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PET PEEVES OF 40K | Hobby Talk #7
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I haven't watched the vid yet, but I value my liver. No thanks.
No I don’t want to die
I would, but I think that I'll pass on the alcohol poisoning!
no
i don't want to die
You'd think that, as expensive as GW models are, they would come with pre-drilled barrels.
they did at one point
Heyyo DiceCheck-Team! THanks for the Shoutout man, i love supporting you guys and i hope that the everything can go on smoothly with all the support you're getting from Patreon as well as YT and Twitch!
Now to my Petpeeve!
I hate it so much, when Models are vertically wide as fuck with a small base. When the Swords of the Indomitus Assault Intercessors just intertwine or the Wings of Prosecutors from Stormcast Eternals in Age of Sigmar just...get in the way of placing them...UUGH i hate that!
My pet peeves of warhammer is having models that are not space marines. -- GW
My pet peeve is recognizing that Xenos races exist. -GW
My pet peeve is that xenos exists -- Space Marines
I read this in Rogal’s voice
"My pet peeve is having competition in the marketplace."
-GW, and also all Capitalists
My pet peeve is people telling me I can't/shouldn't paint a model a certain color/colors.
I encountered a guy, who didnt even play 40k, tell me not to paint the band of my Ultramarine bases white.
Well thats dumb
But half the fun is deciding what colors YOUR army is gonna wear
my biggest pet peeve in the game is when my enemy gets angry if he rolls badly. Not only is he not having fun, I'm also not having fun anymore
That can be hard for both sides. It’s happened to some of us a few times on the channel as well. Best thing is to try and help them pick up their spirits and cheer them on in order to get over that hump.
Man, I feel you bro. I have lived with that my entire life with my older brother, who brought me into the nerdverse back in the day. He gets so freaking mad at the dice when they roll "bad" or at himself when he loses. It just kills the mood of any game. I will say, it has taught me to be gracious in both losing and winning.
If you go into any dice rolling think it will always work out, you shouldn't mess with dice lol. I've got really good luck with dice but I understand that isn't going to be the case all the time.
I have really bad dice luck but I find it funny
Personal pet peeve is fucking mold lines that go over bumpy spots like weapon grips
This yes
Preach! Those hoses that GW insist on putting on 90% of vehicles and weapons are just the worst for this
"What are rules really though." (Tzeentch from TTS)
Is that a question. Or maybe; it's just another path to an answer? (Intentional punctuation)
My pet peeve with warhammer - flying stands. Fix the goddamn flying stands, GW.
Especially for the primaris insestors
@@2guys1cliplol This sounds insane I know but I made mine quite stable (after repeated detachments) by melting the tip of the stand with a lighter and then pushing it into the model where I wanted it to stick while it was still hot.
Check it out.
My Petpeeve is people that pay less attention when it's your turn. And you have to constantly remind them that they have to roll a save or they suddenly ask where something came from. Fun.
jesus
Like, i get tuning out during the opponents move phase, i usually do some organizing and planning while keeping out, but for every other phase you have to be present
I had a player, on TTS, who was playing a game of online chess in the background during my turn.
@@khorneflakes4446 lmao was he just trying to show off? "Look im a galaxybrain"
My pet peeve is when Models aren’t available. There’s probably a good reason but it’s upsetting none of the models I need are for sale.
Cries in manticore
@@Chuckn0rris5555 Cries in Telemon arms...
Cries in cultists
Cries in half of the tyranid model range
Yeah, ive had a manticore on back order for months, and now its too late for the tournament i wanted to bring it to so i just have to suck it up and tweak the list.
One on my pet peeves is the constant power creep of the codices. It feels like 7th edition all over again, especially as formations seems to be coming back...
Agreed. If every new codex is the biggest baddest most OP thing then its a constant cycle of everyone else just sucking. I only started in 9th but I can clearly see this happening.
@@alexisdetocqueville9964 As someone thats trying to get into this hobby with friends, Im just trying to not pick the army with the newest codices.
@@Howesterino don't do that. Pick the army you like the best. Because one day that army is on top of the world and the next its sucks.
@@420MrOdin I get what you mean, but I'd hate to play an overpowered army against newbies, especially if it's a really newbie friendly one. I'm afraid it won't be fun for any of us if the rules are just that good.
@@Howesterino talk with them take less competitive choices or ask to neuter your list and be slightly down on points it’s all about talking to a friend and having fun playing cool minis
Your combined game pet peeves is my ultimate pet peeve - every time I’ve played against a stranger there’s been some form of rule bending / ignorance / cheating that leads to brutal feel bad moments where I’m just wondering why I even wasted my time.
I have a buddy that plays Necrons so I’m pretty familiar with them, and played against a guy who was using them and was doing so much illegal shit and it was just like .... dude you’re literally trying to play off of my ignorance of your army to win.
