I think people would have a lot more sympathy for Kylie if she just took half a second to recognize and acknowledge the ways in which she contributes to the same problem she's a victim of. I think she could have a real conversation about beauty standards, bullying and being thrust into the spotlight at way too young of an age. but because she doesnt want to address the elephant in the room, her having this conversation always falls flat, especially because she continues to profit off of her very victimhood. the same thing happened last season when her Khloe and Kourtney were in the bathroom.
Re: filming strangers in public, I think what you’re hitting on is the *state of surveillance* people have so quickly adopted from TikTok 🥴 everybody wants to talk parasocial relationships, yet I need more people to wake up the fact that we are policing each other more and more every day
I feel the same way about Kylie as I do about people in cults and high-control religions- I can have some empathy for the more innocent/young folks who are indoctrinated into the bullshit and never thought critically about the culture they're in- but I have less and less sympathy the farther you move up the hierarchy where the elder decision-makers know exactly wtf they are doing
I don't feel sympathy for Kardashians. I will say people are bring ahistorical by saying she CREATED the beauty standards, she's too young for that, but she did transform them and propel them forward. She's like a cog in the machine of the problem like the rest of us, but she's a much bigger cog. With the constantly changing beauty standards and all the bullying she received and still receives, it makes perfect sense why she's crying from sadness, stress, and trauma. But crying to the public might not have been the right call.
This whole "storyline" is jut the long term effects of cosmetic procedures at such a young age. I called this happening before the whole bocal fat removal thing. I cant feel bad becaue these doctors and people really shouldnt treat procedures like this like its fun. Bring back psych evaluations and ethics. The body dysmorphia is so warped because you get shamed whether you go under the life or not. People are just devoling becaue of social media and tik tok. They like embarrassing people. Mike tyson said a word about punching people in the face
you are absolutely correct!!! cheaters and terrible people deserve to be dealt with but unless you're witnessing a crime why are you filming strangers ???!!! I don't even like the ones where people film others who they think are beautiful and upload it because why are you uploading it ??? 😭 People nowadays post other people eating/their outfits or just people living life without asking permission and I always pray that I never end up in that situation because you have no control over what the internet does afterward 😭...
I will ALWAYS bully rich people especially billionaires. But the Kardashians….who made their entire careers off of the insecurities of women and stealing from black people? Absolutely no sympathy from me. You’re a billionaire you can afford therapy. The video of her crying was also weird tone-wise because she made it seem like “why is it happening to ME” like she never expected it this to happen to her since she’s been the beauty standard for sooo long. Ultimately Kylie is a cog in the machine of beauty standards and misogyny, but she’s a BIG cog and to that she’s not getting ANY sympathy points from me.
I’m not down for randoms getting dog piled on the internet. Unless someone’s committing a violent felony or something that can lead to violence (like the Karen sagas of black people having police called on them for nothing), I don’t think any non-public figure deserves to be secretly filmed and having the entire internet come down on them. Also you clocked a huge section of the true crime girlies for real.
I blame the lip kits for every other lip gloss being a “plumping” lip gloss. They legit just make people’s lips look obscenely glossy, yet not hydrated at the same time. Of all the times black women get excluded from makeup campaigns, you stay seeing black models with it on, with brands insinuating that their product is what made those women’s lips look like that.
That lip plumping literally started the downhill roll of comsetic procedures and body dysphoria (atleast restarted it from the "ass shots" pandemic of the 90s)
The BET Awards this year are how you know that the Chart Hunters’ critique, or lack there of, has no validity: the crowd reaction during Victoria’s performance vs Sexyy Red’s. With the way charts are valued over quality, you can’t trust that every person is going know and appreciate talent when they see it. The prescriptions on rose tinted glasses are STRONG.
Another thought: what if it's not cheating? We don't know the parameters of this man's marriage. He's a complete stranger being filmed and accused of cheating because he had a ring on his finger. Open relationships, marriages included do exist! We ought to mind our own business and stay out of other people's marriages
This is also probably unlikely but what if his partner recently died and he doesn't feel comfortable taking the ring off yet? But he's trying to move on? What if his marriage is virtually defunct but they stay married because it's easier? What if that's his wife but she doesn't like how her ring feels or it's getting fixed? There's so many what ifs! Which is why filming and boosting this is so nasty.
