Extreme Combine Challenge: CHEAP VS EXPENSIVE!
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- Опубликовано: 5 дек 2022
- Red Vs Green. John Deere Vs. Case IH. Who takes home the trophy as being the best combine in the world?
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It’s incredible to see the thought and engineering that goes into these machines, regardless of brand!
BTW: We like Scott from TITAN TIRE. Darn nice guy, knowledgeable and always leaves a big imprint where ever his tires roll.
but isn't he trying to avoid leaving big imprints 🤔
10/10 Scott is a great dude and he always brings pizza!
@@iamtheonenonly250 it's just because he leaves a bigger imprint than the tires do
Red, green, purple or lavender. I’d like to tip my hat to all the engineers, designers and other brainiacs who are responsible for these marvels of modern technology. The capabilities of these machines are crazy! They can steer themselves, pick your crop, remove kernels from cobs (or beans from pods), determine the yield, spit & spread trash out the back, etc., etc. All while you are cool & comfy in the cab. And if that weren’t impressive enough, they look pretty cool in drone shots, too! Kudos to anyone who has a hand in designing & creating these fantastic beasts!
Hats off to the technology for sure… engineers could of put a few ideas in to make them easier to work on for Joe’s like me.
Which ones are purple & lavender?
For the case funnels, just press on them and set the sensitivity. You'd change the sensitivity per the crop you're doing and possibly even conditions you're in. That scales what it shows you per the colors.
I’m a firm case ih fan but you did a great job of pointing out both sides pros and cons. It was also very informative and interesting. Good job
I expected at the "maintenance/repairs" part there to be a strike against Deere for trying to stop self-repairs? Making downtimes and ginormous trips to authorised dealers inevitable? I mean the right-to-repair case against Deere was won last January, but it's the same juggernaut run by the same people; I'd be very wary. [Not running any equipment myself so it's second- thirdhand opinions, hence I ask.]
I'm a 62 year old woman who has never run any type of equipment, although I've been around all types of logging equipment (my late husband's business). You kept my attention and did a great job explaining all this. A+ Cole!
im a 99 year old great great great grandpa and I drive a CCC cement mixer up and down Ventura Blvd in my skiveys on Thursday afternoons in May , wanna meet up for coffee and a bite to eat at the 7 11 ?
Dude has the Facebook boomer market cornered.
I think Cole forgot about all the problems they had the first year with the Case. I also think it is a learning curve for the John Deere and 50 hours isn't that long. After all it took almost 2 years to get the Case dialed in where they liked it. That first year they with the case they had so many problems with break downs and loss. However, the man knows what he likes, you can't fault him for that. Seriously each brand has its own good points and bad points. No one brand is better or worse than the other. I operated Deere, Case, Massey, New Holland they all have their own good and bad points.
hmm, but maybe you forgot this was the 2nd John Deere combine. Seems to me that's kind of a wash - but if really we want to be honest, that would mean John Deere wasn't even in the game. And sure, 'supply issues' but supply issues is euphemism to "company thought they could save money by outsourcing; thus, this "supply issues" totally their fault."
U see there all good but nh Is best
@@stoneshrink they all break down
@@connorhemenway8967 I completely agree - but it seems the person who wrote the original comment didn't remember that....
That used to be so but all we've seen is the build quality of the red ones is down the tube, just look at Ivers this year, they bought 2 brand new 9250s and had major issue's all season, they ended up with 3 different combines on loan to get done, the Deere is still built to a lot higher standard.
As somebody who was around 1660s, 2366s, and 2388s, the amount of room and luxuries in those cabs blows my mind. In the 1660 I was around you were lucky if the AC even worked. It didn't have the beeper to warn when the bin was full. The 23's did but still didn't have all those amenities.
You must have seen a lot broke down too They are 2 of them around here and they stay Broke down an that's ant because I don't like them it's just that u can't see one run very long
@@williamcorleu5839 actually the ones I was around didn’t break down much at all. I can count about four major incidents over the course of 10 years
The editing just gets better and better. Very informative.
The spreader on the Deere folds right up out of the way. So once you put a hitch on, towing a trailer is no worries
The Deere back chopper opens real easy with a rocker switch
That's right
Great overview of both machines but comparing anything 2014 to 2021 is not apple's to apple's. I'd be curious to see what a 21 case looks like
THIS! Some red dealer is surely watching this and needs to come to the party next season :P The colour really doesn't matter these days, they all work, and they all break down, the most important thing is how well your dealer looks after you, and with the treatment the Cornstars are getting from VanWall you couldn't blame them if they turned the whole farm green :D
@@Muffin_Masher Yep, what is really matter to us, farmers is which is the closest dealer that we have a good relationship is. The color is just a second thing in this matter.
agreed, in terms of tech, that's a few generations..
