I thought I was getting some good advice about diet and nutrition on youtube until your channel popped up in the suggestion. It took more than a month of listening to many of the youtubers you fact check on your channel for it to appear - maybe that was my bubble. I am month and a half in low carb diet, fasting around 30hours once a week, lost 13kg - I was planning to experiment with carnivore - not any more. You should include some warning that after watching your, what I would call - popular science journalism channel, many other youtube channels look pathetic and some even like pure product pushers. Many thanks, this is what the world needs.
@@tarabooartarmy3654 I did not want to answer too early as I was in early stages of trying out vegan diet. I kept some keto habits like no bread, rice, potatoes, pasta... . Although I am not 100% vegan (still hate more to waste food than sticking with vegan if we cook to much of something at home) but all in all I still count week or two between single non vegan meal. Feeling good, still losing weight (another 5kg down since my post - total -18kg) and to my surprise there is so much options what to eat/cook.
@@MrYurik great to hear! I’m not 100% plant-based either, but I’ve noticed the more plants I eat the better I feel. I also cut way down on carbs. I do eat some, but not as many as I used to. My A1C is much better.
@@Joseph1NJ apparently he us blind to all the obese, metabolically dysfunctional people who got there eating highly processed plant foods predominantly. Animal foods when combined with high glycemic, high fat plant foods just compound the dysfunction. Where do you think most calories are coming from in a fast food meal. 70% of SAD calories come from plants not animals.
@@OilCanHarry2U All plants are toxic... It's merely a matter of their level of toxicity, which the same can not be said for meat, as nothing in it is inherently toxic to our human cells.
I lost 40 lbs in 3 months dropping the high glycemic plants and eating mostly meat, fish, eggs and low glycemic vegs and fruit. I have maintained it 2.7 years now and my bp went from 140/90 to 110/68 for a yearly average.
@@GregariousAntithesisyes, short term gains. His comment just showed you what to expect in the next decade (“it takes time”). Bottom line is: I’ve seen dozens of centenarians on Mediterranean or wfpb, and zero carnivores over 85. But hey…. It’s your life.
Amazing video! I am always waiting for your new upload because i know how much time and effort you put to do these and the high quality resulted from all that work; the long wait always worth it. Since i discovered your channel i binge watched all your episodes and i am impressive in spite all the bad comments you receive you keep a good spirit and the excellence in your videos. I am humbled and impressed you took my recommendation about Dan Ariely book, as you said in many of your videos "my heroes are great scientist" i have the same kind of heroes but with some communicators added so when i heard you named Dan´s book i felt like if one of my heroes made a blink on me lol. Thank you for your work, it's truly inspiring. Hugs and blessings from Argentina
Dr Ames is nearly 96. And Dr. Keys died two months short of his 101st birthday. Seems like plants are crap at killing us. So going to definitely eat more. 😜
Ancel Keys was a documented fraud, paid off to promote the flare claim that eating saturated fat and cholesterol is bad for heart health, this clias been proven false many times over.
Why dont you mention his first principle that plants inherently contain toxins as their main defense against being wiped out. Many plants are extremely toxic and can make you sick or even kill you when you eat a small amount. He argues, with evidence that all plants, even the ones we eat regularly, contain natural toxins that are detrimental to our health over time.
😂 However did you come up with that conclusion? And wow. Drank and smoked till 91 fabulous. He probably enjoyed his life too. And that's what it all comes down to. Not science. But enjoying one's own - one - life. 🎉 By the way what's a "5th of booze"? 🤔
@@Viva-Longevity - great channel Chris...appreciate all the effort that you put in here to inform the world.Just one question on diabetes & insulin resistance/fatty liver etc...How do we explain Dr Bernstein's success?
@@eugenetswong There is nothing inherently wrong with bias if you are biased towards the truth. And while you can know a lot and not be wise, it’s far more likely to be unwise if you know little.
@@eugenetswong No there isn't. But that does not mean by any stretch of the imagination that less knowledge is superior to more. knowledge. Never forget that **none < less < more < all**
@@BartBVanBockstaele People aren't computers. They can get information overload, and they can easily think that they know all there is for their current decision. Being a doctor or lawyer in a difficult situation will give you the most information, but it doesn't improve your ability to make decisions. You need somebody, who is not involved, and thus can make clearer decisions.
Oh. Yeah. Let’s say it again: “the nuclear winter of the public trust is a gold rush.” You say you dislike “debunking” and I think I know why you’re saying it… but you’re good at it and it’s needful, especially from folks who can do it with humor, reason, and open-mindedness. Your lack of vitriol and egomania are an incredibly strong currency. Social media algorithms don’t reward integrity. But history does.
Yep. He got me out of the rabbit hole.. I'm not vegan, but cut down to mostly chicken and fish when I do have meat as I'm putting on muscle with exercise and it helps me get there, but I also learned here about heme iron, saturated fat, and also those being much better for the environment than cows or pigs or other red meat. I get about half my protein from plants and get about 140g/day. Takes about 3000kcal a day to maintain weight at my activity level.
For 98% of this video, I was under the impression that Chaffee was an MD. I was therefore mystified how he could so cooly make such outrageous claims. Losing 23 lbs while quintupling caloric intake, for example, is clearly impossible, But when the closing moments of your talk revealed that he was not an MD, but an imposter, everything fell into place. What's shocking (but not surprising) is the extent to which media are giving this sociopath such a bully pulpit. Keeping abreast of the truth about nutrition and health in this country is akin to swimming upstream through a river of shit. I'm grateful you and people like you are doing it. I couldn't. Thank you.
Watch all the way through, he only reported what Chafagee claim his qualifications are, at the end is his realty, 4 weeks at one college. Do keep up boys.
I was half-way down the Nina Teicholz inspired nutritional ideology funnel hole before finding Plant Chompers. As time went on, I found that the arguments and evidence presented by Chris/Plant Chompers and others like him to be more compelling than those of Teicholz and others who espouse similar "anti-establishment" claims as she does about meat, saturated fat, seed oils, etc.
I was too! I bought her book, listened to all of the carnivore people and was so impressed by the stories by commenters who had such miraculous healing from their carnivore diets. I went on the carnivore diet, and also did a very strict keto diet and felt **terrible** then I found Plant Chompers, Simon Hill, Gil Carvalho and the Physionic channel and got my senses back! WFPB now, and my energy (61 years old) and a lot of health markers have moved all up for the better! I love Chris' scientific, careful approach! Totally changed my mind.
I have carefully watched every Chris video. They are well-made and dense with info , but I'm still carnivore. His problem is that he worships authority. He thinks a science degree confers god-like powers. But researchers, like influencers, are just humans, fallible and subject to political agendas. Gil Carvallo? Simon Hill? They are not credible people to me. I watch all their stuff and am not persuaded.
Aside from this (Plant Chompers) channel, here are some other sources I've found helpful, should you be interested: www.youtube.com/@TheProofWithSimonHill www.youtube.com/@NutritionMadeSimple www.youtube.com/@NourishedByScience www.youtube.com/@PrimitiveNutrition Sigma Nutrition (search the web) I do not follow a vegan or vegetarian diet, but I also don't follow a ketogenic, carnivore, or other low-carb diet. The information from Chris (Plant Chompers) and the above sources have helped me quite a lot to clear up some of the seemingly-conflicting opinions on some topics.
Aside from this channel, here are some others I've found helpful: * TheProofWithSimonHill * NutritionMadeSimple * NourishedByScience * PrimitiveNutrition (Channel name is "Plant Positive") * Sigma Nutrition (search the web) I do not follow a vegan or vegetarian diet, but I also don't follow a ketogenic, carnivore, or other low-carb diet. The information from Chris and the above sources have helped me quite a lot to clear up some of the seemingly-conflicting opinions on some topics.
Chris, Thanks for highlighting B12 importance. Having B12 deficiency undetected for years, I attributed the symptoms of greater fatigue, degrading vision, slower recall, irritability as natural aging. And some of it was aging. Regardless of diet, full blood tests and good medical advice can change the quality of a person's life. Your tireless work and dedication is amazing!
Wonderful video. I had to stop it so many times to jot down the references of the books you mention. And the final straw about Chaffee's resume was pure genius. I watched his entire debate with Nagra, and he was really a sorry sight. Keep up the good work!
I’m not a vegan, but I love nutritional science. That being said, I watched that debate when it came out and the vegan SMOKED Anthony in that debate lol
@@biodieseler1 lol what does that mean? It's certainty not out of the realm of possibility and it's clear he uses his physique to pretend that eating all meat is the key to looking that way.
@@69camaro19 He doesn't need to. Even if the carnivore diet is lacking in things like folate (but not the other nonsense that is mentioned here), it is exceptional at bringing testosterone levels back to youthful levels.
I love your videos! Please keep them coming! I always share your content with friends and colleagues interested in healthy eating. It would be fantastic if you could do an episode with your wife where you both cook some of your family's favorite recipes. Thank you!
Just to add to my latest comment lost in the wilderness of comment section: I love your content. It is to the point and backed up with evidence. Little edits you have are making it more relaxed, like your wife interjecting with her scream for help :D. Amazing editing. However, there is something about the way you deliver the story that draws me in. It is like a river flowing. Wish I had professors like you; I would have been able to actually listen to them without my mind wondering into a great vastness of space. Thank you for doing this.
'We shouldn't be going on studies, we should be going on first principles...' probably isn't but feels like the most unscientific thing I've ever heard.
It's not, that how you understand the appropriate domain and scope of any given scientific work. He is correct. If the studies fundamentally lack what's needed then we dismiss them on that basis. Just because a 'scientist' did something doesn't mean it's useful, relevant or right.
@@isma3il2005 The point is, how do you establish 'first principles'? He's got his own idea of what those are, but he needs a strong evidentiary basis if he hopes to establish commonality on that. But worse, having said we shouldn't 'be looking at studies, as the video goes on to show, he relies on evidence from studies himself to make his argument, some of which he misrepresents to try to prove the exact opposite of what it shows.
@@JohnMoseley That depends a lot on the particular point that is being made. For example, if someone accepts the validity of the majority of studies available, its on them to reconcile studies that seem to contradict their hypothesis, but the opponent of such a position doesn't have to accept or dismiss the studies to demand that the other person be consistent in their beliefs. So he might not believe the studies, but those who do believe them HAVE to make their position internally consistent.
@@isma3il2005 Just being 'consistent in beliefs' is nothing if the beliefs aren't backed up by strong evidence, but anyway, as I say, he's not consistent in his belief that we should ignore studies. Of course the studies should be scrutinised, but he's not even doing that. In fact, he's not even reading all the ones he cites properly.
Since I posted this, I've learned that the economist, Mises, argued for deduction from first principles. So the idea sort of has more academic credentials than I knew, except that economics is not, in the sense of being able to confer certainty even in limited ways, a science, and anyway, Mises' thought was what led to neo-liberalism, which has had very harmful effects and, in parallel with the carnivore diet arguments, has been driven business interests that have skated over the fallacies.
Considering that Chaffee has a bachelor degree in Medicine, Surgery and Obstetrics, it seems you "the rest of the story" is BS. Look it up yourself instead of what this idiot is telling you. National University of Ireland, Ireland, 2013. His registration number is MED0002263360.
All he has given us is the so called "rest of the story"! He has only mentioned is passing that some people have allergies to meat and seafood and hardly mentioned allergies to plants. In fact 99.9% of the video is to do about anything other than the title of the video.
When our friends come over and see that stack of Women's World magazines that Chris bought, I wonder what they must think about where we get our info! 🙃
When they go after people like they're going after DR Anthony Chaffee like this, you just KNOW they're running scared of their lies being exposed. But you enjoy your Kelloggs, and your plant-based 'burger'.
Another fantastic video. One of my heros is Dr. John McDougall and as I was watching the video I could hear him saying, “people love to hear good news about their bad habits.” I would add that when listening to this good news they could not care less about the credentials of that news source. I’m reminded about the 1st time I read the China Study. It was laying around at a friend’s house. I told her I was surprised she read the book and was still eating steaks. She said it has been debunked by reputable scientists and Dr Campbell cherry picked the data. I was questioning my whole diet until I actually read the “reputable” “science”. Needless to say my faith in actual science was restored, but to this day she thinks I’m a lunatic. I wear that moniker with honor.
Dr. McDougall told people good news about their bad habits that they did not have to do much exercise and just to eat a mostly 90% starch based diet of potatoes, rice and corn, 3 foods that are not even listed in the Jewish or Christian bible for humans to eat. So McDougall has a higher rank and status than the bible?
@@Jeffs60 potatoes and sweetcorn originally came from the Americas and rice from the Far East. Naturally they were unknown to the Middle Eastern 'lying pen of the scribes' who, thousands of years ago, wrote the various books that make up the bible.
Keep up the good work Chris. My wife and I enjoy your videos immensely. Your skill at forensically debunking carnivore diet advocates is incredible plus you do it in such an utterly lovely and polite way, keeping the debate centred on fact and not sensationalism. Much love to you from Sussex, UK.
Plants are both food and medicine: "A full 40 percent of the drugs behind the pharmacist's counter in the Western world are derived from plants that people have used for centuries, including the top 20 best selling prescription drugs in the United States today." USDA Forest Service.
@@biodieseler1 More than just "bits" of advice, but his whole approach. He's a gastroenterologist who helps people determine which foods may be troubling them, and how to slowly increase the foods they're able to consume, for optimum health. His books "Fiber Fueled" and "The Fiber Fueled Cookbook" both contain strategies as well as recipes, and detailed (but not difficult) information about what may be causing various types of gastrointestinal distress. Chapter 5 of the cookbook ("Hope for Histamine Intolerance") alone is worth the price of the book.
Good point about people with all diet types being deficient in some nutrients. I knew a lady who ate meat consistently and her doctor told her she was too low in Vitamin D. The deficiences happen in all of us, potentially.
Just about everybody is vitamin d deficient at different levels. I guarantee you are. You primarily get it from the sun. Geo location of the patient plays a bigger role than diet. Some fish is very high in vit d but our body struggles to absorb it. If you look at the Inuits in alaska they eat primarily seafood yet all are vit d deficient. Like everyone that lives in those climates. Get more sun!
we live in that world. the problem is all the extremely clever mis- and disinformation and in general, information hazards. you should hope for a world where information flow is crippled! otherwise its analysis paralysis...
He did not receive an MD from the Royal College of Surgeons. He received an MBBS - which is a lower bar to clear. He’s also not a neurosurgery resident. The guy is a total fraud.
Y'all are so stupid and don't want to learn anything. Close your eyes & ears, go eat all the sugar, carbs and plants and leave the meat for me & mine. 😂🎉
Thanks for doing this Chris, such an important video to do. I was feeling like one of your videos was going to pop up, and here it is; it always makes my day when one of your videos comes up....I'll comment again when I finish watching this later
Anthony Chaffee does not appear to be a registered doctor. By law all doctors in Ireland have to register with the Medical Council in order to practise. I see from your excellent video that Anthony Chaffee claims to have studied to become a doctor at the prestigious Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland between 2009 and 2013. (35:48 minutes). This is easy to check as it is a public record; just Google - Medical Council Ireland public records and put in his name. My search comes up with: 'No records could be found'. I have emailed the Medical Council here to check the validity of his claims and will keep you posted. My own doctor comes up immediately in great detail with just a surname. By the way, his claims to be an Irish Rugby National Champion thing is a laughable crock too. It's a team sport: there is no such thing as 'Irish National Rugby Champion'. This guy is pretty special alright - but for very different reasons.
He’s a registered doctor here in Perth Australia. Last time I checked, Australian doctors are still doctors. Do more thorough research before slandering someone with false claims. He also has his own practice specialising in metabolic health, and studying to be a neurosurgeon. What do you do for work if you don’t mind me asking?
