Syntiche reminds me of those young girls who really want to appear older but when they speak it just reveals how young their thinking and logic is. Mawa penza. This episode was funny I can’t lie. Best comment was from champion biso nioso toza ba hyprocrite 😂😂😂😂
At least Gladys is married and with 3 children I don’t understand how syntche has not experienced this but has so much chat for Gladys ? the one with the most balanced views is Dymund I really like the way she presents an issue. Classy but standing her ground. Respect is important in our community even if you right.
Well we all her husband is a certified simp😂 We also know that man she’s with he’s not what she wish for few years back but she got in desperate mode so had to tolerate him. Finally we also know Zero HIGH VALUE MEN will ever date 99.9% of your types😊 Gladys type of women will get Gladys type of men giving birth to Gladys type of kids etc Girls like y’all will AWAYS end up with men your tolerating rather than what you wished n hoped for because YOU’RE LOW VALUE N THAT STINKS‼️
3. The way Syntiche researched about kids from single parent households, should be the same way she researches about kids from broken homes . Because it can be as damaging !!!
Le malentendu au début me fait de la peine. Jeffrey a simplement dit que la manière dont Kanga motema à été introduit s’est transformée en « endurer » et endurer en question dans le dicton veut dire « supporter avec patience ce qui est dur ou pénible » c’était pourtant simple à comprendre 😭
another thing is our mothers gave us the right advice but they never said exactly the limits of kokanga motema so many of us thought everything is acceptable. I believe that it means have a big heart towards each others different sides because we all come from different families and background. It dont mean accept cheating, abuse or disrespect.
It means exactly what you said at the end and that's what most mums did. Having big heart means zala motema monene and not kanga motema which on the other hand means endure.
Unfortunately for many Congolese women of that generation "Kanga Motema" means exactly what you described in your last sentence. Accepting some cheating or disrespect, maybe not abuse if it's "too much."
2. Syntiche sounded very naive in this episode, talking about “i can never marry a cheater”. As Dymund said, people chaaaange. You might marry a non cheater but life circumstances later on turn him into an abuser .
Syntyche sorry but u don't think bout your kids because their image of the marriage will be biased .. and they will reproduce the same schema on their relationship and respective marriages..
Gonna have to let people speak and land their points without interruption otherwise it’s just gonna be a battle of who can speak the loudest! - great topic, wish it was discussed more eloquently.
Synthia stop being disrespectful 😢 towards Gladys , Give your opinion but stop using Gladys name in rude and childish way , Cynthia and Bobbet are kind of rude
Yeah you are totally right I don’t find her view’s balanced or mature even the way she talks about black issues on tik tok is even disrespectful and showing her age.
@@missikalo On your previous episodes dear rewatch them , your communication style when you interact with the others it comes out Rude but I believe you can work on that
Sorry u feel that way but I know I communicated very well, I didn't interrupt anyone talking and I was assertive with my answers and behaviours that I showed respect for others opinion and I didn't talk about anyone in a rude way. So I know I don't need to work on any of my communication skills ,if so I would have seen many complaining how I communicated. Congolese ppl always come up with their own diagnosis on ppl to the point they even advicing u, but u can work on it. Seriously
Le sujet était très intéressant. Mais il ya eu beaucoup de manque de respect envers Jeffrey.. Essayez d'être plus civilisés la prochaine fois ds vos échanges
Syntyche 0 0 mama - ozo attaké Gladys pourquoi ? La jalousie c’est moche einn ?? Tu n’ai pas marier ni d’enfants retourne sur les band d’école ba tangisa yo au lieu de dire n’importe quoi.. L’humilité précède la gloire ko bosana té avant de donné des conseils que tu ne sais rien dessus.. toi qui disais l’age moyen de mariage c’est 30ans ans au Congo 19ans et yo oza mwasi ya bien.. il est ou ton mari ? 😂 va dormir
Everyone missed what synthia said and it’s amazing! She’s talking about keeping a family which creates a community and a community creates a nation. I like her!
Yes we must protect the family at all costs. Family is Gods first institution and if we destroy that we destroy society, which we are witnessing right now. It’s selfish to leave just because your ‘unhappy’ God never promised a happy life let alone a happy marriage. we need let go of this Disney fantasy of marriage x
You can be physically present , but still absent many parents especially guys yes they are present at home , but they are absent They do not communicate with their kids they do assist their children with homework for example some don’t push their children to explore all revenue of career I am sorry , but if his out here cheating is it really present as a dad ? His already absent into being a good lover this Synthic girl logic is very damaging
I don't know Jeffrey but I found that Frankos rudely interrupted him while he was trying to make a point, on the time that was given to him. Mr. Frankos then went on a rampage, stamping his opinion like the only rule -whilst shushing his fellow man. That was not okay. Still a fan of Mr Thsim's though 😊
@@joelleramazani5619I agree the two others sort of attacked him. I don’t think he’s aggressive at all. He reacted because of the way he was rudely attacked.
