the BTD6 tower SO BAD, it got REMOVED

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 29 янв 2025

Комментарии • 120

  • @marxunemiku
    @marxunemiku 3 месяца назад +504

    this is a good illustration for people who want chipper back to see what a broken tower is like. there was no way to balance soulbind in such a way so that it's not completely unusable or completely op, it's unbalanceable in concept and so can't be in the game.

    • @UltraLegoEnthusiast
      @UltraLegoEnthusiast 3 месяца назад +30

      thats not why chipper isnt in the game, bottom mermonkey does exactly what chipper did. they didnt want to add it because.. they just didnt like it, i suppose, or maybe they planned on adding its functionality in the mermonkey.

    • @marxunemiku
      @marxunemiku 3 месяца назад +56

      @@UltraLegoEnthusiast they have stated scores of times that they aren't adding it because it's unbalanceable.

    • @pt.r
      @pt.r 3 месяца назад +30

      But 2 years later rohan spibo also said this: "Realistically anything can be 'balanced' with enough thought in the numbers, we just didn't really want to deal with it again"
      So there's your real reason it wasn't added
      Edit: my other comment got deleted for some reason, originally rohan said they never said it was overpowered and that it was the community that said that

    • @punishedwhispers1218
      @punishedwhispers1218 2 месяца назад +5

      If it was based on the tier, maybe a Tier 3 soulbinded tower could tank a moab, a tier 4 a BFB, and a Tier 5 a ZOMG or DDT, it could be interesting in application as just an insurance. But it would also need a use outside of the soulbind

    • @bluerious5475
      @bluerious5475 2 месяца назад +6

      @@UltraLegoEnthusiastBottom mermonkey is very different from Chipper. It doesn’t permanently stun MOABs, nor does it do much damage to them at all. Chipper was broken since it targeted the strongest MOAB in the game and kept them in permanent stunlock. Every other upgrade was useless. The instant super wide funnel lost ZOMG targeting, it turned into the worst tower in the game. Mermonkey is nothing like that.

  • @fangsup726
    @fangsup726 2 месяца назад +50

    2:36
    I know NOW that its a Rudolf nose, but when the MOAB came on screen for a half a second I went: "Why are your Pufferfish MOABS wearing a ball gag?!"

  • @justinthyme5263
    @justinthyme5263 3 месяца назад +199

    When i first saw Soulbind, i felt like it should’ve been free since it drains money

  • @demitrischoenwald1436
    @demitrischoenwald1436 2 месяца назад +57

    I was there when Soulbind was introduced.
    I think we all agree, it absolutely did not belong, even if conceptually it made sense.
    The modern PoD is so much cooler and fits the theme of a proper necromancer much better.

  • @keithwiechart7744
    @keithwiechart7744 Месяц назад +21

    I played BTD6 when it came out and I upgraded the Necromancer wizard path as one of my first T5 towers. I was so disappointed by Soulbind and I am so glad NK changed it to Prince of Darkness. It seems rather standard now, but the hype of being able to summon zombie MOABs and BFBs back then was crazy.

  • @MugslyJrIII
    @MugslyJrIII 10 месяцев назад +385

    this post was fact checked by real filipino patriots

    • @Hey_Icy
      @Hey_Icy 2 месяца назад +2

      Yes

    • @TimothyJamesCidro
      @TimothyJamesCidro 2 месяца назад

      what

    • @Turkwithknife
      @Turkwithknife 2 месяца назад

      Real

    • @Wolan-_-1
      @Wolan-_-1 2 месяца назад

      what

    • @Bitterbugboy
      @Bitterbugboy 2 месяца назад +1

      Republic of the Philippines is a south-east asian country made up of several thousand islands known for its many ethnic groups, languages, and more.

  • @Kloakss
    @Kloakss 10 месяцев назад +91

    Hmm I think I’ve seen this video before🤔

  • @vorbibben
    @vorbibben 3 месяца назад +43

    the moment I saw it was competing with perma spike I was like: yep. this towers cooked. (v1 perma spike was fucking nuts)

    • @uuytk
      @uuytk Месяц назад +9

      Spike factory patch notes for 6 years now be like :
      -Please will somebody use the top path
      -perma spike now gives you ball cancer

  • @RonZhang
    @RonZhang 3 месяца назад +25

    2:32 pspike cost is medium cost, soulbind cost in hard

  • @genghiskhan6688
    @genghiskhan6688 10 месяцев назад +66

    I think the video didn't explain well why was this tower not just unbalaced, but unbalanceable. I mean, prince of darkness was awful until they made it OP then nerfed into just pretty good, but what was so different mechanically about Soulbind that it couldn't have been balanced by just changing the numbers around, like having it cost 1 dollar of sacrifice per RBE instead of 100?
    BTW ur editing is awesome. I'd love to see you upload more frequently.
    also, based village macaco flag enjoyer

