I'm playing a sun soul monk right now, he was captured as a slave and transported into the under dark, but one day he escaped and saw the glory that was the sun, so he started worshipping the sun and he gets his power by photosynthesising(kinda of, It is more likely that he just mutated due to solar radiation, but whatever)
I played in an Adventurers League game a few days ago where our Sun Soul monk became the deadly finisher of almost dead zombies with his ranged radiant damage. Whenever one of the zombies would be barely standing after having passed its Undead Fortitude save, he would just finish them off immediately, often 2 or 3 at a time (because we started focusing more on half-"dead" ones instead of ones that were at 1 HP after passing the save). He certainly was the huge MVP of the entire dungeon. Moral of the story: Never underestimate radiant damage !
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I really like this class because it gives you a lot of options for combat. Some foes you want to be able to keep distance from and this let's you do that. The damage seems low, but remember that radiant damage is one of the least resisted damage types in the game.
Say hello to your favorite DBZ character. Not even joking. Everything you get from the subclass is basically a DBZ attack. Radiant Sun Bolt? A multi-shot Kamehameha Arc Strike? Piccolo's Evil Explosion from the video games Sunburst? Vegeta's Big Bang Attack Heck even Sun Shield is their Fiery Constipated Yelling Power Up Aura. Not overly surprising since around half the monk subclasses are basically an anime character of some sort. Astral Self: Jojo. Four Elements: Avatar the Last Airbender. Open Hand: Fist of the North Star. Shadows: Pick your favorite ninja.
I can agree to a degree, but personally I think that title goes to the ascendant dragon as it has the ability to change its damage type in punches and gets decent utility out of other tradition upgrades
@@burkebrittain1073 Having the need to change damage type, has to be one of the least useful things tho. Often the reason one would want that, is to bypass resistances. But the monk gets magic damage at level 6 and radiant damage is one of the least resisted damage types. Not to mention, there are plenty of vulnerable enemies to radiant, making it a better option than any offered by the dragon. Breath Weapon is a worse Burning hands, it only gets better than burning hands at around level 11th. Having the ability to fly is good, but not that good on a monk that doesn't have many ranged options. Way of the AD only is better than Sun Soul, above level 11th when you get the only true good feature, and the dragon breath becomes actually good.
This subclass is basically how to be a Dragon Ball character and I love it. Radiant Sunbolt: Kamehameha Searing Arc Strike: Follow up punches with small ki blasts. Searing Sunburst: Big Bang Attack. Sun Shield: You go Super Sayain.
I'm playing a sun soul monk in Curse of Strahd and the sun bolts are really useful against undead creatures, especially those that regenerate every round. Although, I do agree that when playing a sun soul monk, you end up more on the ranged side and the damage output is a bit underwhelming. However, I decided to take a level in light cleric, and I honestly recommend it if you're willing to be a level or two behind in monk. It blends thematically with the way of the sun soul, adds another healer in the party, and warding flare is great when stronger enemies (or vampires) are right in your face.
I'm playing the sun soul monk and it's the best class. Not only that I feel like a DBZ character, but I'm also almost immortal when fighting on an open field. With 40ft movement speed I can blast someone (damage isn't the best, but that's not so important) and get out of their range. Only way for them to reach me is either dash or ranged attacks (which I can counter using deflect missles). I'm telling you guys, with sun soul there is almost nothing that can kill you.
I love this class. I had made a Halfling Monk name Danny, and his story as to how he had gotten this great power was that he was fishing one morning. Then he looked up one morning at a shooting star, closed to his eyes to make a wish...... until he got knocked out as something hit him (the little meteorite.) Yeah, I use that as an explanation to how he gotten this cool power. Great video as always
I made my sun Soul monk into a gnome I guess I'm not the only one who find it funny that the smallest races in the game gets faster and faster if you go against what they don't really get to use
Playing an Aasimar Sorceress who had her magic burned from her body. She wears robes and is a noble. Everyone assumes she is a NPC caster until she gets into melee. I've broken the party out of Jail twice, talked them out of an execution and saved the life cleric with healing hands a nat fail on death save and was not willing to risk losing him. The Light cantrip and Orb of light go well with praising the sun. I highly recommend Aasimar (Protector) or the living torch mixed with Sun Soul. You turn into a Persudo Caster. You aint a ranged nuker and you are not that powerful but holy heck the RP potential and Combat flow is great.
