I’m 25 years old, raced between 5 and 15 then started knocking around with wrong people ended up quitting racing and getting addicted to Cocaine , 10 years later I’ve been off the coke 2 years now and have bought a new yzf450 and never looked back since, Mx saved my life
I'm 25 never been addicted to cocaine only tried it a few times. I work full time 50hrs a week and still can't afford a new 450 😂 so you must be doing something right. Rent in Massachusetts is too high.. I surf the used market
I’m really proud of you…that’s really great but just beware…once you e exhibited those behaviors…they are on your brain…just waiting to be triggered…2 years I’m not a long time…people are clean for ten years and relapse and they too thought they’d never look back…not trying to be a bummer or be down on you…I’m just saying you’re young and have a lot of life ahead of you…never take for granted what can happen in a lifetime…look at Phillip Seymour Hoffman for example…stay clean just don’t pay yourself too hard on the back and stay focused…sometimes a slip is just around the corner
With due respect man but how do you throw away your life for cocaine. I am not sure what was in your coke but it wasn't legit if it caused you that much grief. Perhaps you started smoking crack but doing coke frequently then stopping sure you prob won't have energy or be in the best mood, but it's not even remotely the same thing being addicted to opiates is. Your body doesn't become physically ill to the point where your terrified of what's to come and will do dam near anything to get it. I guess I just don't understand, perhaps you threw away your life for some other unknown reasons at the time
I came from the era.. I raced ponca and Lorettas with every named mentioned.. Davi gave me more understanding of myself in 6 minutes than any class has gave me in my 34 years.. mental health didn't understand what to do with me.. riding is the only thing that fixes me 🤘
As a retired elementary teacher and high school coach for 27 years, I have seen tons of examples of youth to adult drug addictions. Shame is through training, education and experience to a high percentage we could highly predict who were candidates to end up ruining their lives! Your circle of friends has the heaviest impact.
I always spent Wednesday nights in the garage, prepping the bike and listening to DMXS radio in the early years when it was the only moto show out there. you are right it was my therapy.
I’ve had spine surgery twice, one to fuse vertebrae with rods and screws, and one later to remove the hardware due to pain and discomfort from the hardware. I never even took so much as an aspirin. Different folks have different mental and physical capabilities. I have no answers. I sympathize with those who lose that battle.
Definitely not limited to drugs. If you can direct your addiction to something positively, or at least less destructive than drugs, you'll be so much better off. I have an addictive personality but I don't get into drugs because if I like them too much I know what could happen.
When Millsaps gives the example of guys at the top of their game, “that let a pill ruin their entire life. They couldn’t grasp what you needed to turn their life around.” He’s very lucky to not know what addiction to opiates is like. Completely different. Doctors were passing it out like candy during the late 90’s / early 2000’s. If you were one of the unlucky ones that got hurt, you were exposed to it. Some were lucky, many were not.
I was. They gave it for so long before people knew what was happening. Then they cut you off without tapering and you are miserable. THAT is the primary way it happens and has nothing to do with personality. No one wakes up and says “Hey I want to be addicted to opiates”. I’m sorry, but you should educate yourself about addiction rather than being so contemptuous. Not directed to you MX guy. 🙏🏻
@@Rick-zx2ik okay i’m a little lost here.. So are you agreeing with me on what i’m saying here, or are you not understanding what i’m saying here at all? I’m saying that Millsaps doesn’t get it at all..
@@MxFlyer125 Yes sir, absolutely agreeing with you. I’m saying getting addicted to opiates happened to me and it took me down a dark path for a while until I realized that there was help available. DM and Gypsy don’t get that it’s not something that anyone wants to do. It took over my life.
@@MxFlyer125 Not anything I want to go through again that’s for sure. Just reread my original reply and I was specifically talking to Millsaps, Gypsy, and anyone else who thinks people enjoy being addicted to pain medication. You are the “MX guy” I was referring to when I stated that my comments aren’t directed at you. 😛👊🏼 I’m 54 now and a Psychiatric Nurse Practitioner and I recently read some literature on something called Opioid Induced Hyperalgesia. It’s very interesting and I had that experience at the end of my long term use. I still have chronic pain, but it’s much lower now that I don’t put opiates in my body. That’s something the manufacturers don’t want the public to know. Lmk what you think. 👊🏼🙏🏻
Im a 32 year old Illinois native. Aside from my stint in Cali from 99-05 ive been going to red bud almost every year of my life and I still remember '11 being the hottest Red Bud I've ever been too. It was absolutely brutal. R.I.P. Josh.
Born in 97, started racing in 2000. I remember I broke my first bone in about 02/03 and after that it was a broken bones almost every year. In 07 I ended up breaking both my legs. I remember the amount of pain medication, muscle relaxers I was being prescribed at just the age of 6-11 years old... They really prescribed whatever and however much they wanted to in the early 2000's. Lots of kids got hooked quick....
Opioids are a whole different ballgame than other drugs.You don’t have to be an addict to get hooked.You can become opioid dependent which is where your body actually craves the drug.Its very difficult to detox.
thank you everyone needs a better understanding of how opiates work because they destroy your bodies ability to deal with any kind of pain so then you constantly need more to deal with what might be considered low level pain it’s a shit show literally and the drug manufacturers knew exactly what they were doing
I loved watching Izzi and Stroup ride when they were young bucks. Hopefully we'll get to see them at speed again . Hang in there boys, life is long and hard, be strong.
I work as a probation agent and have specifically worked with drug users my entire career. I have supervised local pro motocross racers during my career. People make bad decisions, that does not make them bad people! Battling drug addiction is probably the hardest addiction to battle. It affects EVERYTHING in your brain and life. I really hope that these guys can stay clean and if anyone who is struggling, seek help now before its too late. Do not ever say that "it won't happen to me" because it always catches up to you.
I was not going to comment on this and tend to steer away from videos on him altogether but as someone who dated Austin’s probably most recently, he is very misunderstood. I think Davi may have some accuracy in knowing him- they were texting in 2022 when we were together. Austin speaks very highly of hin. Austin is very very disciplined, committed to recovery, lives his day to day life accordingly, and as someone who is the idea of “successful” - I was surprised at how much he taught me. Addiction is in my family and also the clinical work I do (God bless you. Being a probation officer is not for the faint of heart and TRULY being a good one or bad one can have direct impact and control of the fate of another’s life so… I love what you are saying here. I work with children with severe trauma in the hopes of preventing them from winding up in your hands but…. I’ve seen some amazing judicial systems and some very scary ones. You seem like.. a rare one) but etc - what I camw here to say is one of my favorite sayings (dr Gabor mate) “instead of asking why the addiction, ask why the pain” thank you for giving me hope ❤ I could give quite a few thoughts on this but for the sake of privacy- and I raced motocross so being around this lifestyle and how it can somewhat fail to set people up for long term success and developing life skills as children… also seeing many parents living through their children (not speaking to austin just in general) just a lot of elements in motocross.. besides being adrenaline junkies
I’m only here for the good addiction. Thanks for reminding me about the need for an outlet. I haven’t been riding and I need that good physical addiction back in my life. Physically I feel like shit, and psychologically it’s effecting me. The economy is risky and I’m worried about it, so in my own defense, and because I’m a dad, I’ve been working nonstop seven days a week. I need to get back on the horse!