I can tell ya right now that the new cases put the older ones to shame, lots of good upgrades!
The Case was the 2014 I believe?
I was raised with Green and I couldn’t agree more with your final conclusion. If they melted these two machines together just like you stated, it would be the perfect machine.
Very interesting - thank you for taking the time and effort to run through the detailed comparison Cole.
Doesn’t matter what kind or brand of combine you have it matters how well you take care of your equipment
This was a very thorough and meticulous.
It kind of describes you Cole. You spent a lot of time filming and editing this. Thanks.
This was really well done. Kept my attention all the way through.
One thing I noticed watching these videos all year is it seemed like something went wrong on the case almost every episode.
True, but the case is a 2014. The previous owner got rid of it right before all those mid life hassles popped up. They made it through it though. Things should smooth out. That’s why a 2014 is 200k cheaper.
Or when cole priced the 9250’s they were all 2nd when comparing 4wd machines new vs old
it is well used. they are deep into the regular mantince period of that thing. but the deer is in its brand new mechiene honeymoon before you gotta start replacing stuff.
They got a Lemon. I wish they had of compared the s790 with the 9230, both being class 9. It seems the Larsons and Millenial favor the green machines for harvest. Would have been more interesting if they had went a little more empirical . Speculative ratings are tough.
@Pm Phone Larsons and Zacks channels are sponsored by Deere, thats why they sound like they love them. Plus the dealers are 15min or so away from their farms.
Thank you for making this video. Very well thought out and executed. Extremely informative and yet still very entertaining.
I'm a noob video game farmer and loved every second of this! You did a fantastic job and I appreciate how many hours it actually took to make this. Thank you.
COOPER deserves a raise and have his pick of red or green!
Especially when he doesn't have to pay a dime to use the green equipment for the season.
Very nicely done Cole!
Good video and interesting seeing how these machines work. My place borders 200 acres and they grow either corn or cotton. They have an attachment for cotton that drops the huge round bails which is cool to watch.
Being simple to operate is open for debate…I’m still trying to cipher the new radio controls in my truck.
Awesome Content Cole! A very fair review and comparison of both machines IMHO. Probably one of your longest videos, and one of the most interesting.
Fun comparison! It's amazing how similar some of the things on each machine are, and then how many are so different. I learned a lot and I don't even farm.
I have owned both these combines over the last 8 years. 3 case 9230 then 3 790 JD. I think you did an excellent job at comparing. Nailed it. Technology on JD is amazing. Simplicity, grain quality, setting on case are awesome. Just waiting for case to come out with something comparable to the x9!🤞
They have new Holland twin rotors . Check them out lol.
@@shoresharp8349 We have looked at New Holland twin rotors. But we have a poor dealership in our area. Dealership support is important to us!
@@kevinlillico48 the class 9 new Holland is a bad boy!
But where they have good dealers they thrive pretty good... same thing for a claas...cause I’d run either if had good service here...
But I’m partial to my 8230 also!..
Outstanding job of comparing these 2 combines
There is a switch to raise the tail board. You can pull header trailers with a John Deere’s as well
It’s almost like one is simple and from 2014 and one is super technical from 2021. One being easier to work on, and one more complicated with more capabilities. I wonder if you had the newer case if things would be more hidden or technical? Just curious.
Red will still be just red, there is reason Mercedes & Chevy are both at the auto mall.
Can never go wrong with Green
This is probably the best combine comparison i ever saw. And not just combine of i think about it but to compare any machine in general. Nice work. I watched everything and I'm not even a farmer... I just miss claas combines, here in Europe claas is nr. 1 i think.
Thought, Time and Effort went into this. Well done Cole. I watched the whole thing!
I work in the auto industry and have always wanted to know how a combine works as they amaze me. I learned a huge amount. My father worked in the auto industry in Europe and for years supplied a tractor-maker. The fact that auto steer is something like 40+years old was one of the things that blew my mind about farming. I regret not following my dream and giving agricultural college a go. What I'd give to drive a Case IH today...!
When it comes to price, there is no such thing as a cheap combine!