I'm playinng for the first time and i picked this sub. So far (lv5) the sun bolt is helping me a lot since the campaing is flooded with imps and other flying demons.
I just had a battle against a werewolf, which is inmune to "Bludgeoning, Piercing, and Slashing From Nonmagical Attacks Not Made With Silvered Weapons" so...basically, inmune to a monk lvl2 (as I was at the time). This essenario (and a few other that were minor) made me choose way of the sun soul. Excited to try it out and see how new magicla atacks play out!(if the dice allow it)
Wood elf with a bow and 18 dex. Two long bow attacks at 8.5 damage on average + the furry of blows for two attacks that do an average of 7.5 (d6 martial die) damage each at range. That is 17+15=32 damage on average per turn starting at level five and it costs one ki point and no feats. Not to shabby.
This subclass is also for the Might Guy fans as opening the 6th gate allows Guy to preform the “Morning Peacock” maneuver which is the same as the Radiant Sun Bolt
I like most of what you all said here, though low damage output is a bit odd. You have three attacks at level 5, four if you spend a ki point, and while you do a d6, you can do it very often. Higher levels you can spend those points more often without worrying, so with a d8 or d10 damage die, you are doing the same number of attacks and damage as a fighter, from 30 feet away, with the ability to fireball things or use burning hands if they cluster on you.
A big downside is that RAW the radiant sun bolt is not the same as your martial arts in that you can't use a free single bolt as a bonus action. You are forced to spend a ki for two bonus action sun bolts. So if you want to keep up with damage of other classes you're forced to burn through your ki really quickly. This quick drain on your ki is pretty debilitating at low levels.
Dude I'm trying to make Escanor build just for fun. I'm considering using strength based sun soul multiclassed with paladin.... no storm herald? And Ban is cool, wish there were some dnd traits that resembles his abilities
I am currently creating a Sun Soul monk who is a fire genasi. They sought out the teachings of this particular martial skillset in order to control the elemental power flowing through themselves. any thoughts?
I mean sure the damage isn't fantastic but Monk was never about being the biggest damage dealer, since it's more a skirmisher like a rogue, but if you do get all your hits in you do quite a bit of damage overall. I have yet to actually play a Monk though but, this will be the one I choose, while multiclassed into something else probably. But options and versatility, which a lot of people below talk about is primarily what it is about. Honestly the 17th level does kind of suck, so taking 3 levels in something else will likely make up for it if you get to level 20. (Like say, Cleric or Rogue perhaps, or even fighter/Barb) Also remember its abilities is AoE, unlike say Kensei and the like, so you will probably shine against groups of enemies.
How to fix the Sun Soul monk in 2 easy steps. Step 1) Forget everything you know about DBZ. Just forget it entirely. It is dead to you. Step 2) Base your character off of Isaac Netero from HxH.
I played as one and honestly rarely if ever used the features. My dm gave me the sun blade which does longsword damage but short sword proficiency, so I used that and punches the whole time. However before getting the blade it made undead a lot less scary
my bard kited a bunch of vine and twig blights while my party picked them off (they were hidden) not two sessions ago in barovia :D pulled all of them into one mass and then just made a big circle while arrows and bolts took them down one by one it was silly and glorious at the same time, dm asked me for a con save after running so much rolled a natural 18 on the die so now my bard has a new phrase "survival rule #1: cardio" lol
I made my sun Soul monk into a gnome I guess I'm not the only one who finds it funny that the smallest races in the game get faster and faster if you go against what they don't really get to use
@@kenneth6989 A mix of pop culture mostly: Jean Claude Van Damme from "Bloodsport", a Wushu swordsman and Andy Bogard from "The king of fighters" games (with the size of R2D2 of course.)
Ive only played it once and I single handedly killed a young blue dragon as it was fleeing from the beat down i was giving it. It tried to burrow away and i just put all my points in sunburst and nuked it.