He is a practicing brain surgeon, maybe if you were not eating a plant base diet you would have the intelligence to do more research before looking like a complete idiot and uneducated fool
What our ancient ancestors ate only tells us how to live long enough to pass on our genes. Humans today have a much wider selection of food choices than our hunter-gatherering predecessors. Today, we tend to live a lot longer than our ancient ancestors did. Populations today who eat mostly animals tend to have a very short lifespan compared to their fellow countrymen.
@someguy2135 so true that. Had a friend who worked in an inuit village on an island in AK. The oldest person was on deaths door at 70. They die from strokes. They exist almost entirely on meat and the only green is plucked from tundra and preserved in seal blubber. And some carnivore channels who talk a big story have zero idea of or are in denial of their actual plight.
@@janefreeman995- Inuit live in a very harsh climate. That takes its toll as well. Look into Macao, Hong Kong and other countries that have the highest meat ratios per year (Spoiler alert: they have the longest life expectancies).
@@evad8262 Admittedly just a quick google search, but that says average life expectancy in Macao is 85. Not bad, but studies have repeatedly shown that the so-called 'blue zones' have the highest life average expectancy and the largest numbers of centenarians. The diets there were mostly plant-based and, in terms of animal protein, often included more fish than meat. But the key seems to have been a lot of fruit and veg, especially brassicas, and beans.
@@JohnMoseley - I think it is simple. We are made of protein. As for energy we can use either fat (ketones) or carbs (glucose). As long as the body gets all the nutrition it needs, it will stay healthy. Like said in the video: in cold climate more fat will be used. In hot climate more carbs will be used. Look how many ex-vegans/vegetarians are bow healing on carnivore. How many do you find transitioning the other way? (from carnivore/keto to vegan?) It is not about ideology/principles. It is about having a healthy body and mind. When you travel around asia/countryside- they eat anything to get enough protein. Fish, Eggs (many cannot afford meat), insects, rats, cats, gekos, any small animal, bird. It is instinkt. They have protein hunger and try to meet it. Look into Hadza - they have a high diversity considering foo. More than 600 different food sources per year. Out of those are >500 animals (different birds etc.). So when you read about high diversity, look further what they mean by it.
ancestors lived a long time, but not only the ones from the times before we went into the savanna and hostile environments. in modern times we only live longer with artificial intervention like drugs, surgeries and so on. if you want to compare you have to do it on equal basis.
Don't forget the data which is least in doubt: your own experience. Try various diets for a month or two and observe how you feel. That's just what people have been doing: not ignoring the actual data of their own experience. How they feel mentally and physically and whether they see their diabetes, auto-immune diseases ailments of various kinds disappear. That's exactly why this diet has been taking of and gaining steam. Exactly because people do not ignore the actual data. I do think first principles thinking is very important and a good way to avoid group-think and false beliefs generally. One of the ways Chaffee applies it is by relying on human evolution. He takes it as a truism or axiom that the diet on which a species evolved is the optimal diet for it because the species literally adapted / optimized over millions of years to be able to thrive on that particular diet. Then it comes down to studying paleo-anthropology, archaeology and other fields which shed light on what humans and pre-human ancestors have been eating the last couple millions of years. Comparative anatomy can provide corroborating evidence as well and maybe human bio-chemistry and other fields too.
@peter5.056 If you want to go back to first principles what about thermodynamics. Like you cannot thermodynamically loose weight and increase calories.
@@sadface7457 Metabolic rate is not a Constant of the Universe. You're assuming that in your claim, aren't you? It is indeed biologically possible and also thermodynamically possible in that context to increase calories and lose weight. Humans aren't closed systems. Similarly it is biologically possible and thermodynamically possible in that context to reduce calory intake and gain weight. I'd suggest not ignoring endocrinology and bio-chemistry in general when making statements like you did here. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing...
Great video! I think it's worth mentioning that there are plant sources of B12 but they're just not practical. Nori is the best candidate as 30g of it cover your daily requirements, but that's a lot of nori. One study looked at a few kids in Japan who grew up on a vegan diet unsupplemented and had no deficiencies.
Love your work, Chris and appreciate your extensive research and validation of underlying sources! I make a concerted effort to view your content within hours of upload.
Another superb presentation, Chris. It's nice to see you and Toni again. I'm very sorry for the passing of your wonderful friend, Matt Silverman. May he rest in peace.
Herbivores eat mostly grass and leaves which are definitely less toxic than vegetables and other plant products. Humans aren't herbivores anyway so your point is mute...
@@erickgreen2361 So how am I still alive at 61. And stronger than I was at 35. The last time I ate any meat. You meat industry agents aren't going to fool any smart people. Only low IQ fools.
Thanks so much for keeping me thinking, causing me to re-evaluate how I talk about diet with those who don't agree with me. Even better is the constant surprise that the best advice comes back to the blue zone ways of living - and how even though I know that, I push back on some of it without really being aware of it. Great to watch this and remember to make better choices, even when I think I understand. Appreciate all your hard work posting.
Thank you so much for making these videos based on science and fact! Your videos helped me transition from a meat-heavy keto diet to a mostly whole food plant based diet. 2 years keto: cholesterol 368, A1c 5.8, BP 136/76 3 months plant based: cholesterol 138, A1c 5.2, BP 102/57 I’m also starting to enjoy running which I avoided before because I hated it so much. Plants for the win! Seems like meat is trying to kill us, not plants.
Definitely can identify with the B12 issue. Several years ago before going plant based I became so B12 deficient I had to get injections, then supplements. Became anemic too. Now as a plant eater I continue to take my
Chris, thank you for doing what you're doing! Your dedication to science and our best estimation of the truth is something I try and will keep trying to emulate. I can only imagine how tiring it must be for you to keep at it, especially with all the vitriol that the various camps spew at one another (and at you). If it means anything, you have saved me from the funnel of disbelief. A few years ago, I was very much blindly following certain schools of thought regarding the "superiority" of the carnivore and ketogenic diets over the vegan and Mediterranean diets. Fortunately, the RUclips algorithm somehow recommended me one of your videos, and I began my slow climb out of the funnel. It was certainly a frustrating and difficult climb, but you made it easier by presenting the evidence, arguments, and counter-arguments with such poise and professionalism. From the opposite side of the globe and from the bottom of my heart, I thank you. I almost never leave comments on RUclips videos, but I think this is but a simple way I can return the favour - hopefully the RUclips algorithm will work its magic for others as it did for me!
The B12 thing is part of what pushed me *towards* plant-based eating. At a physical a few years ago when I was still eating meat daily, I came back B12 deficient. I began a b-vitamin supplement as a daily meat eater. So I thought, if I’m going to be supplementing B12, why not go more plant-based? B12 numbers have been within normal limits ever since and my meat consumption is way reduced.
@@amrass08 Vitamin B12 is only in meat if you need to take a supplement you obviously have an absorption problem. But what were your symptoms eating meat. And are you eating other things that cause that problem?
So right… celiac, SIBO, other gastrointestinal issues, lupus, pernicious anemia, etc. Drinking too much water can do this as well. Too much caffeine can deplete all b vitamins…. They are water soluble.
@@Damcarnivore It's also in supplements and some plant-based foods (look it up!). But supplements are cheap, easy to take and minimize the risk of a deficiency. Depending on where you get your meat there's a good chance you're eating animals that have got their b12 through supplements too.
@@jamesfagan136 come on even vegan sites admit you don’t get b12 from plants that’s why 100 veganism didn’t exist until after 1947 when it was first used
@@Ezramicon His source on the naturally occurring plant pesticides he cites for plants trying to kill us even states that the concentration and metabolism of the compounds is likely irrelevant in typical dietary patterns. His citation of his textbook saying the amounts of carcinogens in plants, that's basically nowhere to be found and most searches yield results on the anticarcinogenic effects of phytochemicals. He references some Swedish (i think that's correct, but it's a Scandinavian country) study in the speech that was referenced in this video about how eliminating plants caused some beneficial effects in the subjects, and when i searched for it no results came up and he didn't specify the title, authors, or date. His logic is also completely idiotic, as he says there is a species specific diet that animals adapted to eat by figuring out what plants they can eat safely, yet humans have done the exact same thing. Then he claims the epidemiological studies on the cancer rates in regards to plant consumption should be ignored, yet even when considering healthy user bias and whatnot it's pretty obvious that the plants weren't contributing to harm.
Genuinely your videos are incredible, I'm quite young and i used to be far more aggressive towards others when it came to misinformation regarding any science illiteracy. However, after watching your (and Gil's) effective communication of nutrition without trying to create polarization, I've forever been far more patient when explaining ideas to people that they don't understand. For that I thank you, I watch every one of your videos and for the time being I will continue!
Hi Chris. As your friend, I have a sincere question: you mention you thought Anthony’s social media “ran circles around you” and that he’d likely be unwilling to debate. Does that mean you’d be willing to debate him, provided a neutral host? You’re well aware I disagree with each on you on certain matters, and don’t mean this as a set-up on any sort… but I am interested in what would transpire if you two sat down. If I could get Anthony to accept, would you be game. Maybe our mutual mild-mannered friend Dave could host?
Free form is fine. I'm cool with Dave or you. I'm a little bit crushed trying to get TEDx Boston Longevity organized for October 1st. I interview Ginger Hislop, who just got her master's degree from Stanford at 105, topic never stop learning, next week in Yakima, Washington, and I leave for Africa with fam for 3 weeks July 24th. But free second half of August, first half September.
@@Viva-LongevityAnother overseas family holiday, Chris? What happened to your earth science background and climate change concern for our planet and all its inhabitants? Hypocrisy?
The idea that we are somehow carnivores by nature has always boggled me, when even our basic physiology defies that. Even the fact that carbohydrates are the metabolically preferred and better source of energy compared to protein and fat should be a clear indicator what we should be eating as species, and by logical extension, being proclaimed ''omnivores'', we don't have a need for animal sourced protein and fats whatsoever, unlike ''true'' omnivores in the wild who do need to consume animal flesh and only consume plants as an addition. How is it logical to assume protein and fat, like that of meat, etc. are better when the body literally needs to put a lot more time and effort in its utilization for energy.
Say that you don't understand human biochemistry, anatomy and history without saying that you don't understand human biochemistry, anatomy and history.
The classification of omnivore is based by behavior, not only physiology. And physiologically we utilize animal proteins much more efficiently than plants, this is consistently verified. A varied nonrestrictive is what is best. We're metabolically adaptable and can basically eat whatever we want.
@@VegetaPrinceOfSaiyans ''And physiologically we utilize animal proteins much more efficiently than plants,''...no we don't. Such a claim is not supported scientifically. There is no need for animal sourced food whatsoever.
@@polibm6510 Ah yes, the ignorant, uneducated trolls and potential carnivore nonsense supporters have arrived. As amusing as you bunch are, unless you have anything of scientific substance to offer, i'm not particularly interested in wasting time at this moment.
My wording is weird there. Animal proteins are more bioavailable is what i mean. This is verified in multiple papers. You would just need to eat more protein from plants. @@Kristers_K
Love your videos. One comment: there was background music during the “misbelief” section and it made it more difficult to understand you. I hadn’t noticed that in previous videos. FYI.
I would love to see a video on the making of these videos, Im always impatient for the next one, while at the same time I always have to remind myself that it has to be painstakingly time consuming and a lot of work to do them, I mean just the sheere amount of books we get presented with it's mindblowing, not to mention the depth of the arguments 🤯
@ivantasev7678 Thank you. 🙏 It's not the path to RUclips stardom but I feel like RUclips doesn't need more content at this point, it needs better content. Obviously RUclips and viewers disagree. 😅
@@Viva-Longevity So true Chris. The medical info people are spewing on YT is outrageous and getting worse..."Eat this fruit to cleanse your...pancreas, ... liver,...kidney, whatever in 3 days...blah blah blah... and on and on it goes...and people watch and believe them. Pretty sad stuff being put out there.
"A tick bite could be dangerous to carnivores." OH NO, not a tick bite!! You can still be a carnivore without eating red meat, you goof. I see that you're trying to frame it as if you’re concerned for people on the carnivore diet, but this affliction is so RARE-you’re more likely to get E. coli from your salad. Also, I absolutely love the bit about carotenoids. It's probably the wildest and most unscientific thing you said in the entire video. Did you bring this up simply because people on the carnivore diet claim they don't burn as easily, and this is your way of trying to discredit anecdotal evidence? I personally would rather know WHY people are making these claims instead of just dismissing them because you heard that carotenoids may or may not help protect us from UV damage, and there’s not a significant source of them in meat. Anyway, there is clearly evidence supporting the idea that a carnivore diet can be UV protective, but the science is speculative. In case you didn’t know, speculative doesn’t mean untrue-it means we don’t fully understand why this might be. One speculation is that meats are rich in antioxidants such as vitamin E and Coenzyme Q10, which can help protect the skin from oxidative stress. There are many other speculations, but my personal experience with the carnivore diet proved to me that this is indeed a real thing. I’m probably the best example because I went from being sickly pale (almost translucent) to "wow, you’re human now?" I was never able to tan before I tried this diet. I would turn red, blister, and peel. (Quick note: I don't think this is a superpower-I just think eating this way puts us back to a metabolic norm, meaning I wasn’t supposed to be burning as easily as I was, and now I’m back to normal.) To anyone who reads this rant, I encourage you to put your emotional bias aside and actually look into the success stories and new research coming out around the carnivore diet. I’m not saying a vegan diet is bad; it just wasn’t ideal for me personally. The carnivore diet is not your enemy. It took me a while to understand this too, and almost every carnivore will tell you it was a wake-up call for them, not something they just started doing for fun."
@@Viva-Longevity Didn't read the whole thing? Nah, I’m kidding-I won’t deflect like you did to me in a previous comment when I was asking honest questions. I admit I used some emotion to convey facts along with some anecdotal evidence. If you had read and fully understood what I was saying, you wouldn’t have asked that. So, here’s the thing: It’s a fact that Alpha-gal syndrome is rare. It’s also a fact that you can maintain a carnivore diet even with Alpha-gal syndrome. And it’s a fact that there is no solid evidence proving carotenoids protect humans from UV damage-there isn’t even any anecdotal evidence that suggests this. If one day there is evidence to back this claim, I’d be happy to hear it. I want nothing more than for humanity to flourish, and it’s quite possible that pointing fingers without fully understanding why we’re pointing them will lead us down the wrong path.
Can you define rare? The CDC estimated last year that up to 450,000 people may have it and it's growing quickly. That's why some emergency room docs in the south asked me to raise the flag. www.cbsnews.com/news/alpha-gal-red-meat-allergy-lone-star-tick-bites-cdc/ You didn't cite evidence for UV protection from carotenoids, so here you go: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9824837/ Yes, I read your entire post.
Sure, I'd love to define it, even though it detracts from my main point that not all carnivores eat red meat and it came across as disingenuous. Care to name drop the Doctors that wanted to spread awareness? it's a noble cause. Let’s assume, for the sake of argument, that the CDC's estimate of 450,000 cases is accurate. With a US population of 330 million, that’s still less than 0.02% of the population. This condition primarily affects people in the Lone Star region, such as myself. Your chances of getting it are extremely low, and if you’re not in that region, it’s virtually zero. This makes it rare. for now. Regarding carotenoid research, I admit it looks interesting, but the benefits appear to be modest and inconsistent. I maintain the opinion that there is currently no evidence to suggest it is necessary. If you are metabolically healthy, your body is generally good at protecting itself. If free radical inflammation is indeed a major factor in UV damage, it’s no wonder many carnivores claim they don’t burn. Consuming large cuts of fresh omega-3 fatty acids daily, avoiding inflammatory ultra-processed carbs, and potentially benefiting from a healthier gut microbiome- all of which is reflected in lower inflammatory markers on blood tests. My own personal blood tests came up with similar results when I was on a strict carnivore diet. Anyway, do with that as you will.
