The most depressing part of playing Starfield is knowing that Bethesda is going to do the exact same thing with Elder Scrolls 6. If this is peak RPG for Bethesda then I have no more optimism for the next Elder Scrolls title and they have killed any hype I may have felt.
Starfield? More like- STANfield! People will worship the game, but I've been calling out Todd and boycotting the work since he initially "borrowed" the properties of Fallout and Elders from what were essentially his predecessors and mentors. Every game is less game and more stuff that happens and each cycle he has less and less and less lore to work with and less world to show for it. Hes not recovering intellectual property nearly at all. I doubt he has writers or even makes notes because what he does add to the properties is always a less interesting version of a mechanic from another game and; Stanfield. Is the absolute best possible example i could have asked for of what TODD HOWARD is actually capable. He doesn't have any good intellectual properties to rip off this time! You know why? He entered a genre where we were already just barely getting by! Space! We don't have any good space IPs out here for him to have ripped off! What we have are some very good space Sims and a Nameless Sky and we just sort of have fun with it all! Todd understands none of this and just scooped up the most basic understanding of the whole genre and spat out a solution to problems we never had!!! I think most of his actual Starfield fans are all Bethesda mainstays who truly have no idea what they're playing but, I've already played all of it!!! And, as we know, space gets boring pretty easily.
@@j.c.denton2060 Same. I keep seeing people that Starfield is Bethesda at their best. I see that kind of stuff and I start thinking: "Aw, hell no. I'm definitely never checking out their other games now. Nuh uh."
And I'm pretty sure they still couldn't program a proper vehicle anyway with their ancient ass engine. It's a miracle that Skyrim has horses. It's also inexcusable how many loading screens there are despite the game requiring SSD.
I’ve been wanting planet vehicles desperately but now that I read this comment and discovered the exact same structures twice or more… yeah, you’re absolutely right. This is the most disappointing thing about the game. The whole magic of exploration in Bethesda games, just non existent. I still enjoy the things the game has to offer but the excitement is definitely gone.
@@valentinvas6454 „I'm pretty sure they still couldn't program a proper vehicle anyway with their ancient ass engine“ They have made Vertibirds usable in Fallout 4 so it is very much possible.
Vehicles would have crashed the game, seriously you gotta have good hardware to play this game and even the best hardware only gets you about ~70 FPS in 4K, have a good cpu paired with 4090 I know.
My favorite part about Starfield is load screening out of a building to load screen into my ship to load screen to another destination to load screen into that destination to fill out a job application then load screen back into my ship to load screen to my destination to load screen out of my ship to load screen into a building to talk to a guy
It’s so true, does anyone at BGS or Todd understand that in a fucking space “exploration” game that the players would wanna fly the damn spaceship around. I can’t believe I’m about to say this but I have more hope in ubisofts Star Wars outlaws
@@Shadow.in.Historyyou all let yourselves down expecting all that shit you made up in your heads. When this was announced I expected fallout in space, I got fallout in space and I’m not a bit disappointed. Idk what game y’all thought you were getting but this is what I expected from Bethesda 🤷♀️ I’m content and dlc and mods will only make it better over time
@@jeffhelmick8065okay you fanboys are starting to sound like literal bots, I’ve seen your comment copy and pasted so many times, if it’s so fun why aren’t you enjoying it instead of looking up critcism to defend it? You people are so sad and need to go outside, it’s like this game is your girlfriend since you don’t have one in real life
@@AmericanTrucker89 I’m not saying it’s game of the year but y’all set your expectations too high Bethesda delivered what they promised 🤷♀️ and as for flying the ship around Todd already mentioned why they decided not to go that route “because people would inevitably find ways to use this to break the game”
It's kinda funny that BG3 launched earlier than Starfield to avoid being overshadowed by it, instead BG3 overshadowed Starfield. Oh how the turn tables 😂
There is no turning of tables,Baldurs Gate was always going to be a 1000 miles ahead of this trash. Only people who think there are tables to be turned are people who think Skyrim is a good game....Its not....Bathesda never made a good game.
@@FoxyCAMTVAs amazing as Larians past games were they were always niche. As lazy as Bethesdas games have always been they were mainstream. Before the release of Baldurs gate 3 its pretty easy to see how Starfield woudlve over shadowed it. What i dont get is after the past few ips from Bethesda how anyone can still get hyped for their games. Its like getting hyped for a Ubisoft game, ill never know how its possible 😅
Remember the amazing nightclub in Omega in Mass Effect 2? The music, the lights, the dancers? It was 13 years ago. Bethesda games launch games that are older than the old ones.
Honestly, I looked at some old footage of Mass Effect 2... Better animation and character art. Honestly prettier. Star Wars: Jedi Survivor Starfield is not.
Their environments and livliness of their worlds always feel like an old west movie set to me. They make it look like its suppoesed to be lively, but put no effort in past there.
I feel you dog. After 60 hrs of Starfield, I was like Forrest Gump when he was just instantly sick of running all over the damn country. I literally stopped mid-play. Nah, I'm cool. Gonna go eat grass, or whatever we supoda do with it.
Same happened to me. I played about 60 hours, trying my hardest to enjoy it, I was in denial because I wanted to badly to love it. But last night while playing I found myself bored to death. I was considering just rushing through the main quests so that it could be over and I can move onto to a different game, but I thought whats the point, life is too short. I then uninstalled it
I was saying to my friends that somehow Starfield feels smaller than previous Bethesda games. Initially I was excited to explore but once you've seen one planet, you've seen them all. There's nothing to find. No loot worth hunting down. Even smuggling is pointless. The fact you lose everything when you start NG+ renders everything you do as absolutely pointless.
The fact you lose everything when you start NG+ renders everything you do as absolutely pointless. That's Bethesda for you, making dumb decisions like that is what they do best.
If you get really bored play all the properties in order. Every time he puts out a new main title there's always less content but he just makes it all nicer and bigger and guts mechanics. He basically rips off all his ideas from previous people. Elders and Fallout are both properties that predate todd and most of the story is written before he ever shows to the scene! It shows, too, Skyrim is barely an elderscrolls and Fallout 4 is barely a Fallout and now Starfield is barely anything at all! The guy has zero creativity, he's a snake oil salesman.
@@livingart2576How is he wrong, exactly? Have you actually played a mage in Skyrim? I doubt it. It's a fucking dreadful and pathetic experience compared to older TES games
This game can easily be considered a 9. The only reason people are talking bad about it was because of the hype it had on release. If this game had no hype on release people would be praising this game as an underrated amazing game. It’s crazy what hype can do to how people think of a game.
@@yngtrey1638 First of all, everyone has its own reason(s) to love or dislike a game. My reason (and it has nothing to do with hype cause I don't give a shit) for quitting the game after 40 hours was pure boredom, a very uninteresting main story, too many loading screens which break the immersion completely and the typical Bethesda bugs (this game has more things and people floating around than a f*cking Harry Potter movie). Oh yes, I really loved the ship building, but that's about it. All the rest is very mediocre for a 2023 game released by one of the biggest studios around. That's MY personal opinion.
@@wardvandecotte9253 never said you had to like it or dislike it personally, just said the idea of it being widely considered a mediocre game is due to expectations and hype. If most people found this game 2 years later and had no idea about what it was, 90% of people would think it was great. Also not trying to discredit your opinion but a boring story??? It’s literally a mystery about finding out potential extraterrestrial life..? How is that boring? Would you rather a typical story about tracking down a big bad boss and beating him?
@@yngtrey1638 My dear friend, I'm happy you like the game and you have tons of fun playing it. That's great, your money well spent. For me it wasn't. I moved forward and now I'm playing CP2077 for the very first time and it's a real blast. Ps: a tip, after finishing SF give Baldur's Gate 3 a try, you'll be blown away 👍
@@wardvandecotte9253 played it already, great game. Better than Starfield for sure. CP is a great game as well. I feel like you took my comment the wrong way lol, have a good day man 👍
As bad as cyberpunk was at launch. Damn near all of its major side quests are better then any mission in starfield. One of the best side quests I have ever played in a game that felt like a writer who never got to put his story into a full experience got the opportunity to in cyberpunk and he didn’t disappoint. I’m talking about the “I fought the law” quest. What even better this quest leads you to another quest that’s also great. RPG done pretty well for a first person shooter experience.
Cyberpunk always had a great story, great characters, great world-building, great locations and all-around great writing. This is what was shining through its technical mess and lots of other features missing at launch. Starfield has none of those greats.
There's a dude on RUclips, Benjamin Winters. He does INSANE videos of gameplay in cyberpunk. He did one on Starfield. The difference in combat gameplay is staggering.
I started Starfield today and my first Betheda game. What I can see the problem are the terrible pacing, bad UI flow, weight carry issue, quests are kinda boring, and NPC are always trying to hypnotize me. I like space combat, but I can see it will get boring fast, just don't like looting the floating enemy cargo.
Cyberpunk only had Bugs that wrecked It... Gameplay, Story, world was all top notch. Starfield has Bugs, shit story, world is boring and repetitive and gameplay is fallout 4
I bought Starfield for $100 to get the early access. I played for a few hours, got bored, then started playing Battletech a turned based MechWarrior game. I've been playing that for 2 weeks straight and to me, it's much more fun.
After playing BG3 for 150 hours, you really notice how in Starfield, the top dialogue option is always the "right one". The RPG element tells such weak stories in comparison.
Haha yeah that's not becessarily true the likeable option is generally the correct one but I've had plenty of modifications t9 missions coming from alternate dialog.
@SheldonDarianRoach Yeah. The mission is called a Crack in the Slab. Target was Aramis Stilton. He's insane in present time due to witnessing Delilah's ritual, and his mansion's a ruin. You shift back and forth through time to get around the obstacles. You can deal with Aramis by taking him out or by knocking him out, negating his witnessing the ritual and eventual insanity, and restoring his estate.
5:20 this perfectly describes my problem with recent Bethesda games and their design philosophy. I feel they've gotten so lost in the "say yes to the player" they forgot that it's not always applicable. Sometimes saying no to the player can create something interesting.
Bethesda has almost continually said, “no” to the players in Fallout 76. Yet, in its own perverse way, FO76 just as bland and generic as Starfield… and becomes more so every release which nerfs even more stuff. Even when they say, “no”, they still don’t do it right.
Or even sometimes restricting the player to scripted stuff can help. Cyberpunk is loads more immersive cause it has those continuous first person cutscenes where you're gettin bashed around and exploded. Same with mission design. If you're an inconsiderate dick in cyberpunk you'll get treated like one by the world.
You can land anywhere by holding mouse down. Gives you a 6km-ish zone with procedural stuff or at least their pathetic version of it. There are only a few outpost designs, they are always the same layout all the way down to enemies and loot boxes.
I think the most egregious landing for me was an actual curated zone and the landing zone AT this curated location wasn't big enough to accommodate my ship. So when I landed, the cockpit was full of tree branches. Gimme a fucking break, Bethesda!
The worst is the fact every thing is in the exact same spot. Loot, enemy spawns spawn in the exact same locations every time you get that outpost or cave.
I'm not really surprised Bethesda's RPG structure hasn't changed in 15 years. Lots of people have tons of nostalgia for those early games and keep bringing that to each new entry. I personally never had that and I'm astonished they think a game like this is anywhere near the level of BG3
15? It only changes when the technology changes- so there's only two version of both IP. The original, and Todd's. If it looks terrible but has tons of depth? Thats an original. Is it pretty and- has- stuff reminiscent of the previous but not quite as good? Thats always todd.
