A rule of thumb I have on this channel is that I am not loyal to any one platform, my entire goal is to talk honestly about the updates, changes, and way platforms are evolving. Twitch released a series of updates, some good, and some bad. Let's talk about how they're trying to compete you RUclips.... oh and no, I am not going to cover drama updates on this channel unless I feel creators can learn something of value to make them a better creator from it. 🕘Timestamps: 0:00 Twitch are finally releasing updates 1:17 Twitch's New Research Tools and How to use them 3:18 Twitch's new Clip converter tool, and should you use it? 3:40 Special Guest Sponsor Segment! 4:40 How To Start making Short Format content as a Streamer 9:55 How Twitch just solved Small Streamer Growth and Ads 12:48 You need to use Twitch's new Alert tool!
Something Dr K from HealthyGamer said at twitchcon that has really stuck with me: "Platforms will always simply give you the data that is easiest for them to give you, not what is the most useful or relevant to you." Even more specific data requires a lot of context and wisdom to actually pull relevant lessons or actionable tasks from.
I used to have streamelements alerts for my first 2 years of streaming, now after changing my direction of my channel in a major way, I moved over to twitch alerts that are way less intrusive than the ones I had before. Twitch really made it user-friendly and I give them my thumbs up for that. However... the ads were getting on my nerve. I have decided to switch to pre-roll ads only, while during my breaks, i would play a long ad to disable pre-roll for an hour. I hated being stuck by a 30 or 60min schedule of being "forced" to do a break so people don't miss out on content. Now, I can also give the audience who are already watching my stream have a better experience. I'm glad they brought the preview back :)
You're just the best, I appreciate the timeliness of your videos so much. I had just downloaded some vods to comb through for clips to share in short format (I am the worst about getting clips) and wondered if I should have used the new clip converter, but after seeing this video, I'm so glad I didn't bother. I'll just edit them in my own editing software as originally planned. I also haven't checked out the alerts yet, but I really like what I saw here, so maybe I'll switch from using the SE ones to the Twitch ones instead. Thanks for always being on top of Twitch updates!
Honestly for clip editing, I just resorted to using my video editing software instead of some dumbed-down online editor. Sure, combo is great for a quick edit here and there - and definitely the best site out there - but it is still a lot more limited than what I want and it also bugged out on me quite a few times. Learning to make clips by myself was definitely a slow process in the beginning, but after a few months, I've got the workflow down and have set up a lot of templates that cut the time I spend down by a good deal.
I think you've misunderstood. Obviously you should use actual editing software, but beginners don't have that privilege to start with it, so this tool helps them to learn while they build up to it.
@@StreamScheme Fair point. I think you should include things like that in the actual video, though. People promoting tools like Combo (which is good) and calling it super powerful (which it is), while not even mentioning the more powerful, but complicated tools in at least an addendum, might cause new creators to rely too heavily on them and get stuck. If there's one thing I've taken away from your channel since I started 10 months ago, it's that you should never stop learning and improving.
@@inouji On a normal video about short form I would, but if its a video comparing online clip converters that are being released, or about how to do it as a beginner, I don't see the need often. In this case, if I sat here and compared Twitchs clip converter to editing software, it feels like I'd get comments saying, "wElL oBvIoUslY iT isNt aS goOd"
I made it so when somebody sends !clip, streamer bot toggles my Replay Buffer Safe state and it saves the last 3 mins of my footage in full quality. But it also saves a clip on Twitch, as well... Just for funsies. Works pretty well.
As a growing creator myself, I really like the clip converter cause I'm still learning how to edit, but my main issue with it is that it only lets you use clips. When I am streaming, I'm not making sure I clip things to use later nor are my viewers. So, I usually go back and make highlights, but the clip converter doesn't allow you to make highlights into shorts, which sucks.
hi, you missed that our best quality clips of other streamers will die off and that twitch is bull marketing the ad-free option. we no longer can download clips of other streamers for editing so production of highlight clips by viewers falls to a new low in quality. ad-free users will discover small streams easier while they also lose the inclination to subscribe because of ads. so subs for small streamers may drop off... but they will get new pennies from ad-free revenue share. thanks for this video: small streamers can benefit from the use of alerts and new tutorials on it.
soo heads up to people who don't know u can only make 15 clips in combo within one month unless you pay for the limit to be removed which kind sucks unless they changed it recently which I don't think they did.
I've never had the limit, interesting to see them change it, but to be fair thats a tiktok every 2 days which is recommended for starting out, and the tool is still incredible.
Join combo is nice. I played with it a bit. They still have some work to do. I had some issues with the zoom feature where the play head and clips wouldn't be in the right place on the timeline if I zoomed all the way in. Still, it's the best one of it's kind that I've seen.
for mobile users. I can see why Ads are so annoying, but on pc. I still to this day am flabbergasted ppl get so upset by pre-rolls. if im bored n go on the hunt for a new streamer. I'll just throw open 10 tabs, 10 streamers, go get a glass of water, come back to all the ads on all 10 tabs being done, then watch each one for 10 to 15 minutes to see if its worth sticking around.
Combo has always been how I've done clips, I've recently tried out Twitch's verson and while it is super quick and easy, it just doesn't feel as good. I will always recommend Combo to everyone I see.
