Thank you for this, it’s extremely useful - Im going to be going for the XAVC-SI - What did you mean when you said "You notice you are going to notice the quality difference is in like moving objects..."???
The way I understand it is the SI video codec takes every individual frame as a high quality still and puts it together for a video. Other codecs skip a few frames and use ai to stitch together the missing frames so you would have a higher quality video with SI. More information taken with SI codec. Hope that helps my man and thanks for your support
Glad it helped Duncan and thanks for stopping by the channel! This video has been underperforming for me so I wasn't sure there was a need for it, but knowing it helped ya makes it worth it 😊 ✌️
Nice Vidéo, we are moving from a GH5II to an A7IV for making our video, and indeed the color on the A7IV looks amazing. Even the normal picture profile colors are amazing. And this stuff is a low light beast. Keep up the good work.
If you are using V30 SD CARDS because you are on a budget, to get 4:2:2 10-bit at 60fps you MUST use XAVC HS (even though it's harder to edit) because of the write speeds. BUT you DO have the option if you need it. 4k 24 & 30 are fine to use the HAVC S codec You NEED v90 or CF Express for XAVC SI
Hello! Great video! One thing I was confused about was does XAVC-HS take up less space on your sd card but is more taxing on your computer than XAVC-S which is less taxing on your computer but takes up more space on your sd card? Thanks!
Hey Espirito, thanks for stopping by the channel! Yes HS taxes up less space because it is highly compressed, because of this it will be harder on your system to edit. S takes up more space but is easier to edit :) hope this helps
So editing XAVC-HS is harder to edit due to it being compressed? Or do you mean it’s harder to edit due to one’s computer having to work harder? Sorry for the silly questions ! Just wondering cause I have the new Mac with M1 chip and wondering if that would be good enough for that format! Thanks!
@@godssouljah No worries I'm here to help! Fist your New M1 depending on which one you got should handle HS without problems. Secondly, YES, heavily compressed files that take less sd card space need to be "unpacked" by your computer when you import so your computer is doing more work than if it is a RAW large file.
When I switch to XAVC-HS the camera gives me the same amount of record time as XAVCS....but I thought it takes less space? I'm confused. Everything else is the same (4:2:2, 10 bit, 24p)
@@MattyDCCollins Sure please let me know what you find! I asked on Reddit & apparently XAVC-HS at 50Mbps is equivalent in quality to XAVCS at 100Mbps. So that’s where you can get more record time
Haven't messed around with the Sony Transfer app much but I would assume you'd have to upload to computer first and change the file type first 🤔 another option you could try is a usb c memory card reader (or iphone) and see if they are recognized and will play
You can only get 600M 4:2:2 10 bit with the S-I codec and CF card - best you can do with XAVC S is 200M at 60fps with a v90 I even think v30 will work for that
FYI, 8-bit vs 10-bit makes a BIG difference whereas 422 vs 420 is virtually the same as far as quality and editing color. 420 is much easier on your computer to edit. I shoot 420 10-bit exclusively.
I would still shoot 10 bit because it's too big of a difference and buy an editor, either final cut or davinci - you're going to need to invest at some point anyways, why not now?
Hey TimBo, I'll give you an estimate based of the XAVC-S that I usually record with - 10 bit 4:2:2 4k 24fps is about 1gb of data per minute of video. SI might take a little more space but not a ton more so I would say with a 128gb card you should be able to conservatively record about 1 hour of footage.
@@MattyDCCollins thank you ! It’s helpful. Lastly - I’m in the UK, PAL, I see that some H.265 options are not available, is there a work around this other than switching to NTSC? Sorry to be a pain! Thanks man!
What? Where is the XAVC HS 4k 30p setting? Is Sony joking? WOW. That is a deal breaker for me. I have an intel i5-12500 cpu with built in UHD Graphics 770 that does hardware decoding in real time in Premiere's timeline for HEVC. So it has silky smooth HEVC timeline performance in real time. I have no need to shoot h.264 anymore and waste space. By using HEVC, over time this would pay for the camera instead of having to buy more hard drives. But I shoot at 30p. Deal breaker. I think Sony doesn't want to pay the h.265 license fee.
Very interesting point Jeff, and something I just learned thanks for that. You're very right about the savings associated with storage and shooting in h.265. That sucks it's unable to. What's your work around? Which camera are you looking at now?