I would love to name drop the emergency docs who put me up to mentioning alpha gal, but they were gob smacked that anyone could say 450,000 cases is rare. They don't want to debate that when, in their hospitals, they're getting patients in anaphylactic shock. They don't want to be told by someone who doesn't work in emergency rooms that it's a nothing burger. But I can drop Adrian Cois's name, the emergency room physician I interviewed and asked to speak at my TEDx conference on why Australians live 7 years longer than Americans (he has worked emergency rooms in both countries). The day I interviewed him he had spent the morning trying to save two different children's lives who had rare heart conditions. U.S. insurance companies had turned down a request by their pediatricians for a diagnostic test, because their conditions were rare - much rarer than alpha gal allergy. He said in Oz those tests would have been approved because they take even rare conditions seriously if they are life threatening. And as you saw in the video, Tom was in full cardiac arrest when he arrived at the hospital with his reaction to alpha gal. Pretty serious.
Wow, thanks! I worked extra hard on this one because I just didn't feel like I could understand many of the comments on my channel so I struggled hard to learn more.
Dr. Bruce Ames died right before the holidays at the age of 95, and just before that he was mobile and mentally acute. I think he knew what he was talking about when it came to longevity and diet. He was an amazing man.
Great vid as always! I did a bit of sleuthing about Chaffee's background too and found this: he claimed to be a practicing physician here in Australia (he commented this on Instagram) - supposedly practises at The Rensburg Medical Clinic in WA when I googled him and he came up on low carb down under. However he is not listed anywhere on the clinic's website, nor can you book any appointments with him: see the rensburg medical clinic website. So it seems to be another lie by him!
I tried every form of carnivore, no matter what I did, I felt like 😪death. Being 75 - 90 % plant-based (subject to seasonality and change) has improved my health so much. Thanks ❤👍Great info about this ongoing debate about meat purists v the rest.
Funny how all these dolts in the comments defending a conman are pretending he has an “MD” when he clearly doesn’t. His HIGHEST educational degree was Bach of Sci, that’s it. There’s ZERO proof of him ever obtaining an MD degree he claims.
Your videos are compelling. Your comments are well considered, clearly and sequentially delivered, and critically researched. You are kind and reasonable, open to being shown otherwise. Thank you for sharing the immense effort it takes to consider, research, and substantiate each claim. I usually have to listen twice to digest all your points! You are a balm in this world of emotionally reactive, side taking, inaccurate one liner bombs. You are a mentor to me!
Another fantastic episode! I'm so glad you address Dr. Chaffee's concerning statements and lack of background details. Also, I loved the shout outs to so many great voices in the data-driven plant based community! ❤
Maybe it is a time to stop addressing him as MD? I am confused he lied only about that particular university and he then really finished MD elsewhere or he did not finish any university?
Chris one of my friends got a heart attack eating a carnivore diet and he still believes that his diet is not a problem,main stream media is trying to get u the doctors are suggesting a Mediterranean diet but he still wont listen, idk what to do now
Support and Love trump food every time. Look up Roseto Effect and "Hearts knit Together" about bunny rabbit petting and heart disease. Love, appropriate touch, and community support are epigenetic (above the physical gene expression) and regardless the method of gathering energy resources (calories, hydration, sunlight, sleep). It is not what goes into the mouth but out of it that defiles you.❤
That was my dad and sister and now many friends, who died of heart attacks - including a close one last week. 😔 In a moment of discouragement, I told Simon Hill I think the food companies won and we lost. But I just focus on the ones who we can love from part way down the funnel of misbelief to restoring their health. We all know some people who do.
I would suggest searching "how to deprogram a conspiracy theorist " on the internet. This appears to be your friends problem, however check if it comes from food intolerances or allergies causing them to become paranoid.
@PlantChompers saying "I think the food companies have won" , is just as bad as the conspiracy theories you are trying to debunk. Food companies literally sell whatever people want to buy, take breakfast cereals you can choose one that's 97% whole grain and dried fruit with maybe 3% sugar or you can choose one that is 30% sugar and most of the rest of ingredients is refined carbohydrates. These options are available in any Western style supermarket. The food companies and supermarkets couldn't care less what you choose , there's no conspiracy they just want you to part with your money on one of their product options.
Thank you for this episode. I really appreciate learning about why folks believe what they believe… you have done an excellent job of exploring that over the last couple of years… it helps us to lead with compassion.
Thank you, for another great episode... I can well imagine the stress that must occur when various nutritional tribes decide you a public enemy number 1 simply because you expect evidence to back up the claims of others. I have had alas numerous arguments with carnivores, where the response, when I ask for evidence that their diet is healthy get them respond that they have been on a Carnivore diet for X amount of time (often 5 years or less) and that they have never felt better... Guys like you Simon and Gil (And Siobhan too for that matter) do a great job of helping us understand the science behind your claims.
As always, a stellar video. You are my go to guy, along with Simon Hill, to clarify the misinformation and hysterical hype that’s so prevalent on RUclips and certain social media sites. Thank you thank you for all you do!
Keep going Chris! You're the only plant channel I watch . . . and watch and watch and watch. Also, please write a book. Your story is too important to be lost!
Hi Chris, thanks for a great video! It was Impeccably researched, well presented, and kind. Your best episodes are the ones that shed light on youtube creators that are off the rails. Sadly, these must take a great deal of energy and don't add to our knowledge of nutrition. Thanks.
I knew what I was dealing with when I heard this Chaffee tidbit early in this clip--"don't talk about studies; it's 'first principles' that matter." First principles without scientific foundation don't mean a damn thing. If they do, we are all doomed. They aren't principles at all, first or otherwise. They are just cherry-picked dogma that make some people a lot of money. And these clips of Chafee wearing scrubs and surgical hats as props are pretty disgusting if he never has practiced as a doc.
Dr Anthony Chaffee is an American medical doctor and Neurosurgical resident who, over a span of 20+ years, has researched the optimal nutrition for human performance and health.
@@jeannie920Imagine spending 20 years studying nutrition but still ending up with a narrative that goes wildly against the totality of evidence, and disrespects the most revered researchers ...it's like being the world's worst detective
I didn't know about seaberry. I asked Google's AI (Gemini) and got this answer. Is it correct? Seaberry (also known as sea buckthorn) does contain a form of vitamin B12, but it is not the active form that humans can use. There have been studies indicating the presence of vitamin B12 in sea buckthorn, with some even suggesting it could be a significant source. However, the form of B12 found in sea buckthorn is not the active form (cyanocobalamin) that humans need. Instead, it is an inactive analogue that does not have the same vitamin activity. Whether or not sea buckthorn can contribute to vitamin B12 intake in humans isstill unclear and needs further research. If you are concerned about your vitamin B12 levels, it's important to consult a doctor or registered dietitian for advice and recommendations.
@@Viva-LongevityDid Gemini provide links to (human generated) studies? Some time ago I asked a trusted AI what are good plant sources of vitamin D. In the list were sunflower seeds. I might have "thought" that the sun in sunflower is literal and so provides vitamin D idk, but I would be as careful with AI as Chaffee as a source of reliable information.
@@Viva-Longevity I would not trust AI, especially when it says cyanocobalamin is the form we need. While cyanocobalamin is the supplement form that is not naturally present anywhere.
@@Viva-Longevity "Isolation and analysis of vitamin B12 from plant samples" 2017 Hippophae rhamnoides was found to be a significant source of vitamin B12. Above 98% of active vitamin B12 was found in Hippophae rhamnoides. "Determination of Vitamin B12 in Sea Buckthorn (Hippophaes rhamnoides)" 2015 Actinorhizal plants, such as Hippophae rhamnoides are symbiotic with actinobacteria Frankia Alni, they are potential hosts for vitamin B12. The method was applied in several plant samples, but significant amounts of vitamin B12 were detected only in Hippophaes rhamnoides (37 μg/ 100 g dry weight).
I used to be a plant chomper, for 14-15 years. I had to stop as it ruined my health physical and mental. I had so many sports injuries that wouldn't heal and my mental health suffered major depression, constantly tired and lethargic. After 14-15 years I decided enough was enough and to start eating meat and fish again, but only white meat chicken and occasionally very red meat. I then started eating eggs which was a game changer. My health massively improved physical injuries healed but I still got them from time to time. I do a lot of sports - running and cycling. I bumped along for about 10 years like this. Then about 4-5 years ago I discovered Keto and started looking into what it entailed as I had still been eating carbs and sugar, bread, pasta, pizza, potatoes, etc up until this point. I had skin issues for many years that just would not heal. They were very itchy and unsightly and I was very conscious of them. They would leave scarring when they finally healed after many months and other lesions would pop up. Doctors didn't have a clue what they were. They were useless frankly. I had biopsies which didn't shed any light with the tests they ran on my excised skin. A waste of time. I knew my skin issues were diet related as the final biopsy I was already Keto and the dermatologist insisted I start eating a lot of wheat again which I was reluctant to do to see if my skin condition got worse and it did which really depressed me. Intermittent fasting 24-48 hours or the 5:2 diet and moving to OMAD was a game changer at the same time as Keto was a game changer. My skin started to clear up with in one month it was largely healed. I have been doing Keto for the last 4.5 - 5 years. Wheat and gluten definitely causes my skin to flare up as I have done several elimination and addition since doing Keto and it's wheat foods. So no bread pasta pasta cookies all that UPF shit any more and also veggie/vegan food which I had been eating years previously which is full of wheat, gluten and other nasty supplements and additives. Then about 2-3 months ago after having heard of the carnivore diet about one year ago and dismissing it, I decided to give it a go. So far I feel so bloody good. I have not been over weight for years but still I am now lean and strong with endless stamina like I am 22 years old again. I am pushing 60. I still only eat OMAD and occasionally IF although not as frequently as when I started Keto around 5 years ago. I've noticed in the last couple of months eating carnivore my muscle mass has increased and although I have done regular calisthenics and lifting weights since starting Keto around 5 years ago, eating carnivore now has only has made me a lot stronger and brought more muscle bulk which is so important as you age as sarcopenia is such a problem. I guess this is because of the nutrient dense nature of meat, of beef and lamb that plants simply cannot match. In the last couple of months I have occasionally continued to eat broccoli because I like the taste and also tomatoes but that is about it on the veggie front. Mostly I eat mainly beef, lamb or pork - steaks, ground, roast or stewed. Occasionally chicken. And eggs 2-3 eggs each day, sardines and mackerel. All the meat I eat is the best quality grass fed finished etc and oily fish wild caught. And I feel absolutely bloody fantastic. I am a different person, a healthy fit, strong, clear thinking person rather than a constantly knackered tired, fatigued person with injuries and brain fog with depression that I used to be when veggie all those years ago in my 30s and 40s when I fell for all that BS demonising meat and eggs as dangerous for long term health. So glad I saw the light. Whilst I don't agree with Chaffees comments that plants are literally trying to kill you, I don't think they are doing you any good. Mind you the glyphosphate sprayed on them might and all the other seriously harmfully fungicides and pesticides might be. The reason why the veggie/vegan diet is pushed so hard is because the huge processed food manufacturers can still make huge profits from making and selling processed garbage UPF to people who falser think meat is bad for your health and will cause all sorts of health conditions from heart attacks to cancer. The governments are the source of this, complicit with most medics, big pharma and the processed food industry. It's BS. The biggest con trick in history. The truth is as Dr Chaffee says meat, red meat is such a rich dense nutrient and protein source which you cannot argue with. Plants are such a low grade source of nutrients and compared to meat and they taste crap. Seriously they taste crap compared to a good beef steak or bacon. They are heaven absolutely heaven to eat compared to plants. If you want to get diabetes then continue to eat plants, wheat and all the UPF made from it. It's your premature funeral. Starch, sugar and carbs are quite literally killers. Millions across of the developed world are now obese and have T2 diabetes not to mention all the other very serious health conditions diabetes brings. It's a scandal between governments, the food manufacturers, most doctors and big pharma as they all have vested interests in that people being ill and remaining ill their whole lives is very profitable. Even government dietary advice from the US AHA and UK NHS is to eat a diet low in fat, plant based, whole grains, starch carb fruits and veg based, to avoid meat. The national diabetes associations also even give out this shit. It is so wrong it is criminal. When you understand the damage a starchy carb and sugar based diet can do to your body causing insulin resistance and T2 diabetes then you can cut them out and reverse the damage it causes. Record levels of T2 diabetes and now dementia T3 diabetes. Reverse this by eating Keto or carnivore diets. if you value your health eating meat, fish and eggs is a necessity. There are NO essential carbs. None.
Will I assume you have a leaky gut based on your gluten sensitivity and skin flare ups. Do you know cow and other animal proteins seep thru your permeable gut & into your bloodstream? Do u really want to get other autoimmune diseases bc your body has to create antibodies to fight dead animal proteins? Meat is so highly acidic and carcinogenic. And by reading your story, you ate a bunch of crap! Eating pizza & sugar then blaming PLANTS 😂 for your health is completely wrong. U may feel better bc your not eating the same junk, you've eliminated bad food, DOESNT MEAN MEAT is the one to praise.
Food allergies, and sensitivities, are rampant in the modern world, and doctors (mostly) suck at diagnosing it. For years I had constant low to moderate joint pain. For me it turned out to be milk protein. A month on the whole 30 had me pain free, and the first pizza had me waking with nasty join pain. It would help if we could do a better job of identifying these sensitivities and supporting people with these food sensitivities. Of course identifying any food additives that might be contributing to this would be a big win, if that pans out.
Even replacing animal protein with less than ideal plant protein like bread can improve ageing markers? I would still recommend staying away from UPF as much as we can though
I've seen/read information on both sides of the veg vs carnivore and I really believe as long as you are eating one or the other or both, but more importantly NOT eating the highly processed crap, seed oils being at the top of my shit list, you are on the right track. Eat real natural foods. Problem is many plants are becoming less and less natural. GMO, pesticides, gases for ripening etc. The same can be said for some meats as well, but to a lesser extent I believe. I personally eat carnivore. Tried all veg and juicing but ultimately never felt satisfied or healthy - always hungry and bloated. It was better than the standard shit diet of "if it feels good eat it" but I feel far far better in every aspect when I am strictly Carnivore. Mostly red meat and fish. Lost my taste for chicken, but is the store bought bird really still a chicken? I don't give a shit what people eat. What does piss me off to no end, is when people complain about all their mysterious health issues, but in no way admit or even think it might have something to do with the highly refined sugary crap they consume hand over fist. Oh no it cant be cupcakes, it must be a magical mystery or genetics. I will say though, argue about the virtues of veggies all you want - you cant deny the renewed health of many many long term carnivores. Where's all the cancer and heart attacks? You can't look at a fast food meal, and blame the meat in the burger for poor health outcomes. Carnivore means meat only. Not meat with fries and ketchup and bread. Another prime example is bbq folks. They eat a very meat heavy diet, and many of them are not slim or healthy looking, but they smother it in sugary sauces, with sugary beans, and corn breads and biscuits. Yet some people equate this to a carnivore diet, or simply use it to point out how bad red meat is. Really? I continuously see carnivores experiencing amazing results. Until I see the dropping like flies from cancer and heart disease... Im going to continue to do what works for me. "Science" ( a seemingly laughable term at this point) can say what it wants, or at least be interpreted as needed by the author or reader, but if it doesn't bear out in real life... Perhaps you could 'debunk' why carnivores aren't dropping like flies. Where's the pile of corpses? Say what you want about Anthony Chaffee - he and his followers are experiencing amazing health. This does not imo conclude that all plant eaters are bad or dying. To each his own. However I dont think we can use 'science'to tell people who have renewed their health to the highest level they've ever known, that its not real and they are actually unhealthy - this study says so.