I hated having my sound and animated alerts randomly stopping to pop up all the time with stream elements, so sadly i had to go back to streamlabs and it never failed me
I had the exact opposite experience... streamlabs never worked right. But i guess it doesn't matter now as I've moved almost everything to streamer bot for all my streaming platforms.
This is a desperation move and nothing more, because they got caught implementing a policy that is bad for everyone and not only that, Kick is actually doing what twitch should be doing. However kick on the other hand will not be in a good position if they don't capitalize on this.
This is completely incorrect. All these updates came out BEFORE the policy changed, and they take moths to build. Kick are not doing a single thing better than twitch or RUclips. If you think Kick is at all a viable option, then I’m more worried about that. Since ya know, it has no discovery and less viewers than every other platform, worse tools, worse tech, and sponsors refuse to work with it.
@@StreamScheme kind of agree. Kick is already worlds better of a streaming experience than RUclips. It’s viability is based on 2 things, 1) it’s backed by gambling (twitch still allows gambling too but banned specific sites). 2) Kick still uses the same aws services Twitch does without the overhead of running Twitch or reporting revenue to the Amazon insect overlords. So the Twitch people are running those ads because Amazon is making them. When Twitch wants to do anything for the creator, they have to beg Amazon to essentially Rob Peter to pay Paul. Kick doesn’t need to do any of this. Plus, Amazon could care less. They don’t care if kick does well, they get paid either way. Want proof? They would have kicked them off aws. Amazon bought twitch specifically to farm out the twitch stream experience as a service. Anyone can be twitch now. RUclips already gave up improving streaming. They went all in on shorts and now podcasts. Their streaming experience is garbage.
I appreciate the reply but trust me I’m aware of AWS and the gambling, these aren’t wins for Kick. I’m concerned as well because you said they went all in on shorts, but seem to have missed the updates they’ve done that openly connect shorts to lives. The experience I’ve used hasn’t been garbage, it’s just been different to twitch, and after using it a bit I prefer it immensely. RUclips has better tech than kick and twitch now, better discovery because any short view while your life has a big red circle saying live now, browse traffic, search traffic, scheduled streams on your homepage are front and centre with a big “remind me” The only thing that needs work is how the chat flows, otherwise I haven’t found a single reason twitch or kick are better than RUclips. Any update RUclips makes that helps creators grow an audience, helps their streaming tools, and because they chose a different route to help streamers on here grow, people seem to misunderstand how powerful it is.
@@StreamScheme Yeah, but if there comes a time Kick gets people that know what needs to be done to make it much better. On top of that, Twitch losing four people in one way or another is not good. Dr. Disrespect got completely fucked over by Twitch and they have not been transparent about it, even to this day. Ninja has gotten tired of their shit, Amouranth has also jumped ship, which I cant stand her, but she knows how to she plays the game and she played Twitch like a violin and cut their strings when there was a better opportunity. xQc from an article mentions that he has moved on to Kick for a 9 figure deal. So Twitch has lost some major money makers. All in all, you, me and everyone else are just a drop in the bucket on Twitch and as top heavy as Twitch is, especially with the hypocritical ToS they do have, as long a Kick plays their hand right and knows where not to fuck up having more than enough info to use as learning examples and they do what they have to improve, Twitch is going to be in a heap of trouble regardless of what you or I think. Unless someone like George Soros get's involved, Twitch has to find a way to make real money and soon. I am not trying to defend Kick, or have a huge hate boner for Twitch, but I am looking at the writing on the wall. If Twitch does not clean house and actually enforce and reform some of the rules and other aspects that has really tarnished their reputation and keeps screwing us over for just mere words, it's not a question of "if", but "when".
So as a new streamer (and I mean new like less than 10 streams new) I've started off using the new built in alerts system. But... Is there a reason/benefit of jumping over and using Stream Elements instead. Like future proofing?
I don't know what's up with the preview window feature you're talking about, I didn't see it at all last year when you first talked about it and I don't see it now. Regional thing maybe? Or rolled back already lol
Ok, but my streamelements (and streamer bot) can be used for both twitch and youtube, and anything other platform. The alerts look cool, but why would I want to invest time into something that only works on Twitch? (This is a real question, is there really any value to twitch alerts beyond being easy for new streamers who only use twitch?)
As I said in the video, they don’t wipe out the other tools, or make them useless, but they’ve done a great job creating something fast, reliable, and easy to use. I wouldn’t even consider StreamerBot as competition due to the sheer difference in them, streamerbot is it’s own beast. Nothing comes close. Elements though, I’d personally use twitch alerts over elements if I was still on twitch, the integration and consistency has been far better on twitch alerts.
That's some funny stuff. But i didn't followed the story with Twitch. It's the issues with the Sponsors are still a thing ? Or everything got deleted. Because they told us that it was removed, but apparently, that was still on the contract
yoo eljay i started recording my stream to get clips and shit...but when i go to watch them back, the quality of my recording is like negative 360p for half a clip and then 1080p, then 720p, likes its bouncing around the entire time...ergo, cant get a good quality clip. i stream using obs and a capture card through nintendo switch. what can i do to help this?!!!
I want to use Join Combo, and have looked into it before. I use Stream labs OBS can you show us how to get clips from that into the Combo app? What's the best way because I don't use the Twitch Clips tool.
