Ancient Greek and Roman Music - A Beginner's Introduction
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I've made a few videos talking about certain aspects of Ancient Greek music theory and how they have come to influence music of later periods, but I figured it would be a worthwhile endeavour to offer a very basic introduction to the general sound of Ancient Greek and Roman music for those who may wonder what it was like. This video is meant to be a beginner's basic overview of the instruments and the general music theory in a very general and simplified scope. In later videos, I will delve into more complex aspects.
For those more interested in the subject, here is a wonderful lecture by the great Armand d'Angour, an absolute specialist in the subject:
• Ancient Greek Music, w...
Sources:
Ancient Greek Music: A New Technical History, Steven Hagel
Ancient Greek Music, Martin L. West
FOLLOW UP VIDEO: How do we know what Ancient Roman music sounded like without any notated scores?
ruclips.net/video/JAZYOw2VUMk/видео.html
AUDIO DEMONSTRATIONS OF ALL THE THREE TYPES OF MELODIES ANCIENT GREEK MELODIES (GENERA):
ruclips.net/video/3eWcj2GKRzo/видео.html
And here are quality performances of Greco-Roman music:
ruclips.net/video/OcHWvl16mpg/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/FWfVdmQEO_w/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/35X8j7YKJ8Q/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/rr2gyxwIsbM/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/SgpWXDSSHE0/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/rFeMxUSKQF0/видео.html
I've made a few videos talking about certain aspects of Ancient Greek music theory and how they have come to influence music of later periods, but I figured it would be a worthwhile endeavour to offer a very basic introduction to the general sound of Ancient Greek and Roman music for those who may wonder what it was like. This video is meant to be a beginner's basic overview of the instruments and the general music theory in a very general and simplified scope. In later videos, I will delve into more complex aspects.
For those more interested in the subject, here is a wonderful lecture by the great Armand d'Angour, an absolute specialist in the subject:
ruclips.net/video/hMLjkH0mjgo/видео.html
Sources:
Ancient Greek Music: A New Technical History, Steven Hagel
Ancient Greek Music, Martin L. West
Please do an epic talking on Indian Music systems
When I first heard the sound of Aulos, I feel like texture of the sound is similar to the Medieval Shawm and Renaissance Crumhorn.
@@greygamertales1293Great comparison, they’re similar reed instruments
@@faryafaraji I kinda wish historical musical instruments can atleast come back in the mainstream classical orchestras rather than just staying confined to only traditional early music ensembles.
@@greygamertales1293Honestly yeah, usually the argument given is that older instruments often can’t match the same acoustic power; music was usually meant for smaller spaces in the Middle-Ages or Baroque, but at this point most performances use some form of microphone or amplification anyway
The most accurate greek acent I've ever heard from a non Greek guy.
Either he has stayed in Greece for a while, or Iranian has similar phonemes so it's easier for them to get the right sounds for Greek than some other foreigner
@@foljs5858I was a wedding photographer for 8 years here in Montréal, and if there’s a wedding here, it’s either Lebanese or a Greek one, that’s why haha
@@faryafaraji lol! and you did all the music studying too!!!
@@faryafaraji
Good on Montréal for allowing Lesbian weddings.
@@BBWahoo😂
Dude the greek speaking at the intro was so good... you sounded like one of us
he evev looks Greek, the only thing giving away a southern lineage is a shorter forehead
@@ivankontra3446 He does not look Greek.
Farya's finally coming out with the truth about lyres.
Lyres always gave me trust issues
@@faryafaraji,
If Alcibiades was a stringed instrument...
🤣
I didn't see anything about creepy Joe Biden in here?
Man, I love ancient history but know almost nothing about the history of ancient music. Videos like these are a rare treasure and you make the subject easy to understand and interesting. Thanks for making programs like this!
Coming from you it couldn’t be more of an honour man! Same thing for you; I always listen to your videos on Mesopotamia whenever I’m doing VFX on some of the videos for hours
@@faryafaraji next time please plus the right tuning... 😂😂😂😂😂... It will be very false in our ears
@@marinalypirou-bali7315
What right tuning you’re talking about? Is it a certain part of the video?
@@faryafaraji i mean. During Baroque era the tunninh waa 432. Today we ve been between 440-442 for A (La).