I feel like Searing Sunburst gets a lot of unnecessary flack. Having a Con save AOE is exactly what you want for minions, mages, or people who have evasion, seeing as evasion only works on Dex saves. Not to mention it's free to cast with a max potential range of 170 ft, 150 ft target with 20 ft radius. Combined with your movement of 50 ft at that level you could theoretically spend 1 ki for Step of the Wind and target a cluster of enemies 170 ft away and move 100 ft in the same round. Is it a boss slayer, no, but it never really seemed like it was supposed to be. At level 11 you are useful in all ranges of combat which is nice if you are playing a game that requires tactical placements.
Enemies effectively DO have Evasion against it because a successful Save negates all damage. The damage is also really bad even against chaff unless you're spending a lot of Ki. It's not nothing (having an option against far away enemies is better than not having one), but it has a lot of shortcomings.
@@HouseLyrander You're right. But the fact that it doesn't generally target a Dex save can have benefits and it's own hurdles I guess. Never used it myself but it's long range and Con save seems like a good ability to use on distant spellcasters.
@@cgrandall625 Having both tried Sun Soul and DMed for a lot of Monks (including Sun Soul), I think a Kensei with a Longbow (or a straight up Warlock) would be better option since they can snipe squishy targets at similar ranges and still contribute in more general situations as a consistent damage dealer, especially with Tasha's adding Ki Fueled Attack which makes Deft Strike so much better. The big problem I think Sun Soul has is that it's a very "flavor first" subclass, which a lot of SCAG subclasses suffer from. However, part of a DMs job is to make sure everyone is having fun, even if it means fixing WotCs mistakes. A few changes that I like to make to Sun Souls (and Monks as a whole) is to bump Martial Arts dice up a size so they start at d6, add the Monk's Proficiency Bonus to their Ki total (this also helps multiclassing), make Ki Save DC based on the Monk's choice of Dex or Wis, and make Searing Sunburst deal half damage on a successful Save. This overall helps address some common Monk complaints and gives Searing Sunburst more of a role as an AoE pseudo Cantrip. Also, happy Christmas. Remember to enjoy yourself, and enjoy the most festive song of all time... Fairytale of New York.
Curious what you guys think about Way of Mercy Monk. Got a fresh Monk that I'm thinking of trying it out on and would like some other opinions. Or do you guys not dig on UA content?
We are going through all official subclasses first, and then we will move on to UA material (as it is released). However, I have looked at Mercy Monk and it seems very interesting and flavorful as a hybrid healer/fighter. Definitely cool, but does not seem balanced properly (as most UA is). Thanks for watching!
A lizard folk sun soul monk that spits the light out of their mouth like Godzilla.
IM DOING THIS!!
I'm playing a sun soul monk right now, he was captured as a slave and transported into the under dark, but one day he escaped and saw the glory that was the sun, so he started worshipping the sun and he gets his power by photosynthesising(kinda of, It is more likely that he just mutated due to solar radiation, but whatever)
I played in an Adventurers League game a few days ago where our Sun Soul monk became the deadly finisher of almost dead zombies with his ranged radiant damage. Whenever one of the zombies would be barely standing after having passed its Undead Fortitude save, he would just finish them off immediately, often 2 or 3 at a time (because we started focusing more on half-"dead" ones instead of ones that were at 1 HP after passing the save). He certainly was the huge MVP of the entire dungeon. Moral of the story: Never underestimate radiant damage !
While everyone is trying to reproduce DBZ with this subclass, I am preparing a Wii Fit Trainer for my next campaign :D
Lol
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I really like this class because it gives you a lot of options for combat. Some foes you want to be able to keep distance from and this let's you do that. The damage seems low, but remember that radiant damage is one of the least resisted damage types in the game.
Say hello to your favorite DBZ character. Not even joking. Everything you get from the subclass is basically a DBZ attack.
Radiant Sun Bolt? A multi-shot Kamehameha
Arc Strike? Piccolo's Evil Explosion from the video games
Sunburst? Vegeta's Big Bang Attack
Heck even Sun Shield is their Fiery Constipated Yelling Power Up Aura.