Thanks. As I mentioned in the episode, I believe the stories of people who have dramatically improved their health on a carnivore diet. But we also have thousands of years of experience, and 100 years of data, which show that it falls far short of a longevity diet. It gets popular about every 70 years and then fades as the long-term effects become known again.
@@Viva-Longevity great can you share with me the data on that? If there's 100 yrs of data and every 70 yrs carnivorous woe pops up but then fades, I'd be really interested to see your data on that. Thanks
@@Viva-Longevity oh and of course the 'long-term effects' - what are those? I assume they are listed in the data. If I really am.putting my health at risk I'd like to know. Previously I felt the whole plant eating thing, which didn't seem to work for me at all, was based on right wing religious theory, and of course to promote processed foods and supplements, but I am open to seeing the actual non-bias scientific data.
I did a series on health influencers and how long they lived. Guys like Blake Donaldson were carnivore 70 years ago and James Salisbury about 140 years ago. It used to be healthier than it is now because some of the meat was wild, there was more variety, they ate more of the animal, and it was before the age of marbling. But even then they had trouble getting to 80, whereas even smokers can get to 100 or more. ruclips.net/video/S8Pm-m87sEc/видео.html
I think the perfect paleo diet must follow the traditional paleo methods of getting food. Meat is an unreliable food source. Hunting is a difficult thing to do without modern weapons. Like you mentioned, the further away from the equator, the less dependent on plants for calories, and the more dependent on aquatic animals, and mammals. It appears to me (from brief reading) that modern hunter-gatherers rely heavily on plants including tubers, and eggs, honey, and small game. Also, modern hunter-gatherers have a fairly short life expectancy, though I do not know how much that is influenced by diet versus other environmental conditions. But what seems clear to me is that today's practice of CAFO raised meat supplying large amounts of calories leads to many of the leading causes of poor health and mortality. I am thriving on a whole food, plant-based diet, and expect to continue on that path.
Quite the contrary, meat was overly abundant and easy to obtain. Hunting is not hard at all and ways of preserving meat for many months are ancient and not even salt is needed, even today in many areas we have an over abundance of preys. "Short life expectancy", i don´t know if all you are doing this on purpose or what, that "short life expectancy" is due to exposition to hard environment conditions, inter human violence, etc. specially during their childhood, and youth years, also pregnancy problems increment that "short life expectancy". Also that calculation is made considering childhood which always has the most elevated mortality rates; even without healthcare once they went through infancy, adolescence and young adulthood they could expect to live healthy lives up to around 70 years old. EDIT I make clear for anyone reading, if you are doing fine with classic diets, vegan, etc. dont do keto or any other hypercarnivore, many of us only do them for our health, if we could we would happily eat "normally".
@@Wen6543 There is an abundance of highly regarded studies that prove conclusively that high animal consumption leads to heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes, and all cause mortality. That's today. The longest-lived and healthiest people on the planet are in blue-zones, where meat consumption is very low. I understand mortality rates are birth-death models, and that our life expectancy increased dramatically when we conquered early childhood death. But 70 is not very old, considering the average in the world is 73, and 77 in the US, and that in blue zones it is as much as a decade longer than that. Those in blue zones are ten times more likely to live to be 100. That's now. The Inuit people in Canada live less than a decade as long as non-indigenous Canadians. My opening comment was meant to suggest that hunting using primitive tools and hunting techniques would result in greater dependence on vegetable matter for most paleo people. Modern hunter-gatherers such as the Hadza in Tanzania eat about 100 grams of fiber a day. You cannot do that without eating a lot of plants, which they do. There is a pretty good article in Scientific American I read a few years ago, that sheds some light on our paleo ancestors' diets. www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-paleo-diet-half-baked-how-hunter-gatherer-really-eat/
@@janerkenbrack3373 I´d love to argue more with you about this subject but this is Chris´s channel, i try to be not so annoying in his home. And even when i am doing an hiper carnivore diet i do believe that he and you have a lot of correct ideas regarding vegan and vegetarianism, but not as much regarding carnivore which still is a mystery specially in the long term, there is no good evidence supporting it neither opposing it. Regards.
@@janerkenbrack3373 There is a newer article (June 2024) titled To Follow the Real Early Human Diet, Eat Everything. In any case, for the greater part of our evolutionary history, our ancestors would have eaten like our great ape and primate cousins but I suppose that fact doesn't help to rationalise an obviously unhealthy diet. Of course, this whole paleo diet marketing claim is based on the appeal to nature fallacy anyway, as well as invented 'facts'.
As an evolution nerd, if he wants to go back to first principles he needs to actually read something like Dawkins. The first principle is that we are gene replication machines. Anything that gets us to reproductive success is valid. The fact that a diet can get you to 30 is all that matters. And it tells you absolutely nothing about whether that diet can get you to 80 without modern healthcare. The funny thing is that he takes the exact opposite stance of what you should do. Modern studies that look at outcomes is what matters. Saying our ancestors ate it because of "evolution" completely misses the only thing evolution cares about. Genes. Evolution is basically done with you after your kids are adults. It absolutely did not design us to be healthy at 90 years old That doesn’t mean it’s not possible. It just means you have to actually look at outcomes and not misguided “first principles” as he calls it. Even though it’s not actually a first principle.
Just going to point out that your reasoning about evolution being done with us once kids are adults is slightly flawed. If grandparents can contribute to their children having more kids and more successfully raising children by sharing skills with their grandkids, then healthy/smart older people still have an influence on the success of their genes. And plenty of studies have shown that kids being around grandparents is a positive thing
Your reasoning would apply to animals that don't have larger social ties, but strong family ties and social hierarchies can perpetuate the influence of the older generation long past their reproductive years.
@@mayhu3282 Wrong, it's about survival of your genes. So if you can contribute to the survival of future generations beyond your immediate offspring, those traits would still be favored by natural selection.
Dr. Chafee says he did sub-internship in Duke and the only way to verify this is to go to Duke’s verification website, fill-out the form and submit “authority to release” form to ask for Dr. Chafee’s record. This form can only be signed by him and no one else can ask this personal information except himself. I started to think now: Chris, did you fake his credentials and signature to verify his education and internship status? Otherwise how did you verify this? Sounds like you (or your imaginary “fact checkers”) committed a serious criminal offense by forging document to access someone’s confidential personal information. Can you elaborate on how you accessed Dr. Chafee’s records? Because I tried to access, this is what Duke says in their own verification website. Help us to understand your “fact checking” process please?
Watch the video. Duke's response makes it clear that I wasn't posing as Chaffee, and they offered an email for more info. You didn't address their response.
Well, carnivore here. For 20 months. It has changed my life (saved it). Type 2 diabetes gone, leaky kidneys, fatty liver, obesity, arthritic inflammation, food addiction…all gone!… i haven’t eaten any plants since the start. No fibre, no constipation, no pain.I feel the best I have for 20 years! I’m 67yr old woman….. Dr Chaffee’s video was the first I saw on this way of eating and I gave it 90 days before I was going to make my decision to continue but after 4 days I knew I wouldn’t go back to my old way of eating (that’s when I stopped taking diabetes medication) I only take 2 of the prescription drugs of the 8 I used to take…Yes, humans can eat plants. It saves us during tough hunting times(meat). I also changed our doberman to meat only and reversed her front elbow dysplasia pain…. So, in MHO, carnivore is the best thing I have ever done for myself…. 😊 my health is all the proof I need which diet is better…. As a Ps… that title “plants are trying to kill you” was what peaked my interest to have a look.
god bless you Chris. I get a headache thinking of the incredible hard work you do to make these amazing episodes. Thank you, thank you, thank you! I've given up nominating THIS ONE is your best. No, this one is your best. There are so many great ones!
In reference to the clip at 26:13: I think that guy is wrong at least by my anecdotal experience. My kid did prefer broccoli to cake. At 1 and at 2 when given cake at birthday anniversary gathering at grandparents' place, the baby chose the plate of lightly cooked broccoli over the cake. Sadly it is not that way now. I truly believe it is due to exposure to a society full of eating crap. Kid is surrounded by it. They buy the crap with their own money.
My wife has a rare condition called gstroparisis, secondary to muscular dystrophy. I am absolutely convinced it is NOT, you are what eat, ITS you are what you can absorb. Even if you can get the proteins broke down properly, you still have to get them into the bowel, and as you age your gut mobility will decline like alll your other muscles. Everyones different. A Childs needs and elderly persons needs are different, i was a big meat eater in my youth then, it was more balanced, now its softer and more veggie, less meat. Yes i agree in the importance of cooking in human development, but again there is a difference? meat requires waiting and cooking is basically reheating, fish is more so getting the gremlins out to get at the iodine ect. Idoine is clearly the main factor in IQ, so populations near the sea would develop quicker due to better intelligence levels. Check the iodine levels in cooked cod.and seaweed.
@@PanSearedRibeye68the point stands , given the option most kids would shun meat and choose candy and donuts. It’s instinctual ;) Kids also love fruit - kinda self defeating argument for a carnivore this one.
@@Viva-Longevity We’re talking about Whole Foods. Not candy and cookies which weren’t around 100,000 years ago. Kids and adults prefer meat because it’s what our digestive systems were designed to process. Kids instinctively shun veggies and gobble up meats and eggs. They know.
I was gaining weight 50 extra pounds, started to lose energy, hip and back pain to point I needed medications. I got blood work a year ago and was prediabetic, beginning of fatty liver, high blood pressure and cholesterol a bit on the high side. Doctor didn't mention diet, drugs were the thing I needed and for the long term. I had had enough!! I started watching Dr Ken Berry, Dr Anthony Chaffee, Dr Berg and a few others, read comments of people going on Keto or Carnivore. decided to change my diet, seed oils, stuff in packages, and grains were the first to go. Now a year later and blood pressure is normal, fatty liver gone, cholesterol normal, and I don't have a B12 deficiency and no pains. I now eat only twice a day, I eat seasonal fruit from my few fruit trees and only in small amounts. I eat veg I love from my garden along with organic, meat, fish and eggs with a sprinkle of cheese. At 69 I feel like I did in my 40s I still struggle with weight so am going to go full Carnivore and fat adapt. Winter is coming and garden and fruit are done for the year. I will introduce fruit and veg next summer when fresh from my garden. If I have a reaction i will eliminate. I say do what is best for you and make choices that make you feel better.
I still think Michael Pollan says it best: Eat food( real food with as little processing as possible), not too much, mostly plants. Diet and health solved!
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I thought I was getting some good advice about diet and nutrition on youtube until your channel popped up in the suggestion. It took more than a month of listening to many of the youtubers you fact check on your channel for it to appear - maybe that was my bubble.
I am month and a half in low carb diet, fasting around 30hours once a week, lost 13kg - I was planning to experiment with carnivore - not any more.
You should include some warning that after watching your, what I would call - popular science journalism channel, many other youtube channels look pathetic and some even like pure product pushers.
Many thanks, this is what the world needs.
Yes, like Dr. Saladino pushing his personal dead animal organ pills. So sick anyone would take that garbage.
I transitioned from keto/carnivore to mostly WFPB and wow! Best decision ever. I hope it does for you as much as it has for me. 😊
@@tarabooartarmy3654 I did not want to answer too early as I was in early stages of trying out vegan diet. I kept some keto habits like no bread, rice, potatoes, pasta... . Although I am not 100% vegan (still hate more to waste food than sticking with vegan if we cook to much of something at home) but all in all I still count week or two between single non vegan meal. Feeling good, still losing weight (another 5kg down since my post - total -18kg) and to my surprise there is so much options what to eat/cook.
LOL
@@MrYurik great to hear! I’m not 100% plant-based either, but I’ve noticed the more plants I eat the better I feel. I also cut way down on carbs. I do eat some, but not as many as I used to. My A1C is much better.
"If plants are trying to kill us, they're doing a poor job," Simon Hill
Yep!
@@Joseph1NJ apparently he us blind to all the obese, metabolically dysfunctional people who got there eating highly processed plant foods predominantly. Animal foods when combined with high glycemic, high fat plant foods just compound the dysfunction. Where do you think most calories are coming from in a fast food meal. 70% of SAD calories come from plants not animals.
You are not eating the more toxic plants. If you did, you were not commenting here!
@@tiitulitii why would anyone knowingly eat something that is toxic?
@@OilCanHarry2U All plants are toxic... It's merely a matter of their level of toxicity, which the same can not be said for meat, as nothing in it is inherently toxic to our human cells.
10 years Paleo - BP 140/90 (yes, it takes time). 18 months WFPB - BP 105/70.
@@stan8926 that is so awesome! 🎉
How was/is your natrium/kalium ratio intake then/now?
I lost 40 lbs in 3 months dropping the high glycemic plants and eating mostly meat, fish, eggs and low glycemic vegs and fruit. I have maintained it 2.7 years now and my bp went from 140/90 to 110/68 for a yearly average.
@@GregariousAntithesisyes, short term gains. His comment just showed you what to expect in the next decade (“it takes time”).
Bottom line is: I’ve seen dozens of centenarians on Mediterranean or wfpb, and zero carnivores over 85.
But hey…. It’s your life.
@@datagroup1911 yet my grand parents lived to mid 90s and my folks are still alive in mid 80s on a typical whole food omnivore diet.
Amazing video! I am always waiting for your new upload because i know how much time and effort you put to do these and the high quality resulted from all that work; the long wait always worth it. Since i discovered your channel i binge watched all your episodes and i am impressive in spite all the bad comments you receive you keep a good spirit and the excellence in your videos.
I am humbled and impressed you took my recommendation about Dan Ariely book, as you said in many of your videos "my heroes are great scientist" i have the same kind of heroes but with some communicators added so when i heard you named Dan´s book i felt like if one of my heroes made a blink on me lol.
Thank you for your work, it's truly inspiring. Hugs and blessings from Argentina
Wow, I'm so glad you posted this! 🙏 I couldn't remember who recommended Dan's book and wanted to reach out and thank them, so THANK YOU!! ♥️ 👏 😎
Dr Ames is nearly 96. And Dr. Keys died two months short of his 101st birthday. Seems like plants are crap at killing us. So going to definitely eat more. 😜
His neighbors see him walking in his neighborhood in Berkeley and say he's doing well.
Ancel Keys was a documented fraud, paid off to promote the flare claim that eating saturated fat and cholesterol is bad for heart health, this clias been proven false many times over.
Why dont you mention his first principle that plants inherently contain toxins as their main defense against being wiped out. Many plants are extremely toxic and can make you sick or even kill you when you eat a small amount. He argues, with evidence that all plants, even the ones we eat regularly, contain natural toxins that are detrimental to our health over time.
😂 However did you come up with that conclusion? And wow. Drank and smoked till 91 fabulous. He probably enjoyed his life too. And that's what it all comes down to. Not science. But enjoying one's own - one - life. 🎉
By the way what's a "5th of booze"? 🤔
@@Viva-Longevity - great channel Chris...appreciate all the effort that you put in here to inform the world.Just one question on diabetes & insulin resistance/fatty liver etc...How do we explain Dr Bernstein's success?
I love your long form videos! Your time and research you put into videos is excellent!
Lovely episode.
For me "You shouldn't be looking at those studies" says it all. When has 'knowing less' been superior to 'knowing more'? Has it ever?
Knowing more can cause biases sometimes. There is no direct correlation between amount of knowledge and wisdom.
@@eugenetswong There is nothing inherently wrong with bias if you are biased towards the truth. And while you can know a lot and not be wise, it’s far more likely to be unwise if you know little.
@@Nicksonian Of course. That doesn't address my main concerns and points, though.
@@eugenetswong No there isn't. But that does not mean by any stretch of the imagination that less knowledge is superior to more. knowledge. Never forget that
**none < less < more < all**
@@BartBVanBockstaele People aren't computers. They can get information overload, and they can easily think that they know all there is for their current decision.
