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As much as the "Golden Age of Hollywood" gets so much love, the era from 67-83 or the New Hollywood era created so many genre defining films, editing technics, and genre tropes that are still used today. Bonnie & Cylde, 2001 A Space Odyssey, In the Heat of the Night, Planet of the Apes, the Graduate, Night of the Living Dead, Midnight Cowboy, The Godfather, The Exorcist, Rocky, Taxi Driver, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Jaws, Star Wars, and Blade Runner all happened in this era and are all staples, if not originaters of their own genres.
@@AdrianForAnApplePie I did mention Jaws, but I forgot Indiana Jones; which was like an Endgame level crossover with the Jaws/Star Wars Spielberg-Lucas collab movie at the time.
@@davodshah8869 it technically ended in 1982, with ET being a gigantic cinematic shift in Hollywood, but I personally include 1983 because of Return of the Jedi capping off the Star Wars trilogy. To sum up why the era created a big cinematic shift in Hollywood, it was the era where creative control shifted from the big studios (who became more interested in making TV shows because it made more money at the time) from these individual directors creating a film with little input from the studios. You get directors like Kubrick, Scorsese, Coppola, Polanski, Spielberg, Leone, Lucas, etc. creating movies with their visions and studios didn't meddle with the product because it lead to greater acclaim and profit. And then movies like Jaws and Star Wars came and made unprecedented amount of financial success, which marked a big cinematic shift where box office success became vastly important to studios than critical success (which we're still seeing the after effects of this shift today) and how the audiences started to deem a movie a success or not. ET marked the end of this era because it became the highest grossing film ever at the time and a similar themed film released in the same year bombed and had poor critical success due to ET's giant shadow it casted over the film industry. That film was The Thing! A classic now and would've been a classic if it was released just 5 years earlier, but because of this, studios saw the profits that could be gained if you make big budget films marketed towards a big audience (ET) versus having a director have complete artistic purity over a film (The Thing). This lead to the era of the "80s action flicks" (with it's trademark cheesy humor) and the "magical family pictures" aka Spielberg-esque movies (you'll see alot of STEVEN SPIELBERG PRESENTS in the promotions).
I’ve watched this move several times and it really has never resonated. I think the often neglected but just as impactful film that really kicked off the New Hollywood era was “Who’s Afraid of Virginia Wolf”.
@@djstarsign "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf" is a movie that still haunts me. The raw cat and mouse games of George and Martha were revolutionary in American Cinema. The claustrophobic late night party is something I have experienced and I can imagine being trapped in that house with a drunken George, Martha, Nick and Honey.
I love how almost everything in film history is so coherent. German Expressionism inspires Film Noir, Film Noir inspires the Nouvelle Vague, the Nouvelle Vague inspires New Hollywood and so on. Even if Tarantino often exaggerates with his film references, what he does is nothing new.
I'd say everything in history is like that, not only in film history, but music history, art history, science history, social history, political history etc. It's just a long line of causes and consequences, one thing influencing another perpetually.
phục êwê You could say that but a lot of quality things made today like The Game of Thrones, the Young Pope or Breaking Bad are fresh and original and belong uniquely to now.
@@Flowmotion1000 If you think Game of Thrones is unique, you need to read the Niebelungenlied. If you think Breaking Bad is unique, you need to see The Wire. If you think The Godfather is revolutionary, you need to read Aeschylus. There is nothing new under the sun. Game of Thrones is indeed original, and it is indeed of it's time. But unique? new? no. There is nothing there which is not somewhere else in some form. George R. R. Martin does not have four names. He deliberately styles himself after Tolkien for a reason. He is not trying to reinvent the wheel. He is innovating on the foundations already laid by others. Please stop with this stupid myth that he is rejecting all fantasy which has gone before or tearing down the fantasy genre. Please stop crediting him with inventing something unique and new and different. He didn't. I love his work, but I'm getting real sick of his cult (and from all the evidence I've seen, I think he is too). So cut it out.
That's the nature of history , it wasn't coheasive ; it was madness + it was experiment and it was revolution , caught short , aborted , abided :absorbed..sad mad an drunk : uppers downs an cocane all around . And Batman on t.v...only the not dead get counted.
@@sophiejones7727 Exactly. I thought The Wire was something completely original until I saw Clockers. Basically what Martin did was to translate the history of England into a Low Fantasy world.
@daAnder71 true but they're also the ones that create meaning through context. Theres a reason that when directors get fed up with actors they just tell them to stop acting. The editors pick up that slack.
Mark: Dede Allen was amazing. Working with Lumet, Penn, Beatty (Reds), Philip Kaufman, etc... She even edited The Addams Family and The Wiz, not to mention Slaughterhouse-Five with George Roy Hill.
Honestly Bonnie and Clyde seems exactly like a French New Wave film to me. The only thing that's different to make it "suitable to an American audience" is that it's in English and set in America.