I can say one thing davi has had a rough life but he's a super good guy in and out I've got to watch him grow up from on a 60 to pro have started many race for him never will forget one year at loretta Lynn's he had atorn up knee and still give it every thing he had he's a winner in all ways
It’s crazy that even a clean cut guy that doesn’t even like smoking weed for his TBI can see that opiates are NOT the same as weed and even coke… good insight
One of the biggest issues is the idea that you can and should be pain-free. Things hurt, and often, with chronic pain, there really isn't anything to take. Certainly opioids aren't a solution. I have chronic pain in my feet, and there's nothing i can do about it.
I have been struggling with opioid addiction since I broke my ankle in 2010. It’s been 14 years of misery and destroyed my whole life. I’m not who I was supposed to be. 2 months clean. Iv had 4 years before, but relapsed during Covid lockdowns and a few times after. Still trying tho. OD’d twice once in 2013 and once in 2020. Not giving up but sheesh this shit sucks dick mate. I will say tho, last time I did it I finally didn’t enjoy it. I won’t be relapsing any time soon. And plus I’m saving up for a dirtbike. I refuse to spend more money on this drug. I’m done.
Its different for everyone. I became addicted after shattering my collar bone. multiple surgeries later and months of opiates. I woke up one morning and finally didnt have enough pain to take them. I decided that day i didnt want to do it anymore! that was the start of about 2 weeks of hell. But i am forever grateful i was able to win that battle.
Working on mental strength is the greatest thing you can do. Honestly that they key to a good healthy life you have a strong mentality everything else will follow. Addiction starts because people can’t cope with something then they can’t cope without whatever they did to aid them.
BS, weak willed people have problems with addiction. You have to take control emotionally. Hard for some, but necessary to be in control of your destiny.
@@gungadingobullshit response. Some of the most mentally strong people I know have dealt with addiction and came out the other side. Addiction doesn’t discriminate. It can get the phd Dr and the janitor. You don’t understand how hard it is to get addicted to a substance and go through withdrawals getting mentally and physically sick if you don’t get that substance. It’s hell. So come down of your high horse there bud. Just because you don’t struggle with it and “well it isn’t a problem for me so these people must be weak” doesn’t make them weak people.
@@cooganbeggs4942 yes and no when things are good they are good, but when things get bad like going thru a divorce like I am now I’d love to get high and forget everything and feel ok. But it temporary and I know me I’d lose everything again. But I do it for my kids and suboxone helps me stay off which is a maintenance drug. But knowing what I know now I wouldn’t have even gotten on subs. Another thing is fent is a scary thing too, that helps me not wanna go back too!
@@cooganbeggs4942 it does bother me every now and then, especially when a bunch of bs is going on I just wanna run and hide and feel good and happy about everything even tho I’ll still have to face it when I come back to normal. Main reason staying on them long as I did was to not get sick
I have an addictive personality and it's miserable. It's not as easy as people think. I'm super disciplined and dedicated in everything I do but it's hard to explain
I imagine opiates in that era hit every single sport? it's wild. It's weird to have lived through. They used to give you opiates for any kind of pain for a period.
I once read a quote "People don't take drugs to feel good, they take drugs to feel less bad". Oftentimes where there's addiction there's an underlying issue that the brain is self medicating for. With riding, while it can be a high, sometimes the pressure and sacrifice of being competitive is the issue.
For god sake sugar is addictive,people can almost be addicted to anything man. Obsessed and over indulging is addiction. Some People are more compulsive than others
@@zacharyradford5552it kind of isn’t tho. There is just a certain percentage of people with that addiction gene. I had a good buddy that was bad bad. Once he got clean he doesn’t do drugs anymore but he still has that over compulsive addiction personality. He has 10 or 20 of everything. Like his rave trailer. He can’t just carry an extra set of bars. He has like 20 hanging there. Most people can bring an extra tube or two. He has to have 20 tubes and 5 sets of pre mounted wheels. It’s crazy. It’s everything in his life. If he is into it then he has to over do it. One is just never enough On the good side tho. He is great to ride with. You can literally show up hungover in your underwear and he will have everything to get ya riding for the day 😂😂
I saw this documentary thing. It even happens in the animal kingdom. Like rats. They would put a 100 rats in a cage and give them food or cocaine. They could choose. 25% every test group would choose the drugs and just do them to they die. Herds of elephants when they would come across fermented fruit tress. Roughly 25% would just stay there and Injest til they die. I always hated the “disease” thought of it. I thought like the guy above. Just be mentally strong man it can’t be that hard. But actually researching the science of it. Idk. Makes me wander. Like when I was younger I could party for days. Do all kinds of different drugs and then just get my shit straight. Focus and show up for races and never think about it. But there was always a few guys that once they started. They never stopped
Rip 555 Trevor Donnie I used to ride with him back in the early-mid 2000s and dated his sister he was a special talent that was ruined by Drugs. Kenny Regal was also a great rider from my area I grew up with like a brother to me his older sister and brother both ended up racing professionally but when we where younger kenny was better than both of them but was getting serious injuries as a kid on a 65 and 85 stopped riding before he ever made it to the big bikes but just messing around on a private track he was still the fastest. Kenny ended up addicted to drugs and is currently in prison in Northern Michigan
Anxiety and depression are big factors. It's easier to be fucked up and feel nothing than to suffer with yourself and your demons. It's not as easy as 'just stop' or 'don't do it.'
It has a lot to do with past trauma also , pain killers kill all pain mental and physical. First time took them my anxiety and demons quieted for a few hours . That was the start . 20 years later I’ve made it past but had a few dark years .
I was going to motorcycle mechanics school in Florida at that same time. I can tell you for a fact that stuff hit hard and for whatever reason seemed like so many ppl were doing it. Me and my brother never use to take anything even like cough syrup or whatever and we both got hurt and were put on pain meds and boom! All it took we both went down deep dark hole! Some how by grace of god we both made it out unlike a lot of ppl and we both joke about it now like what happened and how lol we didn’t wake up one morning and say hey think I wanna be addicted to pain pills! The doctors were pushing that stuff like unbelievable it was insane! I just don’t think there was any warnings and I honestly think it was pushed from high high up for some stupid reason.
When i broke my leg being on painkillers was fine just coming off sucked but i knew that going into it. So i can see how it can get out of control pretty quick.
*Because of injuries I have strong **#opiates**. So I can understand not wanting to go through **#withdrawals** but I do not understand chasing the high*
please understand that the withdrawal is so terrible from opiates that it’s beyond what you can imagine you become dependent don’t get me wrong some people want to be high but many do not it’s important we educate people about chemical dependence
Its not *that bad. Yes its terrible... But people who run from it for years have it built up in their heads to be the absolute worst thing possible. Its like a really bad flu out both ends for less than a week. Its the rest of the life thats actually more difficult.
Speaking from experience of addiction. Most riders that are spun out, is due to injuries/surgery. Having medical professionals give them pain pills and say its okay to take it. By the time the prescription is gone and the injury is healed most people get violently sick if they don't take more. And to address the "people just like to be fucked up" it can be true but in most cases a true drug addict is going to us in order to not be sick rather than use to get fucked up.