@@MattyDCCollins I guess my workaround so far is to hold off buying a sony camera at the moment. I need to do more camera looking. I don't think canon has a low bitrate 10bit hevc setting. But I would prefer a Sony camera. I still only have a Panasonic G7 and GX85. I got them years ago for the unlimited 4k no time limit. I guess the only workaround would be shooting 4k at a very high bitrate and trancoding later to a much lower hevc bitrate. But I don't like the idea of a 2nd generation copy :) Plus I would need a huge memory card. BTW, having that Intel onboard graphics is so amazing with the timeline performance in Premiere. It is fun watching the Intel CPU along with it's onboard GPU and the NVIDIA GTX 1060 all work together at the same time in Task Manager :) I wish I had this 12th gen CPU years ago. It would have save me thousands of hours. Thanks for the reply.
Awesome! Thanks, just what i needed! really clear and useful, keep up the great content.
Thanks Seet, new one coming soon on the S&Q Mode and specifically how to shoot 120fps 4:2:2 10 bit :)
@@MattyDCCollins Damn, you must be a mind reader!!! Can't wait.
u really made it easy to understand. thanks!
Glad it helped!
Your hopes about goals of this video were all accomplished. Thanks for sharing!
Glad I could provide some value Tomas 😊
Very helpful mate! Thanks for this video
happy to hear Ivan!
Matty THANK YOU! I have been trying to figure out why Im having so much trouble editing my videos and this helped a ton
Happy I was able to help Harry! Good luck with your quality and colours going forward 👊
Thanks a lot for making this, very helpful
I appreciate you Garett and happy it helped
Thanks for this, new to video and this helps
I appreciate you saying that DG - keeps me motivated!
Most informative. Keep up the great work.
Thank you Meng, I appreciate you, will keep the content coming 👊 thanks for your comment 🍻
I don’t know if this is a silly question, but you can film 1080 video in 10bit? Or 10bit it’s only for 4k???
not a silly question lucas, yes you can film 1080p in 10bit
@@MattyDCCollins thanks you!!!
Thank you for this, it’s extremely useful - Im going to be going for the XAVC-SI - What did you mean when you said "You notice you are going to notice the quality difference is in like moving objects..."???
The way I understand it is the SI video codec takes every individual frame as a high quality still and puts it together for a video. Other codecs skip a few frames and use ai to stitch together the missing frames so you would have a higher quality video with SI. More information taken with SI codec. Hope that helps my man and thanks for your support
@@MattyDCCollins that’s awesome thank you Matty - it convinces me more to use it now 😎
Intraframe vs long gop
man. this is exactly the video/info I was after!
Glad it helped Duncan and thanks for stopping by the channel! This video has been underperforming for me so I wasn't sure there was a need for it, but knowing it helped ya makes it worth it 😊 ✌️
Thank you so much, going to buy a7iv after this video, awesome video bro. Good luck💪🏼
That's amazing Masni! You will not regret it, having a blast with it so far 😊
great vid. What white balance are you using?
I appreciate you man, 5500k which is what my lights put out.
Nice Vidéo, we are moving from a GH5II to an A7IV for making our video, and indeed the color on the A7IV looks amazing. Even the normal picture profile colors are amazing. And this stuff is a low light beast. Keep up the good work.
low light beast for sure man... second native ISO being 3200 helps so much!
@@MattyDCCollins i shoot à vidéo in a bar ( basic picture profile ) at iso 6400 and the results were amazing 🤩
If you shoot in 60p in any codec will it be cropped?
4k 60 fps will always have a crop in every codec but not 1080p 60 fps
All are h.264 except XAVC HS which is H 265 right? Thank you for a great video
I believe that is correct yes!
and thanks for the support man!
Bro make a video to how to expose s log 3
I'll add it to my list :)
Thanks for the tips!
Happy it helped a bit Brandon! Thanks for supporting the channel 💫
If you are using V30 SD CARDS because you are on a budget, to get 4:2:2 10-bit at 60fps you MUST use XAVC HS (even though it's harder to edit) because of the write speeds. BUT you DO have the option if you need it.
4k 24 & 30 are fine to use the HAVC S codec
You NEED v90 or CF Express for XAVC SI
Grt video, subscribed! And re V60 cards?
“Harder” to edit. You mean that computer wont playback on speed? What proxy do you use for this codec? Or what workflow do you recommend?
Hello! Great video! One thing I was confused about was does XAVC-HS take up less space on your sd card but is more taxing on your computer than XAVC-S which is less taxing on your computer but takes up more space on your sd card? Thanks!
Hey Espirito, thanks for stopping by the channel! Yes HS taxes up less space because it is highly compressed, because of this it will be harder on your system to edit. S takes up more space but is easier to edit :) hope this helps
@@MattyDCCollins thanks for replying and answering my question!
So editing XAVC-HS is harder to edit due to it being compressed? Or do you mean it’s harder to edit due to one’s computer having to work harder? Sorry for the silly questions ! Just wondering cause I have the new Mac with M1 chip and wondering if that would be good enough for that format! Thanks!
