Well done! Great 1st effort. Drop to upper hand is a good starting point. Classic beginners mistake of coming over the top and chopping the arc but everyone does this to some degree. Concentrate on rotating round with your hips rod comes round side and dont hit until left hand out infront of you towards the target. Take it real slow and feel rod load up before even think of hitting it.
Thanks you for your advice and input. Your one of the main reasons I started doing this I have been watching your videos for years around 4 or 5 years now. Advice from you feels amazing so thank you I will try take what you said on board next time I'm out. I think I'm going to stick to OTG for now get comfortable with that but I will try what you said above with the otg cast thank you I appreciate it
First time I went to a tournament I was nervous as hell 💩bet you wont forget the feeling of standing of standing at the oche and giving it the beans😁think I got 197yds otg on my first attempt and thought I did really well ,then you see people reeling past you and not stopping 😜I didn't try a pendulum till I was consistently hitting 200yds👍 I've been to a lot of tournaments around the country and one thing I can guarantee is that nobody will look down at you and if they can help you they will 👍watch out though..it's addictive 😁all the best Lincoln 🤙👍
@@chrisellis4222 It's definitely worth getting put to try Chris. You will improve with practice ans there is so many helpful people out there via RUclips comments and fb. I still have worked the pendulum out yet but really want to at some point
Ye I have been told similar but it's just hard to get your Brain to work with your arm 😂😂😂 well it is for me anyway. I know what I need to do but I can't do it lol
Did you leave the Knobby on or did you switch it out with a low profile knob. How did the Fathom II casting Special hold up for you. Nice Vid. A piece of Surgical tubing works great attached to the lower foot.
Sorry for the delay replying your comment had been held for some reason. Yes the reel is fully original I have got used to the mag knobs now my old ones I had Chris macey do the mag knobs but these are ok and easier to take off mags mid flight. I like the reel a lot personally well made smooth. Will be getting back out soon to do more practice. To wet in the fields at the moment they are like bogs.
Hi , I used to be a Sea Angler magazine casting instructor. I'll try and give some positive help, firstly you are right on a longer drop length to slow the pendulum swing down, but you are swing the lead to fast which will make timing the start cast difficult as it's going too fast. On your first pendulum you also got tip bounce this will muck up the pendulum swing. On the outswing of the pendulum the rod should be almost parallel with the ground, when the lead reaches the top of the outswing, you then push down and away with left hand and do not bring your right back towards you. If you have done this right, after the lead has swung back past you , you will feel as it goes over the top of the inswing, at this point you can start the cast. This is where most people learning the pendulum go wrong, they try and hit it at this point! You should sweep the rod around you accelerating as you do so , turn look up then hit it. It takes practice to get it right. There is no set style of pendulum it depends on you physical attributes. Thing to remember is you are trying to compress the rod and lock it and hold that, until you hit it. The only way way to hold the compression is through constant acceleration. The best way I can explain this is that the rod is both a spring and a lever, we want to store energy in the spring, the only way to keep that energy in the spring (rod ) is via constant applied force ( ie acceleration ). As soon as that force is reduced or removed , the stored energy is released. So over all my advise is slow it all down and find a local casting instructor, he will be able to analyse what you are doing and point you in the right direction and lots of practice. Any way tight lines and all the best!
Thank you for taking the tike to write all this I really do appreciate it. I will give it a try what your saying. Finding a casting instructor around by me isn't easy. I wanted to go to the casting downs down south Wales but I just can't get there as I'm always working on the days they have it on its very frustrating. I haven't been out practicing for a long time now unfortunately but I am very comfortable with the otg cast I do it without thinking now and not worring about how and when to hit it and it goes strait too. Been doing it with bait too. I will take on board what you have said and try it thank you for taking the tike to do this for me. Thanks Dave
I've got inner tube fixed to my rod with cable ties, essential to not burn your thumb and grip the spool well. That's one less thing to worry about!You seem to be not doing too bad, it takes practice. Have you tried slowing the cast down a bit, it might help with compressing the rod better and feel easier for you. Not snatching at the last minute and letting the rod do more of the work as it unloads might also mean you can use less brakes.