Ok, last comment. I think it's hard for certain mindsets to understand, but also if you lack a background. A lot of people have a lot of trauma, for whatever reason, and they get on opiates for a real reason, and it masks the emotional pains too and you weren't prepared for it. It enables you to suddenly achieve more, while on the opiates, and you realize what is happening but don't know a solution. I had to be on opiates for a liver transplant for PSC (not alcohol, diagnosed at 20 in the USAF), and it was really hard to come off of them without dealing with the other stuff.
D34, yup. Haven't heard of Mills in a while, last heard busted for home invasion. Anyone know what hes up to? Last saw him Calverton years ago, kinda heavy but still fast af.
@@mxkidd38 I raced D34 for years as well. I knew Ryan quite well on and off the track. I actually bought his 2001 CR250 from him right before he turned pro and moved to California. Was so awesome when he made it. I knew it wasnt good though when I saw who he was hanging with. Had a few good rides but never reached his potential. Then he disappeared. He resurfaced in prison years later. He told me his story of how he ended up in prison. Pretty sad. I just heard the other day that he showed up at a local race last year on a borrowed bike with borrowed gear. Waxed everyone and hasn't been seen since.
It's not too much work if what your trying to numb out is way worse. Addiction sucks. You just don't know what someone has been thru. Might seem stupid but everyone's pain is different no matter how slight we might see it as.
What you guys dont grasp is the opioids actually change the chemistry of your brain when a person uses them even as prescribed for like as little as 2 weeks. Do you really think this crap would have wreaked the havoc on the world that it did if ppl could just tell themselves man i gotta stop this for my own good. And i get it, Davi just isnt educated on the subject enough, lots of ppl who express their opinion about it arent. But theres a lot more going on in opioid addiction than just man i like the way this feels. I battled pills and heroine for 15 years, i was married with a newborn when i got hurt and it grabbed me. Im a bodybuilder, i dont have the "personality" for it either but this stuff doesn't discriminate...ive been in rehab with drs, lawyers, state troopers, men, women, children, ppl from all walks of life. Be thankful this beast never got a hold of you....
100% agree. When I was in rehab, there were people that were DRs and lawyers in there, as well as people off the streets. Addiction doesn’t discriminate. The whole “I don’t get it, I never had a problem,addicts are just weak” is such a bullshit mindset. Battling addiction is one of the hardest things I’ve dealt with in life.
Hey guys I was addicted for 25 years and now a year and a half clean it's tuff but can't be caught by police again or lose my license for 4 years im addicted to my dirt bikes now im 43
I hate to say this but i think someone in a family always ends up being that "example" for others and its helpful for some but very unfortunate for others. Some of my family members have chose that path and addiction and have stranded my 87 year old grandmother with a 10 year old to raise. Its eye opening and frustrating. But addiction is a hard task to understand and overcome
To say that people who struggle with opiate addiction are mentally weak is completely untrue. Some addicts are the strongest mentally and physically you’ll ever come across. Problem is (and I found out the hard way) Opiates can take down even the strongest. Spent the better part of my life on and off of Pills/Hero-in and it is t because im weak. It’s so damn powerful when you can feel that good. It isn’t the terrible withdrawals either, been through those many times only to get right back on. Say what you will but unless those opiates hit you like they do “us” you’ll only ever believe it’s because they didn’t have the “strength” to put it down.
Yeah, there’s something to that because I have never liked pills or drinking. It never made me feel good after surgeries. I always just felt weird. I always wanted to get off as quick as I possibly could cause I didn’t feel right.
Agree man. There’s a lot of condescending comments on here portraying “well I’ve never had a problem with that, so those people must be weak” the truth is much different.
I remember racing in my early years on 80s and maybe nicos upbringing messed him up. I remember every time I'd see him and his dad at the track. His dad screaming at the top of his lungs cause he wasn't in first place. I know there's alot of money invested into racing but damn.
Little bit ignorant from both parties here, love this podcast though so much. But for those struggling with substance abuse, it’s not as easy as just fucking getting over it. Davey is blessed to be one of the people that doesn’t have the heartache of having one mistake run the rest of their lives. I think it’s something stupid like 90% of addicts never recover. That’s not a decision at that point. It’s a predisposed genetic disposition towards dependancy on drugs that not everyone has. I’ve wanted to put the booze down since I was 19. Fast forward to 36, on a Thursday, and here I am. Same as it ever was. All I can see is the things I’ve missed out on, the ability I have, and that the booze and drugs have kept me from, the love I have. And I can’t live without a day or two not being on the piss.
People don't understand how bad the painkiller addiction is, it grabs you and it's hard to stop. Taking painkillers make you feel great but to some people they get sick to their stomach and want to sleep but some people it make them feel wonderful and that's why it's hard to stop and if they stop they get super sick and can't sleep. Everyone who is addicted i gaurentee want to stop and if they could stop by the snap of a finger they would but they can't it grabs a hold of you and won't let go. Painkiller addiction is very evil.
dude serious please don’t post stuff like this out of respect for people and their families that have been thru hell you honestly do not understand what’s it’s really like if your making a comment like this
Except that’s not a lot of people’s problems. They miss the feeling of being fucked beyond belief. Addiction comes from mental weakness because you can’t cope with something. You you truly mentally don’t wanna do something then you won’t.
You’ve got to blame the doctors that’s prescribing it, as a doctor you’ve got to explain the side effects of these drugs and think about the long term damage that it’ll do to you. I raced back in the day with Partridge, Costella, Stewart, Grant all of these guys back in the early 2000 it wasn’t until after racing I had neck surgery and got addicted to medication, withdrawals sucked but I was willing to kick it and have stayed away and been clean for 16yrs. I look back and miss the days of driving to Ponca, Loretta’s, etc I feel back bad for these guys that are battling addiction.
We went too far the other way though. I can't even get panadine forte anymore. Though I am noted as a drug seeker because I had back issues and asked for more than panadol and that I couldn't have endone because 12 years earlier it made me aggressive in the 3 days I took it. I tried to tell them I've never had anything but that and another for only 7 days in my life and they just thought I was a junkie. I then tried to get 20 years of my files from my old doctor and they'd moved office and destroyed my files because I hadn't been there in 5 years. So now I'm apparently just a drug seeking junkie lol and everytime I go in with an injury I have to tell them that I don't want any drugs for them to take my injury seriously. Its a fkn joke.
Huge shout out to Will Hahn for getting addicted to pain pills and being able to say fuck this and suffer through the withdrawals and quit. I wish he spoke out about it more to show these other guys it’s possible. I know so many guys that I grew up racing with that destroyed their lives on that shit
But what was in Davi Jones locker 2015? Gotta remember how many injuries Moto guys endure, plus big money machine pushing us to ride when we’re not fully healed and hurting still. The sport isn’t for everybody, you gotta be effed in the head to be successful in Moto and make it out in one piece
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I hate that he says "you let a pill ruin your life" a Dr gave it to us and told us weed be back racing in 9 months but it really took 10 years. 3 years clean and I'm back ripping like I was a teenager I didn't let anything ruin my life just a few years. Though I do understand how he cant understand the same way.