I think because people invest so much into this hobby they don’t care about the integrity of just having a good time and playing the game honestly but only care about winning at any cost. That’s my ultimate pet peeve I guess; just enjoy your time playing the game, enjoy those epic moments whether you win or lose there’s some cool shit going down - don’t fuck that by being obsessed with winning even if you have to ruin the rest of the experience.
No one is surprised when someone cheats, it’s like... dude we know your army isn’t that strong. 😂
Great vid guys, love these
My pet peeves are basically everything TJ was doing... Rolling behind terrain, picking up successes etc...
Who TJ?
I haven't watched the vid yet please forgive if it's explained
I watched the video and still don't understand who he is rip
@@blitzfyre669 He is a “pro” player that has been apart competitive Warhammer for a long time. He even coaches. With more and more games being streamed, he was caught doing a lot of the subtle cheating that has been holding competitive Warhammer back. If you search ‘TJ cheating’ you should get the videos that covered it. He’s banned from ITC for like 6 months or something. There were rumors for years that he has done this way more than what got caught on camera so I don’t believe his apology, but I do believe people deserve a second chance...
As someone who plays at that store, can we stop beating a dead horse in? He fucked up real bad but every video on warhammer references this incident, it can leave a bad taste in new players mouths. These incidents are few and far between
@@Marksantora22 honestly it’s kinda ok, speaking as a new player who’s not at all competitive it’s good to see that players obviously don’t encourage or even ignore cheating. I can see your point though. But it seems that the original poster was just answering a question that was asked. But again, it’s better to reiterate sportsmanship rather than just saying “don’t cheat”
To avoid forgetting my rules I've written a cheat sheet with all my auras, abilities by phase, special rules, if I'm dealing with core what my core units are and stratagems by phase
Some players I've seen on RUclips, like Mordian Glory, have started using tokens with labels on them to denote when they've put various effects on models. Might also be good to use. That way, you'll remember to factor in whatever buffs you threw around.
I have two major pet peeves with the hobby, one is how long some army’s take to get updated, I started playing eldar back in 2011-2012 and we have barely gotten any updates to our models. And my other pet peeve is when people complain about how your army is too powerful at the moment, I have been playing dark eldar since 7th edition and my friends who started at the tail end of 8th start of 9th and I can’t tell how many times I have told me that I only play drukhari because they are strong at the moment despite playing them for years before.
This ^ I’ve played blood angels since I started 13 years ago, aside from a total hobby break during 8th, and the hate towards them and how powerful they can be makes me sad
My first army I bought models for without reading their codex Was Adepta Sororitas, and then I started watching the dicecheck tournaments and imnhearingnhoe broken they are. Man I didn't know I just wanted to play an all female army
My pet peeve
Many models need a update and not just in a lame limited run then gone
Definitely. Astra Militarum models definitely need to be updated.
Me as an eldar player. I feel this
Can’t add enough likes about the poor eldar
Frank Rauen A sprue of heads and arms for Cadians is a pathetic excuse for an update. Not including DKOK (which is FW exclusive and resin), GW supports literally 25% of the regiments they used to have. And by support, I mean sell for money. (30YO valhallans every couple years does NOT count)
I've never done anything with 40k although I do love the lore and watching Battle Reports. My biggest tabletop pet peeve is when people don't think about what they're doing for their turn until after you have told them it's their turn.
I think is the first time i hear you talking about the painting part of the hobby in such detail. I like it.
Pet Gaming Peeve: Getting salty over a certain army/unit that appears to be broken (because its doing well and only that).
Pet Hobby Peeve: When a seller doesn't properly explain that their paint is for airbrushes only.
My pet peeve is with GW and Salamanders, page 195 of the 9th edition space marines codex has a list of weapon profiles. On heavy flamers and hand flamers there are double asterisks next to them that bring you to a footnote saying that "Only models from Deathwatch Chapter or the Blood Angels Chapter can be equipped with this weapon." Then GW goes and sells a Salamanders primaris upgrade kit to give the Primaris Sergeant a hand flamer. They've never put out an FAQ about it (as far as I am aware) and no one from the hobby has ever given me a straight answer about it
Hobby pet peeve for me is the insane price increase because I'm Australian. 40K is an expensive hobby to get into over here.
Game side peeve would have to be: people set to win, Try harding every angle. I like to have a good time, randomness is always fun to me. If I can overcharge a weapon and risk killing myself, I will always do it because its funny.
As a fellow Australian, I feel the pain. (Intercessors would be £35 in UK but here they are £50 ($98AUD))
There are local sellers that sell near wholesale price though. Gapgames and Mperor cc are worth checking out, but the bump-up is ridiculous at times.
I try to bulk buy on ebay from a uk hobby store so shipping is cheaper. You can save hundreds across a few models or boxes, even terrain etc. I just buy paints local mostly now
Great tip with the thinner vs flow improver, did not know that.