Being a doctor or lawyer in a difficult situation will give you the most information, but it doesn't improve your ability to make decisions. You need somebody, who is not involved, and thus can make clearer decisions.
Oh. Yeah. Let’s say it again: “the nuclear winter of the public trust is a gold rush.” You say you dislike “debunking” and I think I know why you’re saying it… but you’re good at it and it’s needful, especially from folks who can do it with humor, reason, and open-mindedness. Your lack of vitriol and egomania are an incredibly strong currency. Social media algorithms don’t reward integrity. But history does.
Yep. He got me out of the rabbit hole.. I'm not vegan, but cut down to mostly chicken and fish when I do have meat as I'm putting on muscle with exercise and it helps me get there, but I also learned here about heme iron, saturated fat, and also those being much better for the environment than cows or pigs or other red meat. I get about half my protein from plants and get about 140g/day. Takes about 3000kcal a day to maintain weight at my activity level.
100 points for mentioning carotenoids! Appreciate all your hard work 👍
@@DoctorEyeHealth carotenoids are not required. They are antioxidants that some have are beneficial but not necessary.
For 98% of this video, I was under the impression that Chaffee was an MD. I was therefore mystified how he could so cooly make such outrageous claims. Losing 23 lbs while quintupling caloric intake, for example, is clearly impossible, But when the closing moments of your talk revealed that he was not an MD, but an imposter, everything fell into place. What's shocking (but not surprising) is the extent to which media are giving this sociopath such a bully pulpit. Keeping abreast of the truth about nutrition and health in this country is akin to swimming upstream through a river of shit. I'm grateful you and people like you are doing it. I couldn't. Thank you.
Makes you wonder WHY Chaffee is being promoted so heavily on social media, as animal ag is struggling to compete against the plantbased wave...😊
He is an MD. he's doing his neurosurgical residency in Perth
Within the first 3 minutes, Chris verifies that Dr Chaffee earned an MD from the Royal College of Surgeons
...your diet is hurting you
Watch all the way through, he only reported what Chafagee claim his qualifications are, at the end is his realty, 4 weeks at one college.
Do keep up boys.
I was half-way down the Nina Teicholz inspired nutritional ideology funnel hole before finding Plant Chompers. As time went on, I found that the arguments and evidence presented by Chris/Plant Chompers and others like him to be more compelling than those of Teicholz and others who espouse similar "anti-establishment" claims as she does about meat, saturated fat, seed oils, etc.
I was too! I bought her book, listened to all of the carnivore people and was so impressed by the stories by commenters who had such miraculous healing from their carnivore diets. I went on the carnivore diet, and also did a very strict keto diet and felt **terrible** then I found Plant Chompers, Simon Hill, Gil Carvalho and the Physionic channel and got my senses back! WFPB now, and my energy (61 years old) and a lot of health markers have moved all up for the better! I love Chris' scientific, careful approach! Totally changed my mind.
I have carefully watched every Chris video. They are well-made and dense with info , but I'm still carnivore. His problem is that he worships authority. He thinks a science degree confers god-like powers. But researchers, like influencers, are just humans, fallible and subject to political agendas. Gil Carvallo? Simon Hill? They are not credible people to me. I watch all their stuff and am not persuaded.
The Beef industry is a big fan of hers, at least...
Aside from this (Plant Chompers) channel, here are some other sources I've found helpful, should you be interested:
www.youtube.com/@TheProofWithSimonHill
www.youtube.com/@NutritionMadeSimple
www.youtube.com/@NourishedByScience
www.youtube.com/@PrimitiveNutrition
Sigma Nutrition (search the web)
I do not follow a vegan or vegetarian diet, but I also don't follow a ketogenic, carnivore, or other low-carb diet. The information from Chris (Plant Chompers) and the above sources have helped me quite a lot to clear up some of the seemingly-conflicting opinions on some topics.
Aside from this channel, here are some others I've found helpful:
* TheProofWithSimonHill
* NutritionMadeSimple
* NourishedByScience
* PrimitiveNutrition (Channel name is "Plant Positive")
* Sigma Nutrition (search the web)
I do not follow a vegan or vegetarian diet, but I also don't follow a ketogenic, carnivore, or other low-carb diet. The information from Chris and the above sources have helped me quite a lot to clear up some of the seemingly-conflicting opinions on some topics.
Chris, Thanks for highlighting B12 importance. Having B12 deficiency undetected for years, I attributed the symptoms of greater fatigue, degrading vision, slower recall, irritability as natural aging. And some of it was aging. Regardless of diet, full blood tests and good medical advice can change the quality of a person's life.
Your tireless work and dedication is amazing!
What did you do about the b12 deficiency?
@@gmw3083 cianocobalamin is the best choice.
Wonderful video. I had to stop it so many times to jot down the references of the books you mention. And the final straw about Chaffee's resume was pure genius. I watched his entire debate with Nagra, and he was really a sorry sight. Keep up the good work!
Chaffee is starting to sue. Plant Chompers should speak with their lawyers.
@@stateofhead5262 Sue about what exactly?
@@mayhu3282 Folks questioning his credentials.
@@stateofhead5262 He just has to be clear about them, and not use credentials he apparently doesn't have. Easy.
@@mayhu3282 I’m sure he is suing over credentials he does not have. I don’t eat popcorn but this is going to be fun to watch.
I’m not a vegan, but I love nutritional science. That being said, I watched that debate when it came out and the vegan SMOKED Anthony in that debate lol
Chaffee: "Eating plants will kill you"
Also Chaffee: *Injects anabolic steroids*
If you really think Dr. Chaffee uses exogenous steroids, that probably says more about you than him.
@@biodieseler1 lol what does that mean? It's certainty not out of the realm of possibility and it's clear he uses his physique to pretend that eating all meat is the key to looking that way.
Would not surprise me if he is using something, maybe TRT.
@@69camaro19 He doesn't need to. Even if the carnivore diet is lacking in things like folate (but not the other nonsense that is mentioned here), it is exceptional at bringing testosterone levels back to youthful levels.
@@biodieseler1 Bullshit
I love your videos! Please keep them coming! I always share your content with friends and colleagues interested in healthy eating. It would be fantastic if you could do an episode with your wife where you both cook some of your family's favorite recipes. Thank you!
Just to add to my latest comment lost in the wilderness of comment section: I love your content. It is to the point and backed up with evidence. Little edits you have are making it more relaxed, like your wife interjecting with her scream for help :D. Amazing editing. However, there is something about the way you deliver the story that draws me in. It is like a river flowing. Wish I had professors like you; I would have been able to actually listen to them without my mind wondering into a great vastness of space. Thank you for doing this.
Thank you so much!
'We shouldn't be going on studies, we should be going on first principles...' probably isn't but feels like the most unscientific thing I've ever heard.
It's not, that how you understand the appropriate domain and scope of any given scientific work. He is correct. If the studies fundamentally lack what's needed then we dismiss them on that basis. Just because a 'scientist' did something doesn't mean it's useful, relevant or right.
@@isma3il2005 The point is, how do you establish 'first principles'? He's got his own idea of what those are, but he needs a strong evidentiary basis if he hopes to establish commonality on that. But worse, having said we shouldn't 'be looking at studies, as the video goes on to show, he relies on evidence from studies himself to make his argument, some of which he misrepresents to try to prove the exact opposite of what it shows.
@@JohnMoseley That depends a lot on the particular point that is being made.
For example, if someone accepts the validity of the majority of studies available, its on them to reconcile studies that seem to contradict their hypothesis, but the opponent of such a position doesn't have to accept or dismiss the studies to demand that the other person be consistent in their beliefs.
So he might not believe the studies, but those who do believe them HAVE to make their position internally consistent.
@@isma3il2005 Just being 'consistent in beliefs' is nothing if the beliefs aren't backed up by strong evidence, but anyway, as I say, he's not consistent in his belief that we should ignore studies. Of course the studies should be scrutinised, but he's not even doing that. In fact, he's not even reading all the ones he cites properly.
Since I posted this, I've learned that the economist, Mises, argued for deduction from first principles. So the idea sort of has more academic credentials than I knew, except that economics is not, in the sense of being able to confer certainty even in limited ways, a science, and anyway, Mises' thought was what led to neo-liberalism, which has had very harmful effects and, in parallel with the carnivore diet arguments, has been driven business interests that have skated over the fallacies.
Thank you for always giving us "the rest of the story"!
Considering that Chaffee has a bachelor degree in Medicine, Surgery and Obstetrics, it seems you "the rest of the story" is BS. Look it up yourself instead of what this idiot is telling you. National University of Ireland, Ireland, 2013. His registration number is MED0002263360.
Chris is like the Paul Harvey of nutrition
Carotenoids in seafood (Astaxanthin/Echinenone/Zeaxanthin/Canthaxanthin/Beta-Doradexanthins/Lutein/Tunaxanthin/Carotene)
All he has given us is the so called "rest of the story"! He has only mentioned is passing that some people have allergies to meat and seafood and hardly mentioned allergies to plants. In fact 99.9% of the video is to do about anything other than the title of the video.
When our friends come over and see that stack of Women's World magazines that Chris bought, I wonder what they must think about where we get our info! 🙃
😂😂😂
Thanks for your cameo in this video, Toni! You always make me smile 😊
Just tell them the magazines belong to Chris' "sister": ruclips.net/video/ADGWIKG4RVQ/видео.html 😄
I love when you make an appearance on the videos ❤️
@@julie2x Thanks so much! I try to be as helpful as possible.
You are the Sherlock Holmes of dietary misinformation
When they go after people like they're going after DR Anthony Chaffee like this, you just KNOW they're running scared of their lies being exposed. But you enjoy your Kelloggs, and your plant-based 'burger'.
No he is not. Fiber is razors for our guts. Carnivore reverses all brainfog. All leaky gut. Joint pains. And chronic conditions.
Or at least the James Randi
The only reason you're swayed by TikTok influencers is that they cater to what you already want to hear, while he's challenging you with the truth.
See drchaffeemd....hes smart n oh so hot. Results visible.
Another fantastic video. One of my heros is Dr. John McDougall and as I was watching the video I could hear him saying, “people love to hear good news about their bad habits.” I would add that when listening to this good news they could not care less about the credentials of that news source. I’m reminded about the 1st time I read the China Study. It was laying around at a friend’s house. I told her I was surprised she read the book and was still eating steaks. She said it has been debunked by reputable scientists and Dr Campbell cherry picked the data. I was questioning my whole diet until I actually read the “reputable” “science”. Needless to say my faith in actual science was restored, but to this day she thinks I’m a lunatic. I wear that moniker with honor.
Dr. McDougall told people good news about their bad habits that they did not have to do much exercise and just to eat a mostly 90% starch based diet of potatoes, rice and corn, 3 foods that are not even listed in the Jewish or Christian bible for humans to eat. So McDougall has a higher rank and status than the bible?
@@Jeffs60 potatoes and sweetcorn originally came from the Americas and rice from the Far East. Naturally they were unknown to the Middle Eastern 'lying pen of the scribes' who, thousands of years ago, wrote the various books that make up the bible.
Keep up the good work Chris. My wife and I enjoy your videos immensely. Your skill at forensically debunking carnivore diet advocates is incredible plus you do it in such an utterly lovely and polite way, keeping the debate centred on fact and not sensationalism.
Much love to you from Sussex, UK.
Plants are both food and medicine: "A full 40 percent of the drugs behind the pharmacist's counter in the Western world are derived from plants that people have used for centuries, including the top 20 best selling prescription drugs in the United States today." USDA Forest Service.
And I think many of these plants are in the quickly vanishing rain forests.
Wrong, plants are drugs or supplements, or used to make food addicting!
Thanks for deleting another comment.
Don't most drugs behind the pharmacists counter come with a whole ss List of side effects as well? 😂😂 baaaaad pro example..
@@PrinzessKennYbecause these drugs are up to 1000x more potent than their natural-plant sourced counterparts.
I agree with you that many carnivore and low-carbers would be helped immensely by Dr. Will Bulsiewicz's advice on diet.
Which bits of advice? I'm not familiar with him.
He talks about how to introduce fiber slowly in his book Fiber Fueled.
@@biodieseler1 More than just "bits" of advice, but his whole approach. He's a gastroenterologist who helps people determine which foods may be troubling them, and how to slowly increase the foods they're able to consume, for optimum health. His books "Fiber Fueled" and "The Fiber Fueled Cookbook" both contain strategies as well as recipes, and detailed (but not difficult) information about what may be causing various types of gastrointestinal distress. Chapter 5 of the cookbook ("Hope for Histamine Intolerance") alone is worth the price of the book.
@@migueldavidramos How would it help them if they are not suffering from "lack of fiber" syndrome and doing very well?
@@thekword22 This is answered in the video.
Good point about people with all diet types being deficient in some nutrients. I knew a lady who ate meat consistently and her doctor told her she was too low in Vitamin D. The deficiences happen in all of us, potentially.
Probably because she wasn't getting enough sunlight
Just about everybody is vitamin d deficient at different levels. I guarantee you are. You primarily get it from the sun. Geo location of the patient plays a bigger role than diet. Some fish is very high in vit d but our body struggles to absorb it. If you look at the Inuits in alaska they eat primarily seafood yet all are vit d deficient. Like everyone that lives in those climates. Get more sun!
I dream of a world where all people are as rational and do as much research and look for evidence before making a statement as you, Chris.
we live in that world. the problem is all the extremely clever mis- and disinformation and in general, information hazards.
you should hope for a world where information flow is crippled! otherwise its analysis paralysis...
Fiber is razors for our guts. Carnivore reverses all brainfog. All leaky gut. Joint pains. And chronic conditions.
He did not receive an MD from the Royal College of Surgeons. He received an MBBS - which is a lower bar to clear. He’s also not a neurosurgery resident. The guy is a total fraud.
I don't know about his creds, but something seems fishy.
I love Dr. Chaffee!
@@carolinemarie44he loves you too. You make him money
😂😂😂
Y'all are so stupid and don't want to learn anything. Close your eyes & ears, go eat all the sugar, carbs and plants and leave the meat for me & mine. 😂🎉
@@carolinemarie44 My condolences.
Thanks for doing this Chris, such an important video to do. I was feeling like one of your videos was going to pop up, and here it is; it always makes my day when one of your videos comes up....I'll comment again when I finish watching this later
What an impressive breakdown. Appreciate the detail and story arc Chris 🙏🏼
Anthony Chaffee does not appear to be a registered doctor.
By law all doctors in Ireland have to register with the Medical Council in order to practise. I see from your excellent video that Anthony Chaffee claims to have studied to become a doctor at the prestigious Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland between 2009 and 2013. (35:48 minutes).
This is easy to check as it is a public record; just Google - Medical Council Ireland public records and put in his name. My search comes up with: 'No records could be found'. I have emailed the Medical Council here to check the validity of his claims and will keep you posted. My own doctor comes up immediately in great detail with just a surname.
By the way, his claims to be an Irish Rugby National Champion thing is a laughable crock too. It's a team sport: there is no such thing as 'Irish National Rugby Champion'.
This guy is pretty special alright - but for very different reasons.
He’s a registered doctor here in Perth Australia. Last time I checked, Australian doctors are still doctors. Do more thorough research before slandering someone with false claims. He also has his own practice specialising in metabolic health, and studying to be a neurosurgeon. What do you do for work if you don’t mind me asking?
He is a practicing brain surgeon, maybe if you were not eating a plant base diet you would have the intelligence to do more research before looking like a complete idiot and uneducated fool
@@s-jak6662 a loyal Chaffee disciple emerges 😂
@@nickgregoris keep succeeding in life and you may one day acquire your very own disciples too
Thank you Chris. You fill a massive accountability void!!! Please keep it going.
