything but amplify the countering even more, after this he’s gonna be proven right once again
@@Jeremy_-eu4cs The last thing left is Reddit people being convinced
“yes! 😁👍 yes! 😀👍”
Really? Those are the audio updates they went with??? I have a brand new steelseries headset and junkrat can walk up directly behind me and I hardly hear a fu ckin thing. Yet in the killcam I can hear my own footsteps like a damn stampede!
If I hadn’t dropped so much money into this game I’d be in tears. I’m simply in denial and waiting for the new support
Watching Cass be playable and not the worst dps for 1 season before being absolutely gutted, then further kicked down to F tier over the course of 2 weeks has been devastating. I hope they add clown makeup to his face in the next patch to fit with the joke that he is.
Cass was the best hitscan in the game before this patch what do you mean
@@lukaskback9710 ignore him, hes probably a bronze
Cass was meta for brawl for many many seasons. This nerf won't touch him especially since the other hitscan are okay at best.
what are you smoking, 5 meters isn’t going to do a whole lot cass is still really viable. fucking weirdo
@@muzankibutsuji8919 Cass has been good or great for a long time but this nerf is huge. It doesn’t sound like a lot but just go into practice range and shoot some bots at mid range and you’ll notice how big the damage drop-off is.
Blizzard can't understand the difference between giving tanks more options vs just straight buffing heroes. If I'm able to have more counterplay to hard counters without straight up buffing my character that's what I want.
Tank players weren't asking for buffs, they were asking to not be counter swapped, CC'd ad nauseam.
Knowing B.O.B. has tank passive, does he also have the DPS damage passive?
He does I think
Yes.
Bro is a dps and tank. Give him support passive
B.O.B The first hybrid role hero!
just played and it feels very boring to do dps and some of the tanks or horrible and illari i can see becoming meta with her pylon and she can just turn and do dps while it heals her team mates tbh this 5v5 format just really sucks they need to nerf all the tanks and just bring back 6v6 so they all can work
The problem is that blizzard doesnt know the difference between a role being underpowered and a role just simply not being fun. Tank was perfectly balanced if not too strong before the patch. It just felt like shit to play because of counter picking and being the kill target. The fact that tanks posed so much of a threat that teams counterpicked and targetted them in the first place is evidence tank was strong. Blizzard, in their typical room temperature iq fashion, decides that since tank isn't fun that means you have to buff every tank in the game. Complete incompetence.
"Developer Comments: Junker Queen is relatively small and fast for a Tank hero, so Commanding Shout doesn't need a ton of bonus health to be effective. The increased wound healing better rewards her for managing her abilities well." - Team 4
(literally the next line) "Commanding Shout
Overhealth increased from 150 to 175 HP" - also team 4
bruh i cant with this dev team
I think that compared to the other tanks +25hp every 17 seconds ain't gonna help her much. Rein and Zarya just run you over, Sigma hits one rock and you die...
I think the point is that could have given her 50-75 overhealth but only decided to give her 25.
@@GriseWeissharkthat’s what they said. They said commanding shout doesn’t need a ton of extra health. So they only gave it a little extra health
7:26 the life steal is the craziest buff/mid season patch I have ever seen on an already broken character. And I’ve been playing this game since 2016
Playing support is absolutely cancer this season. I've never played OW1 but wouldn't 6v6 make more sense than giga buffing tanks?
As someone that has played OW1, yes 2 tanks makes more sense than this.
As someone who played OW1 I NEVER want 6v6 in this game ever again. Skip that and just go all out with 7v7
@@deathb1ossom 1v1 Tank vs Tank. Take it or leave it.
@@InsomniacUN 7v7 with 3 tanks-but all Wintons. Take it or leave it.
Bro supports have it easy😂 can do dmg, most have great survivability, and can heal bot. Can also counter swap literally every hero in game. Can do bad as a long as you land important utility. Idk chief. And now you can heal tank more effectively right?
I love your “oh!” 😂 that’s so me
Expectation: Wow, I'm finally able to play the game without melting instantly for being out of mitigation/cover for 1 second
Reality: Wow, the enemy tank swapped to my counter and now I can't even play the game because I'm unable to even have a chance at outplaying my counter
For fucking real
Countres don't exist
@@aephos.overwatchCommit slip and slide
@@RIP_ZYZZ1738 Doom is like the only tank that can get super hard countred.