I’m sorry but I don’t think Syntiche understands that single parents and absent parents aren’t the same thing. So many people grew up with both parents but because of this same scenario, one parent is very much absent while still living in the house. She also said I don’t want my kids to “not have a father” I’m sorry but is the father dead?? Do the parents need to live in one house in order to be present parents? Please let’s kill that mindset because that’s exactly the definition of Kanga mutema we are trying to erase in the culture. Lastly, it’s not always about “I would never be in that position” as a Christian you know never to say that, not every cheater in marriage was a cheater when single, good people can fall or make dumb decisions too. Ps the men need to apologize to yaya Jefferey😂 it’s like you guys were projecting Syntiche’s philosophy on him💀
Jeffrey is absolutely right, he didn't say anything wrong. He just explained the words correctly, the meaning and the details in fact. he said everything. in fact the guy in red is not coherent... next time he has to manage himself in certain comments he is a little distant in the subject. 🙂
Svp vraiment, you guys need to work on respecting other people opinions, without shouting and disrespecting the person. The idea of the emission is to help the community, but lemme tell you that you will not help anyone if you can’t even help each other. I feel like now people are just talking because they have to and out of emotions. I like Syntiche because she speaks with fact, which is actually educating. The reaction of tonton Francos towards Jeffrey opinion in the beginning was very disrespectful. Champion did not bring anything in the discussion sorry, apart from aggression. Big love to Karolina and Diamund who were very respectful. It was very hard to finish the emission with all the shouting and interruptions. Listen to understand and not to argue.
Ya Frankos "kanga motema" en Français ce n'est pas seulement la patience. C'est supporter, endurer avec fermeté. On patiente et on accepte d'endurer des choses difficile. But Also, please when you guys are sharing your opinions, try to respect other people's opinions as well. Papa boxeur alobi batu balobaka Français Baza mayele te, ba zoba. Which was a bit rude and inappropriate.
I'm still asking myself why they thought Syntiche is fit to be a panelist. She is so inexperienced and fresh in the market of life experience based on her answers. She should be back here once she's got more life experience or faced a few challenges in life. The BS she keeps of telling us here is unbelievable 😂😂😂
you guys only mention Syntche age and married status because you know she is speaking truth and you have nothing else to counter her. why do you need to be ‘experienced’ in life to understand the BASIC principle that marriage requires sacrifice? boza na sense tse?
It’s her opinion and she is entitled to it because she’s representing a group of ppl who think like her. However her lack of experience still shows. But it is needed.
Sintiche has valid points but she’s very young and lacks experience. Families are the backbone of communities! Period! Maman Dymund, Kitoko. In general it was a great discussion, well done! 👏🏾 Nissy Vraiment always Kitoko.
Aujourd’hui Jeffrey a pas mal parlé. C’est vrai que on a collé une étiquette du kanga motema comme ci c’était mauvais mais je crois que sa façon de s’exprimer agace les autres 😅. Il doit parler plus posément pour pas qu’on se braque contre lui
Le sportif là a été irrespectueux parlant de Kizengi po moninga pesi définition ya expression en question. Que vous soyez d'accord ou pas de la définition, il a eu un bon réflexe de vouloir comprendre l'expression. Na yebi te soki eza ba effets ya makofi. The were all saying the same thing Frank and the Fighter were to quick to reject the definition of endurance (which is what kanga motema is about). There is nothing wrong with the definition it was important to give it then explore the subject.
Frank na sporting wanna pense avec leur ego. Trop bete de hauser le ton et dire nimporte quoi pour minimiser jeremy. Les imbeciles don't ils dissent meme ils partake deux meme
Jeffrey a tout à fait raison, il n'a rien dit de mal. Il a juste expliqué les mots correctement, le sens et les détails en fait. il a tout dit. en fait le gars en rouge n'est pas cohérent... la prochaine fois il doit se gérer dans certains propos il est un peu distant sur le sujet.
Je trouve que la question n'était pas bien posée, elle devait être ciblée sur des aspects bien particuliers (la gestion de conflits; l'éducation des enfants; les couples avec différentes.. Comment mettre en place de bonnes résolutions pona ko kanga motema...) ça aurait donné une direction dans l'échange. Le panel s'est bien défendu quand même, je suis d'accord sur le fait qu'il faut respecter les opinions de chacun même si on y adhère pas.