What our ancient ancestors ate only tells us how to live long enough to pass on our genes. Humans today have a much wider selection of food choices than our hunter-gatherering predecessors. Today, we tend to live a lot longer than our ancient ancestors did. Populations today who eat mostly animals tend to have a very short lifespan compared to their fellow countrymen.
@someguy2135 so true that. Had a friend who worked in an inuit village on an island in AK. The oldest person was on deaths door at 70. They die from strokes. They exist almost entirely on meat and the only green is plucked from tundra and preserved in seal blubber. And some carnivore channels who talk a big story have zero idea of or are in denial of their actual plight.
@@janefreeman995- Inuit live in a very harsh climate. That takes its toll as well. Look into Macao, Hong Kong and other countries that have the highest meat ratios per year (Spoiler alert: they have the longest life expectancies).
@@evad8262 Admittedly just a quick google search, but that says average life expectancy in Macao is 85. Not bad, but studies have repeatedly shown that the so-called 'blue zones' have the highest life average expectancy and the largest numbers of centenarians. The diets there were mostly plant-based and, in terms of animal protein, often included more fish than meat. But the key seems to have been a lot of fruit and veg, especially brassicas, and beans.
@@JohnMoseley - I think it is simple. We are made of protein.
As for energy we can use either fat (ketones) or carbs (glucose). As long as the body gets all the nutrition it needs, it will stay healthy.
Like said in the video: in cold climate more fat will be used. In hot climate more carbs will be used.
Look how many ex-vegans/vegetarians are bow healing on carnivore. How many do you find transitioning the other way? (from carnivore/keto to vegan?)
It is not about ideology/principles. It is about having a healthy body and mind.
When you travel around asia/countryside- they eat anything to get enough protein. Fish, Eggs (many cannot afford meat), insects, rats, cats, gekos, any small animal, bird. It is instinkt. They have protein hunger and try to meet it.
Look into Hadza - they have a high diversity considering foo. More than 600 different food sources per year. Out of those are >500 animals (different birds etc.).
So when you read about high diversity, look further what they mean by it.
ancestors lived a long time, but not only the ones from the times before we went into the savanna and hostile environments.
in modern times we only live longer with artificial intervention like drugs, surgeries and so on.
if you want to compare you have to do it on equal basis.
And thank you Chris for introducing me (and many others) to Simon Hill
Hugely important material. Thank you once again Chris for taking the time and making such painstaking efforts. We all owe you a very great deal.
"First principles" is an example of what is known is logic as a "thought-terminating cliche." They get to say that and just ignore the ACTUAL data.
Don't forget the data which is least in doubt: your own experience. Try various diets for a month or two and observe how you feel. That's just what people have been doing: not ignoring the actual data of their own experience. How they feel mentally and physically and whether they see their diabetes, auto-immune diseases ailments of various kinds disappear. That's exactly why this diet has been taking of and gaining steam. Exactly because people do not ignore the actual data.
I do think first principles thinking is very important and a good way to avoid group-think and false beliefs generally. One of the ways Chaffee applies it is by relying on human evolution. He takes it as a truism or axiom that the diet on which a species evolved is the optimal diet for it because the species literally adapted / optimized over millions of years to be able to thrive on that particular diet. Then it comes down to studying paleo-anthropology, archaeology and other fields which shed light on what humans and pre-human ancestors have been eating the last couple millions of years. Comparative anatomy can provide corroborating evidence as well and maybe human bio-chemistry and other fields too.
@@carlwatts1230 Yes of course, f.p. is a great starting point, on which to ask questions. But never to be used as a crutch to dismiss evidence.
@peter5.056 If you want to go back to first principles what about thermodynamics. Like you cannot thermodynamically loose weight and increase calories.
@@sadface7457 Metabolic rate is not a Constant of the Universe. You're assuming that in your claim, aren't you?
It is indeed biologically possible and also thermodynamically possible in that context to increase calories and lose weight.
Humans aren't closed systems.
Similarly it is biologically possible and thermodynamically possible in that context to reduce calory intake and gain weight.
I'd suggest not ignoring endocrinology and bio-chemistry in general when making statements like you did here. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing...
@@sadface7457 You obviously can. When people start low carb diets, they usually lose a lot of water weight in days (multiple kilograms)
Great video!
I think it's worth mentioning that there are plant sources of B12 but they're just not practical.
Nori is the best candidate as 30g of it cover your daily requirements, but that's a lot of nori. One study looked at a few kids in Japan who grew up on a vegan diet unsupplemented and had no deficiencies.
Love your work, Chris and appreciate your extensive research and validation of underlying sources! I make a concerted effort to view your content within hours of upload.
Another superb presentation, Chris. It's nice to see you and Toni again.
I'm very sorry for the passing of your wonderful friend, Matt Silverman. May he rest in peace.
Interesting how they say all plants are toxic, yet most organisms on Earth are herbivores.
Herbivores eat mostly grass and leaves which are definitely less toxic than vegetables and other plant products. Humans aren't herbivores anyway so your point is mute...
Plants, fungi, bacteria, and arthropods make up most of the biomass on earth. Herbivores are a tiny fraction of species.
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So how am I still alive at 61. And stronger than I was at 35. The last time I ate any meat. You meat industry agents aren't going to fool any smart people. Only low IQ fools.
Thanks so much for keeping me thinking, causing me to re-evaluate how I talk about diet with those who don't agree with me. Even better is the constant surprise that the best advice comes back to the blue zone ways of living - and how even though I know that, I push back on some of it without really being aware of it. Great to watch this and remember to make better choices, even when I think I understand. Appreciate all your hard work posting.
Thank you so much for making these videos based on science and fact! Your videos helped me transition from a meat-heavy keto diet to a mostly whole food plant based diet.
2 years keto: cholesterol 368, A1c 5.8, BP 136/76
3 months plant based: cholesterol 138, A1c 5.2, BP 102/57
I’m also starting to enjoy running which I avoided before because I hated it so much. Plants for the win! Seems like meat is trying to kill us, not plants.
WOW!! 👏 💪 🎉 Very impressive improvements. Congratulations.
Definitely can identify with the B12 issue. Several years ago before going plant based I became so B12 deficient I had to get injections, then supplements. Became anemic too. Now as a plant eater I continue to take my
Chris, thank you for doing what you're doing! Your dedication to science and our best estimation of the truth is something I try and will keep trying to emulate. I can only imagine how tiring it must be for you to keep at it, especially with all the vitriol that the various camps spew at one another (and at you).
If it means anything, you have saved me from the funnel of disbelief. A few years ago, I was very much blindly following certain schools of thought regarding the "superiority" of the carnivore and ketogenic diets over the vegan and Mediterranean diets. Fortunately, the RUclips algorithm somehow recommended me one of your videos, and I began my slow climb out of the funnel. It was certainly a frustrating and difficult climb, but you made it easier by presenting the evidence, arguments, and counter-arguments with such poise and professionalism. From the opposite side of the globe and from the bottom of my heart, I thank you.
I almost never leave comments on RUclips videos, but I think this is but a simple way I can return the favour - hopefully the RUclips algorithm will work its magic for others as it did for me!
The B12 thing is part of what pushed me *towards* plant-based eating. At a physical a few years ago when I was still eating meat daily, I came back B12 deficient.
I began a b-vitamin supplement as a daily meat eater. So I thought, if I’m going to be supplementing B12, why not go more plant-based?
B12 numbers have been within normal limits ever since and my meat consumption is way reduced.
@@amrass08 Vitamin B12 is only in meat if you need to take a supplement you obviously have an absorption problem. But what were your symptoms eating meat. And are you eating other things that cause that problem?
Your vegetables were blocking the absorption of B12.
So right… celiac, SIBO, other gastrointestinal issues, lupus, pernicious anemia, etc.
Drinking too much water can do this as well. Too much caffeine can deplete all b vitamins…. They are water soluble.
@@Damcarnivore It's also in supplements and some plant-based foods (look it up!). But supplements are cheap, easy to take and minimize the risk of a deficiency. Depending on where you get your meat there's a good chance you're eating animals that have got their b12 through supplements too.
@@jamesfagan136 come on even vegan sites admit you don’t get b12 from plants that’s why 100 veganism didn’t exist until after 1947 when it was first used
Thanks so much for doing this and such a beautiful job taking it in so many directions. Gold as usual!
Chaffee is the worst of the worst in misrepresenting data or sometimes straight up making up studies that can't be searched in his speeches.
That's why chompers choose him instead of high credential specialists, they do exist that are carnivore/keto.
@@moestietabarnakthey would still be fools if they chose low carb/carnivore
@@moestietabarnak Can you name the carnivore ones please?
Such as?
@@Ezramicon His source on the naturally occurring plant pesticides he cites for plants trying to kill us even states that the concentration and metabolism of the compounds is likely irrelevant in typical dietary patterns. His citation of his textbook saying the amounts of carcinogens in plants, that's basically nowhere to be found and most searches yield results on the anticarcinogenic effects of phytochemicals. He references some Swedish (i think that's correct, but it's a Scandinavian country) study in the speech that was referenced in this video about how eliminating plants caused some beneficial effects in the subjects, and when i searched for it no results came up and he didn't specify the title, authors, or date. His logic is also completely idiotic, as he says there is a species specific diet that animals adapted to eat by figuring out what plants they can eat safely, yet humans have done the exact same thing. Then he claims the epidemiological studies on the cancer rates in regards to plant consumption should be ignored, yet even when considering healthy user bias and whatnot it's pretty obvious that the plants weren't contributing to harm.
Genuinely your videos are incredible, I'm quite young and i used to be far more aggressive towards others when it came to misinformation regarding any science illiteracy. However, after watching your (and Gil's) effective communication of nutrition without trying to create polarization, I've forever been far more patient when explaining ideas to people that they don't understand. For that I thank you, I watch every one of your videos and for the time being I will continue!
Hi Chris. As your friend, I have a sincere question: you mention you thought Anthony’s social media “ran circles around you” and that he’d likely be unwilling to debate. Does that mean you’d be willing to debate him, provided a neutral host? You’re well aware I disagree with each on you on certain matters, and don’t mean this as a set-up on any sort… but I am interested in what would transpire if you two sat down. If I could get Anthony to accept, would you be game. Maybe our mutual mild-mannered friend Dave could host?
Sure, I'd be game.
@@Viva-Longevity You rock. I'll inquire. Dave a suitable host? Other ideas? How would you prefer to do it? Free form? Pre-determined debate questions?
Free form is fine. I'm cool with Dave or you. I'm a little bit crushed trying to get TEDx Boston Longevity organized for October 1st. I interview Ginger Hislop, who just got her master's degree from Stanford at 105, topic never stop learning, next week in Yakima, Washington, and I leave for Africa with fam for 3 weeks July 24th. But free second half of August, first half September.
@@Viva-LongevityAnother overseas family holiday, Chris? What happened to your earth science background and climate change concern for our planet and all its inhabitants? Hypocrisy?
@@GlennMarshallnz Those rules don’t apply to Chris, he’s asking all of us to eat vegetables to save the earth so that he can fly overseas.
The idea that we are somehow carnivores by nature has always boggled me, when even our basic physiology defies that. Even the fact that carbohydrates are the metabolically preferred and better source of energy compared to protein and fat should be a clear indicator what we should be eating as species, and by logical extension, being proclaimed ''omnivores'', we don't have a need for animal sourced protein and fats whatsoever, unlike ''true'' omnivores in the wild who do need to consume animal flesh and only consume plants as an addition. How is it logical to assume protein and fat, like that of meat, etc. are better when the body literally needs to put a lot more time and effort in its utilization for energy.
Say that you don't understand human biochemistry, anatomy and history without saying that you don't understand human biochemistry, anatomy and history.
The classification of omnivore is based by behavior, not only physiology. And physiologically we utilize animal proteins much more efficiently than plants, this is consistently verified. A varied nonrestrictive is what is best. We're metabolically adaptable and can basically eat whatever we want.
@@VegetaPrinceOfSaiyans ''And physiologically we utilize animal proteins much more efficiently than plants,''...no we don't. Such a claim is not supported scientifically. There is no need for animal sourced food whatsoever.
@@polibm6510 Ah yes, the ignorant, uneducated trolls and potential carnivore nonsense supporters have arrived. As amusing as you bunch are, unless you have anything of scientific substance to offer, i'm not particularly interested in wasting time at this moment.
My wording is weird there. Animal proteins are more bioavailable is what i mean. This is verified in multiple papers. You would just need to eat more protein from plants. @@Kristers_K
My hat is off to you sir. I only wish I could shake your hand for all the hard work that you do. Best videos on dispelling diet bs.
Love your videos. One comment: there was background music during the “misbelief” section and it made it more difficult to understand you. I hadn’t noticed that in previous videos. FYI.
Your videos are great. Thanks for all the hard work you do putting them together.
Your channel deserves millions of followers. Every time, every video is made with amazing thought to detail and determination to truth.
I would love to see a video on the making of these videos, Im always impatient for the next one, while at the same time I always have to remind myself that it has to be painstakingly time consuming and a lot of work to do them, I mean just the sheere amount of books we get presented with it's mindblowing, not to mention the depth of the arguments 🤯
@ivantasev7678 Thank you. 🙏 It's not the path to RUclips stardom but I feel like RUclips doesn't need more content at this point, it needs better content. Obviously RUclips and viewers disagree. 😅
@@Viva-Longevity So true Chris. The medical info people are spewing on YT is outrageous and getting worse..."Eat this fruit to cleanse your...pancreas, ... liver,...kidney, whatever in 3 days...blah blah blah... and on and on it goes...and people watch and believe them. Pretty sad stuff being put out there.
Especially trees. Bastards can grow anywhere they want, but decide to grow along the road
"A tick bite could be dangerous to carnivores." OH NO, not a tick bite!! You can still be a carnivore without eating red meat, you goof. I see that you're trying to frame it as if you’re concerned for people on the carnivore diet, but this affliction is so RARE-you’re more likely to get E. coli from your salad. Also, I absolutely love the bit about carotenoids. It's probably the wildest and most unscientific thing you said in the entire video. Did you bring this up simply because people on the carnivore diet claim they don't burn as easily, and this is your way of trying to discredit anecdotal evidence? I personally would rather know WHY people are making these claims instead of just dismissing them because you heard that carotenoids may or may not help protect us from UV damage, and there’s not a significant source of them in meat.
Anyway, there is clearly evidence supporting the idea that a carnivore diet can be UV protective, but the science is speculative. In case you didn’t know, speculative doesn’t mean untrue-it means we don’t fully understand why this might be. One speculation is that meats are rich in antioxidants such as vitamin E and Coenzyme Q10, which can help protect the skin from oxidative stress. There are many other speculations, but my personal experience with the carnivore diet proved to me that this is indeed a real thing. I’m probably the best example because I went from being sickly pale (almost translucent) to "wow, you’re human now?" I was never able to tan before I tried this diet. I would turn red, blister, and peel. (Quick note: I don't think this is a superpower-I just think eating this way puts us back to a metabolic norm, meaning I wasn’t supposed to be burning as easily as I was, and now I’m back to normal.)
To anyone who reads this rant, I encourage you to put your emotional bias aside and actually look into the success stories and new research coming out around the carnivore diet. I’m not saying a vegan diet is bad; it just wasn’t ideal for me personally. The carnivore diet is not your enemy. It took me a while to understand this too, and almost every carnivore will tell you it was a wake-up call for them, not something they just started doing for fun."
With all due respect, wasn't your response all emotion with no evidence?
