Thank you. I’m not going to commit to a pup I’m afraid, just in case she has a small litter. We’ve all heard the stories of bitches having just one pup.
Both parents were shooting dogs, just one dog on the ESS database appears on her dam side, her 3rd gen sire, Swift Bill of Birdrowe and there are plenty of FTW & FTCH on his pedigree with familiar prefixes such as Rytex and Badgercourt. On her sire side her grand sire was Whitcott Dash and her grand dam was Flashing Briar of Pierglin. Whitcott Dash’s grand sire was a FTW, but you have to go back several gens to find FTWs and FTCH. You would have to go a long way back to find inbreeding.
I wouldn’t know enough about the breed to know that there is a difference. How would you distinguish between the two? She has very little trial breeding in her first 4 gens, but she got a super nose and drive from her parents as well as her obedience and willingness to work for me. Surely if an experienced trial handler had trained her from a pup she would have made a trial dog?
So thinking behind it is that old type springers were bred to hunt as long as they were required to (all day as lads will tell you). But the trialling is based on 5-10 mins of huge bursts of energy and style. With long breaks in between, resulting in dogs with low stamina. Your bitch seems to have lots of style and drive and stamina. It would be lovely to see pups from her and an old style dog. I’m not sure how to pm on here to point you in the right direction. 😬
@larchgroveelectrical1023 thanks for that. I suppose the fear of using an unknown sire and not a known trial dog would be that there wouldn’t be the same interest in the pups. It’s hard to know what to do. She’s due in season next month, so I’ll have to make a decision.
Cracking wee dog that . Poor pheasants must have trench foot its that boggy . Great video
Unbelievably wet winter and hence a poor year on birds.
I have a very well bread sire here, he’s extremely hard hunting and the old style springer I am looking for a pup back and she looks very good
Thank you. I’m not going to commit to a pup I’m afraid, just in case she has a small litter. We’ve all heard the stories of bitches having just one pup.
That's a well trained dog. You asked about potential sires.What way is she bred?
Both parents were shooting dogs, just one dog on the ESS database appears on her dam side, her 3rd gen sire, Swift Bill of Birdrowe and there are plenty of FTW & FTCH on his pedigree with familiar prefixes such as Rytex and Badgercourt. On her sire side her grand sire was Whitcott Dash and her grand dam was Flashing Briar of Pierglin. Whitcott Dash’s grand sire was a FTW, but you have to go back several gens to find FTWs and FTCH. You would have to go a long way back to find inbreeding.
I know and have that breeding and could definitely help out with choosing a suitable sire
Are you looking to put her to an old type springer or something a bit more trial bred?
I wouldn’t know enough about the breed to know that there is a difference. How would you distinguish between the two? She has very little trial breeding in her first 4 gens, but she got a super nose and drive from her parents as well as her obedience and willingness to work for me. Surely if an experienced trial handler had trained her from a pup she would have made a trial dog?
So thinking behind it is that old type springers were bred to hunt as long as they were required to (all day as lads will tell you). But the trialling is based on 5-10 mins of huge bursts of energy and style. With long breaks in between, resulting in dogs with low stamina.
Your bitch seems to have lots of style and drive and stamina. It would be lovely to see pups from her and an old style dog.
I’m not sure how to pm on here to point you in the right direction. 😬
@larchgroveelectrical1023 thanks for that. I suppose the fear of using an unknown sire and not a known trial dog would be that there wouldn’t be the same interest in the pups. It’s hard to know what to do. She’s due in season next month, so I’ll have to make a decision.