    • @ImJohnNathan
      @ImJohnNathan  10 месяцев назад +13

      thanks for the feedback gangstalicious

    • @MugslyJrIII
      @MugslyJrIII 10 месяцев назад +3

      genghis khan with the great advice as usual

    • @goatnoodles9162
      @goatnoodles9162 3 месяца назад

      If you could make lives, you could theoretically survive better than a vtsg because Freeplay does not change the lives lost when leaking bloons

  • @tpfoxCastro
    @tpfoxCastro 3 месяца назад +87

    0:31 Aged badly LOL

    • @Groovylonglegs
      @Groovylonglegs 3 месяца назад +1

      Why?

    • @tpfoxCastro
      @tpfoxCastro 3 месяца назад +30

      @@Groovylonglegs Because he got buffed in recent updates and now is quite goo

    • @Groovylonglegs
      @Groovylonglegs 3 месяца назад +3

      @@tpfoxCastro ah, thanks

    • @turmspitzewerk
      @turmspitzewerk 3 месяца назад +4

      it really is bizarre how he went virtually untouched for like 2 years though, despite being almost universally pure bottom tier. even below ben, who is outright designed to have 2/3rds of his features be banned in chimps

    • @tpfoxCastro
      @tpfoxCastro 3 месяца назад +1

      @@turmspitzewerk I think they were just affraid, because he was very good before. Like, Obyn was the hero used to first beat muddy and bloody puddles and was generally great when the game came out, so I kinda get their fear.

  • @e.g.8018
    @e.g.8018 2 месяца назад +7

    I think if soulbind’s cost per life was heavily reduced, it could’ve been good and pair with spam strategies like Moab mauler spam.

  • @wingidon
    @wingidon 2 месяца назад +16

    4:10 If your plan involves failure, create a better plan.

  • @ImJohnNathan
    @ImJohnNathan  10 месяцев назад +40

    Reuploaded because there was a visual glitch D: sry

    • @MugslyJrIII
      @MugslyJrIII 10 месяцев назад +2

      minor editing mistake

    • @ImJohnNathan
      @ImJohnNathan  10 месяцев назад +2

      @@MugslyJrIIIJohn Eggbert

    • @alt2137pl
      @alt2137pl 10 месяцев назад

      i didn't even notice while watching the original you prob just killed your vid

    • @tpfoxCastro
      @tpfoxCastro 3 месяца назад

      Fun fact, it would take 9290000$ for Soulbind to ignore a fortified BAD.
      So it is terrible, even in ultra lategame freeplay

  • @Alexgaming-u9h
    @Alexgaming-u9h 2 месяца назад +15

    what would happen if somebody has Soulbound in game save slot for years

  • @ihavenofriendsc874
    @ihavenofriendsc874 5 месяцев назад +27

    The soulbind is completely different from the prince of darkness
    The scribble on its hood is different

  • @obamagaming9456
    @obamagaming9456 Месяц назад

    I remember I played this game on launch then stopped for a while. When I came back the rework had already happened but I didn't know that it had been reworked. I was so confused why I remembered the Prince of darkness being completely useless when it so clearly wasnt. I have my answer now. V1.0 was a very odd time.

  • @battle_cats_enjoyer5332
    @battle_cats_enjoyer5332 Месяц назад +1

    0:20 2:14 TF2 SOUND EFFECTS LETS GOOOO

  • @alexharvey7660
    @alexharvey7660 Месяц назад +1

    It is almost unbelievable how bad this tower sounds... 100 dollars per life, with an upfront cost of over 20k? Wtf is even the use case for that LMAO

  • @teckhbug9481
    @teckhbug9481 Месяц назад +1

    4:04 is that a Vortrox reference or am I tripping

  • @erikburzinski8248
    @erikburzinski8248 Месяц назад

    I knew something changed about the moabs when I came back

  • @Rip_GamingBacon
    @Rip_GamingBacon 2 месяца назад +1

    the prince of darkness helped me a lot when i played how was it bad?

    • @mushy9612
      @mushy9612 Месяц назад

      Towers in this game buffed and nerfs all the time. The video released 8 months before your comment so maybe it got buffed

  • @PerpetuusTenebris
    @PerpetuusTenebris 2 месяца назад +8

    I still want bloonchipper back. It's the entire reason I bought BTD6 in the first place, cause I wanted to see it be used again in the newest TD# game.

    • @sunitakhadka9154
      @sunitakhadka9154 Месяц назад

      It's to powerful to be in the game

    • @PerpetuusTenebris
      @PerpetuusTenebris Месяц назад

      @@sunitakhadka9154 Then make it cost a lot of money, I don't care lol
      It's Bloons, it's meant to be stupid fun monkey killing balloon game, ban it in competitive if it's that bad

    • @cali69420
      @cali69420 Месяц назад

      Ha good luck that shit is way 2 op to be in the game again

    • @PerpetuusTenebris
      @PerpetuusTenebris Месяц назад

      @@cali69420Except, it's really not. There's many ways to make it not so, too.

