Fuji XH2s vs XT4: Watch Before "Upgrading"
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- I finally got to try the Fuji XH2s! Huge battle with the XT4. Testing the 150-600mm f5.6-8 vs the Fujifilm 100-400mm f4.5-5.6. 4k 120p vs 4k 60p, who has the better 240fps? Autofocus, stabilization and vlog test with the 18mm f1.4 and 33mm f1.4, as well as a brief and embarrassing effort with the 50mm f1. Also tried the GFX 50s ii with 30mm f3.5 for some reason lol.
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@Camera Conspiracies Hello! Do you think the new 150-600 at "600mm f8" will look similar to the 100-400 with the 1.4xTC at "560mm f8"? I would LOVE to hear your thinking on this! Thank you!
11:57 it even locked onto the balloons in slow motion. Fuji industry leading balloon autofocus confirmed.
Kasey will have to take balloons with him from now on when he's outside vlogging on Fuji.
Round = Face, obviously.
That's you have not checked the R5C slow motion AF, if there is any.
😂😂 I just stumbled across this channel a few weeks ago and although I have zero interest in all the tech specs of camera, this guys delivery is gold, makes me chuckle every single time, I shoot nikon, Olympus, Mamiya and Intrepid, but I watch this just for entertainment purposes only…love it👍😃
I've been here a couple if years, not a camera guy and never bought a thing. I'm here for the slow-mo road crossing. Makes my day.
My thoughts exactly. Reminds me a bit of Wanda from Corner Gas.
Casey should be in the movies in some way. His intelligence and comedic skill are off-the-chart.
It’s a comedic genius channel and a camera user error channel
@@Michael-fw5ef Yes absolutely comedic skills are unheard of🔥🔥
Fingers crossed until we have the final firmware. I do not have high expectations. I also must add that your comedy is top notch!
I agree with the “letting it into RUclipsrs hands on this beta firmware”. Their reviews will make or break your sales these days.
And it makes sense... don't understand why Fuji has shared this unfinished product...
Vlogging in medium format, hell yeah!! Maybe Olympus will make you an IMAX vlogging camera to top it up, stabilized with good AF of course.
Every time I try to vlog in public I get to nervous and feel weird but again you prove nobody cares, nobody even acknowledged you were there. They just kept doing their thing. Is this actually common that people don’t care?? Great and fun review as usual
This man is the reason I’m obsessed with cameras
Fuji should not have announced this product and lift publication ban until it got its autofocus working at 95% level or better
Why... They stated clearly about the firmware and got the camera out so people could find faults
That is the max auto focus capabilities
And we at fuji are proud, for some reason
@@wuhanlabtech3580 What about those that don't care much about autofocus. Every shooter is not a youtube shooter.
I don’t know why Fuji keep doing this
@@tobyr8555 you know exactly why
Like that new intro.....gotta love the cripple hammer! That was a nice segway from "polish their shoes" to " walk a mile in them". Connected those nicely! The issues during vlogging don't really bother me a lot because nobody is really going to buy it for vlogging. And, it's funnier for your content like this. :-) But, the bird tracking issue is a real problem if it isn't working properly. The lighting in that room was really bad. You'd think they would have set up an area outside for this little party. I think you should do a giveaway for that pen!! Have a great week.
I'm Italian, I don't understand English well, but I'll like you before watching the video.
Great
"If you were blind, you would notice how smooth it was. Until you saw the footage."
The biggest surprise to me is that the IBIS and AF both looked much better on the GFX 50S II than on either X body. The X-H2S needs a lot of work with the AF and I don't think firmware will improve the IBIS.
Thank you for the aparture steps when zoomning in!!! I've been trying to find that out , awsome! 👍👍👍🙏🙏👍👍
You shouldn’t care too much about those steps. The frame will get darker more or less in a linear way, but the camera will just show the nearest ⅓ step. It is just incapable of showing smaller increments than ⅓ stops as aperture values.
Damn, I was waiting for him every day for his review on the xh2s. Finally!!
GFX 50s II looks great.
Before I buy a 'new' camera, I want to wait and see what the improved firmware brings and what the XH2 (non 's') will bring. In the meantime, I am sticking with my X-T4 and will likely pick up a second used body for some events and weddings later this year. Great video and I always appreciate your honest takes on cameras :) Too bad I missed the Vistek pop-up tho haha; maybe next time!