Kanga motema est un conseil oh pardon une injonction envers les femmes. C’est très très très rare de voir un homme être conseillé de cette façon. Les femmes sont celles qui se plaignent le plus parce qu’elles sont également celles qui supportent, tolèrent, endurent, acceptent beaucoup de choses dans le foyer qu’un homme dans ce monde n’oserait même jamais penser accepter, pourquoi? juste parce que c’est un homme et il a un pénis. Donc j’aurais aimé voir des femmes mariées (Dymund est là c’est bien) ou divorcées, des femmes ayant étés dans des relations longues avec des hommes, des femmes de différentes générations nous partager leurs histoires et conseils. Merci pour la participation des panélistes sur le plateau mais on aurait pu donner la parole aux concernées. Les hommes parle beaucoup mais ce n’est pas à eux qu’on demande cela le plus souvent et restent à savoir s’ils dans la vraie vie ils appliquent ce kanga motema. Et puis le monsieur habillé en rouge est très arrogant et agressif. Quand on vient donner son avis on devrait apprendre à le faire sans faire passer un autre paneliste pour un clown. Il a très mal réagi aux propos de Jeffrey. Il est jeune oui, mais il n’est l’enfant de personne et il a le droit d’avoir son point de vue.
@@bonheurkitengeC'est parce que les hommes paient the bride price et par conséquent, women have to obey by those men's rules et tout supporter. (According to Congolese culture) It's so ridiculous!!!
@@believegb3691according a congolese culture?? Donc la raison dont l'homme paye la dote est pour la femme obéï et supporte tout sur lui? Ma soeur arrêtes de vendre male la tradition....
The host has to have a neutral atmosphere in balancing the people talking , be more professional by not skipping Jeffery 😅😂😂😂 Congolese host be skipping Jeffery lol next time the host give every body a fair chance to speak ,stop skipping Jeffery
Many comments: 1. Why are the panelists twisting things? I don’t know whether they grew up in Congo or not but « Kanga motema » is OFTEN used only in toxic situations such as cheating , physical abuse , emotional abuse and so on … When it’s non toxic issues , people will give you practical solutions other than that. So YES « kanga motema » in our community is a toxic say that either needs to change or be stopped completely
All I’m hearing is stay and be traumatised. This is why premarital counselling and personal growth and therapy is crucial in this community. Nobody here is talking about the effect of unhealed traumas and how it can present on relationships and marriages.
On sait très bien voir ba nani baza abusive huh! C'est vraiment clair ! Kanga motema eza ko Endurer exactement cme le garçon en locs alobi et on endure que ce qui est pénible. Mutu a diaboliser terme wana aza te po diable azalaki déjà na penser ya batu oyo ba ya na ngo! Pas besoin ya ko couvrir quoi que ce soit ! Kanga motema veut dire ata ba buki yo loboko, zala wana ! Ata mobali a violer yo zala wana! Ata azui basi 100, zala wana ! Ata mobali azo finga yo na misu ya batu, zala wana....etc Kanga motema has nothing to do with patience! Stop lying! Batu ba yela biso kanga motema ba s'inspira na violence et rien d'autre !!!
4. It’s a pity that Syntiche didn’t know how to explore her idea about separation (because certainly she doesn’t know what she’s really talking about). IMO Temporary separation could help some marriages if done HEALTHILY and within a VERY limited period of time like 2-3 days. It could be time to reflect on one’s actions, pray and fast and …
2 - 3 days ??? La personne qui l'applique en premier doit être trop fort en prière s'assurant que le temps n'ouvre pas les portes pour des pires choses
True true ! Personally my mum says to NEVER leave the marital bed even for a night , no matter what happened . But with ba kanda mususu i think a bit of time is needed to digest 😂 J’sais pas mais ce n est pas facile en tout cas 😕
5. The way champion kept talking about Jeffrey was plainly rude. Each one is entitled to their opinion . Yes we can argue if the person claims that their opinion is a fact. But if they’re not , respect them please
31:21 People thinking like Syntiche are very dangerous… with that precise argument, she takes off credit (without any type of legitimacy if I may) for all parents that raise their children alone, children that have grown into positively influent, respectful and hardworking adults. [By the way, those “statistics” some of us would really appreciate the source of it.]. And by answering that she prefers having toxic energy in the household than having the father outside of it, is it really about the children needs or more about satisfying one’s principles while potentially risking greater damages to these kids? Sometimes passing your turn and taking the time for necessary reflection (I mean you can obviously take 5 minutes on an hour…) may not be a bad idea… Mais eza liberté n’a ye ko pesa ba opinions ya ndege wana bien sûr. I just think that as responsible tata na mama il faut to keba impact ya biloba na bisso pona ba generations mosusu.
Le sujet était bon, mais il y a trop du manque de respect à mon avis. Un débat ne peut jamais faire en sorte que chacun accepte l’opinion d’une autre personne. Donc, acceptez d’abord ce qu’une personne dit sans de ridiculiser ou insulter la personne ou de couper la Parole. Maman Host, je vous respecte beaucoup, mais vous devez aussi corriger et redresser les personnes, qui parlent maladroit please.🙏🏽
Frankly je nai pas aime ton impolitesse envers le frere jeremy au debut quand on a donne la parole aux hommes. C quoi ce comportement aggressive come ca? Meme si tu nest pas en accord qui te donne le droit de parler a un autre homme neti aza eloko moko ya pamba?