I'm actually more likely to leave a stream when they run mid rolls, missing moments cause of an ad sucks. I didn't mind prerolls cause it was usually a single ad and not 3-5 minute chunks every 30-60 minutes. Eventually got Twitch Turbo when too many streamers moved to mid roll ads.
Everyone’s different :) we found if you had built real discovery, than you lose more viewers from pre rolls than mid rolls, but if nobody is clicking you obviously mid rolls are worse.
A pre roll is still kind of a mid roll if you come into a stream that already running. You're still missing the content that is happening. Personally, because I'm still small and ad revenue is booty cheeks, I turned off ads to help channel growth. I'm not worried about a few bucks a month from ads when they actively deter viewers from hanging out. Offer value elsewhere and give them a reason to sub/drop bits and they will. Though my opinions are probably skewed because I don't have hundreds of viewers per stream.
Hey Austin! You can’t turn ads off mate! I’d go check the settings again, pre rolls are forced on, the setting to turn ads off is just for if you run mid rolls.
Twitch added the new awful policies that affect at least half of streamers' income, and that's why I'm using kick because it's not as strict and has the BS that Twitch is doing, you should at least mention and be honest about that stream scheme
The forced advertisements have basically made me stop watching twitch in general. I have a prime sub, so I maybe watch one channel here and there. The only reason I have to watch someone on twitch now is to leave it on a channel that has twitch drops for a game I play. The channel is minimized, set to the minimum resolution and the window is muted. I only check on it here and there to see if I can claim the drop yet. Trying to browse other channels just to get ad-rolls to come back up is not worth the time.
Can you explain short form content please? I get that it’s addictive and entertaining but there’s no ad revenue so why create it? I guess you get discovered but so many short channels never make long format videos.
RUclips isn’t even a viable streaming option unless you already have a preexisting sub following. No one and I repeat no one, is going through RUclips’s terrible UI and looking for streams to watch. Kick is 100% where it’s at right now. That’s just my opinion though. 😊
Hey, just so you know Kick has less stream viewers at almost all time than RUclips. Nobody goes to kick in search of streams, they only go there if there streamer is already there and moves over, kick has worse discovery than Twitch and worse tools. RUclips has built a system where streams are recommended to people who will like it, and it works. I’d recommend spending more time researching user bases, and how these platforms work, kick will hurt your career long term, and the exact thing you said is bad about RUclips is actually a kick problem, not a RUclips problem.
I have been posting short clips on YT (YT Shorts) and TikTok which I am seeing no traffic routed from these platforms. I get around 1.2-1.3k views on my YT Shorts and around 200-800 views on TikToks. I only post clips that are funny or entertaining and I take my time with them. I don’t just pump out clips for views. What could I be doing wrong?
To be honest, and this isn’t meant to be critical, but at those views you’re not actually making content that’s “good”. Shorts and tiktoks will always get 2000 views of less as a testing period to see if it’s good. If it is good, they’ll get far more views than that. I’d step back, and do more research on what works on both platforms, new video on shorts coming soon as well. But yeah, you’ll want to likely focus on solving your ideas or concepts for each short, and then giving them structure of hook > retention content > pay off,
@@StreamScheme Ah I see. The whole Hook, Retention and Pay off is something I still don’t fully understand/struggle with. I really appreciate your feedback man! Thank you.
As someone who has streamed on twitch for 7 years and had 0 growth for close to 6 years, I'm just not in the twitch camp any more. I've been looking for good reasons to leave for years which was why I went to mixer(beam) for awhile. Sadly, it went away and now I'm back on twitch. Listening to a lot of your other content over the last year, and twitch being twitch, I decided to cut my live streams down from 5 to 2 for twitch. Do 1 stream a week on youtube, and then spend my other 2 days working on long form content, scripts, clips, edits, etc. I've been cutting and setting clips aside so I can release about 2 a day and then we're almost ready to start releasing long form content on youtube. For me the clip editor is a joke. Like you pointed theres better stuff out there that does it right. Joincombo was great when it was free, but now they limit you on how many you can make per month/week or something before needing a membership. Eklipse gg is a good tool as well, though its mostly designed around FPS games, it still works great as an AI bot clipper that can also edit and upload. Though, it isn't as free as joincombo is. Its gimmick is really about its AI tools working well for games like fortnite, valorant, apex, cod, etc. But I've been content using it for Totk/botw.
@@StreamScheme I saw your other replies, and I think most of your concerns can be answered with the fact that Kick is still a small platform and they need to put more time into their algorythms and interface. I switched to Kick last time, and in comparison to Twitch, I had a higher viewerbase in my niche, being 5 viewers average, while as of on Twitch, I max out on 2 viewers.
I appreciate the idea that it is young, but we need to also remember they aren't solving ANY of their issues, and are just pushing their split, and copying mixer. They should spend less time posting campaigns insulting Twitch, and more time trying to actually create a decent service. It's also important to remember Kick doesn't set rules on what counts as a viewer. So every single creator ends up with an inflated view count. And obviously, the fact that their entire site is hosted on AWS, so if Amazon actually felt like they were taking too much, they could just turn off Kick, and thanks to their DMCA and safeharbour issues, they can do that without any repercussions.