Casey taking RUclips vlogging to the next level with Medium Format 🤣
I think that hex 50s II looked really really good
I can just imagine the Vistek guys that invited you to this rewatching this video like "My god... Why did we invite this hobo RUclipsr to film out of focus pigeons through a window at 1080p".
Also, that medium format vlog actually looked better than both the XT4 and XH2s.
The new intro was good 😁😁😁😁😂😂
Oh Fooj, how I wish you'd waiting 'til you had firmware that was ready for the public before shipping units to reviewers. Like the Nikon Z7 etc - it doesn't matter how much you improve the AF in later versions, 80% of the public will form and solidify their opinions based on those first look videos - and sadly right now, the AF is not good enough. Even Fuji Fanboy creators are sort of umming and ahhing, and avoiding directly saying ' yes this is fit to fight the competition'
Woww that GFX footage. Imagine that thing out in the real world. It just looked amazing.
Dang... I'm so used to good images produced by all these cameras, the extra features and useablity feels more important now. The Fujis look good... both of them. Not sure I could tell different indoors. Maybe out in the wild jungles of Nebraska I'll see that dynamic range.
We need medium format vlogs on GFX now!!
that cross looking good on ya Casey.
i bet this is the best lut / grade or lighting i ve ever seen on your videos.
Now we see the benefit of seeing the final product as opposed to an atomos recorder
Seems to be the trend. I worked for medical equipment company. They would release a product and I would spend a year updating software every month. I don’t understand why Fuji would release this product if it wasn’t a 100%?
The thing is, it's not released yet. They will try to have it fixee when it comes out
@@tobieeck9676 true it’s not officially released. But, why give to people to review before it’s finished? Because it got some really bad press before if was officially released.
At first, I thought, “these lenses don’t have T-stop,” but then I remembered it’s all about the Toneh…back when we wanted to see the lake, Tony!
I could watch an entire video of you out of Fuji focus. I couldn’t stop laughing.
This is pretty disappointing considering that Fuji is marketing the XH2S as their "video centric" camera. The auto focus is definitely much improved over the XT-4 but the IBIS was absolutely horrendous. Not to mention the crops for 120-240p vs the XT-4. I will say, when I use 240p on my XT-4 the more light that is available the better the image quality but still... The 240p on the XH2S was potato like quality 🤦🏻
What are you guys shooting to need 240p
@@nigerian-nightmare I like to grab some nice cinematic b roll of wildlife when I shoot outdoors. Or when I'm grabbing outdoor sports content like snowboarding.
I still dont see a need for 240 fps 🤷♂️ but that's just me. Seems like Fuji really needs to have that finalized firmware released. Right now I am just using what I have now and it gets the job done for my needs. I'm not a popular youtuber, so I don't mind being behind the camera. If Fuji gets this camera right, it will be kickass with high fps, 4k120, 6k and pro res. Just waiting to see the finalized firm.
The XT4 had some major issues at launch and a lot of it got fixed. I have faith in Fuji to improve this camera. I am still not getting it though. Still in the process of selling my R5 and Sony A7SIII for a R5C and accessories.
Yeah, and I'm hoping the improvements with this one will be more significant because it's a new sensor; where the X-Trans IV sensor was already in several other cameras before it made it into the X-T4.
It was the same way with the xt1, xt2, xh1. I believe only the xt3 had a very popular launch and even it got better over time. The xt1 firmware was so huge Tony and Chelsea Northrop had to completely change their review from trash to pretty good.
Selling A7sIII for an R5C? You joking? Lol
@@dontpokethebear3893 No, I am not joking. The A7S3 is a great camera but it isn't conducive to actual filmmaking. It lacks a lot of tools like shutter angle, waveforms, and etc that the S1H and R5C feature. It's the little things that help make filming easier that the A7S3 lacks.
@SlowVista Japan that’s a little bit of an exaggeration. I have a xt2 and xh1 the xt4 is amazing in comparison. The competition autofocus is better sure but fuji still gets better every year. They are just a year or two behind but it looks like the xh2S is catching up with them.
I live for the slo mo run tests. Epic.
i live for the squirrels
@@arielestulin9706 Them be fighting words
I'm disappointed that Fuji didn't get it right after waiting 4 years to release the new generation.
