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I installed a side stand so I can do an oil change without making a mess of it. I have a Primavera 150. I just changed the air filter for practice. I carry my helmet with me and store my wife's in the pet carrier. It's not perfect but it works. Love the Vespa. Nice vid . "Get out the way, you're on the wrong side of the road." Have a nice cappa
you are totally right , the price is so expensive if you compare it to the quality , there is no space to put the helmet hahaha , and the side stand is so weak the rust spreads quickly dawn the vehicle ans then the vespa is to to low very close to the ground making the rims bigger will be much better
Yes although I’ve got this video I’ve also got the video things I love about it, it does bring a smile to my face whenever I ride it, plenty of low down grunt
Yeah, especially so since that's kind of their selling point. They rag on the Japanese scooters with plastics body parts, and you pay a premium for a non-plastic "luxury brand" experience.
I’ve had one a decade ago. Bought it new. Within two years, the exhaust rotted away, even to the extent the exhaust fell off on the freeway. I then bought a Leovince exhaust, which had a great sound. As an experienced motorcycle rider, I had difficulty getting used to the small wheels. I also kept dragging the side stand in left corners. I did appreciate the solid metal fairing and body. Hardly any plastic on the scooter. Breaking was very mediocre. Mileage was great, over 30 kilometers per liter. Top speed wasn’t too bad either, 140 on the speedometer. I bought a large windscreen, but eventually cut some 10 centimeters off from the top because in fog I couldn’t see anything. I also found the wheels and metal parts of brakes to wear when riding in winter. It was stalled in my garage every day, yet, the paint from calipers already started flaking off. The wheels were discoloring too, probably due to road salt. I enjoyed how nimble it felt in heavy traffic and how quick it was, the exhaust making a deep roar. The police had once mistaken me for a moped, which was hilarious. The female police officer directed me on a mobile dynabank in order to measure its power and I kept politely telling the lady that she better not ask me to do this because my scooter would wreck the machine, which made her even more angry because she thought I was bragging. Her male colleagues had already spotted the issue but let her fall into the trap and were almost falling to the ground laughing when I finally told the officer that if she’d let me explain and finish my sentence she could have learned that I was riding a motorcycle rather than a moped, with 23 horsepower, which would definitely wreck her dyna machine. She blushed and covered her face when she finally checked and noticed I had a motorcycle license plate. Good fun!
All motorcycles have exposed oil fillers not just Vespa. Adding covers etc just increases the level of complexity when maintaining it. Bump starting is gonna be difficult on any machine with fuel injection and CDI ignition. Without power you won't get fuel or enough power to energise the igniter for a spark. put it down to progress and thank Greta. Stands are required by law to flip up or cut the ignition because so many people ride off with them down and fall off at the first left hand bend. Don't blame Vespa, blame the safety nazis and idiots who leave their stands down and making it enough of a thing the nanny state has to intervene.
I had a vespa gtv 300,it rains alot in seattle.i used wax the shit out of it before rainy season.i had no rust on it at.not even underneath.wax all metal parts on any scooter.
Yeh good idea but if it’s second hand and hasn’t been treated it’s a big problem. But we shouldn’t have to do this, I’ve got a VW Van and don’t lay under it waxing it all the time! Ride safe 🛵
I agree with you on all points, especially price. I had a GT125l a few years back and I took her out all year round. She was a constant trouble due to rust. So much so that the next scooter I bought was all plastic fairings and virtually maintenance free.
@@Slowbiker1957 I think Honda collect all the best engineers in Italy and now Piaggo have to work with bad engineers 😂 I am joking . Can you explain me why Piaggo can't built a scooter engine what have not the similar power like a Honda or Yamaha?I drove the Vespa 300 GTS and I like the Design but with 279 cubic Engine i had a power like a Japanese 125 cubic Scooter ,even the Piaggio Liberty 350 is not like a Yamaha 300 X max or a Honda Forza or sh 300! Because of this I wrote this ,I like Vespa s design ,for me it is a Scooter with the best Design but the Engines are horrible and I feel me more safe with my Yamaha X max 300 when I drive in the highway with 120 km/h. With my Vespa I did not feel good after 100 km/h and it is not possible to take a motorcycle helmet in the helmet box from Vespa but in the helmet box of the Yamaha X Max I can put 2 motorcycle helmets .
spay it with protective rubber coating unterneath before ot start to rust, you can glue some rubber sheet over the unprotected part of oil filter , sidestand live with it helmet bay = another tub inside with glassfibercomposit
I don't think I would be happy to pay extra for an upper shelf scooter from brand with decades of experience and to be later forced to fix on my own such clumsy engineering and even won't be able to fit an original helmet in a place designated for it.
Jason DeMel Wow you do get low in the corners! Yeh it's so bad it's laughable. Glad to have helped. Thanks for visiting my Channel, please subscribe if you found this useful, would really appreciate it. Have a great week and ride safe.
νικος γιώργος Actually I'd never thought about it until you mentioned it. Please su.....o wait. I'll check out what other channels do. Have a good week.
you can jump start the GTS just use one of the available power packs or even standard jump leads, you cannot bump start it which is what I think that you mean, you could push any automatic vehicle from John O' Groats to Lands End & you will not get it to start I think this is true of any auto vehicle. Have to say had my 2008 250 GTS from new & I love it..:)
Yeh I keep a set of jump leads under the seat as it let me down once. I think I put ignition on but left it 5 mins whilst I got ready and the battery drained from the silly headlight which comes on as soon as you turn on the ignition. I do love my Vespa (hence the other video). Please subscribe if you can, would really appreciate it. Have a great weekend and thanks for visiting my channel. Lurgs
I owned 2007 GTS250 for 6.5 years and put 20,000 miles on it before I sold it end of 2015... two most things I hate about my GTS was the passenger pegs position and undersea storage too narrow and won't let my helmet go in.... than that... one of best scooter I ever owned!
My #1 thing I hate about Vespas is having the gas tank under the seat. It spills, and it ruins using the pillion for storage if you go on longer trips or camping. The Piaggio BV 350 has the gas tank on the floor and there's no reason they couldn't do that for Vespas as well. As to the helmets, when I was in Italy I almost never saw anyone wearing a full-face helmet (which is too bad). That's why Piaggio doesn't seem to care about this.
I've never spilled my petrol, maybe you are over filling it. I agree on helmet storage, annoying coz my old Piaggio ET4 125cc could store a full face helmet under the seat. Although it has bad points I do enjoy the ride. Ride safe and have a great Christmas. 🎄
Agree about the rust issue. That’s the main reason I changed it for the Beverly 350 which with large wheels and no corrosion problems is by far the better bet. Great for A round touring. 70 MPG and no mechanical issues in 6 years of ownership. Rock steady riding that beats anything in traffic including most other bikes. 16 inch front wheel and wide 14 inch rear.
These aren't just little niggles these are terrible design features and poor build quality.... Was thinking of getting 1 but after watching this I'll not bother...
Glad my video helped. It's a beautiful looking machine and rides ace but the build quality is questionable. I watched it rot underneath and everyone said you should treat it etc.. But why should we have to? I've got a VW Van and I don't expect to lay under that every year and treat it with rust proof stuff.
