@@26realmc in no sport do pros acknowledge opponent until the game/match is over. It's weak not to know this. Baseball after each inning? football, basketball after each quarter? hockey after each period? lmfao
@@billcooper423 so was every other sport. It is now a professional sport. They don't need to follow old fashioned protocol just like tennis no longer follows old fashioned protocol. You want to tap paddles then tap paddles. Pro don't need that nonsense. It is outdated for them. Every sport has outdated traditions.
I recall from growing up in the ‘70’s that my dad loved watching Arther Ashe play but just as much, if not more so, because of his sportsmanship. He was a gentleman on and off the court. Conversely, despite Jimmy Connors’ ability, my dad disdained him due to his antics/attitude. Fast forward 40+ years and I find myself with overlaid thoughts re: Ben Johns and Riley Newman. I know some think Pickleball needs more “characters” to root for/against, but for me, I’d love to see less in the way of “characters”, more by way of character. I guess that makes me “old school”. Absolutely love Newman’s ability/competitiveness on the court during a point, think he’s probably the person most likely to dethrone Johns, if anyone will. Want to root for him as the “underdog” whenever he’s matched against Ben, but find it hard to. I’ve never been in favor of (overdone) finger wagging, fist pumping, long stares, “YEAH’s”, and the like. The new push to avoid mid-match paddle taps at the end of each game, while I understand the reasoning, is a lose-lose: it looks like you’re a sore loser when you’re losing (29:34) and conceited when you’re winning. Vastly prefer allowing one’s play to “do the talking”. I’ve become my dad.
I'm not familiar with much of Newman's antics yet but totally agree with your premise, 100% Ugh, something like that, would sure look like and feel like a sore loser, darn. Hopefully, it that's the case he'll get the message and "get it." We've all been beat and it's just life, and we need to be better than that. There's certainly no reason to be ignorant, it just shows a sad lack of character or immaturity. Hopefully, he'll understand soon and just let his play do the talking and win or lose, be the bigger man or woman. Hey, your dad sounds like a great guy...even though lol, we loooved ol Jimmy and Mac, they were sure a mess and brought such life to the game :) Smiling all around just thinking about em back then :)
@@SMcda if you're mind is to win, you have to sometimes stay in the zone especially when money is on the line. Maybe its just me, but I think the ATP that was called "out" in the beginning 6:40 by Waters was highly suspect and set the tone...appeared to me to be in.
9:34 why would you even argue that? clearly a foot fault. lol doesnt matter if the point is over and your momentum carried you in after it ball goes out, fault.
Honestly, looked like if the first shot had been a clean winner he wouldn't have toppled into the kitchen, was only because he started moving across to play another shot that he didn't manage to hold his balance and fell inside. So arguably it was partly the momentum from the first shot and a fault, but also arguably only inside because he was moving for the next shot. I'm a little unsure on what the rule is if you could stop your momentum outside the kitchen, but part way through doing that you have to move for the next shot and that carries you inside, are you just not allowed to play the next shot until you have demonstrated you have stopped your momentum from the one before?
That does not matter as so many people believe… if his momentum took twenty minutes to carry him into the kitchen it’s a fault. He obviously knew that by the way he was trying to stay out.
The guy is pretty pathetic. He doesn't like ALW so he purposely hit her. Either way she has the upper hand because shes #1 and he'll always be a loser.
Lindsey Newman is by far my favorite player to watch. Ignatowich and Bright are the two most boring players to watch - they play like robots. And ALW and Alshon need to play some pro tennis tournaments.
I don't know why, but I do not like Anna Leigh Waters. I totally respect her game and know she's usually the best player on the court, but I find myself rooting against her every time. Maybe because she's too good? It's kinda like rooting against the Yankees or the Patriots of old.
on 45:00 it looks like it bounced outside of the kitchen; wouldn't it have to bounce in the kitchen to allow the player to step in the kitchen while playing a ball?