It's largely ignored, not just in regular history or history of art, but even as a part of musical education. Music history curricula at best include some instrumentation, the choirs in theatre and (a few) scales. Then they just sail past a couple thousands of roman world to arrive at pope Gregory and the end of early middle ages lol
Damn that was some good pronunciation at the beginning Farya ;)
Συνέχισε να κάνεις τόσο καλά βίντεο!
Absolutely fascinating! I knew so little about the other two scales. I hope you'll cover more about this topic, particularly how you perform the scales in your songs.
Being a non-musician myself, I thank you for this education.
I’m honoured Blaine! My goal with these videos is to be accessible and aimed at non-musicians; history and culture buffs in general :)
Very informative as always, Syfilis!
Send my regards to Charikleia Ghonorreas, I hope everything went well with Dr. Papanikolaus
Oh I’m sorry to say Ghonorreas died, stabbed by Trichomoniasis of Clan Souvlakis
😆
@@faryafaraji but what about tzatzikis's grandson, Andreas Papadohatzigiannakopoulidakis ive heard he is a doctor in germany now and only visits his village Kammena Hoirina at summer
😂 omg I was hoping to find someone pointing out the names, but I wasn’t expecting the bit to keep going
Bless our boi for dumbing it down for us amateur musical theorists and aspiring historians. Very thoughtfully executed introduction to the topic.
As always nailing that greek accent
The intro was golden too XD
Amazing video brother , as a greek it makes me proud when I see foreign people talking about our heritage, and just the amount of detail in the video is amazing, great work
As a greek, the intro was hilarious😂
Who are you?
I AM FROM ANCIENT GREECE!
Brother.. the Greek accent is spot on… not even actors/comedians/impressionists who work on their accents get it. Lol ive been mimicking my dad and uncles my entire life… another fantastic and informative video… i know what YT channel ill be binging on my flight to Greece in 2 weeks
We've been tricked, we've been backstabbed and we've been quite possibly, bamboozled.
All jokes aside, great video as usual. Just out of curiosity: ever considered making a video on Mesopotamian music particulièrement?
Absolutely, I’m thinking of doing one in the same style for what we know of Mesopotamian music!
@@faryafaraji sumerian music please
@@GannicusMisteriosdeHonduras Mesopotamian music includes sumerian music lol
@@Rotisiv I know , it also includes Babylonian, Akkadian, etc but I'm interested in sumerian music
it's interesting that you think native american when you think pan pipes because I think greek, I didn't even know native american's had pan pipes
_El Condor Pasa_
@@fuferito you know what, now that I hear it, it does sound very Aztec or Inca to me
@@celtofcanaanesurix2245 they're big in peruvian music still to this day. There was even a South Park episode about Peruvian pan flute bands
Farya, your explanations are so articulate and thorough, you should give a TED Talk.
He just gave it didn't you see the video
What about the similarities and differences of Byzantine music with Ancient Greek and ancient Roman music?
Ps. Great video, keep them going!
Great idea!
Byzantine music today still carries some of the traditions from ancient Greek and Roman music mixed in with other foreign influences throughout their history.
Well Pan flutes are literally named after the greek god Pan, aren't they?
Yeah haha I had somehow never made the connection my entire life
We need more of this type of content. Breath of fresh air in this era of 2 min 2 chord pop songs.
EXCELLENT introduction, excellent topic. 😄👌🎶
Thanks alot!
I’m so happy to see that in a previous episode you mentioned Southern Italy possibly having bagpipes and this time you mentioned the zampogna by name!
Speaking of pipes, he did not mentioned launeddas, still played to this day in Sardinia.
"Tzatzikis Protochlamydias"
😆😆😆
I wasn't ready.
I haven't laughed so hard in 1 month during the intro.
Man, I love the editing (or lack thereof) in your videos. The way you actually include pauses and little breaks of silence makes your videos seem so much human, natural, and less jarring. Don't change, brother.
This is absolutely amazing! I’ve enjoyed every second of this video! ❤❤
Example of melody
ruclips.net/video/4XZIuNsGIk0/видео.html Main Melody from 0:00 - 0:12
ruclips.net/video/EjvJWznWhqc/видео.html Accompanying Melody 1:19 - 1:31
Tzatzikis Protochlamydias
0:04 RIP in Peace 💀
Yeah, you got me! I was thinking all the time up until the end: "How the Caligula's little boot did he manage to make a RUclips video from the ancient past!". Never crossed my mind that you might have used a green screen. You had me there!