@@LurgsHowToGuides absolutely agree and it's not just vespa that have gone down hill in quality most Jap bikes have as well. I've seen 12k bikes that are still in warranty' that have rust and shoddy looking rear shocks flakey paint and other cosmetic issues. Yet a 17 year old honda blackbird that has been well maintained but still used and ridden looks amazing compared to modern Honda's. Everything is built to a price point these days and plenty of machines are well overpriced for what you get. The little vespa at it's price should have a oil filter guard and a thick stone chip paint on the underside' a stronger side stand and the helmet issues are shocking... All of which could be sorted for peanuts' a lovely looking bike with an iconic design but sadly the build quality is very poor in some key areas..
You have a imitation oil filter installed. They give often problems with leaking oil. The problem may is solved when you install a original oil filter.
Toying with the idea about buying a Vespa... perhaps a “little” less now. Thanks for a VERY informative video. At least now if I do decide on actually getting one.. I’ll know of a few more items to keep an eye on. Be safe.
Carl Rivera Yeh, check out the Love Vespa vid as well which balances it out. It's a great ride but deffo worth checking underneath! Glad to have helped. Thanks for visiting my Channel, please subscribe if you found this useful, would really appreciate it. Have a great weekend and ride safe.
I've had one for 13 years and 50,000 miles as my city bike and I don't regret it at all. I've been slowly modifying brakes and suspension as needed, and now it'll rip through corners like my XR650R supermotard. These are amazing bikes and I'd replace mine with another in an instant. Cheers.
BATTERY problems on a two WHEELER ?? .. tell me about it. !! Just TODAY i LOST one of those tiny battery contact screws . And i was lucky to have 1 REPLACEMENT screw or I would have been SCREWED ! The darn thing just fell into the bike and yeah .. its somewhere in there now..
Vespas are expensive and the frames should be galvanized before painting them. A new Vespa costs about 1/3 the price of a medium size car. The Italians failed miserably in the auto market because of the junk unreliable cars they offered. Now they are asking for a $7000 for a toy that does not worth more than half the price. How much it really cost to galvanize the frame in a mass production bike? Few dollars. This is the truth.
The dipstick “problem” is easy, just buy an aftermarket dipstick that requires a spanner to open. The oil filler “problem” is no different to most other bikes and is solved by adding a few strips of foam tape as protection, and the short mudguard “problem” is solved with a £4.99 mudflap and as for the rust well it’s a Vespa, polish it more and use anti rust regularly BEFORE it rusts. iv got a 2007 gts250 with no rust, why? Because its polished weekly and has had MANY coats of rust protecter over the years.and as for it can’t be bump started, it’s an automatic scooter, no auto can’t be bumpstarted it’s not a Vespa thing. Seems you have had to look VERY VERY hard to find problems that aren’t actually problems.
Hence why I also made my other video 'Things I love about my Vespa GTS 300'. Rust is my biggest gripe. Shouldn't have to do it. My VW T5 is 10 years old unmarked and it gets used all the time in all weathers. My Vespa is garaged and barely sees rain.
A friend of mine bought a brand new gts last August and has had it back to the dealer with 4 separate issues, not very impressive for the price, it's completely put me off going for vespa.
Vespa is a cool idea. However, From what I've seen, are you are going to ride the crap out of it or just play with it once in a while. If riding it and putting some real miles in, get a Japanese scooter. I never see any Vespa with any real miles on them. They seem to be maintenance pigs . Someone please tell me if I'm wrong. Vespa does tic the box on best looking though.
Athan Datu Glad the info helped. Check out my other video on things I love about it, that balances it up a bit. Have a great weekend and thanks for visiting
Nilo Franssen Thanks, I'll check that out later. Thank you. So happy to have helped. If you would like more How To tips like this video then please subscribe, I am always posting new Videos to help you save ⏱TIME and 💰 MONEY. Have a great week and thanks for visiting my Channel. I really appreciate it. Lurgs.
Regarding the oil filter, you must have been really unlucky. I changed my oil for the first time after 7 years of ownership (yes I know bad Vespa owner!) I only did 2000 miles in that time but it was horribly corroded but never leaked
What a moan. I've had a 250GTSie and 300GTS riding 80,000kms in total. The only thing that annoyed me was the rust issue and the No mention of idle / stalling issues though. Who cares about the helmet storage are you really going to leave it in there or worse still clipped to the side? Oil filter - never an issue never even considered. Fusebox - really how often do you change one. They are a great scooter.
Firstly you were really unlucky with the oil filter. Your spot on about the dipsticks it's about time all bikes have them in a secure non tamper place My 07 GTS 250 is growing on me it's a pig to fuel up without the aid of a little plastic funnel No underside rust issue but then again it's only done 5k dry miles I am a lambretta lover but for a modern scoot I think they are the best on the road ok there are the cheaper ting-tong scoots and I do like the Scomadi but the engines aren't a patch on the piaggio.
I don't like full face helmets anyway, too claustrophobic. I recognise that some have a problem with rust but I had a dragon red GTS. I sold it lat year and it was five years old and no sign of rust anywhere. I didn't like the side stand either and considered taking it off. I don't think side stands have anyplace on scooters. The main issue I had with the GTS was the passenger foot pegs, real heal trappers. I bought the foot rest extensions from SIP scooters, they work great but at £120 very expensive. I don't like the modern trend to use foot pegs on scooters either, it's a scooter not a motor bike and the floor should be extended rearwards.
Oh yeh good point. When I took a pillion those footpegs really do get in the way. They could have just extended the footwell backwards instead of putting footpegs on it. I had a 13 year old Vespa ET4 with no Rust so it's not good. Side stand is horrendous as you say. Thanks for your comment and please subscribe if you can, would really appreciate it. Have a great week and thanks for visiting my channel, and ride safe. Lurgs
The thing that I don't like about those foot pegs is if you have a passenger their feet are up against the back of your legs. It's just not designed correctly to have a passenger.
I have a dragon red GTS 150 and also didn't find any signs of rusting. Although I wonder if it has to do with the factory where the bike is assembled, as Vespas sold in Asia are mostly assembled in Vietnam and the GTS300s here also have no rust problem. As for the side stand, well tilting isn't that much of an issue for me but I think it needs a locking mechanism where it "clicks" and locks when you put the side stand down. The very same GTS 150 was borrowed by a friend and the side stand managed to fold back up, which left my friend in surprise finding my GTS laying down on it's side.
I bet an automotive under coating product will help protect your Vespa from rust, but I'm not sure if it will damage paint. Blaster makes a product in an aerosol can called Surface Shield. I know it's available in the US, but not sure about other countries.
You can’t bump start any bike or car with an automatic transmission, it’s not a Vespa design fault. As for the dipstick being on show and worrying that some “unknown” is going to fill your engine with sand or sugar well all I can say to that is you have a serious paranoia problem, that or you have clearly upset too many people.
You can jump start an injection or carbed scooter. All you do is take the transmission case off. Use a drill with a correct size bolt on the variator and spin the drill closewise. It'll eventually start once the drill gets to full rpm. Lol😂
Every scooter I know only starts if you pull one of the breaks, it must be an EU law. Also scooters side stands always automatically spring back. I don't know why they don't do it like on motorbikes. They are however more trustworthy than you think. My Explorer 125 (120 KG) dropped twice on the main stand because it was rusted through. It never dropped on the side stand though and even withstood wind force 11 - I don't know how this is possible. Having no kickstarter is a pity though. My Piaggio doesn't start anymore at -12C in winter if it was in the open. My Explorer still starts by kickstart at those temperatures. Helmets don't fit in either of my scooters, too. Maybe Italiens and Asians just have smaller heads :)
Electric start is for safety reason.kickstarter make no sense on ie bikes.u always need a battery to start up and all ie parts such as ecu pump injector.