@fxhzwingzero BG3 actually doesn't have the same feeling a lot of other top down games have. Good thing is you can change the camera angle to feel like a more traditional third person rpg, only bad thing about camera I don't like is thay you can't look up, that sucks. Honestly I'd give it a chance, I felt the same way about turned based combat and games similar to it, and by trying DOS2 and loving that game, it's opened the door for so many amazing experiences. Namely octopath traveler, BG3 Pathfinder WotR and fire emblem 3 houses to name a few. It's really worth giving it a chance.
I love how when you are in orbit the planets are literally just jpegs. The fact the planets don't appear bigger or smaller depending how you move kills any sense of speed. You can be going 1000 mph towards a planet and it looks and feels the same as not moving at all
@@CosminCRTThe problem is that this game isn't trying to be realistic. The planets are extremely low-rez balls on rails and there are no orbital mechanics to speak of. The space ships also travel unrealistically slowly to deter you from trying to not fast travel everywhere and stop you from thinking you could go to a planet manually.
@@CosminCRTDepends on speed. Go to Elite Dangerous, fly around systems there in super-cruise mode. But even in normal mode you can move around. It's slow, but noticeable. But yeah, for that speed should measure in hundreds of meters per second. At least.
You should do more reviews cross. This was the most put together review I’ve seen. Everyone else has hard time putting their finger on why they do or don’t like it but you got straight to the point
@@davidcorodeanu4535 It's not a really good game, my dude. It's a mod platform that'll get better later. As a game, it's not even as good as vanilla skyrim was.
@@lofi1598😂 there it is even when he plays it thru and thru people will still claim otherwise ur game is shit and didn’t live up to the hype it’s ok maybe next time
@@trustypatches669My man, you were in such a hurry to type out a defensive comment that you even forgot to use punctuation. Calm down, not everyone has to like your game.
Does anyone remember in skyrim on Xbox the game would let you actually speak the dragon shouts with your own voice and it would work. Just a gimmick but it was pretty fun
Yeah with the Kinect! I remember memorizing shouts like Wuld Na Kest, and my family questioning me on why I was shouting at the screen. Actually immersed you in the game Language and had you learning the different shouts
The problem isn't the Bethesda-ness of it, it's the fact that they haven't evolved their gameplay systems or engine to evolve it over the past 2 decades. It IS possible to have a unique Bethesda quality to their games while still pushing technology and systems forward. They just can't do it for whatever reason.
Dishonored 2 did two realities, like past and present time jumping mission much more compact/shorter, and less boring/annoying. Starfield does this it feels you walking through filler rooms, to waste your time, not to find something new. And there are some rooms, where every bloody locker/crate/box/computer is locked.
@@JChrist69 Really? BG3 is a really awesome game. But I can only see myself playing it 2-3 times because it is kind of linear in it's story. That is why I think it needs modding tools
11:42 The dark brotherhood in oblivion actually had consequences for going against them. You would be thrown out and "The Wrath of Sithis" would come to you in your sleep to kill you xD If you survived you could return.
In BG3, my friends and I decided to murder all of the story party members. 3 in game days later we were hit with a game over from leaving one person in particular dead. I respect the game for punishing us for our choices. Well done.
I waited for this game for years, and it's my favorite game genre, but I'm sad to say I agree with everything Cross said. 2023 will be forever a sad year for me after the huge disappointments with Starfield and Diablo 4 (one of my favorite franchises ever).
Yeah, sadly and ironically bethesda officially joined blizzard on the corporate greed side of game development. Blizzard used to be that ambitious studio with the best mmo out there and turned into a greedy company that killed virtually every good title they had.
I have been waiting for a whole year. Almost everyday I was thinking about how this was going to be a Skyrim 2.0. I havent play the game for 3 weeks and probably wont again. Its actually bad.
I agree with most of this. The exploration doesn't work because there is nothing to discover. Also, I despise the fact that the "dungeons" are all identical. If you have seen one "abandoned cryo facility" then you've seen them all. All the doors and even enemies are in the same places. Even the difficulty level of the locks seem to be the same. Once I realized, I never visited the marked "facilities" on planets or moons unless it was a specific mission to go there. Also... inventory management. No stores have money and you are constantly getting stuff to sell. And you must sell if you want to afford a proper ship, yet the stores rarely hold over 5000 cash. Then there's the issue of the tone. The entire game seems so friendly and un-grimy. I thought Neon would be this big, sprawling city with questionable people, but it's just a tiny "cyber theme park" that feels empty (though it was still my favorite location in Starfield). Comparing it to Night City in Cyberpunk 2077 is ridiculous. All the cities are so small. It feels like there's only a few thousand people living in the entire galaxy. Like: why are people living on desolate moons when 99.99% of the surface of Jemison is lush greenery? I would expect "New Atlantis" to be a planet-wide city (basically being the capital of humanity). And yes, I didn't expect to be able to explore all of it (obviously), but at least give me the sense of size. New Atlantis seems to have housing for a few thousand people tops. Where is everyone?
Exploring New Atlantis with my boostpack is really disappointing, a lot of the area not supposed to be seen are just weird, the entire city just abruptly end with the jungle, there's no exit gate or something, shucks
Finally! A review that reflect exactly what I've experienced. I do not get why some people are so hell-bent on defending that garbage of a game. They had 8 years, 500 people and 200M$ and thats what they gave us! Seriously!!!!
@@Existing_Echo Difference is, Star Citizen is not sold as a finished product. Its 45$ and its not developped by a AAA studio with 200 millions budget.
BGS fanboys are insane. Starfield is at best a solid 4/10. To me it's more like 3/10. All the critics giving it 9s & 10s to me is the same as the latest Star Wars trilogy getting high scores. I guess people's standard for what counts as a good RPG are ultra low...
You actually can land wherever you want on a planet. You just have to click on the area and you can make a new landing spot. Although it doesn’t change how bad the exploration is. You can land wherever you want
@@mitronzongo no mans sky was made by a tiny dev studio, also bethesda wont make this game better, the unpaid modders will, comparing the two is insane
What we wanted was the seamless freedom of no man's sky, the story and characters of mass effect 2 and the deep rpg elements of baldurs gate 3. What we got was fallout in space, circa 2015
My biggest gripe was the lack of tools for traversal. Like you said, it's 2023-- we had horses in a game that came out over a decade ago to traverse the land of Tamriel and we can't have a vehicle attachment for our ship? No Mini Merry II for Starfield??? I hope they can release an update soon before my attention span completely drops for this game with other competitive titles out there
It's suffering from the procedural generation downfalls, maybe inherent to current space exploration games, vast boring emptiness. But that in itself can be intriguing when done well, when flying your ship through it is the thrill.
Space games are really friggin hard to do. Because it's so big, the possibilities are endless and gamers minds go nuts imagining everything it COULD be, especially with 1000s of planets or whatever. In my view, space games either have to get the ship sim/exploration part right, or the story/ style/ character part right. But it's near impossible to do both equally great. We don't have the tech to fully realize such a thing.
@@gman7497 It's genuinely not a technical problem. It's a scope problem. If Starfield was set in a single system, with limited planets, and a tight story giving you reasons to WANT to explore space, the game could have been much better (The outer Wilds does this incredibly well) . Claiming it's a tech issue is copium for poor design choices by the producer. Eve online nails ships and exploration, and neatly sidesteps story/style by being an MMO. To be fair, the actual quests (epic arc's in Eve lingo), are pretty okay. And Eve is a 20 year old game.
@@Ornithopter470 Although I agree with you that The Outer Worlds is a great game, I'm not sure if it fits the Bethesda model and expectations (ability to sink +1k hours into the game). I'd say Star Citizen comes closer, but that's one of those infinite development black holes. Plus I believe it's quite costly to play.
Agreed procedural generation has pretty much reached its peak outside of like rogue/rogue like games… in 2023 it’s just simply a fools folly to use procedural generation as the foundation for your open world game… data limits, system limitations etc, will make everything pretty much copy and paste…
@jamesgraves4724 it sucks that sophistication and tech in game dev has pretty much stagnated. There's not been any real advancement in scope or AI in quite a bit, just marginally prettier graphics.
This is true, but doing so really only exposes how little there actually is to explore. Doing that is like radiant quests 2.0, with each each landing site just having a smattering of generic outposts and planetary features, the latter of which are kind of interesting when you find them the first time, but have actually so little impact on anything at all it's hilarious. Like I found a gravitational anomaly on a planet, and I thought it was really cool, but there's nothing special to gain from it, and it turns out they're not even a rarity, you can just find them all over that planet.
@decker7452 Not exactly. The reason you are able to land anywhere is so that you can build outposts in a spot of your choosing. Other than that yeah, it may be a waste of time.
I think people gave Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim a pass because they were (for the most part) very immersive games with lots of bugs. They had a very heavy rose colored glasses effect, including me because I love Skyrim and Oblivion. Starfield finally made people realize that Beth games are becoming low effort AI procedurally generated garbage that relies on their fans to fix.
All of my friends were super excited for this to come out and when I asked why they said “Because it will be great with mods”. So I then decided I’d buy it in a few years when it goes on sale for $15. I don’t understand the point of buying a game on release that is anticipated to be bad until people put UNPAID work into modding it.
Ahh yes, mods, Bethesda's excuse for always being lazy, because why put in actual effort when the paying customer can fix your shit for you? How does Bethesda thank the players who fix their games for them? By stealing their mods and making people pay to use them.
Bethesda should fire their writers and hire this guy...but Bethesda being Bethesda won't do that because it would be them admitting that they have shitty writers.
Had to stop the video to say this is the voice of the people. Hard truths, not sugar-coating. Not out of hate, but observation. Kudos, you're the first one to do this for starfield =]
That vehicle bay idea for the ship is amazing and I guarantee that it will be a mod, but honestly why is this even a thing, it should be in the game already
Modding Bethesda games is the part of the game. It's like playing Minecraft. People who actually play modded Bethesda games before should have known this in the first place.
I chose to let a camp buddy prod my eye out last night in Baldurs gate. Everyone "disapproved" but now I can see invisible people. Its RPG mechanics are unmatched. You have NO CLUE what will happen next as a first time player. I still want starfield eventually though...
I played 100 hours and it's fun for what it is I guess, but it just made me want to do another play-though of Prey 2017 so that's what I'm doing; this will be my 7th play-through so far.
Forgotten are the days we said "Vast as an ocean, the depht of a puddle". Bethesda took It upon themselves to make a starcluster and give It the depht of half a puddle.
The results are no one is going to buy the next Bethesda game. They made it a pretty easy choice to switch over to Nintendo. 100$ games that crash constantly on brand new consoles? They became a meme at this point
I was lucky enough to not have heard any of the hype, I didn’t even know about this game until the game awards last year, so going in to this game I didn’t know anything so I was pleasantly surprised with this game and have been really enjoying my time so far
I think it’s been hyped so Much that unless it was perfect, it’s gonna get these types of reviews. Is it perfect. Of course not but this game was made to be modded. The pc community will update this game a lot. I think it has a few hundred mods already.
I agree that it's very mid. And I feel like everyone around me thinks I'm crazy for saying that. I appreciate that i'm not the only person who feels this way, although I do for entirely different reasons then you do. It's like we came to the same points of critique but from different angles.