I don’t think that Syntiche lady realise how problematic her reasoning are so you will separate stay in the same household with your 5 kids whom will pick up the energy and possibly be traumatised at the new dynamic . Kids know everything the environment they inhale is what is getting exhale now there’s so many damaged “men” and “women” To say no one will want you is actually troubling that’s the mindset some Congolese tell their daughters into staying in an environment that’s clearly not health . Not all parents truly speak on what they had to endure many had endure abuse of some form many have endured cheating and having kids out of wedlocks and holds hella secrets to appear all rose and many are sad slowly dying I am not saying happy marriage does not exist they do , but her logic isn’t making sense . The kids will pick on that dysfunction and if it is not tackled well they will forever have instability
Syntche parents should be very proud. they raised a wise young lady👏🏾 the way she always references statistics and the bible rather than talking just to talk is what we need more of. If you disagree with her then you disagree with reality and God cuz that’s all she brings to the conversations. her ability to stand her ground in a room full of big personalities is amazing. I wish more Congolese women were as intelligent and poised as her and more young women need to follow her example. Bring her back for season 5 🗣️🗣️
NONE of the things she said are biblically sound or understood this way by any pastor that has had a theological training. And the so called statistics she is providing are absolute and utter nonsense coming out of the red pill community. A bunch of false propaganda that is leading her astray. Sorry to see that she is impressing people. The blind leading the blind.
The lady in black dress doesn’t make sense at all . Mieux mutu akeyi que yo otikali mais séparation des chambres Po rendre encore endroit wana toxique pour les enfants aussi . Même si ton mari te tape devant les enfants donc toi tu vas reste pour les enfants. Soki olingi bana okoki ko Tia bango na condition wana tein. Wana Oza selfish. Bana bazuaka éducation na oyo bazo mona et non na oyo bazo yoka . T’es actions yango nde eza na plus d’influence na éducation y’a bana .
La traction de Kanga motema c’est la Patience! C’est tout le dur et pénible c’est pas vrai!!. Je suis désolé mais je préfère le “casting“ des précédentes saisons. De plus, ce casting ne fait pas l’effort de parler le Lingala. Solola Bien, please try to if your people to speak Lingala!!
Kotangaka kombo ya yaya na biso Gladys te soki aza te that’s rude and disrespectful when you talk about Gladys . En tout cas na sepeli te . Bongisa maloba nayo svp.
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Gladys is not even here but she's shooting at her 😮😮😮 so rude
Syntiche reminds me of those young girls who really want to appear older but when they speak it just reveals how young their thinking and logic is. Mawa penza. This episode was funny I can’t lie. Best comment was from champion biso nioso toza ba hyprocrite 😂😂😂😂
She’s what feminists call " pick me" it’s all to get validation without having proper analysis or even experience I’d say
At least Gladys is married and with 3 children I don’t understand how syntche has not experienced this but has so much chat for Gladys ? the one with the most balanced views is Dymund I really like the way she presents an issue. Classy but standing her ground. Respect is important in our community even if you right.
Well we all her husband is a certified simp😂 We also know that man she’s with he’s not what she wish for few years back but she got in desperate mode so had to tolerate him. Finally we also know Zero HIGH VALUE MEN will ever date 99.9% of your types😊 Gladys type of women will get Gladys type of men giving birth to Gladys type of kids etc Girls like y’all will AWAYS end up with men your tolerating rather than what you wished n hoped for because YOU’RE LOW VALUE N THAT STINKS‼️
Exactly
3. The way Syntiche researched about kids from single parent households, should be the same way she researches about kids from broken homes . Because it can be as damaging !!!
Le malentendu au début me fait de la peine. Jeffrey a simplement dit que la manière dont Kanga motema à été introduit s’est transformée en « endurer » et endurer en question dans le dicton veut dire « supporter avec patience ce qui est dur ou pénible » c’était pourtant simple à comprendre 😭
6. Nothing Jeffrey said was wrong . I think the French troubled the other panelists and they overreacted 😂😂😂
another thing is our mothers gave us the right advice but they never said exactly the limits of kokanga motema so many of us thought everything is acceptable. I believe that it means have a big heart towards each others different sides because we all come from different families and background. It dont mean accept cheating, abuse or disrespect.
It means exactly what you said at the end and that's what most mums did. Having big heart means zala motema monene and not kanga motema which on the other hand means endure.
Unfortunately for many Congolese women of that generation "Kanga Motema" means exactly what you described in your last sentence. Accepting some cheating or disrespect, maybe not abuse if it's "too much."
Why does kanga motema only applies to woman.
2. Syntiche sounded very naive in this episode, talking about “i can never marry a cheater”. As Dymund said, people chaaaange. You might marry a non cheater but life circumstances later on turn him into an abuser .
