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I saw an ABC and NBC news story that friends of the pilot of the plane said he was bad about doing checklists. He also was let go of one job because some customers said he scared them when he flew into a storm. I'm just learning to fly and the instructor says no matter what NEVER do shortcuts and always do your checks. Don't know if this had anything to do with the accident but it's interesting. www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/what-in-the-world-ntsb-details-what-pilots-said-before-deadly-addison-plane-crash/2440988/
Great info too, seeing that plane slip sideways through the air really showed me how bad things can get in flight when the air and wings aren't in agreement. It really looks like losing control of a car in 3d space. It's a shame when folks die though, but Juan and all his viewers have utmost respect for the fatalities.
@@deanhowell6730 The factual information he gives is always very helpful. What could the pilots have done differently? I guess the information around passengers, weight (including full fuel load) and did they have a 'what if' plan for a single engine failure on take off are valid questions. Very little time to react though in any scenario.
100% agree never have I thought about monetization during Juans informative videos reference aircraft & accidents... I feel his services are very valuable...🇺🇸
From someone who has lost a loved one in an aircraft crash and has been subjected to the horror of the character assassination, lies, misinformation, sensationalism and fabrications of so called journalists just to sell more copy and profit at the family's expense, I applaud Juan for his thoughtfulness
@@TgWags69 If you're looking for justice and fairness in this life you could always find it, in the Dictionary and now on Blancolirio! I'm sorry for your loss.
Proves that "accidents" don't just happen. They are composed of a sequence of negative actions that ultimately lead to the "accident" occurring. Thank you Juan.
As a retired safety professional / pilot with experience in air safety, I always despised the term accident partly because it is overused and denotes subconsciously that it could not be foreseen. Aristotle in 350BC said “Accidents are without cause “. This is a mishap as most aircraft disasters are. As a pilot you should never be under any pressure to push those throttles forward to TO power especially when your having issues with a engine probably near if not over gross. As most professional pilots have heard is that to stop a mishap from occurring you have to break the chain of events. When you are flying you have been taught that you have to be in front of the aircraft by x number of minutes, but have you ever been taught to look back in hindsight at least 5 minutes to see if any links in the chain have been forming? If you see a link then break the chainlink to go flying another day. Sadly this is a classic case study of a rollover at Vmca. Even when they lost the engine they could have stop the chain by dumping the nose and pull back the levers and land in a relatively unobstructed area in front of you upright.... the insurance company owns the airplane the moment that engine quits. Fly it as far into the crash as possible. Thanks for the update Juan well done as usual.
I flew F4s for many years and my GIB and I ALWAYS briefed loss of engine on takeoff, on approach, cold cat , etc. I was occasionally chided for "over briefing" but .. I'm still here ... an old pilot (not bold). The more you talk about it, the more ingrained a proper reaction is, and the better your chances of living through a situation like this. One thing working to our advantage was our ejection seats. Did the Capt. become aware of engine failure onset BEFORE he reached V1? I can't tell from the audio.
Much respect to you Juan from a 20 year Bellanca Super Viking driver. Thank you for your sensitive discretion and consideration of the deceased. You are a man among men!
As always, a very informative and objective video. My heart goes out to the victims' families. Back in December 1985 my fiance' was killed in an airplane crash enroute to a ski trip. Like has never been the same. RIP to the victims and God bless the victim's families.
you do a great job,started watching with the orville deal,am very impressed with your NUETRAL but informed stance,if 10% of the media called it like you do,the world be in a far better place,class act,and heaps of respect,rob from kentucky
Nicely presented. Scary footage. Seem to recall another video of a King Air having lost an engine and rolling over on short final. It would be easy to armchair QB this one, but I think it safe to say this could happen to any of us. Very good advice at the end as well. You are obviously a pro.
Nice report Juan. As Juan stated, VMCA is with bad engine FEATHERED. Even with AutoFeather, that takes a few seconds. This should have been a minor event resulting in a rejected takeoff or, at worse, a shallow climbout and return to the field. But if the initial reports are correct, with cockpit confusion, declining airspeed, and a winding down propeller producing a lot of drag, there were apparently too many negatives to result in a positive outcome. Still waiting for the findings on GrossWeight and CG.
Would there be an issue with the physical fitness of the pilot. He was 71. I wonder what the last physical indicated, if anything. I just ask bc of the phrase, " cockpit" confusion. No disrespect intended to the pilot, but these things can creep up, such as early Alzheimer's, dementia. I had to approve DOT physicals years ago and caught errors at times. Sometimes the dr was not totally honest and it came back on the trucking company I worked for. A sudden cardiac arrest behind the wheel and hits a bridge or a van full of kids. (2 actual incidents I had to deal with). I am just curious what pilots think about fitness to fly.
@@bombasticbuster9340 I'm 66 and I and all my friends my age laugh all the time about our gradual loss of not only short term memory but our ability to make snap decisions or keep up with quick conversations. I don't believe this is a subject covered in Medicals. Our egos are tested frequently as we seem to bumble along relying more and more on others. I wonder if our pilot in control may have just not been able to mentally meet the challenge?
@@graemewilliams1308 Your comment just made me realize something: Multi-engine training should include not only what you must do to maintain control but also a plan for when you for whatever reason fail to do that and are starting to lose control (because feathering doesn't work or you are having an off day or whatever). Maybe it does, I wouldn't know, I'm purely SE pilot.
@@TomasAWalker53 Anyone who has ever gone through the experience of a grandparent who shouldn't be driving understands the impact on ego, independence and fear of aging. One would think it would be easier to give up flying because it isn't critical in our day to day activities but the same things factor in. Assessing the brain's executive function at the complex level isn't something most physicians are trained to do. I wonder if those that do medicals for pilots have special training in this?
Thanks Juan. So sorry for these folks. Thank you for your explanation. I know someone that was flying a baron. About 30 seconds I to the flight he lost the left engine. He was able to return and land. He said he almost lost it twice. They purchased a skymaster next.
I was coming down Belt Line Road traveling East towards Addison Airport when this happened. I saw the smoke rise above the trees. It was a beautiful morning. I thought there had been an accident with the fireworks they were setting up there for Kaboom town. Within a few minutes I was standing not more than 75 feet to the right of the tree you see in the dash cam video. It is not often that the first responders make it to a crash scene on foot first with vehicles still in the garage. Condolences to the families. I can only hope that this tragedy and the clear footage of it will become a teaching tool for future pilots so that it can serve to prevent this from occurring again.
Ken Cramer I was headed to breakfast and saw the same thing. We drove to see what had happened, little did I know at the time that I knew one of the passengers on board. I will never forget seeing this or the people who so tragically died.
Once heard someone say "You shouldn't be surprised the engine failed on takeoff, you should be surprised the engine DIDN'T fail on takeoff" If you approach every takeoff with that in mind, you'll be a safer pilot.
That's nice in theory, but after thousands of non eventful take offs, it is hard to maintain a mindset on every take off that the engine is going to fail. It's human nature.....it's like driving home after work. Can you honestly say that you didn't daydream whilst driving home on some of the commutes? To concentrate during every takeoff for every eventuality on every flight during your flying career is near on impossible.