@@rajimus It is mid. Elden is not perfect and is not 10/10, skyrim is also not perfect, BG 3 is not perfect, but there is a solar system between them and Starfield. It is a solid 5/10. Not terrible, we can bring up mass effect and compare, any of the 3 games, and starfield is gonna be below them.
@@SuperLomik youre an idiot if you dont think bg3 has 5th grade level cringe writing and euro cringe humor... its for dorky larpers who got beat up in school its not a good game to most people unless you have trash taste. Starfield is one of a kind quality and scope. BG3 is a less goofy DoS2
@@rajimus it's mid with the amount of loading screen i can even say it's a loading simulator and that's not all even with rebar it's still lagging in the main planet the places that player will visit the most. Honestly the best part are the modders they actually made the game playable and i said playable (not fun it's a game it's supposed to be fun ffs).
Ac6 was awesome. Bg3. Cp2077 2.0 and phantom liberty. Remnant 2. Totk. Probably missing stuff but awesome year for gaming. I'm a huge fromsoft fan and ac6 was my favorite game. Playing cp2077 right now and blown away by the graphics. Haven't played a really nice looking game since building my pc and this game looks amazing. No bugs either an I'm 20 hours in.
Because it is a good game. Every time cross does a review he complained about this and that.. that every game. He plays destiny probably one of the worst game to play as a new player all cross does in that is cry too. He talk about repeating activities that all d2 does..
@@Knights0fBlood Same here man, not sure on the hours but im closing is on level 50. Yeah i knew he wasn’t going to like it because he went in with the mentality that i wasn’t going to be as good as the other tittles he listed and i mean if you’re already going in trying to prove wrong the people that told you it was good of course you’ll find a ton to complain about.
the meatriding for Starfield is crazy. I feel like the Starborn stuff could be WAY more interesting if the Starborn were actually aliens and there was no parallel universe bullcrap.
I've seen either people REALLY REALLY love it or it is meh! From what I seen it looks decent but I am okay if I never get to experience this. Props to the folks having fun tho
People need to understand this not every game is meant for you. Just like diablo great game one of the best of it type but some people don't find dungeon divers fun, honestly I don't believe if a game isn't your type you should leave a review. Like this game it a space war fun ton of stuff to do but at the end of the day this game is what you call a story game. They are not meant to be played 24/7 unless this game fits your needs
@@funnystranger3380 definitely agree! If I had a PC or Xbox, I personally would try this game out. I am more of a single player RPG gamer anyways and was a fan of fallout 4 & Skyrim dipping hours and multiple play through a. So I seen this game as no different just in space. From other peoples gameplay they make it seem fun and I’m never the type to base my opinion from a review. Love Cross’ content but I definitely think he may have wrote off this game before release after the delays and the year in gaming we’ve had. that or he may have came in with too hi of expectations.
It’s meh for me. I’ve played it a couple hours and I was just bored. My friend said it got better after 12 hours, but I’m not interested in playing any game for that long before it potentially gets good.
You're probably gonna get a lot of crap but i 1000% agree. I think the one big open map helped so so much with the immersion factor of previous Bethesda games and Zelda. It's worrying i feel more immersed in fallout 76 than starfield.
@@tjayk9127so is Pong or Pac-Man but they are still some of the greatest games ever. The legend of Zelda in nintendo is one of my favorite games ever I couldn’t play it now lol. Ff6 or CHRONO trigger is the rarity most games aren’t good in 20 years.
the fact that elite dangerous (the space/ground combat sim) had planetary exploration vehicles figured out first (via equippable vehicle bays ironically enough) is fascinating to me
No man’s sky has actually gotten really good! I love the exploration! I love the expeditions! I love perma-death mode! Story is a little weak, but I love the gathering and building up to better and better things. I love how casually I can play. I highly recommend it, it is 1,000 times better than launch because Instead of giving up and writing it off as a failure, the team really worked to make NMS something amazing. ❤ Love it😊
I agree, Starfield tried to steal NMS and failed, useless. NMS, although each system is exactly as the last, four or five planets, a space station, and etc, it's still 1000000 better than Starfish. At least NMS got the flying right. I love how you can take off and land. The spaceship fighting is a million times better than this. The looting of minerals is a million times better than this. The planets are a million times better than this. Starfield is just a copy and paste job.
I guarantee you the lack of surface vehicles is simply due to it being built on Bethesda's shitty 20+ year old Creation engine. Fast movement demands faster drawing of polys/textures. There's no way their engine is capable of that. It's the same reason there is no surface flight / ship landing. And now apparently TES VI is going to be built on the Creation engine engine as well... not great news IMO. I don't know why they are so stubborn.
Agreed but considering the planets have very very limited areas to be explored i think a traversal vehicle (like Mako in Mass Effect) would have made the planets look even smaller than what they seem.
@@sofajockeyUK that's bc you're opening your scanner and if there isn't a marker, you quit walking and go back to the ship. You'll never hit one doing that. It'll take 10 to 15 minutes, but you'll hit one if you just walk in 1 direction. You know how the game is and that it shows on the scanner if there is something so you know there no point in walking anymore. If you turn off your scanner and just walk looking to find something cool, you'll run into it before you find anything worth a damn.
Yeah I could care less if it makes it feel smaller. I can't stand having to walk 1k plus meters to every marker. In order to explore every marker and scan everything, you have to walk around for 20 to 30 minutes. And there's nothing in between the markers besides a few resources to scan and depending on planet some flora and fauna. I'll take a vehicle any day over what it is now.
@@sofajockeyUK So.... In Skyrim if you elect to ignore or even turn off your map and all way points, pick a direction, and just walk. You WILL run into something interesting before long (and it wont take long at all). Do that in Starfield and tell me how it works out for you .
I was honestly hoping that this game would have the same exploration aspect as NMS. Being able to physically fly from planet to planet was extremely fun. Starfield promotes exploration, but gives you an over glorified fast travel screen. So the only exploration you experience is from the planets themselves. I fully agree this is nowhere near GOTY.
THey never said that was possible and whats the point. its the most boring part of mns is taking off and landing again. boring empty worlds no story only thing to do is glitch in a billlion credits and buy ships
@@rajimus yeah you gotta realize anyone who thinks NMS isnt normie shallow filler content isnt really a gamer who bethesda is even targeting. Its more for like cool nerd AMerican gamers not like the nastier more shallow normie nerds who think games like Diablo or BD3 (goofy ass stupid kids humor and larping) is good, these are totally different target audiences. Starfield sold to the masses but not everyone "gets it" or appreciates the extra detail and design choices of bethesda over others
@@PuddingXXL How can a game only neck beards and huge dorks with low IQ find appealing? i dont actually know anyone that plays it. Its a cult Larian studios game, for nerds, Starfield is a widespread juggernaut behemoth for the masses. You cant compare the two. It got a 10/10... if youre a nerd and dont mind trite concepts and cheesy writing. Sure some have fun, but its not normal gaming and very niche, like Divinity OS2. Youd have be a cringe eurtard to like it that much to many its not even playable, let alone "good" or "goty" which is a werid term anyway brought up by haters like as if there's a concensus and as if reviewrs matter anymore and arent just political hacks redditor libs.
When tou mentioned the lack of consequences that was my biggest issue with Starfield calling itself RPG. During the Freestar Collective mission where you clear those baddies near the farm I felt like being a shady and requested payment for killing them, then Emma Wilcox sprints over to tell me thats not how they do things. I exit dialogue walk near her then and she says "Nicely done 👍". So not only does she not really gaf about what i did, it never even gets mentioned again. The "role play" aspect is entirely headcanon at tbis point
Bro every old fallout game played out like that. Where memory wouldn’t play a big part in it. I just replayed old world blue and told Dr. Klein I was morbius rebodied and scared them into staying docile. After that they just thanked me for everything I’d done..
@@Fluffy0pz11 No it didn't, what? Have you played Fallout 1, 2 or New Vegas? You're straight out lying. Giving one example for old world blues isn't even good reasoning, plus there is more dialogue than them just thanking you if you say you're morbius rebodied. You even said it yourself, YOU SCARED THEM INTO BEING DOCILE!!! YOU THINK THEY'RE NOT GONNA TRY TO BE ON YOUR GOOD SIDE!!? It happening in DLC is different from it happening in the vanilla story in the first place. Stop coping, Starfield sucks.
@Fluffy0pz11 oh really so your defense to this is Bethesda’s 20ish year old games did the same thing so its ok for a game in 2023 to not have evolved what so ever? Starfield would be a good game in 2006 maybe but even in that year it wouldn’t stand a chance at Game of the Year.
@@citizenvulpes4562 That argument would make sense if it wasn’t the SAME EXACT RESPONSE regardless of what you choose to say to them. They didn’t code any different dialogue, so good for you for building your own backstory to explain why they still congratulate you. Sounds like you’re apart of the community of gamers that vilify everything that comes out because your perspective is effed
@@mike21378 I get what you’re saying! But all this guy did was compare it to different games the ENTIRE video. You say it didn’t evolve but it’s presenting us with the same experience it always has, no one said it was going to evolve.. How am I wrong to compare it to Bethesda games while everyone else seemingly compares it to games in almost different genres (still rpg). Keep in mind I am NOT advocating this to be goty. But I’m perplexed people are changing their expectations of a Bethesda game to fit ridiculous standards, and then getting annoyed when they don’t fit😆
I never heard of Starfield until like 2 months ago. My hype was for Cyberpunk: Phantom Liberty and for Baldur’s Gate 3. And suddenly, there was all this fuzz coming out of the blue (from my point of view) about Starfield, that would be the next revolution in gaming, etc. I am very happy not to have let me be influenced to get interested into Starfield, and that I stuck to the games I had been hyped to from the start !! 😅
*Possible Mild spoiler* For BG3 I absolutely agree with Baldur's gate 3. I was playing BG3 and found a secret children hideout in a village. The children told me to leave, I didn't, the one of the kids said I'd be sorry and ran away. A few hours later, I saved a boy from harpies and he said to talk to a kid in the same village but because I didn't leave the other kids hide out, I was unable to continue the quest because the leader of the children refused to talk to me. Haha whoops.
Yeah I think the expectations were what was off. The Witcher, Mass Effect, Skyrim Final fantasy 15.... All 4 of those games are role-playing games and they are literally nothing alike. You don't get a BioWare role-playing game for the same reason you get a Bethesda role playing game. Starfield doesn't need to be more like baldur's gate. Or vice versa. You just prefer one kind of RPG over another and that's fine. But I know why.... I enjoy Bethesda role-playing game and it's for a completely different reason then I would a choice based role-playing game.
This I feel like the most disappointed people are the ones who either expected a Mass Effect experience, a Baldur's Gate experience, or a No Man's Sky experience as opposed to expecting a Fallout experience in space
@@massivedamage5677 IMO Starfield is just Mass Effect, but worse. Mass Effect at least had amazing Story/Characters. Whereas in Starfield everything is mid at best.
The fact that it took Bethesda 2 months to add an fov slider is crazy... and all they did was change the iso file. The whole thing about modders fixing their game isn't just a meme. Go look at their past games. They have bugs that have been in each and every game. The modders have fixed those bugs back when it was first discovered. Also, some of the things that Bethesda have added to their games look like they just stole the mod and added it in. There have been a few mods with specific bugs that they would cause and low and behold the same bugs appeared in the games that Bethesda added the feature in.