Can't really agree.. as much as I appreciate the new wave, watching any of Godard's films is a torture.. B&C was much more concise, fast paced and entertaining (and yes, it's a pastiche but a darn good one)
I feel like the era of Hollywood films following this film is one of the greatest eras of film. The amount of great films made in the early 70s is insane, some directors who are now considered "masters of cinema" had their breakthrough in this period and produced some of their strongest work.
I haven't seen Bonnie and Clyde in like 20 years, but it have been simmering in my mind for a while now. After this "Now you see it" episode I realize I gotta see it again soon!
Thank you. While I don't want to diminish Hollywood's role, the title does seem strange when he immediately begins to talk about the French influence. That title is too grandiose when the movie is standing on others shoulders.
It's amazing how much consistent influence there's always been to things like this. Constantly innovating ans expanding ideas and stories over the last ones without disregarding them for what they managed to accomplish; it's really awe inspiring in a way.
Also remember the Hays Code (1934-1968) which set the "moral guidelines" for movies. Bonnie and Clyde came out in 1967, right around the death of the Hays Code. It's no wonder that Bonnie and Clyde- along with other movies of the late 1960s-were revolutionary.
Wow. I didn't even know how much relevance and legacy this movie has. It's always been one of my favorites but this minimentary takes my respect to a whole new level.🙆🏽♂️🙆🏽♂️
I hate to be that guy, but wouldn't it be more accurate to say Hollywood movies, or American cinema? The title seems hyperbolic. You even somewhat prove this point by brining up the French new wave which did what bonnie and clyde did for America, for cinema. The French new wave is also commonly cited as inspiration by those directors of the 70s, like the movie brats
It's more about Hollywood cinema than American cinema, considering that American cinema was far more wide and complex than just Hollywood movies. And even then, I think there were several noirs that went ahead of its time in the 50s and the 60s.
Let's just keep things in perspective. All styles will have taken some inspiration from previous styles. It is important to understand the evolution of style, and it is also important to understand where that evolution finally culminated into a new style of it's own. Would you say "Homo sapiens only took inspiration from Neanderthal!" French New Wave served it's purpose, as did Bonnie and Clyde. Diminishing Bonnie and Clyde is just snobbish imo
I can understand your point, but I think that nothing culminates in cinema for its own. It just evolves onto the next phase, and I think Bonnie and Clyde is just another stone. Also, while talking about French new wave cinema I'd say that is kind of ingenuous to think that it served its purpose, specially when you see what their filmmakers did in the course of their careers and how they haven't stayed the same (neither Phillipe Garrel, nor Claire Denis, Chantal Akerman, Eric Rohmer, Jean-Claude Brisseau, etc.). Cinema as their history is not such an straight arrow as to label some of their films with flimsy arguments such as "it served their purpose" or "this is a peak in cinema".
@@CarlosMartinez-tt4qp Your point is well taken. I did not mean to imply that French New Wave served its purpose and it is done and gone. It, like Noir continues to influence and inspire. My point is that Bonnie and Clyde was the film that changed both how we film, and how we watch movies. We step into that murky realm of art vs entertainment. They are not mutually exclusive. Compare Baroque to Modern Classical music. Only people with "educated ears" can listen to Modern. French New Wave is more accessible, but not by much.
good video, but "bonnie and clyde was one of the first movies to depict the great depression as kinda funny"?...30 years after charlie chaplain did so...DURING the great depression (modern times)
@@yourenotrelatable "one of the first "30 years after the first few is not exactly an achievement or a novelty, is it? english is my third language as it happens, but apparently maths is not your strong suit, astrology physicist
I feel like you need to know the context in which the movie was made (historical but also cinematographic) to fully appreciate Bonnie and Clyde. I'm sure if I hadn't seen this video I wouldn't think much of it, but now I'm really interested. Added to my list, thanks!
Superb video! So nice to be reminded how great and important Bonnie and Clyde is. It was the second movie I ever saw on a big screen in my life. It deserves the Criterion treatment. It deserves more attention and acclaim.
I would argue that while Bonnie and Clyde was the first film to employ these techniques, cinema's revolution is moreso owed to Artaud's Theatre of Cruelty and Brecht's Verfremdungseffekt since Bonnie and Clyde clearly drew inspiration from Brechtian and Artaudian theories of theatre.
If I'm not mistaken, the shooting of the banker was also the first time a certain kind of gunshot was shown on film. I believe it was the first time the shorter, the gun, and the victim were in frame at the same time, which really solidifies the cause and effect relationship for the viewer.