Good video by the way.
Thank you once again for a great informative video!! As I was doing some uni research, I came across some information about the Greeks who were performing war dances (Pyrrichios?) on aulos music, and they considered that those who know how to dance, know how to fight (because they know the dance or Ares, as it was written in the Illiad). Later on I found out the Persians, during the Achaemenid Empire, had a similar war dance according to Xenophon`s Anabasis. Later on the Parthians used hollow drums covered in bells on the battlefield to scare their enemies. I think it must have been quite the experience to actually perform a war dance or hear this kind of "war music" (and not only!) back then.
Your greek accent is great keep up with the good work
Looking pretty fancy there, mate
Φαριάς Φαραντζής for prime minister
But Farya, how did you go back to Ancient Greece? I'm stunned, all I can see is a place that is 100% real and is almost 3000 years old. Indeed, there's nothing to indicate that the background is in anyway artifical at all or is superimposed. Tell me magical Persian man, tell me!
The secret to time travel is turning the gyros backwards, it reverse the flow of time
Highly valuable and educational video, thank you, keep up!
Another cultural version of Farya to add to the collection. By the way interesting video
Great show and can you do song about empress Irene of Athens or Constantine Xl
Thank you for covering this. I've been writing a fiction piece with influences from the ancient world, and I had trouble describing the Greek-influenced music contained within. This was very informative.
I hope to see some of your music on Spotify soon because I just love it. But I understand if you do not publish it there. I've heard of some issues creators have with that platform.
Thanks alot! As for Spotify I periodically put my most popular tracks there, but putting music up there is very costly price-wise, and as of now, the revenue from Spotify doesn’t match back the cost it takes me to put it there, though that might change later
Syfilis Spanakopitas and Bilbamesh need to start a band. If nothing else, they should reappear during the intros of relevant videos. And yes, You were right. This entire time I thought you were sitting along the road to Aphrodite's Watch in Kythera during the Peloponnesian War and not a green screen.
Farya, you are just an incredible person! Even not knowing English very well, I am very pleased to listen to you. Good luck to you and development of your creativity. ❤
Dude, that drip is awsome.
So you are another kind of "lyre" ?
Thank you so much, for helping us rediscover the richness of the music of antiquity!
This was a very interesting video: I see so many parallels with Indian classical music! Especially about the different types of modes, not always using all seven notes and having melodic complexity over harmonic.
Looks like AC Odyssey LOL
Can't wait for the next videos on this, it was very informative
Your Greek pronunciations are spot on
Just finished watching the whole video. Absolutely fascinating. Thanks
Damn greco-persian Crossover!?
All hail Kirtoukos Ghormesabzis
No joke. The "recipe" does indeed include include fenugreek and olive oil afterall...
The timing on this couldn't have been better...to pass the time waiting for my Saz (or Tambouras) to arrive from Greece I was looking at Luthieros's website and researching the Pandoura and Lyre wondering how it would really sound like. I gotta check out that guy's work!
I also love how you added the cicadas chirping in the background, you know that sounds is everywhere!
Incredible video as always, aderfe. Can't wait for more
Thanks alot Demetrios! Where did you buy your tambouras from? I like to keep a list of musical stores that shop outside of Greece :)
This is one of your best videos yet 🎉😊
Thanks so much man!
@@faryafaraji Keep making the awesome music - it's time we had more musicians like you come on the stage!
May I kindly request permission to use all your music in my videos? (Only the ones I like)
Also man, I give you a challenge - How about you film yourself in the City of Babylon (like a backdrop) signing a Babylonain song or something? The music of Mesopotamia is so mysterious, it'd be cool if we can see that :P
LOOOOLLOLOL at the intro!!!
I've been waiting for this video since a long time ☺️ now it's finally here and btw Farya you look like a deserted Persian immortal in Corinth. 😂
3:31 any clue on northern germanic lyres being played like this being historically attested? It's what I do on mine most of the time and I have 0 idea if that's legit lmao
This is hellllaugh interesting, good video
We are grateful for the knowledge you provide. I wiil try to share some extra informations. In Byzantine music we have 72 moria . Ιn diatonic we have intervals of 12,10,8 moria. In chromatic we have intervals of 4,6,8,12, 14,20 moria. In enharmonic we have intervals 6,12 moria. 72:6 = 12 the enharmonic is the one that west music uses.
