We had Apple IIs in elementary school the height of those keyboards on a kid's table made them come to chest height and they made me learn typing on it.
You're welcome! Tweaking those pots have always been a bit mysterious but I found a page explaining that some time ago (the previous repair) and decided to give that a go since it does not require an alignment diskette. Now I do that as "standard", it takes only a few minutes.
I love the video. Good job. At the end you say that it didn't require too much but we know that you worked a lot to get this machine working. I have seen electronics been destroyed by other people who simply opened a device 😅
@@tony359 easy? Maybe. But expensive. Mine was only the computer and suspiciously cheap. It was filthy but it booted. I'm looking to get a floppy emu and maybe a hard drive solution. Had only the RAM card in, nothing else. The seller shipped it with only 2 pieces of newspaper for padding. I was very lucky it worked.
I'm from Poland and back in the days there was no Apple computers in here. I was raised first on Atari 130XE, then on PC 286, and later 486. I never understood why people liked apple which was not compatible with PC.
Hello there! I think Apple had a strong ingress into education, schools could have them with a big discount. The competition of the Apple 2 was way before the 286 and 486 were released!
If you watch the repair of my //c I think I show the horrendous keyboard which came with some "protection" which had warped over the years... it was unusable. Without those, it was ok but jamming easily. After lubricating each and every key, it was ok, I do like it. But the ALPS is just heaven :D Thanks for watching!
eheh - well, they're replaced with Nichicons or Panasonic :) Mind you, my own //c is NOT recapped. Well, ONE capacitor was weak and was causing the 12V to sag when the drive was starting spinning but only that. You know I don't like to recap just for the sake of doing it but that is what I've agreed to do with the owner of the machine!
Yes, blanket changing capacitors troubles me too. It has become like an internet meme. Now Tony has a good approach to it and thoughtfully considers the replacement components parameters, the temperature rating comments he makes are on point and should be adopted by others. But for every Tony there will be someone who just latches on to the "change all caps" myth and puts in the cheapest crappiest Chinese parts because new is better, right? Not always. Originality needs to be considered, future collectors will prefer less adulterated units. As shown here, most of the changed caps still tested good and some replacements are the wrong form factor. Will this affect its future desirability?
it's an excellent point. Reliability vs Originality (if that is even a term). In this case this is not my machine, the owner prefers reliability for their //c. For myself, if my Apple //c stops working, I'll look into that. For the less skilled user, it means find someone who can fix it again, shipping it, it might get damaged, it might be expensive. So I see the advantage in both approaches. Now, capacitors in the //c are not so antique, it's not like replacing those giant alluminium caps in 1960 equipment with a tiny modern one. Still, I can understand both approaches.
It was intentional. It says ‘English’ it came from factory. If the owner wants they can remove it. I suspect it’ll leave a brighter patch behind though 🙂
@@tony359 Ciao, non ero sicuro fossi italiano :D Avrei un acorn pc600, i drive di un alphatronic PC, e un paio di sharp PC2500 che avrebbero bisogno di qualcuno capace... L'acorn avrebbe bisogno di un resoldering del VDC, il drive dell'alphatronic, non legge più i dischi, mentre i pc2500 hanno avuto danni da batteria. Dimenticavo uno zenith 325s, che non si avvia... Ti potrebbe interessare ? Eventualmente potrei mandarti delle foto, così puoi valutare meglio...
Mi pareva di non aver risposto, abbi pazienza! Bello il PC600! Cos'e' il VDC? Mandami una mail, l'indirizzo e' sul mio profilo, ben nascosto da RUclips...
Well, the Apple 2 "Europlus" was exactly like that. 50Hz and goodbye. Though there was a PAL card but I don't know whether it was Apple or someone else's.
I pretty much grew up on PC's rather than Apple but I still like to watch through your processes! 🙂
I had my first PC when I was 15 but the Apple was around since I was 8. :)
same here, never met an apple that i liked, but i like watching tony & others fix them on youtube :D
Great work. It's nice to see yet another tired, faulty, old machine be restored.
Thanks!
Glad you caught the spring the other way around! I laughed too. It's ok, we all do something like that from time to time.
ahah yes that was silly! But thankfully I realised instead of "fixing" it :)
We had Apple IIs in elementary school the height of those keyboards on a kid's table made them come to chest height and they made me learn typing on it.
I learnt using a keyboard on my Apple //e for the end of year's school play. I typed the script there.
Great video! That was an interesting floppy repair with those trim pots you adjusted!
I like that ROM 0-I’ll have to get one for mine!
Thanks Tony!
You're welcome! Tweaking those pots have always been a bit mysterious but I found a page explaining that some time ago (the previous repair) and decided to give that a go since it does not require an alignment diskette. Now I do that as "standard", it takes only a few minutes.
I love the video. Good job. At the end you say that it didn't require too much but we know that you worked a lot to get this machine working. I have seen electronics been destroyed by other people who simply opened a device 😅
ahah I can imagine! Well, it's much less time than the Macintosh Colour Classic - which is still on the bench somewhere...
28:18 I can hear it! But audio is how I earn my money now ;)
Consultant in vintage floppy drives noises? :)
awesome repair, Tony! really glad you kept the yellow plastic, it looks very nice and it shows its age
Thank you! Even if I wanted, my retrobrighting ability is not great. I tend to cause more damage than anything...