@@ricbarker4829 - I dont have thousands of flights, but flying gliders, we do follow this practice on every takeoff. A rope breaking is probably more likely than a well maintained aircraft engine failing. A better analogy to your car example would be leaving a parking lot. Every single time I'm leaving a crowded parking lot, I am all concentration, looking out for pedestrians or cars splitting thru spaces. Complacency does happen, but its not a given, its 100% up to you.
@bob wach ""good work" seems to be an alien concept to you my little Poof Boy." That's it? Is that the best you can come back with? "my little Pool Boy" I mean....it's great that you are not ashamed about your homosexual lifestyle, but you are wasting your time using those lines on me digger, I prefer the ladies.
I've never flown a plane but understand a little bit about them and I love the way you explain things. Not dumbing it down to much but explaining it so even I understand it. Awesome channel, thanks for doing it.
Well done as always. It is extremely fortunate that today's aircraft engines are as reliable as they are because, unfortunately, way too many multi-engine owner-pilots and probably quite a few other multi-engine Part 91 pilots just aren't ready for an engine failure on takeoff or during other critical phases of flight.
Yes. Im not a pilot (I like sailing!) but the engine failure at V1 scenario is just so critical that the crew's actions really should be drilled until they are automatic. Its a bit like a "Man Overboard" scenario. If someone goes over, the crew needs to know the drill in advance or else ...
That's the problem, in a nutshell. Part 121 (Airline) pilots are presented with the same scenario under many different conditions in their recurrent simulator training, semi-annually for captains, annually for copilots The immediate actions required to safely recover and maintain control of the aircraft in the event of an engine failure at VMC become instinctive, and have resulted in a successful outcome for many pilots, this one included.
All very true statements guys! I have a personal rule to never fly in an aircraft without access to the controls unless it is piloted by a Part 121 pilot or a well trained Part 135 (i.e. NetJets) pilot. It has been over two decades since I trained my last multiengine student, but I can still remember it like yesterday. If after going through all the applicable emergency procedures (4-6 secs.) for this situation and the aircraft is becoming uncontrollable just chop both throttles and land straight ahead steering clear of obstacles. Your chances of survival are extremely high!
Tom Heringer--exactly. And there are way too many light-twin pilots who think that second engine will save their lives, when in fact with an engine failure on takeoff, unless they are well prepared, their chances of surviving an engine failure after rotation are probably much better in a single (unless they do the usually fatal turn back to the runway).
tenpiloto: Any chance you fly a Citation Ten? The reason I ask is that I spent 20 years working as a Crew Lead at a Cessna Citation Service Center. The Model 750 was one a my favorites to work on.
Tragic loss of control & life ! May God rest the 10 Souls, and use this accident to prevent more such from occurring. Juan you're doing much good Sir bless you for these great contributions !
In the first picture, the building with the Cessnas parked by it. That’s where I work. This building is a haunting reminder that aviation is inherently dangerous and unforgiving. Great video.
Chris Brackin I saw a picture once of a Curtiss Jenny wrapped around a tree as the fog was lifting. The caption read: aviation is not inherently dangerous but is terribly unforgiving of any neglect incapacity or forgetfulness. I always liked that saying.
You will always get the very best explanations of all things related to aviation on this channel 👍🏻 The other topics that are covered here are fantastic too. This is one of my favorite channels and I have shared it widely among all of my friends, including commercial pilots. Outstanding research and presentation which is fit for all audiences.
Back in 2000, a Beech Super King Air crashed at Blackbushe Airport in the UK. That accident bears a lot of similarities, even to the point that both aircraft impacted a hanger.
Your analysis in my opinion, is spot on. I would first like to offer my condolences to the families of the victims. The video is hard to watch as you realize, hey, those are real people and they're about to die. They will never ever come back. Personally, I like the King Air in all its various types. However, I do know it can be a tricky aircraft to fly. Many pilots I have met that are type rated in a King Air almost unanimously agreed, a pilot flying this particular type of aircraft must get ahead of it to be successful at flying it. As a former Marine Aviator who flew F-4 Phantoms, I knew a thing or two about staying ahead of your aircraft. In most cases, pilots tend to do this naturally. Training, preparedness, logic as well as a strong sense of awareness are key to keeping ones ship aloft. Even after takeoff. But the King Air can be a hand full for a novice pilot. The margin of error once you get to V1 is pretty much 0. With little altitude, speed and the ground rushing up at you, things just happen too quickly. Of course, catastrophic failure does occur from time to time. Pilot error occurs. All necessitating, in my opinion, a much stricter standard of training on these particular type aircraft. Almost all twins, if you have an engine out on takeoff, the aircraft will likely yaw. That coupled with weight, speed, weather etc can create fantastic situations which human beings simply cannot deal with. Too be fair, even a computer most likely wouldn't have saved this aircraft or its passengers/ pilots. Our oil company has several King Air 350's. I have flown on them numerous times. Our pilots are constantly training to try and prepare for any possible events. Should they occur. But even they have stated, there are certain forces at work that simply cannot be controlled. Takeoff is obviously the worst time for any event to occur. One can cite literally thousands of incidents in which an aircraft mishap resulting in catastrophic failure and loss of life occurred on takeoff. Landing, not quite as bad, but still it does occur. My Rio and I were over the Pacific in a flight of three aircraft (F-4's). The weather was awesome. Visibility fair to good. We were about to start our landing procedures for a carrier landing. Then my friends F-4 had an engine failure. Not the sort of thing one wants when low on fuel and looking for the 3 wire, but he had to land his ship on one engine. Honestly, I thought he was going for a swim. Him and his Rio. We landed first. Trapped the 3 wire. Exited to park quickly. Fire equipment etc. It was very surreal. He trapped the 3 wire, full AB. I and my Rio jaw dropped. The point. He had altitude. He had speed to keep his ship aloft. Fuel was an issue, but clearly, it was our training that gave him the edge needed to come home safely. Its sickening to see aircraft crashes as they occur. For us pilots, we analyze every single detail of such videos. Looking for clues. Anything that might shed some light as to what happened. One thing is certain, that King Air was yawing real terrible until she went wing over and augered into that hangar. The pilots had so few seconds literally to try and right the aircraft. I'm sure they tried. Yet, as I stated above, sometimes, not all the time, but sometimes things happen. Certain forces at work. At play if you will. Such that it is literally impossible to correct. From my aviation experience, that is exactly what I observed in this video. An aircraft struggling to not only gain altitude, but to keep on a runway heading. Thank God no one was in that hangar. Excellent analysis by the videos creator and I quite agree with all of it. 🇺🇸
Thanks again for teaching and demonstrating for the general public. This knowledge presentation is far better than any explanation in the 24-7 news media rapid cycle.
Such an incredibly sad situation. I am grateful you explained it fantastically and respectfully. Learning lesson for the current and future generation of pilots.