There is no high like riding a bike fast and so meny of us are chasing whatever high we can get that still doesn't come close to smashed some big doubles or massive step up-down hills flying
The difference between that era and this era is Drs were giving those guys 90 plus percocets or Oxy’s a month and nowadays if you have surgery they might give you 7-10 pills which isn’t enough to get addicted on.
It’s not a generational thing. It’s very much still happening. I think people are just so aware of it now that the people around them, and the doctors as well at the patient are very careful at the highest level of competitors. Also I think with all the technology in the medical industry injuries are healing a lot faster than they used to whick means doctors don’t have to keep the patients on pain killers as long. I know/know of people of almost all ages from about 12 years and up who have had issues with it.
TBH, never been a huge fan of Milsaps, but my view after this is changing that. With that said, I never put the two together, but then again, I do a few concussions under my belt. I did used to ride with a couple of guys, were either popping pain killers or on meth. Really such a shame. Such talent lost. Glad I never did anything more than OTC for my broken ankles or F'd up knees. I'd prob be in the same boat.
It was sad to see so many gifted ppl basically throw talent and gifts away without a second thought! I honestly still can’t think of why I choose to go down that path. Like I said me and my brother both try to figure out how or why we did and neither one of us have an answer. I still look back and can’t believe it. I don’t drink or anything now Just torch a head of lettuce before I go to bed but never during day only to go to bed lol just terrible those two had so much talent and such a bright future I hate seeing what happened
I got caught on the opioids for a while, was able to get off them, stuck with the white for a long time, from being homeless to a home owner and now completely sober for 90 days. Always pull for Nico hood he can figure it out.
It's not that simple. Kinda like a clutch for the average rider. It's a slow degradation. U wake up and boom its over. Ur an addict. It starts with 1 beer on a Friday then before u know it, u can't stop.
Want to feel an opioid high? Here’s my formula - 1. Do something that you feel is dangerous, 2. Which takes skill to pull off = feeling of elation like Vicodin. I would prescribe a 125 and a freshly groomed track. I’ve had the pills and a good day of riding is way better. Of course riding for fun and riding hurt as your job/ income are two different things.
I partied stupid hard through the first 25 years of my life doin everything we could get from weed to coke but opioids are a whole diff monster once you are physically dependent. Nothing ever bothered me until I tried stopping opiates. I’m glad you guys don’t understand it and hopefully you never do.
Thanks for sharing your story. I hope it helps people just to say no the first time. It sounds like its hard to beat I understand addiction just not this type. I hope someone can share a plan with you to get you sober and not in pain. Stay strong and reach out for help my brother. Im rooting for you
Dr’s at that time were incentivized and pushing Oxy hard, and that got alot of these guys hooked and they turned to street heroine once they couldn’t afford or get more from Dr.
It's because it's was the era of push oxys for any little thing. Sprained pinky? Here's 90 oxycotton.than the withdrawals 😩😫 it's impossible I'm still going through issues from those years . Nowadays u break your back they give you Tylenol u can't even get em now. Now this is the Fetty era God knows what's next just glad I got out before the Fetty hit the streets
Im 35 and am from that era and I went through all of that. Glad I am still here and have moved on from that in life. 5 years clean on July 2nd
I’m 25 years old, raced between 5 and 15 then started knocking around with wrong people ended up quitting racing and getting addicted to Cocaine , 10 years later I’ve been off the coke 2 years now and have bought a new yzf450 and never looked back since, Mx saved my life
Proud of you man…this shit is no joke and some people end up 6 feet under..
I'm 25 never been addicted to cocaine only tried it a few times. I work full time 50hrs a week and still can't afford a new 450 😂 so you must be doing something right. Rent in Massachusetts is too high.. I surf the used market
I’m really proud of you…that’s really great but just beware…once you e exhibited those behaviors…they are on your brain…just waiting to be triggered…2 years I’m not a long time…people are clean for ten years and relapse and they too thought they’d never look back…not trying to be a bummer or be down on you…I’m just saying you’re young and have a lot of life ahead of you…never take for granted what can happen in a lifetime…look at Phillip Seymour Hoffman for example…stay clean just don’t pay yourself too hard on the back and stay focused…sometimes a slip is just around the corner
That's awesome man. Gives me hope.
With due respect man but how do you throw away your life for cocaine. I am not sure what was in your coke but it wasn't legit if it caused you that much grief. Perhaps you started smoking crack but doing coke frequently then stopping sure you prob won't have energy or be in the best mood, but it's not even remotely the same thing being addicted to opiates is. Your body doesn't become physically ill to the point where your terrified of what's to come and will do dam near anything to get it. I guess I just don't understand, perhaps you threw away your life for some other unknown reasons at the time
Thanks both of you for having the balls to speak about this. 💪
I came from the era.. I raced ponca and Lorettas with every named mentioned.. Davi gave me more understanding of myself in 6 minutes than any class has gave me in my 34 years.. mental health didn't understand what to do with me.. riding is the only thing that fixes me 🤘
Dude this show has just had wall to wall bangers for weeks now. Love it Keep it up 🤘🏻
It really has been tho… lol
As a retired elementary teacher and high school coach for 27 years, I have seen tons of examples of youth to adult drug addictions. Shame is through training, education and experience to a high percentage we could highly predict who were candidates to end up ruining their lives!
Your circle of friends has the heaviest impact.
Getting the bike ready during the week, it’s just as therapeutic as riding it on saturday!!
I always spent Wednesday nights in the garage, prepping the bike and listening to DMXS radio in the early years when it was the only moto show out there. you are right it was my therapy.
No doubt, I fought this battle and getting back on a bike has been the biggest help with my mental health hands down
I’ve had spine surgery twice, one to fuse vertebrae with rods and screws, and one later to remove the hardware due to pain and discomfort from the hardware. I never even took so much as an aspirin. Different folks have different mental and physical capabilities. I have no answers. I sympathize with those who lose that battle.
This is one of your best interviews by far when it comes to Truth with the sport... You are part of dirtbike culture
Davi is a legend. A true just legit person. Always could tell he was absorbed into the spot. Watched him heaps growing up, truly underrated.
Davi was an awesome interview
Addiction comes in many forms, it's not limited to drugs. It's stealthy, and nefarious.
Definitely not limited to drugs. If you can direct your addiction to something positively, or at least less destructive than drugs, you'll be so much better off. I have an addictive personality but I don't get into drugs because if I like them too much I know what could happen.
@@MachetehandyMore often than not acknowledging you're an addict is the biggest step to becoming sober or dealing with it
Millsaps was a great guest on, love the story telling of the behind the scenes in the best generation of moto
When Millsaps gives the example of guys at the top of their game, “that let a pill ruin their entire life. They couldn’t grasp what you needed to turn their life around.”
He’s very lucky to not know what addiction to opiates is like. Completely different.
Doctors were passing it out like candy during the late 90’s / early 2000’s. If you were one of the unlucky ones that got hurt, you were exposed to it. Some were lucky, many were not.
I was. They gave it for so long before people knew what was happening. Then they cut you off without tapering and you are miserable. THAT is the primary way it happens and has nothing to do with personality. No one wakes up and says “Hey I want to be addicted to opiates”. I’m sorry, but you should educate yourself about addiction rather than being so contemptuous. Not directed to you MX guy. 🙏🏻
@@Rick-zx2ik okay i’m a little lost here.. So are you agreeing with me on what i’m saying here, or are you not understanding what i’m saying here at all? I’m saying that Millsaps doesn’t get it at all..