@@StreamScheme that is fair. But I don't really have much risk of ending my career when I don't have a large stream viewerbase (ergo it didn't even start), so I'll just see how it goes in the future.
@@CrimeNetArchive As I always say, it's just about diversifying. You'll still need to create content on TikTok and RUclips to get viewers on Kick, since it it has no foot traffic or discovery. So as long as you spread out, and work hard, doesn't matter on the platform.
If you think Kick is at all a viable option, then I’m more worried about that. Since ya know, it has no discovery and less viewers than every other platform, worse tools, worse tech, and sponsors refuse to work with it.
I couldn't imagine basing my decisions as a small creator on what people so large its impossible for them to fail do, especially people not creating or pushing themselves to the next level but are simply looking for the largest pay out on their audience they've built before it was too difficult to grow.
Great tool to start learning! And when you see success or a format that clicks, evolving to use actual editing software and improving your quality goes great!
After five years of grinding away on twitch. Just under 400 followers. And twitch would not even pay me £50. They owed me. After months of emails, I deleted twitch I am done with that service. RUclipsrs, much better. It would be nice if kick comes to consoles, then I can stream straight to kick.
I mean anymore moving to Kick right now isn’t doing it because it’s the right move, they’re doing it because they’re desperate and don’t understand the platform is far worse than twitch.
The end of the day twitch is still garbage. no matter how much they want to frame the conversation why are streamers leaving twitch. you're heading to RUclips and other platforms to stream and also taking their communities with them. Considering how out-of-touch and totally tone-deaf. Twitch is a joke. Wonder why people are laughing at twitch because of how they treat the streamers and content creators on the platform. When other platforms like RUclips pay their streamers and creators substantially a lot better then twitch does. Plus telling people that they're not allowed to multi-stream to other platforms like RUclips essentially creating a "DIGITAL IRON CURTAIN" that is a counter-productive and and detrimental two creators and streamers growth.
This comment feels like you've not really watched my channel before, because you know my rule is to cover the good, the bad, and explain how to use it, no matter the platform. Educating Creators to make choices themselves, rather than pushing my beliefs on them without other options. Sure, I left Twitch, but doesn't mean I'm going to stop educating people on all the different options for them.
If you think Kick is at all a viable option, then I’m more worried about that. Since ya know, it has no discovery and less viewers than every other platform, worse tools, worse tech, and sponsors refuse to work with it.
@@StreamScheme I am totally down with you opinion. Time and effort will show the results in the future. As a new hobby creator I want to give kick a chance. When it dont work ist okay for me.
The alert tool I had a lot of fun with. Some of the gifs are good too. Shorts editing is my next plan, I want to start creating shorts of my streams, since I try to go the route of doing stuff in game that is recreatable by others, let’s you google “Build X in Forza” and a short will come up, at least that’s my plan!
just started my tiktok today and I will say I do enjoy the editing system on the app. I fumbled with it at first but after editing a couple of videos on it it finally clicked. Personally I haven’t done much editing other then the basic stuff you get with iPhones so I am greener then baby feces but I’m hoping I can find a good editing software for shorts AND longform content
A rule of thumb I have on this channel is that I am not loyal to any one platform, my entire goal is to talk honestly about the updates, changes, and way platforms are evolving. Twitch released a series of updates, some good, and some bad. Let's talk about how they're trying to compete you RUclips.... oh and no, I am not going to cover drama updates on this channel unless I feel creators can learn something of value to make them a better creator from it.
🕘Timestamps:
0:00 Twitch are finally releasing updates
1:17 Twitch's New Research Tools and How to use them
3:18 Twitch's new Clip converter tool, and should you use it?
3:40 Special Guest Sponsor Segment!
4:40 How To Start making Short Format content as a Streamer
9:55 How Twitch just solved Small Streamer Growth and Ads
12:48 You need to use Twitch's new Alert tool!
So proud of how much growth this channel has experienced. Stream Scheme linking up with Ninja is pretty huge!
Yeah Twitch ads are unbearable 😂
Something Dr K from HealthyGamer said at twitchcon that has really stuck with me: "Platforms will always simply give you the data that is easiest for them to give you, not what is the most useful or relevant to you." Even more specific data requires a lot of context and wisdom to actually pull relevant lessons or actionable tasks from.
That's very interesting!
Still not managing to beat RUclips in my books! But hey, competition breeds excellence!
I always loving coming back here for takes and advice.
Eljay, can you make a video on what you've learnt around short form content? I'm struggling
It’s coming soon :)
@@StreamScheme excellent!
I used to have streamelements alerts for my first 2 years of streaming, now after changing my direction of my channel in a major way, I moved over to twitch alerts that are way less intrusive than the ones I had before. Twitch really made it user-friendly and I give them my thumbs up for that.
However... the ads were getting on my nerve. I have decided to switch to pre-roll ads only, while during my breaks, i would play a long ad to disable pre-roll for an hour. I hated being stuck by a 30 or 60min schedule of being "forced" to do a break so people don't miss out on content. Now, I can also give the audience who are already watching my stream have a better experience. I'm glad they brought the preview back :)
one thing that combo could really improve with is being able to split with the subtitles like you can with clips - otherwise, a fun tool!
You can right? Just copy and paste it right next to it, and line it up?