Also if I were ever in that situation, I would never air them out publicly, maybe if I get a chance to find their partner I'd make them aware, but that feels awkward cause like you said it might be an open relationship
I dont really feel bad for them but i also think the actual problem is that people care about celebs too much cause they should not be having that much impact on peoples own self esteem like the blame is not all on them
I kid you tf not, back in 2015/2016 after she got her body done, she kept telling the world that a BODY CREAM gave her the new curves. And she was being PAID TO PROMOTE THIS CREAM ON HER IG. I swear it’s like everyone forgot about this lol, the receipts are on google though!!! And that’s what really kept me from feeling bad when I saw that clip because even when she’s crying and trying to portray a “vulnerable moment” she’s still blatantly lying. She still had to stand on business about that “I ever got done was some lip filler🥺” lie. The most OBVIOUS LIE told by an adult human being, possibly in the history of human kind.
Not even just spectacle. So many ppl just film randoms in the wild and its WEIRD. Even if its a cute video its WEIRD. Also now everyone thinks this woman's husband is cheating on her.
I mean she was groomed thats kinda sad, As for making other woman have low self esteem I guess but anyone who idolize someone to the point of depression should really check themselve.
30 years old is not old 😂😂😂 I never understood that concept. At 30 years old, you’ve literally only experienced 12 years of adulthood😅 and it’s definitely not just ppl in their 30s talking about people’s looks online. We have to remember that we share social media spaces with multiple generations of ppl now - there’s some boomers, gen x, millennials, gen z AND gen alpha all online so those age groups range from 70s-preteens and within that, there are folks from all age groups who have tendencies to be nasty online. I’m also lowkey shocked bc I thought you were like 27-30 years old this whole time, based on some of previous videos you tend to have more mature train of thought compared to someone in their early 20s (im assuming)
That plane story is a rehash of West Elm Caleb and Plane Bae. We've got to stop this culture of filming and photographing people in public. Instead of just being nosy, you're trying to get millions of people involved in a harassment campaign. If he's cheating, I hope she finds out, but not like this. Cheating is bad, but it doesn't warrant the media attention and death threats that that post will cause.
Kenya your take on Kylie is perfect, because people forget Kylie was a CHILDDDDDDDD. And they dragged her for her looks, so these beauty stands were not CREATED BY HER, if the reason she touched her face in the first place was because GROWN adults were bullying her since childhood how. I don’t have much empathy for the ponder sister, but I was there for the Kylie era, 2015 was a HARDDDDDD time for being a young girl. And if you were a young girl in that time you know,
Maybe I’m lucky to find the creators that do deep dives on music and other things. They dive into lyrics and behind scenes and stuff like real research. It’s just that the others are louder
I don't like the Kardashians and they have definitely influenced the beauty standard... but THANK you for acknowledging that we on social media were clowning tf out of Kylie's looks before the surgery when she was a kid. It's like people are trying to erase their part in influencing the beauty standard too. Like they were NASTY about her and I vividly remember it.
People are still nasty about it. I can’t comprehend how others (especially media publications) will talk sh*t about someone’s appearance, make them self conscious enough to get plastic surgery, then proceed to bash them for getting surgery and being “bad role models” while saying they botched their “already pretty” appearance. The girls literally can’t win. I wish people would learn to keep unsolicited opinions about someone’s appearance to themselves.
kylie should leave the family and fame if it’s that bad. I’m more worried about the young girls that she influences. Kylie is a grown woman and mother now with full autonomy.
Kenya, I wonder if you’d like Madison Brown’s yt channel. She loves music and a lot of her content is deep dive convos (i especially loved the vid she made about Ariana Grande)
I don’t feel bad for her. Every few years for a storyline she’ll cry about how toxic beauty standards are but then go right back to keeping said beauty standards in the mainstream. She’s just upset now because her current man and the current trends are into the opposite of what she is and she knows objectively she’s messed up her face plastic surgery wise.
My issue is with people who have cosmetic surgery is those who get it feel they’re “better than” everyone else who doesn’t have surgery, talking down bullying and shitting on those who are natural. The kardashians have done that subliminally with their actions and how they treat people. Same with influencers I.e winter blanco. She got humbled as well (she said people who don’t have veneers or cannot afford them are ‘broke’ yet hers were terribly done by a unlicensed dentist)
kylie has no right to run and cry to the public, the people who made her a billionaire, about the insecurities she profited off of. she need to cry to her mama kris and ask why she let a 16 year old get plastic surgery and date a grown man.
No one should feel 1oz of sympathy for that phony & sensitive girl. She's not even worth it. It hard to feel any pain for her. Well at least for me. Kylie always trying to play victim card. Like she's not at fault.