@@ebsmith1000 Not sure what I was watching or how late 😅... but the first reply is correct. it bounced first, so no fault. It does not matter if the bounce happens inside our outside the kitchen. Also I said "two instances" but really its just one? 🤦♂
Watching Pickleball these days is like watching pro tennis in the 40s…very simple shot making and little athleticism. The game will change dramatically if real money ever gets into the game…but that won’t happen soon unless there is more shotmaking and athleticism…
Wow, what a game. Anna Lee and Ben are unbelievable.
It's sweet when Ben Johns puts paddle out and since the Newman's don't like to touch paddles at the end of a game Anna Leigh gives him a tap.
@@26realmc in no sport do pros acknowledge opponent until the game/match is over. It's weak not to know this. Baseball after each inning? football, basketball after each quarter? hockey after each period? lmfao
Poor sportsmanship 😢
@@billcooper423 lmfao - name another sport where they do that.
@@beyondthepale9071 The Game was build around etiquette of game and Sportsmanship, other Game could probably it.
@@billcooper423 so was every other sport. It is now a professional sport. They don't need to follow old fashioned protocol just like tennis no longer follows old fashioned protocol. You want to tap paddles then tap paddles. Pro don't need that nonsense. It is outdated for them. Every sport has outdated traditions.
22:07 crazy rally
love when Riley screws it up!
All I know is when Newman starts chirping I always know what the result would be
I recall from growing up in the ‘70’s that my dad loved watching Arther Ashe play but just as much, if not more so, because of his sportsmanship. He was a gentleman on and off the court. Conversely, despite Jimmy Connors’ ability, my dad disdained him due to his antics/attitude. Fast forward 40+ years and I find myself with overlaid thoughts re: Ben Johns and Riley Newman. I know some think Pickleball needs more “characters” to root for/against, but for me, I’d love to see less in the way of “characters”, more by way of character. I guess that makes me “old school”. Absolutely love Newman’s ability/competitiveness on the court during a point, think he’s probably the person most likely to dethrone Johns, if anyone will. Want to root for him as the “underdog” whenever he’s matched against Ben, but find it hard to. I’ve never been in favor of (overdone) finger wagging, fist pumping, long stares, “YEAH’s”, and the like. The new push to avoid mid-match paddle taps at the end of each game, while I understand the reasoning, is a lose-lose: it looks like you’re a sore loser when you’re losing (29:34) and conceited when you’re winning. Vastly prefer allowing one’s play to “do the talking”. I’ve become my dad.
Totally agree on the “antics” in any sport, I’ve always found it to be poor sportsmanship and bit gouache…
I'm not familiar with much of Newman's antics yet but totally agree with your premise, 100% Ugh, something like that, would sure look like and feel like a sore loser, darn. Hopefully, it that's the case he'll get the message and "get it." We've all been beat and it's just life, and we need to be better than that. There's certainly no reason to be ignorant, it just shows a sad lack of character or immaturity. Hopefully, he'll understand soon and just let his play do the talking and win or lose, be the bigger man or woman. Hey, your dad sounds like a great guy...even though lol, we loooved ol Jimmy and Mac, they were sure a mess and brought such life to the game :) Smiling all around just thinking about em back then :)
new to the game, what would be the harm in mid-match paddle tap?
@@SMcda No harm but I think the reasoning is that the same sort of gesture doesn’t happen in other sports, so why pickleball?
@@SMcda if you're mind is to win, you have to sometimes stay in the zone especially when money is on the line. Maybe its just me, but I think the ATP that was called "out" in the beginning 6:40 by Waters was highly suspect and set the tone...appeared to me to be in.
Came back to watch this game and it’s crazy how much faster the game has gotten in 9 months
Let’s see Ben John vs Anna Leigh best 3 out of 5. Great games. I wish I could see Riley and Anna Leigh vs Ben and Lindsay!
Let's have some fun!
9:34 why would you even argue that? clearly a foot fault. lol doesnt matter if the point is over and your momentum carried you in after it ball goes out, fault.