The main "gotcha" moment that I have got is when I took my units out of deep strike and he just auspex scans and wipes them. A mistake that only happens once, but man does it feel bad
Literally had that happen at a GT for my first match. Feels hella bad man!
But I feel like that should be our responsibility as opponents to know about these potential "gotcha" moments. I know that it is hard to know about every army, but I try to look at it from a real world perspective. You don't expect opposing armies in war to go "hey, if you attack here, my armour companies are close by to counter attack." You know do your own recon before hand. Look at codex reviews and battle reports on armies that you may expect to show up.
I agree with battle dolls, to a certain point you should try to be familiar with what armies are capable of, and so long as you know strategems exist for one faction you can ask your opponent if they have a similar ability or strategem. It helps to play with intent, having an open dialogue with your opponent. "I'm trying to place these models within terrain/im moving these infantry to take this objective/i want to deepstrike this unit here, it would be outside 9" of your models but do you have any abilities that let you attack or disrupt them on my turn?" No one wants to be gotcha'd, so have good faith and play WITH your opponent and not against.
Bro I fucking love this channel, I love how it’s super easy to tell that you guys are all friends
One of my peeves is when I'm playing a game and someone makes a little mistake and they ask to correct it, so as a nice guy I allow them, and then the do it a few more times, but if you do it once and ask to fix something they freak out and say no, because they are gonna get their butt whipped, or just wanna win at all costs. I've learned to be more hard on those types of players and not let them get little ups in a game anymore.
First one's free, if they dont reciprocate, they get cut off. Gotta speak up for yourself. I f someone asks for"take backs" i start asking "will you learn from the mistake if you get to do over or will you learn from frustration of a misplay?"
Pet peeve, opponents touching or being rough with your painted models.
Why would your opponent need to handle your models, I'm curious because I've never played but my lgs where I usually play mtg is opening back up for events soon.
@@tonybayer2546 Two words: That Guy
@@Dragonspirit223 Oh I figured anyone who does that is that guy, I just want to know how they're going to try to justify it after I chew their ass out.
At least ask first, like damn
Reading your pet peeve almost gave me a f-ing cold sweat panic attack. Do. Not. Touch. My. Mini. *insert Kill Bill dweedoodweedoodweedoo sound*
Peeves: opponents not paying attention to the game ( on the their phone, talking to people not participating). Hobby peeve has to be models with swords or smaller hanging parts. The storing and transport is just a nightmare. I have to check my cases 3 times before I'm happy to pick them up and know my models are safe.
my biggest pet peeves is the turn mechanic in 40k (the first player to go advantage / disadvantage). so many games have came out with better system of alternative activation. it would make the game so dynamic. Or an even better fix if you don't want to change the turn mechanic. something like a wounds tracker dice/ token and all the death are remove at the and of the turn. giving a chance to a wounded unit to shoot before being remove turn one.
Just started building a new home in Valheim. This is gonna be perfect to listen to while building.
Edit: LOL! Dameki immediately starting off with something relatable - i don't drill gun barrel holes as well and too wonder why people value it THAT high. Like many tutorial videos mention it and i think the models work perfectly fine without em.
I assumed drilled barrels was just a meme. I cant be assed to do it, theres enough hobbying to do thats more interesting to me like full on kitbashing.
"Don't weight your minis!" they say ... My Arco-Flagellants on their 25mm bases -__-
my hobby pet peeve is GW releasing models that do not fit inside cases well, sure magnus and mortarion, or witch aelves look great but they are a pain to pack and transport.
@Frank Rauen the amount of spiky bits that can break off of Custodes is painful
My biggest pet peeve is that Toby hasn't been played on the table yet!
Toby should be on the next gauntlet
Toby will BE the next gauntlet
I’ve literally only played 5 games, very very new player but one game I played my opponent had absolutely zero interest in the game during my turn and would just ask how many armor saves to make while barely looking up from his phone. So I Music of The Apocalypse’d a whole 10 man squad of his incubi the next turn HA.
Pet peeve: people who get huffy about looking up a rule. We're all walking around with phones and rule books. It still blows my mind some people don't want to take time to look up a rule.
I find that most people who are huffy about looking up a rule are the ones hoping you wouldn't look into it because they're skewing the wording in their favor, or they're just too committed to their plan to want to be wrong
Hobby pet peeves. Paint pots suck. Most of Citadel tools suck. Their paints are fine if you know what you are doing with them but I hate that they are the standard quite often. I watch someone doing a step by step for something and they use only citadel paints instead of mixing basic tones from another brand. I get it is easier but citadel paints are so much more expensive than they are worth.
Like, they don't even try to say what colors you could use in a generic way. It's always specifically referring to the Citadel version. Rather than saying "use red paint" or "use a darker red".