This is my Wendy Williams. I miss hot topics 😭.
real
I love her sm she’s so moral and fair. A true icon. I have loved seeing her grow over the years ❤❤❤
I think people would have a lot more sympathy for Kylie if she just took half a second to recognize and acknowledge the ways in which she contributes to the same problem she's a victim of. I think she could have a real conversation about beauty standards, bullying and being thrust into the spotlight at way too young of an age. but because she doesnt want to address the elephant in the room, her having this conversation always falls flat, especially because she continues to profit off of her very victimhood. the same thing happened last season when her Khloe and Kourtney were in the bathroom.
We can all admit she had trash parents but she is an adult now and profits off of it and lies about it. So I don't feel sorry for her
This!!!!!!
💯💯💯💯
Re: filming strangers in public, I think what you’re hitting on is the *state of surveillance* people have so quickly adopted from TikTok 🥴 everybody wants to talk parasocial relationships, yet I need more people to wake up the fact that we are policing each other more and more every day
I don't feel bad for ANY of the Kardashians!
I feel bad for some of them! Cuz they are humans!
Exactly!!
She wipes her tears with tissues made of $100 bills smdh
I literally cannot feel bad for anyone with over 100 million net worth
Same
"What you care about is MESS" PREACH, KENYA!!!
I feel the same way about Kylie as I do about people in cults and high-control religions- I can have some empathy for the more innocent/young folks who are indoctrinated into the bullshit and never thought critically about the culture they're in- but I have less and less sympathy the farther you move up the hierarchy where the elder decision-makers know exactly wtf they are doing
I don't feel sympathy for Kardashians. I will say people are bring ahistorical by saying she CREATED the beauty standards, she's too young for that, but she did transform them and propel them forward. She's like a cog in the machine of the problem like the rest of us, but she's a much bigger cog. With the constantly changing beauty standards and all the bullying she received and still receives, it makes perfect sense why she's crying from sadness, stress, and trauma. But crying to the public might not have been the right call.
This whole "storyline" is jut the long term effects of cosmetic procedures at such a young age. I called this happening before the whole bocal fat removal thing. I cant feel bad becaue these doctors and people really shouldnt treat procedures like this like its fun. Bring back psych evaluations and ethics. The body dysmorphia is so warped because you get shamed whether you go under the life or not. People are just devoling becaue of social media and tik tok. They like embarrassing people. Mike tyson said a word about punching people in the face
you are absolutely correct!!! cheaters and terrible people deserve to be dealt with but unless you're witnessing a crime why are you filming strangers ???!!! I don't even like the ones where people film others who they think are beautiful and upload it because why are you uploading it ??? 😭 People nowadays post other people eating/their outfits or just people living life without asking permission and I always pray that I never end up in that situation because you have no control over what the internet does afterward 😭...
No one should feel bad for Kylie or any of those women in that family.
They are humans. Empathy and sympathy are a thing. They aint killed anyone
@@whalewolf7477but they have created a problem & now complaining about that problem like we suppose to care🤷🏽♀️
@@tiaraw872 The Kardashians invented beauty standards?
please watch the rest of the video lol
@@em.415 for sure invented some of them. or highly contributed. and monetized
I will ALWAYS bully rich people especially billionaires. But the Kardashians….who made their entire careers off of the insecurities of women and stealing from black people? Absolutely no sympathy from me. You’re a billionaire you can afford therapy. The video of her crying was also weird tone-wise because she made it seem like “why is it happening to ME” like she never expected it this to happen to her since she’s been the beauty standard for sooo long. Ultimately Kylie is a cog in the machine of beauty standards and misogyny, but she’s a BIG cog and to that she’s not getting ANY sympathy points from me.
You Angel Reese take was spot on 😭
I tell everyone I looked at tickets for her games not Caitlyn’s…..😅
“A big investment in other people’s misery.” Absolutely, and filming without consent is weirdo behavior if it’s not solely for safety concerns.
I’m not down for randoms getting dog piled on the internet. Unless someone’s committing a violent felony or something that can lead to violence (like the Karen sagas of black people having police called on them for nothing), I don’t think any non-public figure deserves to be secretly filmed and having the entire internet come down on them. Also you clocked a huge section of the true crime girlies for real.
I agree
I don't feel bad for any of them, they have been nasty and backstabbed so many women both in their inner circle and the everyday women.