Excellent video,
love the discussion and agree about lyres. There has been ceramic pottery found from the Tumulus Celtic culture from the iron and Bronze Age of Europe depicting pretty colorful examples of lyres and proto zithers. Including possibly a double corse 10 string example. There is also the couple of bridges found in Scotland from the Iron Age, one being flat, possibly for bowing? It’s speculated that the Welsh crwth as early as around 600 AD may of been bowed, as well as the closely related Greek and European chrotta being bowed earlier on. I agree, it seems to be of Steppe origin, in what intervals did it travel and arrive by exchange and migration and how early?
Thanks for the video:)
Very informative video, interesting to see the interaction with neighbouring civilisation's music! In sardinian traditional music there's an instrument I think is directly derived (or maybe it developed around the same time) from the aulos/tibia, which are the "Launeddas" that have a very similar sound and are still played today in folk music. There's a couple of videos on RUclips if anyone wants to check it out.
When I read The Twelve Caesars by Suetonius I heard that Nero played a lyre. That conforms that lyres are not just a Greek thing.
Syphilis Protochlami... I lost it here, man :) I know there followed a serious exposé but it took me some time to come back from the Isle of Laughteria where the Hysterian games were thrown :D
Haha thanks Manol! I’ve had that stupid joke in my head for 1 year and I finally found somehere to put it lol
For the sound of the aulos go look for "sardinian launeddas"! Such an amazing instrument, masterfully played by sardinians. I could say: launeddas are aulos... An example: ruclips.net/video/iIg8ydYkXvI/видео.html
Deares Farya, your educational video abou ancient music are really invaluable and to me (historical novel writer) very very precccccious. Thanks also for the source!
And your continued support is just as invaluable to me Vladimiro, grazie for sticking around so long!
Hey, why are you sitting there with the sun glaring at us from behind you? Everything looks way too bright.
That is AC Odyssey on the background haha.
What is that badass intro music?? Need the source.
There ya go! ruclips.net/video/dW5HBQQmubI/видео.html
@@faryafaraji Thank you 😄
You have such a great pronunciation, if I didn't know you were Iranian I would think that you are a Cretan.
He does actually look Mycenaean
Είσαι απίστευτα ταλαντούχος ρε Farya! Ειλικρινά!
19:20 The sauce is considered the most important part of the dish in classical french cooking, just sayin lol
ruclips.net/video/t87UL1X6LYg/видео.html Ionatos and Venetsanou sing Sapphos' poems in ancient and modern Greek with a take on ancient Greek music
"The most interesting thing about lyres"...is you never get the same story twice!
Excellent! I hope you will make a video on ancient Greek and/or Middle East rhythms, many of which survive until today in the Balkans and the elsewhere. Things like 13/8, 11/8, 7/8 etc
Check out my video on Usul in the Epic Talking playlist, I cover the subject there :)
This hymnic style is between happiness and sadness. Today european music is too happy, while midlde eastern is too sad. Such middle ground feeling you can find at the edges of the map, papua ,sahel, in some parts of south east asia,maybe ireland
This made me SO HAPPY! Thank you for existing !!!
It’s a pleasure to meet you Mr Spinachpie, I am Mrs gyro
Could you check out the Greek song "pregame" by Haris alexiou. It's about the old village Pergame (Pergamum). To my Moroccan ear it sounds eastern oriental but the scale is somehow simplistic and appeas "primitive" is this maybe related to ancient Greek pentatonic? I am curious about your opinion because you have music theory knowledge
I listened to the song and there’s definitely elements of what we’d call the Hijaz family of tetrachords, a grouping of notes we often feel is very Oriental indeed. The melody in Pergame is directly descended from the Chromatic practices of Ancient Greece; Chromatic is the genus that gives us these kinds of modern scales like Hijaz. It’s the ones I mention around 16:30
That said, there’s nothing about the scale that is primitive or advanced, it’s just a series of notes like any other. The concept of what sounds primitive to us isn’t musical, it’s cultural-we’re conditioned by the pop culture around to associate certain sounds with certain concepts, but these are artifical perceptions, they’re not actual intrinsical musical realities.
It’s like the example of sleigh bells. Sleigh bells don’t actually intrinsically have any Christmas-related properties in their sound. But they sound like Christmas because we’ve continually played Christmas songs using them, so an association has formed in our minds, and now we hear Christmas with sleigh bells.