@@aephos.overwatch Orisa is the only one that can’t. Zarya does, Dva does, Roadhog does, Reinhardt definitely does. You’re clueless and shouldn’t speak so confidently while having worthless input
As mercy, when u revive a teammate, it doesn't give you the xp for reviving them, nore does it count it for total revives.
So all these buffs but no reaper changes, and no Hanzo one shot back. Wth.
Us reaper mains aint doing so hot
The worst part is that Reaper was actually kind of good after his change. But we know heroes like Hanzo and Reaper can’t be good for long
tank busters shouldnt be strong. until they rework characters like Bastion or Reaper, they shouldnt be allowed to be strong with a tank buster kit unless they actually change it.
Man reaper has been creeping this season tbh. I low-key except someone to be reaper every game and pop off with him.
wdym reaper even better now. reaper is op against tanks as he jsut has to get close to them and boom the tanks is dead. if they buff tanks then hes worth even more
The Overwatch classification should be one in the open format, but it would be like this:
You chose 2 tanks and you can't choose more or 2 dps or 2 healers, it would be 5 against 5 but with a limit of two heroes for each role, that is, you could have different compositions with balanced tanks, you could play 2 tanks, 2 dps and a healer, or 1 tank, 2 dps and 2 heals or 2 tanks, 1 dps and 2 heals, this would be a general rank avoiding trolling like the game in such a role I will troll and also the game would have the balance of the old combos in a balanced and intelligent way. Only Blizzard would do this to reduce the queue time because it would be one thing and it would also continue 5v5
•When I say balanced tank it is in the open queue format with less life, because by function since there can only be one tank as mandatory they have to be acquired with exaggerated life and exaggerated damage, and the way I said it wouldn't work To have 3 of each hero making a break like 3 tanks and two heals or some role left out, because there would necessarily have to be at least 1 of each role and a maximum of 2 of each role.
Is it just me or are the servers becoming unplayable on console half of my games they crash before the round even starts
this makes me happy, people who were making fun of 6v6 players and every tank player getting flamed in chat endlessly, now we call be miserable together guys!.
What's up with the "wide group" or something when looking for a ranked? I wanted to come back to the game with a friend but it keeps matching for over 20 mins and one of the two games we played was with literal bots. We have the same estimated rank in placements, still taking so long. Also lobbies are full of russians. Is the game really so dead?
Thinking that over buffing tanks would solve the problem is so fucking stupid, it just made them more miserable, cuz they have so much value that you are almost forced to counterswap
They turned bob into a lvl 3 torb turret noooooooooo
"All tanks mega buff"
Then there's Ball... With an adjustment
100% mauga life steal I’m so fucking done
Is there a full video to this somewhere?
6v6 please THIS PATCH SUCKS
13:25 that sound about sums this patch up 😂
as a tank main, on one hand, yay buffs
on the other hand, is this even gonna fix anything?
Im getting more 4v4 in my games with people leaving on both teamz server issue frfr
Mauga, Sigma, Junker, and Zar are gonna be so ridiculous, Winston as well, dont even know what to say
And doom in your face all the time now as well
@@alfredocaceres4680 doom is still mid so it really doesn't matter
i miss mid-season 3 triage healer mercy xD
Idk… If I am knocked further back does that mean Phara has more time to shoot me again?
There’s no way
14:08 HyaaHyett… do you live under a rock?!
feels like this patch is like an experimental patch or april fools patch
How does that even attempt to solve the counter picking and no tank synergy problems, which is what makes tanks boring?
So Hanzo just can't kill ANYTHING without a pocket now.
What the fuck were they thinking?
So bob sleeps for 3 seconds instead of the whole time
Did they just break their game?
Give me my fckn hanzo buff man. Im sick of this tank buster hanzo stuff. Make the arrows smaller and make them lethal to the head. Thats it.
As a tank player who's taking a break to play some support w/ Zen (who's also been playing OW since season 9)... *deep breath* very, very annoyed right now
Mercy hasnt got any rez voicelines
Yay I tank is kinda playable again 😂
MAUGA WAS THE ONLY TANK THAT NEEDED A NERF AND THEY FAILED
Thank god marvel rivals is coming out soon
Reaper nerfed again😢
And somehow they forgot to nerf counterwatch
Great, so when I get a bad tank on my team I'll be skrwewed
There so scared of the shitty little children that cry about everything that they dont understand that power creep is bad. Stop buffing everything, youre just raising the already bs baseline of the game. Also yeah buff mauga, hes so fun to play against. Insane.