It's not released yet.
new intro - cool! That HD 240p sideways noise, looks it's related to how the sensor is read maybe? Vlogin' with medium format, wow, that's something you need to do more often on this channel :D
I found out in order to get rid of the nasty noise in Fuji F Log you have to shoot with about 1.5 stop above normal exposure then fix it in post!
Fix? Like denoise?
@@adnan_velic like adjusting the exposure after you shot it with a stop over
That’s crazy
Nice work as usual. Tbh I was more impressed with the GFX 50S ii 🤪
Shame that it's lacking of good codecs
@@LucasHalastra
Exactly 💯 no 4k.
The Fujifilm pen will no doubt write better after a firmware update 🙃😀
😂😂😂
Kaiz-pen.
Thank you.
Tip your waitress.
Seems like another camera rushed to market to me !! My switch is getting closer…. Will it be an a74, a R6 or a Z6III (I know this one has not even been announced yet but I think Nikon next iteration of the Z6 & Z7 should be on par with Sony and Canon in terms of autofocus). Look how fast Canon and to a lesser extent Nikon have caught up with Sony. Come on Fuji you’ve been working on this for 4 years now……
Sold my T4 last week and bought an A7iv with Sigma 28-70/2.8. I almost cried when I saw my in focus vlog footage. If you’ve been using Fuji for awhile, you will be blown away by its capabilities.
@@RandumbTech sold the xt3. Almost certain I'm buying an a7c
@@kingsamvisuals Spend the extra $$ for the A7iv. The 33MP sensor is amazing. Plus the build quality is much better. I played around with the A7C and it felt very cheap. Plus I didn’t like the form factor.
@@RandumbTech yeah no. I'm not spending that much. A camera is a tool and I'm pretty sure the a7c can do what I need.
@@RandumbTech i'm in the middle of contemplating this same move from X-H1 to A7IV with Sigma 24-70 f2.8. I'm not able to justify the X-H2S w 16-55 f2.8 for about the same price/weight combo as the A7IV. I really liked Fujifilm but their departure from dials on X-H series and abandoning their Kaizen approach and glitchy AF is making it difficult to stick
I have a feeling that Fujifilm didn't make some breakthrough in its autofocus tracking algorithm even though they mentioned something about AI. It is much better than X-T4 but maybe it's just the faster processor speeds up everythiing. While they do very good job in single focus, when it comes to tracking, they still seem to quickly forget what they are asked to keep focusing on after one second and then start to "space out"...
I won't pull the trigger until after I see Brad Gimbledick's review of the X-H2s. I trust his opinion.
We need a full review on the Fuji pen! What firmware version was that pen on? 🤔
The great thing about HD240p on the X-H2S is that it's so mushy you can't tell when it's out of focus :)
Wow! There's only one RUclipsr who cares and dares to do such a comperehensive test at an event like that! Thank you! The medium format vlog was what I never expected to witness! I think something should be wrong with that 150-600 lens'es optical design. Sigma is same weight and same range but brighter at 600 while is fullframe!
The new intro was cool! Though I'm gonna miss the UFO!
when he was running slow mo, i was expecting it to be him actually moving slowly to prank us haha
lmfao @ 10 seconds in with the jump-shot photohraphy technique. This how real pros do it folks.
Am i the only one who is a little sus about 50sII shooting 4k? I thought it is 1080p only. Do you mean upscaled 1080p? (in which case it looks amazing)
I'm 99% sure it was the 100s. The Fuji rep told me it was the 50s ii, but it's definitely 4k. The cameras look identical so he probably didn't realize it was the 100s.
Damn, I wish you were not all about video. I am a lowly Fuji stills shooter and all that mumbo jumbo is meaningless. But I keep coming back cuz these vids are just so damn entertaining. No fanboy stuff here. I might consider upgrading to the XH2 for wildlife but it really sounds like this might not really be the game changing camera we were hoping for. Gonna have to wait for many more reviews. Keep up the great work.
Another fine video from Camera Conspiracies!
isn't it pointless testing the non finished firmware? I really apreciate the effort, this is THE video comparison I need right now. but yeah, if the new firmware is so much better then we need to see that :-)
also, did you have IBIS on? it looks like noe stabilization at all, just like my xt3 lol
That's why I said I'm shocked Fuji allowed this into the hands of youtubers to review in its current state. Based on this firmware I would never buy it. Hopefully I can get my hands on a finished copy some day.
@@cameraconspiracies that will be 2 years from now.