Good explanation of the factors involved. Handling a REAL engine out scenario in an aircraft like the King Air at the most critical point in the takeoff is probably the most difficult situation to handle for any pilot. I flew multi-engine airplanes for years in the Air Force and never had a serious emergency and can only imagine what it would be like if something like this happened to me. Losing an engine in a multi-engine airplane is so difficult to handle, the Air Force had a computer in KC-135R aircraft to helpt handle the rudder control needed to handle the asymmetrical thrust of losing an outboard engine in such a scenario.
Love your videos. Just found you a week ago on RUclips. Very respectful to turn off monetization. That was very thoughtful of you! Much respect to you sir!
Thank you for putting the pictures of the victims up Juan. As a parent, my heart bleeds for those children and the adults and pilots alike. That is horrible. I dont even know how they can even recover the remains. They must have been so very scared. God be with them and their families.
Another nice explanation Juan, I spent half my life in the sim, and have worked allot with the larger transport aircraft, esp Airbus, the Vmca tests done in the sim, aircraft oem flight tests for qualification, in atleast 1 type do not take the aircraft to 5 deg bank or even use full rudder authority, we created an alternate test to check the Vmca value published against the stated performance, as the time history for the supplied tests were only straight lines, I should be able to look at the time history plots and work out Vmca without looking at the ref numbers. Very gd talk once again, and the importance of knowing the critical numbers. Very Sad here, but aviation is a crowd that learns from accidents. Take Care Juan... I would hope you are a TRI or TRE on your current type, as clearly you have a passion and knowledge.
Thank you again, Juan. My family and I know the PIC, Howard very well and just can't see how this got so out of control. Please keep updating everyone as you gather more info:/
I thank you for all you do to keep us informed. I am not a pilot. I love aviation and started at age 8 with my first Air Show during the summer of 76. Praying for your continued recovery. Stay safe.
You just pointed out the basics of piloting an aircraft - have a plan, know the plan, execute the plan. These items must be memorized because there is no time for a checklist - its got to happen automatically. The pilot in the right seat didn't know what to do or what to say and was just along for the ride. Maybe the outcome could have been different if they had a plan, knew the plan, and executed the plan. Twins are great until an emergency. Then they can be quite complicated. So sad, but an excellent review for us all!
I’m not a pilot, but the way you explain the situation and how it went down, makes these events as understandable as is possible with no flying experience. Your love of flying, and respect for all those involved, is evident throughout the explanation of the event,and how it transpired. Very informative.
Nikolai , this is the definition of humanitarian “concerned with or seeking to promote human welfare” and this is all i meant. Cant you be GOD fearing and an also be a humanitarian? Anwways i think this forum or time is not that place for this type of discussion. Thanks
Juan, don't know how small you report on but there was just a small plane crash in Livingston County Michigan. This crash (this video) is very sad for the loss of these people, the one in Michigan appears we lost 2 more, very sad.
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Thank you for not advertising on this sad video. And for the awesome, spot on explanation, as always... Regards from a follower from Lower Saxony, Germany.
Juan, you would make a great NTSB investigator. I was hands on at a crash site with them once (4 fatal in a C-182), recently lost two I knew in a fatal crash of an Acrosport bi-plane, plus one of my high school classmates and his wife were on TWA Flt 800. Have you ever analyzed the TWA crash with an open mind? Love to hear your thoughts on that one.
A very similar accident happened In Melbourne Australia in 2017. Single pilot of a B200 didn't Trim for takeoff when the rudder was in full left deflection, failed to gain altitude and crashed into a shopping complex
Sad day for all involved and their families! I wonder if gear could have been brought up quickly enough, if the plane might then have been able to maintain directional control and build enough speed then to climb out and then go around and land. Excellent review of the event Juan.
@@andyburk4825 I agree. This flight lasted a mere 30 seconds, and I think that includes the roll out and getting to V-1. Things started going bad very quickly after V-1. And you are correct; retracting the gear takes a couple of seconds to first think about doing and then initiate in the cockpit, and then it takes a hand-full of seconds( maybe 6 or 7 seconds...I'm not an expert ...I just don't know...just guessing ) for the gear to fully retract. It looks like even a partial gear retraction would have made no difference.
Hi Juan, excellent coverage -- and thoughtful coverage of this terrible accident. Certainly, with dual engines, the responsibilities greatly increase. - Dean from Minnesota
Thankyou, Juan. No matter how many times I hear of, or witness, an aircraft incident like this, my mind is always drawn to the poor people that are about to die, know they are about to die and can do absolutely nothing about it. It must be one of the most indescribably horrendous experiences that a human being can find themselves in.
Let me first say that the victims and their families are in my prayers. This accident was truly sad in many ways. A whole family lost, an experienced pilot unable to save the aircraft, and a junior pilot at the beginning of his career. When I first heard of this, I saw the hangar and thought it looked familiar. Turns out it was very close, if not next door, to the former location of Synaptic Aviation, a place I worked at in the mid-90s. Very sad indeed.
To echo numerous comments, you are really a class act, Juan. As a true aviator, you give only the facts without a lot of fluff along with the respect for those who lost their lives. Thanks you so much! Even though I never finished my flight training and got my private pilot ticket, it still pulls on my heart strings when something like this happens.
Great video sir. I'm not current but always appreciate thorough explanation/investigation of aircraft incidents. Never stop learning. RIP to all aboard. Tragic. Those video clips are hard to watch.
What were the options available to the pilots? 1. Would it have sufficed to retract the landing gear? or 2. Was there enough of space in front of the plane to shut off the good engine too and attempt a landing?
Great analysis. Just one thing, vmca is calculated under 23.149 with the critical engine prop windmilling (not feathered) I believe. I'll have to look it up but correct me if I'm wrong. Anyways, I really enjoyed watching your explanation. I taught multi engine flying for years as an mei and have done more vmc demos than I can remember. This accident really shows the importance that all pilots should expect EVERY takeoff to have an engine failure and be ready... Then, if no failure occurs, continue on. Basically be ready for it and for God sake, if you're going down, reduce power on the operating engine to regain directional control and go down right side up! It never works out when you go down inverted and nose down. The recovery from a vmc related loss of directional control should be applied immediately as needed and maintain that 5 degrees of bank into the operating engine when control is regained. The inability to maintain that 5 degrees of bank and desired heading all while full rudder is applied into the operating engine, should be considered the beginning of loss of directional control and power must be reduced immediately. It's so sad to see this video.
Juan, A minor correction. I believe Vmc is with the failed engine's prop windmilling, not feathered. This caught me once in a simulator when I had feathered the prop and then unfeathered it when below Vmc. Fastest snap roll I have ever seen!