@@StreamScheme This makes complete sense! - Will give it a go 👍
You're just the best, I appreciate the timeliness of your videos so much. I had just downloaded some vods to comb through for clips to share in short format (I am the worst about getting clips) and wondered if I should have used the new clip converter, but after seeing this video, I'm so glad I didn't bother. I'll just edit them in my own editing software as originally planned. I also haven't checked out the alerts yet, but I really like what I saw here, so maybe I'll switch from using the SE ones to the Twitch ones instead. Thanks for always being on top of Twitch updates!
Honestly for clip editing, I just resorted to using my video editing software instead of some dumbed-down online editor. Sure, combo is great for a quick edit here and there - and definitely the best site out there - but it is still a lot more limited than what I want and it also bugged out on me quite a few times. Learning to make clips by myself was definitely a slow process in the beginning, but after a few months, I've got the workflow down and have set up a lot of templates that cut the time I spend down by a good deal.
I think you've misunderstood.
Obviously you should use actual editing software, but beginners don't have that privilege to start with it, so this tool helps them to learn while they build up to it.
@@StreamScheme Fair point. I think you should include things like that in the actual video, though. People promoting tools like Combo (which is good) and calling it super powerful (which it is), while not even mentioning the more powerful, but complicated tools in at least an addendum, might cause new creators to rely too heavily on them and get stuck.
If there's one thing I've taken away from your channel since I started 10 months ago, it's that you should never stop learning and improving.
@@inouji On a normal video about short form I would, but if its a video comparing online clip converters that are being released, or about how to do it as a beginner, I don't see the need often.
In this case, if I sat here and compared Twitchs clip converter to editing software, it feels like I'd get comments saying, "wElL oBvIoUslY iT isNt aS goOd"
I made it so when somebody sends !clip, streamer bot toggles my Replay Buffer Safe state and it saves the last 3 mins of my footage in full quality. But it also saves a clip on Twitch, as well... Just for funsies. Works pretty well.
As a growing creator myself, I really like the clip converter cause I'm still learning how to edit, but my main issue with it is that it only lets you use clips. When I am streaming, I'm not making sure I clip things to use later nor are my viewers. So, I usually go back and make highlights, but the clip converter doesn't allow you to make highlights into shorts, which sucks.
hi, you missed that our best quality clips of other streamers will die off
and that twitch is bull marketing the ad-free option.
we no longer can download clips of other streamers for editing
so production of highlight clips by viewers falls to a new low in quality.
ad-free users will discover small streams easier
while they also lose the inclination to subscribe because of ads.
so subs for small streamers may drop off...
but they will get new pennies from ad-free revenue share.
thanks for this video:
small streamers can benefit from the use of alerts and new tutorials on it.
Time to update Streamlabs! Thanks for the reminder!
soo heads up to people who don't know u can only make 15 clips in combo within one month unless you pay for the limit to be removed which kind sucks unless they changed it recently which I don't think they did.
I've never had the limit, interesting to see them change it, but to be fair thats a tiktok every 2 days which is recommended for starting out, and the tool is still incredible.
@@StreamScheme Oh I'm not saying it's not incredible it is don't get me wrong I just hate the fact there's a limit.
Join combo is nice. I played with it a bit. They still have some work to do. I had some issues with the zoom feature where the play head and clips wouldn't be in the right place on the timeline if I zoomed all the way in. Still, it's the best one of it's kind that I've seen.
Would be really interesting to see how you feel about Kick. Been learning a lot from your channel. Thanks for sharing! 👍😀😎
Me paying attention to something else and snapping back to hear Not-Ninja say "N****" 👁️👄👁️
for mobile users. I can see why Ads are so annoying, but on pc. I still to this day am flabbergasted ppl get so upset by pre-rolls. if im bored n go on the hunt for a new streamer. I'll just throw open 10 tabs, 10 streamers, go get a glass of water, come back to all the ads on all 10 tabs being done, then watch each one for 10 to 15 minutes to see if its worth sticking around.
The clip thing is a game changer. But the alerts, meh I spent too long setting up my Mix it Up. I’m keeping it
Combo has always been how I've done clips, I've recently tried out Twitch's verson and while it is super quick and easy, it just doesn't feel as good. I will always recommend Combo to everyone I see.
I hated having my sound and animated alerts randomly stopping to pop up all the time with stream elements, so sadly i had to go back to streamlabs and it never failed me
I had the exact opposite experience... streamlabs never worked right. But i guess it doesn't matter now as I've moved almost everything to streamer bot for all my streaming platforms.
the buttehole thing on reddit worked quiet well for me ....
This is a desperation move and nothing more, because they got caught implementing a policy that is bad for everyone and not only that, Kick is actually doing what twitch should be doing.
However kick on the other hand will not be in a good position if they don't capitalize on this.
This is completely incorrect.
All these updates came out BEFORE the policy changed, and they take moths to build.
Kick are not doing a single thing better than twitch or RUclips.
If you think Kick is at all a viable option, then I’m more worried about that.
Since ya know, it has no discovery and less viewers than every other platform, worse tools, worse tech, and sponsors refuse to work with it.