Svp laissez Carolina s’exprimer très souvent elle ne parle pas beaucoup mais quand elle ouvre sa bouche elle dit des choses tellement censées
I miss Gladys in this episode 😢
I can't find ANY of the statistics that Syntich has found. Can someone send or add a link please? Thank you. Need to read for myself.
It’s probably favoritism (frère Dede)
We need more episodes with champion 💪🏼
Syntyche sorry but u don't think bout your kids because their image of the marriage will be biased .. and they will reproduce the same schema on their relationship and respective marriages..
Gonna have to let people speak and land their points without interruption otherwise it’s just gonna be a battle of who can speak the loudest! - great topic, wish it was discussed more eloquently.
Syntiche will grow to learn by herself.
Synthia stop being disrespectful 😢 towards Gladys , Give your opinion but stop using Gladys name in rude and childish way , Cynthia and Bobbet are kind of rude
She deserves that! She is constantly disrespecting congolese people, and she's loud and rude, finally somebody called her out
Yeah you are totally right I don’t find her view’s balanced or mature even the way she talks about black issues on tik tok is even disrespectful and showing her age.
Pls can u let me know how I am rude, please? I'm not even on this episode, but I'm rude
@@missikalo On your previous episodes dear rewatch them , your communication style when you interact with the others it comes out Rude but I believe you can work on that
Sorry u feel that way but I know I communicated very well, I didn't interrupt anyone talking and I was assertive with my answers and behaviours that I showed respect for others opinion and I didn't talk about anyone in a rude way. So I know I don't need to work on any of my communication skills ,if so I would have seen many complaining how I communicated. Congolese ppl always come up with their own diagnosis on ppl to the point they even advicing u, but u can work on it. Seriously
IVP: Institut de Vérité Polélé Polélé 😂😂😂
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Ya Frankos was not having it 😂
Bonjour, le frère qui a traduit en français à totalement raison
Le sujet était très intéressant. Mais il ya eu beaucoup de manque de respect envers Jeffrey.. Essayez d'être plus civilisés la prochaine fois ds vos échanges
Syntyche 0 0 mama - ozo attaké Gladys pourquoi ? La jalousie c’est moche einn ?? Tu n’ai pas marier ni d’enfants retourne sur les band d’école ba tangisa yo au lieu de dire n’importe quoi.. L’humilité précède la gloire ko bosana té avant de donné des conseils que tu ne sais rien dessus.. toi qui disais l’age moyen de mariage c’est 30ans ans au Congo 19ans et yo oza mwasi ya bien.. il est ou ton mari ? 😂 va dormir
Everyone missed what synthia said and it’s amazing! She’s talking about keeping a family which creates a community and a community creates a nation. I like her!
Yes we must protect the family at all costs. Family is Gods first institution and if we destroy that we destroy society, which we are witnessing right now. It’s selfish to leave just because your ‘unhappy’ God never promised a happy life let alone a happy marriage. we need let go of this Disney fantasy of marriage x
It’s like they are arguing just to argue at this point😂 how can you argue against protecting the family ?? We are a lost generation
@@BASEDANDBOUGIE Say it louder sist!
@@Enisha306 I was watching it confused too! 😂
@@BASEDANDBOUGIEgirl shut up
You can be physically present , but still absent many parents especially guys yes they are present at home , but they are absent
They do not communicate with their kids they do assist their children with homework for example some don’t push their children to explore all revenue of career
I am sorry , but if his out here cheating is it really present as a dad ?
His already absent into being a good lover this Synthic girl logic is very damaging
Why Jeffrey is always so aggressive? On dirait il veut se battre mdrr 😩
I don't know Jeffrey but I found that Frankos rudely interrupted him while he was trying to make a point, on the time that was given to him. Mr. Frankos then went on a rampage, stamping his opinion like the only rule -whilst shushing his fellow man. That was not okay.
Still a fan of Mr Thsim's though 😊
@@joelleramazani5619I agree the two others sort of attacked him. I don’t think he’s aggressive at all. He reacted because of the way he was rudely attacked.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 he speaks like he wants to fight 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Je suis désolée, champion lui a mal parlé, manqué de respect des le départ. Et frankos y riait.Alors c’est normal que Jeffrey soit sur la défensive.
@@giseletsiku3474 EXACTLY! Very disrespectful! Les débats doivent se faire dans le respect 🫡
I’m sorry but I don’t think Syntiche understands that single parents and absent parents aren’t the same thing. So many people grew up with both parents but because of this same scenario, one parent is very much absent while still living in the house. She also said I don’t want my kids to “not have a father” I’m sorry but is the father dead?? Do the parents need to live in one house in order to be present parents? Please let’s kill that mindset because that’s exactly the definition of Kanga mutema we are trying to erase in the culture. Lastly, it’s not always about “I would never be in that position” as a Christian you know never to say that, not every cheater in marriage was a cheater when single, good people can fall or make dumb decisions too.