I love my new Vespa (and I live in England). Within the first two weeks, I painted the Vespa's under-side with a road-grit protection product from Hammerite.
s0rry piaggi0 is 10 years ag0 m0vent t0 chinese quality standarts d0n't agree?? start taking a piaggi0 after 2010 apart and a h0nda 0r yamaha bike and if u d0nt see this u sh0uld keep driving a piaggi0 and keep having maintence alltime anyday g00d luck selling 0r breaking d0wn
Brilliant video. Not just an informercial for Vespa. These are real issues to think about. Has Vespa improved these issues since this video was posted 4 years ago?
I’m not sure as I don’t keep an eye on the new models, but brand new Vespas are very expensive so I would hope they have fixed the issues. The rust underneath still makes me angry now
And 7: The speedometer does not point at Zero when stationary. That is actually even remarkable to see on something this expensive, it would flipped me out I can say, and also mean that it show the wrong speed.
It does show the correct speed as the Speedometer only starts moving when it reaches that speed, it doesn't start moving straight away. But yeh I agree it's a bid odd when stationary.
This is because the speed-sensor is at the rear wheel, which is spinning, when the scooter is on the main stand and idling with cool engine. My Burgman's did it too.
Sounds like you need rhino liner. And you need to know how to tighten your oil filter properly. Probably some things you’re not doing yourself knowing the problems.
I am sorry I did not see this earlier, I might have saved you from your misery... 1. Here is a solution to the helmet in the underseat area: Pull the storage bin OUT of the Vespa. Put your helmet into the storage bin-SQUEEZE it in there. Push the storage bin back into the waiting Vespa. You will have to compress the sides a bit, but it will fit. If you want to protect the sides of your helmet, use a bit of cloth or plastic on the contact points. For those who want to hang the helmet from the stub under the seat, carry a heavy duty plastic bag to cover your helmet. 2. Add a front fender skirt, and paint the seams of the underbody with a clear coating, epoxy or acrylic or whatever. 3. Cover the oil filter with a cylindrical sleeve. Easy to manufacture yourself. Bob's your Uncle, Clyde. It might be best to use a mesh screen material and give it a couple of wraps-around. That preserves the air-cooling of the oil, which may or may not matter. 4. If you carry some tools, can't you open the battery cover and access the battery? If you really are worried about this you could permanently attach two leads from the battery and run them back into the engine bay and secure them. When you need a jump because you have not been monitoring your battery health, you can use those leads under the seat. 5. Buy a used Vespa, there should be enough around for sale. I skipped the side stand & oil fill, because a) I don't have that stand and b) I don't have wankers looking to sabotage my life. There are accessory filler caps that require a tool, so you might try that. May your misery abate.
All good points except for most of us with the larger heads/helmets. I got the Daytona because it was thinner. It fits down in the Pet Carrier just fine, BUT the seat won't close because the helmet still sits too high. I have 18 helmets and the only one that fits under the seat is my half helmet. My wife's helmets will fit though. I wear XXL or XXL depending on the brand of helmet. Your solution to just carry a plastic bag is practical. However, the person(s) that want it under the seat aren't looking for alternatives (usually) but solutions to make it fit. Anyhoo, valid points all and thanks for the post for those that need show/tell to help out.
I've just watch your video with interest and what you say is true. I've been a Piaggio mechanic for over 10 years and the bike could be improved. You pointed out the rust problem, take the plastic foot guard off and see what's going off under there. Give it plenty of wax oil then replace the plastic. Basically there a good bike, just needs care and attention. Oh, that thing about the oil filter, now days a lot of bikes have a similar problem, one to mention is the Honda Fire Blade. Stone comes off the front tyre and straight through the filter, it's amazing how the stone gets past the mud guard, the belly pan and the exhaust pipes but it does. Anyway enjoy your Vespa.
The Rust issue and the Oil Filter exposure are the biggest issues for me. Ok I'll have a look under the plastic foot guards, thanks for that. Great tip and thanks for the comment, really appreciate it. Have a great weekend.
@@LurgsHowToGuides no problem, if you do your own maintenance, make sure you keep the slide pins well greased on the Blake calipers, another seizure point.
@Gary Dodgson hello, the mud guard extender would slow down the rusting problem but the oil filter being on the right side of the engine would be harder too protect, as you said the average DIY mechanic in his shed might have problems fabricating a shield. Plus depending how it were made perhaps the changing of the filter may become harder than it already is. In my time as a Piaggio mechanic, and serviced many Vespa's it's not that common for the filter to get punctured. There made of really thick metal and too hole one you must be extremely unlucky. I've seen more that's rusted through owing to the lack of maintenance.
@Gary Dodgson that's a good idea, using a piece of PVA pipe, its how it would cope with the heat. You travel 20 to 30 miles them put your hand on the oil filter, I think plastic in contact with the engine would struggle. Its just maddening that you have to modify your vehicle because the manufacturer wants to save a penny here and there. The thing that really got me was the tie wraps. They snip them off any old how, then I'd PDI the scooter and get my hands and arms cut to pieces. Its amaising how they can't us square end snips, they use side cutters, so if you have to put your hands near the engine on a Vespa or other scooter take care. ☹
Also the passenger foot pegs are horribly placed. With passengers foot on them its difficult for the driver to place his legs normally at a stop. Also no hazard lights button... Would be easy and very little cost but why not have that on??
I hate the side stand. I never use it and it always scrapes the road when I turn. I’ve also never found a flat place to park, so for the love of Christ why Is it there!? I have to get one of those over priced winter blankets that snap onto the bike to keep my helmet dry 😂 or drag it into work where it never seems to have a place to go. As far as price I actually did just sell my 2012 ford escape for the same amount of money that I just spent on the 2022 GTS 300 super hpe but even though I think that’s insane I’m still freakin excited to get the latest model. The real tragedy is the new shed I had to buy to fit all the bikes lol I’m sure there will be one in my dining room by next year 😂
Nice. Sounds like you like motorcycles, here is my list of ones I've owned so far, might interest you, might not. ruclips.net/video/R5O5CT6rLCg/видео.html
Do you got any suggestions for me ,I am going to buy aprilia standard 160 on december (christmas eve ). Kind enough to reply .From kerala,India. I liked your keen eye for fault finding.Hope you see this before christmas.❤️❤️❤️❤️
That looks like a nice motorcycle. If it’s from a dealer make sure you get a warranty, if it’s second hand just check obvious things like underneath and check oil looks nice and clean and that it starts from cold.
You are so cool, you look like Eric Clapton. I was considering buying a Vespa But knowing the negative features of the Vespa that you told me about. I am a little disappointed. I think a scooter made in Japan or in Taiwan would be a better choice. But I think the Vespa is a beautiful motorcycle!
It's worth also watching my other video The things I love about my Vespa GTS300 as it's not all bad. It is a lovely beast to ride and plenty of power. I wish I was even 5% as rich as Eric Clapton! 😎
I finally just got my 2021 gts hpe supper and I can honestly say I didn’t expect to hate anything but i do, im back here to say that’s i hate the seat. True deep hatred. It’s so uncomfortable compared to the shape of the 08’ 250 ie. a friend of mine just got the same bike 2018 and hers has the older comfy seat. I’m thinking of getting it shaved down. I also hate how they changed the shape of the front so that none of the pre 2020 front racks can be used on the bike and you have to drill into the Front cover . I hate the seats so much I’m actually riding my older vespas 😂 however you might like the fact that I cannot seem to find the oil dip stick so there did hide that away lol.
