Great points and I am looking forward to the second installment. Sometimes you will hear brands defending mineral crystal by mentioning sapphire is more likely to crack and therefore, a better option. It is technically true (which can make it a useful marketing tactic), but in all the pieces we made for the military, the difference in instances of our K1 mineral pieces cracking, vs sapphire, was very small. For the average watch wearer the difference would be negligible if not non existent.
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I still think that if some Chinese brands can put Sapphire in 25€ quartz watches (proven, not a marketing lie) Seiko has no excuse selling 200+ watches with mineral.
@@GodIsInHisHeaven There are a few models, would have to dig those up. It's not very crazy though, a generic flat sapphire crystal without AR coating may be down to 5-10€ a piece at this point if you buy in bulk. Entry level Japanese quartz movements costs about 1€, case and dial are pretty basic on a minimalist dress watch so...
Dave certainly leaves no stone unturned with his insights! Appreciate how every single video is packed with relevant info. Many of my watch purchases are literally based on the opinions of this channel. Thumbs up for creating the most kickass horology channel on RUclips. Regards Alawhie South Africa
Couldn't agree more! Those 4 specs are great for a good watch. However, the more I've been learning/buying, the more there is to it. As you say, you can get a Chinese watch with all those specs for under $100. And although great value, quality can be lacking. So as a 5th point, I would add Quality (Control): something you can't see on a spec sheet unfortunately. But adding a 'Made in Japan/Germany/Swiss' does ensure a level of QC. A 6th point would be design. There are so many ripoffs out there, or watches that simply have something off about their design. So, I would consider these: - Japanese/Swiss movement - sapphire - stainless steel - 50+m WR - quality control - good, original design
Great guide for beginners Dave, the hardest one for me to accept on a budget option is the alloy metal case. No telling how long that coating will hold up and then it’s pretty much ruined after that. Looking forward to more! 😎🍻👍
Very nice job of explaining the minimum specs required when purchasing a watch. You covered all the bases. My last couple of watches have been in the $300-$400 range, and in addition to the specs you’ve identified I look for a watch to have a Power Reserve of 70-80 hours; and to be accurate within 5-7 seconds/day, and a smooth operating crown which can be turned without any gritty feeling. I can’t stand owning a watch that can’t keep time! I bought a Seiko Presage Cocktail Watch and returned it as it lost around 15-25 seconds daily. Anyway, you’ve done a very good job in putting together some very useful information for anyone in the hunt for a watch. Keep up the good work...Ed
Hi, Dave. Thanks for the show. Good input for beginners. Keep up the good work. May I suggest a simple improvement? You speak to me, the viewer, in the clips. But you look beside me. It seems as you are looking at my left ear. It’s a bit annoying to watch at length, when the speaker doesn’t look you in the eyes, but slighty past you. So please check where the recording lens is located, so that you can focus on that. Would improve your films a bit.
Excellent advice - I'd add a screw down crown, at least for anything other than a dress watch. I've found that this additional feature really narrows down the field, but it very much increases my peace of mind for a daily wear watch. And I might be the exception, but I've had more bad luck with Swiss movements than Japanese, and now avoid them if possible. They cost more up front, cost more to service, and like I said, at least for me, have proven less durable and reliable.
Well i havent seen any of your videos yet just subscribed yesterday. Actually just seeing you makes me feel more happy your aura the energy is really very very positive. Just be like this. Your eyes and the way u talk is really charismatic. Lots of love from India Sir.
@@champagnejunior I'm not buying a homage to flex that i have the real thing, the pagani submariner homege is just the only way to get the tesign of the submariner with good specs for less than 100$.
I live in Poland, an average salary in Poland is less than 1000$ so if we asume living costs to be 0$ even then an average Polish person would need to work a year to buy a Rolex submariner.
I heard I can get a fancy Italian watch, which is affordable luxury and they have cut out the middle man, I can buy direct and save thousands compared to a high street luxury watch.
Thanks for the 4 things for good watches. My main problem for a daily wear is that I have a high contrast dial in a Miltary style. This means about 90% of the watches or even more do not have Arabic Numerals. Mostly in the past that means cheap timex in the $30.00 to $50 range. Other qualities I want are Time, date, and maybe day but no external buttons and a screw down crown. I don's swim, or wear my watch bathing, showering, washing dishes or working directly where I immerse my hand in water but do like watches that are water proof or resistant to 100m or more. I am amazed to see many watches restored that are older then I am (I am 79 and wear glasses.) Readability is a big factor, so miltary or weekeander style. timex for $30.00 which can be replaced severals times or more expensive watches that endure. That is the choice.