I liked the video and the arguments you presented, but I guess what really changed Hollywood in that particular "era" (60's onward) was the Nouvelle Vague (French New Wave) and, consequently, it's whole influence on new forms of filmmaking, story, experimentation, thematics, so forth. To say one American movie changed Hollywood is a very deterministic point of view, because Cinema has always been about influxes of ideas combining and forming newer and newer cycles of production. Like you said, Bonnie & Clyde took ideas from Truffaut, Godard, and these filmmakers experimented with subversing the star system and studio system tropes, building on top of critical ideas and explorations of Brecht, Bazin, and the crucial auteur theory established earlier on by directors such as Hitchcock and Welles, as well as Italian Neorealism's form. Likewise, you can't point to a particular film as the film to change everything, because films build on top each other - Bonnie & Cylde is no different. Whereas it maintains it's position as a very influential film (from landmark point of view) in the New Hollywood "era", we can't forget films that came before it, such as In The Heat of Night, and films that came alongside it, such as The Graduate. These shifts in Cinema and "eras" are always amazing and fascinating because it's an incredibly cyclic learning experience, in which filmmakers rely on other filmmakers to build upon their own work based on the source material they hold true to their heart and that affected their lives.
And me who thought this had to be a boring movie 🤦 It seems like the proto-Tarantino movie, and I'm going to watch it right now (hooray for the pandemic)!
I honestly am not a fan of the seamless tie ins from the video into an ad to conclude things. A few channels have started doing this. It both robs your viewers of a real conclusion and just feels a bit grossly sneaky. I would recommend a hard separation from the video into an ad. If you want to relate it to the topic at hand that's one thing but just kind of dwindling out of an inconclusive moment into an ad feels pretty wack
Thank you for putting this into words, it's a technique that's been bugging me for awhile. For all I know, it might actually be part of the ad contract. Karl Smallwood at Fact Fiend has been calling out that sort of thing in his occasional "How Not To Do Business" videos as well as his annual "channel update" videos when he explains why he has no sponsors - he's not against the idea, but he can't abide the terms they require. I enjoy hearing corporations being told to "fuck off" in a Yorkshire accent. :-)
Bonnie and Clyde's greatest influence was actually TV news reel footage of the Vietnam war at the time and it informed a lot of films at the time (wild bunch) and definitely gave permission for the violence of the shootout at the end.
Not a major point but I read that Faye Dunaway lost 20 pounds to play the role of Bonnie so that she would have the underfed look of someone in the Depression. Miss Dunaway lost weight of her own accord, no one asked or told her to do it.
@@myradioon It depends on your age. Bonny and Clyde was a highly popular film in its time. It resonated well with the youth. Cool sexy and rebellious with groundbreaking and exciting action. For its time anyway.
@@keyaamabrahams7984 Didn't realize it was that popular. I guess it hasn't aged as popularly as others like "Easy Rider" or "The Graduate". I never got into Warren Beatty is really the thing.
It should be called "The Movie that took inspiration entirely from nouvelle vague and brought it to hollywood" or"How Nouvelle vague changed hollywood", Nouvelle vague is the key guys. Nouvelle vague. Great and awesome video by the way :) Bravo.
The difference was that Hollywood didn't appreciate Nouvelle Vague. Hollywood only changed after Bonnie and Clyde because it was more accessible to Americans.
@@Rrroarr i'm not american and neither my original comment nor this one are trying to "defend" american cinema or hollywood. i'd like to point out that in the history of cinema (or any field really) the vanguard movements are inspired by the movements before them in both the things they differ and the ones they preserve. to know how the nouvelle vague was inspired by american cinema, i recommend checking this video: ruclips.net/video/Ez_ARK60epw/видео.html
@@favillesco I get it but again, they we're reacting against how Hollywood was making movies, not taking inspiration from... It's a subtle but very significant point. Of course if there wasn't that kind of Hollywood, you wouldn't have had the new wave, and all the consequences in visual media. I wouldn't say "futurismo" was inspired by classic poetry for example, but without it it couldn't have existed. And no Nouvelle vague director ever asked for "Hollywood consultancy" by the way, as Hollywood did later on in this very film, Bonnie and Clide. Thanks for the chat by the way, really enjoying it :)
I can see now how this movie was a huge inspiration for Baccano. The obvious reference is Isaac and Miria literally being Bonnie and Clyde but also the over the top gruesome violence and comedy.
I am 68, I concur 1000 per, regarding this idea. I thought I was the only one on Earth to realize & opine on this profound & extremely pertinent truth about Hollywood & American culture!
I've been to Cldye Barrows grave beside his brother's grave on Fort Worth Avenue in Dallas just down from the Dallas County Jail about a mile. Its quite interesting. Bonnie's is somewhere in Fort Worth.
First time I saw this movie it blew my mind and was my favorite film for a few years. I don’t hold it in as high esteem now as I used to but certainly one of the best American films of that decade.
It's funny how every "revolutionary" American movie is just one that repackages techniques from foreign films. B&C with French New Wave, Citizen Kane with German Expressionism, The Matrix with anime...
As much of a revolutionary idea this may be to anti-American film contrarians, art influences itself. German expressionism influenced film noir and Golden Age Hollywood, Golden Age Hollywood, film noir, and Italian neorealism all influence Nouvelle Vague, Nouvelle Vague influences New Hollywood, and so on and so forth.