When u started getting in your bag about Angel Recce, I was saying “yep! Yep!” Like that old church lady
I blame the lip kits for every other lip gloss being a “plumping” lip gloss. They legit just make people’s lips look obscenely glossy, yet not hydrated at the same time.
Of all the times black women get excluded from makeup campaigns, you stay seeing black models with it on, with brands insinuating that their product is what made those women’s lips look like that.
That part!!
That lip plumping literally started the downhill roll of comsetic procedures and body dysphoria (atleast restarted it from the "ass shots" pandemic of the 90s)
The BET Awards this year are how you know that the Chart Hunters’ critique, or lack there of, has no validity: the crowd reaction during Victoria’s performance vs Sexyy Red’s.
With the way charts are valued over quality, you can’t trust that every person is going know and appreciate talent when they see it. The prescriptions on rose tinted glasses are STRONG.
You are soo right about people finding entertainment in spectating things that aren’t their business . LOUDER
Another thought: what if it's not cheating? We don't know the parameters of this man's marriage. He's a complete stranger being filmed and accused of cheating because he had a ring on his finger. Open relationships, marriages included do exist! We ought to mind our own business and stay out of other people's marriages
I was thinking the same!
This was my first thought
This is also probably unlikely but what if his partner recently died and he doesn't feel comfortable taking the ring off yet? But he's trying to move on? What if his marriage is virtually defunct but they stay married because it's easier? What if that's his wife but she doesn't like how her ring feels or it's getting fixed?
There's so many what ifs! Which is why filming and boosting this is so nasty.
Also if I were ever in that situation, I would never air them out publicly, maybe if I get a chance to find their partner I'd make them aware, but that feels awkward cause like you said it might be an open relationship
I feel nothing for her at all. Watch her come up with a new product riding off the sympathy 😑
She wipes her tears with tissues made of $100 bills
I dont really feel bad for them but i also think the actual problem is that people care about celebs too much cause they should not be having that much impact on peoples own self esteem like the blame is not all on them
I kid you tf not, back in 2015/2016 after she got her body done, she kept telling the world that a BODY CREAM gave her the new curves. And she was being PAID TO PROMOTE THIS CREAM ON HER IG. I swear it’s like everyone forgot about this lol, the receipts are on google though!!! And that’s what really kept me from feeling bad when I saw that clip because even when she’s crying and trying to portray a “vulnerable moment” she’s still blatantly lying. She still had to stand on business about that “I ever got done was some lip filler🥺” lie. The most OBVIOUS LIE told by an adult human being, possibly in the history of human kind.
honestly she did this to herself she made millions off destroying women’s self esteem and now we’re suppose to feel sorry for her??? aht aht nope!!!!
I love seeing some of the hotties breaking down megan lyrics especially with the Japanese song on TikTok
Not even just spectacle. So many ppl just film randoms in the wild and its WEIRD. Even if its a cute video its WEIRD. Also now everyone thinks this woman's husband is cheating on her.
I mean she was groomed thats kinda sad, As for making other woman have low self esteem I guess but anyone who idolize someone to the point of depression should really check themselve.
30 years old is not old 😂😂😂 I never understood that concept. At 30 years old, you’ve literally only experienced 12 years of adulthood😅 and it’s definitely not just ppl in their 30s talking about people’s looks online. We have to remember that we share social media spaces with multiple generations of ppl now - there’s some boomers, gen x, millennials, gen z AND gen alpha all online so those age groups range from 70s-preteens and within that, there are folks from all age groups who have tendencies to be nasty online. I’m also lowkey shocked bc I thought you were like 27-30 years old this whole time, based on some of previous videos you tend to have more mature train of thought compared to someone in their early 20s (im assuming)
I think she is 26 or 27 you’re right but I’m also not sure if she meant to say ‘30 years old’, it might’ve just been a quick train of thought
14:21 the same people that will sit there and complain about government surveillance, like at this point baby you’re the NSA agent
You were so spot on about the Kylie Jenner thing
That plane story is a rehash of West Elm Caleb and Plane Bae. We've got to stop this culture of filming and photographing people in public. Instead of just being nosy, you're trying to get millions of people involved in a harassment campaign. If he's cheating, I hope she finds out, but not like this. Cheating is bad, but it doesn't warrant the media attention and death threats that that post will cause.