Great video. Nice that at the end you mentioned that there are very decent affordable watches with mineral crystal that are worth the money. For Many of us the sapphire crystal is still a luxury. If looking for a reputable brand, with a nice diver style watch with sapphire crystal, the Kamasu is a very nice and somewhat affordable way in. Stay safe and best regards from México!!!
I bought a tritium carnival watch with Japanese qaurtz movement.I have had it for five years the most accurate watch i have ever owned.Got the tritium automatic as well.
Hi sir 😊 i am new to your channel can you suggest some brands that is affordable for a lowbudget. Thank you.. I learned a lot from your channel.. More videos 😍
I choose watches by looking at reviews (of course;) but also like i choose plants in a garden center. I walk around and at some point a plant pops into view that your eyes are drawn to for some reason. So you choose it almost unconsciously. If a watch keeps drawing you in, go check the specs and reviews of course. Also my personal minimal demands: Sapphire crystal Solid links, with lots of options to set them No fashion brand, get a real watch brand Prefer microbrands because it's quite often a low amount of watches so more unique and they need to get sales so do well. Eta movements are awesome (tip: compare prices with same eta movement watches, shows you overpriced vs properly priced) 316 steel or titanium (check grade!) Have fun!
A nice set of guidelines - above all, for people who are still not that knowledgeable about watches. I can imagine someone just approaching the rabbit hole that is AliExpress, where you can find anything from $1 cheap quartzs to real tourbillons, and it can indeed be a bit confusing.
i would add one thing: if you can't find what movement exactly is in the watch, then you shouldn't buy it. If manufacturer is ashamed of the movement he used, it is not good movement.
The phrase sweep smoothly is a huge misnomer and probably causes lots of confusion for newbies. If I saw a cleaner sweeping a floor in the style of a mechanical watch’s second hand I’d be calling for an ambulance.
@@JusttheWatch I'm following their field model (Patrol Leather black), for some time. I simply love the modern/classic style (42mm case, with the inner bezel, etc...). Can you tell me 2 or 3 alternatives? Thank you very much 🙏🏼
@@JusttheWatch And even being diferent watches, but talking about quality and durability, what do you think about the NIXON FIELD PATROL LEATHER and SEIKO 5 GMT SSK001?
I wear tissot prc200 sapphire crystal since 2010 , braslet was torn twice , bezel is full of scratches, I chop wood, carry water, dig holes, I do everything in them - the glass is as good as new. I abused my watch heavily , and thinking of having it to honorary retirement now, with my grand grand father watch, (Soviet “Luch”).
Good review, but it’s seiko that really annoys me. It’s there hardlex crystal and bracelets . You have to pay nearer 800-1000 pounds to get the upgrades of sapphire crystal and a decent bracelet. But we still keep buying them lol
@@the_9ent I totally agree, they do make some beautiful watches! But I think sometimes they just rely on there name and history a bit to much. Other younger watch brands are producing good if not sometimes better quality watches for less
Seagull make good movements and they are Chinese, also plenty a Chinese companies use Seiko movements and they come with sapphire glass yet are still very cheap compared to Japanese brands.
I have a sapphire coated mineral crystal watch and I find it way worse than a simple mineral crystal because sapphire coated still scratches almost as easily but you can’t polish the scratches out. With a simple mineral crystal all you need is some polywatch
Question guys... out the door $664 for a grey market watch or $750 for the same watch from an authorized dealer? I’m looking to buy the Hamilton Khaki pilot day date interstellar. Or should I be looking eBay used for a $200 savings?
I'm currently stuck in decision😱: Casiden dress watch, Vostok Amphibia, pangani design, Orient, a submainer homage?? I'd really like a "one for all occasion" watch... free Spinnaker givaway would relieve the tension😌
If you can stretch for an Orient Kamasu, I think that makes a great do anything watch. If you're trying to stay around $100 the Pagani Design sub homage seems like a pretty good way to go. Haven't seen one in person yet but have one on its way to check out.
@@JusttheWatch trying to stay under $200. Aargon is having a crazy sale now, not really big on their designs.. had my eye on Pagani Design pd-1645 (Rolex homage) or the PD-1649 (spinnaker homage?) May sacrifice on crystal, but usually have Seagull or Seiko movement.