@@MxFlyer125 Yes sir, absolutely agreeing with you. I’m saying getting addicted to opiates happened to me and it took me down a dark path for a while until I realized that there was help available. DM and Gypsy don’t get that it’s not something that anyone wants to do. It took over my life.
@@Rick-zx2ik ok got it now…. I’ve been there too man so i understand.
@@MxFlyer125 Not anything I want to go through again that’s for sure. Just reread my original reply and I was specifically talking to Millsaps, Gypsy, and anyone else who thinks people enjoy being addicted to pain medication. You are the “MX guy” I was referring to when I stated that my comments aren’t directed at you. 😛👊🏼
I’m 54 now and a Psychiatric Nurse Practitioner and I recently read some literature on something called Opioid Induced Hyperalgesia. It’s very interesting and I had that experience at the end of my long term use. I still have chronic pain, but it’s much lower now that I don’t put opiates in my body. That’s something the manufacturers don’t want the public to know. Lmk what you think. 👊🏼🙏🏻
Blessed and Highly Favored!!! I've been addicted to riding and racing! Still to this day! Never understood those other addictions 😔🙏
Im a 32 year old Illinois native. Aside from my stint in Cali from 99-05 ive been going to red bud almost every year of my life and I still remember '11 being the hottest Red Bud I've ever been too. It was absolutely brutal. R.I.P. Josh.
Man I grew up in IL but you have managed to live in the two worst states there is LOL. I successfully escaped many years ago.
Born in 97, started racing in 2000. I remember I broke my first bone in about 02/03 and after that it was a broken bones almost every year. In 07 I ended up breaking both my legs. I remember the amount of pain medication, muscle relaxers I was being prescribed at just the age of 6-11 years old... They really prescribed whatever and however much they wanted to in the early 2000's. Lots of kids got hooked quick....
Opioids are a whole different ballgame than other drugs.You don’t have to be an addict to get hooked.You can become opioid dependent which is where your body actually craves the drug.Its very difficult to detox.
thank you everyone needs a better understanding of how opiates work because they destroy your bodies ability to deal with any kind of pain so then you constantly need more to deal with what might be considered low level pain it’s a shit show literally and the drug manufacturers knew exactly what they were doing
I loved watching Izzi and Stroup ride when they were young bucks. Hopefully we'll get to see them at speed again . Hang in there boys, life is long and hard, be strong.
I’m 6 years clean, was a full blown needle junkie..I’ve came from nothing and rebuilt, got 4 bikes in the garage..they are my dope now.
I work as a probation agent and have specifically worked with drug users my entire career. I have supervised local pro motocross racers during my career. People make bad decisions, that does not make them bad people! Battling drug addiction is probably the hardest addiction to battle. It affects EVERYTHING in your brain and life. I really hope that these guys can stay clean and if anyone who is struggling, seek help now before its too late. Do not ever say that "it won't happen to me" because it always catches up to you.
I was not going to comment on this and tend to steer away from videos on him altogether but as someone who dated Austin’s probably most recently, he is very misunderstood. I think Davi may have some accuracy in knowing him- they were texting in 2022 when we were together. Austin speaks very highly of hin. Austin is very very disciplined, committed to recovery, lives his day to day life accordingly, and as someone who is the idea of “successful” - I was surprised at how much he taught me. Addiction is in my family and also the clinical work I do (God bless you. Being a probation officer is not for the faint of heart and TRULY being a good one or bad one can have direct impact and control of the fate of another’s life so… I love what you are saying here. I work with children with severe trauma in the hopes of preventing them from winding up in your hands but…. I’ve seen some amazing judicial systems and some very scary ones. You seem like.. a rare one) but etc - what I camw here to say is one of my favorite sayings (dr Gabor mate) “instead of asking why the addiction, ask why the pain” thank you for giving me hope ❤ I could give quite a few thoughts on this but for the sake of privacy- and I raced motocross so being around this lifestyle and how it can somewhat fail to set people up for long term success and developing life skills as children… also seeing many parents living through their children (not speaking to austin just in general) just a lot of elements in motocross.. besides being adrenaline junkies
Davi said it like it is. People won’t like it but you can never baby an addict. This was him being brutally honest and saying how it is.
By the way Jace this I think is the most honest show we've had to date
I’m only here for the good addiction. Thanks for reminding me about the need for an outlet. I haven’t been riding and I need that good physical addiction back in my life. Physically I feel like shit, and psychologically it’s effecting me. The economy is risky and I’m worried about it, so in my own defense, and because I’m a dad, I’ve been working nonstop seven days a week. I need to get back on the horse!
I can say one thing davi has had a rough life but he's a super good guy in and out I've got to watch him grow up from on a 60 to pro have started many race for him never will forget one year at loretta Lynn's he had atorn up knee and still give it every thing he had he's a winner in all ways
It’s crazy that even a clean cut guy that doesn’t even like smoking weed for his TBI can see that opiates are NOT the same as weed and even coke… good insight
One of the biggest issues is the idea that you can and should be pain-free. Things hurt, and often, with chronic pain, there really isn't anything to take. Certainly opioids aren't a solution.
I have chronic pain in my feet, and there's nothing i can do about it.
Look up John Sarnos work on chronic pain. Great into RUclips channel to TMS pain is “pain free you.” Worth looking into.
I have been struggling with opioid addiction since I broke my ankle in 2010. It’s been 14 years of misery and destroyed my whole life. I’m not who I was supposed to be. 2 months clean. Iv had 4 years before, but relapsed during Covid lockdowns and a few times after. Still trying tho. OD’d twice once in 2013 and once in 2020. Not giving up but sheesh this shit sucks dick mate. I will say tho, last time I did it I finally didn’t enjoy it. I won’t be relapsing any time soon. And plus I’m saving up for a dirtbike. I refuse to spend more money on this drug. I’m done.
You’re going to get through it man. Just stay strong.
MotoTech 60v/72v can get you started in the park now!
Stay strong get on suboxon if u need to but don’t go back!
Addiction is a monster most people have no control over the addiction they really don’t want to be doing it
Its different for everyone. I became addicted after shattering my collar bone. multiple surgeries later and months of opiates. I woke up one morning and finally didnt have enough pain to take them. I decided that day i didnt want to do it anymore! that was the start of about 2 weeks of hell. But i am forever grateful i was able to win that battle.
praise God you overcame it i’m so happy for you I really glad they spoke about this because it needs to be talked about
Working on mental strength is the greatest thing you can do. Honestly that they key to a good healthy life you have a strong mentality everything else will follow. Addiction starts because people can’t cope with something then they can’t cope without whatever they did to aid them.
BS, weak willed people have problems with addiction. You have to take control emotionally. Hard for some, but necessary to be in control of your destiny.
@@gungadingobullshit response. Some of the most mentally strong people I know have dealt with addiction and came out the other side. Addiction doesn’t discriminate. It can get the phd Dr and the janitor. You don’t understand how hard it is to get addicted to a substance and go through withdrawals getting mentally and physically sick if you don’t get that substance. It’s hell. So come down of your high horse there bud. Just because you don’t struggle with it and “well it isn’t a problem for me so these people must be weak” doesn’t make them weak people.