I'm running a 2006 GTS 250 and find some disappointing things. I'm unconcerned about helmet storage, side stands, or the price. But I do wish it was easier to jump-start the scooter if the battery dies. My solution is to carry a small Anti-Gravity lithium battery with me. I've only had to use it once in winter when the scooter sat outside all day with the temperature near 0F. And as a year-round rider in snow and salt, I've had to have the underside sandblasted and repainted. Despite these things, I love the GTS I have and won't hesitate to replace it with a new one when it dies. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the scooter. I'll have to check out the one with things you love!
you are totally right mate , the price is so expensive if you compare it to the quality , there is no space to put the helmet hahaha , and the side stand is so weak the rust spreads quickly dawn the vehicle ans then the vespa is to to low very close to the ground making the rims bigger will be much better
I have owned lots of piaggio products, but not any more. I dont like fact that almost everything these days is made in china. Thats why I sold everything and bought yamaha. Sorry, but vespa is just brand and design now. No sign of quality anymore!
Kiki X Cheers. I've got a stainless steel electric radiator in my bathroom and that's going rusty, again poor quality steel. Please subscribe if you can, would really appreciate it. Have a great week and thanks for visiting my channel. And ride safe.
Everything is made in china even ur yamaha.piaggio liberty are nice bikes even 50cc and bigger ones.it comes with a nice look and has also vespa dash but not this old ugly one.
1. The Vespa sold in Asia are assembled in Vietnam. 2. The yamaha Xmax sold in Indonesia as well as in Europe are made here in Indonesia. 3. Not all things built in China are "low quality". Take iPhones for example. 4. Informative video. Thanks.
I think you find that most scooters are built in India and other asian countries ( in the west we don't want to pay for quality .then complain that manufacturing in the west is dying )
Bought a bargain 2008 model last week with 30k miles for less than 2000 euro because the dude needed the money but it was looked after. Not much rust, wasnt abused, didnt burn any oil, and it was from a reset CVT service with genuine piaggio parts. Frankly i can live with all 6 of them! Money wasnt an issue, i find the sidestand is the best quality side stand i ve ever had on a scooter, all the rest retracted too fast while this one is smooth and this makes it just better overall. The engine is shared across multiple scooters so the oil filter location is kind of an "it is what it is" situation. The dipstick issue is true for every bike on the road today, if someone is out to get you and you ride a bike, he will. Lastly, to be honest, there hasnt been a kickstart 300cc scooter in decades, thats a problem people have been dealing with every scooter everyday since you cant push start them either. If money is not an issue, there are some very compact, usb charged battery boosters that work for cars and also bikes. You can get one and keep it on the vespa for a modern solution to this problem. The one im personally familiar with from my job is the size of a modern phone, has also got a magnet and flashlight, so you can even work in the dark if you get stranded somewhere
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I installed a side stand so I can do an oil change without making a mess of it. I have a Primavera 150. I just changed the air filter for practice. I carry my helmet with me and store my wife's in the pet carrier. It's not perfect but it works. Love the Vespa. Nice vid .
"Get out the way, you're on the wrong side of the road." Have a nice cappa
Birdman C Cheers. Ride safe and have a great weekend
thanks for video lurgs, if it wasn't for people like you we wouldn't know these problems.
Cheers
you are totally right , the price is so expensive if you compare it to the quality , there is no space to put the helmet hahaha , and the side stand is so weak the rust spreads quickly dawn the vehicle ans then the vespa is to to low very close to the ground making the rims bigger will be much better
What I hate about a Vespa is not owning one.
Yes although I’ve got this video I’ve also got the video things I love about it, it does bring a smile to my face whenever I ride it, plenty of low down grunt
The rust problem is what I hate the most. For what you pay for them they should NEVER rust like that! NEVER!
Totally agree
I’ve seen Chinese scooters with less rust on them.
Yeah, especially so since that's kind of their selling point. They rag on the Japanese scooters with plastics body parts, and you pay a premium for a non-plastic "luxury brand" experience.
My vespa 50s is 40 years old and it has less rust
Sorry 😞
@01yala possibly better quality in building the earlier models.
I had an ET4 125cc much older and not a spot of rust on that.
I’ve had one a decade ago. Bought it new. Within two years, the exhaust rotted away, even to the extent the exhaust fell off on the freeway. I then bought a Leovince exhaust, which had a great sound. As an experienced motorcycle rider, I had difficulty getting used to the small wheels. I also kept dragging the side stand in left corners. I did appreciate the solid metal fairing and body. Hardly any plastic on the scooter. Breaking was very mediocre. Mileage was great, over 30 kilometers per liter. Top speed wasn’t too bad either, 140 on the speedometer. I bought a large windscreen, but eventually cut some 10 centimeters off from the top because in fog I couldn’t see anything. I also found the wheels and metal parts of brakes to wear when riding in winter. It was stalled in my garage every day, yet, the paint from calipers already started flaking off. The wheels were discoloring too, probably due to road salt. I enjoyed how nimble it felt in heavy traffic and how quick it was, the exhaust making a deep roar. The police had once mistaken me for a moped, which was hilarious. The female police officer directed me on a mobile dynabank in order to measure its power and I kept politely telling the lady that she better not ask me to do this because my scooter would wreck the machine, which made her even more angry because she thought I was bragging. Her male colleagues had already spotted the issue but let her fall into the trap and were almost falling to the ground laughing when I finally told the officer that if she’d let me explain and finish my sentence she could have learned that I was riding a motorcycle rather than a moped, with 23 horsepower, which would definitely wreck her dyna machine. She blushed and covered her face when she finally checked and noticed I had a motorcycle license plate. Good fun!
The performance of it is great, love the twist and go. I've always had motorcycles but this is a great all rounder. Ride safe and stay safe. 🛵😀.
You live in sea salt air.
I live in a wet climate and I've never seen a climate with rust like that, it's 100% due to salt.
All motorcycles have exposed oil fillers not just Vespa. Adding covers etc just increases the level of complexity when maintaining it.
Bump starting is gonna be difficult on any machine with fuel injection and CDI ignition. Without power you won't get fuel or enough power to energise the igniter for a spark. put it down to progress and thank Greta.
Stands are required by law to flip up or cut the ignition because so many people ride off with them down and fall off at the first left hand bend. Don't blame Vespa, blame the safety nazis and idiots who leave their stands down and making it enough of a thing the nanny state has to intervene.
if you wanna prevent rust stay away from salt or wash your bike regularly.
I had a vespa gtv 300,it rains alot in seattle.i used wax the shit out of it before rainy season.i had no rust on it at.not even underneath.wax all metal parts on any scooter.
Yeh good idea but if it’s second hand and hasn’t been treated it’s a big problem. But we shouldn’t have to do this, I’ve got a VW Van and don’t lay under it waxing it all the time!
Ride safe 🛵
I agree with you on all points, especially price. I had a GT125l a few years back and I took her out all year round. She was a constant trouble due to rust. So much so that the next scooter I bought was all plastic fairings and virtually maintenance free.
Prices are crazy, can buy a small car for the same!
Japanese Engineering and Italian Design must be come together , then it would be a perfect Vespa 😁
Adige65 Abzakh Good idea
there is nothing wrong with Italian Engineering they build Hondas in Italy
@@Slowbiker1957 I think Honda collect all the best engineers in Italy and now Piaggo have to work with bad engineers 😂 I am joking .