Japanese Quartz, a pretty reliable movement...with a Jack Mason watch in the background, I'm pretty sure second hand was accurately hitting 'between' every marker
@@JusttheWatch Ah! Sorry, watch collecting newbie here. That totally makes sense. Though that makes me wonder, how something like that can pass QC? OK Jack Mason is not luxury, but they claim to be premium, if Casio can do it on a $50 watch......
@@GodIsInHisHeaven it's actually almost impossible to line a quartz second hand up perfectly by hand, so unless it's totally off its not really a sign of poor quality. The only way to get it perfect is with machine assembly.
I can't really agree with the first point. Of course, sapphire is better than mineral, but I have mineral crystals on half of my watches and I haven't yet scratched any of them in several years of wearing. And I can't say I was extra careful with them
Question, I’ve a Omega Speedmaster (not the professional) and it hasn’t a sapphire crystal! However I’ve never had a scratch on that watch (I actually damaged the crystal but it was worst than a scratch - however they polished it and it is perfect). Since I’m not that careful (the case has a dent, for example) which kind of crystal does my Speedmaster has?
Sounds like Hesalite, which is a kind of acrylic that they used for the NASA approved versions of the Speed master. It's supposed to scratch easy, but be very resistant to shattering, and also easy to polish out scratches.
Chinese quartz movements are fine. Their mechanicals... well, that can be debated but quartz movements have littlle to no moving parts and will generally last at least five years.
How about "fashionable"? i.e. if the word appears anywhere in the ad copy, don't buy the watch? Sure, you'll miss a few good choices and maybe even a bargain or two, but overall this advice prevents mistakes
I recently got this casio edifice efr-s107. It says 100m on the dial but had a snap on back and no screw down crown. Do you think it will be fine if i take it swimming?
Casio is generally pretty trust worthy. It's pretty common for 100m watches to not have screw down crowns, but the snap case back seems a little iffy. Still, if Casio rated it 100m that means they're confident it will be fine in water.
@@JusttheWatch Thanks! The snap back is what bothers me. Although casio and 100m rated I don't think i would be confident to take it in water, but still pulled the trigger on it as it has a sapphire crystal. I got it for about $80. The watch looks great too. I just hope it lasts and water doesn't cause any trouble.
Like I said, there's exceptions... And the thrust of this was not so much, if a watch is lacking these things it's a bad watch, but a watch that has these things is likely a good watch.
Well, that watch specifically has a plastic crystal that is coated with sicralan, which (slightly) prevents scratches, but also makes fixing the scratches with polywatch impossible. So... the max bill does have a very significant downside. If you wear it seldom, it's probably fine. Is it your first, day-to-day last-for-decades watch? It's not a good choice.
@@JusttheWatch I was indeed being facetious, but be careful that people will pass on a perfectly good Seiko SRPE53 because it has no sapphire with lists like these. I certainly don't agree that a watch needs 50m water resistance and a sapphire crystal. For example, I prefer a plexi crystal on dress watches because there is no glare whatsoever. None. You can put sapphire on a Max Bill, but to me, that just completely ruins it. A better thing to put on the list is to ask whether the company uses marketing tactics like 'cutting out the middle man', 'affordable luxury' and if the strap is any good. Those are way better ways to see if a watch is a ripoff than to check for sapphire.
@@ElijsDima It's not meant to be a daily. But if you want it as a daily, you could put a sapphire crystal on it. It's an option, I just don't want it. But plexi doesn't make it bad. My point was more that these specs give newcomers a skewed look of what a good watch is. They'll skip watches because they have 30m water resistance or a perfectly fine Seagull movement. He's not teaching them, he's telling them what to think.
@@StuntpilootStef Plexi covered by something that can’t be polished absolutely does make it bad. A Max Bill with a curved acrylic glass been on my shopping list for a while but news of this coating might just put an end to that.
8:42 "You get what you pay for" - unless in my experience it's a Swiss watch, then you get what you paid for once you've paid enough. Don't buy a cheap Swiss watch, you'll regret it.
I guess it's the same effect you have with certain car brands. A BMW 3-series is made in Germany, the cheaper ones not, and there's a significant difference in build quality... to the point where you're buying a generic product with an expensive logo stamped on it.
Majority of their watches have day/date which is annoying, and then their super nice looking dress watches usually just have mineral crystal, no sapphire :(
A red flag is watches that only come on leather straps. Metal bracelet have to be specific to the watch you can't just cookie cutter it. A lot of cheap watches come on cheap leather straps and will market them has high end even though genuine leather is the lowest quality of leather.