I really liked Starfield when I was playing it most of September. I could see the flaws however, I wasn't blind to the fact, that the game was kinda mid, but I enjoyed my time enough to complete it twice before deciding on taking a break. Then I played Baldur's Gate 3 for the first time and it became much more apparent how low my standards have been. If it wasn't for the fact that the modding community of Bethesda games were more ambitious than the game studio itself (in proportion to their respective available resources) I doubt I'd ever play Midfield again.
I am with you, I played Sykrim, Fo76/3/4/NV, Elder Scrolls Online, but haven´t bought Starfield, although I was looking forward to it, until I saw official gameplay trailers about it. Not a single trailer looked engaging. Bethesda is like Piranha games, they are simply not evolving 15:06 - 15:20 was just the best, how you got louder and louder
Bethesda fanbois: shut up this Game should be Game of the Year Everyone: ok, what about Baldur's Gate 3? The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom? Street Fighter 6? Resident Evil 4 Remake? Dead Space Remake? Bethesda fanbois: HEY THAT'S UNFAIR Everyone: BUT Y'ALL SAID STARFIELD SHOULD BE GAME OF THE YEAR
Just seeing that Tumbler Sparrow for a split second at 14:17 brought me back to my Destiny 1 Days! Looks like I’ll be hopping back into Destiny 1 again! 👍
As a longtime Destiny player, I'm having a blast with Starfield. Is it perfect? No. It's even buggy as hell sometimes. I'm waiting for Dragon Age 4 to scratch my RPG itch.
I love Cross and his content so I'll always support him, but for once I disagree with him. I've absolutely loved the game 30 hours in. On my second playthrough now. I do get the point about people over-hyping it though
@SoalRaptor for some reason which I can't really name, the game and story just grabbed me. It's interesting seeing how divisive the game is, because it seems people either have my experience, or seem to hate it.
I can't even get excited for games anymore, the last few Halo games were a bust, the last few fallout games were a bust, Cyberpunk 2077, Assassins Creed Odyssey and Valhalla. I just don't let myself get excited for games anymore. I just wait for the reviews to start rolling in.
It’s so funny because that’s one of the only side quests I did in cyberpunk and it’s one of the best I’ve ever done in a videogame, it’s so interesting and shocking
I know this is a broken record take, but i dont understand why bethesda refuses to learn from new vegas. Maybe it hurts their self esteem that their best published game was made by different developers but that new vegas level of rpg is most of us want. Hell, at this point i would love for some other studio to shamelessly rip off of new vegas.
The exploration killed my enjoyment of this game. Skyrim and Fallout had the compass rule. Anytime you reached a new marker, you would see one or more new markers pop on your compass. This game would have benefited from having 5 fully thought out and explorable planets that had substance to them.
Thanks for an honest review. Keep up the good work. I can't wait to play Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (waiting to play with my son), Final Fantasy 16 & Baldur's Gate 3. I'm going to continue with Cyberpunk and finish that up first. I'm so behind I haven't even started Elden Ring & Horizon Forbidden West yet? 😮
100% accurate. I played over 30 hours before uninstalling it. I would have quit sooner had I not installed mods to make it less annoying. Plainfully, tedious game. Flat, dead atmosphere. Dumb companions with horribly shallow backstories. Cringe-inducing dialogue. Quests that have NO worthwhile impact on the narrative or game world. Bullet-spongy, brain-dead enemy AI. Boring traversal system. Uninspired flying mechanics (There are games from the 90s that did better). Horrible "ship-building" systen that gives you no REAL freedom for building your personal space craft. Stupid unlocking mini-game that had me installing mods to simply get it out of the way. Grindy mechanics and unfulfilling skill trees(You get to unlock skills that make balistic weapons do more damage? Seriously? WHY DO BULLETS REQUIRE SKILL ITEMS TO DO MORE DAMAGE????!!!!!!) The game is plain mediocre. The criticism against this game is all deserved.
I’m seeing plenty reviews of this game as average, however all my friends are really enjoying it so far. Sometimes I wonder if people who play games for a living have wildly different expectations from the average gamer?
The scope of these open universe games, Starfield/No Man's Sky etc, is just to big It'll never feel like how full and big yet intimate as say Skyrim or Red Dead 2 feel
The most depressing part of playing Starfield is knowing that Bethesda is going to do the exact same thing with Elder Scrolls 6. If this is peak RPG for Bethesda then I have no more optimism for the next Elder Scrolls title and they have killed any hype I may have felt.
This is the first Bethesda game I've played and hated.
It's not Starfield but Trasfield
hopefully since that game will not be set in space at least there will be an actual open world map instead of a set of rooms with loading screens
Starfield? More like- STANfield!
People will worship the game, but I've been calling out Todd and boycotting the work since he initially "borrowed" the properties of Fallout and Elders from what were essentially his predecessors and mentors.
Every game is less game and more stuff that happens and each cycle he has less and less and less lore to work with and less world to show for it. Hes not recovering intellectual property nearly at all. I doubt he has writers or even makes notes because what he does add to the properties is always a less interesting version of a mechanic from another game and;
Stanfield. Is the absolute best possible example i could have asked for of what TODD HOWARD is actually capable. He doesn't have any good intellectual properties to rip off this time! You know why? He entered a genre where we were already just barely getting by! Space! We don't have any good space IPs out here for him to have ripped off!
What we have are some very good space Sims and a Nameless Sky and we just sort of have fun with it all! Todd understands none of this and just scooped up the most basic understanding of the whole genre and spat out a solution to problems we never had!!!
I think most of his actual Starfield fans are all Bethesda mainstays who truly have no idea what they're playing but, I've already played all of it!!! And, as we know, space gets boring pretty easily.
@@j.c.denton2060 Same. I keep seeing people that Starfield is Bethesda at their best. I see that kind of stuff and I start thinking: "Aw, hell no. I'm definitely never checking out their other games now. Nuh uh."
They deliberately didn't give you vehicles to explore the planets becuase there is nothing to explore.
Exactly
And I'm pretty sure they still couldn't program a proper vehicle anyway with their ancient ass engine. It's a miracle that Skyrim has horses. It's also inexcusable how many loading screens there are despite the game requiring SSD.
I’ve been wanting planet vehicles desperately but now that I read this comment and discovered the exact same structures twice or more… yeah, you’re absolutely right.
This is the most disappointing thing about the game. The whole magic of exploration in Bethesda games, just non existent. I still enjoy the things the game has to offer but the excitement is definitely gone.
@@valentinvas6454 „I'm pretty sure they still couldn't program a proper vehicle anyway with their ancient ass engine“
They have made Vertibirds usable in Fallout 4 so it is very much possible.
@@amazinghorizon8270 As far as I remember you can't fly a vertibird around like a helicopter in ARMA or Battlefield so I'm still doubtful.
The reason they didn't add vehicles is because if they did you would quickly see how shallow each planet is
I think you would move too fast, and they''d just put you in a loading screen kek
@@CigBungus circa 2007, speed boosting your horse in Oblivion to crash the game flying across the map.
Vehicles would have crashed the game, seriously you gotta have good hardware to play this game and even the best hardware only gets you about ~70 FPS in 4K, have a good cpu paired with 4090 I know.
@@masterpainter78 *Cough* Cyberpunk *Cough*
10 fleshed out planets would have ironically made the galaxy seem more alive then the galaxy with the 1000 planets we got instead
we didn't learn our lesson from nomansky
My favorite part about Starfield is load screening out of a building to load screen into my ship to load screen to another destination to load screen into that destination to fill out a job application then load screen back into my ship to load screen to my destination to load screen out of my ship to load screen into a building to talk to a guy
It’s so true, does anyone at BGS or Todd understand that in a fucking space “exploration” game that the players would wanna fly the damn spaceship around. I can’t believe I’m about to say this but I have more hope in ubisofts Star Wars outlaws
@@Shadow.in.Historyyou all let yourselves down expecting all that shit you made up in your heads. When this was announced I expected fallout in space, I got fallout in space and I’m not a bit disappointed. Idk what game y’all thought you were getting but this is what I expected from Bethesda 🤷♀️ I’m content and dlc and mods will only make it better over time
@@jeffhelmick8065okay you fanboys are starting to sound like literal bots, I’ve seen your comment copy and pasted so many times, if it’s so fun why aren’t you enjoying it instead of looking up critcism to defend it? You people are so sad and need to go outside, it’s like this game is your girlfriend since you don’t have one in real life
And fan Boyz try to murder me when I talk the truth lol 😆 game of the year gtfo not even close
@@AmericanTrucker89 I’m not saying it’s game of the year but y’all set your expectations too high Bethesda delivered what they promised 🤷♀️ and as for flying the ship around Todd already mentioned why they decided not to go that route “because people would inevitably find ways to use this to break the game”
It's kinda funny that BG3 launched earlier than Starfield to avoid being overshadowed by it, instead BG3 overshadowed Starfield. Oh how the turn tables 😂
There is no turning of tables,Baldurs Gate was always going to be a 1000 miles ahead of this trash.
Only people who think there are tables to be turned are people who think Skyrim is a good game....Its not....Bathesda never made a good game.
@@FoxyCAMTVskyrim is a good video game. It's not that great of an rpg however
@@sparkyspinz9897agreed
But I also agree that Starfield is MID AF
@@FoxyCAMTVAs amazing as Larians past games were they were always niche. As lazy as Bethesdas games have always been they were mainstream. Before the release of Baldurs gate 3 its pretty easy to see how Starfield woudlve over shadowed it.
What i dont get is after the past few ips from Bethesda how anyone can still get hyped for their games.
Its like getting hyped for a Ubisoft game, ill never know how its possible 😅
Starfield is mid but BG3 is no better.
Remember the amazing nightclub in Omega in Mass Effect 2? The music, the lights, the dancers? It was 13 years ago. Bethesda games launch games that are older than the old ones.
Exactly well said
Honestly, I looked at some old footage of Mass Effect 2... Better animation and character art. Honestly prettier. Star Wars: Jedi Survivor Starfield is not.
And you could DANCE
Their environments and livliness of their worlds always feel like an old west movie set to me. They make it look like its suppoesed to be lively, but put no effort in past there.
Hell..Even tho ME Andromeda was a undercooked cashgrab it had better story and companions than Starfield. Also ground vehicle!
I feel you dog. After 60 hrs of Starfield, I was like Forrest Gump when he was just instantly sick of running all over the damn country. I literally stopped mid-play. Nah, I'm cool. Gonna go eat grass, or whatever we supoda do with it.
Yeah it get to a point where your gameplay is more the loading screens than the game itself
Same happened to me. I played about 60 hours, trying my hardest to enjoy it, I was in denial because I wanted to badly to love it. But last night while playing I found myself bored to death. I was considering just rushing through the main quests so that it could be over and I can move onto to a different game, but I thought whats the point, life is too short. I then uninstalled it
Same. I bought Armored Core instead.
I got Cyberpunk. Gonna start it tomorrow@@Asriel_Cypher
@@rcm616-j5t
Have fun, man. Hopefully you get immersed in that world.
I was saying to my friends that somehow Starfield feels smaller than previous Bethesda games. Initially I was excited to explore but once you've seen one planet, you've seen them all. There's nothing to find. No loot worth hunting down. Even smuggling is pointless. The fact you lose everything when you start NG+ renders everything you do as absolutely pointless.