As a 20 year pilot in a piper twin witch I learned in as an old man of 52 keep on the ground till you have lots of speed hold it down in ground effect keep it level build your speed gentle clime gear up engine starts to fail lose of directional control dead foot dead engine identity dead foot dead engine verify throttle back and forth verify close fuel to bad and feather nose over to maintain speed lift bad engine 3 to5 degrees continue to fly the gain altitude do not turn into the bad engine line up for landing maintain lots of altitude pull back power on good engine gear down nose over to maintain speed remember light twins will not fly on one engine with the gear and flaps in get lots of altitude maintain speed with inertia more people die at the threshold as soon as they put the gear down. Thanks for allowing me to share fcb
I love your videos. Straight to the point and easy to understand. I am not a pilot and have no desire to be one. It may sound crazy but I have always been terrified of flying. Watching these videos make me feel more comfortable. I no longer need to take valium before flying. It sounds backwards but I think that by learning more about the mechanics of flight I feel much less afraid since it's not completely foreign to me anymore. I have gained alot of knowledge about how planes operate over the last few years. I'm still not ready to try a small private plane and I don't expect I'll ever willingly get in a helicopter but I have flown on a commuter jet in a lightning storm and was more amazed by the lightning outside of my window to think about the fact that I was on a much smaller plane than I wanted to be on. So I just wanted to say thank you. Even though I'm not your target audience I have gained alot from watching all sorts of videos about flight and reading books. I spent the first 35 years of my life scared to even go to the airport because I just knew planes would fall out of the sky lol. In the last 7 years I have flown to Vegas, Houston twice, Long Beach, and Phoenix and given my son some wonderful memories.
In other comment sections dealing with this tragic accident, I noticed a sort of consensus among many pilots with light twin experience that the least worse response to an engine failure at that critical moment is to kill the power in the good engine and then to attempt to land straight ahead as opposed to attempting to do all of the things required by the manual in a matter of seconds in order to compensate for the torque and climb out safely on the remaining engine. What are your thoughts on this?
Pre-flight planning helps address this. Before you depart, you should know what your climb rate will be (positive or negative) in the event of a power loss. In my multi-engine training, if the performance planning showed less than a certain amount of single engine climb (I think our threshold was
I’ve watched your channel for a while now, and now all my friends are hip b/c of Kobe’s last flight. Thanks for not monetizing, means a lot to this viewer.
I'll be doing my comm-multi checkride in the DA-42 real soon. Despite the tragedy, this was extremely helpful and further buffering how important Vmca procedure are in a conventional twin. Thank you sir for this video
Class Act Juan. From perspective of what is shown or known in case I missed it, when did they realize the engine failure? 30 seconds isn't much wiggle room to think . Really unfortunate and condolences to the families.
I'm not a pilot never was never will be but it breaks my heart to see this it really does I view pilot as Supreme humans because they can fly and do something that most human beings can't
Flying isn't that difficult. Being a professional pilot however requires knowledge, experience, and competence. Unfortunately some lack one or more of those, or they just become complacent.
Thanks for the compliment, but unfortunately after 30 plus years of flying, I’ve met some pilots who are complete morons. I suppose that’s true in any profession.
It’s always distressing to hear of the loss of life in an accident. Learning how and why the accident happened is important to try and prevent similar events in the future . Juan excels at explaining the critical information and events in an easily grasped manner without the sensationalism we have come to expect from the shamefully deteriorating immoral press. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge and experience !
Thank You Juan for the explanation and respect. 🙏 I really learned a lot. Especially for a twin engine! As soon as there was confusion they should have rejected the take off. Both crew weren’t on the same page. No pre-brief plan. One question: Is a King-air type rating an endorsement then Sir? My condolences to the family and those that lost their lives. 🌹💕 I’m soo very sorry.🙏
Flew the same make/model for several years and loved the airplane. It is fast for a King Air and will practically land on an aircraft carrier. It can become an angry beast practicing V1 cuts in the simulator. It has huge props, and auto-feather has got to be armed and hopefully working on every takeoff. If I had the cash I would buy one. More fun to fly than jets.
Another super job explaining the situation in a very understandable manner. You use/give the big words, but make it understandable for those not familiar with all the technical terms. Thank you for this! And, about the monetization for the video, I didn’t think of it but I’m not surprised that you thought of it. Thanks again for all your factual and very informative videos.
5 August 2020 UPDATE- NTSB Public Docket Available here...stby for an update- dms.ntsb.gov/pubdms/search/hitlist.cfm?docketID=64068&CurrentPage=1&EndRow=15&StartRow=1&order=1&sort=0&TXTSEARCHT=
Lots of talk in there about the friction locks on the throttles. Also looks like left engine was spinning when it crashed. No signs of failure.
I saw an ABC and NBC news story that friends of the pilot of the plane said he was bad about doing checklists. He also was let go of one job because some customers said he scared them when he flew into a storm. I'm just learning to fly and the instructor says no matter what NEVER do shortcuts and always do your checks. Don't know if this had anything to do with the accident but it's interesting. www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/what-in-the-world-ntsb-details-what-pilots-said-before-deadly-addison-plane-crash/2440988/
As a private pilot and a retired air traffic controller, I am always amazed at Juan's explanation. He knows his audience.
And more Importantly Juan Knows what hes talking about!
Great info too, seeing that plane slip sideways through the air really showed me how bad things can get in flight when the air and wings aren't in agreement. It really looks like losing control of a car in 3d space. It's a shame when folks die though, but Juan and all his viewers have utmost respect for the fatalities.
Juan brings a sobering reminder in a heartfelt manner. We enjoy a dangerous passion
@@deanhowell6730 The factual information he gives is always very helpful. What could the pilots have done differently? I guess the information around passengers, weight (including full fuel load) and did they have a 'what if' plan for a single engine failure on take off are valid questions. Very little time to react though in any scenario.
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I never really thought about the monetization issue, you are a class act, sir, and a role model for many of us. Thank you.
100% agree never have I thought about monetization during Juans informative videos reference aircraft & accidents...
I feel his services are very valuable...🇺🇸
From someone who has lost a loved one in an aircraft crash and has been subjected to the horror of the character assassination, lies, misinformation, sensationalism and fabrications of so called journalists just to sell more copy and profit at the family's expense, I applaud Juan for his thoughtfulness
I 2nd that notion.....👍👏
Ditto 💯 % what you said!
@@TgWags69 If you're looking for justice and fairness in this life you could always find it, in the Dictionary and now on Blancolirio! I'm sorry for your loss.
Great job explaining what was on film & why things happened in the order they happened. Condolences to those lost and prayers for all who responded.
Proves that "accidents" don't just happen. They are composed of a sequence of negative actions that ultimately lead to the "accident" occurring. Thank you Juan.
There are very few accidents. Mostly it's unintended consequences of improper actions.
Rain Coast my dad was a private pilot from age 16 to age 78 as he says all the research on accidents he's done accidents 97% pilot error
As a retired safety professional / pilot with experience in air safety, I always despised the term accident partly because it is overused and denotes subconsciously that it could not be foreseen. Aristotle in 350BC said “Accidents are without cause “.
This is a mishap as most aircraft disasters are. As a pilot you should never be under any pressure to push those throttles forward to TO power especially when your having issues with a engine probably near if not over gross. As most professional pilots have heard is that to stop a mishap from occurring you have to break the chain of events.