My pet peeve is when a model/unit can use a weapon that the particular box doesn't have. Like how inceptors from the Know No Fear boxset are just the bolter ones and don't come with the plasma option. Intercessors not having melee weapons like chainsword, powers sword, or fist for the sergeant for certain boxes. Or even meta stuff like me wanting to outfit all my terminators with chain fists but the box doesn't come with 5 of them. It forces me to either buy more boxes or just go bit hunting on eBay. This issue also got me into magnetizing some models so I can switch load outs without having to buy more boxes just to try out different stuff (wish I did that for my vanguard vets 😭)
I put together my first starter box. If anyone cares it was the lizardmen with the trogladon, Saurus warriors, raptor cav box. You guys are right about the base on some models not being big enough. Cause a good portion of my cold one riders always fall on their face. Also I don't play I just wanted a fun art project.
Dameki looking gooooooood. Keep up whatever you're doing man!
Its the plastic crack, man
I get irritated when people tell or suggest me how to paint my models. “Oh yeah man just get some contrast paint for your 120 Boyz” Nah fam
If I want to paint all 120 boyz to a good quality in a sub assembly style because I like the outcome, let me paint them that way!
Hobby peeve: Any base rim that is not black
Playing: Plays that loose interest when they start loosing but also won't concede
What helped my airbrush clog less was leaving airbrush cleaner in it and keeping the cap on the cup. Stops paint from drying inside.
When he started talking of magic and pulling out a card and just saying I win I immediately thought of that scene from Big Daddy.
Hey guys, love the content and glad you're hosting Hobby Talk, I too would like to talk some hobby. Following the format I'll give a game and hobby pet peeve.
Game: When veteran players intentionally bring hyper lists to casual games with new players, and then get super sweaty during the match. I feel this leaves a poor impression of what the game can be and reflects poorly on the local community. We have a few guys who do this a lot at my local club. Several people I got inspired to play and paint very quickly quit because of these individuals.
Hobby: Globby paint jobs with minimal effort. Now this isn't always a direct criticism of the painter. We are all of different skill levels and I appreciate everyone's attempts to slay the gray. I had a friend who was notorious for bringing various armies coated in pink Krylon spray paint. He didn't care about the models and would cover up so much detail. It always looked terrible and ruined my reason for coming to a table. The aesthetic of the universe and casual fun time with friends. (He was also a cheaty gotcha player, we are no longer friends).
When you at a casual Tournament and your opponent is using a different games models, that aren't even painted, and using a net list.
Oof. Fuckin casuals, amirite? Hope there was no cash prize
Using third party models shouldn't be that bad, so long as it's obvious what they're supposed to represent. It can even be a treat, to see what another player did with the concept.
But painting seems less optional. Like, its a tournament. Even if it's casual, you couldn't spray the models with a rattle can or three? An army of models with a base spray and a zenithal highlight, and then a third color randomly sponged over them, is at least more visually interesting than gray.
@@Bluecho4 its not the third party models that concerns me as much as the netlist grey tide. I agree that some alt models are wicked cool, and i feel (arguably) that if models arent available because GW/FW wont make enough of them, that 3d printing them instead is fine. Theyre only shooting themselves in the foot by writing rules that make a unit a must have but not making sure they have enough supply. They clearly write rules to generate demand for models, so they should take stock of those models into consideration. Market is gonna make it work even if they wont.
To avoid The Gotcha I bring a list of stratagems and rules that I’m likely to use and explain how each one works and how I’m likely to use them, which can be pretty self explanatory with most rules, then ask my opponent if they have any questions or concerns about rules interactions. Kind of a balance between not telling people how strata work and dumping your whole game plan at someone’s feet, like “hey I have these tools at my disposal but you don’t know if or when I’m liable to use them”
My friend is peeved by untextured bases. To fuck with him, I use Friday bases that I paint copper and stipple with green to make a nice brushed copper look.
My pet peeve has to be brushes that lose their point almost immediately after you buy them. I know how to look after brushes so having a pointless brush is... pointless.
I use Turbodork for my eldar and Guard. Hell, they were the only ones that had the metallic red I needed for my guard. Highly recommend them.
core rule book, army rule book, oops we fucked up the rule book book. my pet peeve is the fact that gw feels the need to rob us with all the ridiculous rule books. like, just have a website that everyone can look at for free so we can spend our money on more models, new armies and paints!
GW air paint is unbelievably thicc, it really doesn't feel that much thinner than their regular range, so much so I don't even risk putting it through my good airbrush and only use them through my fat needle cheapo airbrush. My pet peeve for gaming is definitely people who never read the FAQ/errata, I generally keep abreast of big developments in other armies, but my friends generally don't and will often turn up reading solely out of their ancient codex + supplement and it honestly feels weird correcting them on their own army's rules. For hobby, it's definitely people who never base their miniatures. To me, a mini is not finished if it isn't based, it's generally not that much effort to have a decent looking base. The excuse of wanting it to not look out of place on the table is bad imo, since if that's the case, use clear bases or base them in the same style as your table. Leaving them as black disks doesn't look any better than putting a little effort in to having a good base scheme. Also the thing to consider is 90% of the time your minis aren't on the table, they're either in storage or on display, in my opinion it's best to have a unifying base theme that compliments the colours of the mini, and places that army into a scene together. Also painting base rims, it just makes it look so much nicer when there's a clean frame to the mini.
