Why not not just tell it how it is 😮 it's immigrants full stop who else would it be it's only got this bad since the last couple of years or so 😢 the govts are to blame know one else get real 😮😢😊😊😊
Banning these items will only penalise people who have legitimate reasons to own an axe or a machete. They are tools. Prisoners aren't allowed to have knives either, but they sure as hell know how to make them out of literally anything. Make them illegal and then watch as home-made knives become the tool of choice, along with an increase in acid attacks. The tool is not the problem, the cultural mindset of the people who use them as weapons is.
Tools first. Like when they start banning knives criminals will use other things to kill and harm and when they get banned they look for something else. Where is it going to stop won’t be allowed anything.its unfair for the law abiding people who have it for work or they collect them as hobbies.
Unfortunately the "sound bites" are prevalent again, carrying a fixed blade is ALREADY required to have a good defence or reason, the "who needs a " is solely a phrase used to knee jerk a quick fix which still will not make a lasting effect...the suppliers who sell the items I would hope have done a proper age check, used the relevant postal service with AGE CHECK at the address, all these steps were consulted on the previous Weapons Act 2019 , sec 139 139Offence of having article with blade or point in public place.E+W (1)Subject to subsections (4) and (5) below, any person who has an article to which this section applies with him in a public place shall be guilty of an offence. (2)Subject to subsection (3) below, this section applies to any article which has a blade or is sharply pointed except a folding pocketknife. (3)This section applies to a folding pocketknife if the cutting edge of its blade exceeds 3 inches. (4)It shall be a defence for a person charged with an offence under this section to prove that he had good reason or lawful authority for having the article with him in a public place. (5)Without prejudice to the generality of subsection (4) above, it shall be a defence for a person charged with an offence under this section to prove that he had the article with him- (a)for use at work; (b)for religious reasons; or (c)as part of any national costume. (6)A person guilty of an offence under subsection (1) above shall be liable- F1 [( a )on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months, or a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum, or both; (b)on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding [F2four] years, or a fine, or both.] and for the postal service and age checks I personally have had to contact my local authority to explain my 3 step process which may also include a real time video call, however , for the act... Age verification The Act does not prescribe a specific age verification system that the seller must have in place. It is up to sellers to make a decision on whether the system they use meets the requirement that it ‘is likely to prevent persons under the age of 18 from buying such articles by that method’[footnote 11]. In store age verification: Sellers might decide to adopt their existing ‘Think 21’ or ‘Think 25’ policies to ensure that anyone who appears to be below the age of 21 or 25 must provide acceptable identification before making the purchase, such as a passport, driving licence or other valid form of identification. This approach will also mean that visual assessment is sufficient for anyone who is clearly over the ages of 21 or 25. Remote age verification: There are a range of age verification processes or systems available, and the government was clear during the passage of the legislation that it did not want to issue standards for systems for electronic age verification as decisions on which systems to procure and use are a matter for the seller and for them to determine whether they meet the requirements of the Act. It is for the seller to decide what system works best for their business model and will allow them to demonstrate that they took all reasonable precautions and exercised all due diligence. The courts will be the final arbiter as to whether the seller has put in place an adequate system, taking into account the particular facts in individual cases. However, it is the government’s view that the following examples used by remote sellers would not be sufficient to demonstrate that the seller had an adequate system and that robust age verification has taken place: relying on the person purchasing the item to tick a box confirming they are over 18 relying in any other way on information provided by the buyer (other than a valid form of identification) that they are over 18 without conducting additional checks using payment systems that may require the customer to be over 18 but which do not verify age at point of purchase Age verification at collection points Collection points used by sellers must comply with the requirement that the sale of a bladed article should not be made to a person under 18 by taking all reasonable precautions and exercising due diligence. The seller will also need to ensure that the package containing the article is clearly marked as containing a blade or sharply pointed article and that it should only be supplied to a person aged over 18. Consideration should be given to whether to adopt and apply ‘Think 21’ or ‘Think 25’ policies, if not already in place, to require acceptable proof of age in appropriate circumstances, whether the person collecting the article is the purchaser themselves or collecting on his or her behalf. Package labelling All packages containing a bladed article must be clearly marked to indicate that it contains a bladed article and that it should only be delivered into the hands of a person aged 18 or over. The legislation does not stipulate the type of labelling or any of its characteristics, and so sellers will need to determine how best to comply with the labelling requirement. In the government’s view, it is unlikely that electronic labels used on handheld signature devices as often used by delivery companies and couriers would satisfy the requirements of the Act. This requires that the package itself must be clearly labelled. Clear and visible labelling will be important for retail and delivery staff and couriers so that they are fully aware that the package contains an article that must not be handed to someone under 18. So even the delivery is age checked...I use machetes often, a quiet tool for the occasional hedge or garden work where I would not be running a loud trimmer etc with neighbours on shift patterns trying to sleep during the day. Whether it is a machete, a kitchen knife, a hammer or a sharpened aluminium knitting needle , carrying anything other than a under 3" non locking folder could get you in serious trouble, these gang members or loose lads on the street obviously do not care about this more than their notoriety or status within their "crew", this is the problem not a piece of inanimate steel.