Omg they keep buffing characters that noone likes, just stop. Every character should have their place, not evry character needs to be viable all the time. 🙄🙄🙄
That random ass zen nerf was just the icing on top. Ggs overwatch you had what people would say is "a run".
The Zen change was a buff. Zen's ult costs 10% less than before. So Zen gets his ult faster.
@@Chazza-01 oh I'm dumb lol
Cry
I'm a bastion main and pretty sure that he got a nerf to is grenade from 45 to 40
The patch that made playing tank not feel like total ass, until we get nerfed by S12. Tank shall be fun...temporarily.
It will only be more buffed, and tank will feel EXACTLY the same as before and now it will feel more shit for support and dps players to play against a tank
@@thefreshprince2865 no, see they will buff tank busters next.
And the cycle of never addressing the underlying problems shall continue.
I main tank, most of these buffs were unnecessary (wtf were they cooking with mauga)
Season 12
rein charge - 250 swing - 80
Zarya bubble duration- 1 second
Mauga - cardiac - 1 sec ( honestly I'd be down)
Hog - breather - dmg reduction 10% ( honestly I'd be down)
Ball - automatically swaps enemy to Sombra
Winton - bubble health- 500
Orisa - javelin spin cd 12 sec ( honestly I'd be down)
Doomfist - auto swaps enemy dps to cass Sombra
Dva - removed matrix
Sigma - shield health 400
Jq - shout cd - 30 seconds
Ram - nemesis form removed
Dps passive now reduces healing on tank by 50%
Support- zen - discord orb - 3x effective on tanks
Ana - anti is permanent on tank
and the crying will continue
2 tanks is officially back in game…just need a Ashe for BOB
I think it’s time for 10v10 chat thoughts?
If this doesn't convince us to want 6v6 back, i dont know what will!!!
6v6 coming in hot
All I heard for 10 mins was "wahh wahh tank Wahhh"
Healing passive should be the only one that exist tbh 14:45
Back in my day when the devs made a passive, it was for the individual hero to add to their kit or flavor.
Or, hear me out, we shouldn’t have ENTIRE ROLE PASSIVES and instead have individual character passives
Atp, every character is going to have the shimada wall climb.
The said they were buffing every tank for awhile now
flats is giggling somewhere
That’s it now 5v5 anymore no 6v6 let’s just make it a battle royal
This is the patch that broke me. Just uninstalled. I can't take it anymore as a genji main.
I was unaware about that ppatch played some comp today - my god what the fuck were they thinking. Lets just hope we can get a 125 swing blade so it will be in line with health pool changes 😢 until then i dont care
@@maciejrogozinski8277 I'm playing Escape from Tarkov instead as a newbie. VERY bad PvP (due to cheaters) but playing with friends in PvE is fun at least!
I can't be bothered to screw Blizzard/Microsoft/Activision after ruining every single game I've ever liked: OG CODs, OW, OG Halos. I'll be trying Rivals as well as soon as it's out. A miniscule DMG buff for dragonblade won't do it for me as long as 6v6 isn't back.
I just want to enjoy open queue man but because of 5v5 tanks will always be busted...
I thought the overwatch collab was transformers not world of tanks 💀
Ball buffs are disappointing compared to some of the other tanks buffs.
Ball already amazing
@@Donobro Until the other team decides to play cc mania.
idk that reload speed change is kinda huge im not gonna lie
im happy with it ..
all they know is power creep
defending their incompetence is neigh impossible at this point
Let me guess now that they have overbuffed tanks they will introduce 6vs6, wouldnt even surprise me anymore LOL.
If this guy says oh okay one more time…..
I think we need 6v6 back fr
I used to get mad during OW1 games, but I'd absolutely have that over what it is now. Back then, there was a chance to do something really awesome with your team. It rarely happened while soloing, but now, they've removed all chance of doing something cool with your team. Just make it 5v5 DPS deathmatch already - blatantly the player base they want to attract
Dawg they should had made evet shop bru
This patch should be called the Rammatra patch
Tanks weren't having fun before, now everyone is suffering as they have... You know what, I'm done, I'll just keep playing pacific drive until they fix the game
You know I was contemplating coming back to OW for transformers but uh… yeah. I’ll wait till this blows over.
How did they change ana grenade yall
As a Florida resident I can confirm you read it wrong it says 150% jayp33
I've noticed there's a hard problem with numbers and patch notes in the overwatch community, if you read mauga change as a buff, noticed it in the past as well, read guys use eyeballs this aint ranked you can chill for a second
We need reaper the tank shredder.