Ps the men need to apologize to yaya Jefferey😂 it’s like you guys were projecting Syntiche’s philosophy on him💀
Jeffrey a raison: endurer= Supporter avec patience (ce qui est dur, pénible).
=subir, et quand on subie ce n’est plus de l’amour=maltraitance.
Jeffrey is absolutely right, he didn't say anything wrong. He just explained the words correctly, the meaning and the details in fact. he said everything. in fact the guy in red is not coherent... next time he has to manage himself in certain comments he is a little distant in the subject. 🙂
Il a totalement raison ce qu’il a traduit en français 🎉 bravo 🎉
Champion sakola
Olobi bien
Mwana mayi💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
I love lové Carolina and dymund tbh ❤
Karolina and Dymund 👏🏾
Svp vraiment, you guys need to work on respecting other people opinions, without shouting and disrespecting the person. The idea of the emission is to help the community, but lemme tell you that you will not help anyone if you can’t even help each other. I feel like now people are just talking because they have to and out of emotions. I like Syntiche because she speaks with fact, which is actually educating. The reaction of tonton Francos towards Jeffrey opinion in the beginning was very disrespectful. Champion did not bring anything in the discussion sorry, apart from aggression. Big love to Karolina and Diamund who were very respectful.
It was very hard to finish the emission with all the shouting and interruptions. Listen to understand and not to argue.
Ya Frankos "kanga motema" en Français ce n'est pas seulement la patience. C'est supporter, endurer avec fermeté. On patiente et on accepte d'endurer des choses difficile. But Also, please when you guys are sharing your opinions, try to respect other people's opinions as well. Papa boxeur alobi batu balobaka Français Baza mayele te, ba zoba. Which was a bit rude and inappropriate.
Yeah that was very rude and disrespectful from the so called MMA fighter
It's clear that he's a violent man!!
I'm still asking myself why they thought Syntiche is fit to be a panelist. She is so inexperienced and fresh in the market of life experience based on her answers.
She should be back here once she's got more life experience or faced a few challenges in life.
The BS she keeps of telling us here is unbelievable 😂😂😂
that’s exactly why she is needed. A lot of the youth could be agreeing to her ways of seeing certain things… (inexperienced at least in this topic)
you guys only mention Syntche age and married status because you know she is speaking truth and you have nothing else to counter her. why do you need to be ‘experienced’ in life to understand the BASIC principle that marriage requires sacrifice? boza na sense tse?
It’s her opinion and she is entitled to it because she’s representing a group of ppl who think like her. However her lack of experience still shows. But it is needed.
Sintiche has valid points but she’s very young and lacks experience. Families are the backbone of communities! Period! Maman Dymund, Kitoko. In general it was a great discussion, well done! 👏🏾 Nissy Vraiment always Kitoko.
Great advice dymund
Aujourd’hui Jeffrey a pas mal parlé. C’est vrai que on a collé une étiquette du kanga motema comme ci c’était mauvais mais je crois que sa façon de s’exprimer agace les autres 😅. Il doit parler plus posément pour pas qu’on se braque contre lui
Le sportif là a été irrespectueux parlant de Kizengi po moninga pesi définition ya expression en question. Que vous soyez d'accord ou pas de la définition, il a eu un bon réflexe de vouloir comprendre l'expression. Na yebi te soki eza ba effets ya makofi. The were all saying the same thing Frank and the Fighter were to quick to reject the definition of endurance (which is what kanga motema is about). There is nothing wrong with the definition it was important to give it then explore the subject.
Frank na sporting wanna pense avec leur ego. Trop bete de hauser le ton et dire nimporte quoi pour minimiser jeremy. Les imbeciles don't ils dissent meme ils partake deux meme
Jeffrey a tout à fait raison, il n'a rien dit de mal. Il a juste expliqué les mots correctement, le sens et les détails en fait. il a tout dit. en fait le gars en rouge n'est pas cohérent... la prochaine fois il doit se gérer dans certains propos il est un peu distant sur le sujet.
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Je trouve que la question n'était pas bien posée, elle devait être ciblée sur des aspects bien particuliers (la gestion de conflits; l'éducation des enfants; les couples avec différentes.. Comment mettre en place de bonnes résolutions pona ko kanga motema...) ça aurait donné une direction dans l'échange.
Le panel s'est bien défendu quand même, je suis d'accord sur le fait qu'il faut respecter les opinions de chacun même si on y adhère pas.
Kanga motema est un conseil oh pardon une injonction envers les femmes. C’est très très très rare de voir un homme être conseillé de cette façon. Les femmes sont celles qui se plaignent le plus parce qu’elles sont également celles qui supportent, tolèrent, endurent, acceptent beaucoup de choses dans le foyer qu’un homme dans ce monde n’oserait même jamais penser accepter, pourquoi? juste parce que c’est un homme et il a un pénis. Donc j’aurais aimé voir des femmes mariées (Dymund est là c’est bien) ou divorcées, des femmes ayant étés dans des relations longues avec des hommes, des femmes de différentes générations nous partager leurs histoires et conseils. Merci pour la participation des panélistes sur le plateau mais on aurait pu donner la parole aux concernées. Les hommes parle beaucoup mais ce n’est pas à eux qu’on demande cela le plus souvent et restent à savoir s’ils dans la vraie vie ils appliquent ce kanga motema.