Not overly surprising since around half the monk subclasses are basically an anime character of some sort. Astral Self: Jojo. Four Elements: Avatar the Last Airbender. Open Hand: Fist of the North Star. Shadows: Pick your favorite ninja.
The sun soul is really just makes the monk more versatile and adaptable to situations .
I can agree to a degree, but personally I think that title goes to the ascendant dragon as it has the ability to change its damage type in punches and gets decent utility out of other tradition upgrades
@@burkebrittain1073 Having the need to change damage type, has to be one of the least useful things tho. Often the reason one would want that, is to bypass resistances. But the monk gets magic damage at level 6 and radiant damage is one of the least resisted damage types.
Not to mention, there are plenty of vulnerable enemies to radiant, making it a better option than any offered by the dragon.
Breath Weapon is a worse Burning hands, it only gets better than burning hands at around level 11th.
Having the ability to fly is good, but not that good on a monk that doesn't have many ranged options.
Way of the AD only is better than Sun Soul, above level 11th when you get the only true good feature, and the dragon breath becomes actually good.
This subclass is basically how to be a Dragon Ball character and I love it.
Radiant Sunbolt: Kamehameha
Searing Arc Strike: Follow up punches with small ki blasts.
Searing Sunburst: Big Bang Attack.
Sun Shield: You go Super Sayain.
I'm playing a sun soul monk in Curse of Strahd and the sun bolts are really useful against undead creatures, especially those that regenerate every round. Although, I do agree that when playing a sun soul monk, you end up more on the ranged side and the damage output is a bit underwhelming. However, I decided to take a level in light cleric, and I honestly recommend it if you're willing to be a level or two behind in monk. It blends thematically with the way of the sun soul, adds another healer in the party, and warding flare is great when stronger enemies (or vampires) are right in your face.
This is what I've been waiting for! Great review, thanks guys!
I'm playing the sun soul monk and it's the best class. Not only that I feel like a DBZ character, but I'm also almost immortal when fighting on an open field. With 40ft movement speed I can blast someone (damage isn't the best, but that's not so important) and get out of their range. Only way for them to reach me is either dash or ranged attacks (which I can counter using deflect missles). I'm telling you guys, with sun soul there is almost nothing that can kill you.
I love this class. I had made a Halfling Monk name Danny, and his story as to how he had gotten this great power was that he was fishing one morning. Then he looked up one morning at a shooting star, closed to his eyes to make a wish...... until he got knocked out as something hit him (the little meteorite.) Yeah, I use that as an explanation to how he gotten this cool power. Great video as always
I made my sun Soul monk into a gnome I guess I'm not the only one who find it funny that the smallest races in the game gets faster and faster if you go against what they don't really get to use
Playing an Aasimar Sorceress who had her magic burned from her body. She wears robes and is a noble. Everyone assumes she is a NPC caster until she gets into melee. I've broken the party out of Jail twice, talked them out of an execution and saved the life cleric with healing hands a nat fail on death save and was not willing to risk losing him.
The Light cantrip and Orb of light go well with praising the sun.
I highly recommend Aasimar (Protector) or the living torch mixed with Sun Soul. You turn into a Persudo Caster.
You aint a ranged nuker and you are not that powerful but holy heck the RP potential and Combat flow is great.
I'm playinng for the first time and i picked this sub. So far (lv5) the sun bolt is helping me a lot since the campaing is flooded with imps and other flying demons.
I'm a golden dragon born sun soul monk and its great
I just had a battle against a werewolf, which is inmune to "Bludgeoning, Piercing, and Slashing From Nonmagical Attacks Not Made With Silvered Weapons" so...basically, inmune to a monk lvl2 (as I was at the time). This essenario (and a few other that were minor) made me choose way of the sun soul. Excited to try it out and see how new magicla atacks play out!(if the dice allow it)
Wood elf with a bow and 18 dex. Two long bow attacks at 8.5 damage on average + the furry of blows for two attacks that do an average of 7.5 (d6 martial die) damage each at range. That is 17+15=32 damage on average per turn starting at level five and it costs one ki point and no feats. Not to shabby.