Can you explain me why Piaggo can't built a scooter engine what have not the similar power like a Honda or Yamaha?I drove the Vespa 300 GTS and I like the Design but with 279 cubic Engine i had a power like a Japanese 125 cubic Scooter ,even the Piaggio Liberty 350 is not like a Yamaha 300 X max or a Honda Forza or sh 300! Because of this I wrote this ,I like Vespa s design ,for me it is a Scooter with the best Design but the Engines are horrible and I feel me more safe with my Yamaha X max 300 when I drive in the highway with 120 km/h.
With my Vespa I did not feel good after 100 km/h and it is not possible to take a motorcycle helmet in the helmet box from Vespa but in the helmet box of the Yamaha X Max I can put 2 motorcycle helmets .
No, the Vespa has to be completely defined in Italy, otherway it's not a Vespa.
.... change country and moto
Those are ALL legitimate gripes. Tip: Get a Honda or Yamaha scooter & put your worries behind you !
Europeans since 90s and their quality is declining europe is not Europe anymore
I have two Vespa Gts' and there is absolutely nothing I hate about them.
I agree about the side stand. My brother found it taking a nap more than once.
spay it with protective rubber coating unterneath before ot start to rust, you can glue some rubber sheet over the unprotected part of oil filter , sidestand live with it helmet bay = another tub inside with glassfibercomposit
I don't think I would be happy to pay extra for an upper shelf scooter from brand with decades of experience and to be later forced to fix on my own such clumsy engineering and even won't be able to fit an original helmet in a place designated for it.
I just removed the side stand. It would also scrape on corners so off it came
Jason DeMel Wow you do get low in the corners! Yeh it's so bad it's laughable. Glad to have helped. Thanks for visiting my Channel, please subscribe if you found this useful, would really appreciate it. Have a great week and ride safe.
By modern standards this is piss poor build quality and design.
It's very annoying to beg everybody to subscribe to your channel, in every single comment!!!
νικος γιώργος Actually I'd never thought about it until you mentioned it. Please su.....o wait. I'll check out what other channels do. Have a good week.
Ive came to this video a few times, but i think im finally getting a used one if its a good one .....
They are amazing to ride and look ace, just check the underside thoroughly
you can jump start the GTS just use one of the available power packs or even standard jump leads, you cannot bump start it which is what I think that you mean, you could push any automatic vehicle from John O' Groats to Lands End & you will not get it to start I think this is true of any auto vehicle. Have to say had my 2008 250 GTS from new & I love it..:)
Yeh I keep a set of jump leads under the seat as it let me down once. I think I put ignition on but left it 5 mins whilst I got ready and the battery drained from the silly headlight which comes on as soon as you turn on the ignition. I do love my Vespa (hence the other video). Please subscribe if you can, would really appreciate it. Have a great weekend and thanks for visiting my channel. Lurgs
I owned 2007 GTS250 for 6.5 years and put 20,000 miles on it before I sold it end of 2015... two most things I hate about my GTS was the passenger pegs position and undersea storage too narrow and won't let my helmet go in.... than that... one of best scooter I ever owned!
Mitch's Scooter Stuff Yeh passenger foot pegs are annoying. Love your new channel graphic, very cool. Have a great week.
The only thing Italian now it seems is the name.
My #1 thing I hate about Vespas is having the gas tank under the seat. It spills, and it ruins using the pillion for storage if you go on longer trips or camping. The Piaggio BV 350 has the gas tank on the floor and there's no reason they couldn't do that for Vespas as well. As to the helmets, when I was in Italy I almost never saw anyone wearing a full-face helmet (which is too bad). That's why Piaggio doesn't seem to care about this.
I've never spilled my petrol, maybe you are over filling it. I agree on helmet storage, annoying coz my old Piaggio ET4 125cc could store a full face helmet under the seat. Although it has bad points I do enjoy the ride. Ride safe and have a great Christmas. 🎄
Thanks for sharing this! I cannot believe the helmet and the rust issue. 100 years in business and they cannot get these things right? Unbelievable.
Glad it was useful. Check out my other video about things I love about it, it balances it up. Ride safe.😎🛵
About to buy a vesper in Hong kong, but have no idea what to get. It's just for going from the apartment to my school...10 mins each way.
Not sure what the restrictions are but any 125cc should be great. Just make sure it's been looked after
Agree about the rust issue. That’s the main reason I changed it for the Beverly 350 which with large wheels and no corrosion problems is by far the better bet. Great for A round touring. 70 MPG and no mechanical issues in 6 years of ownership. Rock steady riding that beats anything in traffic including most other bikes. 16 inch front wheel and wide 14 inch rear.
You just sold me on the Beverly 400. Thanks buddy!
These aren't just little niggles these are terrible design features and poor build quality.... Was thinking of getting 1 but after watching this I'll not bother...
Glad my video helped. It's a beautiful looking machine and rides ace but the build quality is questionable. I watched it rot underneath and everyone said you should treat it etc.. But why should we have to? I've got a VW Van and I don't expect to lay under that every year and treat it with rust proof stuff.
@@LurgsHowToGuides absolutely agree and it's not just vespa that have gone down hill in quality most Jap bikes have as well. I've seen 12k bikes that are still in warranty' that have rust and shoddy looking rear shocks flakey paint and other cosmetic issues. Yet a 17 year old honda blackbird that has been well maintained but still used and ridden looks amazing compared to modern Honda's. Everything is built to a price point these days and plenty of machines are well overpriced for what you get. The little vespa at it's price should have a oil filter guard and a thick stone chip paint on the underside' a stronger side stand and the helmet issues are shocking... All of which could be sorted for peanuts' a lovely looking bike with an iconic design but sadly the build quality is very poor in some key areas..
You have a imitation oil filter installed. They give often problems with leaking oil. The problem may is solved when you install a original oil filter.
That was the one that came with it (I bought the Vespa 2nd hand). I've since changed the Oil and Oil filter.
yes had the same problem stick to original Vespa parts
You're right, the price is way too high, the company is greedy and taking too much money from low-enders such as myself.
It is a great ride but very expensive
I like the Vespa, don’t like your sandals and 3 quarter trousers lol
I certainly would never wear that riding my Vespa!
Excellent video thanks. Hi from Brisbane Australia 👍
You probably won’t have rust problems there though! Safe riding to you 🛵
@@LurgsHowToGuides it's sunny and dry probably minimum 250 days a year. Motorcycle riding heaven. Take Care 🦘
Toying with the idea about buying a Vespa... perhaps a “little” less now.
Thanks for a VERY informative video.
At least now if I do decide on actually getting one.. I’ll know of a few more items to keep an eye on.
Be safe.
Carl Rivera Yeh, check out the Love Vespa vid as well which balances it out. It's a great ride but deffo worth checking underneath! Glad to have helped. Thanks for visiting my Channel, please subscribe if you found this useful, would really appreciate it. Have a great weekend and ride safe.
I've had one for 13 years and 50,000 miles as my city bike and I don't regret it at all. I've been slowly modifying brakes and suspension as needed, and now it'll rip through corners like my XR650R supermotard. These are amazing bikes and I'd replace mine with another in an instant. Cheers.
Wouldn't it be nice if they used stainless steel, then you never have to deal with rust.
Indeed it would !
Totally agree with you
Wow. Thank you. I came so close to buying one.
Glad my video helped you make a decision. Not sure what newer models are like. Whatever you do buy, ride safe. 🏍
2013 GTS300, Has been perfect... Had a 2006 Granturismo, put 20k miles on it...was perfect also....
Cheers for the info. Went out on mine yesterday and was smiling, it rides Ace.