When you are flying you have been taught that you have to be in front of the aircraft by x number of minutes, but have you ever been taught to look back in hindsight at least 5 minutes to see if any links in the chain have been forming? If you see a link then break the chainlink to go flying another day. Sadly this is a classic case study of a rollover at Vmca. Even when they lost the engine they could have stop the chain by dumping the nose and pull back the levers and land in a relatively unobstructed area in front of you upright.... the insurance company owns the airplane the moment that engine quits. Fly it as far into the crash as possible.
Thanks for the update Juan well done as usual.
You stole that from a crash investigation show.
Yeah no shit! Think those 737 max might have been a perfect flying machine?
I have watched with mixed emotions. An excellent report on a very sad event. As always, thank you Juan.
I flew F4s for many years and my GIB and I ALWAYS briefed loss of engine on takeoff, on approach, cold cat , etc. I was occasionally chided for "over briefing" but .. I'm still here ... an old pilot (not bold). The more you talk about it, the more ingrained a proper reaction is, and the better your chances of living through a situation like this. One thing working to our advantage was our ejection seats.
Did the Capt. become aware of engine failure onset BEFORE he reached V1? I can't tell from the audio.
MUCH RESPECT for your level of respect.
I tip my hat to your respectful acknowledgement of his respect
Juan I like how you can always explain a situation using layman's terms. Waiving the ads was great. Thanks for all your insight.
Mr. Brown you’re a class act sir. Thank you for your work on this channel.
Much respect to you Juan from a 20 year Bellanca Super Viking driver. Thank you for your sensitive discretion and consideration of the deceased. You are a man among men!
Love my Viking.... too.
As always, a very informative and objective video. My heart goes out to the victims' families. Back in December 1985 my fiance' was killed in an airplane crash enroute to a ski trip. Like has never been the same. RIP to the victims and God bless the victim's families.
SO SO SRY MAN...God bless you!
Wow thats awful,so sorry..
I’m sorry honey 😞😔
So sorry sir!
Thank you for your contributions to the aviation community. PPL SEL, and former Air Traffic Controller trainee here.
you do a great job,started watching with the orville deal,am very impressed with your NUETRAL but informed stance,if 10% of the media called it like you do,the world be in a far better place,class act,and heaps of respect,rob from kentucky
Thank You for that update. My condolences to the family's.
Nicely presented. Scary footage. Seem to recall another video of a King Air having lost an engine and rolling over on short final. It would be easy to armchair QB this one, but I think it safe to say this could happen to any of us. Very good advice at the end as well. You are obviously a pro.
I'm nowhere close to being a pilot and understood this explanation. Good job sir!
Nice report Juan.
As Juan stated, VMCA is with bad engine FEATHERED. Even with AutoFeather, that takes a few seconds. This should have been a minor event resulting in a rejected takeoff or, at worse, a shallow climbout and return to the field. But if the initial reports are correct, with cockpit confusion, declining airspeed, and a winding down propeller producing a lot of drag, there were apparently too many negatives to result in a positive outcome. Still waiting for the findings on GrossWeight and CG.
Would there be an issue with the physical fitness of the pilot. He was 71. I wonder what the last physical indicated, if anything. I just ask bc of the phrase, " cockpit" confusion. No disrespect intended to the pilot, but these things can creep up, such as early Alzheimer's, dementia. I had to approve DOT physicals years ago and caught errors at times. Sometimes the dr was not totally honest and it came back on the trucking company I worked for. A sudden cardiac arrest behind the wheel and hits a bridge or a van full of kids. (2 actual incidents I had to deal with). I am just curious what pilots think about fitness to fly.
If you can't keep it straight & maintain speed & height, close good throttle, land straight ahead.
@@bombasticbuster9340 I'm 66 and I and all my friends my age laugh all the time about our gradual loss of not only short term memory but our ability to make snap decisions or keep up with quick conversations. I don't believe this is a subject covered in Medicals. Our egos are tested frequently as we seem to bumble along relying more and more on others. I wonder if our pilot in control may have just not been able to mentally meet the challenge?
@@graemewilliams1308 Your comment just made me realize something: Multi-engine training should include not only what you must do to maintain control but also a plan for when you for whatever reason fail to do that and are starting to lose control (because feathering doesn't work or you are having an off day or whatever). Maybe it does, I wouldn't know, I'm purely SE pilot.
@@TomasAWalker53 Anyone who has ever gone through the experience of a grandparent who shouldn't be driving understands the impact on ego, independence and fear of aging. One would think it would be easier to give up flying because it isn't critical in our day to day activities but the same things factor in. Assessing the brain's executive function at the complex level isn't something most physicians are trained to do. I wonder if those that do medicals for pilots have special training in this?
Thanks Juan. So sorry for these folks. Thank you for your explanation. I know someone that was flying a baron. About 30 seconds I to the flight he lost the left engine. He was able to return and land. He said he almost lost it twice. They purchased a skymaster next.
Thank you Juan....for the respect shown to the bereaved....and for explaining the circumstances involved in this tragedy.....Love from Scotland.
Very professional and respectful analysis.
Another great video Juan .
Very respectful of you .
Keep up the good Reporting !
Your my go to guy for proper concise clear explanations on these accidents. Keep up the good work, and you are looking good after your treatment Juan.
Best aviation channel in the known universe. Thanks for what you do. It is appreciated.
I was coming down Belt Line Road traveling East towards Addison Airport when this happened. I saw the smoke rise above the trees. It was a beautiful morning. I thought there had been an accident with the fireworks they were setting up there for Kaboom town. Within a few minutes I was standing not more than 75 feet to the right of the tree you see in the dash cam video. It is not often that the first responders make it to a crash scene on foot first with vehicles still in the garage. Condolences to the families. I can only hope that this tragedy and the clear footage of it will become a teaching tool for future pilots so that it can serve to prevent this from occurring again.
Ken Cramer I was headed to breakfast and saw the same thing. We drove to see what had happened, little did I know at the time that I knew one of the passengers on board. I will never forget seeing this or the people who so tragically died.
Best regards Juan on National Aviation Day...Thanks for the update. Nice work as always.
Once heard someone say "You shouldn't be surprised the engine failed on takeoff, you should be surprised the engine DIDN'T fail on takeoff"
If you approach every takeoff with that in mind, you'll be a safer pilot.
That's nice in theory, but after thousands of non eventful take offs, it is hard to maintain a mindset on every take off that the engine is going to fail. It's human nature.....it's like driving home after work. Can you honestly say that you didn't daydream whilst driving home on some of the commutes? To concentrate during every takeoff for every eventuality on every flight during your flying career is near on impossible.
@@ricbarker4829 - I dont have thousands of flights, but flying gliders, we do follow this practice on every takeoff. A rope breaking is probably more likely than a well maintained aircraft engine failing. A better analogy to your car example would be leaving a parking lot. Every single time I'm leaving a crowded parking lot, I am all concentration, looking out for pedestrians or cars splitting thru spaces. Complacency does happen, but its not a given, its 100% up to you.