The fact you lose everything when you start NG+ renders everything you do as absolutely pointless.
That's Bethesda for you, making dumb decisions like that is what they do best.
If you get really bored play all the properties in order. Every time he puts out a new main title there's always less content but he just makes it all nicer and bigger and guts mechanics.
He basically rips off all his ideas from previous people. Elders and Fallout are both properties that predate todd and most of the story is written before he ever shows to the scene!
It shows, too, Skyrim is barely an elderscrolls and Fallout 4 is barely a Fallout and now Starfield is barely anything at all! The guy has zero creativity, he's a snake oil salesman.
@@GnohmPolaeon.B.OniShartzyou are talking through your arse haha. 🤣🤣
@@livingart2576How is he wrong, exactly? Have you actually played a mage in Skyrim? I doubt it. It's a fucking dreadful and pathetic experience compared to older TES games
Imagine some reviewers gave this game a 9 or even a 10.
It's an assault on real quality games like Baldur's Gate 3 or TOTK
This game can easily be considered a 9. The only reason people are talking bad about it was because of the hype it had on release. If this game had no hype on release people would be praising this game as an underrated amazing game. It’s crazy what hype can do to how people think of a game.
@@yngtrey1638 First of all, everyone has its own reason(s) to love or dislike a game. My reason (and it has nothing to do with hype cause I don't give a shit) for quitting the game after 40 hours was pure boredom, a very uninteresting main story, too many loading screens which break the immersion completely and the typical Bethesda bugs (this game has more things and people floating around than a f*cking Harry Potter movie). Oh yes, I really loved the ship building, but that's about it. All the rest is very mediocre for a 2023 game released by one of the biggest studios around. That's MY personal opinion.
@@wardvandecotte9253 never said you had to like it or dislike it personally, just said the idea of it being widely considered a mediocre game is due to expectations and hype. If most people found this game 2 years later and had no idea about what it was, 90% of people would think it was great. Also not trying to discredit your opinion but a boring story??? It’s literally a mystery about finding out potential extraterrestrial life..? How is that boring? Would you rather a typical story about tracking down a big bad boss and beating him?
@@yngtrey1638 My dear friend, I'm happy you like the game and you have tons of fun playing it. That's great, your money well spent. For me it wasn't. I moved forward and now I'm playing CP2077 for the very first time and it's a real blast. Ps: a tip, after finishing SF give Baldur's Gate 3 a try, you'll be blown away 👍
@@wardvandecotte9253 played it already, great game. Better than Starfield for sure. CP is a great game as well. I feel like you took my comment the wrong way lol, have a good day man 👍
As bad as cyberpunk was at launch. Damn near all of its major side quests are better then any mission in starfield. One of the best side quests I have ever played in a game that felt like a writer who never got to put his story into a full experience got the opportunity to in cyberpunk and he didn’t disappoint. I’m talking about the “I fought the law” quest. What even better this quest leads you to another quest that’s also great. RPG done pretty well for a first person shooter experience.
Cyberpunk always had a great story, great characters, great world-building, great locations and all-around great writing. This is what was shining through its technical mess and lots of other features missing at launch.
Starfield has none of those greats.
I fought the law was amazing. I don't think I've ever been so engrossed and on the edge if my seat over a side quest story
There's a dude on RUclips, Benjamin Winters. He does INSANE videos of gameplay in cyberpunk. He did one on Starfield. The difference in combat gameplay is staggering.
I started Starfield today and my first Betheda game. What I can see the problem are the terrible pacing, bad UI flow, weight carry issue, quests are kinda boring, and NPC are always trying to hypnotize me. I like space combat, but I can see it will get boring fast, just don't like looting the floating enemy cargo.
Cyberpunk only had Bugs that wrecked It... Gameplay, Story, world was all top notch.
Starfield has Bugs, shit story, world is boring and repetitive and gameplay is fallout 4
I bought Starfield for $100 to get the early access. I played for a few hours, got bored, then started playing Battletech a turned based MechWarrior game. I've been playing that for 2 weeks straight and to me, it's much more fun.
Take a shot every time Cross says “expiration” instead of “exploration” 🤣
Another open world space game, which resembles another one that flopped, flopped? Shocker
I thought I was having a fucking stroke.
I thought it was just a south-y accent thing.
Thanks, now I'm dead
@@kylecardella1276what does that have to do with the op?
After playing BG3 for 150 hours, you really notice how in Starfield, the top dialogue option is always the "right one". The RPG element tells such weak stories in comparison.
I started spam clicking and not even reading when I realized this. Even when the option made no sense "it just works"
I just realized this about 10 hours in, there is no way to roleplay anything here. It feels less like Fallout in space and more like Far cry in space
it's a really good game but definitely overhyped
Thats just plain wrong though lol. Plenty of diversive quests and actions that effect the entire world around you.
Haha yeah that's not becessarily true the likeable option is generally the correct one but I've had plenty of modifications t9 missions coming from alternate dialog.
No game has done the multi-verse jumping better than Titanfall 2. It was stellar.
That was time travel. And Dishonored 2 did it just as well as Titanfall 2. Odd that those 2 games did it at the same time
@@silenceburns1336 Dishonored 2 did that? I'm trying to remember which mission.
@SheldonDarianRoach Yeah. The mission is called a Crack in the Slab. Target was Aramis Stilton. He's insane in present time due to witnessing Delilah's ritual, and his mansion's a ruin. You shift back and forth through time to get around the obstacles. You can deal with Aramis by taking him out or by knocking him out, negating his witnessing the ritual and eventual insanity, and restoring his estate.
There was an older game in 2010 or something called Singularity, also did some fun time stuff.
Did you never play bioshock infinite?
5:20 this perfectly describes my problem with recent Bethesda games and their design philosophy. I feel they've gotten so lost in the "say yes to the player" they forgot that it's not always applicable. Sometimes saying no to the player can create something interesting.
Bethesda has almost continually said, “no” to the players in Fallout 76. Yet, in its own perverse way, FO76 just as bland and generic as Starfield… and becomes more so every release which nerfs even more stuff. Even when they say, “no”, they still don’t do it right.
Or even sometimes restricting the player to scripted stuff can help.
Cyberpunk is loads more immersive cause it has those continuous first person cutscenes where you're gettin bashed around and exploded.
Same with mission design. If you're an inconsiderate dick in cyberpunk you'll get treated like one by the world.
You can land anywhere by holding mouse down. Gives you a 6km-ish zone with procedural stuff or at least their pathetic version of it. There are only a few outpost designs, they are always the same layout all the way down to enemies and loot boxes.
Not unexpected for Bethesda's lazy development practices.
Hey see that mountain over there!? You can't go there. But, that crater!? Also, Nope.
I think the most egregious landing for me was an actual curated zone and the landing zone AT this curated location wasn't big enough to accommodate my ship. So when I landed, the cockpit was full of tree branches. Gimme a fucking break, Bethesda!
The worst is the fact every thing is in the exact same spot. Loot, enemy spawns spawn in the exact same locations every time you get that outpost or cave.
Not to mention, they are limited in number. You add one extra and your previous landing gets removed :D
Starfield is the epitome of mid. Good some of things. Great at nothing. Bad a few things
Its pretty great a ship bulding/customization.. if you don't think so name a better game for that
@@86lanzoyeah but it takes a really long time to get to that yk :c I wish it was better is all
@@grimmick9446it doesn’t but it’s not that fun to me
@@kennypowers1945 the game drags the hell on I would say it dose personally. At least getting to the good shit takes a while.
@@86lanzo The reviewer admits this at 14:48
I'm not really surprised Bethesda's RPG structure hasn't changed in 15 years. Lots of people have tons of nostalgia for those early games and keep bringing that to each new entry. I personally never had that and I'm astonished they think a game like this is anywhere near the level of BG3
15? It only changes when the technology changes- so there's only two version of both IP.
The original, and Todd's. If it looks terrible but has tons of depth? Thats an original. Is it pretty and- has- stuff reminiscent of the previous but not quite as good? Thats always todd.
top downs aren't fun for me though, i'd rather play mid field than BG3
@fxhzwingzero Just play cyberpunk then bro. Save yourself the mid.
@fxhzwingzero BG3 actually doesn't have the same feeling a lot of other top down games have. Good thing is you can change the camera angle to feel like a more traditional third person rpg, only bad thing about camera I don't like is thay you can't look up, that sucks. Honestly I'd give it a chance, I felt the same way about turned based combat and games similar to it, and by trying DOS2 and loving that game, it's opened the door for so many amazing experiences. Namely octopath traveler, BG3 Pathfinder WotR and fire emblem 3 houses to name a few. It's really worth giving it a chance.
@@fxhzwingzeroyou can play both, I have 60 hours in BG3 (Act 1 only) and double that in Starfield...
I love how when you are in orbit the planets are literally just jpegs. The fact the planets don't appear bigger or smaller depending how you move kills any sense of speed. You can be going 1000 mph towards a planet and it looks and feels the same as not moving at all
you mean sort of like real life?
@@CosminCRTThe problem is that this game isn't trying to be realistic.
The planets are extremely low-rez balls on rails and there are no orbital mechanics to speak of. The space ships also travel unrealistically slowly to deter you from trying to not fast travel everywhere and stop you from thinking you could go to a planet manually.
@@CosminCRTDepends on speed. Go to Elite Dangerous, fly around systems there in super-cruise mode. But even in normal mode you can move around. It's slow, but noticeable. But yeah, for that speed should measure in hundreds of meters per second. At least.
You can actually go right up the jpeg itself, it just takes a while. But yea, its no more than a jpeg.
Yes, this is something Elite Dangerous does very well.
You should do more reviews cross. This was the most put together review I’ve seen. Everyone else has hard time putting their finger on why they do or don’t like it but you got straight to the point
it's a really good game but definitely overhyped
Likes were at 69.. an I couldn't mess that up
its noot a good game, mid af. Its a 2009 game polished to be a mdern game. Old bethesda systems not refined or updated at all.@@davidcorodeanu4535
@@davidcorodeanu4535No.
@@davidcorodeanu4535 It's not a really good game, my dude. It's a mod platform that'll get better later. As a game, it's not even as good as vanilla skyrim was.
"No, I did your shitty side quest too" that line killed me
hhe salty he played 30 hour fake review
@@lofi1598😂 there it is even when he plays it thru and thru people will still claim otherwise ur game is shit and didn’t live up to the hype it’s ok maybe next time
@@lofi1598 Cope harder
@@trustypatches669My man, you were in such a hurry to type out a defensive comment that you even forgot to use punctuation. Calm down, not everyone has to like your game.
@@MightyGachiman Cope harder
Does anyone remember in skyrim on Xbox the game would let you actually speak the dragon shouts with your own voice and it would work. Just a gimmick but it was pretty fun
Yeah with the Kinect! I remember memorizing shouts like Wuld Na Kest, and my family questioning me on why I was shouting at the screen. Actually immersed you in the game Language and had you learning the different shouts
Pretty cool, there's a nice mod for it too now that allows you to speak the dialogue options as well as shouts and spells
The problem isn't the Bethesda-ness of it, it's the fact that they haven't evolved their gameplay systems or engine to evolve it over the past 2 decades. It IS possible to have a unique Bethesda quality to their games while still pushing technology and systems forward. They just can't do it for whatever reason.