Pills screwed my life up after an injury, and I’m still paying for it. But I’ve been clean for almost 6 years. It sucks never wish it on anyone
Well done brother! I’ve never had a problem but I’m curious. After 6 years do you ever get over it? Or does it still effect you?
@@cooganbeggs4942 yes and no when things are good they are good, but when things get bad like going thru a divorce like I am now I’d love to get high and forget everything and feel ok. But it temporary and I know me I’d lose everything again. But I do it for my kids and suboxone helps me stay off which is a maintenance drug. But knowing what I know now I wouldn’t have even gotten on subs. Another thing is fent is a scary thing too, that helps me not wanna go back too!
@@cooganbeggs4942 it does bother me every now and then, especially when a bunch of bs is going on I just wanna run and hide and feel good and happy about everything even tho I’ll still have to face it when I come back to normal. Main reason staying on them long as I did was to not get sick
I have an addictive personality and it's miserable. It's not as easy as people think. I'm super disciplined and dedicated in everything I do but it's hard to explain
I imagine opiates in that era hit every single sport? it's wild. It's weird to have lived through. They used to give you opiates for any kind of pain for a period.
The messed up thing is that the pharmaceutical companies knew they were addictive.
I once read a quote "People don't take drugs to feel good, they take drugs to feel less bad".
Oftentimes where there's addiction there's an underlying issue that the brain is self medicating for. With riding, while it can be a high, sometimes the pressure and sacrifice of being competitive is the issue.
That quote is about half true. Recreational substance use is real. Whether it be booze or chemicals. Addiction is a whole different thing.
@bmotomo421 maybe. How often is recreational use a means of "loosening up", though? It implies anxiety and insecurity in social settings.
Another version "people aren't addicted to drugs / alcohol, they're addictied to escaping reality "
For god sake sugar is addictive,people can almost be addicted to anything man. Obsessed and over indulging is addiction. Some People are more compulsive than others
Mental strength. It’s really that simple.
@@zacharyradford5552it kind of isn’t tho. There is just a certain percentage of people with that addiction gene. I had a good buddy that was bad bad. Once he got clean he doesn’t do drugs anymore but he still has that over compulsive addiction personality. He has 10 or 20 of everything. Like his rave trailer. He can’t just carry an extra set of bars. He has like 20 hanging there. Most people can bring an extra tube or two. He has to have 20 tubes and 5 sets of pre mounted wheels. It’s crazy. It’s everything in his life. If he is into it then he has to over do it. One is just never enough
On the good side tho. He is great to ride with. You can literally show up hungover in your underwear and he will have everything to get ya riding for the day 😂😂
I saw this documentary thing. It even happens in the animal kingdom. Like rats. They would put a 100 rats in a cage and give them food or cocaine. They could choose. 25% every test group would choose the drugs and just do them to they die. Herds of elephants when they would come across fermented fruit tress. Roughly 25% would just stay there and Injest til they die. I always hated the “disease” thought of it. I thought like the guy above. Just be mentally strong man it can’t be that hard. But actually researching the science of it. Idk. Makes me wander. Like when I was younger I could party for days. Do all kinds of different drugs and then just get my shit straight. Focus and show up for races and never think about it. But there was always a few guys that once they started. They never stopped
@@zacharyradford5552 No its not simple
Rip 555 Trevor Donnie I used to ride with him back in the early-mid 2000s and dated his sister he was a special talent that was ruined by Drugs. Kenny Regal was also a great rider from my area I grew up with like a brother to me his older sister and brother both ended up racing professionally but when we where younger kenny was better than both of them but was getting serious injuries as a kid on a 65 and 85 stopped riding before he ever made it to the big bikes but just messing around on a private track he was still the fastest. Kenny ended up addicted to drugs and is currently in prison in Northern Michigan
thank you for talking about this is so sad and big pharma new about it giving us tons of opiates
Anxiety and depression are big factors. It's easier to be fucked up and feel nothing than to suffer with yourself and your demons. It's not as easy as 'just stop' or 'don't do it.'
It has a lot to do with past trauma also , pain killers kill all pain mental and physical. First time took them my anxiety and demons quieted for a few hours . That was the start . 20 years later I’ve made it past but had a few dark years .
I was going to motorcycle mechanics school in Florida at that same time. I can tell you for a fact that stuff hit hard and for whatever reason seemed like so many ppl were doing it. Me and my brother never use to take anything even like cough syrup or whatever and we both got hurt and were put on pain meds and boom! All it took we both went down deep dark hole! Some how by grace of god we both made it out unlike a lot of ppl and we both joke about it now like what happened and how lol we didn’t wake up one morning and say hey think I wanna be addicted to pain pills! The doctors were pushing that stuff like unbelievable it was insane! I just don’t think there was any warnings and I honestly think it was pushed from high high up for some stupid reason.
Pharma pushed it for BIG MONEY
It was the time period, not the sport
Millions of people went down
It's well documented
Read the book Empire of Pain if you'd like to understand the family behind it 👍
2:03 who passed away? Trevor who?
Damn that’s crazy I raced amateur races with Trevor Donnie #5 in district 14 I didn’t know he passed away. Davi was hanging with him at log road mx
38 Surgeries? Damn, you picked the toughest sport for the bod. Some guys go nuts over vicodin etc. I hated it every time, only 7. I picked it as well.
When i broke my leg being on painkillers was fine just coming off sucked but i knew that going into it. So i can see how it can get out of control pretty quick.
*Because of injuries I have strong **#opiates**. So I can understand not wanting to go through **#withdrawals** but I do not understand chasing the high*
Everyone is around and doing great, except Tyler Evans. RIP One Punch.
Need Stroupe on let him talk about it I loved watching Austin at muddy creek back on Yamahas and early kawis get him on bro
Ha Izzi she still owes me money that little kidnapper..
Good to have Millsaps on 🙏🔥
please understand that the withdrawal is so terrible from opiates that it’s beyond what you can imagine
you become dependent don’t get me wrong some people want to be high but many do not it’s important we educate people about chemical dependence
Its not *that bad. Yes its terrible... But people who run from it for years have it built up in their heads to be the absolute worst thing possible. Its like a really bad flu out both ends for less than a week. Its the rest of the life thats actually more difficult.
People who blame people for being weak because they struggle getting off opioids have never had a withdrawal
I have had 16 major ortho surgeries and I see the addiction part but the withdrawal detox isn’t that bad
2009 -2010 2nd full race bike build with matching back up rode with hetrick rastrelli when they was 15.
Speaking from experience of addiction. Most riders that are spun out, is due to injuries/surgery. Having medical professionals give them pain pills and say its okay to take it. By the time the prescription is gone and the injury is healed most people get violently sick if they don't take more. And to address the "people just like to be fucked up" it can be true but in most cases a true drug addict is going to us in order to not be sick rather than use to get fucked up.
Ok, last comment. I think it's hard for certain mindsets to understand, but also if you lack a background. A lot of people have a lot of trauma, for whatever reason, and they get on opiates for a real reason, and it masks the emotional pains too and you weren't prepared for it. It enables you to suddenly achieve more, while on the opiates, and you realize what is happening but don't know a solution. I had to be on opiates for a liver transplant for PSC (not alcohol, diagnosed at 20 in the USAF), and it was really hard to come off of them without dealing with the other stuff.