@bob wach it didn't take long for the "argumentum ad hominem" to raise it's ugly head. Good work bob.
@bob wach ""good work" seems to be an alien concept to you my little Poof Boy." That's it? Is that the best you can come back with? "my little Pool Boy" I mean....it's great that you are not ashamed about your homosexual lifestyle, but you are wasting your time using those lines on me digger, I prefer the ladies.
I've never flown a plane but understand a little bit about them and I love the way you explain things. Not dumbing it down to much but explaining it so even I understand it. Awesome channel, thanks for doing it.
Well done as always. It is extremely fortunate that today's aircraft engines are as reliable as they are because, unfortunately, way too many multi-engine owner-pilots and probably quite a few other multi-engine Part 91 pilots just aren't ready for an engine failure on takeoff or during other critical phases of flight.
Yes. Im not a pilot (I like sailing!) but the engine failure at V1 scenario is just so critical that the crew's actions really should be drilled until they are automatic. Its a bit like a "Man Overboard" scenario. If someone goes over, the crew needs to know the drill in advance or else ...
That's the problem, in a nutshell. Part 121 (Airline) pilots are presented with the same scenario under many different conditions in their recurrent simulator training, semi-annually for captains, annually for copilots The immediate actions required to safely recover and maintain control of the aircraft in the event of an engine failure at VMC become instinctive, and have resulted in a successful outcome for many pilots, this one included.
All very true statements guys! I have a personal rule to never fly in an aircraft without access to the controls unless it is piloted by a Part 121 pilot or a well trained Part 135 (i.e. NetJets) pilot. It has been over two decades since I trained my last multiengine student, but I can still remember it like yesterday. If after going through all the applicable emergency procedures (4-6 secs.) for this situation and the aircraft is becoming uncontrollable just chop both throttles and land straight ahead steering clear of obstacles. Your chances of survival are extremely high!
Tom Heringer--exactly. And there are way too many light-twin pilots who think that second engine will save their lives, when in fact with an engine failure on takeoff, unless they are well prepared, their chances of surviving an engine failure after rotation are probably much better in a single (unless they do the usually fatal turn back to the runway).
tenpiloto: Any chance you fly a Citation Ten? The reason I ask is that I spent 20 years working as a Crew Lead at a Cessna Citation Service Center. The Model 750 was one a my favorites to work on.
Tragic loss of control & life !
May God rest the 10 Souls, and use this accident to prevent more such from occurring.
Juan you're doing much good Sir bless you for these great contributions !
Juan thank-you so much for you're thorough explanation
of the probable reasons for the accident.
In the first picture, the building with the Cessnas parked by it. That’s where I work. This building is a haunting reminder that aviation is inherently dangerous and unforgiving. Great video.
Chris Brackin I saw a picture once of a Curtiss Jenny wrapped around a tree as the fog was lifting. The caption read: aviation is not inherently dangerous but is terribly unforgiving of any neglect incapacity or forgetfulness. I always liked that saying.
Oh my! Pilot error is very serious. It is very sad Blancoirio! Thank you for your truthful opinion. Much Love
Scotty - And even if it was, that is the start if the investigation, not the end.
You will always get the very best explanations of all things related to aviation on this channel 👍🏻
The other topics that are covered here are fantastic too. This is one of my favorite channels and I have shared it widely among all of my friends, including commercial pilots.
Outstanding research and presentation which is fit for all audiences.
Back in 2000, a Beech Super King Air crashed at Blackbushe Airport in the UK. That accident bears a lot of similarities, even to the point that both aircraft impacted a hanger.
Your analysis in my opinion, is spot on. I would first like to offer my condolences to the families of the victims. The video is hard to watch as you realize, hey, those are real people and they're about to die. They will never ever come back.
Personally, I like the King Air in all its various types. However, I do know it can be a tricky aircraft to fly. Many pilots I have met that are type rated in a King Air almost unanimously agreed, a pilot flying this particular type of aircraft must get ahead of it to be successful at flying it.
As a former Marine Aviator who flew F-4 Phantoms, I knew a thing or two about staying ahead of your aircraft. In most cases, pilots tend to do this naturally. Training, preparedness, logic as well as a strong sense of awareness are key to keeping ones ship aloft. Even after takeoff. But the King Air can be a hand full for a novice pilot. The margin of error once you get to V1 is pretty much 0. With little altitude, speed and the ground rushing up at you, things just happen too quickly. Of course, catastrophic failure does occur from time to time. Pilot error occurs. All necessitating, in my opinion, a much stricter standard of training on these particular type aircraft. Almost all twins, if you have an engine out on takeoff, the aircraft will likely yaw. That coupled with weight, speed, weather etc can create fantastic situations which human beings simply cannot deal with. Too be fair, even a computer most likely wouldn't have saved this aircraft or its passengers/ pilots.
Our oil company has several King Air 350's. I have flown on them numerous times. Our pilots are constantly training to try and prepare for any possible events. Should they occur. But even they have stated, there are certain forces at work that simply cannot be controlled. Takeoff is obviously the worst time for any event to occur. One can cite literally thousands of incidents in which an aircraft mishap resulting in catastrophic failure and loss of life occurred on takeoff. Landing, not quite as bad, but still it does occur.
My Rio and I were over the Pacific in a flight of three aircraft (F-4's). The weather was awesome. Visibility fair to good. We were about to start our landing procedures for a carrier landing. Then my friends F-4 had an engine failure. Not the sort of thing one wants when low on fuel and looking for the 3 wire, but he had to land his ship on one engine. Honestly, I thought he was going for a swim. Him and his Rio. We landed first. Trapped the 3 wire. Exited to park quickly. Fire equipment etc. It was very surreal. He trapped the 3 wire, full AB. I and my Rio jaw dropped.
The point. He had altitude. He had speed to keep his ship aloft. Fuel was an issue, but clearly, it was our training that gave him the edge needed to come home safely. Its sickening to see aircraft crashes as they occur. For us pilots, we analyze every single detail of such videos.
Looking for clues. Anything that might shed some light as to what happened.
One thing is certain, that King Air was yawing real terrible until she went wing over and augered into that hangar. The pilots had so few seconds literally to try and right the aircraft. I'm sure they tried. Yet, as I stated above, sometimes, not all the time, but sometimes things happen. Certain forces at work. At play if you will. Such that it is literally impossible to correct.
From my aviation experience, that is exactly what I observed in this video. An aircraft struggling to not only gain altitude, but to keep on a runway heading. Thank God no one was in that hangar.
Excellent analysis by the videos creator and I quite agree with all of it.
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Thanks JR
@@blancolirio Thank you for your service.🇺🇸
Thanks again for teaching and demonstrating for the general public. This knowledge presentation is far better than any explanation in the 24-7 news media rapid cycle.
I'm no pilot, always wanted to fly my own plane. But that explanation was done very well. My most sincere condolences 🙏 for the families.
Bravo, Juan Brown. A first-class choice to de-monetize this video. It's nice to have a 777/fighter pilot telling us how things are. Thank you.