The director would watch an edit from Dede Allen and demand she would cut it faster. I always found that very interesting. When it originally released it was shunned as bad editing.
Ok this might be a weird video idea but possibly you could do what makes a great character introduction. I was rewatching west wing and I think the first episode has one of the best character introductions ive ever seen for the president at the end. Something about introducing a character.
Fargo is a masterpiece. I often think of that film. It's brilliant in every way: the casting, the acting, the directing, and ESPECIALLY the editing. Not a second is wasted.
you guys could make a video about who's afraid of virgínia woolf. It was released one year before Bonnie andd Clyde and was notorious for the profanity at the time and the mix between dark humour and a emotionally intense story.
I love seeing shots from the French new wave. The framing is superb (though that could go for all of the elements of mise en scene in the films). There’s just a quality to them that makes them seem modern and interesting regardless of the present times and styles. Hollywood’s golden age was great and all but the manufactured qualities that the films had could never stand up to other movements like the French new wave and Italian Neorealism on the basis of pure cinematic creativity...
I was only a young lad when I saw that film and I dont remember much about it (other than the fact that I was traumatized by the end scene!!) but I definitely must check it out again
Great video. However I must ask, how does Butch Cassidy owe a lot to Bonnie and Clyde if it was released 3 months after? They were probably being written and in production at similar times
I am not sure on Dr. Strangelove. It also subverts our expectations and it is not always satirical and funny. It starts all gloomy and dark as if it was a serious movie about doomsday but then changes to comedy. It does do it differently though. Apart from that I agree with what you said.
It's crazy how Bonnie and Clyde sort of mixes the Golden Era shiny style and the 70's grit in a perfect way.
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As much as the "Golden Age of Hollywood" gets so much love, the era from 67-83 or the New Hollywood era created so many genre defining films, editing technics, and genre tropes that are still used today.
Bonnie & Cylde, 2001 A Space Odyssey, In the Heat of the Night, Planet of the Apes, the Graduate, Night of the Living Dead, Midnight Cowboy, The Godfather, The Exorcist, Rocky, Taxi Driver, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Jaws, Star Wars, and Blade Runner all happened in this era and are all staples, if not originaters of their own genres.
Oh and Jaws! Don't forget Jaws.
@@hawa0001 how he didn´t mention Jaws is beyond me
@@AdrianForAnApplePie I did mention Jaws, but I forgot Indiana Jones; which was like an Endgame level crossover with the Jaws/Star Wars Spielberg-Lucas collab movie at the time.
Why end specifically in 1983?
@@davodshah8869 it technically ended in 1982, with ET being a gigantic cinematic shift in Hollywood, but I personally include 1983 because of Return of the Jedi capping off the Star Wars trilogy.
To sum up why the era created a big cinematic shift in Hollywood, it was the era where creative control shifted from the big studios (who became more interested in making TV shows because it made more money at the time) from these individual directors creating a film with little input from the studios. You get directors like Kubrick, Scorsese, Coppola, Polanski, Spielberg, Leone, Lucas, etc. creating movies with their visions and studios didn't meddle with the product because it lead to greater acclaim and profit. And then movies like Jaws and Star Wars came and made unprecedented amount of financial success, which marked a big cinematic shift where box office success became vastly important to studios than critical success (which we're still seeing the after effects of this shift today) and how the audiences started to deem a movie a success or not.
ET marked the end of this era because it became the highest grossing film ever at the time and a similar themed film released in the same year bombed and had poor critical success due to ET's giant shadow it casted over the film industry. That film was The Thing! A classic now and would've been a classic if it was released just 5 years earlier, but because of this, studios saw the profits that could be gained if you make big budget films marketed towards a big audience (ET) versus having a director have complete artistic purity over a film (The Thing). This lead to the era of the "80s action flicks" (with it's trademark cheesy humor) and the "magical family pictures" aka Spielberg-esque movies (you'll see alot of STEVEN SPIELBERG PRESENTS in the promotions).
Wow, I've never actually seen Bonnie & Clyde, but I didn't expect it to look like this for some reason, I'll have to check it out!
Same I didn't know the themes would be that deep and the effects would be revolutionary
Bootstrap If you like Bonnie and Clyde you should definitely check out The Getaway (1972).
I’ve watched this move several times and it really has never resonated. I think the often neglected but just as impactful film that really kicked off the New Hollywood era was “Who’s Afraid of Virginia Wolf”.
@@djstarsign "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf" is a movie that still haunts me. The raw cat and mouse games of George and Martha were revolutionary in American Cinema. The claustrophobic late night party is something I have experienced and I can imagine being trapped in that house with a drunken George, Martha, Nick and Honey.
Same with me, never bothered, for some reason I have always had an idea it was a boring movie, perhaps I should reconsider
I love how almost everything in film history is so coherent. German Expressionism inspires Film Noir, Film Noir inspires the Nouvelle Vague, the Nouvelle Vague inspires New Hollywood and so on.