Thanks Alan for your input. I have been using innertube. Which was advised not sure I had it with me in this video tho. Yes that is definitely worth a try and I will give it a go thank you
Nice video. 👍We all have to learn.🧑🎓 Try not to be so down on yourself all the time.🥺🥺 Look at all the positives.🤔 Your distance is improving,👍 you are realising where you are going wrong👍. I really look forward to your joy when it all comes together and you hit the 200😲😂😂. I'm sure you will.👏 Maybe as you said, the rod is too stiff.🎣 Have you got a softer one you can use and compare the results.🤔 Your desire and enthusiasm will get you there.🎉🎉 Good luck and thanks for sharing.👍 Take care and stay safe.😷🙊
Thanks Ian I really appreciate it. I won't give in my goal is 200 lol I will keep practicing with this rod I don't have anything else and can't afford any more rods the wife would kill me 🤣
Good effort! It takes a lot of practice to get the timing right especially with a 14' 4" rod. The cast is slower. The DJ said it, try not to chop the cast, the left arm needs to stay straight and come around, the right will follow. Just my humble opinion but one of the most asthetic of casters is JP Shrader, he's silky smooth, great to watch & learn from. Keep at it pal. Lots of practice makes.....👍
watcha mate well done for the vid , I have watched loads of vids as well to learn like yourself , from what I think ive seen I think that with the pend cast you maybe should hit the lead just as it reaches the climax of its back trajectory so that as you come round the rod tip is a little lower and the lead just misses the ground on its compression part of the cast , hope that makes sense , I can see it my head but its hard to explain , hope this is useful and good luck (you have prob sorted it by now anyway lol 0keep up the vids you explain well and make things look good .
Thank you Keith. I understand what you mean I'm still doing off the ground for now to get used to the form. Hopefully I get time to edit the next installment and it will be out Friday at 6pm I think it's part 5 Thanks Dave
Hi Dave good video the distance you are hitting I would be thinking with rig and bait about 130 yds which is ideal for Bristol channel area to get 170 with rig and bait I definitely think it's instruction school and plenty of practice fair play to you for encouraging people who want to learn 👍👍👍👍
First cast the in swing and outswing was sound but you hit the cast too soon😁lead came right over the top 🫣 just practice slowing down and off the ground..I learnt the pendulum with a century 👍tip tornado ultralight 😉
Might be worth buying a range finder to measure how far the distance is m8 but hat off to you for trying and showing what real life casting is all about and all the mistakes that happen 👏👏 well done
I do have one but I'm not to worried about the exact distance as long as I know it's going further I'm getting better technically is my thinking. Hopefully my videos will.help and encourage others to get out and try
Doing well Dave don’t be fixated on distance at the min now get a casting ball and get your technique dialled in using the ball will slow everything down get ya swing right and won’t have far to reel in giving ya more practice time . But sound that video can’t knock a man for learning bud . We’ll done ✅
That’s it mate the ball will slow everything down u can use a dog ball in a washing tablet net bag . Just about keeping it all slow then build up speed
I would say try and slow things down and get so it feels right/better for you and then keep pinging it out a bit more, and a bit more. You have to find out what feels right for you. As in pendulum cast or left to right, right to left. I don't pendulum and think I can get better results from left, right ping. Practise practise is the only way mate. Looks good tho, Thats for sure. Brut force be with you :)
You hit it miles to early mate. Its an easy mistake to make its scary letting the lead come around past the tip, the tendency is to hit to early when starting 😉👍
Thank you for your input Matt I appreciate it. Not been out for ages now the fields are like bogs as soon as they dry up a bit I will get back out practicing
Hi Dave the wind should be off your back. At all casting comps they set up the court,with the wind behind you as you get better distances. The only fault yoy had with your pendulum cast was you hit it far to quick and you didnt hit it up.Hence it went to low. look up hit it up not so fast though. looks good though mate,really coming on. Oh yes last thing lead drop usually lead by your hand that grips the rod or a few inches lower. Most people are around there. And like Isaid Dave dont forget your rubber grip for the reel. I told you as you got better you would burn it,and it bloody hurts when you dont have rubber protection. You will get there dave everybody has to start at the beginning. You are no different to us all buddy. take care.
Slow down. Keep your left hand out as the lead climbs behind you start to turn. You will feel the lead go light that's when you start to bring the rod around look up and punch pull..
Hi dave in all honesty bud stick with otg till youve mastered that properly then move onto the pendulum not a bad effort for your very first go though mate lots of things not right this is why you need a competant caster to teach you they will point out and correct your mistakes save a lot of time doing all the wrong things and having to go back to the start when bad habbits have crept in bud .
I agree 💯 when I did it I was thinking just do otg till it's comes naturally and I don't have to think about it. You are right tho. I'm having to think about to many things and it's all completely going wrong
I ll do the casting vids with no sign of where the lead is. You need to fix a ball onto the weight so the viewer. Can see the route of the lead. Otherwise it is all a waste of time.