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Here's another name to throw in the mix in this conversation -Ryan Mills.
Raced in the same district, watched him growing up. One fast talented kid he was. There was quite a handful fast dudes that came from D34.
D34, yup. Haven't heard of Mills in a while, last heard busted for home invasion. Anyone know what hes up to? Last saw him Calverton years ago, kinda heavy but still fast af.
@@mxkidd38 I raced D34 for years as well. I knew Ryan quite well on and off the track. I actually bought his 2001 CR250 from him right before he turned pro and moved to California. Was so awesome when he made it. I knew it wasnt good though when I saw who he was hanging with. Had a few good rides but never reached his potential. Then he disappeared. He resurfaced in prison years later. He told me his story of how he ended up in prison. Pretty sad. I just heard the other day that he showed up at a local race last year on a borrowed bike with borrowed gear. Waxed everyone and hasn't been seen since.
It's not too much work if what your trying to numb out is way worse. Addiction sucks. You just don't know what someone has been thru. Might seem stupid but everyone's pain is different no matter how slight we might see it as.
What you guys dont grasp is the opioids actually change the chemistry of your brain when a person uses them even as prescribed for like as little as 2 weeks. Do you really think this crap would have wreaked the havoc on the world that it did if ppl could just tell themselves man i gotta stop this for my own good. And i get it, Davi just isnt educated on the subject enough, lots of ppl who express their opinion about it arent. But theres a lot more going on in opioid addiction than just man i like the way this feels. I battled pills and heroine for 15 years, i was married with a newborn when i got hurt and it grabbed me. Im a bodybuilder, i dont have the "personality" for it either but this stuff doesn't discriminate...ive been in rehab with drs, lawyers, state troopers, men, women, children, ppl from all walks of life. Be thankful this beast never got a hold of you....
Couldn’t have said it better myself
100% agree. When I was in rehab, there were people that were DRs and lawyers in there, as well as people off the streets. Addiction doesn’t discriminate. The whole “I don’t get it, I never had a problem,addicts are just weak” is such a bullshit mindset. Battling addiction is one of the hardest things I’ve dealt with in life.
Hey guys I was addicted for 25 years and now a year and a half clean it's tuff but can't be caught by police again or lose my license for 4 years im addicted to my dirt bikes now im 43
I hate to say this but i think someone in a family always ends up being that "example" for others and its helpful for some but very unfortunate for others. Some of my family members have chose that path and addiction and have stranded my 87 year old grandmother with a 10 year old to raise. Its eye opening and frustrating. But addiction is a hard task to understand and overcome
To say that people who struggle with opiate addiction are mentally weak is completely untrue. Some addicts are the strongest mentally and physically you’ll ever come across. Problem is (and I found out the hard way) Opiates can take down even the strongest. Spent the better part of my life on and off of Pills/Hero-in and it is t because im weak. It’s so damn powerful when you can feel that good. It isn’t the terrible withdrawals either, been through those many times only to get right back on. Say what you will but unless those opiates hit you like they do “us” you’ll only ever believe it’s because they didn’t have the “strength” to put it down.
Agreed
Yeah, there’s something to that because I have never liked pills or drinking. It never made me feel good after surgeries. I always just felt weird. I always wanted to get off as quick as I possibly could cause I didn’t feel right.
Agree man. There’s a lot of condescending comments on here portraying “well I’ve never had a problem with that, so those people must be weak” the truth is much different.
A great book on the subject is Crash and Burn by Artie Lange.
I remember racing in my early years on 80s and maybe nicos upbringing messed him up. I remember every time I'd see him and his dad at the track. His dad screaming at the top of his lungs cause he wasn't in first place. I know there's alot of money invested into racing but damn.
Little bit ignorant from both parties here, love this podcast though so much. But for those struggling with substance abuse, it’s not as easy as just fucking getting over it. Davey is blessed to be one of the people that doesn’t have the heartache of having one mistake run the rest of their lives. I think it’s something stupid like 90% of addicts never recover. That’s not a decision at that point. It’s a predisposed genetic disposition towards dependancy on drugs that not everyone has. I’ve wanted to put the booze down since I was 19. Fast forward to 36, on a Thursday, and here I am. Same as it ever was. All I can see is the things I’ve missed out on, the ability I have, and that the booze and drugs have kept me from, the love I have. And I can’t live without a day or two not being on the piss.
What’s crazy about drugs, is you have no idea for the most part who or will do drugs, until you do it with them, then it’s like it was always there.
And the reason why this guy doesn’t really know and I applaud him for not hanging out with the wrong crowd. He went home when others went out.
People don't understand how bad the painkiller addiction is, it grabs you and it's hard to stop. Taking painkillers make you feel great but to some people they get sick to their stomach and want to sleep but some people it make them feel wonderful and that's why it's hard to stop and if they stop they get super sick and can't sleep. Everyone who is addicted i gaurentee want to stop and if they could stop by the snap of a finger they would but they can't it grabs a hold of you and won't let go. Painkiller addiction is very evil.
Davy is awesome.
That “No.” … everyone felt that 😞.
If you felt the withdrawals for 1 day then you would "get it"..he's over here acting like it's easy. Yo have no idea my guy
@@zacharyradford5552it’s simple not easy. Some peoples bodies react differently to drugs,especially opioids and they can reach out and grab you quick.
dude serious please don’t post stuff like this out of respect for people and their families that have been thru hell you honestly do not understand what’s it’s really like if your making a comment like this
Except that’s not a lot of people’s problems. They miss the feeling of being fucked beyond belief. Addiction comes from mental weakness because you can’t cope with something. You you truly mentally don’t wanna do something then you won’t.
Your right. It’s hell bro. It takes many back and forths
Best not going down that road then it won’t happen we lose so many people to all sort of addiction
Never peeling stones for the crashes
Coming down from the high of weed makes me feel depressive feelings,its like i crave to not go back its a sucky feeling i don't do it now.
You’ve got to blame the doctors that’s prescribing it, as a doctor you’ve got to explain the side effects of these drugs and think about the long term damage that it’ll do to you. I raced back in the day with Partridge, Costella, Stewart, Grant all of these guys back in the early 2000 it wasn’t until after racing I had neck surgery and got addicted to medication, withdrawals sucked but I was willing to kick it and have stayed away and been clean for 16yrs. I look back and miss the days of driving to Ponca, Loretta’s, etc I feel back bad for these guys that are battling addiction.
In Aus you need a prescription to get endone. The pharmacist only prescribe 10 at a time. Hopefully this happens in the states
We went too far the other way though. I can't even get panadine forte anymore. Though I am noted as a drug seeker because I had back issues and asked for more than panadol and that I couldn't have endone because 12 years earlier it made me aggressive in the 3 days I took it. I tried to tell them I've never had anything but that and another for only 7 days in my life and they just thought I was a junkie. I then tried to get 20 years of my files from my old doctor and they'd moved office and destroyed my files because I hadn't been there in 5 years. So now I'm apparently just a drug seeking junkie lol and everytime I go in with an injury I have to tell them that I don't want any drugs for them to take my injury seriously. Its a fkn joke.