@@godssouljah No worries I'm here to help! Fist your New M1 depending on which one you got should handle HS without problems. Secondly, YES, heavily compressed files that take less sd card space need to be "unpacked" by your computer when you import so your computer is doing more work than if it is a RAW large file.
@@MattyDCCollins great got it! Thank you so much!
what type of card you do use V30 ,V60 or V90?
I have a v30 for photo only slot and use a v90 in the second memory card slot dedicated for shooting video :)
Thank you
Got you 👊
great video
I appreciate you Trevor!
When I switch to XAVC-HS the camera gives me the same amount of record time as XAVCS....but I thought it takes less space? I'm confused. Everything else is the same (4:2:2, 10 bit, 24p)
hmm that is strange, let me have a look on mine and get back to you 😊
@@MattyDCCollins Sure please let me know what you find! I asked on Reddit & apparently XAVC-HS at 50Mbps is equivalent in quality to XAVCS at 100Mbps. So that’s where you can get more record time
How can I transfer videos XAVC S to my iPhone?
Haven't messed around with the Sony Transfer app much but I would assume you'd have to upload to computer first and change the file type first 🤔 another option you could try is a usb c memory card reader (or iphone) and see if they are recognized and will play
Can I shoot XAVC S 4K - 600M 4:2:2 10bit on a Sandisk Extreme pro SD card? it's an uhs-1 SD card
You can only get 600M 4:2:2 10 bit with the S-I codec and CF card - best you can do with XAVC S is 200M at 60fps with a v90 I even think v30 will work for that
FYI, 8-bit vs 10-bit makes a BIG difference whereas 422 vs 420 is virtually the same as far as quality and editing color. 420 is much easier on your computer to edit. I shoot 420 10-bit exclusively.
Nice Alan! That's big news, maybe I won't have to work with a proxy setup going forward. Gonna give it a try 💫
free davinci resolve dont accept 10 bits, best configuration for color grading in 8 bits with sony a7iv?
I would still shoot 10 bit because it's too big of a difference and buy an editor, either final cut or davinci - you're going to need to invest at some point anyways, why not now?
hey ! if I shoot in the top codec on a7iv with a v90 128gb card, how much 4k footage can I expect to get in hours/ mins? is there a way to estimate ?
Hey TimBo, I'll give you an estimate based of the XAVC-S that I usually record with - 10 bit 4:2:2 4k 24fps is about 1gb of data per minute of video. SI might take a little more space but not a ton more so I would say with a 128gb card you should be able to conservatively record about 1 hour of footage.
@@MattyDCCollins thank you ! It’s helpful. Lastly - I’m in the UK, PAL, I see that some H.265 options are not available, is there a work around this other than switching to NTSC? Sorry to be a pain! Thanks man!
Just curious then, is XAVC-HS better image quality than the XAVC - S?
NO to noticeably BETTER image quality, YES they are comparable. YES to smaller file sizes though :) I don't like cause it's hard to edit 😢
can someone tell me if you can get 12bit RAW on atomos NINJA V with the sony a7iv?
Hey drumble I’ve done a lot of research on the a7iv and never heard of external recording 12 bit but if you hear otherwise please keep me posted 👊
What? Where is the XAVC HS 4k 30p setting? Is Sony joking? WOW. That is a deal breaker for me. I have an intel i5-12500 cpu with built in UHD Graphics 770 that does hardware decoding in real time in Premiere's timeline for HEVC. So it has silky smooth HEVC timeline performance in real time. I have no need to shoot h.264 anymore and waste space. By using HEVC, over time this would pay for the camera instead of having to buy more hard drives. But I shoot at 30p. Deal breaker. I think Sony doesn't want to pay the h.265 license fee.
Very interesting point Jeff, and something I just learned thanks for that. You're very right about the savings associated with storage and shooting in h.265. That sucks it's unable to. What's your work around? Which camera are you looking at now?
@@MattyDCCollins I guess my workaround so far is to hold off buying a sony camera at the moment. I need to do more camera looking. I don't think canon has a low bitrate 10bit hevc setting. But I would prefer a Sony camera. I still only have a Panasonic G7 and GX85. I got them years ago for the unlimited 4k no time limit. I guess the only workaround would be shooting 4k at a very high bitrate and trancoding later to a much lower hevc bitrate. But I don't like the idea of a 2nd generation copy :) Plus I would need a huge memory card. BTW, having that Intel onboard graphics is so amazing with the timeline performance in Premiere. It is fun watching the Intel CPU along with it's onboard GPU and the NVIDIA GTX 1060 all work together at the same time in Task Manager :) I wish I had this 12th gen CPU years ago. It would have save me thousands of hours. Thanks for the reply.