Hobby pet peeve: Mold lines no mater what I do I always find more when Im halfway done painting.
Gaming Pet Peeve : when I ask if an opponent can do x and the don't answer or the lie i.e first turn charge/ advance and charge or and Auspex Scan strat/ability.
My pet peeve as for the rules is to have absolutely no flexibility about firing in and out of melee. You can have scenarios of units with 20+ models where thanks to a chokepoint only half can fire and have things like a Doomstalker or a Baneblade in view, massive targets that can be hit just by aiming slightly above, and cannot target, or how you can't make the decision of taking the risk and firing into an ongoing melee. It'd be fine if some units had the "honorable" tag and could not fire at all, but come on! Are you really telling me the Exocrine will refuse to fire into a unit of elite marines just because it could risk hitting its Termagaunts? It promotes this really cheesy meta of "lock your tanky units into combat as much as possible to avoid getting targeted" and makes it so chaff is so much less valuable, and can even end up being an asset of your opponent.
They've gone into the right direction with BGDT.
To be fair, I see your point, but then you'd also have the cheese of people voluntarily locking in your valuable units with tarpits like rippers or something and just blasting away turn after turn. Rather than have an "honorable" keyword that bans shooting into melee, think it would make more sense for certain units and factions (Nids of course with anything, CSM shooting into cultists, DG into poxwalkers,...) to have a special rule that means they can do that. Or hell, actually make the keyword "disposable" and then have the rule be you can shoot at units engaged in melee with "disposable" units, but half the shots are hitting the disposable unit or something.
@@samb.8134 The homebrew I use is that firing into melee carries an unmodifiable -1 to hit, and misses must be rerolled but this time for hitting your own troops. The chaff used to tarpit dies pretty quickly, and it is a good risk vs reward. Funnily enough had a friend who was playing with these homebrew rules and decided to shoot into my Skorpekh blob he locked down with his Poxwalkers. When he was over, all his poxies were dead, and the Skorpekhs lost one wound total. Never seen such dice misfortune in my life.
My biggest pet peeve is Primaris.
I'm a Salamanders fan. In all of Primaris, there's 4 models worth picking up as a Salamander, 1 of them is a character, and none of them have ob sec, which 9th has made the centerpiece of the game. I get that the narrative is Ultramarine centric, but this is ridiculous. It gets even worse for Space Wolves, who have all those cool named core units who end up left in the cold for intercessor blobs and blade guards. Model for model, Primaris versions cost more points and show little if any benefit. Example: intercessors and tac marines. Even on all stats except attacks, where the intercessors get one more per on both regular and sergeants. However, intercessors squads can't take combi, heavy, or special weapons, can't use any dedicated transports except for impulsors, and even in those you can only fit a max of 6 models. Most players aren't gonna take a full 10 model intercessor squad unless it's to park it on an objective in their own deployment zone and hope that their opponent doesn't deep strike something especially gnarly to wipe it out because good luck foot slogging it across the table to make an assault. Either they'll get blasted to bits by enemy heavy weapons, or they'll get swarmed by faster enemy chaff and get bogged down until turn 4-5.
Pet Peeve: Try Hard Narrative Players. When I was getting into the game we had casual, no prize, crusade 2 month long tourni. A guy brought chaos knights and summoned like a sea of daemons for basically no cost. It was so unfun and hopeless I almost stopped playing warhammer.
My biggest pet peeve has always been someone bringing a highly meta list to a supposedly casual game
Yes!!
Especially when your trying to get a new player interested..then they get tabled turn 1...
Yeah, they are never playing again.
Having models exclusively in a box for extended periods of time. No good reason for that.
*Clip of Mr. Krabs saying "Money."*
@@Bladius_ Like they said, no _GOOD_ reason for that.
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What on earth!? Ive had my Iwata HP CS airbrush for 2 years now, with heavy daily usage at one point, and painted, primed, basecoated, everything through that, and never had to replace a part from a clog?!
Its mostly been water based acrylics going through it, but Ive run oils, enamels, lacquers, and even acetone through it (dont do that if you can help it!) and its still functional. Ive abused the crap out of it, and the only thing that could do with replacing is the needle that got an accident bump, and the end of the tip is now slightly bent.
What are you guys doing during cleaning??? :o
I’ve been playing for a few years and the only chaos army’s I see are death guard. I love the death guards models and lore but, but I wish some of the other chaos space marines would get played
They have literally one of the worst codices in the whole game with CSM being one wound still and cultist nerfs. I remember asking how to play my csm force a few weeks ago and several people said to shelve it until the new codex comes out.