I expect the final firmware will clean up the awful jitters in the IBIS and a few other things, but as a video-centric camera, I’m not sold. Fujifilm have introduced a “catch up” camera which, in many respects, still leaves them a year behind the competition. I like Fuji for stills, and I will probably hang onto my X-T4 for the limited stills work I need to tackle these days. But for a compact cinema rig for gimbal/drone work, I’m probably better off with Sony which (for instance) has complete integration with the new DJI Transmission system. Fuji has been a walled garden for too long, and the X-H2 is not enough of an upgrade to keep me tuned into the brand.
It's always the same: Fuji launches a new model with a variety of flaws. Yes, some of the errors will then be fixed by means of firmware updates. But do we photographers always want to be the guinea pig? Since I had these negative experiences with the X-T4 in the spring of 2020, Fuji is no longer in the race when it comes to buying a new camera.
If that was a Panasonic camera performing like that autofocus-wise, there would have been such an over-reaction. But here, it's within the Fuji magic normal operation? Be consistent my man
oof that autofocus was painful to watch.
This is a video comparison I’ve been waiting for… I want to buy my wife a new camera for an upcoming amazing holiday as an upgrade from her very dated Nikon D5 - the XH2s has been an option since I knew of the rumours but I was erring on the side of the XT4 until you put the 50s2 back in. I’d (almost) discounted the 50, but I’m of the mind that it is far and away the best option. Thank you.
Psssst: keep the D5
I'd wait a little and see
Very professional new intro animation
Like for Fuji to add a firmware update to their promo pens
XT4 rejects your face on principle, LOL
I'll hold off until the firmware comes.. what i saw was jittery ibis and autofocus still pulses..
But XT4 for photography especially in lowlight or astrophotography is still the best among the rest.
Pentax?
it will be aight
Hmmm -- watching your AF side-by-side, the XH2s was faster than the XT4, but watch the white light in the upper background -- that pulsing would make Panasonic proud!!!!
X-T4 has ADHD, it can't focus for long :)
So 240p 1080 is horrible, but we got decent 4K 120p, quite good for me! Thanks a lot for this review
Confirmed I made the right decision last week when I sold my T4 and bought an A7iv. Why would someone pay $2,500 for this camera instead of A7iv at same price?? If it’s APS-C you want, save yourself $1k and buy the new R7 - guaranteed it’s not equipped with balloon detect. 🤪🤣
Man, I was amazed by your presentation. Thanks for your effort. It was a very nice presentation and I watched it laughing, sometimes.
I understand this: there is no huge difference between xt-4 and xh2s, it is more professional in focusing, but there are still scenes where it misses the focus, in the current camera.
Greetings from Türkiye my friend :).
going to wait for firmware fixes to roll in and then get the camera at a discount on blackfriday hopefully
OH. new intro! Interesting early review!
The stabe on indoors looks almost worse or very similar than oly 100-400 and 300 f4 when you tested in the other store previously. I think you could test the olympus lenses outdoor to be fair. The 100-400 fuji looks pretty good in your wildlife stuff, but inside the store it looks like you had a child pulling from your sleeve or moving your arm. 150-600 looks good, but it's also not the most stable image in artificial light
Why would anyone use a 150-600 indoors?!?!?
@@catsfpv603 😂 this
The pen at the end of the video bro 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
IF your a contractor and photography and on the fuji system
yes - would get it
I have a XT3 one day will get a XH2 or XH3 :)
I might be the only person that actually wants the fan. I film in a non-airconditioned woodshop, making projects. Is the XHSs cost worth having to no longer wait on the xt4 to cool down between shots? 100% Video.
What we all waited.
Autofocus is overrated. Autoneh is where it’s at. Keep it blurryeal. Respect ✊🏽
Ya know, I am appalled. You would think that Hollywood would rip you away from us and make you an star of icon proportions. You are, needless to say, a natural actor. You're like a De Niro dominating the scene like Mike Tyson ripping thru opponents in his prime. Come ON Hollywood, go ahead and take our man to your bosom and we won't cry. Much. Outwardly.
That's it,
Canon R7 for me :))))
the long kit lens + RF 800 (1280mm with the crop)... toneh 11000 and I will take pictures of you from UK around the flat earth curvature :D
15:18
The auto white balance is on suicide watch after the light behind you kept changing. You're everything from greenish to yellowish to cooked ham pink.