@@StreamScheme kind of agree. Kick is already worlds better of a streaming experience than RUclips. It’s viability is based on 2 things, 1) it’s backed by gambling (twitch still allows gambling too but banned specific sites). 2) Kick still uses the same aws services Twitch does without the overhead of running Twitch or reporting revenue to the Amazon insect overlords. So the Twitch people are running those ads because Amazon is making them. When Twitch wants to do anything for the creator, they have to beg Amazon to essentially Rob Peter to pay Paul. Kick doesn’t need to do any of this. Plus, Amazon could care less. They don’t care if kick does well, they get paid either way. Want proof? They would have kicked them off aws. Amazon bought twitch specifically to farm out the twitch stream experience as a service. Anyone can be twitch now. RUclips already gave up improving streaming. They went all in on shorts and now podcasts. Their streaming experience is garbage.
I appreciate the reply but trust me I’m aware of AWS and the gambling, these aren’t wins for Kick.
I’m concerned as well because you said they went all in on shorts, but seem to have missed the updates they’ve done that openly connect shorts to lives.
The experience I’ve used hasn’t been garbage, it’s just been different to twitch, and after using it a bit I prefer it immensely.
RUclips has better tech than kick and twitch now, better discovery because any short view while your life has a big red circle saying live now, browse traffic, search traffic, scheduled streams on your homepage are front and centre with a big “remind me”
The only thing that needs work is how the chat flows, otherwise I haven’t found a single reason twitch or kick are better than RUclips.
Any update RUclips makes that helps creators grow an audience, helps their streaming tools, and because they chose a different route to help streamers on here grow, people seem to misunderstand how powerful it is.
@@StreamScheme Yeah, but if there comes a time Kick gets people that know what needs to be done to make it much better. On top of that, Twitch losing four people in one way or another is not good. Dr. Disrespect got completely fucked over by Twitch and they have not been transparent about it, even to this day. Ninja has gotten tired of their shit, Amouranth has also jumped ship, which I cant stand her, but she knows how to she plays the game and she played Twitch like a violin and cut their strings when there was a better opportunity. xQc from an article mentions that he has moved on to Kick for a 9 figure deal. So Twitch has lost some major money makers.
All in all, you, me and everyone else are just a drop in the bucket on Twitch and as top heavy as Twitch is, especially with the hypocritical ToS they do have, as long a Kick plays their hand right and knows where not to fuck up having more than enough info to use as learning examples and they do what they have to improve, Twitch is going to be in a heap of trouble regardless of what you or I think. Unless someone like George Soros get's involved, Twitch has to find a way to make real money and soon.
I am not trying to defend Kick, or have a huge hate boner for Twitch, but I am looking at the writing on the wall. If Twitch does not clean house and actually enforce and reform some of the rules and other aspects that has really tarnished their reputation and keeps screwing us over for just mere words, it's not a question of "if", but "when".
So as a new streamer (and I mean new like less than 10 streams new) I've started off using the new built in alerts system. But... Is there a reason/benefit of jumping over and using Stream Elements instead. Like future proofing?
Not really, unless your moving to RUclips, twitch alerts work fine if you’re on twitch
I don't know what's up with the preview window feature you're talking about, I didn't see it at all last year when you first talked about it and I don't see it now. Regional thing maybe? Or rolled back already lol
As I say in the video its still being rolled out.
@StreamScheme see this is why your the goat, I posted and you replied before im even off the toilet
It’s what I do, let’s hope twitch don’t get cold feet hey
can’t believe they drop a brand new home page immediately after this video dropped
I know smh
Ok, but my streamelements (and streamer bot) can be used for both twitch and youtube, and anything other platform. The alerts look cool, but why would I want to invest time into something that only works on Twitch? (This is a real question, is there really any value to twitch alerts beyond being easy for new streamers who only use twitch?)
As I said in the video, they don’t wipe out the other tools, or make them useless, but they’ve done a great job creating something fast, reliable, and easy to use.
I wouldn’t even consider StreamerBot as competition due to the sheer difference in them, streamerbot is it’s own beast. Nothing comes close.
Elements though, I’d personally use twitch alerts over elements if I was still on twitch, the integration and consistency has been far better on twitch alerts.
@StreamScheme thanks for the clarification. It's not something for me at this point. I'll keep moving forward with streamer bot.
That's some funny stuff. But i didn't followed the story with Twitch. It's the issues with the Sponsors are still a thing ? Or everything got deleted. Because they told us that it was removed, but apparently, that was still on the contract
yoo eljay i started recording my stream to get clips and shit...but when i go to watch them back, the quality of my recording is like negative 360p for half a clip and then 1080p, then 720p, likes its bouncing around the entire time...ergo, cant get a good quality clip. i stream using obs and a capture card through nintendo switch. what can i do to help this?!!!
@StreamScheme I’d love to hear your thoughts of streaming on Kick compared to Twitch and RUclips. Many streamers seem to be making the switch.
Don’t use Kick, unless you want to end your career
Kick can be mutlistream along with RUclips
This is so fucking cool! A little scary though. Gonna take a leap here and start one up. ❤🎉
The preview on Twitch has never worked for me.
So many options, twitch, youtube, kick, facebook, tiktok.
I miss when restream gave a bunch of simulcasting for free
I want to use Join Combo, and have looked into it before. I use Stream labs OBS can you show us how to get clips from that into the Combo app? What's the best way because I don't use the Twitch Clips tool.