This is ludicrous "There's no reason to own a machete in this country" might be true if you live in a penthouse or employ a gardener, but it's a tool. It's not a weapon, and it's something ordinary honest working people use every day. Stop trying to ban perfectly innocent objects, and start actually punishing people who misuse them to commit crimes! Soon it'll be "Who actually needs a steak knife, when we have perfectly good vegan protein shakes for you..."
1st problem , old people thinking they carry them because it's "cool" 2nd problem , Old people thinking "Banning" something stops individuals still getting them , otherwise we wouldn't be flooded with drugs. 3rd problem , thinking that the poverty and urban slums we house many of these kids in has nothing to do with the problem !
@@kappaslapper14 Re the 2nd problem, you're spot on. They see something and assume the answer is legislation, completely ignoring the fact that it's already illegal to attack someone with a machete... Plus you simply can't effectively ban something that someone can easily make in their back garden in an hour, with some very basic DIY skills. Unless of course they decide to ban steel...
knives don't kill, people do. Where do you draw the line at banning things vs targeting those who are carrying a knife for crime. A chopstick could do just as much damage if not more. It's a bit like gun crimes in the US vs Switzerland, it's culture.....
chop a few fingers off makes it difficult to hold a knife let alone use a knife effectively in the future, Plus its cheap cost effective on the public purse and lasts a lifetime job sorted 👍
This is a black problem. Most of the perpetrators and victims are younger black men. Banning machetes is stupid. A good big chef’s knife will to very well. Only available to licensed chefs? Give me a break.
It’s the whole gang culture. Drugs, alcohol, dissing people, general lack of morals - that’s just the politicians😂 Young people need to get into sports and hobbies and have positive role models around them. Also to have something in their futures to look forwards to and work towards. It’s very sad and could’ve been prevented😢
This will get worse as rather than deal with the issue we will blame access to inanimate objects, ban machetes and then they will use screwdrivers if you could ban screwdrivers something else will be used, it odd as when I was yonger and I am only in my 40s, almost all kids had locking knives and no one got stabbed, so what has happened ?, mybe its because as a society we are becoming more like an overbearing mother and its no wonder why young men are behaving the why they are
We need more "Bobbies on the beat" & into the Communities. Not sitting in rainbow coloured cars! We seem, yet again, to have accepted the worst of "American way of life" in the UK 😡. Mind you half of the police are not physically fit to even chase anyone!🤦♀️
Giving this operation a catchy name won't solve the problem. 20 years for carrying a knife without a good excuse might though. According to this man it is my responsibility and everyone else is to blame. God give me strength.
Judge the many by the few and the losses will be felt by all. The knife is the tool. Take it way and another form will be used. Treat the problem not the symptom.
Exactlly. Knives aren't exactly allowed in prisons either, but that doesn't stop them from making them out of literally anything. Ban them and watch the increase of home-made knives and acid attacks.
Because he doesn't see a need for a thing there must not be one absolutely diabolical how these people think that they are the only ones with the ability to think.