Even if Tarantino often exaggerates with his film references, what he does is nothing new.
I'd say everything in history is like that, not only in film history, but music history, art history, science history, social history, political history etc. It's just a long line of causes and consequences, one thing influencing another perpetually.
phục êwê You could say that but a lot of quality things made today like The Game of Thrones, the Young Pope or Breaking Bad are fresh and original and belong uniquely to now.
@@Flowmotion1000 If you think Game of Thrones is unique, you need to read the Niebelungenlied. If you think Breaking Bad is unique, you need to see The Wire. If you think The Godfather is revolutionary, you need to read Aeschylus. There is nothing new under the sun. Game of Thrones is indeed original, and it is indeed of it's time. But unique? new? no. There is nothing there which is not somewhere else in some form. George R. R. Martin does not have four names. He deliberately styles himself after Tolkien for a reason. He is not trying to reinvent the wheel. He is innovating on the foundations already laid by others. Please stop with this stupid myth that he is rejecting all fantasy which has gone before or tearing down the fantasy genre. Please stop crediting him with inventing something unique and new and different. He didn't. I love his work, but I'm getting real sick of his cult (and from all the evidence I've seen, I think he is too). So cut it out.
That's the nature of history , it wasn't coheasive ; it was madness + it was experiment and it was revolution , caught short , aborted , abided :absorbed..sad mad an drunk : uppers downs an cocane all around . And Batman on t.v...only the not dead get counted.
@@sophiejones7727 Exactly. I thought The Wire was something completely original until I saw Clockers.
Basically what Martin did was to translate the history of England into a Low Fantasy world.
So much talking of editing, and you don't actually mention the editor's name?Dede Allen.
Editors are thankless heroes, they never get the credit deserved; and, the editor is one of THE most important pieces to make a movie complete.
Sidney Lumet talks fondly of Dede Allen in his book Making Movies.
@@MidTierVillain So very true.
@daAnder71 true but they're also the ones that create meaning through context. Theres a reason that when directors get fed up with actors they just tell them to stop acting. The editors pick up that slack.
Mark: Dede Allen was amazing. Working with Lumet, Penn, Beatty (Reds), Philip Kaufman, etc... She even edited The Addams Family and The Wiz, not to mention Slaughterhouse-Five with George Roy Hill.
Honestly Bonnie and Clyde seems exactly like a French New Wave film to me. The only thing that's different to make it "suitable to an American audience" is that it's in English and set in America.
and the extreme violence (for those days) in the end.
I had the same feeling.
Can't really agree.. as much as I appreciate the new wave, watching any of Godard's films is a torture.. B&C was much more concise, fast paced and entertaining (and yes, it's a pastiche but a darn good one)
Agreed, but this is a hard concept to understand for Americans. Their exceptionalism, ignorance, and provincialism know no limits.
@@SkipperGeffen Not all new wave movies had the same "godard pace" tho.
I feel like I've been waiting for a new Now You See It video for AGES
That transition to the ad was the smoothest thing I've ever seen
I feel like the era of Hollywood films following this film is one of the greatest eras of film. The amount of great films made in the early 70s is insane, some directors who are now considered "masters of cinema" had their breakthrough in this period and produced some of their strongest work.
Well now I know what to watch tomorrow.
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I haven't seen Bonnie and Clyde in like 20 years, but it have been simmering in my mind for a while now. After this "Now you see it" episode I realize I gotta see it again soon!
Atleast 2020 gave us Now You See It back
hey my uncle was the production manager for bonnie & clyde! Russ Saunders
*The Hollywood movie that changed Hollywood movies
Thank you. While I don't want to diminish Hollywood's role, the title does seem strange when he immediately begins to talk about the French influence. That title is too grandiose when the movie is standing on others shoulders.
*The first Hollywood movie to show the influence of the French New Wave.
yeah i was thinking the exact same thing. This was a disappointing episode.
@Gabriel Couto Haha, good point. "This film changed everything! We copied some other films!"
@@rockets4kids Voting this for best and most accurate title
It's amazing how much consistent influence there's always been to things like this. Constantly innovating ans expanding ideas and stories over the last ones without disregarding them for what they managed to accomplish; it's really awe inspiring in a way.
Also remember the Hays Code (1934-1968) which set the "moral guidelines" for movies. Bonnie and Clyde came out in 1967, right around the death of the Hays Code. It's no wonder that Bonnie and Clyde- along with other movies of the late 1960s-were revolutionary.
Often times I get Movie recommendations from Now You See It videos
Wow. I didn't even know how much relevance and legacy this movie has. It's always been one of my favorites but this minimentary takes my respect to a whole new level.🙆🏽♂️🙆🏽♂️
How?
@@kostajovanovic3711 did you watch the video?
Movies that changed movies would be a cool series.