The real benefit of the radiant fireball is that you can do that for free whenever also you can then bonus action burning hands
Spell sniper makes this subclass great
This subclass is also for the Might Guy fans as opening the 6th gate allows Guy to preform the “Morning Peacock” maneuver which is the same as the Radiant Sun Bolt
Searing Arc imo is meant to be
->stunning fist success= use searing arc
attack+
-> stunning fist failure= retreat and sunbolts
I like most of what you all said here, though low damage output is a bit odd. You have three attacks at level 5, four if you spend a ki point, and while you do a d6, you can do it very often. Higher levels you can spend those points more often without worrying, so with a d8 or d10 damage die, you are doing the same number of attacks and damage as a fighter, from 30 feet away, with the ability to fireball things or use burning hands if they cluster on you.
A big downside is that RAW the radiant sun bolt is not the same as your martial arts in that you can't use a free single bolt as a bonus action. You are forced to spend a ki for two bonus action sun bolts. So if you want to keep up with damage of other classes you're forced to burn through your ki really quickly. This quick drain on your ki is pretty debilitating at low levels.
Really cool class. I like your guys content I will sub
i love the monk subclasses
I'm here to create ESCANOR.... CRUUUUUUUUEL SUN
More of a Ban man myself, but I can appreciate any of the Sins ;) thanks for watching!
Dude I'm trying to make Escanor build just for fun. I'm considering using strength based sun soul multiclassed with paladin.... no storm herald? And Ban is cool, wish there were some dnd traits that resembles his abilities
I found this subclass appealing because if you can't fly to get to a certain enemy or small army you can use your ranged attacks.
Great job as always!
I am currently creating a Sun Soul monk who is a fire genasi. They sought out the teachings of this particular martial skillset in order to control the elemental power flowing through themselves. any thoughts?
I mean sure the damage isn't fantastic but Monk was never about being the biggest damage dealer, since it's more a skirmisher like a rogue, but if you do get all your hits in you do quite a bit of damage overall. I have yet to actually play a Monk though but, this will be the one I choose, while multiclassed into something else probably. But options and versatility, which a lot of people below talk about is primarily what it is about. Honestly the 17th level does kind of suck, so taking 3 levels in something else will likely make up for it if you get to level 20. (Like say, Cleric or Rogue perhaps, or even fighter/Barb) Also remember its abilities is AoE, unlike say Kensei and the like, so you will probably shine against groups of enemies.
This class is natural choice for Aarakocra monk, turning birdman into fighter jet.
How to fix the Sun Soul monk in 2 easy steps.
Step 1) Forget everything you know about DBZ. Just forget it entirely. It is dead to you.
Step 2) Base your character off of Isaac Netero from HxH.
Thematically, yes.
Mechanically, no.
And since we can reflavor the mechanics to fit thematically, then Sun Soul monk comes out on top.
Fixing step 2: Make Tsuna from Katekyo Hitman Reborn
I played as one and honestly rarely if ever used the features. My dm gave me the sun blade which does longsword damage but short sword proficiency, so I used that and punches the whole time. However before getting the blade it made undead a lot less scary
Gaining hex from the magic initiate feat can help to boost damage output for the sun soul monk.
my bard kited a bunch of vine and twig blights while my party picked them off (they were hidden) not two sessions ago in barovia :D pulled all of them into one mass and then just made a big circle while arrows and bolts took them down one by one it was silly and glorious at the same time, dm asked me for a con save after running so much rolled a natural 18 on the die so now my bard has a new phrase "survival rule #1: cardio" lol
I made my sun Soul monk into a gnome I guess I'm not the only one who finds it funny that the smallest races in the game get faster and faster if you go against what they don't really get to use
Mine's a gnome too. It's very funny picturing such a small guy running, jumping, slicing and throwing hadoukens like a mad man.
@@damian6660 What theme do you go for him I went Aztec
@@kenneth6989 A mix of pop culture mostly: Jean Claude Van Damme from "Bloodsport", a Wushu swordsman and Andy Bogard from "The king of fighters" games (with the size of R2D2 of course.)
@@damian6660 Interesting idea never did think about like that but some of my characters do come to my head like that sometimes
Krillin character sheet incoming!
a 150 foot long 20 feet wide explosion every 6 seconds is scary
So what's to prevent you from using finger guns? With this class
Nothing 😁
Absolutely nothing and that my friend is the glory of this sub class
Suggest an idea that no-one can attack him if he shine in the middle of battle while all his party wear sunglasses...