Please get an instructor. How many anglers have you killed on the beach?I learned to cast from Englishmen, the best pendulum casters around.If you live in the UK , there is no excuse for not finding casting help.
Well not sure if you can tell the difference between grass and sand but this is a field hence it's green. So no one is in harms way so I can practice. You will be glad to know I'm a lot better now.
Well done! Great 1st effort. Drop to upper hand is a good starting point. Classic beginners mistake of coming over the top and chopping the arc but everyone does this to some degree. Concentrate on rotating round with your hips rod comes round side and dont hit until left hand out infront of you towards the target. Take it real slow and feel rod load up before even think of hitting it.
Thanks you for your advice and input. Your one of the main reasons I started doing this I have been watching your videos for years around 4 or 5 years now. Advice from you feels amazing so thank you I will try take what you said on board next time I'm out. I think I'm going to stick to OTG for now get comfortable with that but I will try what you said above with the otg cast thank you I appreciate it
@@C3BFA yes defo work on the OTG get the rotation part sorted.
I will do thank you for your advice and input
Hi keep going please relax more carry the sinker with body rotation only when facing forward then put power in by pulling with your left hand
also dont take your eyes off the lead that way you can see what the lead does its helped me tremendously
All good mate, inspired to try myself 👍
Thank you guy. That's brilliant, be warned it's addictive 🤣🤣
Great video mate 👍 we've all been there 🎣 tight lines 🎣
Thanks Ian
Can't wait till you see the court 😜
Not me I'm going to miss this month due to work unfortunately but will get up there as soon as I can
First time I went to a tournament I was nervous as hell 💩bet you wont forget the feeling of standing of standing at the oche and giving it the beans😁think I got 197yds otg on my first attempt and thought I did really well ,then you see people reeling past you and not stopping 😜I didn't try a pendulum till I was consistently hitting 200yds👍 I've been to a lot of tournaments around the country and one thing I can guarantee is that nobody will look down at you and if they can help you they will 👍watch out though..it's addictive 😁all the best Lincoln 🤙👍
Gives us all, confidence to try welldobe
@@chrisellis4222 It's definitely worth getting put to try Chris. You will improve with practice ans there is so many helpful people out there via RUclips comments and fb. I still have worked the pendulum out yet but really want to at some point
You are getting better all the time. Can’t say much I only can do the overhead thump myself
Thanks lee i appreciate it
Hi dave
I think the caster your thinking of is neil mackellow casting over 300 yards, fantastic caster in his younger years sadly passed away in 2017.
Thanks Ron. It's not that caster I have never heard of his name. Such a Shane he passed away
I was always taught keep your right hand still and only move the rod with your left for pendulum
Ye I have been told similar but it's just hard to get your Brain to work with your arm 😂😂😂 well it is for me anyway. I know what I need to do but I can't do it lol
Did you master it in the end?
No I haven't even tried it yet I will be tho once field dry out and will video it
Did you leave the Knobby on or did you switch it out with a low profile knob. How did the Fathom II casting Special hold up for you. Nice Vid. A piece of Surgical tubing works great attached to the lower foot.
Sorry for the delay replying your comment had been held for some reason.
Yes the reel is fully original I have got used to the mag knobs now my old ones I had Chris macey do the mag knobs but these are ok and easier to take off mags mid flight. I like the reel a lot personally well made smooth. Will be getting back out soon to do more practice. To wet in the fields at the moment they are like bogs.
Top video Dave. Let me know if you're out next week, I'll tag along if that's ok. No distance caster but don't mind a bit of OTG 👌🏼
Not sure what I'm up to yet but definitely have to get out at some point which beach is closer to you ?
@@C3BFA Llanrhystud mate.
Perfect we will sort something soon
You seem to have got the sheep worried!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I don't think it's ideal doing it in this field to be honest but the farmer says carry on
Hi , I used to be a Sea Angler magazine casting instructor. I'll try and give some positive help, firstly you are right on a longer drop length to slow the pendulum swing down, but you are swing the lead to fast which will make timing the start cast difficult as it's going too fast. On your first pendulum you also got tip bounce this will muck up the pendulum swing. On the outswing of the pendulum the rod should be almost parallel with the ground, when the lead reaches the top of the outswing, you then push down and away with left hand and do not bring your right back towards you. If you have done this right, after the lead has swung back past you , you will feel as it goes over the top of the inswing, at this point you can start the cast. This is where most people learning the pendulum go wrong, they try and hit it at this point! You should sweep the rod around you accelerating as you do so , turn look up then hit it. It takes practice to get it right. There is no set style of pendulum it depends on you physical attributes. Thing to remember is you are trying to compress the rod and lock it and hold that, until you hit it. The only way way to hold the compression is through constant acceleration. The best way I can explain this is that the rod is both a spring and a lever, we want to store energy in the spring, the only way to keep that energy in the spring (rod ) is via constant applied force ( ie acceleration ). As soon as that force is reduced or removed , the stored energy is released.