I did not know squibs were not introduced until this movie, that by itself is kind of mind blowing
I hate to be that guy, but wouldn't it be more accurate to say Hollywood movies, or American cinema? The title seems hyperbolic. You even somewhat prove this point by brining up the French new wave which did what bonnie and clyde did for America, for cinema. The French new wave is also commonly cited as inspiration by those directors of the 70s, like the movie brats
It's more about Hollywood cinema than American cinema, considering that American cinema was far more wide and complex than just Hollywood movies. And even then, I think there were several noirs that went ahead of its time in the 50s and the 60s.
Let's just keep things in perspective.
All styles will have taken some inspiration from previous styles.
It is important to understand the evolution of style, and it is also important to understand where that evolution finally culminated into a new style of it's own.
Would you say "Homo sapiens only took inspiration from Neanderthal!"
French New Wave served it's purpose, as did Bonnie and Clyde.
Diminishing Bonnie and Clyde is just snobbish imo
I can understand your point, but I think that nothing culminates in cinema for its own. It just evolves onto the next phase, and I think Bonnie and Clyde is just another stone. Also, while talking about French new wave cinema I'd say that is kind of ingenuous to think that it served its purpose, specially when you see what their filmmakers did in the course of their careers and how they haven't stayed the same (neither Phillipe Garrel, nor Claire Denis, Chantal Akerman, Eric Rohmer, Jean-Claude Brisseau, etc.). Cinema as their history is not such an straight arrow as to label some of their films with flimsy arguments such as "it served their purpose" or "this is a peak in cinema".
@@CarlosMartinez-tt4qp Your point is well taken. I did not mean to imply that French New Wave served its purpose and it is done and gone. It, like Noir continues to influence and inspire. My point is that Bonnie and Clyde was the film that changed both how we film, and how we watch movies.
We step into that murky realm of art vs entertainment. They are not mutually exclusive. Compare Baroque to Modern Classical music. Only people with "educated ears" can listen to Modern. French New Wave is more accessible, but not by much.
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The opening scene with Bonnie in her bedroom is one of the greatest in movie history.
good video, but "bonnie and clyde was one of the first movies to depict the great depression as kinda funny"?...30 years after charlie chaplain did so...DURING the great depression (modern times)
Kasimir Marks "one of the first" =/= "the first" or is English not your first language?
@@yourenotrelatable The narrator says B&C was "the first."
@@yourenotrelatable Later he said 'not only the first movie to depict the Great Depression as funny'.
@@yourenotrelatable "one of the first "30 years after the first few is not exactly an achievement or a novelty, is it? english is my third language as it happens, but apparently maths is not your strong suit, astrology physicist
truth.
if anyone is interested the first background music is called 5:32 pm by the deli
I feel like you need to know the context in which the movie was made (historical but also cinematographic) to fully appreciate Bonnie and Clyde. I'm sure if I hadn't seen this video I wouldn't think much of it, but now I'm really interested. Added to my list, thanks!
Superb video! So nice to be reminded how great and important Bonnie and Clyde is. It was the second movie I ever saw on a big screen in my life. It deserves the Criterion treatment. It deserves more attention and acclaim.
This is like that How I Met Your Mother Episode in which Canadians think they started grunge in the mid 90s
Finally another video talking about Bonnie and Clyde. I love the fast cutting of the movie, especially the last scene.
Great warmup for the next upcoming depression...
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for breaking down such a classic film. A film that matters.
I would argue that while Bonnie and Clyde was the first film to employ these techniques, cinema's revolution is moreso owed to Artaud's Theatre of Cruelty and Brecht's Verfremdungseffekt since Bonnie and Clyde clearly drew inspiration from Brechtian and Artaudian theories of theatre.
i've BEEN waiting for someone to do commentary on this film.
If I'm not mistaken, the shooting of the banker was also the first time a certain kind of gunshot was shown on film. I believe it was the first time the shorter, the gun, and the victim were in frame at the same time, which really solidifies the cause and effect relationship for the viewer.
I think A Fistful of Dollars was earlier, but I’m not sure that movie was first either.
I liked the video and the arguments you presented, but I guess what really changed Hollywood in that particular "era" (60's onward) was the Nouvelle Vague (French New Wave) and, consequently, it's whole influence on new forms of filmmaking, story, experimentation, thematics, so forth. To say one American movie changed Hollywood is a very deterministic point of view, because Cinema has always been about influxes of ideas combining and forming newer and newer cycles of production. Like you said, Bonnie & Clyde took ideas from Truffaut, Godard, and these filmmakers experimented with subversing the star system and studio system tropes, building on top of critical ideas and explorations of Brecht, Bazin, and the crucial auteur theory established earlier on by directors such as Hitchcock and Welles, as well as Italian Neorealism's form. Likewise, you can't point to a particular film as the film to change everything, because films build on top each other - Bonnie & Cylde is no different. Whereas it maintains it's position as a very influential film (from landmark point of view) in the New Hollywood "era", we can't forget films that came before it, such as In The Heat of Night, and films that came alongside it, such as The Graduate. These shifts in Cinema and "eras" are always amazing and fascinating because it's an incredibly cyclic learning experience, in which filmmakers rely on other filmmakers to build upon their own work based on the source material they hold true to their heart and that affected their lives.