Et puis le monsieur habillé en rouge est très arrogant et agressif. Quand on vient donner son avis on devrait apprendre à le faire sans faire passer un autre paneliste pour un clown. Il a très mal réagi aux propos de Jeffrey. Il est jeune oui, mais il n’est l’enfant de personne et il a le droit d’avoir son point de vue.
You have good point here, pourquoi “kanga motema” c’est toujours adresser aux femmes, pourquoi pas aux hommes ?
@@bonheurkitengeC'est parce que les hommes paient the bride price et par conséquent, women have to obey by those men's rules et tout supporter. (According to Congolese culture)
It's so ridiculous!!!
@@believegb3691according a congolese culture?? Donc la raison dont l'homme paye la dote est pour la femme obéï et supporte tout sur lui? Ma soeur arrêtes de vendre male la tradition....
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Jeffrey!!!!! Olobi bien Ndenko!!!!
Cynthishe est vraiment dans les faits avec les stats a l'appuie mais d'autre parlent pour elle meme en terme d'individualite!!!
Franchement certains sujets des fois c’est mieux d’avoir que des panélistes mariés!
The host has to have a neutral atmosphere in balancing the people talking , be more professional by not skipping Jeffery 😅😂😂😂 Congolese host be skipping Jeffery lol next time the host give every body a fair chance to speak ,stop skipping Jeffery
Many comments:
1. Why are the panelists twisting things? I don’t know whether they grew up in Congo or not but « Kanga motema » is OFTEN used only in toxic situations such as cheating , physical abuse , emotional abuse and so on …
When it’s non toxic issues , people will give you practical solutions other than that.
So YES « kanga motema » in our community is a toxic say that either needs to change or be stopped completely
All I’m hearing is stay and be traumatised. This is why premarital counselling and personal growth and therapy is crucial in this community. Nobody here is talking about the effect of unhealed traumas and how it can present on relationships and marriages.
The girl who is going on and on about single parent household…what if your partner dies?
On sait très bien voir ba nani baza abusive huh! C'est vraiment clair !
Kanga motema eza ko Endurer exactement cme le garçon en locs alobi et on endure que ce qui est pénible. Mutu a diaboliser terme wana aza te po diable azalaki déjà na penser ya batu oyo ba ya na ngo! Pas besoin ya ko couvrir quoi que ce soit ! Kanga motema veut dire ata ba buki yo loboko, zala wana ! Ata mobali a violer yo zala wana! Ata azui basi 100, zala wana ! Ata mobali azo finga yo na misu ya batu, zala wana....etc
Kanga motema has nothing to do with patience! Stop lying! Batu ba yela biso kanga motema ba s'inspira na violence et rien d'autre !!!
Well said 👏🏿 je ne sais pas pourquoi les panelists ont nié cette réalité .
“Kanga mutema” eza toxic, period !
Très belle émission. Bravo!
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Glady should have been in this discussion
Yango kanga motema c’est juste our les femmes et non les hommes ?😅 les hommes aussi doivent kanga motema à mon avis
4. It’s a pity that Syntiche didn’t know how to explore her idea about separation (because certainly she doesn’t know what she’s really talking about).
IMO Temporary separation could help some marriages if done HEALTHILY and within a VERY limited period of time like 2-3 days.
It could be time to reflect on one’s actions, pray and fast and …
2 - 3 days ??? La personne qui l'applique en premier doit être trop fort en prière s'assurant que le temps n'ouvre pas les portes pour des pires choses
True true ! Personally my mum says to NEVER leave the marital bed even for a night , no matter what happened . But with ba kanda mususu i think a bit of time is needed to digest 😂
J’sais pas mais ce n est pas facile en tout cas 😕
💯 d’accord bec Jeffrey franchement
53:51 bo tala ba regards ya ba sœurs en Christ 🥲😭
5. The way champion kept talking about Jeffrey was plainly rude. Each one is entitled to their opinion .
Yes we can argue if the person claims that their opinion is a fact. But if they’re not , respect them please
Cynthia azo loba I don't care about what my husband is doing but my children non sense
Sérieux pour les nouvelles personnes je préfère vraiment carolina 😍
Champion il faut a zala na ba débats mosusu ahahah 👌🏾
He’s honest. Women want Honesty but can’t deal with it if it’s about themselves they well I mean some the immature women only like selective Honesty .