Such an incredibly sad situation. I am grateful you explained it fantastically and respectfully. Learning lesson for the current and future generation of pilots.
Good explanation of the factors involved. Handling a REAL engine out scenario in an aircraft like the King Air at the most critical point in the takeoff is probably the most difficult situation to handle for any pilot. I flew multi-engine airplanes for years in the Air Force and never had a serious emergency and can only imagine what it would be like if something like this happened to me. Losing an engine in a multi-engine airplane is so difficult to handle, the Air Force had a computer in KC-135R aircraft to helpt handle the rudder control needed to handle the asymmetrical thrust of losing an outboard engine in such a scenario.
Love your videos. Just found you a week ago on RUclips. Very respectful to turn off monetization. That was very thoughtful of you! Much respect to you sir!
Thanks Perry, and welcome aboard.
Thank you for putting the pictures of the victims up Juan. As a parent, my heart bleeds for those children and the adults and pilots alike. That is horrible. I dont even know how they can even recover the remains. They must have been so very scared. God be with them and their families.
Thank you Juan for the update. Keep us posted.
Another nice explanation Juan, I spent half my life in the sim, and have worked allot with the larger transport aircraft, esp Airbus, the Vmca tests done in the sim, aircraft oem flight tests for qualification, in atleast 1 type do not take the aircraft to 5 deg bank or even use full rudder authority, we created an alternate test to check the Vmca value published against the stated performance, as the time history for the supplied tests were only straight lines, I should be able to look at the time history plots and work out Vmca without looking at the ref numbers. Very gd talk once again, and the importance of knowing the critical numbers. Very Sad here, but aviation is a crowd that learns from accidents. Take Care Juan... I would hope you are a TRI or TRE on your current type, as clearly you have a passion and knowledge.
Thank you again, Juan. My family and I know the PIC, Howard very well and just can't see how this got so out of control. Please keep updating everyone as you gather more info:/
I thank you for all you do to keep us informed. I am not a pilot. I love aviation and started at age 8 with my first Air Show during the summer of 76. Praying for your continued recovery. Stay safe.
Juan, after a year, I find your vids compelling, intelligent, detailed, and comprehensive. Nobody else does it better. Thanks!
A tragic loss of life. May their souls rest in peace. Thanks, Juan, for the clarity.
You just pointed out the basics of piloting an aircraft - have a plan, know the plan, execute the plan. These items must be memorized because there is no time for a checklist - its got to happen automatically. The pilot in the right seat didn't know what to do or what to say and was just along for the ride. Maybe the outcome could have been different if they had a plan, knew the plan, and executed the plan. Twins are great until an emergency. Then they can be quite complicated. So sad, but an excellent review for us all!
Condolences to the pilots and passengers families. Another stellar video by a man of honor.
You sir are a true credit to the aviation community,thank you for everything that you do to make flying safer.
Very well put. Thank you for your time. Prayers to all.
Thanks again Juan for helping us understand the complexities of aviation . . and the absolute importance of training and thinking ahead. Bob
The thing that strikes me most is how terrifying these poor peoples last 15-20 seconds must’ve been. Heartbreaking.
I’m not a pilot, but the way you explain the situation and how it went down, makes these events as understandable as is possible with no flying experience. Your love of flying, and respect for all those involved, is evident throughout the explanation of the event,and how it transpired. Very informative.
True gentleman and humanitarian. Thank you for an excellent video and your utmost respect for the victims
Does "humanitarian" means "godless" or "secular" ? What do you mean, Mr Smith ?
HiWetcam , but we should always think of how much we love God (The Holy Trinity) and our neighbour
Nikolai , this is the definition of humanitarian “concerned with or seeking to promote human welfare” and this is all i meant. Cant you be GOD fearing and an also be a humanitarian? Anwways i think this forum or time is not that place for this type of discussion. Thanks
Juan, don't know how small you report on but there was just a small plane crash in Livingston County Michigan. This crash (this video) is very sad for the loss of these people, the one in Michigan appears we lost 2 more, very sad.
Thank you for not advertising on this sad video. And for the awesome, spot on explanation, as always... Regards from a follower from Lower Saxony, Germany.
Great Job!! I love aviation as a non-flyer!! This is the best explanation of what happen I have ever seen.
Excellent work Juan. The crash is a tough watch.
You're a class act.
Rip.. Tough to see if you don't know anything, it has to fear out your heart when you know how it could have been prevented.
Juan, you would make a great NTSB investigator. I was hands on at a crash site with them once (4 fatal in a C-182), recently lost two I knew in a fatal crash of an Acrosport bi-plane, plus one of my high school classmates and his wife were on TWA Flt 800. Have you ever analyzed the TWA crash with an open mind? Love to hear your thoughts on that one.
This breaks my heart. Those poor people.
Unfortunate for sure. Preventable: for sure. That was a $4.5M airplane (insured value) they were quite wealthy.
A very similar accident happened In Melbourne Australia in 2017. Single pilot of a B200 didn't Trim for takeoff when the rudder was in full left deflection, failed to gain altitude and crashed into a shopping complex
I just saw that video, they gave a great presentation.
Very sad how many multi-engine crashes boil down to this. Great job on the video once again. Almost 100K subscribers
Thanks Rex!
Sad day for all involved and their families! I wonder if gear could have been brought up quickly enough, if the plane might then have been able to maintain directional control and build enough speed then to climb out and then go around and land.
Excellent review of the event Juan.
I was wondering that too. Would gear up have made the difference?
@@andyburk4825 I agree. This flight lasted a mere 30 seconds, and I think that includes the roll out and getting to V-1. Things started going bad very quickly after V-1. And you are correct; retracting the gear takes a couple of seconds to first think about doing and then initiate in the cockpit, and then it takes a hand-full of seconds( maybe 6 or 7 seconds...I'm not an expert ...I just don't know...just guessing ) for the gear to fully retract. It looks like even a partial gear retraction would have made no difference.
Another excellent report, Juan. Thanks for your time in putting these concise and thorough video presentations together.
From a Google Earth. The crash hanger was 4800 feet from the departure end of the runway.
Ty again JB. Knowing more now than when MSM was part of my life.
Hi Juan, excellent coverage -- and thoughtful coverage of this terrible accident. Certainly, with dual engines, the responsibilities greatly increase. - Dean from Minnesota
Thankyou, Juan. No matter how many times I hear of, or witness, an aircraft incident like this, my mind is always drawn to the poor people that are about to die, know they are about to die and can do absolutely nothing about it. It must be one of the most indescribably horrendous experiences that a human being can find themselves in.
Great info as always, Juan. Such a sad story. Prayers for the families left behind.
Thank you for another excellent video. You provide a tremendous service to the public.
Let me first say that the victims and their families are in my prayers.
This accident was truly sad in many ways. A whole family lost, an experienced pilot unable to save the aircraft, and a junior pilot at the beginning of his career. When I first heard of this, I saw the hangar and thought it looked familiar. Turns out it was very close, if not next door, to the former location of Synaptic Aviation, a place I worked at in the mid-90s. Very sad indeed.