Dishonored 2 did two realities, like past and present time jumping mission much more compact/shorter, and less boring/annoying. Starfield does this it feels you walking through filler rooms, to waste your time, not to find something new. And there are some rooms, where every bloody locker/crate/box/computer is locked.
that was so f'n cool in dishonored 2. that and the clockwork mansion were the best parts of the dishonored franchise imo. Prey for the win.
Dishonored 2 was a masterpiece
@@captgeechthe clockwork machine was absolutely amazing
Agreed 100% BG3 is so much more fun. Even multiple play throughs are still better in my opinion than Starfield.
BG3 needs modding tools
@@TheCephalusI believe there are plans to add better mod support down the line
I've only heard bad things about BG3
@@JChrist69 Really? BG3 is a really awesome game. But I can only see myself playing it 2-3 times because it is kind of linear in it's story. That is why I think it needs modding tools
My favourite summary of Starfield is “See that planet? You can fast travel to it” 💀
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The dark brotherhood in oblivion actually had consequences for going against them.
You would be thrown out and "The Wrath of Sithis" would come to you in your sleep to kill you xD
If you survived you could return.
In BG3, my friends and I decided to murder all of the story party members. 3 in game days later we were hit with a game over from leaving one person in particular dead. I respect the game for punishing us for our choices. Well done.
That's because BG3 is an actual RPG lol.
@@JohnGraves1985 its a crpg
I waited for this game for years, and it's my favorite game genre, but I'm sad to say I agree with everything Cross said. 2023 will be forever a sad year for me after the huge disappointments with Starfield and Diablo 4 (one of my favorite franchises ever).
Yeah, sadly and ironically bethesda officially joined blizzard on the corporate greed side of game development. Blizzard used to be that ambitious studio with the best mmo out there and turned into a greedy company that killed virtually every good title they had.
Spider-Man 2 babbbbyyyyyy
But 2023 is the BeSTeSt yEAr In Vg HIsTorY!
I'll be looking forward to ZeroSpace in the next two years.
I have been waiting for a whole year. Almost everyday I was thinking about how this was going to be a Skyrim 2.0. I havent play the game for 3 weeks and probably wont again. Its actually bad.
Its good to see someone keep it honest about this game. To many youtuers act like they were paid to review it or something
I agree with most of this. The exploration doesn't work because there is nothing to discover.
Also, I despise the fact that the "dungeons" are all identical. If you have seen one "abandoned cryo facility" then you've seen them all. All the doors and even enemies are in the same places. Even the difficulty level of the locks seem to be the same. Once I realized, I never visited the marked "facilities" on planets or moons unless it was a specific mission to go there.
Also... inventory management. No stores have money and you are constantly getting stuff to sell. And you must sell if you want to afford a proper ship, yet the stores rarely hold over 5000 cash.
Then there's the issue of the tone. The entire game seems so friendly and un-grimy. I thought Neon would be this big, sprawling city with questionable people, but it's just a tiny "cyber theme park" that feels empty (though it was still my favorite location in Starfield). Comparing it to Night City in Cyberpunk 2077 is ridiculous.
All the cities are so small. It feels like there's only a few thousand people living in the entire galaxy. Like: why are people living on desolate moons when 99.99% of the surface of Jemison is lush greenery? I would expect "New Atlantis" to be a planet-wide city (basically being the capital of humanity). And yes, I didn't expect to be able to explore all of it (obviously), but at least give me the sense of size. New Atlantis seems to have housing for a few thousand people tops. Where is everyone?
Exploring New Atlantis with my boostpack is really disappointing, a lot of the area not supposed to be seen are just weird, the entire city just abruptly end with the jungle, there's no exit gate or something, shucks
Finally! A review that reflect exactly what I've experienced. I do not get why some people are so hell-bent on defending that garbage of a game.
They had 8 years, 500 people and 200M$ and thats what they gave us! Seriously!!!!
the same can be applied to the same folks that defend star citizen and Destiny 😂
@@Existing_Echo Difference is, Star Citizen is not sold as a finished product. Its 45$ and its not developped by a AAA studio with 200 millions budget.
BGS fanboys are insane. Starfield is at best a solid 4/10. To me it's more like 3/10. All the critics giving it 9s & 10s to me is the same as the latest Star Wars trilogy getting high scores. I guess people's standard for what counts as a good RPG are ultra low...
There's no ground vehicles because there is nothing to explore.
You actually can land wherever you want on a planet. You just have to click on the area and you can make a new landing spot. Although it doesn’t change how bad the exploration is. You can land wherever you want
And when you do so they’re will be nothing for you to do
@@noahleach7690 Okay and you wanted 1000 individually crafted cities, one on every planet?
@@noahleach7690honestly give them the same time as no man's sky. It will be a dramatically different game by then.
@@mitronzongo no mans sky was made by a tiny dev studio, also bethesda wont make this game better, the unpaid modders will, comparing the two is insane
@@mitronzongoI will truly b surprised if Bethesda puts the same kind of post launch effort into Starfield as Hello Games put into NMS.
What we wanted was the seamless freedom of no man's sky, the story and characters of mass effect 2 and the deep rpg elements of baldurs gate 3. What we got was fallout in space, circa 2015
Fallout>SF
My biggest gripe was the lack of tools for traversal. Like you said, it's 2023-- we had horses in a game that came out over a decade ago to traverse the land of Tamriel and we can't have a vehicle attachment for our ship? No Mini Merry II for Starfield??? I hope they can release an update soon before my attention span completely drops for this game with other competitive titles out there
The sales and pre orders have long been cashed in. Don't expect much from Bethesda. I've more faith in the modding community which is sad
literally could have ported the skyrim horse to starfield and go for a cool Firefly feel
Bethesda logic:
Why waste dev time on something that will make our tiny barren procedurally generated areas seem even more tiny and more barren?
ah, a One Piece reference!
@@sujimayneand even worse, making people complete their game faster
It's suffering from the procedural generation downfalls, maybe inherent to current space exploration games, vast boring emptiness. But that in itself can be intriguing when done well, when flying your ship through it is the thrill.
Space games are really friggin hard to do. Because it's so big, the possibilities are endless and gamers minds go nuts imagining everything it COULD be, especially with 1000s of planets or whatever. In my view, space games either have to get the ship sim/exploration part right, or the story/ style/ character part right. But it's near impossible to do both equally great. We don't have the tech to fully realize such a thing.
@@gman7497 It's genuinely not a technical problem. It's a scope problem. If Starfield was set in a single system, with limited planets, and a tight story giving you reasons to WANT to explore space, the game could have been much better (The outer Wilds does this incredibly well) .
Claiming it's a tech issue is copium for poor design choices by the producer. Eve online nails ships and exploration, and neatly sidesteps story/style by being an MMO. To be fair, the actual quests (epic arc's in Eve lingo), are pretty okay. And Eve is a 20 year old game.
@@Ornithopter470 Although I agree with you that The Outer Worlds is a great game, I'm not sure if it fits the Bethesda model and expectations (ability to sink +1k hours into the game).
I'd say Star Citizen comes closer, but that's one of those infinite development black holes. Plus I believe it's quite costly to play.
Agreed procedural generation has pretty much reached its peak outside of like rogue/rogue like games… in 2023 it’s just simply a fools folly to use procedural generation as the foundation for your open world game… data limits, system limitations etc, will make everything pretty much copy and paste…
@jamesgraves4724 it sucks that sophistication and tech in game dev has pretty much stagnated. There's not been any real advancement in scope or AI in quite a bit, just marginally prettier graphics.
you actually can land on any spot in a planet. just not on water. u just click on it and you can land on that spot in the planet cross
Yeah. But it's a complete waste of time doing so anyway. Might as well not have that feature in the game anyway.
This is true, but doing so really only exposes how little there actually is to explore. Doing that is like radiant quests 2.0, with each each landing site just having a smattering of generic outposts and planetary features, the latter of which are kind of interesting when you find them the first time, but have actually so little impact on anything at all it's hilarious. Like I found a gravitational anomaly on a planet, and I thought it was really cool, but there's nothing special to gain from it, and it turns out they're not even a rarity, you can just find them all over that planet.
@decker7452 Not exactly. The reason you are able to land anywhere is so that you can build outposts in a spot of your choosing. Other than that yeah, it may be a waste of time.
Stan is that you?
You don't land anywhere on the planet; you spawn a box to play in.
I think people gave Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim a pass because they were (for the most part) very immersive games with lots of bugs. They had a very heavy rose colored glasses effect, including me because I love Skyrim and Oblivion. Starfield finally made people realize that Beth games are becoming low effort AI procedurally generated garbage that relies on their fans to fix.
All of my friends were super excited for this to come out and when I asked why they said “Because it will be great with mods”. So I then decided I’d buy it in a few years when it goes on sale for $15.
I don’t understand the point of buying a game on release that is anticipated to be bad until people put UNPAID work into modding it.
It’s on game pass
its not bad its great
doesnt need mods thats an old pop culture parroting thing...
Ahh yes, mods, Bethesda's excuse for always being lazy, because why put in actual effort when the paying customer can fix your shit for you? How does Bethesda thank the players who fix their games for them? By stealing their mods and making people pay to use them.
Man you have a great writing skill. This was well put together script. I really liked this review
Bethesda should fire their writers and hire this guy...but Bethesda being Bethesda won't do that because it would be them admitting that they have shitty writers.
Had to stop the video to say this is the voice of the people. Hard truths, not sugar-coating. Not out of hate, but observation. Kudos, you're the first one to do this for starfield =]
The first one you know of. I’ve seen others who say just about the same things
"I'm not asking Bethesda to reinvent the wheel."
well you actually should ask them to do that since there are no wheels in the game.
That vehicle bay idea for the ship is amazing and I guarantee that it will be a mod, but honestly why is this even a thing, it should be in the game already
You wanna bet it's cut content jus like the mechs? (power armour) ;)
Modding Bethesda games is the part of the game. It's like playing Minecraft. People who actually play modded Bethesda games before should have known this in the first place.
Yeah, why did we have a horse in skyrim and veribord in f4 but no space cycle or car in starfield?
@@thepeps101 Microsoft/Bethesda cut it out to sell it in a DLC. We all know companies do this. But for some reason it's ok this time.
pretty sure its worst. If there is planetary tile bounds, having vehicule would make the planets ridiculous@@gargathulothhastur4981
I chose to let a camp buddy prod my eye out last night in Baldurs gate. Everyone "disapproved" but now I can see invisible people. Its RPG mechanics are unmatched. You have NO CLUE what will happen next as a first time player.
I still want starfield eventually though...
I played 100 hours and it's fun for what it is I guess, but it just made me want to do another play-though of Prey 2017 so that's what I'm doing; this will be my 7th play-through so far.
nnnnnnnnoted...
Prey is goated, that moment when the window shatters ☠️
Enjoy prey. I may do anoyher at through of that game. More freedom.
Forgotten are the days we said "Vast as an ocean, the depht of a puddle". Bethesda took It upon themselves to make a starcluster and give It the depht of half a puddle.
I will say I did expect bigger monsters and aliens along the way and have been let down with that so far.