So over all my advise is slow it all down and find a local casting instructor, he will be able to analyse what you are doing and point you in the right direction and lots of practice.
Any way tight lines and all the best!
Thank you for taking the tike to write all this I really do appreciate it. I will give it a try what your saying. Finding a casting instructor around by me isn't easy. I wanted to go to the casting downs down south Wales but I just can't get there as I'm always working on the days they have it on its very frustrating. I haven't been out practicing for a long time now unfortunately but I am very comfortable with the otg cast I do it without thinking now and not worring about how and when to hit it and it goes strait too. Been doing it with bait too.
I will take on board what you have said and try it thank you for taking the tike to do this for me.
Thanks Dave
I've got inner tube fixed to my rod with cable ties, essential to not burn your thumb and grip the spool well. That's one less thing to worry about!You seem to be not doing too bad, it takes practice. Have you tried slowing the cast down a bit, it might help with compressing the rod better and feel easier for you. Not snatching at the last minute and letting the rod do more of the work as it unloads might also mean you can use less brakes.
Thanks Alan for your input. I have been using innertube. Which was advised not sure I had it with me in this video tho. Yes that is definitely worth a try and I will give it a go thank you
Try the mini laid back Dave
I'm. Doing otg OK now 95% of the tike just need to transition to a pendulum or similar
Nice video. 👍We all have to learn.🧑🎓 Try not to be so down on yourself all the time.🥺🥺
Look at all the positives.🤔 Your distance is improving,👍 you are realising where you are going wrong👍. I really look forward to your joy when it all comes together and you hit the 200😲😂😂. I'm sure you will.👏
Maybe as you said, the rod is too stiff.🎣 Have you got a softer one you can use and compare the results.🤔
Your desire and enthusiasm will get you there.🎉🎉 Good luck and thanks for sharing.👍
Take care and stay safe.😷🙊
Thanks Ian I really appreciate it. I won't give in my goal is 200 lol
I will keep practicing with this rod I don't have anything else and can't afford any more rods the wife would kill me 🤣
Dean booker does a good 1 mate
I will have a look on RUclips for it thank you
Good effort!
It takes a lot of practice to get the timing right especially with a 14' 4" rod. The cast is slower. The DJ said it, try not to chop the cast, the left arm needs to stay straight and come around, the right will follow.
Just my humble opinion but one of the most asthetic of casters is JP Shrader, he's silky smooth, great to watch & learn from.
Keep at it pal.
Lots of practice makes.....👍
Your spot on dean it really isn't as easy as it looks. I want to get back out practicing but the boat build is taking up all my spare time
11.03 was a decent chuck mate
Thank you darrin. I need to get back out soon. Just to wet still in the fields unfortunately
watcha mate well done for the vid , I have watched loads of vids as well to learn like yourself , from what I think ive seen I think that with the pend cast you maybe should hit the lead just as it reaches the climax of its back trajectory so that as you come round the rod tip is a little lower and the lead just misses the ground on its compression part of the cast , hope that makes sense , I can see it my head but its hard to explain , hope this is useful and good luck (you have prob sorted it by now anyway lol 0keep up the vids you explain well and make things look good .