I too had the Apple IIe when i was young. I was 6 when my parents bought one. I just bought an apple IIGS recently, no e or c yet.
I'd love to have a GS - they are rare across the pond. I understand they are easy to find in the US!
@@tony359 easy? Maybe. But expensive. Mine was only the computer and suspiciously cheap. It was filthy but it booted. I'm looking to get a floppy emu and maybe a hard drive solution. Had only the RAM card in, nothing else. The seller shipped it with only 2 pieces of newspaper for padding. I was very lucky it worked.
Bravo 👏 nice job Tony 👍
That is literally thinking Outside the Box.
I'm from Poland and back in the days there was no Apple computers in here. I was raised first on Atari 130XE, then on PC 286, and later 486. I never understood why people liked apple which was not compatible with PC.
Hello there! I think Apple had a strong ingress into education, schools could have them with a big discount. The competition of the Apple 2 was way before the 286 and 486 were released!
@@tony359 At that time we have had ZX Spectrums in some (and only) schools :D
The high school where my mum used to taught had an Apple 2. ONE Apple 2 for 500 students :)
@@tony359 In primary school we had ELWRO-800 Junior
Great video. A very interesting computer, I didn't know about these differences in keyboards. The machine looked like new!
If you watch the repair of my //c I think I show the horrendous keyboard which came with some "protection" which had warped over the years... it was unusable. Without those, it was ok but jamming easily. After lubricating each and every key, it was ok, I do like it. But the ALPS is just heaven :D
Thanks for watching!
I have a IIc and I’m lucky enough to have the Alps keyboard on mine. It really is a great keyboard to type on.
It is! Mine is not so bad after removing the hideous rubber underneath and the lubrication - but the ALPS is the next level! :)
Great repair Tony. I like your videos and content. Greetings from Steven from the Netherlands
Thank you Steven!
Very positive video, as always. Thanks
Great video, the operations on the floppy are very interesting.
Thank you Sir - those floppies were so simple yet so effective! I keep thinking of the C64 drives, which had a 6502, RAM and ROM inside! :D
Tony "The Apple Man"!
I know, it's been an "Apple channel" recently! I have two more apple things to do - one might end up on 2nd channel and one is a bit more modern! :)
43:50
RETROBRITE IT!
No way! First because the owner doesn't want me to do that but most importantly because I am not good at that! :D
I love the IIc. If it had a MockingBoard, it would be perfect.
It's so compact, so cute!
Seeing this Nichicons being replaced hurts ;)
eheh - well, they're replaced with Nichicons or Panasonic :) Mind you, my own //c is NOT recapped. Well, ONE capacitor was weak and was causing the 12V to sag when the drive was starting spinning but only that. You know I don't like to recap just for the sake of doing it but that is what I've agreed to do with the owner of the machine!
Yes, blanket changing capacitors troubles me too. It has become like an internet meme. Now Tony has a good approach to it and thoughtfully considers the replacement components parameters, the temperature rating comments he makes are on point and should be adopted by others. But for every Tony there will be someone who just latches on to the "change all caps" myth and puts in the cheapest crappiest Chinese parts because new is better, right? Not always.
Originality needs to be considered, future collectors will prefer less adulterated units.
As shown here, most of the changed caps still tested good and some replacements are the wrong form factor. Will this affect its future desirability?
it's an excellent point. Reliability vs Originality (if that is even a term). In this case this is not my machine, the owner prefers reliability for their //c. For myself, if my Apple //c stops working, I'll look into that. For the less skilled user, it means find someone who can fix it again, shipping it, it might get damaged, it might be expensive. So I see the advantage in both approaches. Now, capacitors in the //c are not so antique, it's not like replacing those giant alluminium caps in 1960 equipment with a tiny modern one. Still, I can understand both approaches.
What was the name of the fluid you used? Excellent as always!
Electrolube SWAS. It's not cheap but I think I bought mine 10 years ago :) (I am not affiliated BTW!)
Apple and dongles…
Argh why did you leave the piece of tape on the space bar?
It was intentional. It says ‘English’ it came from factory. If the owner wants they can remove it. I suspect it’ll leave a brighter patch behind though 🙂
Hello,
do you do repairs on request?
Hello (Ciao) - I guess it depends what it is but not normally. What have you got?
@@tony359 Ciao, non ero sicuro fossi italiano :D
Avrei un acorn pc600, i drive di un alphatronic PC, e un paio di sharp PC2500 che avrebbero bisogno di qualcuno capace...
L'acorn avrebbe bisogno di un resoldering del VDC, il drive dell'alphatronic, non legge più i dischi, mentre i pc2500 hanno avuto danni da batteria.
Dimenticavo uno zenith 325s, che non si avvia...
Ti potrebbe interessare ? Eventualmente potrei mandarti delle foto, così puoi valutare meglio...
Mi pareva di non aver risposto, abbi pazienza! Bello il PC600! Cos'e' il VDC? Mandami una mail, l'indirizzo e' sul mio profilo, ben nascosto da RUclips...
@@tony359 ciao, ti ho mandato un'email qualche giorno fa, fammi sapere....
Ciao
waaaaaaat... that's not a mod? apple was just like f the europeans they don't need colour?... edit: 11:10 oh, i see, apple being apple :D
Well, the Apple 2 "Europlus" was exactly like that. 50Hz and goodbye. Though there was a PAL card but I don't know whether it was Apple or someone else's.