Honestly, looked like if the first shot had been a clean winner he wouldn't have toppled into the kitchen, was only because he started moving across to play another shot that he didn't manage to hold his balance and fell inside. So arguably it was partly the momentum from the first shot and a fault, but also arguably only inside because he was moving for the next shot.
I'm a little unsure on what the rule is if you could stop your momentum outside the kitchen, but part way through doing that you have to move for the next shot and that carries you inside, are you just not allowed to play the next shot until you have demonstrated you have stopped your momentum from the one before?
Newman is a bully.
John and ALW, great players.
I wish I could be there to support them.
GREAT PICKLEBALL!!!
Upvote for no spoilers.
I’ve stopped liking Newman’s game. Don’t understand why exactly but yeah. Not my style
Can someone explain to me the service rotations? I am so confused.. thanks
Someone give Riley the Heimlich cause he’s CHOKING 😂😂😂
Why no end game paddle touches?
why is it a foot fault at the 9:45 mark if he never volley the ball after Ben had returned the previous volley?
That does not matter as so many people believe… if his momentum took twenty minutes to carry him into the kitchen it’s a fault. He obviously knew that by the way he was trying to stay out.
0:54 foot fault not called
6:22 or whatever that was IN
Whether win or lose, the Newmans are really living up on not to touching paddles at the end of a game. 😅
All for it. The game needs something else
Just poor sportsmanship.
@@trumpismitsacult lmfao
I’ll take Lindsey Newman…Riley try’s to do too much Lindsey needs a better partner
32:08 Super uncalled for, aimed directly at ALW when she was out of bounds. 🤷♂
there should be fine for this stuff. that was uncalled for.
I say smart shot.
The guy is pretty pathetic. He doesn't like ALW so he purposely hit her. Either way she has the upper hand because shes #1 and he'll always be a loser.
Except after watching it, the foot fault was already called before he hit the shot at her. Agreed, uncalled for. Seems like he realized it right away.
@@jennisonb37 it was a pathetic move
Lindsey Newman is by far my favorite player to watch. Ignatowich and Bright are the two most boring players to watch - they play like robots. And ALW and Alshon need to play some pro tennis tournaments.
I'm not even going to watch this, because I know already who is going to win.
I don't know why, but I do not like Anna Leigh Waters. I totally respect her game and know she's usually the best player on the court, but I find myself rooting against her every time. Maybe because she's too good? It's kinda like rooting against the Yankees or the Patriots of old.
The Newmans are the poorest sports in the game…nothing better than watching them lose.
Ridiculous how Riley stares down after almost every point. Like c'mon dude, really?
no way she is 16
@@Houjixful I don't get your point...
Newman brother lost too many shots in the end.
You spoiled it for all of us🤦🏼♂️
15:36 - Foot fault by Ben John's. You can't step in the kitchen before the overhead, especially if the ball doesn't bounce in the kitchen.
He didn't foot fault though, after he stepped in the kitchen for the overhead he took 2 more steps so he established his footing, not a foot fault
Newman dude is a baby, unprofessional
So unsportsmanlike to not touch paddles.
Go Newman x 2
44:58 and 45:00 two missed foot fault calls.
Neither of those are foot faults. He doesn't hit volleys, the ball bounces.
on 45:00 it looks like it bounced outside of the kitchen; wouldn't it have to bounce in the kitchen to allow the player to step in the kitchen while playing a ball?
@@gpaolano true
@@ebsmith1000 Not sure what I was watching or how late 😅... but the first reply is correct. it bounced first, so no fault. It does not matter if the bounce happens inside our outside the kitchen. Also I said "two instances" but really its just one? 🤦♂
Watching Pickleball these days is like watching pro tennis in the 40s…very simple shot making and little athleticism.
The game will change dramatically if real money ever gets into the game…but that won’t happen soon unless there is more shotmaking and athleticism…
Good game, don't like ALW, don't know why, but i don't