Did shooting worms not spark joy for you
Yea pretty boring thats its almost only humans you interact with
The results are no one is going to buy the next Bethesda game. They made it a pretty easy choice to switch over to Nintendo. 100$ games that crash constantly on brand new consoles? They became a meme at this point
there is big monsters don't listen to this guy he played 30 hour and he judge the game
@@lofi1598 ok shill
I was lucky enough to not have heard any of the hype, I didn’t even know about this game until the game awards last year, so going in to this game I didn’t know anything so I was pleasantly surprised with this game and have been really enjoying my time so far
Same and I intend to stop watching trailer's and wait for games
Wow, sucks to be you 😂🍻
I keep my expectations low to normal. Then when i play i know ill enjoy it. And it is fun. I love space skyrim
I think it’s been hyped so
Much that unless it was perfect, it’s gonna get these types of reviews. Is it perfect. Of course not but this game was made to be modded. The pc community will update this game a lot. I think it has a few hundred mods already.
Simple people be like: this pleases me just enough 😀
I agree that it's very mid. And I feel like everyone around me thinks I'm crazy for saying that. I appreciate that i'm not the only person who feels this way, although I do for entirely different reasons then you do. It's like we came to the same points of critique but from different angles.
you are crazy because its def not mid. its above mid but not perfect.
@@rajimus It is mid. Elden is not perfect and is not 10/10, skyrim is also not perfect, BG 3 is not perfect, but there is a solar system between them and Starfield. It is a solid 5/10. Not terrible, we can bring up mass effect and compare, any of the 3 games, and starfield is gonna be below them.
@@SuperLomik youre an idiot if you dont think bg3 has 5th grade level cringe writing and euro cringe humor... its for dorky larpers who got beat up in school its not a good game to most people unless you have trash taste. Starfield is one of a kind quality and scope. BG3 is a less goofy DoS2
Every defense I've seen from the fan boys is "It's not that bad, 10/10."
@@rajimus it's mid with the amount of loading screen i can even say it's a loading simulator and that's not all even with rebar it's still lagging in the main planet the places that player will visit the most. Honestly the best part are the modders they actually made the game playable and i said playable (not fun it's a game it's supposed to be fun ffs).
Armored Core was also amazing. This year has been amazing. There’s also spider man that still has to come out
Ac6 was awesome. Bg3. Cp2077 2.0 and phantom liberty. Remnant 2. Totk. Probably missing stuff but awesome year for gaming. I'm a huge fromsoft fan and ac6 was my favorite game. Playing cp2077 right now and blown away by the graphics. Haven't played a really nice looking game since building my pc and this game looks amazing. No bugs either an I'm 20 hours in.
Your points are all valid; and yet, I'm loving this game. When the modding goes nuts, it will just be more fun.
Because it is a good game. Every time cross does a review he complained about this and that.. that every game.
He plays destiny probably one of the worst game to play as a new player all cross does in that is cry too. He talk about repeating activities that all d2 does..
@@funnystranger3380it's ok kid , go back to your English class and learn something before commenting tho
@@funnystranger3380 somebody can't take an opinion.
@@scotttisserand3481says the one whining about a YTers opinion….like huh
@@shyguy4617 oh sorry only people who speak English is allowed on RUclips?
At the end of the day, i think Bethesda's level of ambition in creating their games, greatly surpasses their capability as developers.
Sounds like Cross needs Armored core 6
Can't believe Tod called this his magnum opus... Lol
Im actually really enjoying starfield. Its scratching that bethesda itch for me and I cant stop playing it.
This is what people don’t understand. It’s a Bethesda game, with a Bethesda formula. Period. You either love it or you hate it.
@@Knights0fBlood Same here man, not sure on the hours but im closing is on level 50. Yeah i knew he wasn’t going to like it because he went in with the mentality that i wasn’t going to be as good as the other tittles he listed and i mean if you’re already going in trying to prove wrong the people that told you it was good of course you’ll find a ton to complain about.
@@Knights0fBlood the fuked up thing is hes trying to influence other people who might enjoy it with his stupid hatred and bias
the meatriding for Starfield is crazy. I feel like the Starborn stuff could be WAY more interesting if the Starborn were actually aliens and there was no parallel universe bullcrap.
When the highest bar for this game to pass was “will it work on launch?”, it automatically set itself to fail.
Even then, Microsoft had Bethesda take another year from its original launch date to polish up the game.
I've seen either people REALLY REALLY love it or it is meh! From what I seen it looks decent but I am okay if I never get to experience this. Props to the folks having fun tho
People need to understand this not every game is meant for you. Just like diablo great game one of the best of it type but some people don't find dungeon divers fun, honestly I don't believe if a game isn't your type you should leave a review.
Like this game it a space war fun ton of stuff to do but at the end of the day this game is what you call a story game. They are not meant to be played 24/7 unless this game fits your needs
@@funnystranger3380 definitely agree! If I had a PC or Xbox, I personally would try this game out. I am more of a single player RPG gamer anyways and was a fan of fallout 4 & Skyrim dipping hours and multiple play through a. So I seen this game as no different just in space.
From other peoples gameplay they make it seem fun and I’m never the type to base my opinion from a review. Love Cross’ content but I definitely think he may have wrote off this game before release after the delays and the year in gaming we’ve had. that or he may have came in with too hi of expectations.
@@funnystranger3380its a story game but the main story is shite😂
It’s meh for me. I’ve played it a couple hours and I was just bored. My friend said it got better after 12 hours, but I’m not interested in playing any game for that long before it potentially gets good.
I love it. I think its one of the best Bethesda has ever made.
You're probably gonna get a lot of crap but i 1000% agree. I think the one big open map helped so so much with the immersion factor of previous Bethesda games and Zelda. It's worrying i feel more immersed in fallout 76 than starfield.
I really love this review you did. Checking your channel- I didn't see many reviews. You should definitely do more reviews!!!
Dark Brotherhood questline in Oblivion is still one of my favorite questions in any game ever.
Go play it right now and don’t let nostalgia cloud your judgement. It’s pretty crap nowadays.
@@tjayk9127so is Pong or Pac-Man but they are still some of the greatest games ever. The legend of Zelda in nintendo is one of my favorite games ever I couldn’t play it now lol. Ff6 or CHRONO trigger is the rarity most games aren’t good in 20 years.
It really isn't as amazing as people remember it, don't know why that's the prime example everyone has to bring up constantly. @@tjayk9127
the fact that elite dangerous (the space/ground combat sim) had planetary exploration vehicles figured out first (via equippable vehicle bays ironically enough) is fascinating to me
I think it was calculated. they knew people would hit the invisible wall quickly if they gave us vehicles.
No man’s sky has actually gotten really good! I love the exploration! I love the expeditions! I love perma-death mode! Story is a little weak, but I love the gathering and building up to better and better things. I love how casually I can play. I highly recommend it, it is 1,000 times better than launch because Instead of giving up and writing it off as a failure, the team really worked to make NMS something amazing. ❤ Love it😊
I agree, Starfield tried to steal NMS and failed, useless. NMS, although each system is exactly as the last, four or five planets, a space station, and etc, it's still 1000000 better than Starfish. At least NMS got the flying right. I love how you can take off and land. The spaceship fighting is a million times better than this. The looting of minerals is a million times better than this. The planets are a million times better than this. Starfield is just a copy and paste job.
It went from ass half a decade ago to almost a 10/10
100% agree, I’ve been playing nms from time to time since launch and each time I go back it’s better than before. It just misses on story
Survival games suck ass though
Nah, NMS is still empty
I guarantee you the lack of surface vehicles is simply due to it being built on Bethesda's shitty 20+ year old Creation engine. Fast movement demands faster drawing of polys/textures. There's no way their engine is capable of that. It's the same reason there is no surface flight / ship landing.
And now apparently TES VI is going to be built on the Creation engine engine as well... not great news IMO. I don't know why they are so stubborn.
Since the open world isn’t truly open adding a traversal vehicle would have made the worlds feel even smaller than they actually are.
Agreed but considering the planets have very very limited areas to be explored i think a traversal vehicle (like Mako in Mass Effect) would have made the planets look even smaller than what they seem.
After 160 hours I've yet to meet an invisible wall. The game is more than open enough.
@@sofajockeyUK that's bc you're opening your scanner and if there isn't a marker, you quit walking and go back to the ship. You'll never hit one doing that. It'll take 10 to 15 minutes, but you'll hit one if you just walk in 1 direction. You know how the game is and that it shows on the scanner if there is something so you know there no point in walking anymore. If you turn off your scanner and just walk looking to find something cool, you'll run into it before you find anything worth a damn.
Yeah I could care less if it makes it feel smaller. I can't stand having to walk 1k plus meters to every marker. In order to explore every marker and scan everything, you have to walk around for 20 to 30 minutes. And there's nothing in between the markers besides a few resources to scan and depending on planet some flora and fauna. I'll take a vehicle any day over what it is now.
@@sofajockeyUK So....
In Skyrim if you elect to ignore or even turn off your map and all way points, pick a direction, and just walk. You WILL run into something interesting before long (and it wont take long at all). Do that in Starfield and tell me how it works out for you .
I was honestly hoping that this game would have the same exploration aspect as NMS. Being able to physically fly from planet to planet was extremely fun. Starfield promotes exploration, but gives you an over glorified fast travel screen. So the only exploration you experience is from the planets themselves. I fully agree this is nowhere near GOTY.
THey never said that was possible and whats the point. its the most boring part of mns is taking off and landing again. boring empty worlds no story only thing to do is glitch in a billlion credits and buy ships
@@rajimus yeah you gotta realize anyone who thinks NMS isnt normie shallow filler content isnt really a gamer who bethesda is even targeting. Its more for like cool nerd AMerican gamers not like the nastier more shallow normie nerds who think games like Diablo or BD3 (goofy ass stupid kids humor and larping) is good, these are totally different target audiences. Starfield sold to the masses but not everyone "gets it" or appreciates the extra detail and design choices of bethesda over others
@@RustnauticaWow you really have to glaze Bethesda this much that you even talk down in BG3 lol? An actual GOTY title not this Mod tier crap.
@@PuddingXXL How can a game only neck beards and huge dorks with low IQ find appealing? i dont actually know anyone that plays it. Its a cult Larian studios game, for nerds, Starfield is a widespread juggernaut behemoth for the masses. You cant compare the two. It got a 10/10... if youre a nerd and dont mind trite concepts and cheesy writing. Sure some have fun, but its not normal gaming and very niche, like Divinity OS2. Youd have be a cringe eurtard to like it that much to many its not even playable, let alone "good" or "goty" which is a werid term anyway brought up by haters like as if there's a concensus and as if reviewrs matter anymore and arent just political hacks redditor libs.
It's more realistic that you can't fly from world to world because it would take days or more of flying with just empty space in-between
When tou mentioned the lack of consequences that was my biggest issue with Starfield calling itself RPG.
During the Freestar Collective mission where you clear those baddies near the farm I felt like being a shady and requested payment for killing them, then Emma Wilcox sprints over to tell me thats not how they do things.
I exit dialogue walk near her then and she says "Nicely done 👍". So not only does she not really gaf about what i did, it never even gets mentioned again.
The "role play" aspect is entirely headcanon at tbis point
Bro every old fallout game played out like that. Where memory wouldn’t play a big part in it. I just replayed old world blue and told Dr. Klein I was morbius rebodied and scared them into staying docile. After that they just thanked me for everything I’d done..
@@Fluffy0pz11
No it didn't, what? Have you played Fallout 1, 2 or New Vegas? You're straight out lying.