Watch my video on TikTok, its all covered before :)
I'm actually more likely to leave a stream when they run mid rolls, missing moments cause of an ad sucks. I didn't mind prerolls cause it was usually a single ad and not 3-5 minute chunks every 30-60 minutes. Eventually got Twitch Turbo when too many streamers moved to mid roll ads.
Everyone’s different :) we found if you had built real discovery, than you lose more viewers from pre rolls than mid rolls, but if nobody is clicking you obviously mid rolls are worse.
A pre roll is still kind of a mid roll if you come into a stream that already running. You're still missing the content that is happening.
Personally, because I'm still small and ad revenue is booty cheeks, I turned off ads to help channel growth. I'm not worried about a few bucks a month from ads when they actively deter viewers from hanging out. Offer value elsewhere and give them a reason to sub/drop bits and they will.
Though my opinions are probably skewed because I don't have hundreds of viewers per stream.
Hey Austin! You can’t turn ads off mate! I’d go check the settings again, pre rolls are forced on, the setting to turn ads off is just for if you run mid rolls.
@@StreamScheme Unless I am understanding the graph wrong, I definitely have a month where I had 0 minutes in ads that I can show you. lol.
Twitch added the new awful policies that affect at least half of streamers' income, and that's why I'm using kick because it's not as strict and has the BS that Twitch is doing, you should at least mention and be honest about that stream scheme
Still cant Multistream with Twitch
The forced advertisements have basically made me stop watching twitch in general. I have a prime sub, so I maybe watch one channel here and there. The only reason I have to watch someone on twitch now is to leave it on a channel that has twitch drops for a game I play. The channel is minimized, set to the minimum resolution and the window is muted. I only check on it here and there to see if I can claim the drop yet. Trying to browse other channels just to get ad-rolls to come back up is not worth the time.
Can you explain short form content please? I get that it’s addictive and entertaining but there’s no ad revenue so why create it? I guess you get discovered but so many short channels never make long format videos.
Is there a link that someone can hit me with for Combo?? I can't seem to find it anywhere! Big sad.
Just called JoinCombo :) if I google it, it comes up.
Can’t update links from phone sorry!
RUclips isn’t even a viable streaming option unless you already have a preexisting sub following. No one and I repeat no one, is going through RUclips’s terrible UI and looking for streams to watch. Kick is 100% where it’s at right now. That’s just my opinion though. 😊
Hey, just so you know Kick has less stream viewers at almost all time than RUclips.
Nobody goes to kick in search of streams, they only go there if there streamer is already there and moves over, kick has worse discovery than Twitch and worse tools.
RUclips has built a system where streams are recommended to people who will like it, and it works. I’d recommend spending more time researching user bases, and how these platforms work, kick will hurt your career long term, and the exact thing you said is bad about RUclips is actually a kick problem, not a RUclips problem.
I have been posting short clips on YT (YT Shorts) and TikTok which I am seeing no traffic routed from these platforms. I get around 1.2-1.3k views on my YT Shorts and around 200-800 views on TikToks.
I only post clips that are funny or entertaining and I take my time with them. I don’t just pump out clips for views. What could I be doing wrong?
To be honest, and this isn’t meant to be critical, but at those views you’re not actually making content that’s “good”.
Shorts and tiktoks will always get 2000 views of less as a testing period to see if it’s good. If it is good, they’ll get far more views than that.
I’d step back, and do more research on what works on both platforms, new video on shorts coming soon as well. But yeah, you’ll want to likely focus on solving your ideas or concepts for each short, and then giving them structure of hook > retention content > pay off,
@@StreamScheme Ah I see. The whole Hook, Retention and Pay off is something I still don’t fully understand/struggle with. I really appreciate your feedback man! Thank you.
I just want to know what would be better long term for streaming? Twitch or RUclips?!
I’m so torn between the two
I've made several videos in detail on this :) just scroll the channel
@@StreamScheme I know and I’ve watched them all over and over I just cannot decide where to go 😭
RUclips
Its Danny DeVito in the background? Lol
just my dad
As someone who has streamed on twitch for 7 years and had 0 growth for close to 6 years, I'm just not in the twitch camp any more. I've been looking for good reasons to leave for years which was why I went to mixer(beam) for awhile. Sadly, it went away and now I'm back on twitch. Listening to a lot of your other content over the last year, and twitch being twitch, I decided to cut my live streams down from 5 to 2 for twitch. Do 1 stream a week on youtube, and then spend my other 2 days working on long form content, scripts, clips, edits, etc. I've been cutting and setting clips aside so I can release about 2 a day and then we're almost ready to start releasing long form content on youtube.
For me the clip editor is a joke. Like you pointed theres better stuff out there that does it right. Joincombo was great when it was free, but now they limit you on how many you can make per month/week or something before needing a membership.
Eklipse gg is a good tool as well, though its mostly designed around FPS games, it still works great as an AI bot clipper that can also edit and upload. Though, it isn't as free as joincombo is. Its gimmick is really about its AI tools working well for games like fortnite, valorant, apex, cod, etc. But I've been content using it for Totk/botw.
When you realize you should’ve watched this video 2 hours ago when it was posted as well as your last two tiktoks. 😭😭 I’M DOING IT ALL WRONG. 😅
Eljay, will you make a video about Kick?