Nope or a better one
My cheapest machine- International 1480, bought in 2006 for $9500, put $2500 in repairs, sold in 2011 for $7500. Total acres ran through it was 2500. Less than $2/A (plus fuel and lubricants)
Amen!
walt66a right you are, but you want real heart failure, spec out a new Deere CP770 cotton picker. Time we got ours like we wanted it, it was 1.1 million. It's being built now. We did get a nice trade in number on the 2019 CP690 though.
@@tommathews3964 that is ridiculous
I liked the final franken-combine graphic. Great way to make the CASE that nothing is perfect and any combine comes with tradeoffs. The one thing I have heard over and over on these channels is how much farmers like the bigger JD grain storage.
I love the John Deere combined that's all I want to run
A field education on a really complex rolling factory. Both machines do an incredible job at increasing productivity considering the challenges of hand harvesting grains.
I know it will get a lot of laughs, would love to see a side by side of a Gleaner S98, yep it’s just a Class 8 due to less horse power but there’s a reason it needs less horse power to due the same job. Also would have been nice to see fuel consumption between the Case & Deer, unless I missed it. Maybe do a Gleaner next year since 2023 is its 100th Anniversary. Also the new larger Cases come with a different monitor & also have new Auto Control settings for Adjusting settings, most agree that using auto control on the 9250 is equal to or better then the most experienced operator.
Great comparisons! Enjoyed the video as always!
And still awaiting the winner…. Lol
When watched it all. Tie!
Cole you did it. I would love for Chet or any green farmer do the same comparison. Time to get all the color together Cole.
AMAZING video, you covered everything that people never talk about on these machines.
Wonderful day when Cole posts.
Cole both red combines you found to match the price for case are both 2 wheel drive and that surly changes the price and I’m assuming tue deere has 4 wheel drive so that’s not a fair price comparison, other than that good video!
hi cole hope all is well you should try a gleaner for comparison i think you would love the simplicity and everything just talking from a gleaner family for 60 years totally not biased
Just a note. You can customize the funnles on your screen to your preferences by adjusting the sensitivity settings. Tap the little box on the left side of each funnel to make adjustments.
Really appreciate the time you put into this comparison video! Thoroughly enjoyed it!
Like he said they all break so pick your color and be happy with it!
As always, you keep the attention of this city boy who wishes he grow old in the country. Your channel content is vitally important for city folks to understand where their food comes from. Keep this up, you may reach a wider audience someday.
@50:24 See the spacers on top of the grates, take the 2 bolts out and put the spacer on the other side. The panel at 48:30, one of those switches should pick up the copper/spreader or at least it does on ours.
Maybe you should review a top of the line John deere cab and seats as well
The best combines are galvanized... compare either to a Gleaner
43:30 that switch box raises the tail board up clear out of way. Case looks alot faster. I think this is your best video in a long time good work
That button on the seat @ the 7:43 mark, I believe is the isolator. It let's the seat glide back and for a few inches so you don't get that back slap when you hit a bump or dip. Unlock it next time you drive the machine and you like it for what it does to save your back.
This seems like like the old F-150/ Silverado debate. Each has their pluses and minuses, but, you like what you like.
If this comparison would have been done after your first fifty hours with your Case combine, which one would have won?
Well done Cole. That is a lot of hours that went into this!
On Ideal you can park the feeder house in almost the same way as you park the header. Makes for easy access to the threshing area. On the Lexion the cooler pack is horizontal.
I worked for a case ih dealer and moved a lot of both of them and the case is more operated friendly over the John Deere and the back ladder is definitely a pain and a finger getter and I’m a big fan of of the tracks for loading and unloading on a detach in rain or snow and even ice but ice is scarier in its self
Honestly I think the Case was at a disadvantage being several years older, but then they were more familiar with it and have added aftermarket addons. I would say JD is Apple and Case is Android.
From what I’ve heard Deere and Apple have the same right to repair policy- you don’t have it
a fair comparison, apple doesnt play with anything other than apple, and has proprietary repair.
And apple sucks
Interesting comparison, for everyone in comments we are talking about two combines with single rotor. It’s not just speed but clean sample, plus clean down, servicing, wear n tear of the combine. I have work on both of them n prefer CaseIH and operation after few years the JD has not only wear paint but augers are shot.
I think the thing I like most about coles reviews are the Ergonomic details he focuses on, things like how the ladders both have a poor foot box on the top step meaning you're likely to get your toe on there in muddy boots and slip off the rung. that's the sort of stuff the engineers should be dragged into meetings for.
stuff that really sucks in day to day use.
you have so many people designing these things, a last minute decision to raise the cab 6 inches leads to two trip hazards every time you get in or out of the cab. etc.