Then why did you buy one? You could have bought two chinese noname bikes.
Michael Soprani I'm starting to wonder! It I've also got my Vespa Love video so it's not all bad.
This is how I imagine Italian technology. I never liked this vespa pede look, but I would not expect it is so badly made.
BATTERY problems on a two WHEELER ?? .. tell me about it. !! Just TODAY i LOST one of those tiny battery contact screws . And i was lucky to have 1 REPLACEMENT screw or I would have been SCREWED ! The darn thing just fell into the bike and yeah .. its somewhere in there now..
7thSmurf Oh dear. Glad you got it fixed. Not heard of that before.
Vespas are expensive and the frames should be galvanized before painting them. A new Vespa costs about 1/3 the price of a medium size car. The Italians failed miserably in the auto market because of the junk unreliable cars they offered. Now they are asking for a $7000 for a toy that does not worth more than half the price. How much it really cost to galvanize the frame in a mass production bike? Few dollars. This is the truth.
Yeh it's very expensive and not great quality components
The Italians didn't really fail on the cars they offered. I mean look at ferarri, lamborghini, maserati....
I sold all my Ferrari’s and Lamborghini’s as they were a bugger to start in the English winter, so got a Vespa instead.🤣😎
The dipstick “problem” is easy, just buy an aftermarket dipstick that requires a spanner to open. The oil filler “problem” is no different to most other bikes and is solved by adding a few strips of foam tape as protection, and the short mudguard “problem” is solved with a £4.99 mudflap and as for the rust well it’s a Vespa, polish it more and use anti rust regularly BEFORE it rusts. iv got a 2007 gts250 with no rust, why? Because its polished weekly and has had MANY coats of rust protecter over the years.and as for it can’t be bump started, it’s an automatic scooter, no auto can’t be bumpstarted it’s not a Vespa thing.
Seems you have had to look VERY VERY hard to find problems that aren’t actually problems.
Hence why I also made my other video 'Things I love about my Vespa GTS 300'. Rust is my biggest gripe. Shouldn't have to do it. My VW T5 is 10 years old unmarked and it gets used all the time in all weathers. My Vespa is garaged and barely sees rain.
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A friend of mine bought a brand new gts last August and has had it back to the dealer with 4 separate issues, not very impressive for the price, it's completely put me off going for vespa.
Yes they are very expensive, they do look ace but not sure about quality for the price.
Vespa is a cool idea. However, From what I've seen, are you are going to ride the crap out of it or just play with it once in a while.
If riding it and putting some real miles in, get a Japanese scooter. I never see any Vespa with any real miles on them. They seem to be maintenance pigs . Someone please tell me if I'm wrong. Vespa does tic the box on best looking though.
I did 56,000kms on my 250.
No, it's sad, but You're right. When I was in Rome, I find the Italians almost riding one scooter: Honda SH 150.
Rather informative, and very good to know for all current and future Vespa owners. Thanks for doing this.
Athan Datu Glad the info helped. Check out my other video on things I love about it, that balances it up a bit. Have a great weekend and thanks for visiting
Oil filter.
Easily accessed = too exposed
Protected = can’t be accessed
No helping some people
I have a vespa sprint 50cc I restored it because after only 4 years of riding it was full of rust! I have a video of the restauration on my channel.
Nilo Franssen Thanks, I'll check that out later. Thank you. So happy to have helped. If you would like more How To tips like this video then please subscribe, I am always posting new Videos to help you save ⏱TIME and 💰 MONEY. Have a great week and thanks for visiting my Channel. I really appreciate it. Lurgs.
@@LurgsHowToGuides I already subscribed to your channel I hope you like my restoration video!
Regarding the oil filter, you must have been really unlucky. I changed my oil for the first time after 7 years of ownership (yes I know bad Vespa owner!) I only did 2000 miles in that time but it was horribly corroded but never leaked
I'm very unlucky, it's my lot in life! Ride safe 😎
What a moan. I've had a 250GTSie and 300GTS riding 80,000kms in total. The only thing that annoyed me was the rust issue and the No mention of idle / stalling issues though.
Who cares about the helmet storage are you really going to leave it in there or worse still clipped to the side? Oil filter - never an issue never even considered. Fusebox - really how often do you change one.
They are a great scooter.
Think the rust issue could be easily delt with ,clean it down and
apply the stuff they put under cars
Firstly you were really unlucky with the oil filter.
Your spot on about the dipsticks it's about time all bikes have them in a secure non tamper place
My 07 GTS 250 is growing on me it's a pig to fuel up without the aid of a little plastic funnel
No underside rust issue but then again it's only done 5k dry miles
I am a lambretta lover but for a modern scoot I think they are the best on the road ok there are the cheaper ting-tong scoots and I do like the Scomadi but the engines
aren't a patch on the piaggio.
dinkydaz67 It is a lovely ride but the build quality underneath is poor. Thanks for checking out my channel and ride safe
The wheels, the maintenance, The electrics., The suspension, When my GTS dies I'm back to my P2.
@@marineboy4181 It sucks houses eh? That`s weird lol
@@mjh5437 LOL it's sling meaning homie bro friend or whatever you want to call the LOL you must be a foreigner.? Eh
Flushing the splashed acid rain off the bottom with hose after rainy days might help.
Yeh but I don't have to do that with my VW Van!
@@LurgsHowToGuides
Still better to shower your VW van after raining to wash the acid rain of your door rim.
Italian know how build a pile of junk with expensive price
Kawasaki have a 300cc scooter now that makes more sense.
Vespa n est pas fait pour les anglais pour les latins😊 soleil pas de rouille
True!☀
Curious why the ‘Martini’ stickers
I always loved the old F1 white cars with Martini livery on, think it was Brabham but can't remember.
Forget riding, I just wanna look at it
Yeh it does look nice.
I don't like full face helmets anyway, too claustrophobic. I recognise that some have a problem with rust but I had a dragon red GTS. I sold it lat year and it was five years old and no sign of rust anywhere. I didn't like the side stand either and considered taking it off. I don't think side stands have anyplace on scooters. The main issue I had with the GTS was the passenger foot pegs, real heal trappers. I bought the foot rest extensions from SIP scooters, they work great but at £120 very expensive. I don't like the modern trend to use foot pegs on scooters either, it's a scooter not a motor bike and the floor should be extended rearwards.
Oh yeh good point. When I took a pillion those footpegs really do get in the way. They could have just extended the footwell backwards instead of putting footpegs on it. I had a 13 year old Vespa ET4 with no Rust so it's not good. Side stand is horrendous as you say. Thanks for your comment and please subscribe if you can, would really appreciate it. Have a great week and thanks for visiting my channel, and ride safe. Lurgs
The thing that I don't like about those foot pegs is if you have a passenger their feet are up against the back of your legs. It's just not designed correctly to have a passenger.
Jimbo Baggans Yeh they look flash folding out but aren't very practical
I have a dragon red GTS 150 and also didn't find any signs of rusting. Although I wonder if it has to do with the factory where the bike is assembled, as Vespas sold in Asia are mostly assembled in Vietnam and the GTS300s here also have no rust problem.
As for the side stand, well tilting isn't that much of an issue for me but I think it needs a locking mechanism where it "clicks" and locks when you put the side stand down. The very same GTS 150 was borrowed by a friend and the side stand managed to fold back up, which left my friend in surprise finding my GTS laying down on it's side.