And me who thought this had to be a boring movie 🤦 It seems like the proto-Tarantino movie, and I'm going to watch it right now (hooray for the pandemic)!
Herfinnur Árnafjall May you reply to this comment with your thoughts on the movie after you’re done watching it?
How did you like it? It's, personally,one of my favorites!😀🌹
tarantino sucks tho
I'll watch it too
Herfinnur Árnafjall why would it be boring? The subject of runaway criminals is interesting enough imo
I honestly am not a fan of the seamless tie ins from the video into an ad to conclude things. A few channels have started doing this. It both robs your viewers of a real conclusion and just feels a bit grossly sneaky.
I would recommend a hard separation from the video into an ad. If you want to relate it to the topic at hand that's one thing but just kind of dwindling out of an inconclusive moment into an ad feels pretty wack
Thank you for putting this into words, it's a technique that's been bugging me for awhile.
For all I know, it might actually be part of the ad contract. Karl Smallwood at Fact Fiend has been calling out that sort of thing in his occasional "How Not To Do Business" videos as well as his annual "channel update" videos when he explains why he has no sponsors - he's not against the idea, but he can't abide the terms they require. I enjoy hearing corporations being told to "fuck off" in a Yorkshire accent. :-)
Movies are moving, movement, and mood
Too many Ms in this sentence
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@@maxgamesst1 I present you to Alliteration. Have fun.
Mmm
This movie was hard, violent and gritty for its time, with great acting and directing.
Bruh, I only watched this masterpiece yesterday.
was it released earlier for Patreon backers then?
Dang. Brilliantly fascinating as always.
Nice transition with the curiositystream promo. Masterful
Bonnie and Clyde's greatest influence was actually TV news reel footage of the Vietnam war at the time and it informed a lot of films at the time (wild bunch) and definitely gave permission for the violence of the shootout at the end.
Not a major point but I read that Faye Dunaway lost 20 pounds to play the role of Bonnie so that she would have the underfed look of someone in the Depression. Miss Dunaway lost weight of her own accord, no one asked or told her to do it.
Thank you for offering yet another wonderful video in this trying time!
Your videos have helped me more than 3 years of film classes
Plies - Hypnotized in the background is so randomly but I love it
I actually haven’t seen this yet.
Nor have I, but now I wanna seek this out.
@@myradioon It depends on your age. Bonny and Clyde was a highly popular film in its time. It resonated well with the youth. Cool sexy and rebellious with groundbreaking and exciting action. For its time anyway.
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Didn't realize it was that popular. I guess it hasn't aged as popularly as others like "Easy Rider" or "The Graduate". I never got into Warren Beatty is really the thing.
It should be called "The Movie that took inspiration entirely from nouvelle vague and brought it to hollywood" or"How Nouvelle vague changed hollywood", Nouvelle vague is the key guys. Nouvelle vague.
Great and awesome video by the way :) Bravo.
well, nouvelle vague was inspired by american cinema, so as usual, history is better explained as complex back and forth between hystorical movements
The difference was that Hollywood didn't appreciate Nouvelle Vague. Hollywood only changed after Bonnie and Clyde because it was more accessible to Americans.
@@favillesco going "against" doesn't mean being "inspired" by, but I get your point :)
@@Rrroarr i'm not american and neither my original comment nor this one are trying to "defend" american cinema or hollywood. i'd like to point out that in the history of cinema (or any field really) the vanguard movements are inspired by the movements before them in both the things they differ and the ones they preserve.
to know how the nouvelle vague was inspired by american cinema, i recommend checking this video: ruclips.net/video/Ez_ARK60epw/видео.html
@@favillesco I get it but again, they we're reacting against how Hollywood was making movies, not taking inspiration from... It's a subtle but very significant point. Of course if there wasn't that kind of Hollywood, you wouldn't have had the new wave, and all the consequences in visual media.
I wouldn't say "futurismo" was inspired by classic poetry for example, but without it it couldn't have existed.
And no Nouvelle vague director ever asked for "Hollywood consultancy" by the way, as Hollywood did later on in this very film, Bonnie and Clide.
Thanks for the chat by the way, really enjoying it :)
videos like this re-ignite my passion for movies
I can see now how this movie was a huge inspiration for Baccano. The obvious reference is Isaac and Miria literally being Bonnie and Clyde but also the over the top gruesome violence and comedy.
Enjoyed the movie analysis. Penn had a magnificent attention to detail.
I am 68, I concur 1000 per, regarding this idea. I thought I was the only one on Earth to realize & opine on this profound & extremely pertinent truth about Hollywood & American culture!
I love essays like this. i saw this movie on actual broadcast TV when I was like, 7 years old. I remember it because it was so different.
The original Star Wars movie (1977) changed moviemaking forever. It remains one of the most significant films ever made.