Cole you forgot the biggest technology on the 2021 Case is the afs self learning tech is a huge bonus for the combine. Triple R farms has a new 8250 and he was blown away by the tech and self adjustment his Case performance is awesome. BTW he has all Deere tractors and a ago sprayer he has all the colors.
But don't leave out his brand new combine did not even have 3 hours on it when the rotor up inside it blew up and they had to take it to the company and replace it
Well I think you should try other ones too. Like for example Claas. Those are incredibly popular here in Europe. Or New Holland for instance. Those are fine too. Once you stared reviewing combines in my opinion you should keep doing that. People will watch that gladly. And now I am curious how would a Gleaner look in comparision to the red one. Those look to be really simple and I think they are priced very well based on their simplicity and unique design.
Oh Ho, talking about those grey ones are we?
I’ve learned from experience going from an older case to a gleaner. I’ve never run corn with it, because it’s only ever cut Wheat, Barley, lupins and oats, but it’s definitely not standing a chance against the case
1. The feeder house is oddly small and offset compared to other combines, making compatibility with header fronts difficult
2. In order to work on the combine you need to open out the auger just to get to the covers and access points to the separators sivs and concave, plus you’d spend a lot longer opening up the ladder and lifting up the engine bay roof on the gleaner than you would for any other combine ever, the Deere in that regard is much much faster.
Case hands down wins in my opinion
@@tjmfarming9584 I never had a chance to even laid my eyes on one of them gleaners since they are not available here in Europe but I saw one on youtube the other day and I immediatly noticed the odd feeder house. As far as I know some of the older Fendts had thar feature too and Gleaner is a part og AGCO so the feature might be directly copied from the older fendt models. And I am a bit concerned about the overall quality of the combine. Those are AGCO products and seeing how terrible are those new Ideals I can't imagine that AGCO is using better metals and components in Gleaner. I might be wrong tho! Like I said: Never touched and never run one of those. But honestly I would love to try and at least take a closer peak at them
A gleaner the silver sided seeder. If you want to plant next year's crop behind you yah I would get a Gleaner junk
@@jasonrathgeber5999 are those really that bad? I mean I saw a video from a channel called Brian's farming videos (or something like that) and he seems to be preatty happy about his Gleaner. And I think he switched from Claas. And Claas combines in my opinion are one of the best on the market
@Perez_Tymczasem they don't call it junk for nothing, I live in Saskatchewan Canada and I have yet to see a new one around here. Their threshing system is not good. The older late 80's might be ok but no dealers around to fix even if you had to
Great job Mr. Cole. Enjoyed every min. of the movie.
I never being in combine just like to play farm sim22 and use to search about different stuff about farms but none of them hooked me like cole did simple language and engaging. Keep it up my farmer.
As a case mechanic i'd be intrested in what you would think about a newer 21 model 9250 to compare to an x9 1000 or 1100 i've heard a lot of good and bad about both but the hype over the x9 seems to be just HP nothing else seems to have changed. Great video keep it up
Yeh, would have been nice to have both of them being the same model year.
X9 is basically a copycat of New Holland CR10 Twin Rotor. John Deere seems to have a knack for copying other manufactures. But Zach Johnson claimed that the X9 that they demoed with around 600 Hp needed more power.
Not a fair comparison a c2021 machine to a 2014 machine 2021 case will have improvements to compare to the 2021 deere
Fun video and my Great Grandfather in 1890 would love to have either one. lol Thank you and the discussions about red or green shall go on forever. In the end it is about harvesting into a bin, nothing more.
Great video!!!!!!!
That took a lot of doing. Good comparison. And I use to think the old 4 row combind was complicated. Wow times have changed. I guess for the better😒 may be.
Hello Cole have you ever considered testing a drago gt corn header? It is an italian product that promises to have almost no header loss. I've worked with it and it's a dream to use because it adjusts to each plant so almost nothing is lost.
They are also popular in the US. Good heads.
acchhh du lieber mein fruende
No such thing as no header loss. I runa gt. It's good but not perfect
@@agger838
no such thing As a header, its a shidder, i run a gloknspeilerflugen flopper and i get 13.5489 bushels per acre in the Sahara desert on Tuesdays
@@ccole9080 ?
Gotta love it, the John Deere dealership gives them a combine to use for the harvesting season and Cole craps all over it. Will Cooper have to give his season long bailer and tractor back as well? Maybe Cole can talk the dealer into giving them a tractor and seeder to use this spring.
I wish Cole would have talked about dealerships. A great dealer is priceless.