I reported a serious knife crime to the Lerwick Police in the Shetland Isles, where a 6 year old boy was held at knifepoint, by 4 men, he was stood in a basket, while one of the men filled the basket with stones up to his knees! They told me I had to get the witness to come forward! The witness doesn't want to go to the police because of their lifes issues. All the police said was, "That must have been scary!" I thought you should be a Police Officer with observation skills like that! Remember folks those 4 men should not be approached as they are armed and dangerous, and they are still at large, I recomend noone approaches these men who are still at large nearly 44 years later. And the Police are refusing to investigate this heinous crime, If anyone has any idea how I can get justice for this, then drop me a message!
1st problem , old people thinking they carry them because it's "cool" 2nd problem , Old people thinking "Banning" something stops individuals still getting them , otherwise we wouldn't be flooded with drugs. 3rd problem , thinking that the poverty and urban slums we house many of these kids in has nothing to do with the problem !
I used to go fishing. Used to go out all night. I recall going fishing but I needed to go to the bank first to get some cash to pay the fishery. So I'm in town with my fishing clothing on and put my hand into my pocket and was shocked. I had my lock knife in my pocket. I always carried a knife when fishing. It has so many uses. But the reason I was shocked was I was worried if I got stopped by the police because of the gear I was wearing, and then they found my knife. *Today, for kids, carrying a knife is a status symbol.* _My knife is bigger then your knife._
I totally agree that knife crime needs to be stamped out...HOWEVER, we must also remind ourselves that the vast majority of knife crime is committed with kitchen and utility knives, and NOT with the types of knives that were cleverly put on show in this video. I am sure that some are carried, but just because a knife looks intimidating, does not make it any more dangerous than the ]knives that are actually being carried and used, which are kitchen knives. This is totally lackadaisical of the Home Office and the press to go for a certain type of knife, when we should be tacking at the reasons why they are being used... IF we banned all knives tomorrow, it wouldnt take long for other implements to be fashioned into a bladed article. We must tackle the elephant in the room here, and do more stops and searches, and raise the penalty for carrying a bladed article in public, without good reason... Banning certain types of knives, just because they look intimidating will make absolutely no difference to knife crime figures in the UK at all. The only way to do that, is to be proactive, grow a backbone, and stop and search as a matter of course. IF caught, with no reasonable excuse, a mandatory sentence of 10 years, and if a knife is used, charge the offender with attempted murder, and not with a lesser offence ....
Instead of telling the person with the knife that he or she has been a naughty boy or girl and would you like to join me doing the Macarena or would you like a cup of tea you tell them you are getting 10 years in jail and you do 10 years no getting out after 2 because you have been good no you do the full sentence..
Why are you only showing swords. Rambo knives etc when the type of knife used in violent ctime are kitchen knives ? Oh yeah we have to use good old propoganda dont we ?
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Prisoners can make a knife out of a toothbrush. What the hell do they think banning knives will accomplish?
If only we could find a reason for the massive rise in knife crime over the last couple of years🤔🤔 🙉🦍🐒
mmmmmm! Yes, if only.
Most of us know the reason - can't say it though
Why not not just tell it how it is 😮 it's immigrants full stop who else would it be it's only got this bad since the last couple of years or so 😢 the govts are to blame know one else get real 😮😢😊😊😊
@@paulmulvey2626 BINGO !!!! The truth hurts
Banning these items will only penalise people who have legitimate reasons to own an axe or a machete. They are tools. Prisoners aren't allowed to have knives either, but they sure as hell know how to make them out of literally anything. Make them illegal and then watch as home-made knives become the tool of choice, along with an increase in acid attacks. The tool is not the problem, the cultural mindset of the people who use them as weapons is.
FULL 20 YEARS FOR CARRYING MANDATORY , THE RATS WILL SCATTER
@@lancethrust9488 What if I need a knife for work? What if I'm a gardener who needs an axe? Should everyone need a LOICENSE to carry tools?
These privalige middle England toffy nosed old giffers don't understand that. They don't live in the real world. 👍
Yes remove guns and knives become the weapon. The real problem is violence and criminals NOT the weapon of choice.
It's not knives that are the problem - it's the willingness of some people to stab someone with it
Bingo !!! Nailed it !!!