Kenya your take on Kylie is perfect, because people forget Kylie was a CHILDDDDDDDD. And they dragged her for her looks, so these beauty stands were not CREATED BY HER, if the reason she touched her face in the first place was because GROWN adults were bullying her since childhood how. I don’t have much empathy for the ponder sister, but I was there for the Kylie era, 2015 was a HARDDDDDD time for being a young girl. And if you were a young girl in that time you know,
If only she cried this much for the astroworld victims instead of posting the ambulances trying to save them on her story!
Maybe I’m lucky to find the creators that do deep dives on music and other things. They dive into lyrics and behind scenes and stuff like real research. It’s just that the others are louder
Can you recommend some of your favs please ?
@@pinnywizard there is lovely ti she does full break downs. When the Kendrick + Drake beef happened she broke down lyrics and stuff
I feel so bad for the super rich 😢.
Why? I feel bad for the regular every day ppl!
@@urmamasmamasmamathere’s sarcasm there hun….
but she touched on that in the video lol.
Thank you for posting to get me through late night chores ❤
Why is Hollywood unlocked awarding anybody anything 😂
RIGHT?! Like WHOO is taking this serious and how did they get the budget... "KIM THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE DYING!"
The Normani album is 🔥. I didn’t know what to expect from Dopamine. But I’m hooked.
Nope ❤❤❤ a little as a human but she has a lot to do with this reaction she’s receiving.
I don't like the Kardashians and they have definitely influenced the beauty standard... but THANK you for acknowledging that we on social media were clowning tf out of Kylie's looks before the surgery when she was a kid. It's like people are trying to erase their part in influencing the beauty standard too. Like they were NASTY about her and I vividly remember it.
People are still nasty about it. I can’t comprehend how others (especially media publications) will talk sh*t about someone’s appearance, make them self conscious enough to get plastic surgery, then proceed to bash them for getting surgery and being “bad role models” while saying they botched their “already pretty” appearance. The girls literally can’t win. I wish people would learn to keep unsolicited opinions about someone’s appearance to themselves.
kylie should leave the family and fame if it’s that bad. I’m more worried about the young girls that she influences. Kylie is a grown woman and mother now with full autonomy.
Agreed
Kenya, I wonder if you’d like Madison Brown’s yt channel. She loves music and a lot of her content is deep dive convos (i especially loved the vid she made about Ariana Grande)
oh you were on point with this video 💯
I don’t feel bad for her. Every few years for a storyline she’ll cry about how toxic beauty standards are but then go right back to keeping said beauty standards in the mainstream. She’s just upset now because her current man and the current trends are into the opposite of what she is and she knows objectively she’s messed up her face plastic surgery wise.
Big Boy, Wild Side, Distance are BOPS
My issue is with people who have cosmetic surgery is those who get it feel they’re “better than” everyone else who doesn’t have surgery, talking down bullying and shitting on those who are natural. The kardashians have done that subliminally with their actions and how they treat people. Same with influencers I.e winter blanco. She got humbled as well (she said people who don’t have veneers or cannot afford them are ‘broke’ yet hers were terribly done by a unlicensed dentist)
grip is the best song exactly
Short answer: NO.
Omgggggg i love grip tooooo
I think they are obsessed with spectacle
YAS TO GRIP
Girl not Jonathan Majors again. I thought we left him behind
I agree with everything!!!!
Swifties still deep dive 😂
BRING BACK MUSIC BREAKDOWNS
No fr they love Caitlyn Clark so much for no reason 😂
kylie has no right to run and cry to the public, the people who made her a billionaire, about the insecurities she profited off of. she need to cry to her mama kris and ask why she let a 16 year old get plastic surgery and date a grown man.
No one should feel 1oz of sympathy for that phony & sensitive girl. She's not even worth it. It hard to feel any pain for her. Well at least for me. Kylie always trying to play victim card. Like she's not at fault.
20:50 covid brain fog could be part of it
Black men protecting carl..i mean caityln clark is just classic tbh
Why are you yelling???
Are you new here ?😂
😂😂😂 yea it’s something
13:50-14:21 🔥
Chloe used to be the prettiest one. Now, not so much.
Chloe was never the prettier one. That's a damn lie.
PLEASE STOP YELLING!!!
Or turn down your volume lol
@@sr1445 naw, she yelling.
They def be opps
Why are you yelling sis
I 100% disagree with you about Jonathan Majors.
WHICH PART lol
Jonathan isn't a clown, your the clown for trying to get clicks and views
Do you know him personally or are you just pandering to a man?
Come up for air before you swallow him whole babe😂😂😂
Agreed Kirasfox.
i’m just scared for the next generation of them (they’re rich but still) 😭