"If you were blind, you would notice it was smooth, until you saw your footage" 😂
.... IBIS is as freaky like in my X-T4 :/ AF too isnt good... I think that fuji dont think serious about film makers. How about button for switching AF-C/MF? just switching, or show dialog, and need to choose?
All that flickering gave me a seizure. Fuji better have some amazing firmware fixes. That ain't gonna cut it.
You can turn on flicker reduction in the menu.
Can I pre-order the Fuji pen? ;)
Bought Sony FX3 for video. I have used XT2, XH1, XT3, XT4 before. Guys... I really love Fuji size, aestetics, colors. BUT!
Sony's autofocus, dynamic range, easy to use - is what makes me happy. I can just trust AF. This makes it dramatically easier to shoot! Run and gun:)
Dynamic range also better. Colors of modern Sony is ok. Slog3, 10 bit - ok. Size - comparable with Fuji. I love FX3. And I love brutal design of FX3 with that red lighs.
Autofocus of XH2S still sucks, as you can see from this video. Sorry Fuji. My money goes to Sony.
In studio - Blackmagic. When I don't need AF, I will use Blackmagic, not Fuji. RAW recording on SSD, power from a socket with native adapter, great colors (just the BEST colors) etc. Use BMPCC4K with 0.71 Metabones and Sigma 18-35 f1.8 lens. FX3 with Sony 20mm F1.8.
I'll wait for that 40mpix one, I think I will switch from my Nikon D800 if it will perform smoothly.
The GFX50 is a better vlog camera then the XH2
It kinda shows that the XH2s needs a faster cpu to do the math on those pixels to get sharper fhd at 240 fps. Otherwise, I think it definitely is the better camera.
They claim its processor us x4 times faster than xt4
Theoria Apophasis waiting for his turn for the XH2s at 8:13
thanks
If the fuji only improved the AF 100%, it would go head-to-head with sony. She improved points on the camera that were already excellent, but what everyone claims was the AF apparently is still the same
Love the videos! I think Fuji is able to improve a lot of these issues on both cameras over time with firmware, however at the moment I think the x-t4 is a better value. I don't see a big enough improvement in the AF, or the small sensor difference, the biggest thing I don't like is the top LCD screen. I see it very gimicky, I would rather have the manual buttons for ISO, etc. for me personally.
Perhaps Fuji was forced to slash their budget for the firmware testing, tweaking, and updating and they only have one guy working part-time on it.
That would explain all the initial bugs as well as the way that they eventually fix most of the problems 18 to 24 months later.
They probably decide the release date six months in advance and ask the firmware intern if it’ll be ready by then, he’s like yeah that’ll be fine but then he just watches Gerald Undone to try to learn how cameras work until the last minute
I don’t really shoot vids, but your channel is always entertaining. Some of the best out there. When I do decide to shoot vids…I will have to figure out what the hell flog, flog2, etc means. Note: Don’t google flog video. Unless you are into floggings, then go ahead.
It should be written as 'F-log' for clarity.
@@tech-utuber2219 lol. I got it now. :) I wasn’t even thinking about flogging. Well, not at that moment.
Nice new intro :D
I did enjoy this video, thank you
Medium format is glorious.
Baloon autofocus?? You didn't turn it off in the menu, did you?
Xt4 and the pen is just enough for now 😉
love the new opening!
Hm tha AF improved from unusable to very bad. It may improve a little in 6 months.
i don't understand why they would release a camera that's half ass finished. you wouldn't buy a car that missing say a steering wheel or a break pedal. Sort your sh*t out and then release your camera. It's been 4 years since the XH1, what's another 6 months. This might be the year I move over to Sorny.
Wow, glad I ditched Fuji some time ago. Their AF and IBIS are still horrible and I don't believe Fuji one bit that some firmware in the future will iron those things out. The same was promised all those years and the final effect is always the same. Maybe next gen sensors in couple of years will finally solve AF at least but current generation only got a little bit better. Non stacked version will be even worse and that is really not funny Fuji.
fuji needs to fix their flaws , there are not. if cameras had Panasonic or Olympus ibis with sony or canon autofocus it will be perfect enough
I ignore fuji on ergonomics and build quality alone
@@fredriksvard2603 is best they buy sony sensor lol
This guy, gets hold of a unit for 10mins tests it inside out the self important clowns on other channels have it free for months a head and no fs given… bravo vegetable boy