Gotta have a Deere dealer 20 minutes away for when something goes boom. Case IH is meant for field service. Can’t be running it down to the dealer 4 times in a harvest.
One big deciding factor on which brand to run is which brand has the best dealer availability and support nearby. In my area, we have several excellent Deere dealers within a 30 mile radius so farms around here with all Deere equipment out number Case IH farms 10 to 1, just for that reason.
Cole, excellent comparison between the combines.
And today's episode I'm gonna teach you how to run your farm into the ground, going into massive amounts of debt, being one year from going bankrupt, and losing everything. I'm Cole the debt star, and know nothing about profitable farming!
Thats why so many of these century farms are lost to the banks,,,,,, got to have new more fancy toys...
I have foot switch for grain tank cross auger shut off for better unloading control on s770. The foot switch would slide around, best thing I did was take a piece of used carpet, cut out to fit and solved problem besides looking great an take shoes off an soft comfort. Yes, I wish sun shades would be a plus on sides, especially on right side. I can usually position unload auger to block sun from outside on left. On the monitor, it takes time to set the way its easier for you, I'm an old guy of 67 and every year I find new things on it. Let along you forget. I love the tec support, just call and they will walk you through it and they can access your monitor in real time.
That whole entire back spreader lifts up to give access to the back of the combine
I think that the ag leader shouldve been left out because it wasnt a factory option. And you are able to lift the spreader on the back up with one of those buttons on the side to get at the sieves
Great job! Would like to see a same year comparison of track v. track
Excellent presentation, covers all the items which really matter.
Are you excited about being a dad Cole? Don't worry to much man, your going to make a great father.
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Cole knows everything...he should master it
He should be excited. He did after do the "planting", so he should be ready for the harvest. 😁😁😁
Only just found out from this they had married a few months ago. Wonder why not spoken about on this channel
@@tanianorkunas782 because they probably dont care if they tell random people on youtube about the prego or wedding when his channel is about farming.
This is a good video although a lot of it is subjective plus the year difference plays a big part.
Correct the Ag Leader foot pedal extra movement by attaching (gluing) a piece of plastic office desk mating to it. The mating will work better if its made for carpet use and has the long pointie things on the bottom, Would suggest making it 4 or 5 inches either side larger than foot pedal so pedal cannot turn over.
Outstanding job. Especially the lead-in black & white video
Wow, what a detailed review!
I wonder if you'd look at the 'other' brands of combines like Fendt or New Holland.
Color doesn't matter: Dealer support does. If your dealer will go an extra mile, then you buy the color they sell. A true comparison would have nearly identical size machines run by operator's with near equal experience in the same field. Not knowing what the seat controls are in both machines is a clue that you aren't familiar with them, so other controls may be strange, hence hard to compare. Great video, though! And your commentary is hilarious! Loved it!
Growing up, our (cousins and I) favorite color was "John Deere Green"
Painted implements (rattle cans) that weren't John Deere, John Deere Green
The work that Cooper did on Case IH not ever body can . Where would you be with out Cooper last year . Renting a machine next ? At a hell price per hour next ?
Try a Gleaner you will love it
Great job on the video Cole!! Very detailed!
WOW!! That was quite an indepth analysis!
Well guess I'm changing my plans. Looks like I'm watching the Cornstars get stuff done instead. Edit: Well maybe not getting stuff done, but I did work the brain muscle quite a bit! ...ever thought of becoming a teacher Cole?
An excellent review under the circumstances of comparing new with old.
Perhaps next year Case will lend you a new one of the same spec as the Deere for a proper comparison.
Proper comparison? He has a series 8 & a series 9 & 1 is stock with a 2x4 & the other is loaded with aftermarket upgrades
@@RK-fh1zb Which why I said:"Perhaps next year Case will lend you a new one of the same spec as the Deere for a proper comparison".
@@RK-fh1zb Also
Cole's review was unfair to both manufacturers for many reasons which is why I suggested that next year he could do a more realistic and fair review if Case lends him their up to date model of a similar spec.
Tires are tires, tracks are tracks, so they should not be included in the review.
Deere chopper and spreader is on electric motors which is all on a control panel by that 8 in door you looked through. Great video by the way.
Thank you for your tour of both machines
Don’t forget to like the video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So, in other words, go Green 👍
Add some Grab Hands or Steps to get on the combine without killing yourself.😊🎉 It's Simple, trucks have the D shaped folding steps. Make a plate with threaded holes for reinforcement behind the sheet metal.
bro got the gardettos snack mix
i respect that
SILVER!!!!