Throw A. Way thank you for telling me I have only had a few games of 9th dew to covid the games club I go to has been cancelled fo a while.
I've had my Slaanesh warband since I started 40k, but I didn't play them in two years because under the current rules it's simply not fun. Especially if two of the armies you're usually up against are Primaris Ultramarines and Necrons
2 Pet Peeves 1; gw paints, some colors are bad but the pots are a blight upon us. 2; people who "um ackutally" your paint scheme, I don't care about the "offical" lore this is how I paint Salamanders
This. I have not painted my Ultramarines in the "official" color (Macragge Blue) because I wanted them painted with a metallic blue and the only one I could find was lighter.
They look great with that paint on by I'm afraid to encounter an "acthtually" guy that berates my painting just because "those don't look like Ultramarines to me" or some shit when we can go back to the stores and clubs to play after the lockdown. Fuck that people
This series is all that I live for!
One of my biggest pet peeves is certain armies not getting any new models or being on the GW store. Specifically the Death Korps of Krieg, which is entirely forgeworld, and most of them aren’t in stock most of the time as well as being really expensive for an army that’s based off of having more numbers and suicidal tactics.
My hobby pet peeve: paint labeling! I usually have no idea what pigments are in the paint, whether it's translucent or opaque, or even what medium it's in until I use it on a model
I've got so many pet peeves it makes me sound utterly unreasonable.
1. By far my biggest is don't touch my models without permission. They're mine, not yours. Just don't do it. (It comes from having a whole army of eldar jetbikes and vypers, who break if you so much as look at them wrongly).
2. In game remove failed rolls not successes, it keeps things transparent and reduces the temptation to cheat.
3. The paintbrush face down in water gives me a nervous tick.
4. Personally I refuse to play with unpainted miniatures (however, I don't mind playing against them. They're your models afterall).
4b. An extension of that is that I can't play with models I didn't personally paint. They just don't feel like mine.
Pet peeves: Gamewise, people assuming you like an army just because it's strong at the moment. For example, I like dark eldar because I think that in a universe populated by evil bastards, playing the most evil bastards in said universe is really fun and interesting. The fact they're good right now, which is really just because they're one of the few armies with a ninth ed Codex, has nothing to do with it. Hobbywise, the very simple task of putting the tiny parts of models together, like their arms, is extremely frustrating. Gluing an arm with a hand and an arm with a gun together is annoying enough, trying to glue the ends of the arms to the shoulders at the same time is just infuriating. Probably because of inexperience with that one, but hey, it's still annoying
My pet peeves is my buddies talking about other stuff to my other buddies that isn't 40k related, which takes up a considerable amount of time, a game that is supposed to last 2-3hrs takes 4-5hrs. Just want to play the game, talk about other things after.
Hobby side: painting gold.
Its horrible. It really is. (For me)
Get Vallejo metal color gold it has great coverage, is really shiny, and goes on super smooth.
@@dariuschoksy6934 I agree, vallejo metals look nice but the coverage is meh in comparison to retributor gold from citadel
@@joshuagraham5422 I’m talking specifically about the “Vallejo Metal Color gold” from their “Metal color” line. Shake well and it has far better coverage.
my 2 biggest pet peeves are when people glue the turrets on tanks down so they cant rotate and when people dont thin their paints
Don't throw your airbrush parts away. Just take the airbrush apart and soak the parts in isopropyl or airbrush cleaner. Then after a night of soaking the paint should clean out relatively easily. And bonus if you have an ultrasonic cleaner.
Hobby pet peeve: not magnetizing a squad just to have the next codex ruin the options I glued on... tyranids need to be magnetized!
Gaming pet peeve: not knowing anyone who cares about 40k therefore not playing in over 20 years. Once the pandemic is over I'm going to a game shop!
To be honest, less than 5% of the hobby knows what each nids weapons looks like. You probably could get away with whatever you glued haha
My biggest pet peeve is when armies get bad rules. Just look at the recent Fallen Angels index. It's garbage, it's almlst the same rules as before and they have basically just two models. GW should at least make them viable.
You would honestly have a much better time just running the Fallen using Dark Angels rules, but with an asterisk.
Like, "oh yeah, these are my loyalist Dark Angels". ;D
Hobby Pet Peeve: Basing
I'm actually just getting into building and painting my own models, but I've already become rather frustrated with the number of people insisting on complex details on bases. Yes, once you're done painting the model, you should clean up the base. Yes, adding extra details might look nice and add a bit of flavoring to the model. But, how did we get to this widespread obsession with gluing little tufts of grass to plastic discs? And it's gotten to the point that people are being penalized at tournaments for their bases not being "detailed enough"? It's just such a bizarre form of gatekeeping.