The film was actually offered to both Godard and Truffaut. It was Truffaut who told Beatty about the project.
I've been to Cldye Barrows grave beside his brother's grave on Fort Worth Avenue in Dallas just down from the Dallas County Jail about a mile. Its quite interesting. Bonnie's is somewhere in Fort Worth.
Bonnie's grave is off Webb Chapel Rd near Northwest Highway in Dallas. Crown Point Cemetery.
First time I saw this movie it blew my mind and was my favorite film for a few years. I don’t hold it in as high esteem now as I used to but certainly one of the best American films of that decade.
Faye Dunaway was a dish. Rawr.
It's funny how every "revolutionary" American movie is just one that repackages techniques from foreign films. B&C with French New Wave, Citizen Kane with German Expressionism, The Matrix with anime...
As much of a revolutionary idea this may be to anti-American film contrarians, art influences itself. German expressionism influenced film noir and Golden Age Hollywood, Golden Age Hollywood, film noir, and Italian neorealism all influence Nouvelle Vague, Nouvelle Vague influences New Hollywood, and so on and so forth.
Could have been intersting to mention Nicholas Ray first movie influence on Bonnie and Clyde ;)
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Haha I thought it was going to be about hillary duff when I clicked into it, I was so interested
Sarah Cullen ahahhaah same!
Hahaha I love this
Same, but with Miley Cyrus haha
Dang!
Faye Dunaway was just a joy to look at!
What a gorgeous face!
Whoa! I love this movie! Watched it for the first time as a little kid by some midnight in the 80's... Got very impressed!!
I dont want to focus too much on this but Faye Dunaway was beauty
Great video as always truly a game changer
To me there is Pre-Breathless and Post-Breathless. A shame it took 7 years to get to America.
Faye Dunaway is so sublimely gorgeous in this flick.
Now we get another gimpse into Tarintino's inspiration for Pulp.
The director would watch an edit from Dede Allen and demand she would cut it faster. I always found that very interesting. When it originally released it was shunned as bad editing.
Ok this might be a weird video idea but possibly you could do what makes a great character introduction. I was rewatching west wing and I think the first episode has one of the best character introductions ive ever seen for the president at the end. Something about introducing a character.
Oh yayyy please let this be a sign of more to come
One of my fave movies and now I love it even more!
I love your takes! Thanks for reminding me that I still need to watch Fargo
Fargo is a masterpiece. I often think of that film. It's brilliant in every way: the casting, the acting, the directing, and ESPECIALLY the editing. Not a second is wasted.
Once again, an amazing video. 😊
*That changed American Movies
don’t you know america is the entire world /s
The New Hollywood Era has to be the greatest era in film history. We got some of the finest blockbusters, arthouse pictures, and more
The French film L'Argent is also axgreat one about the Depression period, seen from French angles
thank you for this video!
The guy standing outside Faye Dunaway's car looks like Tim Robbins
Also, holy shit was Faye Dunaway hot
"Tiny" 1930s cars? 07:00
Great episode!
That period from '67-'80 saw so many great independent American film. It's my favourite period of American Cinema
I saw B&C when it first came out - I was 8 years old!
9:33 GENIUS CUT!
you guys could make a video about who's afraid of virgínia woolf. It was released one year before Bonnie andd Clyde and was notorious for the profanity at the time and the mix between dark humour and a emotionally intense story.
Great video! This would really be improved though by a short pause after you've finished making a point; the pace is a bit relentless without these!
hmmm, Better Call Saul vibes
I love seeing shots from the French new wave. The framing is superb (though that could go for all of the elements of mise en scene in the films). There’s just a quality to them that makes them seem modern and interesting regardless of the present times and styles. Hollywood’s golden age was great and all but the manufactured qualities that the films had could never stand up to other movements like the French new wave and Italian Neorealism on the basis of pure cinematic creativity...
Great analysis. Thanks 4 sharing.
I was only a young lad when I saw that film and I dont remember much about it (other than the fact that I was traumatized by the end scene!!) but I definitely must check it out again
Awesome video!
this was really interesting, thank you!
Great video. However I must ask, how does Butch Cassidy owe a lot to Bonnie and Clyde if it was released 3 months after? They were probably being written and in production at similar times
The first came out in 1967, the other in 1969.
Faye Dunaway was a goddess in 1967!
I love how Clyde was whispering as he tried to rob a bank. that was so funny
One of the Greatest movies of all time
No single film was such a watershed, but Bonnie and Clyde was a good movie.
I am not sure on Dr. Strangelove. It also subverts our expectations and it is not always satirical and funny. It starts all gloomy and dark as if it was a serious movie about doomsday but then changes to comedy. It does do it differently though.
Apart from that I agree with what you said.
So what about that Great Depression Documentary? Where is it?? I'd be interested in seeing that.
Was that an Homage track at the end there?
That screaming female gang member went on to play Roseanne's mother.