@@Viva-Longevity Didn't read the whole thing? Nah, I’m kidding-I won’t deflect like you did to me in a previous comment when I was asking honest questions. I admit I used some emotion to convey facts along with some anecdotal evidence. If you had read and fully understood what I was saying, you wouldn’t have asked that. So, here’s the thing: It’s a fact that Alpha-gal syndrome is rare. It’s also a fact that you can maintain a carnivore diet even with Alpha-gal syndrome. And it’s a fact that there is no solid evidence proving carotenoids protect humans from UV damage-there isn’t even any anecdotal evidence that suggests this. If one day there is evidence to back this claim, I’d be happy to hear it. I want nothing more than for humanity to flourish, and it’s quite possible that pointing fingers without fully understanding why we’re pointing them will lead us down the wrong path.
Can you define rare? The CDC estimated last year that up to 450,000 people may have it and it's growing quickly. That's why some emergency room docs in the south asked me to raise the flag.
www.cbsnews.com/news/alpha-gal-red-meat-allergy-lone-star-tick-bites-cdc/
You didn't cite evidence for UV protection from carotenoids, so here you go:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9824837/
Yes, I read your entire post.
Sure, I'd love to define it, even though it detracts from my main point that not all carnivores eat red meat and it came across as disingenuous. Care to name drop the Doctors that wanted to spread awareness? it's a noble cause.
Let’s assume, for the sake of argument, that the CDC's estimate of 450,000 cases is accurate. With a US population of 330 million, that’s still less than 0.02% of the population. This condition primarily affects people in the Lone Star region, such as myself. Your chances of getting it are extremely low, and if you’re not in that region, it’s virtually zero. This makes it rare. for now.
Regarding carotenoid research, I admit it looks interesting, but the benefits appear to be modest and inconsistent. I maintain the opinion that there is currently no evidence to suggest it is necessary. If you are metabolically healthy, your body is generally good at protecting itself. If free radical inflammation is indeed a major factor in UV damage, it’s no wonder many carnivores claim they don’t burn. Consuming large cuts of fresh omega-3 fatty acids daily, avoiding inflammatory ultra-processed carbs, and potentially benefiting from a healthier gut microbiome- all of which is reflected in lower inflammatory markers on blood tests. My own personal blood tests came up with similar results when I was on a strict carnivore diet. Anyway, do with that as you will.
I would love to name drop the emergency docs who put me up to mentioning alpha gal, but they were gob smacked that anyone could say 450,000 cases is rare. They don't want to debate that when, in their hospitals, they're getting patients in anaphylactic shock. They don't want to be told by someone who doesn't work in emergency rooms that it's a nothing burger.
But I can drop Adrian Cois's name, the emergency room physician I interviewed and asked to speak at my TEDx conference on why Australians live 7 years longer than Americans (he has worked emergency rooms in both countries).
The day I interviewed him he had spent the morning trying to save two different children's lives who had rare heart conditions. U.S. insurance companies had turned down a request by their pediatricians for a diagnostic test, because their conditions were rare - much rarer than alpha gal allergy.
He said in Oz those tests would have been approved because they take even rare conditions seriously if they are life threatening. And as you saw in the video, Tom was in full cardiac arrest when he arrived at the hospital with his reaction to alpha gal. Pretty serious.
Chris, I think I may have listened to all your episodes. This is one of your top best! Excellent.
Wow, thanks! I worked extra hard on this one because I just didn't feel like I could understand many of the comments on my channel so I struggled hard to learn more.
Your sincerity and compassion for others with opposing views is inspiring.
Dr. Bruce Ames died right before the holidays at the age of 95, and just before that he was mobile and mentally acute. I think he knew what he was talking about when it came to longevity and diet. He was an amazing man.
I was getting set to interview him. 😔 I guess he had a hard fall and couldn't recover?
Thank you for the good work you do! It’s not easy to find a kind, caring voice of sanity
Great vid as always! I did a bit of sleuthing about Chaffee's background too and found this: he claimed to be a practicing physician here in Australia (he commented this on Instagram) - supposedly practises at The Rensburg Medical Clinic in WA when I googled him and he came up on low carb down under.
However he is not listed anywhere on the clinic's website, nor can you book any appointments with him: see the rensburg medical clinic website.
So it seems to be another lie by him!
I tried every form of carnivore, no matter what I did, I felt like 😪death. Being 75 - 90 % plant-based (subject to seasonality and change) has improved my health so much. Thanks ❤👍Great info about this ongoing debate about meat purists v the rest.
No, you didn't.
"Every form"? So what did you eat and for how long?
In order to avoid unwanted consequences it is better to give your body some weeks to adapt: increase meat, decrease plant intake slowly.
The diet world is full of shills and con men and profiteers, and this Chaffee character seems to be one of them. Keep up the outstanding work.
Based on what?
@@Ezramicon what comes out of his mouth. have you not watch the video. he is misquoting studies all the time. it does nto say what he says it does.
Funny how all these dolts in the comments defending a conman are pretending he has an “MD” when he clearly doesn’t. His HIGHEST educational degree was Bach of Sci, that’s it. There’s ZERO proof of him ever obtaining an MD degree he claims.
@@kovy689 You made that up, that's a falsehood. You're a liar.
@@Ezramicon Made what up?
Also, since you love defending a conman, kindly tell me where’s his MD? I’ll wait…
Your videos are compelling. Your comments are well considered, clearly and sequentially delivered, and critically researched. You are kind and reasonable, open to being shown otherwise.
Thank you for sharing the immense effort it takes to consider, research, and substantiate each claim. I usually have to listen twice to digest all your points! You are a balm in this world of emotionally reactive, side taking, inaccurate one liner bombs. You are a mentor to me!
Another fantastic episode! I'm so glad you address Dr. Chaffee's concerning statements and lack of background details. Also, I loved the shout outs to so many great voices in the data-driven plant based community! ❤
Maybe it is a time to stop addressing him as MD? I am confused he lied only about that particular university and he then really finished MD elsewhere or he did not finish any university?
You are the best, Chris. Absolutely fantastic quality and engaging content. So well said, so informative.
Plants are trying to kill me?
Thank you Dr Chaffey for making my oatmeal breakfast sound more badass
Chris one of my friends got a heart attack eating a carnivore diet and he still believes that his diet is not a problem,main stream media is trying to get u the doctors are suggesting a Mediterranean diet but he still wont listen, idk what to do now
Support and Love trump food every time. Look up Roseto Effect and "Hearts knit Together" about bunny rabbit petting and heart disease. Love, appropriate touch, and community support are epigenetic (above the physical gene expression) and regardless the method of gathering energy resources (calories, hydration, sunlight, sleep).
It is not what goes into the mouth but out of it that defiles you.❤
That was my dad and sister and now many friends, who died of heart attacks - including a close one last week. 😔 In a moment of discouragement, I told Simon Hill I think the food companies won and we lost.
But I just focus on the ones who we can love from part way down the funnel of misbelief to restoring their health. We all know some people who do.
I would suggest searching "how to deprogram a conspiracy theorist " on the internet. This appears to be your friends problem, however check if it comes from food intolerances or allergies causing them to become paranoid.
@PlantChompers saying "I think the food companies have won" , is just as bad as the conspiracy theories you are trying to debunk. Food companies literally sell whatever people want to buy, take breakfast cereals you can choose one that's 97% whole grain and dried fruit with maybe 3% sugar or you can choose one that is 30% sugar and most of the rest of ingredients is refined carbohydrates. These options are available in any Western style supermarket. The food companies and supermarkets couldn't care less what you choose , there's no conspiracy they just want you to part with your money on one of their product options.
@@annoyedaussie3942 so it's not conspiracy, it's observation.
Thank you for this episode. I really appreciate learning about why folks believe what they believe… you have done an excellent job of exploring that over the last couple of years… it helps us to lead with compassion.
Thank you, for another great episode... I can well imagine the stress that must occur when various nutritional tribes decide you a public enemy number 1 simply because you expect evidence to back up the claims of others. I have had alas numerous arguments with carnivores, where the response, when I ask for evidence that their diet is healthy get them respond that they have been on a Carnivore diet for X amount of time (often 5 years or less) and that they have never felt better... Guys like you Simon and Gil (And Siobhan too for that matter) do a great job of helping us understand the science behind your claims.
Not every day you're so early you can't see any comments on plant chompers!
As always, a stellar video. You are my go to guy, along with Simon Hill, to clarify the misinformation and hysterical hype that’s so prevalent on RUclips and certain social media sites. Thank you thank you for all you do!
Keep going Chris! You're the only plant channel I watch . . . and watch and watch and watch. Also, please write a book. Your story is too important to be lost!
Hi Chris, thanks for a great video! It was Impeccably researched, well presented, and kind. Your best episodes are the ones that shed light on youtube creators that are off the rails. Sadly, these must take a great deal of energy and don't add to our knowledge of nutrition. Thanks.
Excellent video. Appreciate your time on it.
I knew what I was dealing with when I heard this Chaffee tidbit early in this clip--"don't talk about studies; it's 'first principles' that matter." First principles without scientific foundation don't mean a damn thing. If they do, we are all doomed. They aren't principles at all, first or otherwise. They are just cherry-picked dogma that make some people a lot of money. And these clips of Chafee wearing scrubs and surgical hats as props are pretty disgusting if he never has practiced as a doc.
Dr Anthony Chaffee is an American medical doctor and Neurosurgical resident who, over a span of 20+ years, has researched the optimal nutrition for human performance and health.
@@jeannie920Imagine spending 20 years studying nutrition but still ending up with a narrative that goes wildly against the totality of evidence, and disrespects the most revered researchers
...it's like being the world's worst detective
@@jeannie920 Funny how he can't provide any evidence for his neurosurgical residency.
Excellent work. Always love the deep dive into the chosen subject.
Love the respectful tone u showed even amidst the doubt and skepticism about his background, which is suspicious to say the least.
Actually, i realized recently that Seaberry has B12. Did not even know it while i was eating it on a daily basis. So its not just duckweed.
I didn't know about seaberry. I asked Google's AI (Gemini) and got this answer. Is it correct?
Seaberry (also known as sea buckthorn) does contain a form of vitamin B12, but it is not the active form that humans can use.
There have been studies indicating the presence of vitamin B12 in sea buckthorn, with some even suggesting it could be a significant source. However, the form of B12 found in sea buckthorn is not the active form (cyanocobalamin) that humans need. Instead, it is an inactive analogue that does not have the same vitamin activity.
Whether or not sea buckthorn can contribute to vitamin B12 intake in humans isstill unclear and needs further research. If you are concerned about your vitamin B12 levels, it's important to consult a doctor or registered dietitian for advice and recommendations.
@@Viva-LongevityDid Gemini provide links to (human generated) studies?
Some time ago I asked a trusted AI what are good plant sources of vitamin D. In the list were sunflower seeds. I might have "thought" that the sun in sunflower is literal and so provides vitamin D idk, but I would be as careful with AI as Chaffee as a source of reliable information.
@@Viva-Longevity I believe perplexity is a better LLM when one wants links to content sources and less hallucinations 😂
@@Viva-Longevity I would not trust AI, especially when it says cyanocobalamin is the form we need. While cyanocobalamin is the supplement form that is not naturally present anywhere.
@@Viva-Longevity "Isolation and analysis of vitamin B12 from plant samples" 2017
Hippophae rhamnoides was found to be a significant source of vitamin B12.
Above 98% of active vitamin B12 was found in Hippophae rhamnoides.
"Determination of Vitamin B12 in Sea Buckthorn (Hippophaes rhamnoides)" 2015
Actinorhizal plants, such as Hippophae rhamnoides are symbiotic with actinobacteria Frankia Alni, they are potential hosts for vitamin B12. The method was applied in several plant samples, but significant amounts of vitamin B12 were detected only in Hippophaes rhamnoides (37 μg/ 100 g dry weight).
Your channel is my new favorite on RUclips. I’ve watched a ton and everything is seriously so solid.
As always, amazing level headed information bombshell. Thank you. I get excited every time I see your videos!
I used to be a plant chomper, for 14-15 years. I had to stop as it ruined my health physical and mental. I had so many sports injuries that wouldn't heal and my mental health suffered major depression, constantly tired and lethargic. After 14-15 years I decided enough was enough and to start eating meat and fish again, but only white meat chicken and occasionally very red meat. I then started eating eggs which was a game changer. My health massively improved physical injuries healed but I still got them from time to time. I do a lot of sports - running and cycling. I bumped along for about 10 years like this. Then about 4-5 years ago I discovered Keto and started looking into what it entailed as I had still been eating carbs and sugar, bread, pasta, pizza, potatoes, etc up until this point. I had skin issues for many years that just would not heal. They were very itchy and unsightly and I was very conscious of them. They would leave scarring when they finally healed after many months and other lesions would pop up. Doctors didn't have a clue what they were. They were useless frankly. I had biopsies which didn't shed any light with the tests they ran on my excised skin. A waste of time. I knew my skin issues were diet related as the final biopsy I was already Keto and the dermatologist insisted I start eating a lot of wheat again which I was reluctant to do to see if my skin condition got worse and it did which really depressed me.
Intermittent fasting 24-48 hours or the 5:2 diet and moving to OMAD was a game changer at the same time as Keto was a game changer. My skin started to clear up with in one month it was largely healed. I have been doing Keto for the last 4.5 - 5 years.
Wheat and gluten definitely causes my skin to flare up as I have done several elimination and addition since doing Keto and it's wheat foods. So no bread pasta pasta cookies all that UPF shit any more and also veggie/vegan food which I had been eating years previously which is full of wheat, gluten and other nasty supplements and additives.
Then about 2-3 months ago after having heard of the carnivore diet about one year ago and dismissing it, I decided to give it a go. So far I feel so bloody good. I have not been over weight for years but still I am now lean and strong with endless stamina like I am 22 years old again. I am pushing 60. I still only eat OMAD and occasionally IF although not as frequently as when I started Keto around 5 years ago.
I've noticed in the last couple of months eating carnivore my muscle mass has increased and although I have done regular calisthenics and lifting weights since starting Keto around 5 years ago, eating carnivore now has only has made me a lot stronger and brought more muscle bulk which is so important as you age as sarcopenia is such a problem. I guess this is because of the nutrient dense nature of meat, of beef and lamb that plants simply cannot match.
In the last couple of months I have occasionally continued to eat broccoli because I like the taste and also tomatoes but that is about it on the veggie front. Mostly I eat mainly beef, lamb or pork - steaks, ground, roast or stewed. Occasionally chicken. And eggs 2-3 eggs each day, sardines and mackerel. All the meat I eat is the best quality grass fed finished etc and oily fish wild caught. And I feel absolutely bloody fantastic. I am a different person, a healthy fit, strong, clear thinking person rather than a constantly knackered tired, fatigued person with injuries and brain fog with depression that I used to be when veggie all those years ago in my 30s and 40s when I fell for all that BS demonising meat and eggs as dangerous for long term health.
So glad I saw the light. Whilst I don't agree with Chaffees comments that plants are literally trying to kill you, I don't think they are doing you any good. Mind you the glyphosphate sprayed on them might and all the other seriously harmfully fungicides and pesticides might be. The reason why the veggie/vegan diet is pushed so hard is because the huge processed food manufacturers can still make huge profits from making and selling processed garbage UPF to people who falser think meat is bad for your health and will cause all sorts of health conditions from heart attacks to cancer. The governments are the source of this, complicit with most medics, big pharma and the processed food industry. It's BS. The biggest con trick in history. The truth is as Dr Chaffee says meat, red meat is such a rich dense nutrient and protein source which you cannot argue with. Plants are such a low grade source of nutrients and compared to meat and they taste crap. Seriously they taste crap compared to a good beef steak or bacon. They are heaven absolutely heaven to eat compared to plants.
If you want to get diabetes then continue to eat plants, wheat and all the UPF made from it. It's your premature funeral. Starch, sugar and carbs are quite literally killers. Millions across of the developed world are now obese and have T2 diabetes not to mention all the other very serious health conditions diabetes brings.