Tools first. Like when they start banning knives criminals will use other things to kill and harm and when they get banned they look for something else. Where is it going to stop won’t be allowed anything.its unfair for the law abiding people who have it for work or they collect them as hobbies.
Unfortunately the "sound bites" are prevalent again, carrying a fixed blade is ALREADY required to have a good defence or reason, the "who needs a " is solely a phrase used to knee jerk a quick fix which still will not make a lasting effect...the suppliers who sell the items I would hope have done a proper age check, used the relevant postal service with AGE CHECK at the address, all these steps were consulted on the previous Weapons Act 2019 , sec 139
139Offence of having article with blade or point in public place.E+W
(1)Subject to subsections (4) and (5) below, any person who has an article to which this section applies with him in a public place shall be guilty of an offence.
(2)Subject to subsection (3) below, this section applies to any article which has a blade or is sharply pointed except a folding pocketknife.
(3)This section applies to a folding pocketknife if the cutting edge of its blade exceeds 3 inches.
(4)It shall be a defence for a person charged with an offence under this section to prove that he had good reason or lawful authority for having the article with him in a public place.
(5)Without prejudice to the generality of subsection (4) above, it shall be a defence for a person charged with an offence under this section to prove that he had the article with him-
(a)for use at work;
(b)for religious reasons; or
(c)as part of any national costume.
(6)A person guilty of an offence under subsection (1) above shall be liable-
F1 [( a )on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months, or a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum, or both;
(b)on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding [F2four] years, or a fine, or both.]
and for the postal service and age checks I personally have had to contact my local authority to explain my 3 step process which may also include a real time video call, however , for the act...
Age verification
The Act does not prescribe a specific age verification system that the seller must have in place. It is up to sellers to make a decision on whether the system they use meets the requirement that it ‘is likely to prevent persons under the age of 18 from buying such articles by that method’[footnote 11].
In store age verification:
Sellers might decide to adopt their existing ‘Think 21’ or ‘Think 25’ policies to ensure that anyone who appears to be below the age of 21 or 25 must provide acceptable identification before making the purchase, such as a passport, driving licence or other valid form of identification. This approach will also mean that visual assessment is sufficient for anyone who is clearly over the ages of 21 or 25.
Remote age verification:
There are a range of age verification processes or systems available, and the government was clear during the passage of the legislation that it did not want to issue standards for systems for electronic age verification as decisions on which systems to procure and use are a matter for the seller and for them to determine whether they meet the requirements of the Act. It is for the seller to decide what system works best for their business model and will allow them to demonstrate that they took all reasonable precautions and exercised all due diligence.
The courts will be the final arbiter as to whether the seller has put in place an adequate system, taking into account the particular facts in individual cases. However, it is the government’s view that the following examples used by remote sellers would not be sufficient to demonstrate that the seller had an adequate system and that robust age verification has taken place:
relying on the person purchasing the item to tick a box confirming they are over 18
relying in any other way on information provided by the buyer (other than a valid form of identification) that they are over 18 without conducting additional checks
using payment systems that may require the customer to be over 18 but which do not verify age at point of purchase
Age verification at collection points
Collection points used by sellers must comply with the requirement that the sale of a bladed article should not be made to a person under 18 by taking all reasonable precautions and exercising due diligence. The seller will also need to ensure that the package containing the article is clearly marked as containing a blade or sharply pointed article and that it should only be supplied to a person aged over 18. Consideration should be given to whether to adopt and apply ‘Think 21’ or ‘Think 25’ policies, if not already in place, to require acceptable proof of age in appropriate circumstances, whether the person collecting the article is the purchaser themselves or collecting on his or her behalf.
Package labelling
All packages containing a bladed article must be clearly marked to indicate that it contains a bladed article and that it should only be delivered into the hands of a person aged 18 or over. The legislation does not stipulate the type of labelling or any of its characteristics, and so sellers will need to determine how best to comply with the labelling requirement.