Game Pet Peeve: AP Creep
I know the mechanic is set up the way it is to try to streamline using weapons to counter lightly or heavily armored targets, but the sheer breadth and and variety of AP weapons feels a tad extreme. You can spend a bunch of points giving your troops better saves, and then go up against an entire army of AP -2 or better. Yes, a higher base save is still better, but it feels like you got a lot less value for those points. Your armor save fluctuates so much, I almost wonder if it's even worth putting a number of the data sheet.
I love how we know Matt is talking about base size issues, and is clearly talking about genestealers
Magnetizing all the pew pew options
>favorite model in the game are tyranid warriors
>a box of 3 is 55 dollars
>want 9 per squad + another box for tyranid prime
I wish to perish
I'd say my biggest hobby pet peeve is when assembly instructions either have the wrong number for a specific part or have a step entirely omitted. Drives me completely bonkers.
As for gaming peeve, definitely whenever someone gets super defensive when I ask them about a rule or something about their army. I've only done 2 GTs but my first GT, I played against a player who did a specific re-roll and I commented on it. He snipped back aggressively with, "NO! THAT RULE ONLY APPLIES TO THAT!" and I just sat there like, "Cool... chill out maybe?" lol. That experience literally almost made me want to never a play a GT again.
Hearing them say "gentleman's game!" Brought up a question for the tabletop community since I am just a lore nerd. Is there a notorious 40k player thats like the Tyler1 of the table top world? Or is the off chance of a pissed of right hook from a rando in the store what keeps everyone grounded. How often has someone "Won" a game then had to evac the area as fast as possible to avoid getting jumped lol.
Since no one answered you, generally the worst you'll ever see is someone getting pissy, complaining, and maybe yelling about shit being unfair and just being generally very sour.
My hobby/ game pet peeves gotta be modelling for advantage and picking up peoples models to look at them with out asking. Especially when they’re playing a game. Had a game at a LGC and one of the “regulars” walked up and picked up my wolf guard battle leader right off the table mid game and said my paint scheme was weird and then put him back into the game on the other side of the melee combat. Causing me to loose the whole fight cause my troops didn’t get the re-rolls of 1 on wounds.
Opponents not paying attention when it's my turn, more specifically having conversations with other people during more attention intensive phases (Shooting, psychic, combat).
nah man, its 25% hobbying, 5% playing, 70% complaining.
My pet peeve is other people picking up my models without asking, especially if not by the base
Pet peeves: supposedly playing a narrative crusade but only playing the new armies with codexes and bringing meta noob stomp lists when others bring lists just for fun and playing the narrative games like it’s a comp league
I've run into that same thing. I thought I was joining a narrative campaign league but it was basically a tournament bracket using crusade rules.
@@1tpkdm yeah it was treated where we had a big board that tracked wins and losses. Like I’m fine with comp rules and I even like the idea of a season or tournament but Crusade is not the place for that.
Turbo Dork has amazing metallics, plus has a built in mixer in the bottles
Pet Peeve from when I worked in GW: People making the same. jokes. every. day. Guess what, saying 'Ultrasmurfs' to someone has never, nor will it ever, be funny.
Pet peeve now: Apocalypse games. I have never seen or played in an apocalypse game which doesn't either ebb out when everyone gets bored, or end with a massive argument. You're chasing the dragon guys, it's never as good as you think it will be.
Oh man, a moment of silence for all the times you must have heard people say "heresy" to the point where the word makes you twitch.
HUR DUR KREIG SHOVEL; Kreigsmen kills khorne berserk with TEH SHOVEL1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!11!1!1!!
Magic player here: I'm not proud BUT... i probably know a few hundreds of cards. If you play semicompetitively, or very very regularly, you end up knowing each card in the meta in the formats you play. AAAND, you can call the judge and directly ask for the official oracle for any card at any moment, and if your opponent lied or refused, that won't end up well for them.
I had a guy once tell my friend Prot White protects Stormbreath from boardwipes (End Hostilities, in this case). We were new and he didn't know better and loss 1st place at FNM using my Jeskai deck because of it.
Though, conversely, he also blew out a smug Hydra player who was already bragging to his groupies about his win because of his 15/15 Hydra... Which was then promptly Deflecting Palm'd back into his face for lethal.
So decent night in the end.
My opponent would only know narrative sensible information about my army. All stratagems of stuff will be face down on the table so no one can accuse me of cheating.
Pet Peeve 1. Lack of diversity in sculpts. This hyper macho white dude aesthetic just feels like a relic at this point.
Pet Peeve 2. Codex breakdowns. How did we end up in a world with a dozen space marine allied faction books and only one ork book?
Good news for me I feel the company is (slowly) getting better at these things.
Get an Ultrasonic cleaner to help clean the airbrush, its a life saver
My biggest pet peeve is the lack of 'Play by Intent' at my local stores. It's a gentlemen's game at the end, as I have to trust you to know your rules, and you need to trust me with mine. We slip up here and there, but it's not a video game. Stating your 'intent' for something clears up all of the confusion between you and your opponent.