A scale can’t be objectivally measured as primitive or advanced, there’s no metric for that. You probably hear primitivity in thats scale because since childhood, the media you consume has equated Hijaz like scales to primitive contexts, but this is again a matter of subjective perception only. If anything, the Chromatic Ancient Greek basis of the song you sent me is actually a very complex innovation: developping scales like this requires a degree of mathematical knowhow in dividing musical ratios, although it’s not particularly advanced either; it’s a series of notes as primitive or advanced as any other scale :)
@@faryafaraji thank you. I really enjoy reading your answers.
I appreciate it!
@@faryafaraji I appreciate how you create awareness. Mostly due to exposure we link scenic desert images free of any civilization or human influence to middle eastern and Greek music. But one has to have in mind that all this complex Instrumente and the knowledge is rooted in Mediterranean urban context. In urban centers. If you listen to music from the gulf countries like Abu Dhabi you notice that everything is different. The rhythm and beat especially. But in the west we associate Eastern Mediterranean music with the Saudi Arabian peninsula and desert. But actual music from the desert (toureg music or khaleegy music or Yemeni music has mostly different percussion. You almost will never hear the darbuka. Where as the darbuka is common in Alexandria Istanbul and even Athens.
Great video! If there's an even more in depth explanation of this video with longer musical examples I'd be interested! Also maybe some of the archaeological evidence that even informs us of how the ancients played their music would be cool!
Very informative video loved it btw i ate spanakopita today for breakfast
What's the name of the song at the beginning?
"hello, my name is Syfilis" Lol the Filthy Frank pantheon is expanding.
Zeus is lowkey just Chin Chin
Would appreciate a part 2 on this…very informative. I’m from the balkans, so instrumentals is the key to my soul.
Amazing Video! I find myself always coming back to your Greek/Roman ambient music videos (it's how I found you) and I love learning some of the context behind those melodies. Thanks so much!
Thanks alot Nick!
Most informative video on RUclips about ancient music! Great work!
Amazing stuff, really informative. I have one question? Your only ever video on arabic music is you explaining how its not persian. How come youve never made a single arabic song from any period of arabian history? Id really like to hear some ancient pagan to early islamic arabic music.
I have made two: Warriors of Asira back in 2020, and I’ve also covered a Morrocan sufi song :) That said, the relative lack of Arabic music on my channel is simply because I’m not well versed in Arabic music, so I’m not tackling it yet out of respect; I need to learn how it works first
I'm wondering if anyone could help me, what's the origin of the names of the notes in Greek music? I've been trying to find where hyperbolaion, diezeugmenon, lichanos and stuff come from. Does anyone know any book or article where I can read specifically about the names? Because what I've found just describe the scales, but it doesn't say why it has those names. Thank you in advance!
Stefan Hagel's "Ancient Greek Music: A New Technical History," has all the information you need, it's one of the sources I used.
But as for what those names mean, their etymology is simple reflective of their function in the mode. Mese means "centre", diezeugmenon "divided," synemmenon means "conjunct," etc. They're just Ancient Greek terms for what the function of those notes were in the mode.
Dude your channel is impossible to find if you cant remember the name.
I came for bouzouki, bouzouki makes me happy
Dorian, lydian, mixo-lydian and a few others are still in use today at least sometimes in middle europe. When you study roman-catholic church music, not the typical songs but stuff like the exultet (the long prologue of the Easter Vigil, usually sung by the priest), you´ll stumble across these nowadays so-called "church-modes". It´s increasingly rare but as I was told by a few priests I know very well, they went through the theory of it at the beginning of their education. In Germany it takes 6 to 8 years (depending on region) to become a priest and music is an important part of that education.
Dam bruh, you lied to us. I thought you were an ancient Greek. Silliness aside, Maa Shaa Allah it was so extremely well done and well made. Thank you so much! I had a blast watching it Allahu Akbar!!!!
the 2 names at the beginning tipped me off 😆love from a daughter of anceint Kampos, peleponessos.
Hi Farya.Can you sing the song "Bir derdim var,bin dermana deyişmem" written in the turkic language by the Iranian Shah Ismail.
what is first greek music dude
Oh, no, I've been tricked.😁As always, thanks for your video, I learned something new
This was such an informative video! Thank you! Can't wait for your vid on the disappearance of microtonality, because I'm still a bit confused as to the difference between the enharmonic and chromatic modes :(
do you know how to speak greek? do u have a greek heratege?