Thank you Keith. I understand what you mean I'm still doing off the ground for now to get used to the form. Hopefully I get time to edit the next installment and it will be out Friday at 6pm I think it's part 5
Thanks Dave
Hi Dave good video the distance you are hitting I would be thinking with rig and bait about 130 yds which is ideal for Bristol channel area to get 170 with rig and bait I definitely think it's instruction school and plenty of practice fair play to you for encouraging people who want to learn 👍👍👍👍
I'm only doing over head thumbs when fishing can't otg grip leads
Yes exactly Langer's I hope more people do get in to it
Hi you may find it easier if you reduce thd amou t of line on your real, just an idea
@@chrisellis4222 ye I think I would of back then I am OK now I got used to it
Enjoyed the video mate . Just need to slow it down for the pendulum and get comfortable with the arm position first
Thank you. I really want to get back out and make more videos. Still not doing pendulum yet I really need to
Im no expert but i find putting less line and not filling it so much on my fathom cs seems to hit it further wiv less birdies every time 👍
Thanks fishy. I spooled these to the max and so for no birdies 🤞 hopefully it stays that way
First cast the in swing and outswing was sound but you hit the cast too soon😁lead came right over the top 🫣 just practice slowing down and off the ground..I learnt the pendulum with a century 👍tip tornado ultralight 😉
Thanks blades non of it felt right tbh lol. I'm going to stick to OTG till that feels natural
Might be worth buying a range finder to measure how far the distance is m8 but hat off to you for trying and showing what real life casting is all about and all the mistakes that happen 👏👏 well done
I do have one but I'm not to worried about the exact distance as long as I know it's going further I'm getting better technically is my thinking. Hopefully my videos will.help and encourage others to get out and try
Doing well Dave don’t be fixated on distance at the min now get a casting ball and get your technique dialled in using the ball will slow everything down get ya swing right and won’t have far to reel in giving ya more practice time .
But sound that video can’t knock a man for learning bud . We’ll done ✅
I agree 💯 radar distance isn't important right now I need to do otg without thinking and do it right and strait and high lol
That’s it mate the ball will slow everything down u can use a dog ball in a washing tablet net bag . Just about keeping it all slow then build up speed
Thanks radar I appreciate your help and input
I would say try and slow things down and get so it feels right/better for you and then keep pinging it out a bit more, and a bit more. You have to find out what feels right for you. As in pendulum cast or left to right, right to left. I don't pendulum and think I can get better results from left, right ping. Practise practise is the only way mate. Looks good tho, Thats for sure. Brut force be with you :)
Thank you Matt I think I need to stick to OTG for now till that feels natural and I'm doing it right. Thanks for your input Matt
hellicopter cast i call it
That is probably the right name lol I more than likely got it wrong
You hit it miles to early mate. Its an easy mistake to make its scary letting the lead come around past the tip, the tendency is to hit to early when starting 😉👍
Thank you for your input Matt I appreciate it. Not been out for ages now the fields are like bogs as soon as they dry up a bit I will get back out practicing
@@C3BFA what other social media are you on 😉👍
All of them lol
Instagram
Tiktok
Reddit
Twitter
Facebook
All based on my channel name
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Or cardigan bay fishing adventures
Oioi dave mate
Jamie 👋 hope your doing ok
@@C3BFA yeah all good mate nice little casting sesh mate ull be a pro before long
Be years Jamie but I will keep at it
Hi Dave the wind should be off your back. At all casting comps they set up the court,with the wind behind you as you get better distances. The only fault yoy had with your pendulum cast was you hit it far to quick and you didnt hit it up.Hence it went to low. look up hit it up not so fast though. looks good though mate,really coming on. Oh yes last thing lead drop usually lead by your hand that grips the rod or a few inches lower. Most people are around there. And like Isaid Dave dont forget your rubber grip for the reel. I told you as you got better you would burn it,and it bloody hurts when you dont have rubber protection. You will get there dave everybody has to start at the beginning. You are no different to us all buddy. take care.
Thank you Chris I really appreciate all your input
Slow down. Keep your left hand out as the lead climbs behind you start to turn. You will feel the lead go light that's when you start to bring the rod around look up and punch pull..
Thank you Thomas you make it sound so easy 🤣🤣 I wish it was that simple
looks like roast lamb for T
😂😂😂😂😂😂 How did you know
Lift off, lol
🤣🤣🤣 as long as I hold on I'm happy
@@C3BFA 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hi dave in all honesty bud stick with otg till youve mastered that properly then move onto the pendulum not a bad effort for your very first go though mate lots of things not right this is why you need a competant caster to teach you they will point out and correct your mistakes save a lot of time doing all the wrong things and having to go back to the start when bad habbits have crept in bud .
I agree 💯 when I did it I was thinking just do otg till it's comes naturally and I don't have to think about it. You are right tho. I'm having to think about to many things and it's all completely going wrong
I ll do the casting vids with no sign of where the lead is. You need to fix a ball onto the weight so the viewer. Can see the route of the lead. Otherwise it is all a waste of time.
I did In my earlier videos but the lead destroys the balls and it gets expensive
Please get an instructor. How many anglers have you killed on the beach?I learned to cast from Englishmen, the best pendulum casters around.If you live in the UK , there is no excuse for not finding casting help.
Well not sure if you can tell the difference between grass and sand but this is a field hence it's green. So no one is in harms way so I can practice.
You will be glad to know I'm a lot better now.