It was simple to make a choose to purchase a "right" watch, specialy for the new beginner. Don't be overwhelmed from the images of some online unfamiliar brands that without research. You can play it safe as waited for the sale or some good offers if you purchase in your local well known jewelry store. You will never get wrong if go for the enter grade with Japanese brands likes Seiko, Citizen (likes Toyota or Mazda in cars maker ) , or Hamilton, Tissot from Swiss( likes VW or Renault) whether quartz or mechanical, sapphire or mineral, stainless steel or titanium, they were always there with the good reputation that you can trusted in their history to make the Best Buy.
The problem with China is that there's such a huge range in quality. On the high end China can definitely keep up, but the low end of Chinese movements and manufacturing is way lower than Swiss and Japanese.
@@JusttheWatch China offers plenty of other things besides cheap objects.and when you see how they managed the pandemic compared to europe there is something to wonder about the 'made in china'
Good points. There can be some debate on on point or another, but especially for newcomers, these things are very good as general guidelines.
Great points and I am looking forward to the second installment. Sometimes you will hear brands defending mineral crystal by mentioning sapphire is more likely to crack and therefore, a better option. It is technically true (which can make it a useful marketing tactic), but in all the pieces we made for the military, the difference in instances of our K1 mineral pieces cracking, vs sapphire, was very small. For the average watch wearer the difference would be negligible if not non existent.
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Glycine is a very underated company, reasonably priced, sapphire crystal- yes, they were bought out by Invicta but operate on their own.
I still think that if some Chinese brands can put Sapphire in 25€ quartz watches (proven, not a marketing lie) Seiko has no excuse selling 200+ watches with mineral.
Totally. If Seiko came out today as a new brand, it wouldn’t last long on the specs they offer.
@@the_9ent I think you’re absolutely right! 🤔
@@the_9ent Completely agree with there.
really?! 25 euros for a sapphire glass quartz watch? Do you have to buy this in bulk on alibaba or something? Can you share a link?
@@GodIsInHisHeaven
There are a few models, would have to dig those up. It's not very crazy though, a generic flat sapphire crystal without AR coating may be down to 5-10€ a piece at this point if you buy in bulk. Entry level Japanese quartz movements costs about 1€, case and dial are pretty basic on a minimalist dress watch so...
Dave certainly leaves no stone unturned with his insights! Appreciate how every single video is packed with relevant info. Many of my watch purchases are literally based on the opinions of this channel.
Thumbs up for creating the most kickass horology channel on RUclips.
Regards
Alawhie
South Africa
Thanks Alawhie!
@@JusttheWatch it's a pleasure Dave. Keep up the excellent work. We are all looking forward to the next video 🙂
Go Dave!!!!
Hamilton is great value for the quality you get. I just got the Khaki Field Auto 38mm... it's a beauty
Agreed. I have a Pan Europ and it's pretty much on my wrist every day.
Couldn't agree more! Those 4 specs are great for a good watch.
However, the more I've been learning/buying, the more there is to it. As you say, you can get a Chinese watch with all those specs for under $100. And although great value, quality can be lacking. So as a 5th point, I would add Quality (Control): something you can't see on a spec sheet unfortunately. But adding a 'Made in Japan/Germany/Swiss' does ensure a level of QC. A 6th point would be design. There are so many ripoffs out there, or watches that simply have something off about their design. So, I would consider these:
- Japanese/Swiss movement
- sapphire
- stainless steel
- 50+m WR
- quality control
- good, original design
Great guide for beginners Dave, the hardest one for me to accept on a budget option is the alloy metal case. No telling how long that coating will hold up and then it’s pretty much ruined after that. Looking forward to more! 😎🍻👍
Very nice job of explaining the minimum specs required when purchasing a watch. You covered all the bases. My last couple of watches have been in the $300-$400 range, and in addition to the specs you’ve identified I look for a watch to have a Power Reserve of 70-80 hours; and to be accurate within 5-7 seconds/day, and a smooth operating crown which can be turned without any gritty feeling. I can’t stand owning a watch that can’t keep time! I bought a Seiko Presage Cocktail Watch and returned it as it lost around 15-25 seconds daily. Anyway, you’ve done a very good job in putting together some very useful information for anyone in the hunt for a watch. Keep up the good work...Ed
I have a watch I have been wearing for 20 years and the Sapphire crystal does not have a single scratch.