I only know a little Greek; my hope is to speak it fluently one day but for now I’m still at the basics :)
Thats great, thank you
seeing that you went back to teach us, can you ask the composer of chevalier mult estes guariz why is there a difference between your and Master Jordi Savall rendition and lyrics, not the same writer maybe?
can you also get the young singer for a Collab his voice is fitting and clear/serious.(you can c him in the Jerusalem concerts).
Bless u and keep up the great work.
You ask an interesting question. Why is my version of Chevaliers different from Jordi Savall’s?
Because we’re dealing with pre-Renaissance music, and that’s how pre-Renaissance music works. Ever since the advent of standart notation in the West and current recording technology, people are used to the concept of “the real version of a song.” This concept doesn’t apply to music in the Middle-Ages.
What is written down in the Middle-Ages of Chevaliers Mult Estes Guariz is only two things: lyrics, and a melody to match those lyrics. There is no indication on speed, on what instruments to use, on how to ornament this or that note, etc. The concept of writing down the arrangement and having one original arrangement is a very modern one, and it’s a concept medieval people didn’t even have.
My version and master Savall’s are different because none of them are the original or canonical way to perform the song. We both looked at the melody and lyrics, which is the only material left to us from the Middle-Ages, and performed an arrangement while remaining historically accurate. Even back then, every rendition of the song would have been as different from one another as mine is from master Savall’s-medieval people didn’t have a concept of an “original version” of a song. All you have is a tune, lyrics, and every time it’s performed, it’ll be completely different.
As for the singer, while Marc Mauillon’s voice is definitely beautiful, his singing style is not fitting at all for the Middle-Ages. I have made a video on this subject if you are interested, but to keep it short: Medieval European singing was closer to Arabic or Turkish or Balkanic singing than it was to modern European conservatory style, which is the one Mauillon uses. He is a singer trained in a post-18th century vocal style, one that isn’t representative of Medieval music. I am definitely looking to get different singers for my renditions, but for Medieval music, I will look for Arabic, Turkish, Greek, Bulgarian, Andalusian singers etc, who have the appropriate vocal style for medieval european music :) Here is the link to my video on the subject if you’re interested
ruclips.net/video/hxcH7S2BaiQ/видео.html
@@faryafaraji very nice, to be honest i heard this song like 100 times in different renditions and i only like these 2, since they kind of reflect a cheery exciting and motivating style for the men back then.(since its a war song after all, and the pronunciation of old french is ok ).I believe your a great track in your ambition to revive Historic music and styles of music. i Like master Jordi for the same reason.
question when we say back in the day we mean like the common folk or the Kings court? because i think the courts or organized groups must of had some kind of order like what organs and how many ect or that idea is also False or not proven in what documents or archelogy
Even court music didn’t have a set concept of an original arrangement for one song. Medieval musicians have left us with loads of treatises on how their music works, but there’s never a single indication for any work that for example, this piece needs two lutes and two psalteries, and the psaltery plays this and the lute plays that. The concept of Medieval music works like Iranian or Turkish music of the royal courts: you write down a melody but every performance will be its own. It’s not that they weren’t orderly, more that they had more flexibility for the concept of performance
The video just started and i burst out laughing with the names.
I find it interesting that most of the music around the world, at least in the Eastern Hempishere, is Heterophonic, and in the modern day, we forget that.
For example, most traditional Chinese music is heterophonic. If you listen to Chinese Opera, it's got that same structure. However, modern Chinese orchestra (which I personally distinguish from traditional Chinese), is Polyphonic. It's a completely different music theory and it's honestly why I hate watching historical Chinese dramas (among other reasons) because they never give proper love to heterophonic, 7 tone temperament Chinese music lol
Great point, in fact it’s often the case in Eurocentric textbooks to refer to most musical traditions as “monophonic” but I’ve never encountered pure monophony anywhere in the world. I don’t know of any tradition where everyone plays and sings exactly the same note without any diversity
We still in Egypt use lyres we call it semsemya in Egypt and Sinai it's like the ancient Egyptian Kanara "lyre"
And Nubians use tanpura
Absolutely impressive. Was blown away by your depth of knowledge!