It's a scandal between governments, the food manufacturers, most doctors and big pharma as they all have vested interests in that people being ill and remaining ill their whole lives is very profitable. Even government dietary advice from the US AHA and UK NHS is to eat a diet low in fat, plant based, whole grains, starch carb fruits and veg based, to avoid meat. The national diabetes associations also even give out this shit. It is so wrong it is criminal.
When you understand the damage a starchy carb and sugar based diet can do to your body causing insulin resistance and T2 diabetes then you can cut them out and reverse the damage it causes. Record levels of T2 diabetes and now dementia T3 diabetes. Reverse this by eating Keto or carnivore diets.
if you value your health eating meat, fish and eggs is a necessity. There are NO essential carbs. None.
Bravo !!!!!
👏 great job!!
Will I assume you have a leaky gut based on your gluten sensitivity and skin flare ups. Do you know cow and other animal proteins seep thru your permeable gut & into your bloodstream? Do u really want to get other autoimmune diseases bc your body has to create antibodies to fight dead animal proteins? Meat is so highly acidic and carcinogenic. And by reading your story, you ate a bunch of crap! Eating pizza & sugar then blaming PLANTS 😂 for your health is completely wrong. U may feel better bc your not eating the same junk, you've eliminated bad food, DOESNT MEAN MEAT is the one to praise.
@@alexmorgan3435 Almost sounded plausible but got carried away towards the end.
@@jj-bp3fr Eat plants, eat cancer.
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Food allergies, and sensitivities, are rampant in the modern world, and doctors (mostly) suck at diagnosing it. For years I had constant low to moderate joint pain. For me it turned out to be milk protein. A month on the whole 30 had me pain free, and the first pizza had me waking with nasty join pain. It would help if we could do a better job of identifying these sensitivities and supporting people with these food sensitivities. Of course identifying any food additives that might be contributing to this would be a big win, if that pans out.
Even replacing animal protein with less than ideal plant protein like bread can improve ageing markers? I would still recommend staying away from UPF as much as we can though
I've seen/read information on both sides of the veg vs carnivore and I really believe as long as you are eating one or the other or both, but more importantly NOT eating the highly processed crap, seed oils being at the top of my shit list, you are on the right track. Eat real natural foods. Problem is many plants are becoming less and less natural. GMO, pesticides, gases for ripening etc. The same can be said for some meats as well, but to a lesser extent I believe.
I personally eat carnivore. Tried all veg and juicing but ultimately never felt satisfied or healthy - always hungry and bloated. It was better than the standard shit diet of "if it feels good eat it" but I feel far far better in every aspect when I am strictly Carnivore. Mostly red meat and fish. Lost my taste for chicken, but is the store bought bird really still a chicken?
I don't give a shit what people eat. What does piss me off to no end, is when people complain about all their mysterious health issues, but in no way admit or even think it might have something to do with the highly refined sugary crap they consume hand over fist. Oh no it cant be cupcakes, it must be a magical mystery or genetics.
I will say though, argue about the virtues of veggies all you want - you cant deny the renewed health of many many long term carnivores. Where's all the cancer and heart attacks? You can't look at a fast food meal, and blame the meat in the burger for poor health outcomes. Carnivore means meat only. Not meat with fries and ketchup and bread.
Another prime example is bbq folks. They eat a very meat heavy diet, and many of them are not slim or healthy looking, but they smother it in sugary sauces, with sugary beans, and corn breads and biscuits. Yet some people equate this to a carnivore diet, or simply use it to point out how bad red meat is. Really?
I continuously see carnivores experiencing amazing results. Until I see the dropping like flies from cancer and heart disease... Im going to continue to do what works for me. "Science" ( a seemingly laughable term at this point) can say what it wants, or at least be interpreted as needed by the author or reader, but if it doesn't bear out in real life...
Perhaps you could 'debunk' why carnivores aren't dropping like flies. Where's the pile of corpses? Say what you want about Anthony Chaffee - he and his followers are experiencing amazing health. This does not imo conclude that all plant eaters are bad or dying. To each his own. However I dont think we can use 'science'to tell people who have renewed their health to the highest level they've ever known, that its not real and they are actually unhealthy - this study says so.
Thanks. As I mentioned in the episode, I believe the stories of people who have dramatically improved their health on a carnivore diet. But we also have thousands of years of experience, and 100 years of data, which show that it falls far short of a longevity diet. It gets popular about every 70 years and then fades as the long-term effects become known again.
@@Viva-Longevity great can you share with me the data on that? If there's 100 yrs of data and every 70 yrs carnivorous woe pops up but then fades, I'd be really interested to see your data on that. Thanks
@@Viva-Longevity oh and of course the 'long-term effects' - what are those? I assume they are listed in the data. If I really am.putting my health at risk I'd like to know. Previously I felt the whole plant eating thing, which didn't seem to work for me at all, was based on right wing religious theory, and of course to promote processed foods and supplements, but I am open to seeing the actual non-bias scientific data.
I did a series on health influencers and how long they lived. Guys like Blake Donaldson were carnivore 70 years ago and James Salisbury about 140 years ago. It used to be healthier than it is now because some of the meat was wild, there was more variety, they ate more of the animal, and it was before the age of marbling. But even then they had trouble getting to 80, whereas even smokers can get to 100 or more.
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I think the perfect paleo diet must follow the traditional paleo methods of getting food. Meat is an unreliable food source. Hunting is a difficult thing to do without modern weapons.
Like you mentioned, the further away from the equator, the less dependent on plants for calories, and the more dependent on aquatic animals, and mammals. It appears to me (from brief reading) that modern hunter-gatherers rely heavily on plants including tubers, and eggs, honey, and small game.
Also, modern hunter-gatherers have a fairly short life expectancy, though I do not know how much that is influenced by diet versus other environmental conditions.
But what seems clear to me is that today's practice of CAFO raised meat supplying large amounts of calories leads to many of the leading causes of poor health and mortality. I am thriving on a whole food, plant-based diet, and expect to continue on that path.
Quite the contrary, meat was overly abundant and easy to obtain. Hunting is not hard at all and ways of preserving meat for many months are ancient and not even salt is needed, even today in many areas we have an over abundance of preys.
"Short life expectancy", i don´t know if all you are doing this on purpose or what, that "short life expectancy" is due to exposition to hard environment conditions, inter human violence, etc. specially during their childhood, and youth years, also pregnancy problems increment that "short life expectancy". Also that calculation is made considering childhood which always has the most elevated mortality rates; even without healthcare once they went through infancy, adolescence and young adulthood they could expect to live healthy lives up to around 70 years old.
EDIT I make clear for anyone reading, if you are doing fine with classic diets, vegan, etc. dont do keto or any other hypercarnivore, many of us only do them for our health, if we could we would happily eat "normally".
@@Wen6543 There is an abundance of highly regarded studies that prove conclusively that high animal consumption leads to heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes, and all cause mortality. That's today.
The longest-lived and healthiest people on the planet are in blue-zones, where meat consumption is very low.
I understand mortality rates are birth-death models, and that our life expectancy increased dramatically when we conquered early childhood death.
But 70 is not very old, considering the average in the world is 73, and 77 in the US, and that in blue zones it is as much as a decade longer than that. Those in blue zones are ten times more likely to live to be 100.
That's now.
The Inuit people in Canada live less than a decade as long as non-indigenous Canadians.
My opening comment was meant to suggest that hunting using primitive tools and hunting techniques would result in greater dependence on vegetable matter for most paleo people.
Modern hunter-gatherers such as the Hadza in Tanzania eat about 100 grams of fiber a day. You cannot do that without eating a lot of plants, which they do.
There is a pretty good article in Scientific American I read a few years ago, that sheds some light on our paleo ancestors' diets.
www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-paleo-diet-half-baked-how-hunter-gatherer-really-eat/
@@janerkenbrack3373 I´d love to argue more with you about this subject but this is Chris´s channel, i try to be not so annoying in his home.
And even when i am doing an hiper carnivore diet i do believe that he and you have a lot of correct ideas regarding vegan and vegetarianism, but not as much regarding carnivore which still is a mystery specially in the long term, there is no good evidence supporting it neither opposing it.
Regards.
@@Wen6543 Thanks for the respectful comments. I wish you well.
@@janerkenbrack3373 There is a newer article (June 2024) titled To Follow the Real Early Human Diet, Eat Everything.
In any case, for the greater part of our evolutionary history, our ancestors would have eaten like our great ape and primate cousins but I suppose that fact doesn't help to rationalise an obviously unhealthy diet.
Of course, this whole paleo diet marketing claim is based on the appeal to nature fallacy anyway, as well as invented 'facts'.
As an evolution nerd, if he wants to go back to first principles he needs to actually read something like Dawkins. The first principle is that we are gene replication machines. Anything that gets us to reproductive success is valid. The fact that a diet can get you to 30 is all that matters. And it tells you absolutely nothing about whether that diet can get you to 80 without modern healthcare.
The funny thing is that he takes the exact opposite stance of what you should do. Modern studies that look at outcomes is what matters. Saying our ancestors ate it because of "evolution" completely misses the only thing evolution cares about. Genes. Evolution is basically done with you after your kids are adults. It absolutely did not design us to be healthy at 90 years old
That doesn’t mean it’s not possible. It just means you have to actually look at outcomes and not misguided “first principles” as he calls it. Even though it’s not actually a first principle.
Just going to point out that your reasoning about evolution being done with us once kids are adults is slightly flawed. If grandparents can contribute to their children having more kids and more successfully raising children by sharing skills with their grandkids, then healthy/smart older people still have an influence on the success of their genes. And plenty of studies have shown that kids being around grandparents is a positive thing
Your reasoning would apply to animals that don't have larger social ties, but strong family ties and social hierarchies can perpetuate the influence of the older generation long past their reproductive years.
@@jandjhirstBut that doesn't apply to passing your genes, which is what evolution is all about
@@mayhu3282 Wrong, it's about survival of your genes. So if you can contribute to the survival of future generations beyond your immediate offspring, those traits would still be favored by natural selection.
Chris and Toni - thank you so much for all that you do to help us.
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Dr. Chafee says he did sub-internship in Duke and the only way to verify this is to go to Duke’s verification website, fill-out the form and submit “authority to release” form to ask for Dr. Chafee’s record.
This form can only be signed by him and no one else can ask this personal information except himself.
I started to think now: Chris, did you fake his credentials and signature to verify his education and internship status? Otherwise how did you verify this?
Sounds like you (or your imaginary “fact checkers”) committed a serious criminal offense by forging document to access someone’s confidential personal information.
Can you elaborate on how you accessed Dr. Chafee’s records?
Because I tried to access, this is what Duke says in their own verification website. Help us to understand your “fact checking” process please?
Watch the video. Duke's response makes it clear that I wasn't posing as Chaffee, and they offered an email for more info.
You didn't address their response.
When I ate meat, my b-12 was too low. The doc put me on a lot of b-12. Now that I eat WFPB, I make sure I take a multivitamin with b-12.
As is required on a plant-based diet
Plant-based doesn't mean vegan. I just drink milk and eat yogurt for b12 and it does the job.
@@limitisillusion7 my philosophy is vegan. It’s about reducing animal cruelty. My diet is WFPB.
@@Fclwilson Is milking a cow animal cruelty if you feed and care for it in return?
@@limitisillusion7 what arw you going to do with the babies that are required for the cow to produce milk? Eat them?..
Oh my, the ending is a bombshell
Well, carnivore here. For 20 months. It has changed my life (saved it). Type 2 diabetes gone, leaky kidneys, fatty liver, obesity, arthritic inflammation, food addiction…all gone!… i haven’t eaten any plants since the start. No fibre, no constipation, no pain.I feel the best I have for 20 years! I’m 67yr old woman….. Dr Chaffee’s video was the first I saw on this way of eating and I gave it 90 days before I was going to make my decision to continue but after 4 days I knew I wouldn’t go back to my old way of eating (that’s when I stopped taking diabetes medication) I only take 2 of the prescription drugs of the 8 I used to take…Yes, humans can eat plants. It saves us during tough hunting times(meat).
I also changed our doberman to meat only and reversed her front elbow dysplasia pain…. So, in MHO, carnivore is the best thing I have ever done for myself…. 😊 my health is all the proof I need which diet is better….
As a Ps… that title “plants are trying to kill you” was what peaked my interest to have a look.
I wish i knew how to look up reliable soruces! I learn a lot from your videos on where and who to look to, thank you ❤
god bless you Chris. I get a headache thinking of the incredible hard work you do to make these amazing episodes. Thank you, thank you, thank you! I've given up nominating THIS ONE is your best. No, this one is your best. There are so many great ones!
Thank you so much, Andy. 😁
In reference to the clip at 26:13: I think that guy is wrong at least by my anecdotal experience. My kid did prefer broccoli to cake. At 1 and at 2 when given cake at birthday anniversary gathering at grandparents' place, the baby chose the plate of lightly cooked broccoli over the cake. Sadly it is not that way now. I truly believe it is due to exposure to a society full of eating crap. Kid is surrounded by it. They buy the crap with their own money.
My wife has a rare condition called gstroparisis, secondary to muscular dystrophy. I am absolutely convinced it is NOT, you are what eat, ITS you are what you can absorb. Even if you can get the proteins broke down properly, you still have to get them into the bowel, and as you age your gut mobility will decline like alll your other muscles. Everyones different. A Childs needs and elderly persons needs are different, i was a big meat eater in my youth then, it was more balanced, now its softer and more veggie, less meat. Yes i agree in the importance of cooking in human development, but again there is a difference? meat requires waiting and cooking is basically reheating, fish is more so getting the gremlins out to get at the iodine ect. Idoine is clearly the main factor in IQ, so populations near the sea would develop quicker due to better intelligence levels. Check the iodine levels in cooked cod.and seaweed.
Little kids will shun veggies and gobble up the meat on their plate. Eating meat is instinctual. It’s in our DNA.
Little kids will shun meat and gobble up candy and donuts. It's instinctual, in our DNA.
@@Viva-Longevity Who feeds their kids candy and donuts?
@@PanSearedRibeye68the point stands , given the option most kids would shun meat and choose candy and donuts. It’s instinctual ;)
Kids also love fruit - kinda self defeating argument for a carnivore this one.
@PanSearedRibeye68 The vast majority of Americans.
@@Viva-Longevity We’re talking about Whole Foods. Not candy and cookies which weren’t around 100,000 years ago. Kids and adults prefer meat because it’s what our digestive systems were designed to process. Kids instinctively shun veggies and gobble up meats and eggs. They know.
I was gaining weight 50 extra pounds, started to lose energy, hip and back pain to point I needed medications. I got blood work a year ago and was prediabetic, beginning of fatty liver, high blood pressure and cholesterol a bit on the high side. Doctor didn't mention diet, drugs were the thing I needed and for the long term. I had had enough!! I started watching Dr Ken Berry, Dr Anthony Chaffee, Dr Berg and a few others, read comments of people going on Keto or Carnivore. decided to change my diet, seed oils, stuff in packages, and grains were the first to go. Now a year later and blood pressure is normal, fatty liver gone, cholesterol normal, and I don't have a B12 deficiency and no pains. I now eat only twice a day, I eat seasonal fruit from my few fruit trees and only in small amounts. I eat veg I love from my garden along with organic, meat, fish and eggs with a sprinkle of cheese. At 69 I feel like I did in my 40s I still struggle with weight so am going to go full Carnivore and fat adapt. Winter is coming and garden and fruit are done for the year. I will introduce fruit and veg next summer when fresh from my garden. If I have a reaction i will eliminate. I say do what is best for you and make choices that make you feel better.
I still think Michael Pollan says it best:
Eat food( real food with as little processing as possible), not too much, mostly plants.
Diet and health solved!