    • @PerpetuusTenebris
      @PerpetuusTenebris Месяц назад +2

      @@sunitakhadka9154 How? There's nothing preventing it, the power can be toned down to "reasonable" levels, however Ninja Kiwi foolishly decides that.

  • @rakenzarnsworld2
    @rakenzarnsworld2 2 месяца назад +4

    How about sacrificing only $1 per life?

    • @The_Deep_Blue
      @The_Deep_Blue Месяц назад

      that feels like the complete opposite issue, least on paper

  • @shwoop3273
    @shwoop3273 Месяц назад

    Just pitted an obyn against quincy they performed the same What do you mean obyn is bad?

  • @RonZhang
    @RonZhang 3 месяца назад

    Yes, Bloons Wiki calls it a new upgrade

  • @London_Prime
    @London_Prime 2 месяца назад +1

    Do you know of / watch TF2? There are a LOT of TF2 sounde effects in this video.

  • @keegangunn1645
    @keegangunn1645 2 месяца назад

    Soulbind would be busted with modern farming techniques

  • @hg5172
    @hg5172 3 месяца назад +1

    I knew it

  • @olgacuervo4305
    @olgacuervo4305 2 месяца назад

    It was too good that’s why you can commit br meast

  • @Obedthian-UK
    @Obedthian-UK 2 месяца назад

    RIP

  • @YunusBiyoloji
    @YunusBiyoloji Месяц назад

    I said soulbind 😭

  • @Kevin.Tabligan
    @Kevin.Tabligan 3 месяца назад

    Why's he's worst

  • @trollsansofficial
    @trollsansofficial Месяц назад +1

    Poopybind

  • @SAPBTD
    @SAPBTD 2 месяца назад +1

    It was to good not to bad

    • @dzikidzikers4082
      @dzikidzikers4082 2 месяца назад

      There was no real good use for the tower. I don't know how can he be too good

  • @4311Thanatos
    @4311Thanatos 2 месяца назад

    It doesnt say it goes in the negatives so you can just use a dart monky to get 1 life and survive it doesnt say it has to compisate for the lives lost bru its op

    • @dzikidzikers4082
      @dzikidzikers4082 2 месяца назад

      I'm not sure if i understand you correctly, but i don't think you understand how this tower works. You need to get enough lives from a tower to survive. Otherwise you will still lose

  • @1C31YEUNGYUIMING楊睿銘
    @1C31YEUNGYUIMING楊睿銘 2 месяца назад

    It wasn’t actually removed but renamed

    • @dzikidzikers4082
      @dzikidzikers4082 2 месяца назад +2

      Prince of darkness and Soulbind are completely different towers. Different attacks, names e.t.c. the only thing that they share are 3, 4 tier attacks and their appearance

  • @Aviation267
    @Aviation267 2 месяца назад

    It was moved because it was too good

    • @dzikidzikers4082
      @dzikidzikers4082 2 месяца назад

      Nope. You had to sacriface very good towers, that cost a lot of money for it to save you. I don't know if there's a good use for this tower

  • @IloveMidgetbro
    @IloveMidgetbro 3 месяца назад +1

    Yk it was removed because it was too good right? If you had enough money generation you could just survive forever

    • @dzikidzikers4082
      @dzikidzikers4082 2 месяца назад +2

      But overtime bloons get faster and faster. You're not gonna keep up, and you will still lose, so even in this specific strategy it's not that good

    • @IloveMidgetbro
      @IloveMidgetbro 2 месяца назад

      @@dzikidzikers4082 Yh but then you would have survived way past what you Should have done by then

    • @radical_rat
      @radical_rat 2 месяца назад +3

      If you're making/spending that kind of money, Legend of the Night is a better investment. For the price of surviving 3ish MOABs with Soulbind, you get a tower that actually contributes damage to prevent needing a failsafe in the first place, and if anything does leak it just kills everything for free without compromising your defense. Plus, it works on CHIMPS (theoretically at least, saving up for it is unlikely).
      But then if you assume you have infinite money to pour into Soulbind, you still have a ten second cooldown on the ability. So you need to be able to generate ten seconds worth of lives in a single sacrifice. That stops being sustainable even before Freeplay.

  • @kobibarham8566
    @kobibarham8566 2 месяца назад

    WHO CARES IF HES THE WORST HE COOL

  • @humdrumpuma
    @humdrumpuma 10 месяцев назад +13

    Dude!!!! This video CHANGED MY LIFE, thanks for giving my mom cancer!