As an example, you want to hide something from my army. I, as your opponent, should double check to make sure that my units can't see it, or that you need to move it around to protect it.
No one at my local stores does this. They will purposefully keep from saying anything, and then shoot your models that you thought were hidden. I even say I intend to hide them from you, as I would like to not be shot turn one from across the map. 'Gotchas' are abused all the time at my local stores as well, to the point I began learning everyone's codex to avoid them in the future.
Some of the players have adapted by 'forgetting' certain relics or warlord traits until it's convenient, and they don't give me answers, or they give me vague answers, when I ask them what their relics or traits are. It's quite toxic when it happens, and is very infuriating. I remind them that it is literally against the rules to withhold that information from your opponents, but I digress.
TLDR- Players at my local scene don't have much sportsmanship, if any at all, and just want to win rather than play an interesting game.
I love the insights y'all bring, 'cause it's just a buncha dudes, not pros and people who've been in it for 20 years. 10/10
My pet peeve is other people getting butthurt I don't base my models (besides a colour ring around the sides for unit clarity). Like, I get that the models looks better/more immersive when based, but personally I'd bugged more if I based my models a certain way and the board/terrain didn't match (e.g. grass basing on urban terrain)
My pet peeve is the over use of the war cry, “let’s gooooooo!”
Matt is very much right about models that aren't (physically) well balanced or posed in relation to the size of their bases, it's super annoying, gets in the way of playing and can easily damage the miniature, especially if it's resin
Also, my personal pet peeves are netlisting (damages the creative aspect of armybuilding, leads to several fractions barely being played anymore because they're shunned as "weak" and is generally a kinda lame way to get into a game that, in my opinion, requires a lot of trial and error) and people using convenience as an obvious excuse for cheating - e.g. moving a large unit in ways that normally wouldn't be possible, or even obviously beyond their movement value, because they don't feel like measuring. Oddly enough those are ALWAYS the same people who get super anal about line of sight
I hate gotchas. I was playing a casual game with my friend who just got the ynead box, and I was playing necrons and got my skorpekh to get a charge on the yncarne, and my lychguard got a charge onto a shadowseer. I fought with the lychguard and killed the shadowseer, and then he just picks up the yncarne and moves it where the shadowseer died out of engagement range of the skorpekh destroyers. It was his first time using the model and understanding how it worked but man was it frustrating.
My biggest pet peeve for the hobby and the game kind of blend together. Painting.
Hobby: I hate it. It's boring and tedious. Sure things look nice after, but the effort required rips the fun out of my HOBBY.
Game: People who get upset with me or pester me about painting my models. Short answer, No. Long answer, when I feel like it if I feel like it, but until then Noooooooooooo. The game creating a rule in which I play at a disadvantage because I don't enjoy and won't force an aspect of the hobby on myself. Only empowering the people constantly whinging at me not painting my models. To the point the game and the hobby are less enjoyable.
I can Second the recommendations to Jack of Clubs/Wyatt & NextLevelPainting/Kenny, amazing styles of painting, great teachers for new airbrush users.
Heard that windex was an amazing paint thinner for air brushing. I gave it a shot, and it has been awesome. It is tough to get the viscosity right though.
My petpeeve is just HOW bad the power level/points balance is. It's definetly better in 9th then it used to be, but there are still some very dumb examples, expecially for the bigger things (mostly forge world), like models costing almost half as many points then another one and having double the power level. One expecially bad case I had found was with the IG's lords of war: the Baneblade at the time costed around 350 points without wargear, and had a power level of 28, while the Dominus Armored Siege Bombard (that's a big name) costed 600 points, but it's power level was just 19. I get that the whole idea of power levels is making a game "less strictly balanced", but if something alternates between being kinda ok to actually unplayable based on which system you want to use I don't think it's a good thing.
Personal per peeve would be whining
Cause I play death guard and they have a 5 up feel no pain when they fail a savoring throw (it is on all units) and a battle mate that I play with often complains about that rule and than play an meta army to curb stomp me, he has two armigers. And a full force of eldar wraith guard
My pet peeve happens all the time, and that is rolling dice next to previously rolled dice. Which can be extremely confusing for which roll was which since one or more stray dice goes in the other pile, or worse the dice collide and change previously rolled numbers. This causes my blood to boil and it happens in almost every battle report with tiny baby dice boxes for extra pet peeviness. For example, Timmy could have rolled a big cluster of dice followed up by another roll and Timmy tells me he rolled four sixes. I, with my goldfish brain that lacks object permeance, look down at his dice and see three sixes while I question if Timmy actually passed elementary school. Obviously this isn't factoring in cheating, I just have to take someone else's word that my own eyes are wrong. But, you know how this exact scenario could have been completely avoided? If you just didn't roll your dice nearly on top of each other.