31:21 People thinking like Syntiche are very dangerous… with that precise argument, she takes off credit (without any type of legitimacy if I may) for all parents that raise their children alone, children that have grown into positively influent, respectful and hardworking adults. [By the way, those “statistics” some of us would really appreciate the source of it.]. And by answering that she prefers having toxic energy in the household than having the father outside of it, is it really about the children needs or more about satisfying one’s principles while potentially risking greater damages to these kids?
Sometimes passing your turn and taking the time for necessary reflection (I mean you can obviously take 5 minutes on an hour…) may not be a bad idea…
Mais eza liberté n’a ye ko pesa ba opinions ya ndege wana bien sûr. I just think that as responsible tata na mama il faut to keba impact ya biloba na bisso pona ba generations mosusu.
Let her finish 😂😂😂
Le sujet était bon, mais il y a trop du manque de respect à mon avis. Un débat ne peut jamais faire en sorte que chacun accepte l’opinion d’une autre personne. Donc, acceptez d’abord ce qu’une personne dit sans de ridiculiser ou insulter la personne ou de couper la Parole. Maman Host, je vous respecte beaucoup, mais vous devez aussi corriger et redresser les personnes, qui parlent maladroit please.🙏🏽
Somebody finally called out gladys 🙌🏾
It would’ve been better if Gladys was actually there. Doing this in her absence is high key weird
Gladys is actually yaya uno, where’s the respect
Frankly je nai pas aime ton impolitesse envers le frere jeremy au debut quand on a donne la parole aux hommes. C quoi ce comportement aggressive come ca? Meme si tu nest pas en accord qui te donne le droit de parler a un autre homme neti aza eloko moko ya pamba?
C’est vrai. Pourtant papa Frankis est plutôt cool dans les émissions précédentes
Il a tjrs été impoli depuis solola bien ebanda. 🤦
This Syntiche has a worrying mindset
Why is it everytime they start speaking English or French , they tell them to start speaking Lingala?💀
Synthyche? I just can‘t. 0 wisdom
Absolutely none
Saison oyo nazo trouver ango trop malili ! Where Christian Blessing ?
Liker la vidéo
I miss Glady where she’s
I don’t think that Syntiche lady realise how problematic her reasoning are so you will separate stay in the same household with your 5 kids whom will pick up the energy and possibly be traumatised at the new dynamic . Kids know everything the environment they inhale is what is getting exhale now there’s so many damaged “men” and “women”
To say no one will want you is actually troubling that’s the mindset some Congolese tell their daughters into staying in an environment that’s clearly not health .
Not all parents truly speak on what they had to endure many had endure abuse of some form many have endured cheating and having kids out of wedlocks and holds hella secrets to appear all rose and many are sad slowly dying
I am not saying happy marriage does not exist they do , but her logic isn’t making sense .
The kids will pick on that dysfunction and if it is not tackled well they will forever have instability
Kanga motema stops when DV is invited. Si non cheating, wana ba jeux d’enfants.
Vous me faites peut 😶
Jeffrey malembe please , why is he talking so aggressively every single time 😩😩😩
OZO SIANA NA NANI?
Eh sportif wana pardon kaka let me keep quiet
Syntche parents should be very proud. they raised a wise young lady👏🏾 the way she always references statistics and the bible rather than talking just to talk is what we need more of. If you disagree with her then you disagree with reality and God cuz that’s all she brings to the conversations.
her ability to stand her ground in a room full of big personalities is amazing. I wish more Congolese women were as intelligent and poised as her and more young women need to follow her example. Bring her back for season 5 🗣️🗣️
NONE of the things she said are biblically sound or understood this way by any pastor that has had a theological training. And the so called statistics she is providing are absolute and utter nonsense coming out of the red pill community. A bunch of false propaganda that is leading her astray. Sorry to see that she is impressing people. The blind leading the blind.
C'est to opinions
Yeah this episode not liking tresor needed to be on this one
The lady in black dress doesn’t make sense at all . Mieux mutu akeyi que yo otikali mais séparation des chambres Po rendre encore endroit wana toxique pour les enfants aussi . Même si ton mari te tape devant les enfants donc toi tu vas reste pour les enfants. Soki olingi bana okoki ko Tia bango na condition wana tein. Wana Oza selfish. Bana bazuaka éducation na oyo bazo mona et non na oyo bazo yoka . T’es actions yango nde eza na plus d’influence na éducation y’a bana .
Champion est nul dans sa façon de pensé réflexion nul vraiment
Il est agressif pour rien et ne dis rien
Sisisi
La traction de Kanga motema c’est la Patience! C’est tout le dur et pénible c’est pas vrai!!. Je suis désolé mais je préfère le “casting“ des précédentes saisons. De plus, ce casting ne fait pas l’effort de parler le Lingala. Solola Bien, please try to if your people to speak Lingala!!
Kotangaka kombo ya yaya na biso Gladys te soki aza te that’s rude and disrespectful when you talk about Gladys . En tout cas na sepeli te . Bongisa maloba nayo svp.
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