I really don’t want to because I thought people knew it was terrible but these comments worry me
@@StreamScheme I saw your other replies, and I think most of your concerns can be answered with the fact that Kick is still a small platform and they need to put more time into their algorythms and interface. I switched to Kick last time, and in comparison to Twitch, I had a higher viewerbase in my niche, being 5 viewers average, while as of on Twitch, I max out on 2 viewers.
I appreciate the idea that it is young, but we need to also remember they aren't solving ANY of their issues, and are just pushing their split, and copying mixer.
They should spend less time posting campaigns insulting Twitch, and more time trying to actually create a decent service.
It's also important to remember Kick doesn't set rules on what counts as a viewer. So every single creator ends up with an inflated view count.
And obviously, the fact that their entire site is hosted on AWS, so if Amazon actually felt like they were taking too much, they could just turn off Kick, and thanks to their DMCA and safeharbour issues, they can do that without any repercussions.
@@StreamScheme that is fair. But I don't really have much risk of ending my career when I don't have a large stream viewerbase (ergo it didn't even start), so I'll just see how it goes in the future.
@@CrimeNetArchive As I always say, it's just about diversifying.
You'll still need to create content on TikTok and RUclips to get viewers on Kick, since it it has no foot traffic or discovery.
So as long as you spread out, and work hard, doesn't matter on the platform.
HE REFRAMED !! GET HIM !!!!!!
Hahahaha
I feel ignored 😂
everyone jumping on kick now x) "twitch beating youtube"?
If you think Kick is at all a viable option, then I’m more worried about that.
Since ya know, it has no discovery and less viewers than every other platform, worse tools, worse tech, and sponsors refuse to work with it.
@@StreamScheme maybe, but xqc and asmon are jumping on it, at least xqc is, if asmon does, twitch might fall alot.
I couldn't imagine basing my decisions as a small creator on what people so large its impossible for them to fail do, especially people not creating or pushing themselves to the next level but are simply looking for the largest pay out on their audience they've built before it was too difficult to grow.
I think you nailed my voice with your "commenters voice" imitation. Also, I've been using JoinCombo since you recommended it a year ago.
Great tool to start learning! And when you see success or a format that clicks, evolving to use actual editing software and improving your quality goes great!
69 seconds?!?! Nice!!
Honestly I like both but but I mainly stream in twitch . So cmon twitch I guess ! 😂
After five years of grinding away on twitch. Just under 400 followers. And twitch would not even pay me £50. They owed me. After months of emails, I deleted twitch I am done with that service. RUclipsrs, much better. It would be nice if kick comes to consoles, then I can stream straight to kick.
Don’t use Kick, it is worse in every single way.
In Decades? Isn't twitch just a decade (10 yrs) old now?
It’s a lil cheeky joke about how they’re stale :)
zt livestreaming is dead. tried to find an overwatch stream once, it took me ages
I prefer RUclips ngl
i honestly just dont think streaming is for me, i enjoy games but everything else ehhhh
Twitch also has to do something to stop the large content creators from migrating to Kick, here's hoping this isn't too little too late.
I mean anymore moving to Kick right now isn’t doing it because it’s the right move, they’re doing it because they’re desperate and don’t understand the platform is far worse than twitch.
Or even to just RUclips too
Hey I watch your vids on how to get more popular on twitch and it’s not working. Plz help
The end of the day twitch is still garbage. no matter how much they want to frame the conversation why are streamers leaving twitch. you're heading to RUclips and other platforms to stream and also taking their communities with them. Considering how out-of-touch and totally tone-deaf. Twitch is a joke. Wonder why people are laughing at twitch because of how they treat the streamers and content creators on the platform. When other platforms like RUclips pay their streamers and creators substantially a lot better then twitch does. Plus telling people that they're not allowed to multi-stream to other platforms like RUclips essentially creating a "DIGITAL IRON CURTAIN" that is a counter-productive and and detrimental two creators and streamers growth.
This comment feels like you've not really watched my channel before, because you know my rule is to cover the good, the bad, and explain how to use it, no matter the platform.
Educating Creators to make choices themselves, rather than pushing my beliefs on them without other options.
Sure, I left Twitch, but doesn't mean I'm going to stop educating people on all the different options for them.
kick
If you think Kick is at all a viable option, then I’m more worried about that.
Since ya know, it has no discovery and less viewers than every other platform, worse tools, worse tech, and sponsors refuse to work with it.
@@StreamScheme I am totally down with you opinion. Time and effort will show the results in the future. As a new hobby creator I want to give kick a chance. When it dont work ist okay for me.
twitch died lol rip
booooooo
first
You beat me!!!
@@UryneCayne speed
Lol twitch is getting destroyed
butt......reddit.......is this a legit strat people use to grow?
First?
Twitch is dead
The alert tool I had a lot of fun with. Some of the gifs are good too. Shorts editing is my next plan, I want to start creating shorts of my streams, since I try to go the route of doing stuff in game that is recreatable by others, let’s you google “Build X in Forza” and a short will come up, at least that’s my plan!
just started my tiktok today and I will say I do enjoy the editing system on the app. I fumbled with it at first but after editing a couple of videos on it it finally clicked. Personally I haven’t done much editing other then the basic stuff you get with iPhones so I am greener then baby feces but I’m hoping I can find a good editing software for shorts AND longform content