Which watch and brand is it and how much did you pay?
The watch is a W1 6000 made by Raymond Weil.
The W1 watches have been discontinued
I paid £230 for it, but it was reduced from £350
I have seen the same watch for sale recently on eBay for around £250
That's a good guide and I would include lug-to-lug length as it will determine how well the watch sits on the wrist.
Really enjoyed the way you approached it, Dave. Looking forward to part 2
Hi, Dave. Thanks for the show. Good input for beginners. Keep up the good work. May I suggest a simple improvement? You speak to me, the viewer, in the clips. But you look beside me. It seems as you are looking at my left ear. It’s a bit annoying to watch at length, when the speaker doesn’t look you in the eyes, but slighty past you. So please check where the recording lens is located, so that you can focus on that. Would improve your films a bit.
Interesting content. Enjoyed it. Wear your pieces in good health. Regards.
Excellent advice - I'd add a screw down crown, at least for anything other than a dress watch. I've found that this additional feature really narrows down the field, but it very much increases my peace of mind for a daily wear watch. And I might be the exception, but I've had more bad luck with Swiss movements than Japanese, and now avoid them if possible. They cost more up front, cost more to service, and like I said, at least for me, have proven less durable and reliable.
Well i havent seen any of your videos yet just subscribed yesterday.
Actually just seeing you makes me feel more happy your aura the energy is really very very positive.
Just be like this.
Your eyes and the way u talk is really charismatic.
Lots of love from India Sir.
This is a fantastic video for people getting into watch collecting. Very well said Dave 😊👍
Great video, second one in a row of yours I just watched! Subscribed!
Another pointer: "Stainless steel caseback" is advertising-speak that means the watch has an alloy case.
Or resin (with a chrome coating) in case of some digital ones.
Another great video Dave. Very useful tips!!
Good vid, nice and simple for those new to the hobby and all fours are essential to consider
6:05 I just bought the boderry windmill yesterday and now seeing it on this....goosebumps 👌
What about Pagani design submariner homage? It has seiko NH35 movement, saphire crystal and a ceramic bezel for around 70$.
for me homage watch is just 'fakewatch'
@@champagnejunior I'm not buying a homage to flex that i have the real thing, the pagani submariner homege is just the only way to get the tesign of the submariner with good specs for less than 100$.
@@Luceked you have the right to think that an automatic watch at 100 € is good
@@champagnejunior Its good enough for my budget.
I live in Poland, an average salary in Poland is less than 1000$ so if we asume living costs to be 0$ even then an average Polish person would need to work a year to buy a Rolex submariner.
A good show for this time of year.
I heard I can get a fancy Italian watch, which is affordable luxury and they have cut out the middle man, I can buy direct and save thousands compared to a high street luxury watch.
That sounds too good to be true...
Best watch channel. 💪🏼
I completely agree with you, although I have only a year of collecting watches.
Mostly agree! Though if it's something unique like a micro rotor or a low price GMT I would say Chinese movements are a good option.
Thanks for the 4 things for good watches. My main problem for a daily wear is that I have a high contrast dial in a Miltary style. This means about 90% of the watches or even more do not have Arabic Numerals. Mostly in the past that means cheap timex in the $30.00 to $50 range. Other qualities I want are Time, date, and maybe day but no external buttons and a screw down crown. I don's swim, or wear my watch bathing, showering, washing dishes or working directly where I immerse my hand in water but do like watches that are water proof or resistant to 100m or more. I am amazed to see many watches restored that are older then I am (I am 79 and wear glasses.) Readability is a big factor, so miltary or weekeander style. timex for $30.00 which can be replaced severals times or more expensive watches that endure. That is the choice.
Great info. Well presented. Thanks! !
Great video. Nice that at the end you mentioned that there are very decent affordable watches with mineral crystal that are worth the money. For Many of us the sapphire crystal is still a luxury. If looking for a reputable brand, with a nice diver style watch with sapphire crystal, the Kamasu is a very nice and somewhat affordable way in.
Stay safe and best regards from México!!!
Citizen Nighthawk is one of my favorite watches I own, and it has a mineral crystal.
Good rules of thumb. Only exception is Vostok. Good watches, Russian movement and acrylic crystal - but really good for the price.
I bought a tritium carnival watch with Japanese qaurtz movement.I have had it for five years the most accurate watch i have ever owned.Got the tritium automatic as well.