Trevor Donnie the tripple nickle was my trainer in 2010 so sad to hear that happend to him
Huge shout out to Will Hahn for getting addicted to pain pills and being able to say fuck this and suffer through the withdrawals and quit. I wish he spoke out about it more to show these other guys it’s possible. I know so many guys that I grew up racing with that destroyed their lives on that shit
We went hard in Temecula
But what was in Davi Jones locker 2015? Gotta remember how many injuries Moto guys endure, plus big money machine pushing us to ride when we’re not fully healed and hurting still. The sport isn’t for everybody, you gotta be effed in the head to be successful in Moto and make it out in one piece
The old saying is decide what your hobby and obsession will be before the ( hobby addiction ) decides to choose you ⚠️
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I hate that he says "you let a pill ruin your life" a Dr gave it to us and told us weed be back racing in 9 months but it really took 10 years. 3 years clean and I'm back ripping like I was a teenager I didn't let anything ruin my life just a few years. Though I do understand how he cant understand the same way.
There is no high like riding a bike fast and so meny of us are chasing whatever high we can get that still doesn't come close to smashed some big doubles or massive step up-down hills flying
He went through it. Yes the withdrawals are hell. You can only have an idea if you went through it
The difference between that era and this era is Drs were giving those guys 90 plus percocets or Oxy’s a month and nowadays if you have surgery they might give you 7-10 pills which isn’t enough to get addicted on.
I’m shocked they didn’t bring up JLaw def the best rider ever with addiction issues and he was in davi”s era
It’s not a generational thing. It’s very much still happening. I think people are just so aware of it now that the people around them, and the doctors as well at the patient are very careful at the highest level of competitors. Also I think with all the technology in the medical industry injuries are healing a lot faster than they used to whick means doctors don’t have to keep the patients on pain killers as long. I know/know of people of almost all ages from about 12 years and up who have had issues with it.
I like that DM wants to understand addiction, but he never will.
TBH, never been a huge fan of Milsaps, but my view after this is changing that. With that said, I never put the two together, but then again, I do a few concussions under my belt. I did used to ride with a couple of guys, were either popping pain killers or on meth. Really such a shame. Such talent lost. Glad I never did anything more than OTC for my broken ankles or F'd up knees. I'd prob be in the same boat.
I was running 30s 1st year A after sandbagging 6months of trophy to show for it. Non wins count a hand run it again. Sun up to sun down
8:32 to 8:45 is the biggest reason people get addicted to change their perception on reality while chasing that high
It was sad to see so many gifted ppl basically throw talent and gifts away without a second thought! I honestly still can’t think of why I choose to go down that path. Like I said me and my brother both try to figure out how or why we did and neither one of us have an answer. I still look back and can’t believe it. I don’t drink or anything now Just torch a head of lettuce before I go to bed but never during day only to go to bed lol just terrible those two had so much talent and such a bright future I hate seeing what happened
I got caught on the opioids for a while, was able to get off them, stuck with the white for a long time, from being homeless to a home owner and now completely sober for 90 days. Always pull for Nico hood he can figure it out.
The tune from video game 😂❤✌️
It's not that simple. Kinda like a clutch for the average rider. It's a slow degradation. U wake up and boom its over. Ur an addict. It starts with 1 beer on a Friday then before u know it, u can't stop.
Underrated comment. This is totally true. The line of “this isn’t a problem” to “now I can’t stop” happens very quickly.
Is there drug testing for PED's in SX?
Yes
Want to feel an opioid high? Here’s my formula - 1. Do something that you feel is dangerous, 2. Which takes skill to pull off = feeling of elation like Vicodin. I would prescribe a 125 and a freshly groomed track. I’ve had the pills and a good day of riding is way better. Of course riding for fun and riding hurt as your job/ income are two different things.
Riding doesn’t feel anything like vicodin. If you take vocodin you’ll feel and be trapped. Riding a dirt bike you’ll feel and be free! 🙃
What about Bobby bonds guys
What’s up with him these days?
I partied stupid hard through the first 25 years of my life doin everything we could get from weed to coke but opioids are a whole diff monster once you are physically dependent. Nothing ever bothered me until I tried stopping opiates. I’m glad you guys don’t understand it and hopefully you never do.
I grew up riding and then racing through high school, ended up getting landed on. Broke my wrist and fractured my skull healed from that and one of my first races back got t boned in a corner and shattered my phemur and dislocated my knee, I broke each wrist a few times each and coller bone and other smaller injuries before I finally stopped riding at 16 and got into cars. Through all my injuries and surgeries I never really took the pain meds they gave me didn't care for how I felt on them. But just out of high school about a year my brother came by with a oxy 80 I asked to try so snorted a bit of that and washed it down with a beer and thought f✓©k this feels good, over the next year or two I tried it a few more times then it was easy to get them all of sudden make a cal and 10 minutes later I had them in my hand, I didn't even know what dope sickness was or that you had withdrawals till out of the blue I couldn't get any and man did I feel like crap hot and cold sweats, restless legs flopping like a fish if trying to sleep, be lucky to get 15 min of sleep, throwing up, lucky to make it to bathroom before crapping pants. Basically hoping to just die at times felt like you were going to die you feel so bad. The few days later dude calls and has more and with in seconds/ minutes it all goes away and feel fine again. It's crazy how snorting or smoking shooting up something can make all the crap go away like that. Did those for years then switched to heroin started doing meth as well in and out of jail for years ended up in prison for a few years and haven't been back or in jail since that but I started using the day I got out and it's been 8 years now and had very few days I have not used since had a job for 5 years was the lead there doing real good got off parole after 10 years found a way to be high and function and worked out except now I'm sick of being sick and tired but all I remember is being high don't know how to live or get sober saying I could get passed the week - two sickness I don't know how to live and be sober. As much as I hate using and want to be clean I don't know if it's possible or that it will last but I tell you one thing nothing I want more then to be sober if I could go back to the first time I used and say no I would do that in a heartbeat cause that day I threw my life away and had no clue I was throwing it away and how sh,)/ty my life was about to be i dobt chokse tl be a addict it just haplend no one woild choose this life. If you know someone addicted to anything help them don't treat them like they are bad people they are just lost and not sure how to fix the problem .
Thanks for sharing your story. I hope it helps people just to say no the first time. It sounds like its hard to beat I understand addiction just not this type. I hope someone can share a plan with you to get you sober and not in pain. Stay strong and reach out for help my brother. Im rooting for you
We care brother. Take care of yourself.
Who are the talking about?
As an extreme sport participant I think we’re more likely to get extremely addicted to drugs.
Dr’s at that time were incentivized and pushing Oxy hard, and that got alot of these guys hooked and they turned to street heroine once they couldn’t afford or get more from Dr.
It's because it's was the era of push oxys for any little thing. Sprained pinky? Here's 90 oxycotton.than the withdrawals 😩😫 it's impossible I'm still going through issues from those years . Nowadays u break your back they give you Tylenol u can't even get em now. Now this is the Fetty era God knows what's next just glad I got out before the Fetty hit the streets
love your honestly… keep the faith brother i’m praying for you 🙏♥️