Finger guns you say....mayhaps a spirit gun?? I can finally make yusuke yurameshi from yu yu hakasho
The dm
Make sure to say kamahamaha or hadokem each time you fire a radiant bolt to do more damage :^]
I don't know DBZ, I don't watch DBZ ... so Ryu Hoshi is my goto, especially with the sun bolts as my Hadoken.
Ive only played it once and I single handedly killed a young blue dragon as it was fleeing from the beat down i was giving it. It tried to burrow away and i just put all my points in sunburst and nuked it.
your a hand crossbow rouge with no sneak attack, that can do melee or area effects...
This is great and all but I can't see anything else but the clasp on his necklace.
So basically, sun soul monk is Benimaru from fire force? Awesome 👍
"Pop pop pop" sounds like someone's been watching critical role lol
Don’t stop don’t stop were in love now class
I was reading the page for this class and I saw that the sunburst does do half on a failed save
Normies: DBZ
Me an intellectual: Tsuna from Katekyo Hitman Reborn.
Me a biggest of brain: sunlight yellow overdrive (jojo)
I feel like Searing Sunburst gets a lot of unnecessary flack. Having a Con save AOE is exactly what you want for minions, mages, or people who have evasion, seeing as evasion only works on Dex saves. Not to mention it's free to cast with a max potential range of 170 ft, 150 ft target with 20 ft radius. Combined with your movement of 50 ft at that level you could theoretically spend 1 ki for Step of the Wind and target a cluster of enemies 170 ft away and move 100 ft in the same round. Is it a boss slayer, no, but it never really seemed like it was supposed to be. At level 11 you are useful in all ranges of combat which is nice if you are playing a game that requires tactical placements.
Enemies effectively DO have Evasion against it because a successful Save negates all damage. The damage is also really bad even against chaff unless you're spending a lot of Ki. It's not nothing (having an option against far away enemies is better than not having one), but it has a lot of shortcomings.
@@HouseLyrander You're right. But the fact that it doesn't generally target a Dex save can have benefits and it's own hurdles I guess. Never used it myself but it's long range and Con save seems like a good ability to use on distant spellcasters.
@@cgrandall625 Having both tried Sun Soul and DMed for a lot of Monks (including Sun Soul), I think a Kensei with a Longbow (or a straight up Warlock) would be better option since they can snipe squishy targets at similar ranges and still contribute in more general situations as a consistent damage dealer, especially with Tasha's adding Ki Fueled Attack which makes Deft Strike so much better.
The big problem I think Sun Soul has is that it's a very "flavor first" subclass, which a lot of SCAG subclasses suffer from. However, part of a DMs job is to make sure everyone is having fun, even if it means fixing WotCs mistakes. A few changes that I like to make to Sun Souls (and Monks as a whole) is to bump Martial Arts dice up a size so they start at d6, add the Monk's Proficiency Bonus to their Ki total (this also helps multiclassing), make Ki Save DC based on the Monk's choice of Dex or Wis, and make Searing Sunburst deal half damage on a successful Save. This overall helps address some common Monk complaints and gives Searing Sunburst more of a role as an AoE pseudo Cantrip.
Also, happy Christmas. Remember to enjoy yourself, and enjoy the most festive song of all time... Fairytale of New York.
Curious what you guys think about Way of Mercy Monk. Got a fresh Monk that I'm thinking of trying it out on and would like some other opinions. Or do you guys not dig on UA content?
We are going through all official subclasses first, and then we will move on to UA material (as it is released). However, I have looked at Mercy Monk and it seems very interesting and flavorful as a hybrid healer/fighter. Definitely cool, but does not seem balanced properly (as most UA is). Thanks for watching!
@@URGE Fair enough. Looking forward to more vids regardless, keep it up.
Is this Hamon?
Sun soul just makes monks dragon ball characters
The most disappointing part is that it's not sunlight, hopefully your dm allows it to be sunlight due to it's name
Poor DBZ fans...it sounds great at first but then gets pretty disappointing