Hi sir 😊 i am new to your channel can you suggest some brands that is affordable for a lowbudget. Thank you.. I learned a lot from your channel.. More videos 😍
I choose watches by looking at reviews (of course;) but also like i choose plants in a garden center. I walk around and at some point a plant pops into view that your eyes are drawn to for some reason. So you choose it almost unconsciously. If a watch keeps drawing you in, go check the specs and reviews of course.
Also my personal minimal demands:
Sapphire crystal
Solid links, with lots of options to set them
No fashion brand, get a real watch brand
Prefer microbrands because it's quite often a low amount of watches so more unique and they need to get sales so do well.
Eta movements are awesome (tip: compare prices with same eta movement watches, shows you overpriced vs properly priced)
316 steel or titanium (check grade!)
Have fun!
Exception to the 'case rule' being Vostoks - often brass case ... and obviously bronze watch cases, titanium etc.
A nice set of guidelines - above all, for people who are still not that knowledgeable about watches. I can imagine someone just approaching the rabbit hole that is AliExpress, where you can find anything from $1 cheap quartzs to real tourbillons, and it can indeed be a bit confusing.
Fox always know what he is talking about ;) Good video!
Great advice Dave.
i would add one thing: if you can't find what movement exactly is in the watch, then you shouldn't buy it. If manufacturer is ashamed of the movement he used, it is not good movement.
The phrase sweep smoothly is a huge misnomer and probably causes lots of confusion for newbies.
If I saw a cleaner sweeping a floor in the style of a mechanical watch’s second hand I’d be calling for an ambulance.
I plan to buy the watch I want. Should I buy now or wait until next year? I heard most of the watches price will mostly go down in January.
Hi! Congratulations for your channel. Learning a lot!
Do you have an opinion about NIXON brand watches?
Thanks
I generally like Nixon watches, if you can get them at a discount. I think for the full retail price there are much better options.
@@JusttheWatch I'm following their field model (Patrol Leather black), for some time. I simply love the modern/classic style (42mm case, with the inner bezel, etc...).
Can you tell me 2 or 3 alternatives? Thank you very much 🙏🏼
@@JusttheWatch And even being diferent watches, but talking about quality and durability, what do you think about the NIXON FIELD PATROL LEATHER and SEIKO 5 GMT SSK001?
I wear tissot prc200 sapphire crystal since 2010 , braslet was torn twice , bezel is full of scratches, I chop wood, carry water, dig holes, I do everything in them - the glass is as good as new. I abused my watch heavily , and thinking of having it to honorary retirement now, with my grand grand father watch, (Soviet “Luch”).
Good review, but it’s seiko that really annoys me. It’s there hardlex crystal and bracelets . You have to pay nearer 800-1000 pounds to get the upgrades of sapphire crystal and a decent bracelet. But we still keep buying them lol
I think that’s because of their long history and the fact they make some killer designs. I don’t think anyone buys Seiko for specs.
@@the_9ent I totally agree, they do make some beautiful watches! But I think sometimes they just rely on there name and history a bit to much. Other younger watch brands are producing good if not sometimes better quality watches for less
I don't keep buying them. Except for their skx divers.
@@elmoelms2743
Also true, all those micro brands.. Helson, Armida, Zelos, Formex, Monta, Meccaniche Veneziane, Helm, etc etc
@@peterspaepen2861 have you been looking at my watch collection, you’ve just described my second watch box lol
very informative! thank you!!
I was considering to give you the Patek Philippe 5270-P as a gift, but it is only 30m WR, so I'll send you a card instead.
Or you know, a Rolex is fine too.
@@JusttheWatch 😅
hello!
Great 👍🏻 video in my opinion!!! Congrats
Good info. Looking forward to part 2????
Great and unique topic!
Late to see this video, but enjoying it. Are German movements in your opinion in the same discussion as Swiss or Japanese?
Not in the affordable price range. I believe the least expensive German movement you'll find is from Nomos. Don't quote me on that though.
I am wearing a Citizen. Too bad it only has a titanium case. I guess that it is sub-par. Next time I will go for stainless, which is cheaper too. ;)
Seagull make good movements and they are Chinese, also plenty a Chinese companies use Seiko movements and they come with sapphire glass yet are still very cheap compared to Japanese brands.
Chinese special- $29.95, Nakzen, Sapphire, solid end links. Probable Chinese dumping below cost. The US doesn't seem to care about watch dumping.