I bet an automotive under coating product will help protect your Vespa from rust, but I'm not sure if it will damage paint. Blaster makes a product in an aerosol can called Surface Shield. I know it's available in the US, but not sure about other countries.
Good vid. Maybe cut a shield out of thin aluminium & silastic it onto the front exposed half of the oil filter ? Light & easy to do & its a barrier.
Good idea. Suprised the oil filter doesn't have one built around it, seems such a poor design to me.
a Jump Start is not possible with Scooters at all. Because no Clutch.(not manual)
Rust?.... Pass!!!
You can’t bump start any bike or car with an automatic transmission, it’s not a Vespa design fault.
As for the dipstick being on show and worrying that some “unknown” is going to fill your engine with sand or sugar well all I can say to that is you have a serious paranoia problem, that or you have clearly upset too many people.
True
😳Jumpstarting an injection engine? For real........🤣
Yes you can jump start it
You can jump start an injection or carbed scooter. All you do is take the transmission case off. Use a drill with a correct size bolt on the variator and spin the drill closewise. It'll eventually start once the drill gets to full rpm. Lol😂
I sure couldn't afford one new.
Very very expensive !
Every scooter I know only starts if you pull one of the breaks, it must be an EU law. Also scooters side stands always automatically spring back. I don't know why they don't do it like on motorbikes. They are however more trustworthy than you think. My Explorer 125 (120 KG) dropped twice on the main stand because it was rusted through. It never dropped on the side stand though and even withstood wind force 11 - I don't know how this is possible. Having no kickstarter is a pity though. My Piaggio doesn't start anymore at -12C in winter if it was in the open. My Explorer still starts by kickstart at those temperatures. Helmets don't fit in either of my scooters, too. Maybe Italiens and Asians just have smaller heads :)
Turin Turanbar Great info, thanks. Please subscribe if you found this useful, would really appreciate it. Have a great week.
Electric start is for safety reason.kickstarter make no sense on ie bikes.u always need a battery to start up and all ie parts such as ecu pump injector.
I love my new Vespa (and I live in England). Within the first two weeks, I painted the Vespa's under-side with a road-grit protection product from Hammerite.
Great idea. Mine was 2nd hand unfortunately.
good video, new sub
Thank you. Ride Safe. 🏍😎
Başlığı Türkçe görünce okuduğuma inanamadım zira bizde 60 bin tl verip scooter aldıktan sonra kendisinden nefret etmeyi bırak odaya koyup seyreder insan. Neyse ki translate başlıkmış.
Number 7: it’s called a 300 when it’s 278cc... it’s a great machine but that drives me crazy lol
True and in fact it's virtually no different in speed to the 250cc version. Marketing blurb saying it's a 300
Please. Advice. .......is. Vespa. Premivera. Suitable. For. A. Man. Who. Is. Over. 6. Feet. In. Height. !!! Thanks. !!!
Abdul Waseh Yeh no problem. The dual seat is so long so you can sit further back. Wind at high speed might be an issue but should be fine.
The flimsy side stand must be an Italian thing. My friend's Ducatis all want to fall over with the slightest nudge.
I have a 2019 GTS300 and an Et4 125 from 2000. love them both
I do love the ride, the engine is the best part of it (and the looks).
piaggio is garbage. gilera also
I hate 2 typhoon 125cc a skipper 150cc and a beverly 300. never ever ever will I buy one.
Royal Alloy GP 200 it the best.
Your joking!!!! Vespa's aren't perfect but there build quility is head and shoulders better that RA or Scomadi
s0rry piaggi0 is 10 years ag0 m0vent t0 chinese quality standarts
d0n't agree?? start taking a piaggi0 after 2010 apart and a h0nda 0r yamaha bike and if u d0nt see this u sh0uld keep driving a piaggi0 and keep having maintence alltime anyday g00d luck selling 0r breaking d0wn
Brilliant video. Not just an informercial for Vespa. These are real issues to think about. Has Vespa improved these issues since this video was posted 4 years ago?
I’m not sure as I don’t keep an eye on the new models, but brand new Vespas are very expensive so I would hope they have fixed the issues. The rust underneath still makes me angry now
And 7: The speedometer does not point at Zero when stationary. That is actually even remarkable to see on something this expensive, it would flipped me out I can say, and also mean that it show the wrong speed.
It does show the correct speed as the Speedometer only starts moving when it reaches that speed, it doesn't start moving straight away. But yeh I agree it's a bid odd when stationary.
@@LurgsHowToGuides Ok it show the right speed, at least that is good.
This is because the speed-sensor is at the rear wheel, which is spinning, when the scooter is on the main stand and idling with cool engine. My Burgman's did it too.
Sounds like you need rhino liner. And you need to know how to tighten your oil filter properly. Probably some things you’re not doing yourself knowing the problems.
I am sorry I did not see this earlier, I might have saved you from your misery...
1. Here is a solution to the helmet in the underseat area:
Pull the storage bin OUT of the Vespa. Put your helmet into the storage bin-SQUEEZE it in there.
Push the storage bin back into the waiting Vespa. You will have to compress the sides a bit, but it will fit.
If you want to protect the sides of your helmet, use a bit of cloth or plastic on the contact points.
For those who want to hang the helmet from the stub under the seat, carry a heavy duty plastic bag to cover your helmet.
2. Add a front fender skirt, and paint the seams of the underbody with a clear coating, epoxy or acrylic or whatever.
3. Cover the oil filter with a cylindrical sleeve. Easy to manufacture yourself. Bob's your Uncle, Clyde. It might be best to use a mesh
screen material and give it a couple of wraps-around. That preserves the air-cooling of the oil, which may or may not matter.
4. If you carry some tools, can't you open the battery cover and access the battery? If you really are worried about this you could
permanently attach two leads from the battery and run them back into the engine bay and secure them.
When you need a jump because you have not been monitoring your battery health, you can use those leads under the seat.
5. Buy a used Vespa, there should be enough around for sale.
I skipped the side stand & oil fill, because a) I don't have that stand and b) I don't have wankers looking to sabotage my life.
There are accessory filler caps that require a tool, so you might try that.
May your misery abate.
All good points except for most of us with the larger heads/helmets. I got the Daytona because it was thinner. It fits down in the Pet Carrier just fine, BUT the seat won't close because the helmet still sits too high. I have 18 helmets and the only one that fits under the seat is my half helmet. My wife's helmets will fit though. I wear XXL or XXL depending on the brand of helmet.
Your solution to just carry a plastic bag is practical. However, the person(s) that want it under the seat aren't looking for alternatives (usually) but solutions to make it fit.
Anyhoo, valid points all and thanks for the post for those that need show/tell to help out.
I've just watch your video with interest and what you say is true. I've been a Piaggio mechanic for over 10 years and the bike could be improved. You pointed out the rust problem, take the plastic foot guard off and see what's going off under there. Give it plenty of wax oil then replace the plastic. Basically there a good bike, just needs care and attention. Oh, that thing about the oil filter, now days a lot of bikes have a similar problem, one to mention is the Honda Fire Blade. Stone comes off the front tyre and straight through the filter, it's amazing how the stone gets past the mud guard, the belly pan and the exhaust pipes but it does. Anyway enjoy your Vespa.
The Rust issue and the Oil Filter exposure are the biggest issues for me. Ok I'll have a look under the plastic foot guards, thanks for that. Great tip and thanks for the comment, really appreciate it. Have a great weekend.
@@LurgsHowToGuides no problem, if you do your own maintenance, make sure you keep the slide pins well greased on the Blake calipers, another seizure point.