In the government’s view, it is unlikely that electronic labels used on handheld signature devices as often used by delivery companies and couriers would satisfy the requirements of the Act. This requires that the package itself must be clearly labelled. Clear and visible labelling will be important for retail and delivery staff and couriers so that they are fully aware that the package contains an article that must not be handed to someone under 18.
So even the delivery is age checked...I use machetes often, a quiet tool for the occasional hedge or garden work where I would not be running a loud trimmer etc with neighbours on shift patterns trying to sleep during the day. Whether it is a machete, a kitchen knife, a hammer or a sharpened aluminium knitting needle , carrying anything other than a under 3" non locking folder could get you in serious trouble, these gang members or loose lads on the street obviously do not care about this more than their notoriety or status within their "crew", this is the problem not a piece of inanimate steel.
Machete is a tool. If you go into heavily wooded areas or have to deal with overgrown gardens it’s very handy.
Some groups of people it is normal to carry knives where they come from.
Sadiqs happy that's the main thing
This is ludicrous "There's no reason to own a machete in this country" might be true if you live in a penthouse or employ a gardener, but it's a tool.
It's not a weapon, and it's something ordinary honest working people use every day.
Stop trying to ban perfectly innocent objects, and start actually punishing people who misuse them to commit crimes!
Soon it'll be "Who actually needs a steak knife, when we have perfectly good vegan protein shakes for you..."
1st problem , old people thinking they carry them because it's "cool"
2nd problem , Old people thinking "Banning" something stops individuals still getting them , otherwise we wouldn't be flooded with drugs.
3rd problem , thinking that the poverty and urban slums we house many of these kids in has nothing to do with the problem !
@@kappaslapper14 Re the 2nd problem, you're spot on.
They see something and assume the answer is legislation, completely ignoring the fact that it's already illegal to attack someone with a machete...
Plus you simply can't effectively ban something that someone can easily make in their back garden in an hour, with some very basic DIY skills.
Unless of course they decide to ban steel...
knives don't kill, people do. Where do you draw the line at banning things vs targeting those who are carrying a knife for crime. A chopstick could do just as much damage if not more. It's a bit like gun crimes in the US vs Switzerland, it's culture.....
People carry knifes because they want to live... if everyone is carrying knifes then you have to aswel!!!!
The stop, stop and search ‘community’ would rather these knives were back on the streets!
chop a few fingers off makes it difficult to hold a knife let alone use a knife effectively in the future, Plus its cheap cost effective on the public purse and lasts a lifetime job sorted 👍
This is a black problem. Most of the perpetrators and victims are younger black men. Banning machetes is stupid. A good big chef’s knife will to very well. Only available to licensed chefs? Give me a break.
You need to protect your own life... "I'd rather be judged by 12 then carried by 6"
Typical stupid comment, only cowards carry knives.
@@RaveShaman What a stupid comment!
You could kill someone with a sharp stick.. do we ban sticks ?
😂😂😂exactly
So that's it, then. That's their one week of proper policing for the year.
It’s the whole gang culture. Drugs, alcohol, dissing people, general lack of morals - that’s just the politicians😂
Young people need to get into sports and hobbies and have positive role models around them. Also to have something in their futures to look forwards to and work towards. It’s very sad and could’ve been prevented😢
This will get worse as rather than deal with the issue we will blame access to inanimate objects, ban machetes and then they will use screwdrivers if you could ban screwdrivers something else will be used, it odd as when I was yonger and I am only in my 40s, almost all kids had locking knives and no one got stabbed, so what has happened ?, mybe its because as a society we are becoming more like an overbearing mother and its no wonder why young men are behaving the why they are
We need more "Bobbies on the beat" & into the Communities. Not sitting in rainbow coloured cars! We seem, yet again, to have accepted the worst of "American way of life" in the UK 😡.
Mind you half of the police are not physically fit to even chase anyone!🤦♀️
Giving this operation a catchy name won't solve the problem. 20 years for carrying a knife without a good excuse might though. According to this man it is my responsibility and everyone else is to blame. God give me strength.
i prefer to go with chopping fingers off , more cost effective for the public purse in the long run
Knife crime mostly in Londonistan .......but.🤫🤫🤫
Aren’t Black people great ?