I have a sapphire coated mineral crystal watch and I find it way worse than a simple mineral crystal because sapphire coated still scratches almost as easily but you can’t polish the scratches out. With a simple mineral crystal all you need is some polywatch
Great job! Thank you
Question guys... out the door $664 for a grey market watch or $750 for the same watch from an authorized dealer? I’m looking to buy the Hamilton Khaki pilot day date interstellar. Or should I be looking eBay used for a $200 savings?
I'm currently stuck in decision😱: Casiden dress watch, Vostok Amphibia, pangani design, Orient, a submainer homage?? I'd really like a "one for all occasion" watch... free Spinnaker givaway would relieve the tension😌
If you can stretch for an Orient Kamasu, I think that makes a great do anything watch. If you're trying to stay around $100 the Pagani Design sub homage seems like a pretty good way to go. Haven't seen one in person yet but have one on its way to check out.
@@JusttheWatch trying to stay under $200. Aargon is having a crazy sale now, not really big on their designs.. had my eye on Pagani Design pd-1645 (Rolex homage) or the PD-1649 (spinnaker homage?) May sacrifice on crystal, but usually have Seagull or Seiko movement.
Japanese Quartz, a pretty reliable movement...with a Jack Mason watch in the background, I'm pretty sure second hand was accurately hitting 'between' every marker
That actually has nothing to do with the movement and everything to do with the guy installing the hands.
@@JusttheWatch Ah! Sorry, watch collecting newbie here. That totally makes sense. Though that makes me wonder, how something like that can pass QC? OK Jack Mason is not luxury, but they claim to be premium, if Casio can do it on a $50 watch......
@@GodIsInHisHeaven it's actually almost impossible to line a quartz second hand up perfectly by hand, so unless it's totally off its not really a sign of poor quality. The only way to get it perfect is with machine assembly.
I can't really agree with the first point. Of course, sapphire is better than mineral, but I have mineral crystals on half of my watches and I haven't yet scratched any of them in several years of wearing. And I can't say I was extra careful with them
me it's the opposite, I have watches with mineral and sapphire and both have claws
Who makes that watch case/winder on your desk? It looks just right for my 6 watch collection.
Ahh. I just saw your other video on that case.
Question, I’ve a Omega Speedmaster (not the professional) and it hasn’t a sapphire crystal! However I’ve never had a scratch on that watch (I actually damaged the crystal but it was worst than a scratch - however they polished it and it is perfect). Since I’m not that careful (the case has a dent, for example) which kind of crystal does my Speedmaster has?
Sounds like Hesalite, which is a kind of acrylic that they used for the NASA approved versions of the Speed master. It's supposed to scratch easy, but be very resistant to shattering, and also easy to polish out scratches.
Chinese quartz movements are fine. Their mechanicals... well, that can be debated but quartz movements have littlle to no moving parts and will generally last at least five years.
The certina at 6:33 looks nice, will you be reviewing it?
Yeah! Probably in January sometime.
Aren't the Chinese Seagull movements good enough?
What do you think about this Orient FAC05001B0?
How about "fashionable"? i.e. if the word appears anywhere in the ad copy, don't buy the watch? Sure, you'll miss a few good choices and maybe even a bargain or two, but overall this advice prevents mistakes
I recently got this casio edifice efr-s107. It says 100m on the dial but had a snap on back and no screw down crown. Do you think it will be fine if i take it swimming?
Casio is generally pretty trust worthy. It's pretty common for 100m watches to not have screw down crowns, but the snap case back seems a little iffy. Still, if Casio rated it 100m that means they're confident it will be fine in water.
@@JusttheWatch Thanks! The snap back is what bothers me. Although casio and 100m rated I don't think i would be confident to take it in water, but still pulled the trigger on it as it has a sapphire crystal. I got it for about $80. The watch looks great too. I just hope it lasts and water doesn't cause any trouble.
I can’t find the second part 😢
thky again great job.
Seiko Samurai is the best....
what is the watch in thumbnail? the one with the tick?
It's the black dial versions of this watch
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A signed crown is usually also a good sign.
Lol XD russian and china movement shot down straightaway. Imma waiting for my komandierski to arrive
So I guess my Junghans Max Bill is terrible then, good to know /s
Like I said, there's exceptions... And the thrust of this was not so much, if a watch is lacking these things it's a bad watch, but a watch that has these things is likely a good watch.