I live in Addison about half a mile from this airport and remember seeing the fireball. Such a sad day.
Thank you for explaining what and why it happened in a way I can understand.
To echo numerous comments, you are really a class act, Juan. As a true aviator, you give only the facts without a lot of fluff along with the respect for those who lost their lives. Thanks you so much!
Even though I never finished my flight training and got my private pilot ticket, it still pulls on my heart strings when something like this happens.
Very nice explanation and analysis. This event was very sad. Fly safe everybody!
Great video sir. I'm not current but always appreciate thorough explanation/investigation of aircraft incidents. Never stop learning. RIP to all aboard. Tragic. Those video clips are hard to watch.
What were the options available to the pilots? 1. Would it have sufficed to retract the landing gear? or 2. Was there enough of space in front of the plane to shut off the good engine too and attempt a landing?
Thank you for explaining some things. That was very enlightening. May God bless their families.
Amazing how fast this happened. Discussing yaw and actually seeing an airplane in adverse yaw was quite eye opening.
Great analysis. Just one thing, vmca is calculated under 23.149 with the critical engine prop windmilling (not feathered) I believe. I'll have to look it up but correct me if I'm wrong. Anyways, I really enjoyed watching your explanation. I taught multi engine flying for years as an mei and have done more vmc demos than I can remember. This accident really shows the importance that all pilots should expect EVERY takeoff to have an engine failure and be ready... Then, if no failure occurs, continue on. Basically be ready for it and for God sake, if you're going down, reduce power on the operating engine to regain directional control and go down right side up! It never works out when you go down inverted and nose down. The recovery from a vmc related loss of directional control should be applied immediately as needed and maintain that 5 degrees of bank into the operating engine when control is regained. The inability to maintain that 5 degrees of bank and desired heading all while full rudder is applied into the operating engine, should be considered the beginning of loss of directional control and power must be reduced immediately. It's so sad to see this video.
Juan, A minor correction. I believe Vmc is with the failed engine's prop windmilling, not feathered. This caught me once in a simulator when I had feathered the prop and then unfeathered it when below Vmc. Fastest snap roll I have ever seen!
As a 20 year pilot in a piper twin witch I learned in as an old man of 52 keep on the ground till you have lots of speed hold it down in ground effect keep it level build your speed gentle clime gear up engine starts to fail lose of directional control dead foot dead engine identity dead foot dead engine verify throttle back and forth verify close fuel to bad and feather nose over to maintain speed lift bad engine 3 to5 degrees continue to fly the gain altitude do not turn into the bad engine line up for landing maintain lots of altitude pull back power on good engine gear down nose over to maintain speed remember light twins will not fly on one engine with the gear and flaps in get lots of altitude maintain speed with inertia more people die at the threshold as soon as they put the gear down. Thanks for allowing me to share fcb
am so very sorry. Thanks for your report.
Very cool that you covered this. You're a good man for the respect you give to those involved.
I love your videos. Straight to the point and easy to understand. I am not a pilot and have no desire to be one. It may sound crazy but I have always been terrified of flying. Watching these videos make me feel more comfortable. I no longer need to take valium before flying. It sounds backwards but I think that by learning more about the mechanics of flight I feel much less afraid since it's not completely foreign to me anymore. I have gained alot of knowledge about how planes operate over the last few years. I'm still not ready to try a small private plane and I don't expect I'll ever willingly get in a helicopter but I have flown on a commuter jet in a lightning storm and was more amazed by the lightning outside of my window to think about the fact that I was on a much smaller plane than I wanted to be on. So I just wanted to say thank you. Even though I'm not your target audience I have gained alot from watching all sorts of videos about flight and reading books. I spent the first 35 years of my life scared to even go to the airport because I just knew planes would fall out of the sky lol. In the last 7 years I have flown to Vegas, Houston twice, Long Beach, and Phoenix and given my son some wonderful memories.
Knowledge is key to overcome the fear of flying. Thanks madree.
In other comment sections dealing with this tragic accident, I noticed a sort of consensus among many pilots with light twin experience that the least worse response to an engine failure at that critical moment is to kill the power in the good engine and then to attempt to land straight ahead as opposed to attempting to do all of the things required by the manual in a matter of seconds in order to compensate for the torque and climb out safely on the remaining engine. What are your thoughts on this?
Pre-flight planning helps address this. Before you depart, you should know what your climb rate will be (positive or negative) in the event of a power loss. In my multi-engine training, if the performance planning showed less than a certain amount of single engine climb (I think our threshold was
I’ve watched your channel for a while now, and now all my friends are hip b/c of Kobe’s last flight. Thanks for not monetizing, means a lot to this viewer.
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I'll be doing my comm-multi checkride in the DA-42 real soon. Despite the tragedy, this was extremely helpful and further buffering how important Vmca procedure are in a conventional twin. Thank you sir for this video
Superb explanation I am not a flyer only a passenger but such clear explanation of how an aircraft works many thanks
Man, I love your explanation Juan. So clear and easy to comprehend. I learn a lot from you. So sad for those nice looking folks.
Class Act Juan. From perspective of what is shown or known in case I missed it, when did they realize the engine failure? 30 seconds isn't much wiggle room to think . Really unfortunate and condolences to the families.
Complete class act. First time I've ever seen anyone turn the monetize option off. SUBSCRIBED.
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I'm not a pilot never was never will be but it breaks my heart to see this it really does I view pilot as Supreme humans because they can fly and do something that most human beings can't
Flying isn't that difficult. Being a professional pilot however requires knowledge, experience, and competence. Unfortunately some lack one or more of those, or they just become complacent.
Thanks for the compliment, but unfortunately after 30 plus years of flying, I’ve met some pilots who are complete morons. I suppose that’s true in any profession.
It’s always distressing to hear of the loss of life in an accident. Learning how and why the accident happened is important to try and prevent similar events in the future . Juan excels at explaining the critical information and events in an easily grasped manner without the sensationalism we have come to expect from the shamefully deteriorating immoral press. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge and experience !
Thanks wdwerker!
Thank You Juan for the explanation and respect. 🙏 I really learned a lot. Especially for a twin engine! As soon as there was confusion they should have rejected the take off. Both crew weren’t on the same page. No pre-brief plan. One question: Is a King-air type rating an endorsement then Sir? My condolences to the family and those that lost their lives. 🌹💕 I’m soo very sorry.🙏
Flew the same make/model for several years and loved the airplane. It is fast for a King Air and will practically land on an aircraft carrier. It can become an angry beast practicing V1 cuts in the simulator.
It has huge props, and auto-feather has got to be armed and hopefully working on every takeoff.
If I had the cash I would buy one. More fun to fly than jets.
Unfortunate situation, typical precise Juane report. Keep up the good work
Another super job explaining the situation in a very understandable manner. You use/give the big words, but make it understandable for those not familiar with all the technical terms. Thank you for this! And, about the monetization for the video, I didn’t think of it but I’m not surprised that you thought of it. Thanks again for all your factual and very informative videos.