@Gary Dodgson hello, the mud guard extender would slow down the rusting problem but the oil filter being on the right side of the engine would be harder too protect, as you said the average DIY mechanic in his shed might have problems fabricating a shield. Plus depending how it were made perhaps the changing of the filter may become harder than it already is. In my time as a Piaggio mechanic, and serviced many Vespa's it's not that common for the filter to get punctured. There made of really thick metal and too hole one you must be extremely unlucky. I've seen more that's rusted through owing to the lack of maintenance.
@Gary Dodgson that's a good idea, using a piece of PVA pipe, its how it would cope with the heat. You travel 20 to 30 miles them put your hand on the oil filter, I think plastic in contact with the engine would struggle. Its just maddening that you have to modify your vehicle because the manufacturer wants to save a penny here and there. The thing that really got me was the tie wraps. They snip them off any old how, then I'd PDI the scooter and get my hands and arms cut to pieces. Its amaising how they can't us square end snips, they use side cutters, so if you have to put your hands near the engine on a Vespa or other scooter take care. ☹
Also the passenger foot pegs are horribly placed. With passengers foot on them its difficult for the driver to place his legs normally at a stop. Also no hazard lights button... Would be easy and very little cost but why not have that on??
Yeh hazards is a great idea. Yes agree on foot pegs, when I have a pillion I find my feet pushed right forwards.
I hate the side stand. I never use it and it always scrapes the road when I turn. I’ve also never found a flat place to park, so for the love of Christ why Is it there!? I have to get one of those over priced winter blankets that snap onto the bike to keep my helmet dry 😂 or drag it into work where it never seems to have a place to go. As far as price I actually did just sell my 2012 ford escape for the same amount of money that I just spent on the 2022 GTS 300 super hpe but even though I think that’s insane I’m still freakin excited to get the latest model. The real tragedy is the new shed I had to buy to fit all the bikes lol I’m sure there will be one in my dining room by next year 😂
Nice. Sounds like you like motorcycles, here is my list of ones I've owned so far, might interest you, might not. ruclips.net/video/R5O5CT6rLCg/видео.html
Do you got any suggestions for me ,I am going to buy aprilia standard 160 on december (christmas eve ). Kind enough to reply .From kerala,India. I liked your keen eye for fault finding.Hope you see this before christmas.❤️❤️❤️❤️
That looks like a nice motorcycle. If it’s from a dealer make sure you get a warranty, if it’s second hand just check obvious things like underneath and check oil looks nice and clean and that it starts from cold.
Design flaw? On a Vespa? Sacre bleu! I mean Mamma Mia!
Nilo Baranda Mamma Mia Too!
Design flaws is a nonsense
You are so cool, you look like Eric Clapton.
I was considering buying a Vespa
But knowing the negative features of the Vespa that you told me about.
I am a little disappointed.
I think a scooter made in Japan or in Taiwan would be a better choice.
But I think the Vespa is a beautiful motorcycle!
It's worth also watching my other video The things I love about my Vespa GTS300 as it's not all bad. It is a lovely beast to ride and plenty of power. I wish I was even 5% as rich as Eric Clapton! 😎
Cool opinion
Thanks. It has good points as well. Ride safe. 😎🛵
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I finally just got my 2021 gts hpe supper and I can honestly say I didn’t expect to hate anything but i do, im back here to say that’s i hate the seat. True deep hatred. It’s so uncomfortable compared to the shape of the 08’ 250 ie. a friend of mine just got the same bike 2018 and hers has the older comfy seat. I’m thinking of getting it shaved down. I also hate how they changed the shape of the front so that none of the pre 2020 front racks can be used on the bike and you have to drill into the Front cover . I hate the seats so much I’m actually riding my older vespas 😂 however you might like the fact that I cannot seem to find the oil dip stick so there did hide that away lol.
Maybe the seat will wear in over time, it will be hard if it’s brand new. Thanks for the info, I’ll be keeping my 2013 GTS300 for now. Ride safe.🛵
Thank you.
Hope my video helped. Safe riding to you 🛵
I'm running a 2006 GTS 250 and find some disappointing things. I'm unconcerned about helmet storage, side stands, or the price. But I do wish it was easier to jump-start the scooter if the battery dies. My solution is to carry a small Anti-Gravity lithium battery with me. I've only had to use it once in winter when the scooter sat outside all day with the temperature near 0F. And as a year-round rider in snow and salt, I've had to have the underside sandblasted and repainted.
Despite these things, I love the GTS I have and won't hesitate to replace it with a new one when it dies.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the scooter. I'll have to check out the one with things you love!
Yes it's not all doom and gloom as you will see in my other video. Ride safe dude. 🏍😎
I also have a gts 300 from 2010 and i hate and love her for the same reason.
Wow, I came in here thinking that it's about 5 personal preferences, but turns out that these are major deal breakers for me
It’s a fabulous ride but that rust is a big problem, if you do view one have a good look underneath
you are totally right mate , the price is so expensive if you compare it to the quality , there is no space to put the helmet hahaha , and the side stand is so weak the rust spreads quickly dawn the vehicle ans then the vespa is to to low very close to the ground making the rims bigger will be much better
I have owned lots of piaggio products, but not any more. I dont like fact that almost everything these days is made in china. Thats why I sold everything and bought yamaha. Sorry, but vespa is just brand and design now. No sign of quality anymore!
Kiki X Cheers. I've got a stainless steel electric radiator in my bathroom and that's going rusty, again poor quality steel. Please subscribe if you can, would really appreciate it. Have a great week and thanks for visiting my channel. And ride safe.
Everything is made in china even ur yamaha.piaggio liberty are nice bikes even 50cc and bigger ones.it comes with a nice look and has also vespa dash but not this old ugly one.
1. The Vespa sold in Asia are assembled in Vietnam.
2. The yamaha Xmax sold in Indonesia as well as in Europe are made here in Indonesia.
3. Not all things built in China are "low quality". Take iPhones for example.
4. Informative video. Thanks.
indra s thank you. Please subscribe if you can. Cheers.
I think you find that most scooters are built in India and other asian countries ( in the west we don't want to pay for quality .then complain that manufacturing in the west is dying )
Bought a bargain 2008 model last week with 30k miles for less than 2000 euro because the dude needed the money but it was looked after. Not much rust, wasnt abused, didnt burn any oil, and it was from a reset CVT service with genuine piaggio parts.
Frankly i can live with all 6 of them!
Money wasnt an issue, i find the sidestand is the best quality side stand i ve ever had on a scooter, all the rest retracted too fast while this one is smooth and this makes it just better overall.
The engine is shared across multiple scooters so the oil filter location is kind of an "it is what it is" situation. The dipstick issue is true for every bike on the road today, if someone is out to get you and you ride a bike, he will.
Lastly, to be honest, there hasnt been a kickstart 300cc scooter in decades, thats a problem people have been dealing with every scooter everyday since you cant push start them either. If money is not an issue, there are some very compact, usb charged battery boosters that work for cars and also bikes. You can get one and keep it on the vespa for a modern solution to this problem. The one im personally familiar with from my job is the size of a modern phone, has also got a magnet and flashlight, so you can even work in the dark if you get stranded somewhere
The one thing I found is they do ride amazing and plenty of power. Ride safe 🛵👍
Holy vespa crap. It is bad.!!!
i have a 2019 300 touring edition i like it alot. I make reviews about harley davidsons
Mr Reviewer Nice one. You have a lot of reviews on your channel. I'll have a look.