Judge the many by the few and the losses will be felt by all. The knife is the tool. Take it way and another form will be used. Treat the problem not the symptom.
Exactlly. Knives aren't exactly allowed in prisons either, but that doesn't stop them from making them out of literally anything. Ban them and watch the increase of home-made knives and acid attacks.
It will never stop, they have imported thousands of people to who using a knife is the norm in their countries.
Most nightcrime are kitchen knives
Why is there still not a minimum sentence for carrying a knife? Start at 5 years and then increase it on 2nd, 3rd etc offence
There is, but judges won't give it
@@tanfosbery1153 there is no minimum sentence currently. There is a maximum and that’s not the same thing.
Because he doesn't see a need for a thing there must not be one absolutely diabolical how these people think that they are the only ones with the ability to think.
I reported a serious knife crime to the Lerwick Police in the Shetland Isles, where a 6 year old boy was held at knifepoint, by 4 men, he was stood in a basket, while one of the men filled the basket with stones up to his knees! They told me I had to get the witness to come forward! The witness doesn't want to go to the police because of their lifes issues. All the police said was, "That must have been scary!" I thought you should be a Police Officer with observation skills like that! Remember folks those 4 men should not be approached as they are armed and dangerous, and they are still at large, I recomend noone approaches these men who are still at large nearly 44 years later. And the Police are refusing to investigate this heinous crime, If anyone has any idea how I can get justice for this, then drop me a message!
1st problem , old people thinking they carry them because it's "cool"
2nd problem , Old people thinking "Banning" something stops individuals still getting them , otherwise we wouldn't be flooded with drugs.
3rd problem , thinking that the poverty and urban slums we house many of these kids in has nothing to do with the problem !
I used to go fishing. Used to go out all night.
I recall going fishing but I needed to go to the bank first to get some cash to pay the fishery.
So I'm in town with my fishing clothing on and put my hand into my pocket and was shocked. I had my lock knife in my pocket.
I always carried a knife when fishing. It has so many uses.
But the reason I was shocked was I was worried if I got stopped by the police because of the gear I was wearing, and then they found my knife.
*Today, for kids, carrying a knife is a status symbol.* _My knife is bigger then your knife._
M8 speak ya mind you are frightened to say who is responsible for most knife crime
I totally agree that knife crime needs to be stamped out...HOWEVER, we must also remind ourselves that the vast majority of knife crime is committed with kitchen and utility knives, and NOT with the types of knives that were cleverly put on show in this video. I am sure that some are carried, but just because a knife looks intimidating, does not make it any more dangerous than the ]knives that are actually being carried and used, which are kitchen knives. This is totally lackadaisical of the Home Office and the press to go for a certain type of knife, when we should be tacking at the reasons why they are being used... IF we banned all knives tomorrow, it wouldnt take long for other implements to be fashioned into a bladed article. We must tackle the elephant in the room here, and do more stops and searches, and raise the penalty for carrying a bladed article in public, without good reason... Banning certain types of knives, just because they look intimidating will make absolutely no difference to knife crime figures in the UK at all. The only way to do that, is to be proactive, grow a backbone, and stop and search as a matter of course. IF caught, with no reasonable excuse, a mandatory sentence of 10 years, and if a knife is used, charge the offender with attempted murder, and not with a lesser offence ....
Instead of telling the person with the knife that he or she has been a naughty boy or girl and would you like to join me doing the Macarena or would you like a cup of tea you tell them you are getting 10 years in jail and you do 10 years no getting out after 2 because you have been good no you do the full sentence..
Tories could do this with the work-dodging bowling green pensioners. They could call it Operation Forty Winks.
LMFAO What a joke , WTF did you think was going to happen SMH ....
Its a mess and inlty gonna get worse
Crack down, not the noun crackdown.
Why are you only showing swords. Rambo knives etc when the type of knife used in violent ctime are kitchen knives ? Oh yeah we have to use good old propoganda dont we ?
When a male carries a knife it screams out to me he must be impotent.
He is impotent against lead travelling at 1,200 m/s so there is that...
Enjoy the diversity
FULL 20 YEARS FOR CARRYING MANDATORY , THE RATS WILL SCATTER