Well, that watch specifically has a plastic crystal that is coated with sicralan, which (slightly) prevents scratches, but also makes fixing the scratches with polywatch impossible. So... the max bill does have a very significant downside. If you wear it seldom, it's probably fine. Is it your first, day-to-day last-for-decades watch? It's not a good choice.
@@JusttheWatch I was indeed being facetious, but be careful that people will pass on a perfectly good Seiko SRPE53 because it has no sapphire with lists like these. I certainly don't agree that a watch needs 50m water resistance and a sapphire crystal. For example, I prefer a plexi crystal on dress watches because there is no glare whatsoever. None. You can put sapphire on a Max Bill, but to me, that just completely ruins it.
A better thing to put on the list is to ask whether the company uses marketing tactics like 'cutting out the middle man', 'affordable luxury' and if the strap is any good. Those are way better ways to see if a watch is a ripoff than to check for sapphire.
@@ElijsDima It's not meant to be a daily. But if you want it as a daily, you could put a sapphire crystal on it. It's an option, I just don't want it. But plexi doesn't make it bad. My point was more that these specs give newcomers a skewed look of what a good watch is. They'll skip watches because they have 30m water resistance or a perfectly fine Seagull movement. He's not teaching them, he's telling them what to think.
@@StuntpilootStef Plexi covered by something that can’t be polished absolutely does make it bad. A Max Bill with a curved acrylic glass been on my shopping list for a while but news of this coating might just put an end to that.
Include ball in part 2!
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I'd rather have acrylic than mineral crystal. Almost all of my mineral crystal watches have scratches and even cracks or holes.
I like acrylic. Somehow they look a bit warmer. And scratches are not hard to remove.
8:42 "You get what you pay for" - unless in my experience it's a Swiss watch, then you get what you paid for once you've paid enough. Don't buy a cheap Swiss watch, you'll regret it.
exactly! Swiss watch does not mean anything
I guess it's the same effect you have with certain car brands. A BMW 3-series is made in Germany, the cheaper ones not, and there's a significant difference in build quality... to the point where you're buying a generic product with an expensive logo stamped on it.
Swiss made has certain requirements. If I recall, must use 60% Swiss parts and final assembly in Switzerland.
Aragon and Orient are great value watches.......
Or in other words, just buy an orient. Best bang for the bucks for any watch category.
Yup no matter how I end up with 3 orient
Awesome movements. I was able to regulate one to 0,8s+/d.
Majority of their watches have day/date which is annoying, and then their super nice looking dress watches usually just have mineral crystal, no sapphire :(
@@GodIsInHisHeaven that is true but in terms of movement and trustworthiness it still a good bargain for a watch under $300
Oh man that thumbnail lol
A red flag is watches that only come on leather straps. Metal bracelet have to be specific to the watch you can't just cookie cutter it. A lot of cheap watches come on cheap leather straps and will market them has high end even though genuine leather is the lowest quality of leather.
I've seen $300 watches that are not stainless steel (some ion-plated silver) and not even sapphire crystal. I can't believe the audacity. 😑
It was simple to make a choose to purchase a "right" watch, specialy for the new beginner.
Don't be overwhelmed from the images of some online unfamiliar brands that without research.
You can play it safe as waited for the sale or some good offers if you purchase in your local well known jewelry store.
You will never get wrong if go for the enter grade with Japanese brands likes Seiko, Citizen (likes Toyota or Mazda in cars maker ) , or Hamilton, Tissot from Swiss( likes VW or Renault) whether quartz or mechanical, sapphire or mineral, stainless steel or titanium, they were always there with the good reputation that you can trusted in their history to make the Best Buy.
it's been 15 years at least that china and japan are at the same level see even higher than europe
The problem with China is that there's such a huge range in quality. On the high end China can definitely keep up, but the low end of Chinese movements and manufacturing is way lower than Swiss and Japanese.
@@JusttheWatch China offers plenty of other things besides cheap objects.and when you see how they managed the pandemic compared to europe there is something to wonder about the 'made in china'
Great channel, great content, awesome person. You got a sub and a friend in me :)
Thanks man!
Couldn’t you have made this a week earlier?
Edit: good I have atleast 2.
your intro was too long..haha
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Nice.
Reddit nerd.
@@PlyzmP I dont even have a reddit account.
This guy knows nothing about German, French, Russian, etc movements. Switzerland, Japan, China are not the only watch makers.
This is a beginners guide, save those for intermediate...