Giving one example for old world blues isn't even good reasoning, plus there is more dialogue than them just thanking you if you say you're morbius rebodied.
You even said it yourself, YOU SCARED THEM INTO BEING DOCILE!!! YOU THINK THEY'RE NOT GONNA TRY TO BE ON YOUR GOOD SIDE!!?
It happening in DLC is different from it happening in the vanilla story in the first place.
Stop coping, Starfield sucks.
@Fluffy0pz11 oh really so your defense to this is Bethesda’s 20ish year old games did the same thing so its ok for a game in 2023 to not have evolved what so ever? Starfield would be a good game in 2006 maybe but even in that year it wouldn’t stand a chance at Game of the Year.
@@citizenvulpes4562 That argument would make sense if it wasn’t the SAME EXACT RESPONSE regardless of what you choose to say to them. They didn’t code any different dialogue, so good for you for building your own backstory to explain why they still congratulate you.
Sounds like you’re apart of the community of gamers that vilify everything that comes out because your perspective is effed
@@mike21378 I get what you’re saying! But all this guy did was compare it to different games the ENTIRE video. You say it didn’t evolve but it’s presenting us with the same experience it always has, no one said it was going to evolve.. How am I wrong to compare it to Bethesda games while everyone else seemingly compares it to games in almost different genres (still rpg). Keep in mind I am NOT advocating this to be goty. But I’m perplexed people are changing their expectations of a Bethesda game to fit ridiculous standards, and then getting annoyed when they don’t fit😆
I never heard of Starfield until like 2 months ago.
My hype was for Cyberpunk: Phantom Liberty and for Baldur’s Gate 3.
And suddenly, there was all this fuzz coming out of the blue (from my point of view) about Starfield, that would be the next revolution in gaming, etc.
I am very happy not to have let me be influenced to get interested into Starfield, and that I stuck to the games I had been hyped to from the start !! 😅
*Possible Mild spoiler*
For BG3
I absolutely agree with Baldur's gate 3. I was playing BG3 and found a secret children hideout in a village. The children told me to leave, I didn't, the one of the kids said I'd be sorry and ran away. A few hours later, I saved a boy from harpies and he said to talk to a kid in the same village but because I didn't leave the other kids hide out, I was unable to continue the quest because the leader of the children refused to talk to me. Haha whoops.
God damn it, I thought it was a Starfield spoiler, then I get a spoiler for BG3............... 😓 This will delay my start of BG3 for a while
Yeah I think the expectations were what was off. The Witcher, Mass Effect, Skyrim Final fantasy 15.... All 4 of those games are role-playing games and they are literally nothing alike. You don't get a BioWare role-playing game for the same reason you get a Bethesda role playing game.
Starfield doesn't need to be more like baldur's gate. Or vice versa. You just prefer one kind of RPG over another and that's fine. But I know why.... I enjoy Bethesda role-playing game and it's for a completely different reason then I would a choice based role-playing game.
This
I feel like the most disappointed people are the ones who either expected a Mass Effect experience, a Baldur's Gate experience, or a No Man's Sky experience as opposed to expecting a Fallout experience in space
Iono... I totally get ME1 vibes from this game, in a very good way.
@@massivedamage5677 IMO Starfield is just Mass Effect, but worse. Mass Effect at least had amazing Story/Characters. Whereas in Starfield everything is mid at best.
@@spyder256 Some of the side stories in Starfield are fantastic. Characters.... ehhh, could be better.
Skyrim was great and fun BEFORE mods were implemented. Thats the difference
The fact that it took Bethesda 2 months to add an fov slider is crazy... and all they did was change the iso file. The whole thing about modders fixing their game isn't just a meme. Go look at their past games. They have bugs that have been in each and every game. The modders have fixed those bugs back when it was first discovered. Also, some of the things that Bethesda have added to their games look like they just stole the mod and added it in. There have been a few mods with specific bugs that they would cause and low and behold the same bugs appeared in the games that Bethesda added the feature in.
The switching between realities thing reminds me of that one mission in Titanfall 2 when you switching between the past and present.
I thought the same thing
Fact. Not even an original idea.
Dishonored 2 also had a similar mission and it was miles better than the one in Starfield.
@@s3nate22it's was original enough it was just very clearly inspired
@@Revolv3rfoxalot you here they got Titanfall 2 servers up and running again. There was a patch that released today.
Aztecross: I have played every banger game this year.
Armor core 6?
Armored Core 6 is amazing. One of the most solid games Ive ever played. Not the biggest fan of games like BG3, but im sure is good if you love RPGs.
I really liked Starfield when I was playing it most of September. I could see the flaws however, I wasn't blind to the fact, that the game was kinda mid, but I enjoyed my time enough to complete it twice before deciding on taking a break. Then I played Baldur's Gate 3 for the first time and it became much more apparent how low my standards have been. If it wasn't for the fact that the modding community of Bethesda games were more ambitious than the game studio itself (in proportion to their respective available resources) I doubt I'd ever play Midfield again.
The defense of Bethesda has always basically been "but guys, bad games are bad games, whybwould expect anything else?"
I am with you, I played Sykrim, Fo76/3/4/NV, Elder Scrolls Online, but haven´t bought Starfield, although I was looking forward to it, until I saw official gameplay trailers about it.
Not a single trailer looked engaging.
Bethesda is like Piranha games, they are simply not evolving
15:06 - 15:20 was just the best, how you got louder and louder
Bethesda fanbois: shut up this Game should be Game of the Year
Everyone: ok, what about Baldur's Gate 3? The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom? Street Fighter 6? Resident Evil 4 Remake? Dead Space Remake?
Bethesda fanbois: HEY THAT'S UNFAIR
Everyone: BUT Y'ALL SAID STARFIELD SHOULD BE GAME OF THE YEAR
Just seeing that Tumbler Sparrow for a split second at 14:17 brought me back to my Destiny 1 Days! Looks like I’ll be hopping back into Destiny 1 again! 👍
Well no need to worry cause it didn't even got nominated lmao
As a longtime Destiny player, I'm having a blast with Starfield. Is it perfect? No. It's even buggy as hell sometimes. I'm waiting for Dragon Age 4 to scratch my RPG itch.
Definitely recommend Baldurs Gate 3 if your a DA fan. Especially if you played Origins!
Granblue Fantasy relink for me or I would have found a cliff during this media drought
I love Cross and his content so I'll always support him, but for once I disagree with him. I've absolutely loved the game 30 hours in. On my second playthrough now. I do get the point about people over-hyping it though
I’m about 100 hours in and feel like I still haven’t scratched the surface yet. I absolutely love the main quest line and characters
@SoalRaptor for some reason which I can't really name, the game and story just grabbed me. It's interesting seeing how divisive the game is, because it seems people either have my experience, or seem to hate it.
I can't even get excited for games anymore, the last few Halo games were a bust, the last few fallout games were a bust, Cyberpunk 2077, Assassins Creed Odyssey and Valhalla. I just don't let myself get excited for games anymore. I just wait for the reviews to start rolling in.
My favorite quest the past few years has been the Bill Jiblonsky questline in Cyberpunk. That quest has stuck with me for a long time
River’s quest line is quite good. A lot of Cyberpunk’s quests are good. Looking forward for the Update and Phantom Liberty.
It’s so funny because that’s one of the only side quests I did in cyberpunk and it’s one of the best I’ve ever done in a videogame, it’s so interesting and shocking
@@fate9567honestly, I loved CP’s side quests - in particular, the quest line involving the future mayor of NC
Starfield: we are openworld
Also Starfield: Loading screens
I wasn't expecting a review from THE Aztecross. Excited to watch it later.
fake review he played 30 houur and he make video
@@lofi1598are you Todd Howard? You've replied on so many comments in this video defending this game and it's really embarrassing
I just love how the first Bethesda game to feature ESG BS was a flop 😂
I'm disappointed, mid is the right word. There wasn't a hook, I was too tired and sore after it got kinda fun. Fallout 4 was better.
Well said!
Every time I watch the combat in Starfield it reminds me punching in a dream. There’s intention but nothing behind it
Spot on review, imo. I felt the same way. Now THIS is the last time I pre-order a Bethesda game. No, really, it is! Pinky-swear!
You sweeeaaarr?
I know this is a broken record take, but i dont understand why bethesda refuses to learn from new vegas. Maybe it hurts their self esteem that their best published game was made by different developers but that new vegas level of rpg is most of us want. Hell, at this point i would love for some other studio to shamelessly rip off of new vegas.
To save you some time....... it's a rubbish game don't buy it.
Not terrible honestly, but maybe should wait for a big sale
The exploration killed my enjoyment of this game. Skyrim and Fallout had the compass rule. Anytime you reached a new marker, you would see one or more new markers pop on your compass.
This game would have benefited from having 5 fully thought out and explorable planets that had substance to them.
Thanks for an honest review. Keep up the good work. I can't wait to play Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (waiting to play with my son), Final Fantasy 16 & Baldur's Gate 3. I'm going to continue with Cyberpunk and finish that up first. I'm so behind I haven't even started Elden Ring & Horizon Forbidden West yet? 😮
You are gonna be busy until at least 2030 with that roster lol
Zelda forbidden west and cyberpunk (as long as it’s not crashing) will be the best games you play on there.
@@dillonwilliams4416let alone elden if he doesn’t have soulsborne game experience. That alone could hold him back from skillchecks
@@technicalactivity agreed
@@technicalactivity why are you alienating Baldur's Gate?
100% accurate. I played over 30 hours before uninstalling it. I would have quit sooner had I not installed mods to make it less annoying. Plainfully, tedious game. Flat, dead atmosphere. Dumb companions with horribly shallow backstories. Cringe-inducing dialogue. Quests that have NO worthwhile impact on the narrative or game world. Bullet-spongy, brain-dead enemy AI. Boring traversal system. Uninspired flying mechanics (There are games from the 90s that did better). Horrible "ship-building" systen that gives you no REAL freedom for building your personal space craft. Stupid unlocking mini-game that had me installing mods to simply get it out of the way. Grindy mechanics and unfulfilling skill trees(You get to unlock skills that make balistic weapons do more damage? Seriously? WHY DO BULLETS REQUIRE SKILL ITEMS TO DO MORE DAMAGE????!!!!!!) The game is plain mediocre. The criticism against this game is all deserved.
I’m seeing plenty reviews of this game as average, however all my friends are really enjoying it so far. Sometimes I wonder if people who play games for a living have wildly different expectations from the average gamer?
They 100% do because they seen everything they have no life my man, they played so much different type of game nothing feels unique
Starfield is far and away my personal game of the year. But the only other game I bought and played this year was Lightfall so.... low bar.
Yeah but gunplay is not on destiny's level, and that games a million yrs old lol
No game is on the level of destiny gun play
destiny is so much better it has its ups and downs but its alot better of a game as a whole
@@iHudoinah just the fact StarField is offline makes it better for me can play it whenever I want to never have to worry about nerfs and changes
it really isnt. same recycled shot every year and month behind pay walls. Destiny is shit, @@iHudoi
The scope of these open universe games, Starfield/No Man's Sky etc, is just to big
It'll never feel like how full and big yet intimate as say Skyrim or Red Dead 2 feel
To be fair no mans sky isn't looking to be as detailed as rdr2 it never pretended to be and now its quote good